Latest / Becoming Financially Confident / BFC Weekly Recap: A $250,000 Catfish Scam, a Reverse Mortgage Mistake, and a Stolen Checkbook
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- 0:08Becoming financially confident.
- 0:15My grandfather on my way on my mother's side, he passed away at age 72.
- 0:20And my grandmother actually lived to be 90 something.
- 0:22So I'm looking at the paper one day and I see my grandfather's name.
- 0:25So I said to my mom, I said, hey, you gotta call grandma right away.
- 0:28And it says that his name was Frank.
- 0:30It says Frank has money, you know, and it didn't even tell me.
- 0:34The institution just said unclaimed money.
- 0:36Frank.
- 0:36My, my, my mother calls my grandmother.
- 0:38My grandmother calls into the state.
- 0:40There was $3,500 that my grandfather had in an old credit union account that when he passed away, so this money had been turned over by the bank to the state.
- 0:52The state did their due diligence and ran this thing.
- 0:55My grandmother was able to submit a copy of her marriage certificate and his death certificate proving that that was her husband.
- 1:02And she got a bonus of $3,500.
- 1:05She wasn't expecting.
- 1:06But this is a big deal.
- 1:07And almost every state has these things.
- 1:10There's one out there called missingmoney.com.
- 1:12Just be careful.
- 1:13There are some fraudsters out here.
- 1:15Well, I think number one is go to the state website.
- 1:18Every state has a dot us or whatever that is for that state.
- 1:21Look for unclaimed property.
- 1:23If they want you to pay a fee, that's a red flag.
- 1:26The state is not going to charge you a fee.
- 1:28My wife and I bought a sleep number bed and those are not cheap.
- 1:31And when we were in the store, I don't usually use these.
- 1:34The lady, the sales lady says, hey, you know, we offer same as cash for 36 months.
- 1:38I'm like, 36 months?
- 1:40That sounds kind of good.
- 1:41But as soon as I got home, I put on my calendar, I took the total balance divided by 36 and I come with a number.
- 1:48I said, nope, here's what I'm going to do.
- 1:49I'm going to take that total amount and divide by 30, and I'm going to pay extra every month so that by the time 30 months come around, it's paid off just in case something happens.
- 2:00But every month I'm looking at that thing.
- 2:02Have they posted my payment?
- 2:03Because I don't want to get hit with that 10.
- 2:05Because here's the thing, a lot of people don't think about this.
- 2:07Let's use that $10,000 example.
- 2:09The interest rate on this thing is 35%.
- 2:13So 35% on $10,000 is $3,500 a year.
- 2:17Multiply that times three.
- 2:19That $10,000 bill just cost me $20,000.
- 2:24Yeah.
- 2:25If you don't pay it to the zero balance number.
- 2:28And that's what they're banking on.
- 2:30They want you to fail.
- 2:32Yeah, I know that sounds sinister.
- 2:33I know that sounds icky, but that's how they make money.
- 2:36Now, you can use these to your advantage, but you've got to have the discipline ahead of time.
- 2:41And unfortunately, I agree with you.
- 2:42I think these are predatory.
- 2:44But here's the part a lot of.
- 2:44People don't know about.
- 2:45You've ruined your credit.
- 2:46And wait to hear this one.
- 2:49They will then send you a 1099 at the end of the year for forgiveness of debt that you have to pay tax on.
- 2:55So let's use that example.
- 2:56So let's say you have a $5,000 credit card balance and you say, I can't afford to pay.
- 3:00And they say, okay, we understand.
- 3:02They don't pay us.
- 3:04So you don't pay them for six months.
- 3:05Your credit score goes ba ding, ba ding, ba ding.
- 3:08But it's get bad.
- 3:09But then at some point, you get a loader, a letter in the mail, and they say, hey, what?
- 3:12We're getting ready to charge this off.
- 3:14Then you pick up the phone and you call them and you say to them, hey, will you accept the settlement?
