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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 11-24-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwall time here on a Monday afternoon, Jeff Legwall,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
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  Speaker 2: You start with a job and you end with a career.
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  Speaker 1: Leggie, let's dive into it. Your first conversations with Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton of the week, and he was eager to give
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  Speaker 1: you the status of Patricks or Tan and Alex Singleton
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  Speaker 1: going into the week. Okay, Uh, Shawn's we'll call it
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  Speaker 1: reticence to answer aside, Uh, what do we know about
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  Speaker 1: the status of those two players, particularly Certan because like,
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  Speaker 1: if they weren't gonna put him on IR, it has
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  Speaker 1: to be because he's gonna play this game, right.
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  Speaker 3: You would think that's the case. You know again, you
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  Speaker 3: know the information I've been that's been conveyed to me,
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  Speaker 3: you know the last couple of weeks is that they
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  Speaker 3: were shooting for Wednesday when they're out there, that both
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  Speaker 3: of those guys are out there in some fashion. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what does that mean? You know? Is it limited? Is
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  Speaker 3: it stretching only? And then they jog off to the
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  Speaker 3: side field to work with the trainers. You only don't
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  Speaker 3: know any of that yet, But I'm still working off
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  Speaker 3: the information that both guys should be on the field
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  Speaker 3: in some fashion Wednesday when we see them all. But
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  Speaker 3: as you know, Nate, until I see it with my
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  Speaker 3: own eyes, I will stand on that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess Jeff, as you charted these games, what did
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  Speaker 1: you see is the greatest impact on the secondary?
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  Speaker 2: Without certain out there.
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  Speaker 3: It limits They have to be sort of more creative
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  Speaker 3: how they get in and out of some of their
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  Speaker 3: man demand looks that aren't always man de man defense.
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  Speaker 3: They play a lot of man defense more than anybody else,
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  Speaker 3: but they also show a lot of man defense. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's man demn on only one side of the leverage
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  Speaker 3: sometimes and then it's you know a lot of combinations others.
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  Speaker 3: They've they've had to be more judicious and creative about
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  Speaker 3: how they use everybody win, Sir, Tan's not the you
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  Speaker 3: just handle the best receiver guy. You know this many
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  Speaker 3: snaps and it you know, it has put Riley Moss
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  Speaker 3: on the hot seat a little bit, and we've seen
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  Speaker 3: that with the flags and some of the other things. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but you know they've done really well without him. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you'd really want to be and the
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  Speaker 3: biggest games you'll play this season. You know, without him
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  Speaker 3: back there, he's the best at what he does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he absolutely is.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, in this road game in Washington, I know,
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  Speaker 1: the Manders are a mess and it doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is going to be able to come back
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  Speaker 1: and play in this game. And the receiving corp has
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  Speaker 1: been banged up, and they've lost six in a row,
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  Speaker 1: all of those things. Yeah, but Jeff, and I was
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  Speaker 1: making this point before the spring, is the Broncos play
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  Speaker 1: pretty much every game down to the wire. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: a field goal game pretty much every time out right
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  Speaker 1: now with this football team, and like, you know what
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  Speaker 1: what has to worry them is, well, it only takes
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  Speaker 1: one stupid flag on on Riley Moss late in a game,
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  Speaker 1: in a one score game, in the fourth quarter, and
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  Speaker 1: and that's where things can get flipped a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Like the the necessity to have certain out there against
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  Speaker 1: an opposing number one is so important. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the Riley Moss proclivity for penalty does remain one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest weaknesses on this defense that really, Jeff
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  Speaker 1: like doesn't have many other weaknesses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but and if you give quarterbacks with any sort
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  Speaker 3: of accuracy. The idea that the underthrown ball to Moss's
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  Speaker 3: side is going to be a money play because he's
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  Speaker 3: not you know, even Riley has said this. You know
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  Speaker 3: he's got to play, you know, the proverbial top down
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  Speaker 3: in more situations. That way, if the guy down shifts
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  Speaker 3: on purpose, you know, you don't slam into him. You
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  Speaker 3: have some kind of buffer zone there to deal with it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they might make a catcher too, but it's going to
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  Speaker 3: keep you out of more trouble in those cases. But
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  Speaker 3: if you give any quarterback who knows what they're doing
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  Speaker 3: that kind of thought, they're gonna wait until they think
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  Speaker 3: it's a good spot and they're gonna do it. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, we saw that in the Chiefs game. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know we've seen it in other games. Quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 3: gonna take that shot and they know the ball doesn't
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  Speaker 3: even have to be particularly well thrown to get to
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  Speaker 3: get the flag in that case. And you know, officiating
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  Speaker 3: is a human thing too, and if officials get the
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  Speaker 3: idea you do certain things more than other guys there,
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  Speaker 3: there may be a time when that flag comes out
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  Speaker 3: on you, then it may not have been thrown at
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  Speaker 3: another player.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and Riley Moss has been living that life all
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  Speaker 1: season long. And yeah, I do think the reputation is
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  Speaker 2: Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: We always I think, like from the outside view the
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  Speaker 1: bye week as an opportunity for reflection, for for for
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  Speaker 1: an internal audit, so to speak, for the Broncos to
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  Speaker 1: go in and look under the hood and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is what's going on, this is what we're doing well,
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  Speaker 1: this is where we need to improve.
