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Wednesday October 21 2026 | Campaign Ad Deep Dive — What's the Most Useful Tone? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: I thank the Mike Gallagher Show for giving me my
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  Speaker 2: first opportunity. It's been a busy day. I just moments
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  Speaker 2: ago saw the Minnesota Secretary of State guy, Tad Jude.
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  Speaker 2: I saw every bit of his ad there. It is
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  Speaker 2: a masterpiece. I love Rachel Campos Duffy, but what the
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  Speaker 2: heck is going on with her and her savaging of it?
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  Speaker 2: You want to lay it out for people? You want
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  Speaker 2: to start there with the tone of campaign ads? Because
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  Speaker 2: different states require a different vibe.
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  Speaker 3: That's my thought. What about you?
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  Speaker 4: And it's a welcome respite from all of the drama
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  Speaker 4: and angst and hysteria over the Vivek Ramaswamy ad in Ohio. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because everybody knows by now what's going on there. Amy Acton,
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  Speaker 4: Vivek Ramaswamy, the Republican up against Amy. Amy Acton of Democrat, Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Amy Acton, although she's one of those doctors the way
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  Speaker 4: they all are, like Abdul El-Sayed. They're all doctors. None
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  Speaker 4: of them practice. But I'll bet you they include doctor
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  Speaker 4: on their dinner reservation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
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  Speaker 4: And on their email auto signature. Anyway, they're in this tight,
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  Speaker 4: ugly race. She's got a rough family history. She's got
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  Speaker 4: a difficult childhood story. A lot of there's accusations about
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  Speaker 4: drunk driving and she's throwing things against the wall. And
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  Speaker 4: then there's an accusation that when she was 12, she
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  Speaker 4: was raped by her stepfather. Just a lot of ugly,
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  Speaker 4: awful stuff. Anyway, along comes this ad from the most
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  Speaker 4: unlikeliest of candidates, the secretary of state candidate in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: He's the Republican, Tad Jude. Let's play the ad and
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  Speaker 4: let's get your reaction to it because I want everybody
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  Speaker 4: on the podcast And I'm in, gosh, I'm in a great,
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  Speaker 4: I hope you're in a good mood today.
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 4: You feeling good?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And part of it is the discovery of, in some
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  Speaker 2: ads and in some races, you got to go in
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  Speaker 2: with guns blazing. You got to call a spade a spade.
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  Speaker 2: You got to take no prisoners. Go in with a
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  Speaker 2: scalpel and a sledgehammer. In other places, maybe, can we
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  Speaker 2: maybe have some messaging to make people feel good, optimistic,
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  Speaker 2: and upbeat? And this one does that. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: more than room for both of those approaches.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what I'm feeling great about is you
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  Speaker 4: know how we– I asked you a while ago, do
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  Speaker 4: you ever walk out of the studio and just say,
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  Speaker 4: that was a great show today. I had a good show.
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  Speaker 4: I would see Rush Limbaugh when I worked at WABC,
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  Speaker 4: and I'd see him go down the hall after his
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  Speaker 4: show at 3 o'clock. And I'd say, how'd the show go, Rush?
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  Speaker 4: He'd say, I was off today. And I thought– I
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  Speaker 4: just heard a three-hour masterpiece.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 4: What you're talking about. You do have an off day.
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  Speaker 4: But today was one of those days. Everything came together.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. The stars all aligned.
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  Speaker 4: We ran the Tad Jude ad. I say on air,
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to get Tad Jude just to interview the guy.
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  Speaker 4: And within seconds. Ten minutes, we had him on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Tremendous.
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  Speaker 4: Because as I'm hearing the ad, I'm thinking, tell me
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  Speaker 4: this voice is the candidate's voice. Because it's one of
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  Speaker 4: those character voices that make you think that it's a
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood voiceover.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like one of those really, you know, in here,
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  Speaker 2: in the hinterlands of Minnesota, we know what it feels
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  Speaker 2: like after the first snow. It's like a professional Hollywood voiceover.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the dude. It's the guy. It's the actual candidate.
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  Speaker 4: And the ad just inspired me. Here it is. I
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  Speaker 4: give you Tad Jude, the Republican candidate for secretary of
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  Speaker 4: state in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: Minnesota. We're still here. We never left. We're still in
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  Speaker 5: the diners that open at five in the morning. Still
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  Speaker 5: in the churches that have stood since past generations built them.
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  Speaker 5: Still on the docks. Still in the fields. Still in
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  Speaker 5: our favorite biking and walking paths. Still in the factories.
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  Speaker 5: Still in our police precincts. Still in the courtrooms. Still
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  Speaker 5: on the ice. Still in the iron in the ground
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  Speaker 5: that built this country. We know what you are. Minnesota,
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  Speaker 5: we know the way the light comes across a frozen
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  Speaker 5: lake in January, or the way the sunlight glistens a
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  Speaker 5: certain golden light through the leaves of autumn. We know
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  Speaker 5: what it sounds like when the ice shifts in the night.
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  Speaker 5: We know the smell of a pine forest after the
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  Speaker 5: first snow. We know you. This is what we're still
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  Speaker 5: here for. But something changed here. And most of us
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  Speaker 5: felt it, not as Republicans or Democrats, but as Minnesotans.
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  Speaker 5: Like something that belonged to us was decided for us.
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  Speaker 5: Like we came home one day and the house had
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  Speaker 5: been rearranged while we were gone. These lakes are still ours.