- 3:19And they'll say, yep, if you can send us $1,000, get paid, charged up, fine, do it.
- 3:23Here's what happens next, though.
- 3:25They then send a tax form at the end of the year that says, we just wrote off $4,000.
- 3:31You understand my example?
- 3:32Five minus the one is four.
- 3:34That becomes income to you.
- 3:36The IRS sees that as income.
- 3:38Now, here's the thing.
- 3:39Understand?
- 3:41But you're still better off because you're still not paying the 4,000.
- 3:44You're paying a percentage of the 4,000.
- 3:46If you're in a 22% tax bracket, it's going to cost you 800 bucks.
- 3:49But you still save 4,000.
- 3:51So you're still ahead $3,200.
- 3:53Right, right, right.
- 3:54Then you might have to talk about bankruptcy.
- 3:56That's one more thing we don't talk a lot about.
- 3:59Bankruptcy is there to help people who can't get out of the debt they're in things like 401ks, IRAs, some brokerage accounts have what's called a named beneficiary.
- 4:10If there's no named beneficiary, this causes a huge potential tax problem.
- 4:18Here's your thing that I'm going to encourage you to do.
- 4:20Make a list of every account that would pay if something happened to you.
- 4:26Log into each one and find the word beneficiaries.
- 4:30So let's say you have a 401k at work.
- 4:32God forbid something happens to you.
- 4:34Your employer needs to have a beneficiary listed to where that money goes.
- 4:39There's still tax consequences.
- 4:40But here's what happens if there isn't.
- 4:42If there isn't, it goes through the probate process, and it goes into an estate.
- 4:48Why that's a problem is because the estate tax rates start at 35%.
- 4:54So instead of paying as low as 12% personal income tax on a retirement distribution, right from the jump, it starts at 35.
- 5:04I had a dear older client a few years ago that ran into this exact situation.
- 5:09Her husband passed away, and he had missed one of the IRA accounts listing a beneficiary.
- 5:15He had listed them on all the other ones, but on one particular one, he didn't.
- 5:19And this happened to be one that had about a half a million dollars of money in it.
- 5:23So what she was faced with of these distributions had to go into an estate, and then there was a 35% tax before she could get the money out of that.
- 5:33Now, we were able to develop a program to cut back on a lot of that, but you can fix that now.
- 5:40So go log in.
- 5:41Make sure all of your accounts have beneficiaries.
- 5:44If they're blank, fix that.
- 5:47Add a backup name underneath of that.
- 5:49It's free.
- 5:50It'll take you less than 15 minutes, and it'll give you peace of mind.
- 5:54And that's the thing we need to understand is we are all going to have seasons of our life where things don't go in the way we expected them.
- 6:04It's so weird, because I know I've talked on this show that I'm making a pivot and becoming an entrepreneur, but every time I still hear that, I'm gonna be on it.
- 6:14Oh, oh.
- 6:14There's, like, a little tear in my voice right now because I'm making this pivot.
- 6:20There's still a very small voice inside of me that's like, oh, I think you failed.
- 6:25I think you failed in the corporate world.
- 6:26Right.
- 6:26Which isn't true.
- 6:28Which isn't true.
- 6:29Right.
- 6:29There's.
- 6:30I think Ralph and I, we've talked behind the scene, behind the stage, how entrepreneurship feels more comfortable to me, and it feels more like part of my identity.
- 6:44I want to speak to that, and I want to speak to that from a level you weren't expecting.
- 6:48As you know, I'm a Christian guy, and I.
- 6:49And I'll Put my faith on the shelf.
- 6:51Yeah, but honestly, Juliet, I think things happen in our life that open and close doors for a purpose.
- 6:58Yeah, but maybe there's a plan that you don't even see right now.
- 7:03Yeah.
- 7:03You know, and that's the thing.
- 7:04Like, it's so easy to get stuck on identifying ourselves with our career, identifying ourselves with our job.
- 7:11I love the fact of the journey you're on, and I'm sure it's not comfortable.
