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2126 - Pop and Bravo with Corey and Carly of Surviving Reality · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday. It's a
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  Speaker 1: Pop and Bravo episode. We're going to talk about pop culture.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Bravo. If you're watching on video, um,
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  Speaker 1: Ignore the super red face. I told you guys I
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  Speaker 1: got like a skin peel and it did its job.
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  Speaker 1: I got my money's worth. All my skin will be
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  Speaker 1: coming off, but right now I look like a sunburn.
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  Speaker 1: But that's either here or there. I'm just explaining if
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  Speaker 1: you're watching on video. I am here with two people
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  Speaker 1: that I believe I broke their video cherry. And that
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  Speaker 1: is Corey and Carly of Surviving Reality.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're right up in there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say it's true. You pressured us
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  Speaker 3: into it and we did it.
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  Speaker 2: It was the right amount of pressuring, though. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was good. It was good.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, if you don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: on video, it's fine. Just let me know. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: that was pressure, then it hasn't worked on Kim of
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  Speaker 1: Cray Cray yet. It hasn't worked on Kim of Cray
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  Speaker 1: Cray yet.
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  Speaker 3: Easily peer pressured over here.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't take much. Yeah, we were kind of on the
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  Speaker 2: cusp there at the time.
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  Speaker 1: People were like, wait, Corey and Carly are showing themselves?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We still get comments about that. It's been a while.
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  Speaker 3: It's been like over a year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And still people are like, oh, my gosh, this is
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  Speaker 2: what you look like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Still happening, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, look how cute we are. We're so cute.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's been very nice.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice. That helped. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, do you, is your little studio in your, just
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  Speaker 1: in your house?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's just down in the basement set up.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like a cavernous professional studio.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. It's really not.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: If you saw the other side of the room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot going on over there.
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  Speaker 2: Different, little different.
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  Speaker 1: That is, um, me too. And normally I'm more zoomed in,
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  Speaker 1: but because of my face, I'm zoomed out because like
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  Speaker 1: over there is just like, shelving of clothes that I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to sell on Poshmark. And then like over here,
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  Speaker 1: I just throw things because generally I'm pretty zoomed in,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, that's what it is today. Okay. So
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  Speaker 1: we have lots to talk about. You guys watch some Bravo,
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  Speaker 1: but you're mostly, you're a sister wives based podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we have surviving sister wives where we really delve
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  Speaker 2: in on sister wives on TLC and then some adjacent
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  Speaker 2: content for that. Like we were recapping big love and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So that's like the HBO show. That's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: inspiration for sister wives in some ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we kind of were connecting the dots on some
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  Speaker 2: of that. And then we have surviving reality where that's
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  Speaker 2: where we kind of, Oh, we're all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Now we got, branch out a lot more branched out
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  Speaker 2: to a bunch of different.
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  Speaker 3: Lives of mormon wives a lot of obviously mormon and
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  Speaker 3: sister wives adjacent stuff right yep uh like you said
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  Speaker 3: real housewives of salt lake city on bravo we're doing
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  Speaker 3: the traders right now so a lot of tlc um
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  Speaker 3: and then a lot of peacock too.
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  Speaker 2: Peacock stuff yeah and then true crime sprinkled in here
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  Speaker 2: and there as well we dabble we dabble yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man, you guys love some like fucked up religious people, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's our bread and butter.
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  Speaker 2: The basis for it all. Yes. Cult adjacent type things. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think for us, people get weirded out by it, though,
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  Speaker 2: when you explain of like, oh, here's the shows that
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  Speaker 2: I cover. And it's a lot of like Mormon type things.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, but we are not Mormon like at
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  Speaker 2: all in any way, shape or form. Like I grew
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  Speaker 2: up kind of like. fundamental Christian sort of little sheltered,
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  Speaker 2: sheltered ish, you know, like the, not like super fundy fundy,
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  Speaker 2: not like Plathville fundy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I went to, I went to church with
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  Speaker 2: people who were living that Plathville life though. So it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's a little bit of, there's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of experience in there.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about doing a, like a rewatch
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  Speaker 1: of the Duggars? Oh, Or it's currently too dark and
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  Speaker 1: you can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's too dark in hindsight. In hindsight, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But it would be really fascinating. Also, I think that
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  Speaker 3: whole era of reality TV was just so weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like John and Kate Plus Eight when they
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  Speaker 3: were filming all those shows like basically– All year long. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's never got a break.
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  Speaker 2: That's dark now. And going back to John and Kate
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  Speaker 2: plus eight. And then, I mean, Colin's books coming out
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  Speaker 2: soon and we're going to be covering that too.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do a deep dive on that next month.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll check that out.
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  Speaker 3: Can't wait for it to come out. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: October 13th in the shadow of eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be a good one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And then also, you know, on Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of New York, we've got this woman on there
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  Speaker 1: that used to date John Gosselin. That's her literal claim
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  Speaker 1: to fame. And you're like, that's what you're going with?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that should count, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouldn't get you on a Housewives show.
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  Speaker 2: Not a show. A whole show?
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  Speaker 3: What else got you casted? Because I don't think you
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  Speaker 3: can hang your hat on that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot. It's doing a heavy lift, yeah, for
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  Speaker 2: that whole.
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  Speaker 1: Amount of stuff. Well, her dad's a plastic surgeon that
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  Speaker 1: did all of Kate's work.
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  Speaker 2: That helps. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then when John Gosselin left Kate, he went and
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  Speaker 1: stayed at their home, and then she started banging him.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. It was oldest time right there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, right there. You go live with your plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgeon and then the daughter. And then she's married to
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  Speaker 1: some man now that we never see. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think we know his name. But she dates women
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  Speaker 1: openly and has like a second apartment where she does that.
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  Speaker 1: So she is pretty good for housewives, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't that kind of pitched last season by, was it
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  Speaker 3: Whitney to Bronwyn for Real Housewives of Salt Lake City?
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  Speaker 2: Whitney and Bronwyn were chatting about opening up marriages. maybe
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  Speaker 2: against their will, or they got nudged into it the
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  Speaker 2: same way that we got nudged into video with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's just one passing suggestion. And we said, okay, sure.
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  Speaker 2: Twist my arm about it.
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  Speaker 1: It also sort of leads me to double lives as
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  Speaker 1: suburban wives, which is all of the husbands sort of
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  Speaker 1: being like, you know, my wife didn't have any self-confidence.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, babe, you're hot. Let me put
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  Speaker 1: a picture of your ass on the internet with your
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  Speaker 1: vagina out. Dude, 1,200 people liked it. We should fully
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  Speaker 1: quit our jobs and do OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the next logical step after that.