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  Speaker 2: Sean.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he talked about the penalties yet again today,
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  Speaker 1: but in terms of looking for substantive changes, particularly on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, two game plans. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think that the Broncos came up with this week?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hate to, you know, pop the proverbial balloon,
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  Speaker 3: but but I will say that, uh, someone, that thinking
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  Speaker 3: we all do, including me, is antiquated because because the
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  Speaker 3: collection of data is so much easier now than it
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  Speaker 3: used to be, teams are doing what they used to
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  Speaker 3: do on the bye week every week, No they uh,
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  Speaker 3: and it used to be a real thing that the
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  Speaker 3: bye week was the only way a small coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: that didn't have all these analysts and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: entry level coaches and you know, quality control people. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't have all these people. So the bye week was really,
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  Speaker 3: honestly the only chance they could go through all the
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  Speaker 3: games with the you know, the fine tooth home they
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  Speaker 3: needed to. They do that week to week now, so
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot less of the let's go discover some
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  Speaker 3: data during the bye week we don't already have that.
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  Speaker 3: That really doesn't happen, but you can coaches can make
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  Speaker 3: the you know, let me go back and look at
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  Speaker 3: this series of plays, you know, in this section of
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  Speaker 3: the run game, and you know, do I like how
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  Speaker 3: we're doing that? And it's more those things, and I
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  Speaker 3: would expect to see some things in the run game
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  Speaker 3: that they like. I would think we would see more
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  Speaker 3: of it. But you know, I'm always skeptical on the
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  Speaker 3: run game because they just don't want to seem to
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  Speaker 3: dive in with the vigor. You know, I think they
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  Speaker 3: should sometimes, But I think that's really where the bye
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  Speaker 3: week goes now, and it really is about, especially this
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  Speaker 3: late in the year, you're just trying to be as
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  Speaker 3: healthy as possible for the last stretch run here to
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  Speaker 3: get the best seeding possible if you're the Broncos. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they gave most of their attention to getting
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  Speaker 3: the injured people healthy and keeping the healthy people healthy
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of the way and and did a
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  Speaker 3: little of the fine fine tuning. But I wouldn't expect
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  Speaker 3: major major things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you no to your point that that again,
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  Speaker 1: I can go digging through next gen stats, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: God knows that I do every single week and and
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  Speaker 1: start finding things because I love that stuff. But you're
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  Speaker 1: absolutely right about and by the way they they you know,
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  Speaker 1: what they have uh, in terms of proprietary information is
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  Speaker 1: far greater than anything uh that a dork like me
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  Speaker 1: gets out on the outside. So, Jeff, you have you've
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity now to you know again, like take
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  Speaker 1: a look at r J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey.
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  Speaker 1: R J Harvey, who was at a very good season
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  Speaker 1: catching the football. He has been a he has developed
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  Speaker 1: into the piece uh that the Broncos needed him to
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  Speaker 1: be in that way as a ball carrier. Where are
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  Speaker 1: we at right now with r J. Harvey and how
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  Speaker 1: can they get the best out of him the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the way, presuming he's the number one back, which
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  Speaker 1: is what I presume.
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  Speaker 3: He you know, I think sometimes and I thought this
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  Speaker 3: watching him as a as a draft project, our prospect
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  Speaker 3: rather and I said this to a couple of scouts
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  Speaker 3: leading up to it. I think sometimes he still thinks
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  Speaker 3: the game like a quarterback, and that's going to slow
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  Speaker 3: you down as a running back. But he he is
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  Speaker 3: a smart, smart guy and knows what he's looking at
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  Speaker 3: in coverages and blocking schemes. He's got a quarterback eye
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  Speaker 3: because that's what he was, you know, when he went
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  Speaker 3: to college. And I still think he thinks the game
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  Speaker 3: that way sometimes. And I would liken it to the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the hockey team that doesn't shoot on the
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  Speaker 3: power play. They want it to be the prettiest play possible,
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  Speaker 3: Like the goal won't count if the goal he touches
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  Speaker 3: the puck. I think sometimes he's just got to get
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  Speaker 3: it up in there for the four yard game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that four yard game may become a twenty two
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  Speaker 3: yard game if he breaks a tackle. And I think
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  Speaker 3: we saw more of that in their last game. I
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  Speaker 3: thought he was better at choosing, you know, when to
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  Speaker 3: say when on the runs, and I think as that improves,
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  Speaker 3: his production will improve. But you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times you see a player who may not understand what's
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  Speaker 3: happening in front of him. That is not our J.
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  Speaker 3: Harvey's issue. You know, he he knows his assignments, he
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  Speaker 3: knows what the defense is doing. He knows maybe too much,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in some things. But I think as he
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  Speaker 3: improves that sort of decision of when to hit the
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  Speaker 3: gas on the run and take it up into the
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  Speaker 3: into the hole, I think it will be a better
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  Speaker 3: you know, they'll get better results, and it will be
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  Speaker 3: good for the offense because they're going to need them.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna need a good, good stretch run
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  Speaker 3: from him to go where they want to go.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Leggie, you needed him to think
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  Speaker 1: like a smarter quarterback on that trick play the other day.