- 7:15Yeah.
- 7:16But don't ever consider yourself a failure.
- 7:19So if you feel right now that you're not where you should be, God has you exactly where he wants you to be.
- 7:26All of these things have put you in a place of where you are now.
- 7:31Remember, I said 18 months at $200 a month.
- 7:3418 months, $200 a month.
- 7:36Yeah.
- 7:36So let's just say you want to pay it off in 18 months.
- 7:37$200 a month.
- 7:38You know how much that is a day?
- 7:39It's $6.60 a day.
- 7:42Oh, that feels like a more doable number.
- 7:46You need to do the same thing in your head.
- 7:48What does this equal a day?
- 7:50Because think about $6.60 a day.
- 7:52Does that mean you don't go to Starbucks?
- 7:54Does that mean you brown bag your lunch instead of eating out?
- 7:59And I think the mindset here, right.
- 8:02It's like when the dream is too big.
- 8:03When we started talking about the dream, and I was sharing my dream, and you're sharing your dream.
- 8:07Right.
- 8:07Those are really, really big dreams.
- 8:09And so sometimes when you don't break it down into small milestones or smaller goals, it just feels like it's going to not never happen.
- 8:18But then when once you got down to, oh, that's $6.50 a day, I'm like, oh, that makes sense, because I can.
- 8:26I can already feel.
- 8:27Do I actually spend 6:50 a day?
- 8:30If I do, then I can make adjustments.
- 8:31If I don't spend that money because I'm, you know, working from home or something like that, I'm just like, oh, I.
- 8:37I do have that Runway.
- 8:38I can do that.
- 8:39You know, and to think about it, we envision this dream.
- 8:43Well, envision $6.60 every day.
- 8:46Where do you find it?
- 8:48I would venture to guess that most people can find $6.60 a day, but it helps you make better decisions because you've narrowed it down.
- 8:57I remember my first job.
- 8:58I worked at Roy Rogers.
- 9:00My job was I came in, and I stood at the front counter, and I took orders.
- 9:05That was my job.
- 9:06Somebody walked up, I typed it into the Computer.
- 9:09And I'll tell you a funny story while we're here.
- 9:11So the guy that hires me says, always be doing something.
- 9:14You always be moving and doing.
- 9:16So it's funny, three of my friends from high school all started working here.
- 9:19We had the shiniest counter in Roy Rogers because all three of us, when there was anybody there, we just sit there and rub like this, keeping this.
- 9:27But he said, always be doing something.
- 9:28That job didn't last long, but we understood the job.
- 9:31Your money needs to work the same way.
- 9:34Yeah.
- 9:34I will say something is like when I first heard about the dollar job framework from Ralph, I thought it would be, it would make people feel empowered because it's, it's basically saying any money that comes to you, you
- 9:46have to give it a job.
- 9:47So in some way it does, you have control over your money.
- 9:51And it, I think there are some people who easily say, well, you know, FOMO or I wanted, I, I just had to, I felt really bad or you know, something like that.
- 10:02But when you say if, when you assign every single dollar that comes into your pocketbook a job, that means you.
- 10:10Are in control, you're being intentional.
- 10:13And here's the best part of this framework.
- 10:15If you want to go do other stuff, you want to go have fun with your money, I am totally cool with that.
- 10:19It's your money.
- 10:20You get to pick the job.
- 10:22Every single dollar that comes in gets a job.
- 10:24There's no leftovers.
- 10:26There's nobody that doesn't.
- 10:28Every dollar gets a job.
- 10:29And if it doesn' job, guess what happens?
- 10:31So it gets lost.
- 10:33Yeah.
- 10:33So that's why we had to be so intentional about this.
- 10:35So let's say you get $50 a night on the top Rover.
- 10:39The platform takes 20%.
- 10:41So now you're at $40.
- 10:42And then on top of that you have to do self employment tax and then your federal and state tax.
- 10:48Still with from that 40, right?
- 10:50Yeah, correct.