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  Speaker 1: Where we fuck six people in a room while we
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  Speaker 1: record it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: And you're going to do all the work and make
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  Speaker 3: all the money. And then I'm going to stop working too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also, but a lot of the guys do– listen, how
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  Speaker 1: dare you. They do video. So they do point of
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  Speaker 1: view videos while they get blowjobs.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's the hardest job.
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  Speaker 1: What a martyr.
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  Speaker 2: Out of all of them, I think. Really. The sacrifice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What did you think of the finale of it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, so we covered the show and then I had
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  Speaker 1: Ace on last week to tell us all he had seen.
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  Speaker 1: He subscribed to all of their OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 2: All of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we've heard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he sent you some videos or not.
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  Speaker 1: But he sent them to us, and I will never
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  Speaker 1: make the same.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen porn in my life. So I just
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  Speaker 1: thought it was like two people doing it, like a
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  Speaker 1: Skinamax or something. But no, no. No, no. That's not
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  Speaker 1: at all what these ladies are doing.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on what you're into. Well, the ones that
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  Speaker 2: he was subscribing to, the requests that he was making, too,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, well– If you're going to Emily's page, that's.
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  Speaker 3: A different brand. We made the mistake of saying that
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  Speaker 3: we thought that Emily had the best approach out of everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: You agree though, right? Because her content, I would say
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  Speaker 3: most people would be embarrassed in public to come up
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  Speaker 3: and say, hey, remember when you sent me a video
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  Speaker 3: of you farting out candles on a birthday cake last week?
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Like they're probably not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to approach that.
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  Speaker 3: So you don't need your Hannah Montana wig.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You have your own built-in, you know, animosity. Anonymity. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: there's some animosity.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: There is towards Emily from everybody else now.
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  Speaker 2: From everybody else. Well, I think that was why Church
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  Speaker 2: Girl was so upset was it was, hey, why do
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  Speaker 2: you get away with it where I have to lead
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  Speaker 2: my double life with the The full wardrobe change, the
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  Speaker 2: wig and the glasses.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But then she would go out in public in the
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  Speaker 1: wig and the glasses because she didn't want people to
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  Speaker 1: recognize her. But she was in the disguise. There should
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  Speaker 1: have been a third disguise. She didn't. Macy's not the brightest.
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  Speaker 3: No, she did it in the wrong order.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Something. Shouldn't you do the.
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  Speaker 3: Content in a disguise?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could.
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  Speaker 3: That way, when you go out in public, you. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's what she was doing. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Either way.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what she thought she was doing.
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  Speaker 3: She thought.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she thought.
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  Speaker 2: You jumped on that train, too. Really quick. Really quick.
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  Speaker 2: That's what she.
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  Speaker 1: Thought she was doing. Because she didn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed to be seen in public with these hoes.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So she would put on the wig, which would make
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  Speaker 1: people just recognize her more. It made no sense. But
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  Speaker 1: the last episode... They teed it up perfectly about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they showed us kind of at the beginning about how
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  Speaker 1: she was going to be talking to her dad, and
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  Speaker 1: then we had to wait until the end. And it
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  Speaker 1: went exactly as you could have imagined with her dad, right?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they even got to, like, the– all
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  Speaker 2: they needed to say was we do adult content. And
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  Speaker 2: then he was upset by that. I think the more
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  Speaker 2: upsetting part for him would be since he's a pastor
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  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, by the way, my page is
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  Speaker 2: like a whole persona about like this naughty church girl.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that would be a whole... We didn't
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  Speaker 2: even get to that. Yeah, we didn't even broach that.
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  Speaker 3: He left before she even brought up what the theme
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  Speaker 3: of the content was.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would have been even more upsetting to
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  Speaker 2: him at that point. So we were talking about it, though,
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  Speaker 2: when we watched it happen, we were like, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: this happen in, like, episode three of six? So, like,
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  Speaker 2: have the... Instead of building for the whole first season
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  Speaker 2: to be the culmination of, obviously, he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: upset by it. So, like.
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  Speaker 3: Let us see the fallout.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like show us what happens after that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit instead of building to it for just the first season.
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  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think the whole
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  Speaker 1: point of her storyline for the first season is like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to tell them because the show
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  Speaker 1: is going to come out. I did like how they
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  Speaker 1: kept saying like, this show is going to air on television.
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  Speaker 1: We hope. And we're all going to make $ 12 from it.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have to tell our kids. We're going
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  Speaker 1: really just Heather, was telling Rita and Sean seemed to
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  Speaker 1: go full like sling blade, like he could not talk.
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  Speaker 1: He was just moaning and banging his head against the
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  Speaker 1: siding of his house.
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  Speaker 3: I was so uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, what's wrong? Is he– does he need medical attention?
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  Speaker 3: I kind of felt bad for her, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: because he really left it to be on her to
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  Speaker 3: have to communicate everything and then to the kids as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, it was like, come on. You're a grown adult
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  Speaker 3: and you know what you're doing. Like, you should be
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  Speaker 3: able to at least have a conversation with, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whoever it is you're telling where you're not, like, rolling
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  Speaker 3: on the floor, like– acting like.
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  Speaker 2: You're doubled over yeah because then everybody's just ignoring that
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  Speaker 2: that's what's taking place nobody's addressing like are you okay
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  Speaker 2: why are you making these sounds are you no it's
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  Speaker 2: just that's what he does so that's what we're.
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  Speaker 1: Doing very weird behavior yeah it was immature yes and
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  Speaker 1: I did like how the son was like, did that
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  Speaker 1: filthy money pay for my basketball camp?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he was so funny.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, he's a star.
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  Speaker 2: Those were the right questions.
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  Speaker 1: Should we not knock on your door if it's closed?
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  Speaker 1: And they were like, oh my God. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you follow any of them, like just on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so fucking cringy. Like Heather will be walking,
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  Speaker 1: she'll be walking around like, I'm just trying to do housework.
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  Speaker 1: And it's, you know, so she's vacuuming. And then she
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  Speaker 1: picks up the vacuum handle like, no. And then you
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  Speaker 1: see her dusting. Oh, and then she picks up the
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  Speaker 1: handle of that. No. So she sort of goes around
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  Speaker 1: her house looking at things that she could insert, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: Needs to have a flared base. Okay, safety first.