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  Speaker 2: But outside of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's not the I love. I loved bow Nixon's
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  Speaker 3: comment on that that it was a lot more open
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  Speaker 3: in practice. I thought that was a pretty good That
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  Speaker 3: was pretty good delivery from the young quarterback, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a nice little pause and then the uh and then
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  Speaker 3: the delivery.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's savvy at the podium, Jeff Legwold, Jeff, let's
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  Speaker 1: go around the NFL really quick for the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes of some other things. First off, Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 1: got fired yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: After that's expensive right there.
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  Speaker 2: No kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Gino Smith was sacked ten times yesterday by the Cleveland Browns,
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  Speaker 1: whose pass rush is outstanding. And Miles Garrett is going
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  Speaker 1: to win Defensive Player of the Year on a terrible
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  Speaker 1: team and he has absolutely earned his way into that.
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  Speaker 1: This current Raiders mess and Pete Carroll's comments today sort
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  Speaker 1: of alluding to well issues on the offense and kind
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  Speaker 1: of making it sound like, well, I sure would like
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  Speaker 1: to be back, but have a greater voice in hiring
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  Speaker 1: the offensive staff. This Raiders thing from afar, it just
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  Speaker 1: looks like a disjointed mess. When you talk to people
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  Speaker 1: around the league. What have they said about where the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders have gone so wrong?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, look at the drafts, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: look at their coaching decisions. You can't just keep making
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  Speaker 3: constant u turns. You know, Oh, we're hiring this guy.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna pay him six million dollars, We're gonna make
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  Speaker 3: him the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league, and
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't even make a season you know that has
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  Speaker 3: that's impactful decision making, and not in a good way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's just and they don't. They seem still
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  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, very reactionary to public opinion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, let's do this if everybody's fired up about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good it's a it's an element to have
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  Speaker 3: if you're running a team, but it can't be why
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  Speaker 3: you're making decisions. And they have a very passionate fan
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  Speaker 3: base that that speaks up and is heard has always
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  Speaker 3: been heard by the ownership, even when Al was running
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  Speaker 3: the team. So it's just that Al wasn't like this
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  Speaker 3: old school scout, you know, he could find players and
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  Speaker 3: they at a time when you know, before free agency,
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  Speaker 3: they made a lot of football hey by signing people,
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  Speaker 3: signing players other people were done with and get a
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  Speaker 3: little more out of them. You don't really do that anymore.
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  Speaker 3: It's really hard to live on that side of the street.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: You got to You got to develop draft and develop
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  Speaker 3: it over well over half your roster if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to succeed, and like the Broncos here, if you don't
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  Speaker 3: figure out the quarterback along the way too, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna make it all difficult. So there. I think their
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  Speaker 3: biggest problems when you talk to personnel people is that
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  Speaker 3: their talent level isn't spectacular and they're not great at
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  Speaker 3: making those decisions right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's also I look at them and I say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I I think brock Bauers is a hell of a player.
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  Speaker 2: I love Genty coming out of college, but like.
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  Speaker 1: That, that organization has so many issues right now, and it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, somebody equated it to like having like a
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  Speaker 1: shiny hood ornament on a car that doesn't run. Like
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  Speaker 1: that's what brock Bauers and Ashton Genty essentially are on
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  Speaker 1: that roster right now.
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  Speaker 3: I want to and some of it, Nate, Sorry I
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  Speaker 3: interrupt you, but it's how much is ownership involved in
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  Speaker 3: those decisions? Right? I think John Spytech in my dealings
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  Speaker 3: with John, he's he is a good scout, he has
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  Speaker 3: an eye for talent. He has worked for teams and
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  Speaker 3: found players. But are they letting him do that with
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  Speaker 3: the complete freedom he needs to do that with? You know,
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  Speaker 3: are he and the coach working together? You know, was
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  Speaker 3: Pete Carroll his idea? John spi Tech's idea, you know
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  Speaker 3: what you know, and that's the thing. You got to
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  Speaker 3: have alignment here with the Broncos. You know, George Peyton
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  Speaker 3: has to go in the draft room and know beyond
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  Speaker 3: a shadow of a doubt the kind of player Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton wants and that's how you go from there. And
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  Speaker 3: then you you find the highest graded players of that
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  Speaker 3: type and you, you know, you build your team. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't get a sense that they're doing that. But
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  Speaker 3: I think Spy Tech is a really good football guy.
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  Speaker 3: Again in my dealings with him, and I think if
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  Speaker 3: they gave him the rain to do it, he could
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  Speaker 3: he could get them a roster that could compete.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but again it comes it comes down to organizational
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  Speaker 1: alignment and having people in places that you believe in,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think that's what the Raiders have right now,
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  Speaker 1: and they just continue to be a weird, weird mess.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwold Every Buddy brought to you by the International
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  Speaker 1: bon Nicks last week. Excellent work on that keep up
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  Speaker 1: the good work man
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  Speaker 3: I'll do my best to see you guys later