- 10:50And I didn't even factor in a state income tax.
- 10:52I'm just saying the per, the federal tax and the self employment tax and that, that's pushed down to $30 because a lot of people do the math and they say, oh, this is great for 10 nights I can
- 11:02watch this dog.
- 11:03I'm going to make 500 bucks.
- 11:06But that's not true.
- 11:07You're going to make, you're going to keep $300.
- 11:09But here's the part you also have to think about.
- 11:11What are the supplies you're going to need, what are the utility costs, what is the mileage going back and forth.
- 11:18Right.
- 11:19So the real answer, in my perception, is a little less than $30 for each night.
- 11:26I'll tell you a funny story, Julie.
- 11:28There was one point when my credit was really bad because I made really bad decisions.
- 11:32And I used to chuckle.
- 11:33I was like, I would love somebody to steal my identity because they would try to apply for something.
- 11:37They'd be like, what?
- 11:39I can't believe your credit score is that low.
- 11:40It's kind of like my little digging.
- 11:42I'm like, you want to come get me?
- 11:43Good luck with that.
- 11:44Because my credit score is in the toilet, so you're not getting it anywhere anyway.
- 11:49That's just a little funny.
- 11:50Yeah.
- 11:51These are the places where the credit bureau is telling you how they came to your credit score.
- 11:55They're telling you about how they're handling information on your credit report.
- 11:59They give you what's called a summary of the Fair Credit Reporting Act.
- 12:03That's the federal law that governs all of this.
- 12:05So understand all the things we talked about is governed by federal law.
- 12:10So you can go out there and Google, search the Fair Credit Reporting act and understand what your rights are.
- 12:15And you should do that.
- 12:17You should know what your rights are.
- 12:18Because so many decisions are made based on your credit.
- 12:22And the obvious ones are you go get a loan, you go get a credit card.
- 12:26But what a lot of people don't know is they use this for employment screening.
- 12:30They use this for insurance pricing, your credit, and specifically your credit score, but your credit is what's building that credit score.
- 12:39My oldest son just moved to New York, and he bought his washer and dryer for his apartment while he was in Texas.
- 12:46Okay?
- 12:47So he went to the same Home Depot in New York because he needed a hose for it.
- 12:52Guess what, Julia?
- 12:53That same washer and dryer in New York was $300 more.
- 12:58Whoa.
- 12:59In.
- 12:59In New York versus Texas.
- 13:02Now, some of that.
- 13:03Again, that's not exactly what we're talking about here, but.
- 13:06But if you do this online, you can see that there are some differences.
- 13:11So if you want to comment about this, you can go out to regulations.gov this is actually FT FTC 2026, 1057.
- 13:19So if you feel strongly about it, then you should go out there and do that.
- 13:23Because the whole reason that the FTC exists is to protect the consumer.
- 13:28And if you don't say anything, this is just gonna continue.
- 13:32So elderly client comes to me one tax season and says, guess what, Ralph?
- 13:37I decided that I'm going to do a reverse mortgage on my house.
- 13:42A reverse Mortgage is like.
- 13:43So what that means is instead of you paying a mortgage, you own your house.
- 13:47Outri.
- 13:49And then you say, hey, give me money.
- 13:51And then when I die, you can take the house.
- 13:53It's basically what a reverse mortgage is.
- 13:56I didn't know that existed.
- 13:57Yeah, it's a whole thing.
- 13:58You see a lot less of those now.
- 13:59But this particular older fellow, he did a reverse mortgage.
- 14:02And I said, okay, so what did you do with the money?
- 14:05He says, ralph, I'm scared of the banks.
- 14:08And I said, okay, okay, it's in my mattress.
- 14:12Put the money in the ground.
- 14:13It's in my Mattress.
- 14:15He took $150,000 in a reverse mortgage, put it under his mattress.
- 14:26And I just looked at him.
- 14:28I just looked at him, and I'm like, julie, I thought to myself, like, dude, seriously.