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  Speaker 3: Very creative.
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  Speaker 1: Then one that today Macy put out was... she and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: her friend and it's just shot from the back so
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: they're naked sitting in chairs with their legs wide open
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: and we shot from behind so jim comes in the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: front door not their home comes in the front door
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: with like a golf bag and it says we wanted
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to make sure you played the 19th and 20th hole
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: okay so that's.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: What we're doing that's okay you know so here's the
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: disappointing part Porn is known for being cringy and, like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: the stories aren't very good. It's like, if you're going
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: to be making this yourself, like, come up with something better.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. Right?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that was what our original analysis, though, too,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: was where it's.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: This isn't... It's not porn.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: This isn't porn, necessarily. Like, this is different.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It's obtainable, right?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: It's accessible. The women.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: the women look more like someone you could see in
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: a grocery store. Yeah.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: That makes like a, the fantasy more accessible where it's like,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I could bump into somebody realistically church girl. I can
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: bump into church girl at church maybe, or, you know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Heather at the supermarket or whatever. But like, I think
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: it's that obtainability, the accessibility of the fantasy. That's what
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: people are subscribing to.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Because they're regular-looking women and regular-looking what we call the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: doughboy husbands.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And so you're like, okay, I could watch these two
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: doing it with their neighbors because they could be my neighbors.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe my neighbors would want to get six of us
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: in a room and go for it in exchange.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's like looking into your neighbor's window in some ways
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever if that's what people are going after. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: it's just like that– look in you know kind of
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: oh i shouldn't be but i'll then.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if they continue this show at
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: all but then if they do.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: A thousand percent they will do you think they'll continue the.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Same cast or is this a show that you pick
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: up and you bring somewhere else and now you go
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: to another area where there's.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: You know a lot like this was st louis.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Creators yeah and like explore it their relationship with each
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: other and, you know, coming out. I'm just wondering if
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you can replicate that story.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Well, definitely if they kept the same cast, I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Megan said her goodbyes. First of all, she's boring and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: has no personality. But second of all, she said she's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: going to, I think the takeaway was, I'm going to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: take the $ 10, 000 they gave me And I'm going to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: go back and get my PhD and write a book
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and dah, dah, dah. And I'm like, God, Godspeed.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: What does the P and the D stand for in
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: her PhD that she's getting?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: That's disgusting. She already got it. She already got the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: P and the D. She got it. She, God bless.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think the idea of taking it
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to a different city each time, Wouldn't you love to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: see a Vegas cast of these?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, right?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Like, ew.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's got so much potential if they could
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: just keep moving and finding more interesting people. Because I
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: felt like they were kind of.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: To me, the exciting part of the story isn't hearing
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: them complain the whole time or worry about When they're
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: going to get found out, like if people are going
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: to find out before the show airs or once the
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: show airs and what it's going to be like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: They need to move beyond that, in my opinion.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not as risky because it's like, oh, I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: could lose everything by needing to make content full time
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: where I make a boatload more money than I ever
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: did at my regular job. Like what Heather's situation was
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: by the end of the season where her job found
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: out she got fired, but now she's making money. content
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: full-time online, which I think that was kind of the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: idea was if you're going to be on a show, well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that'll platform you, that'll launch you. You should be doing
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: okay by the time this roll around for that but
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: even just like the way that they advertised the show
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: with like the title card where it's the back of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: everybody's head yeah nobody's faces so we were like are
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: we getting invested in this cast or is this something
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that's going to move around where it's going to be
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you know Double Lives of Suburban Wives, Austin, Texas or something,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like a different location entirely.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Well, Matt Sharp does love a spinoff.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: We know that.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I know he loves a spinoff. When it works, it works. Yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: God bless it. Well, I really will never get over
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: what Ace showed me, so I'm going to try to.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I keep trying to do like a mind eraser on myself.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: No, no. Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Imagine, because next season you could have a whole new
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: group that you can see.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I could have a whole new cervix to see. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was like, do we see small intestine? I've never been
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: so far up into somebody's cavity in my life.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: That's far.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, too far. Ace was like, I held my wife's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: legs while she gave birth and I have never seen
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: these things. He's like, I've literally been eyeball to eyeball
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: with it and have never. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. So,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: all right. Before we go into, like, we're going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: talk about Salt Lake City, which is Bravo. But the traitors,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the traitors with the normies. Yes. How do you like it? Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I was nervous about not having a
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: celebrity cast because sometimes it's harder to get invested in
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: people when you don't know much about them coming in.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: They're so good though.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Well, and like the UK versions, it normally was regular
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: everyday people. It wasn't celebrities. So like their flip was
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they have a UK celebrity version, which I think the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: new one's starting at the beginning of October.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: October 1st.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: October 1st. So, um, that was like kind of the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: flip where it's like the UK version started with normal people.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Then they added a celebrity version. Us did the opposite
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: where it start with celebrities and then go. So, I mean,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: they kind of, they knew the format they've done that before.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I think it introduces a fun element where you have
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: more of the chaos, like we're seeing with Jay specifically,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: where you don't know this person. You've never seen this
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: person until they show up to play this game. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: now this is who.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: You're interacting with. You know nothing about them. Like you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: can't even say like, I don't know them, but they
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: were on Survivor. So they probably have this competitive skill.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Or I don't know them, but they were on Housewives.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So they're probably kind of dumb. You know what I mean?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Like you don't have that at least like what their
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: gameplay might be because you know nothing. I love it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Or even like their jobs, you know, where it's like, oh,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a lawyer, but I'm going to tell everybody I'm
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: a basketball coach.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: That made no sense. I didn't get it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it works out.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't. And it didn't work out. Yeah. Like
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: maybe you would have been better off telling people. Do
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: people do that? Oh, on the UK ones. Yeah, the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: UK one, people would lie all the time where they're like, oh, yeah,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell people what the– there's usually
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: people who are trying to carry a different secret than
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: just being a traitor. Sometimes they reveal it. Sometimes they don't.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So like, that's something that has happened on some of
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the other seasons.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So that's where she got it from probably like, yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: because we've never seen it. I've never watched anything other
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: than the U S celebrity version. So that's interesting. So