- 14:34Now, that particular scenario was interesting because this reverse mortgage force.
- 14:37Oh, this is going to be safe, you know, you don't have to worry about it.
- 14:40And it's like, dude, you just made your life great, super complicated.
- 14:44Because now you owe money on this reverse mortgage.
- 14:46And the way it works is they advance you the money, but you still pay interest on that.
- 14:50I used to work at the credit union.
- 14:52So this one day, it's a Friday, busy day at the credit union.
- 14:55And I'm sitting at my desk, and all of a sudden I hear this fracas going on on the teller line.
- 15:00And this one of our tellers is out there screaming.
- 15:02She's carrying on.
- 15:03So I go running.
- 15:03I don't know if we were getting robbed or what, but she was working in the drive up, and I walk back to her, and she has a check in her hand.
- 15:09She's going, look, Ralph, look, look, look, look.
- 15:12Look at this check.
- 15:13I'm.
- 15:15And she goes, the check, it's mine, it's mine.
- 15:17And I said, what do you mean, it's yours?
- 15:19So come to find out, this particular person had stolen a box of checks from this teller's mailbox.
- 15:29Oh, my God.
- 15:29And talk about how unlucky this thief was.
- 15:33Then went to the credit union to cash a check.
- 15:36And the person working at the teller line is the person's check that she stole.
- 15:41That's crazy.
- 15:42So I said to the teller, I said, have that lady come around because we don't have enough money to give out in the.
- 15:48In the drive.
- 15:49You need to come around.
- 15:50So this lady, I would have been gone.
- 15:51I'd have been out of there.
- 15:53The lady comes, stands in the lobby.
- 15:55Now the lobby is busy.
- 15:56So I call a friend of mine.
- 15:57Who's a local policeman.
- 15:58And he comes down to the credit union.
- 16:00She's done.
- 16:00And he walks in the door.
- 16:01He already knew her.
- 16:02Her name was Peaches.
- 16:03And he says, well, I guess we got you again, Peaches.
- 16:07Moral of the story, know what's coming into your mailbox.
- 16:11Because this was the craziest thing.
- 16:13Like think about the likelihood of you steal somebody's check and then you go to the very place where that person is working.
- 16:21And not only do you go to that place, the person who's working is the person that's waiting on you.
- 16:25So there is someone that I know who went through a real.
- 16:31And she just passed away.
- 16:32So I can talk about this story and I won't be offending anybody.
- 16:35She was a client of mine for probably 15 years and she's a single lady.
- 16:40Didn't have anybody in her life besides a couple of family members.
- 16:43And she got cancer.
- 16:45And when she got cancer, she went through a really tough time of dealing with cancer.
- 16:50Well, she ended up befriending somebody online that she thought was a professional, like multi platinum winning singer.
- 16:58And this person made a relationship with this person.
- 17:01And.
- 17:02And $250,000 later, you heard me right?
- 17:07Yeah.
- 17:07This client realized that she had been scammed.
- 17:10But here's how she realized she had been scammed.
- 17:12And they actually were getting fraudulent mortgage back loans.
- 17:17And they were.
- 17:18And they were saying to this particular client, hey, can you sign for these documents?
- 17:22She did.
- 17:23She ended up giving criminal charges from the state.
- 17:27And that's how she became aware of this.
- 17:29The.
- 17:29The catfish.
- 17:30It's like the definition of this.
- 17:32And you know, and the sad part of it is it takes people when they're in an emotionally drained position.
- 17:38Like this particular lady.
- 17:40She was literally dying of cancer.
- 17:43And this no good rat, I'm going to say, that took advantage of this woman.
- 17:48$250,000, right.
- 17:53And here's the thing.
- 17:54She should have known better.
- 17:55I can't tell you what she did for a living, but she did stuff for a living that she should have known better.
- 18:00Imagine you have 104 payments towards student loan forgiveness with 16 left to go.
- 18:05You log in one morning and it says 97.
- 18:08What the heck happened?
- 18:09Public service loan forgiveness is supposed to wipe out what's left on your federal student loans after 120 qualifying payments while you work full time for the government or a qualifying nonprofit.
- 18:21The education department recalculated those counts this summer.
- 18:24And some people watched months of credit disappear.
- 18:27The department says it is fixing counter.
- 18:30It was fixing counter code Errors going back to 2024.
- 18:34So what we're talking about here is there are certain jobs, if you agree to do 10 years of service, basically 120 months, they will forgive your student loans.
- 18:45And here's the part that's important to understand.
- 18:46A lot of people took these jobs.
- 18:48They're lower paying jobs, but they're looking at the benefit down the road of how these student loans are going to pay it off, are going to get paid off.
- 18:56Now, the thing I don't like about this headline is this was a silent thing.
- 19:00They didn't send out any letters, they didn't pay any attention to any of these things.
- 19:05So here's what you do to fix this.
- 19:07If you log into student aid.gov again, that studentaid.gov type it in yourself again, find your qualifying payment count and write the number down with today's date next to it and then compare it to your own records.
- 19:20Look at your old pay stubs, look at your old bank records.
- 19:23This may be one of those things where the government made a mistake.
- 19:26Look at your statements.
- 19:28Don't assume that they're correct because there's a lot of things that could be going into making that a problem for you.
- 19:33Here's what I tell everybody.
- 19:34You're going to lose about 40% of whatever you're taking out in tax.
- 19:41Yeah, that's crazy.
- 19:42So that's a big deal now with my son who came to me and said, Dad, I have $1,700 in this.
- 19:48I said to him, I said, here's your options.
- 19:50He didn't have a new 401k.
- 19:51I said, you can put the money into an IRA.
- 19:53I knew my son wasn't going to do that.
- 19:55He wasn't going to take the time to go set up the account.
- 19:58And Honestly, he was 23 at the time.
- 20:00I said, take the money, pay the tax and put it into your emergency savings account.
- 20:06So for him, the amount of money, it made sense to do that.
- 20:08Sure, he lost some money, but it wasn't as dramatic for him because he was in a lower tax bracket.
- 20:13So he had to pay 12% federal tax and 10% state and an 8%, excuse me, 12% state, 10% penalty, 8% stage.
- 20:21So he paid about 30%.
- 20:22So he did take a haircut.
- 20:23It's kind of funny.
- 20:24He's a barber now, so he took a haircut.
- 20:26But in his case, it made sense.
- 20:29For most people, though, it doesn't make sense because of that.
- 20:33And I've even had people say to me, but Ralph, I'M paying a lot on credit cards.
- 20:37I get that.
- 20:38But if you're going to lose 40% right from the jump, I don't know of too many credit cards that are charging you 40% interest.
- 20:48Right.
- 20:48So I am not a huge fan of taking no.
- 20:50And that's what you think about.
- 20:51But the bigger thing, and this person didn't ask about this, if you leave an employer, don't forget about those things.
- 20:58Don't forget about that retirement account that you have.
- 21:00Because so many people walk away.
- 21:02What I have seen, most lenders are between 500 and 1000.
- 21:06Once you go over a thousand, the lender's like, no.
- 21:07And here's what happens if that happens.
- 21:10The lender gets a little report card from the insurance company.
- 21:15The insurance company will send a postcard and says, hey, this particular driver that you have a loan for, because they're going to register with each other, change their deductible, and then what happens?
- 21:27A lender is going to reach out to you and say, juliet, hey, we love having you as a customer, but we got a problem here.
- 21:32Yeah.
- 21:32When you signed a contract for us to lend you money for the car loan, you agreed that you would make your deductible no more than 500.
- 21:39Right.
- 21:39And we just found out it's now $2,000.
- 21:43So you have two choices, Juliet.
- 21:45You can either go back to your insurance company and fix this, or we're going to do something called forced placed insurance.