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, what would make her think to do that? Like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: why would basketball coach be better or worse than lawyer?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You know? Cause sometimes with like psychologists and stuff like that,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: there's people who get nervous about, Oh, will people have
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a preconceived notion about my, you know, profession being an
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: advantage in this game? Is that going to be, you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: like how on the U S versions, the gamers are
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: always targeted. So all the big brother survivor people that's,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they're the most strategic gameplay. So like get them out
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: as soon as you can. If you're a trader is
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: usually the, mechanic that happens there but yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: That's right that's right that's fascinating okay is jay the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: doctor that was like i'm the body language expert yes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He's kicking his leg every time he comes into breakfast
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and so he's up to 11 now yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: He so i just i literally just saw him doing
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a post and he was holding a microphone that was
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: clipped onto like a prayer candle of himself a candle Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard. I didn't. So he was like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: now that we've got the gay thing out of the way.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And then he goes into and I was like, did
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: we get the gay thing out of the way?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: His wife made an entire post about it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He had said his wife on the show.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: On the show. And then people were like, your wife?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Because everybody's assessment of Jay was that. he is gay
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: because of the way that he comes into breakfast. He's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: very flamboyant. He's, you know, over the top, whatever.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: The stipulations are that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Their perception of him is. And so then, yeah, his
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: wife made a whole post where she was talking for
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: like four and a half minutes where she's like, no,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: everybody's in my dms now telling me that i'm married
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: to a gay man.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And you imagine like like he's been on tv for
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: like a few minutes and people are dming his wife
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: being like just so you know in case you're not
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: aware you're married to a gay.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Man so her whole thing was like we've been together
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: since 2007 like i know this man better than anybody
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: here you know who's in my dms now And then
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: people were like, oh, even if you don't think he's gay,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: he's probably going behind your back. He's probably doing this.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Make sure you get access to the emails. Like tons
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of stuff that she's replying to where she was basically saying,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I have a business with this man. I have access
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to all the things. Not even that that matters. She goes,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: this man has such severe ADHD. If he were able
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to plan and actually coordinate things, Something behind my back,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I would be impressed more than anything at this point. So, like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: that's not happening.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: She's like, he's just theatrical and that's what it is. Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And there's a very heavy stipulation.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And I think it's part of his gameplay is the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: chaos that he's creating of having people second guess themselves
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: and not understand what's going on. Because that's what his
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: video was about that I think you were mentioning that
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: you watched.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Which is super interesting that that was his pitch to
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the producers was that he has this theory about based
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: on chaos theory. And he wanted to see it brought
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: into the traders because nobody's ever played that way before.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Although I think Kate Chastain probably did a little bit
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of that in her season, her first season without realizing
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: that that's what she was.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Doing because she was a faithful and everybody was convinced
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: she was a trader. So then she was like, well,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just throwing money out now.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Throwing challenges.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there was an element of chaos.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: And I think he's interested to see how that'll play
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: out in the house.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So I hope they don't vote him off because he's hilarious.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I know. It's both irritating, but also entertaining.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the interesting part too is where it's like, okay,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: this is him as a faithful person. Do you think
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the traitors would want to recruit him? Do you think
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: he would keep doing the chaos stuff as a traitor then?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think he would probably amp it up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Don't you? He would be like, well, now I'm holding
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: all these secrets. What will I do?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Because if I'm a traitor, that would be my strategy
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: is when you have to recruit, recruit Jay because everyone
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: will be so confused about when he eventually gets banished
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and they find out he was a traitor because their
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: entire theory is going to be, why would somebody act
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: like that if they were a traitor?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Right. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I just think it would turn everything up on its head.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if they would want to,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: because they didn't pick Xavier because they were like, well,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: he went to throwing a traitor under the bus. Like
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that was kind of disruptive already. So I don't know
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: if they would even try. That was the wrong move.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That was the wrong move on his part. And he
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: probably would have been pretty good because he, He's good looking.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: So people were drawn to him. Trusting.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: We saw that work last season. We saw how that
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: works with Rob. All that works.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Rob could have told me anything. I'd have been like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you're right. I had never laid eyes on that man before.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who that man was, but I was like,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I like the snake tattoos.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: You learned.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like your beautiful face. You could, that, yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you could tell me anything. That man could tell me anything.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So it works.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It works.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: That's why I think Kate's got that going for her.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: The little, the little, little girl, Kate, isn't that her name?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: She's got that going for her. Cause she's like cute
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and pretty and, and little.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: So tiny.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Very tiny in the turret. Yes.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: The tiny turret trader. Well, I'm loving it. I'm loving it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And it makes me want to go and watch the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: UK with the normies.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. They're good. Those first few seasons, especially. Oh,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: very good.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Very good.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: That was where it started, right?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I think so, because then was the UK version the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: first one?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not positive.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I don't remember, because there's so many now. There's so many.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: There's three seasons of Traders Canada now that popped up
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: on Peacock, and I was like, what? Where did that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: come from? So, yeah, there's a bunch more to go through. Oh, Lord.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, too much for me. Okay, so also I want
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to talk to you guys about, and we are going
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to get to Bravo for those that are waiting for it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: We got to quickly dip into the last season of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Plathville because you guys are Plathville lovers. Like I am.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I recently twice now I've talked to Ross Matthews because
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: he's hosting these TLC secondary 90 day reunions. So he
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: did like hunt for love and last resort. He's really good.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And he's a huge 90 day fan. So he was like, yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I've just been trying so hard to get to a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: new show. I was thinking I was going to watch
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like something. And I go, no, if you've never, if
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you really want to show to like dig your teeth
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: into who had a lot of, you know, it's, it's Plathville.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And then when I talked to him the second time,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he's like, I still am looking for a show. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: was like, I've already told you what the show is.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Your search is over.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: It's the best show you'll ever see in your life.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And I stand by it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Stand by it. We're doing a rewatch over on our prime.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm doing it with my co-host Keisha. And Keisha
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: didn't know one thing about it, had never watched it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And Keisha is black, so she labeled it Whitey Wednesday.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: We talk about it on Wednesday. She's like, these are
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the whitest white people I've ever seen in my life.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: She's not wrong. She's not wrong.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: We get very excited. Next week, where we are now,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: is next week is remember when Kim– has a black
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: friend and sits down with her. You could remember it