- 21:52Forced placed insurance is the lender actually goes out and buys a policy that is not for your benefit and they charge you for it.
- 22:00In that case, if I get, like a forced placed insurance, does that mean I have two insurances?
- 22:05Well, you don't have two insurances.
- 22:07The lender has bought insurance to make sure they're covered.
- 22:10Correct.
- 22:11And they're gonna charge you for it, and it's gonna cost five times what it will cost you.
- 22:15Wins of the week.
- 22:16I'm super excited because in the next hour or so, I'm gonna see my grandson.
- 22:21He is coming down from New York, so we are going to spend a weekend together.
- 22:24My oldest son and I are going to a University of Delaware football game tomorrow.
- 22:28I guess my big win of the week is.
- 22:30I'm really enjoying this show.
- 22:32I'm really enjoying the time I'm spending with Juliet, with Abby behind the scenes, and with all of you, and Duchess of NJ and the other people who have joined us.
- 22:41This is what I want to do.
- 22:42And I really appreciate every one of you because there are things that you do in life because you have to.
- 22:47And there's things that you do because you want to.
- 22:50And this is a want to for me.
- 22:51And you guys are making my dreams come true with this.
- 22:54And I mean that from my heart is one of the things that I want to do in this next chapter of my life.
- 22:58Because I'm not a spring chicken.
- 23:00Hit 54, I guess it was last week.
- 23:02I want to be able to do this for people to make an impact on their lives.
- 23:07And I want to thank every single one of you involved with this show because you're helping me be impactful to other people, and that's making me grow as a human being.
- 23:14So that's my win for the week,.
- 23:16And I'm just going to continue that.
- 23:18First of all, shout out to Duchess of nj girl.
- 23:20I am a shoe girly, too.
- 23:22Okay, we can talk about that later.
- 23:23I'm a shoe guy, too.
- 23:24You don't want to know how many pairs of shoes I have.
- 23:27We will talk about that one day as well.
- 23:30So as you guys can know, you know, the.
- 23:33The show is really early on and we're trying to build a community, but we really want insights from you guys.
- 23:37Like, what do you guys want from.
- 23:39What do you guys need, you know, on top of just me and Ralph shooting?
- 23:46I don't think I can say that on air, but, you know, like, shooting the breeze.
- 23:50Right?
- 23:50Shooting the breeze.
- 23:51That's fair to say.
- 23:51On air.
- 23:52I got no issue with that.
- 23:55Yeah, but like, what do you guys.
- 23:57What do you guys want?
- 23:57What kind of conversations do you want to see?
- 23:59How do you want to be in community with one another?
- 24:03Let us know, because we are here to make sure everybody feels financially confident, not just, you know, conversation between us.
- 24:12That's the goal.
- 24:13I mean, every day, when I think about what do I want this show to do today, it's to make people feel financially confident.
- 24:20And as I say on the show all the time, it's a journey.
- 24:23All of us are on this journey together.
- 24:25Some of us are in different places on the journey, But I can assure you all of us are on this journey and we're not alone in that.
- 24:32We're all together in this.
- 24:33And that's why I love this community.
- 24:34So thank you, Juliet.
- 24:35Thank you, Abby behind the scenes.
- 24:37Thank you everybody who joined us.
- 24:39And again, that's the show for today.
- 24:41I'm Ralph Estepp Jr.
- 24:42And I'm Juliet.
- 24:44And again, if you've got questions for the show, just like the two voicemails we got today, go to our website.
- 24:48It's becomingfinanciallyconfident.com you can talk about more of the stuff on the show.
- 24:53Make sure you join us Monday for the live show.
- 24:56And please invite other people to either join us live or just send them a link to the show.
- 25:01Because we want to grow this.
- 25:02We want to reach more people because our goal here every single day is breaking free from money.
- 25:08Shame.
- 25:09One conversation at a time.
- 25:10So have a great weekend.
- 25:11I'm going to go spend some time with my grandson Carson.
- 25:14I can't wait.
- 25:22Sat.