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: because it was only, not the Jamaican guy that came
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to make them dinner. Not that guy.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, not that guy.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Not that guy. It was a woman. And I told,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I told Keisha, I said, I believe what's happening next week.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: They show her sitting with this woman saying, I found
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: somebody like I'm going to be dating who we've already seen,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and with Isaac. And, She tells this woman
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and Keisha goes, I just noted that this was a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: black woman. And I said, yes. I said, but I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: believe the woman like rented the apartment above the dance studio.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And that's how they became friends.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: A tenant.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: A tenant. Yeah. That's paying her. Right. But next week
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: is when she says, well, I have found a guy
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I've been dating. And we're all like, blow some more
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: smoke up our ass, Kim. You've been dating this guy
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: for eight months, you know? We already saw him last
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: episode selling the airplane to Isaac. So she's also excited
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to get into what you guys have labeled K.K. Ken.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: K.K. Ken, yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: With the rest of us. The rest of us have
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: taken up that mantle to call him K.K.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Ken.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I hope you're okay with it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, he deserves it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: He's earned it. Yeah. That's the whole thing. Yeah. It's just.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: So what did you guys think about last season, season eight,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: where they really did a turnaround on all Lydia and Zach? Oh, man.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I found it very upsetting.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: It was okay.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: So are Zach and Lydia objectively annoying?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. I wouldn't want to spend time with them.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I think that they are trying to impose their views
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: on other people. But it's really frustrating to see the
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: show take up the Plath family's narrative where it's always
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: somebody else and it's never them.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's never Kim specifically.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: It's never Kim.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like they're still trying to frame it
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: as the outsider is the problem. So it's like Zach
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: has come in and now he's influencing Lydia to– I guess,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: speak up more about the things that she's uncomfortable with.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Cause problems.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: And causing rifts.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by their standards.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Because she used to just do everything Kim said and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: now she doesn't.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Right. That's a real problem. She's left her family and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: cleaved to her husband. As it says in the Bible.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: As they taught her to. And yet it's a problem.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Shocking. Shockingly. So I think that's the big thing that's
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: on display is where it's like, it's Plath family... But
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: then also there's the religious component where it's like, no,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: now you have to go. She would have to go
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and live life on Zach's terms, essentially, is how they've
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: trained her up to do this. And it's like, well,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you can't do both of those. So then Lydia is
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: caught in the middle. So that's just it's rough. The
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: other show that we've been watching, Little People, Big World,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: we've been going through the old episodes of that. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: it's reminding us of when we saw. Jeremy and Audrey
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: when they first got married the oldest son on that
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: show and his wife were very religious where then it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: as soon as they get married they immediately become marriage
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: experts so there's like this amazing thing that happens for
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: like youth group kids that get married in their early
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: 20s And they are now marriage experts. And it's like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: just because you did that, just because you got there,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that's like the finish line of you being now.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: That's what they think. I got someone to marry me,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: so now I know everything about marriage.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That is such a great point.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: It's right in there.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: With the two of them just like, now that we're married,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, girl, you did not kiss your husband twice.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Until your wedding day after you sang a song to him.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that? When she sang to him at
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the wedding? I interviewed Olivia and I said, she had
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: not been to the wedding, obviously. But I said, Olivia,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't go to the wedding, but Lydia sang.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And not well, but sang to Zach before the thing.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of such a thing at a wedding?
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And Olivia says, yeah, at Hosanna's wedding. She sang to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: her husband.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. Oh, that sounds like a Kimmy request.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Kim Plath wedding planning.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, we're not new to people
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: singing at weddings, but usually it's the mother of the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: bride for Sister Wives from Christine. No.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Let me call you sweetheart. No, what?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was rough. Oh, that was a rough one.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: That was for McKelty and Tony's wedding. Oh, no. But
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that was our joke when we were recapping. It was
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that we think that McKelty and Tony's wedding theme was
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: just trolling. We think that they were just... out to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: like get one over on everybody like that was their
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: thing was they were just entertaining themselves so they were
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: coming up with just ridiculous scenarios to ask people on
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: their wedding day it would make me happy if you
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: sing us a song in front of everyone just sing
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: sing a song to us and so that was what they.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Did christine did it is she known to be a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: singer oh no no It was very, very bad.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: She had vocal lessons, which did not help much in
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the end.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And she was terrified, nervous, so stressing out over it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I think that was the goal. That
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: was the point. That was the whole point. Yeah, I
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: think it was a flex of just, here, I want
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you to do this, something that will make you wildly
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable on this special day.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: It is Christine, the mother of McKelty?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Biological mom, yes.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Biological mother. I know a lot about these people. But
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the names and things, I'll never be.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Able to– There's so many.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll never be able to– I don't even understand
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: what the names are. McKelty is like Michael K.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Everything's a Y. Yeah, everything's got a Y in it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And there's like a Trudy or a Truly or a– Truly, yeah. Truly, yeah.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: We jokingly call her Trudy too because that's always the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: thing is that it's like Cody doesn't know his own
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: kids' names too.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: So there's a few– Hasn't seen Truly in a while.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: When he was announcing moves and he's like, son, I
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: know you're very upset about this, son.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he just says that because he's like, this
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: kid is wearing a t-shirt and shorts. Must be a boy.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: General kid. General kid. Kid in the house.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: That show's coming back. You guys pumped?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: They dropped a preview this morning of Mary talking about
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: splitting up their photos, and she already seems to have
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: a bit of a toot about it, so that should
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: be very fun to see the three of them get
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: back together, Mary Janelle and Christine.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: The OG3.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: See how it goes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Bringing it back. Yeah. Okay. No Cody and Robin this season, so.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: But Cody and Robin are not. on the season or
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: they're just not filming with the others.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: They said that they're not on it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're in the picture though. They're in the
• 38:00
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  Speaker 3: They fade away.
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  Speaker 3: So the other thing that's very interesting is they had
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: a house that was purchased nearby to where they were
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  Speaker 3: all living in Flagstaff that production used. And that house
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  Speaker 3: was listed for sale like a month ago. So- it
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  Speaker 3: makes you wonder like Cody and Robin might never be
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  Speaker 3: coming back to the show. If they're getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: the house where like, I think that's where they had
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the studio set up where they would do the couch interviews.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that was like, they're selling that house.
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  Speaker 2: It was like by coyote pass. They don't have coyote
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: pass anymore since they sold that too. So maybe it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: was because of that, but I think it's, it was
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: also close to Robin and Cody's house where they were living.
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  Speaker 2: And so then now they've moved to the other side
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: of town. They bought a bigger house.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: And quit.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And quit the show. So it's like, well, yeah, don't
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: need that. But what would.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: They do for work and money?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: This is a great question. This is a great question.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Cody supposedly sells pew-pews.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or like pew-pew accessories at shows. So like that's
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: most of that, like what he's been doing. There's photos
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: of him at various shows and things of those meetups
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what else because it seems like they
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: spend a lot of money.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: So they need a lot of money on.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Bad artwork, if I recall correctly.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Bear sculptures and David Yerman jewelry and dollies.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Instruments, too. Yeah, they had two pianos at the house
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: that they had to pack up. So there's a lot
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of stuff. A lot of stuff.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of Pandora bracelets energy is what I'm.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: No shade to Pandora.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: All shade to Pandora bracelets. They're terrible. Okay.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I was trying to walk it back. I was like, why? Okay.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: All right. So let's talk about Salt Lake City. So
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: this is one of the Bravo shows that you guys watch.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And it's funny that it all just ties into like,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you know, all the, the Mormons and everything. It's, it's,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It's interesting at the beginning when you told me that,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sensing a pattern. I'm sensing a pattern.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: It would be hilarious if you guys like dropped that
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: backdrop behind you and it was a window and it
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was like the Salt Lake Mountains. Like you guys were
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: just right there. You guys were just right there in
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the mountains. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Temple windows.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: You can see it from our house. Wow.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Amazing. Salt Lake City. Now, what were your thoughts on
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: how they handled the death of Robert Jr.? They opened
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: with it and lots of people think that it was
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: handled well and lots of people think that they understand
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: why Mary wouldn't want to leave the show because she's
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: got to kind of keep going and not just sit
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: around and wallow. Other people think, you know, this is
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a problem she might be relieved that it's over for
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: her because probably it doesn't go so well with... It's hard.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It's very hard to have someone in your life that's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: an addict that you're trying to help. So what are
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: your overall thoughts?
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: I do think that they handled the episode really well.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Bravo does a very good job of finding moments of
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: levity in things that are very hard to talk about.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And they handled it, I think, in a very... responsible
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: way and it was impressive that the cast was on
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: their best behavior because they're not known for that well
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: they were for a little.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Bit and then Whitney wanted everybody to know she's on
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: another hill and journey and she doesn't want to pretend
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that they're all friends because she's trying to hell from
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: her hill and journey of when she said bad things
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: on stage when she was drunk She had to bring
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that up at the end just to be like, don't
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: forget I did something terrible in the off season that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we got to discuss so I can stay on the show.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We go hard on her. I really don't enjoy Whitney.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I find her very disingenuous.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: So, okay. Well, we need to caveat this too. Carly
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: is incredible. Incredibly biased when it comes to Real Housewives
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I love Lisa Barlow and I know that that's not
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: a take that a lot of people are on the
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: same side with.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Ride or die.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I love Lisa Barlow too because she's such a great housewife.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying. She's delusional.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Totally. Okay, as long as you're aware.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. You don't love her like, God, I know
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that she'd be so much fun to go and have
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a drink with. And we would be great friends. You
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: love her in the sense that. She's so delusional. She's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: a great housewife.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I absolutely would not ever want to be friends with
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: her because you know that all she does is talk
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: about you when you're not there.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, you never get off the phone.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: All she does is call you and talk for four
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: hours straight about herself.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And then she doesn't even know what your husband's name is.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Do you have kids? Do you have dogs? Do you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: have a job? She knows nothing about you.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Yes. But you're such good friends.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Such good friends.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Great friends. Right, right, right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I love– I can't remember what– I think it was
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: on Salt Lake, but I can't be sure. When they
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: asked somebody at the reunion, do you know her children's names? What?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Was it on Salt Lake? I feel like they asked
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow, do you know the name of Whitney's children?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Or something like that. That is such a hilarious question
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: because this is a very, very, very quick side quest.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Our best friends, since I was 23 years old, They
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: live right down the street. Our kids have basically been
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: raised all together. We're all best friends. Our kids are
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: all raised all together. We're all best friends. This is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: my girl, best friend, and our families. The husband, who
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: was also very close, when my son, who, again, we
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: live right down the street, was like three, he was
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: running around in the kitchen of their house. They were
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: having a big party. And I looked at my best
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: friend's husband and said, do you know his name?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And he goes, Who?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I go, my son. And he goes, yeah. I go,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: what is it? And he goes, Jack. It's like, no,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it's John. He's so bad with names. And he is
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: so like openly like, I don't know who all these
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: kids are in my house. I'm like, well, two of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: them are mine. And he's like, I don't know where they,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: all these kids came from in my house. So it
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: would always be like, well, that one belongs to your parents.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Best friend from college, son. I don't think so. He
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: just is so, so hilarious like that. And I think
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that's a good question to ask people. Like, okay, this
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: person has been your best friend for 10 years. What's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: their dog's name? They've had that dog for nine years.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: What's their dog's name?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: And Lisa would be drawing a lot of blanks.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Lisa would be changing topics, yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: She would be like, Meredith, did I hit all my
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: high points? Meredith, get out your piece of paper. Meredith.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I thought they handled Robert's death very well. I love
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: how Cousin Joe is now just the person that Mary's
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: going to film with. They're like, Cousin Joe is now
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the only person in your family that speaks to you.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: We had to go back and be like, who is
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: this guy?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Who is this?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And then we're like, oh, okay.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: It's not Robert Sr. He's not going to be filming.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Because did you watch the TLC doc with... Oh, yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That was all... Yeah, the hit piece on.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: That was brutal because it was just like, okay, this is...
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: She's such a complex character, right? Where it's hard... obviously
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: you're going to feel bad for anybody in that scenario.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Like that's a horrible situation to be in. No parent
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: should have to deal with the death of their child.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: So like that in and of itself is just like, okay,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: we've established that part. But also Mary has not been
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the most respectful when it comes to other people's passings.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And that's been a documented history of that. So it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: just like to get upset with the way some people
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: react to that is where it's like, I don't know.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. This is so difficult because if you
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: bring that up, yeah, it's hard.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: It's hard because if you watch the documentary and that
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: whole family that talks about seeing her flippantly talking about
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: their sister, mom, daughter that was like, I don't know,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: she rolled off her thing and she flipped the car
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and she flew out the sunroof and, oh, she's dead.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Let's make cookies. And you're like, whoa. And then to
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: have that family say, We've known her for 40 years.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And for her to talk about my child like that
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: when she knew this person, it wasn't like a stranger.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like her congregation is 60,000 people and this
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: was a stranger to her. The congregation is 30 people.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: She knew them very well. So that is interesting. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: for some people to be like, well, maybe she's happy
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to have a new storyline so people could talk about
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: her church. I'm like, I don't want to go that far.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Because her child died. God, it is very complex. But
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: as far as Bravo, they did handle it well. Now,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: when is she going to come back? And then how,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you know, we've seen her in some clips going forward.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: But as of now, we have Lisa Barlow arranging a
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: ski day and she doesn't ski.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: To be fair, it was an apres ski party. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: after skiing. Upper ski means after ski. That's what she
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: was in it for.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: She was focusing on the after skiing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: The party, the snacks, the conversation after skiing.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I like. That's what I like. We have
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: some friends who have a ski house now and they
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: were telling us all about, oh, we're up at nine
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and the lifts open at 930. You got to leave
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the house at nine. You got to ski out. You
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: got to be in all this. And I was like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I don't want to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: do any of that. And they go, that's okay. Like,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: if you come, you don't have to. They're like, you
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: could just come to Apres Ski. I go, well, what
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: time does that start? They're like, that starts like at three.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that is perfect timing for me. I can
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: sleep till noon. I could do a little shopping.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Done deal.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: And I don't have to put on those big boots.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: You could still put the boots on.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: You could get the whole.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's why Lisa did it, was she just
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: wanted to dress up.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: It was very dumb and dumber, though. Like, Jeff Daniels
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: in Dumb and Dumber, like, for where it was just
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: went out to the nines, getting all the gear, and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: then going out for it. So that part of it,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: that's the overwhelming part for me, where it's like, I
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: don't ski. I don't do the skiing stuff. Anytime people are,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: it's like, I've been in situations where there's an opportunity to,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't have. Why? any of this
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: stuff like i'm gonna spend thousands of dollars on all
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: this stuff or you have to go i guess yeah
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: yeah it was like you have to go rent stuff
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: i don't have any of this stuff i'm not or
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: if i'm traveling out of state and then it's like
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: what i'm gonna bring this on a plane with me no.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Who was afraid of the chairlift.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember oh man so that was angie
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: angie was like okay Out of control for most of
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the time when she was on the skis, she wasn't
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: in full control of her body at any point. It
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: was just kind of up to the universe at that point.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: And she's very short. She's low to the ground, so
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: she would be safe. But I also am terrified of
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a ski lift. And sometimes there are things like that,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, you can just hop on this
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: thing to go up to the mountain. I'm like, no, no.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I went skiing one time in ninth grade, and I'm
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: scarred for life from it. And the ski lift is
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: so scary because you have to do it just right.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: And if you don't, you're going on your face. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: then you have to get off just exactly right. No,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I felt that. I felt that. I felt it. Now,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: do you have thoughts on Meredith's new face? Oh, boy.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I saw her wig because she didn't dress the wig.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: So then it was like, well.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: How are we not going to talk about the wig?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: She needs to adjust the wig. It's sliding throughout her segments.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: And we did an episode of Plathville with wigs one time.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: So Carly has experienced a wig slide.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: You were in a wig?
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we dressed up as Ethan and Mariah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I had to do my Ethan Plath voice. I had
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: to get my Ethan Plath wig.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I need to see that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Some setups, yeah. We'll send you some clips. It's horrifying.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: We'll send you some clips.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: What about you were Mariah, but which Mariah were you?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Was there several?
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: The dark-haired Mariah.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: The long black, the Morticia?
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Montana Mariah, I guess, if that's the action figure
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: line that we would be.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Putting that box on it. So pretty recent Mariah.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the last season.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Yeah, more recent. I didn't know if you
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: were because where we are in our rewatch, we're in
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: season five where she's like super white blonde, but she's
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: dressing in all black and she's starting with the tattoos.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she looks great. Rebel stuff.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Rebel.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Rebel. Black heart.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Black heart. Rebel. But now that she's been baptized, she's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: just rebelling against the devil.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Different. Yes. Yeah. You take that energy and you direct
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: it at the bad guy and then you're good. Then
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: you're good.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: And then maybe you allegedly develop a drug problem and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: have to move to Montana.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Inpatient, allegedly.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Inpatient procedures, maybe some sort of facility that we can't
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: have people come visit because there's too many visitors to
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: check in and out, those types of things. We'll just
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: go to a cabin instead. Allegedly. That sort of stuff.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know, but that seems possible. Well,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the wig. So I did love, I know you just
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: said you don't like Whitney, but I did love when
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, I think Meredith Newfest looks great in
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the wig too. And I go, she didn't mention the wig.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And she's like, uh-oh, uh-oh.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny because it needed to be said.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: It needed to be addressed. Yeah, it was amazing.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: It was bad. It's like the combination of the wig
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: and the face are scary together.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I don't get how, the side-by-side where I was like,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: She looked better last season.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think now, like somebody said, now she just
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: looks like the filter that she uses. Yes. Yeah. Sun's off.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's okay to age. That's okay, Meredith.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: It's okay to do that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Well, say it to the person who just had their
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: face burned off yesterday.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Are you here to compete with Meredith's facelift?
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going toe to toe. I'm going toe to toe. Well,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: do you think Lisa Barlow is being bullied this season?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think she will be this season because she
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: got invited to be on Ultimate Girls Trip.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: That's why they're bullying her because they're mad, right?
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I think that they've realized that they need to hitch
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: their start to Lisa Barlow because clearly Bravo has decided
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: that she is like a cornerstone of this cast. If
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: they're going to put her on spinoffs. So I would
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: imagine that there are some people who weren't friendly with
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Lisa Barlow before who perhaps will have a change in
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: attitude this season.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the other part. It's like the issues in
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the marriage with John that they set up for us
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: at the end of last season and how they immediately
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: went back on that where they were like, no, actually,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: we're good. We talked about it off camera and we're
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: totally fine. I think that was because there were so
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: many other, they can't have three sets of people having
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: marital issues as storyline on the show because Whitney and
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Angie are actually going to get divorced this season. So
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I don't. And Bronwyn.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And Bronwyn.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: And Bronwyn.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: So it was like, okay, so then that would be
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: four if you're throwing in Lisa having marital issues too.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: So I think they were like, we're not going to
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: be doing that much in the same vein here. So like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: let's shift it around a little bit for what the
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: storylines are going to be.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say that I did appreciate the Lisa
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Barlow and John Barlow. I appreciated them sort of speaking
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: and working it out as like a married couple actually
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: might do it instead of being like, oh, hell yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you gave me an out. And I'm so glad to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: divorce you on the show, which is what we see
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: a lot. So I was glad that she's like, we
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: sat down. He apologized for saying this. I apologize for that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: And we worked it out. And I, you know, whether
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: it's fake or not, I like when you see on
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: your TV, like, okay, they didn't just come on the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: show to get divorced. They're actually going to try to
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: work it out. Like a real married couple has to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: like talk things out. You know?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: It's, I mean, it seems like she came on the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: show to get divorced, right? Like that was kind of.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: It was kind of.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: She was so happy to get that casting call. She
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was like, this is what I've been hoping for. And
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you're going to see how horrible my mother is on camera, everybody.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: What a turnaround Muzzy's had this season, too.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Muzzy read the comments.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I think so. She's being a little bit more careful
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: when she sees that red light on. Yeah, she's like, oh, okay.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: You okay? She's I'll come sit next to you.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want me to touch you? Bronwyn's like,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: last season you called me a whore on camera and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: said that you wished I would have put my child
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: up for foster care. So probably don't sit by me, Muzzy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: She's like, do you want a Dr.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Pepper?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: You good?
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: You good? You good?
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: You going to take me to live in the new house?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Is there a mother-in-law wing? I'm dying to see the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: scene that they've sort of teased between Bronwyn and Todd.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Eating together.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. How did they get Todd to agree to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Why would he? Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: He has despised filming up until this point. I can't
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: believe he would agree to come back and film a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: scene with her.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: With the divorce happening.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Kind of wild.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I bet it's a, hey, look, Todd, if you can
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: come and film one scene, I'll ask for $ 50, 000 less
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: in that settlement.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: He got something out of it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Instead of 50%, I'll take 40% of all your money.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I will give you.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Your Starbucks mugs back.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: She's holding them hostage.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I'll make sure that they get bubble wrapped and that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: they're shipped appropriately.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: There's this rare one from North Korea that you've been
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: dying to get. I can get it, but you're going
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: to have to film with me one time. One time. Well, listen,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: as always, I love talking to you guys. You're so funny.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I had sort of a epiphany
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: about y'all in this episode when I realized that all
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: of these things you cover are actually all kind of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: all go back to extreme religion or polygamy.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: They're very intertwined.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. Yeah. Common threads.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: And I always love talking to people that are as
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: into Plathville as I am.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to find out when it's coming back.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: You think the summer or maybe earlier than that?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Spring, maybe? They've done earlier. Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I think because they were caught filming Zack and Lydia
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: in Colorado, I think probably spring.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Right? Because it's a quick turnaround, but they are filming
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: in a lot of locations now, not just.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: On the farm.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Whenever we watch it, Keisha will say, does it ever
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: get better with so-and-so? I'm like, oh, no, it gets
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: so much worse. She's like, what? And then this last episode,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: they were going to Minnesota and they're like, we just
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: know that everything's going to be great for us in Minnesota.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: And she goes, Mary Payne, are things great for them
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota? I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, real bad.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Things get terrible in Minnesota. More and more, more abuse.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: These people only get.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Worse and more emboldened as time goes on. Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. And she's also just, she can't believe the change
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: that the rapid change that we're seeing in Kim, you know,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: she's like to her squirts, to her squirts, to her,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to her leopard print. Everything she wears is four sizes
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: too small. No matter what size she is. She always
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: thinks like, if I wear a large, I should put
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: on a medium. If I wear an extra large, I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: should wear a large. She never understands the, she does.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys saw, but I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: did do a recreation of her get ready with me makeup.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: That was amazing.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Her makeup tutorial.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I feel like I should do it again
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: because I didn't do it justice. I didn't have the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: amount of like, eyeshadow to put under my eyes in
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the right colors and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a business expense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I should get a new iPhone. I'm like, I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: had to up my game. But you know, God bless.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: She's out there doing things for people that they asked for,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: which is how do you do your makeup? It's so incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Between that and the recipes too, because she had
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: her cauliflower crust for her pizzas, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was chicken.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: She made a pizza crust made out of chicken.
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  Speaker 1: Stop it right now.
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  Speaker 3: You have to go look it up.
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  Speaker 2: It looked like a cauliflower crust.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It was rough.
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  Speaker 3: She was making some very unique recipes.
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  Speaker 2: She was trying to say that these were her recipes.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, from what we saw on the show.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: It was most of your children cooking the meals. She
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: never cooked a.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Thing in her life. She just sat back and yelled orders. Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was mostly her just sneaking Diet Cokes in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: the pantry. Pulling tickets. Yeah. Pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. No, I don't want to see a crust made
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  Speaker 1: out of chicken. That's... Disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: Very high in protein. It's supposed to help her with
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: her diet. So get back into those squirts.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe she blended it up in the juicer.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Stop. Remember the Love is Blind guy did that. He
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: was like, this is how I start every morning. And
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: he ground up chicken to liquid and then drank it.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Disgusting. Don't do that. There's better ways to do that, right?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: There's like protein drink.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just drink bone broth.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bone broth. Something else.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Just eat some chicken.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing? Why do we need
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: to puree it?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. We went way, way, way, way, way, way
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: off there. So tell everybody where they can find you,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: what you're covering right now, what's coming up. Tell everybody
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: all the things about Corey and Carly.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: So we have two podcasts. The first is Surviving Sister Wives.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: You can find that anywhere you get podcasts. And we're
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: about to cover the new season, season 21 of Sister Wives.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: There's also some old rewatch episodes on there. We've been
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: going through and.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Fan favorites. Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Revisiting fan favorite episodes leading up to season 21. And
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: then our other podcast is surviving reality. And we're covering
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: real housewives of Salt Lake city and the traders right now.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: On a weekly basis there. So yeah, again, everywhere you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: get podcasts. So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Cause I'm loving the traders coverage. I, uh, I just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: love it. I'm so glad. I love, I love talking
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: to y'all because we just have so many other than
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: sister wives of which I can still talk about it,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: even though I've never, I've really never seen one full episode.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You're lucky. Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And I still know everything going on because it's so fun.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: It has its moments. They're trying, they're keeping it together here.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: Trying to revive it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Ramping it up.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, and what about the social media? Is it surviving reality?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Surviving reality on Instagram. And then we're on TikTok
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: and YouTube.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: You can find all our links to beacons.ai slash surviving pod.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: What on earth did you just say? Say that again.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Say it again.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: All of our links that you can find is beacons.ai
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: slash surviving pod.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Is the website.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: It's in our episode descriptions too.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: So it's like a collection.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Love you guys. Thanks for chatting.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: You can.