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  Speaker 5: These schools are still ours. These streets... the ones our
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  Speaker 5: children walk home on, the one our parents drove before us,
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  Speaker 5: still ours. But when the people trusted to protect all
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  Speaker 5: of this, to keep the records on us, to keep
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  Speaker 5: the process clean, to keep the decision in our hands,
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  Speaker 5: when they stopped answering to us, you felt it, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: We all did. We are the land of 10,000 lakes,
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  Speaker 5: the bold north, the North Star State, home to people
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  Speaker 5: who have never once confused endurance with surrender, who have
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  Speaker 5: weathered every winter this place has thrown at them and
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  Speaker 5: come back to the ice the following year, despite how
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  Speaker 5: much we've been taken advantage of, without even a say.
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  Speaker 5: My name is Ted Jude, and I'm running for Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: Secretary of State because this office belongs to you. The
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  Speaker 5: state belongs to you.
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  Speaker 3: We never left.
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  Speaker 5: It's time to come home.
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  Speaker 4: Bring it back. Our money, our elections, our flag. Now,
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  Speaker 4: so I and I just thought this is the way
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  Speaker 4: you kind of used to be. Maybe that's part of
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  Speaker 4: the problem. Because Minnesota nice, some would say, ain't cutting
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  Speaker 4: it these days with these radical Democrats.
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  Speaker 3: I understand.
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  Speaker 2: I know that everybody wants to be in fighting mode 24-7,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not as though he doesn't point out, because
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  Speaker 2: I think at one point when he's sort of wistfully
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  Speaker 2: looking at these clippings, one of them I think was
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  Speaker 2: about fraud of some sort. One of them was about
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  Speaker 2: people refusing to fly the Minnesota state flag.
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  Speaker 3: So he kind of.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no. It's not about refusing to fly it.
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  Speaker 4: And that's and I want to tell you about the
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  Speaker 4: flag issue. I'll bet you weren't. And I want to.
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  Speaker 3: Please do.
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  Speaker 2: But to my point, he does indeed in a very wistful,
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  Speaker 2: cinematic way. He does indeed put in people's faces in
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  Speaker 2: this ad that things are going wrong in our state.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm the kind of bedrock guy to bring it back.
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  Speaker 2: But what was the flag story?
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  Speaker 4: Including including the flag issue. And he, you know, Minnesotans
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  Speaker 4: know exactly what he's talking about in that ad about
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  Speaker 4: the flag. The current secretary of state, a radical leftist Democrat,
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  Speaker 4: was behind the redesign of the state flag of Minnesota
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  Speaker 4: so that it now resembles the Somalian flag. It's a
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  Speaker 4: flag that resembles the Somali flag.
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  Speaker 3: Hold it. Did they succeed?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, by one vote. They did. And that's, I think,
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  Speaker 4: largely why this guy's running. He's saying if your current
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  Speaker 4: secretary of state wants to redesign the Minnesota state flag
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  Speaker 4: to make it look to resemble more of the Somalian flag,
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  Speaker 4: look it up. I see.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. I'm kind of a state flag dork. I
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  Speaker 2: think I know what a lot of them look like.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't really have a focus on Minnesotas. Put
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  Speaker 2: your mic closer, Mike. You're going off mic there, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: It's dark blue, then light blue. There's a little crescent
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  Speaker 2: and a little star. Not a crescent, but a crescent.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And it resembles the Somalian flag. And this is what
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  Speaker 4: he means about everything is being changed by people coming
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  Speaker 4: in from other states, other countries.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, get out.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, that is the Somali flag. I mean, what?
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  Speaker 6: See?
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  Speaker 4: That's what he's talking about, Mark. That's his message. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Somali flag is blue with a white star. The Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: flag has some dark blue, some light blue and a
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  Speaker 2: multi-pointed star. Okay, you keep talking while I find the
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  Speaker 2: previous Minnesota flag and see what they changed.
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  Speaker 4: I can just tell you, they changed the flag to
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  Speaker 4: make it more familiar to Somalis. That's the point. It
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  Speaker 4: was designed in a way, and I remember watching when
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  Speaker 4: it unfolded in real time. And I interviewed Tad Jude recently.
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  Speaker 4: on my show. If you missed it, you can go
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  Speaker 4: to mikeonline.com and catch the interview. We'll have it posted
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  Speaker 4: later today. But that's what he was saying. He was saying, look,
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  Speaker 4: when they kind of voted this in the back rooms
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  Speaker 4: of the halls of power of Minnesota, and it came
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  Speaker 4: out of committee, and it won by one vote, He
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  Speaker 4: said they changed their flag.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's the old one. And the old one is
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  Speaker 2: just a blue flag with like a patch, a circle
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. And if it says Minnesota and has
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  Speaker 2: a picture of lakes and stuff and just looks kind
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  Speaker 2: of like what a state flag ordinarily looks like. And
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  Speaker 2: they darned if they didn't hijack it. I was looking
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  Speaker 2: at the Wikipedia page. Conservative critics said that the flag
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  Speaker 2: was made to look to resemble the Somali flag. And
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  Speaker 2: defenders said that was purely coincidental.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Coincidental. Holy cow. It just happened to look
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  Speaker 4: a little bit like Somalia. So anyway, so this guy does,
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  Speaker 4: he comes forward with this great message, positive, uplifting, but
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  Speaker 4: yet pointed, because he's making a point. You're changing our state,
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  Speaker 4: and we're here. We've been here. We're going to be here.
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  Speaker 4: So I loved it. I just thought, and everybody wants
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  Speaker 4: a copy of that ad. If you want that spot,
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  Speaker 4: if you text Minnesota, To my MyPillow text line, which
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  Speaker 4: is 800-655-MIKE, we'll send you back the video of that
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  Speaker 4: brilliant ad from Tad Jude, who's running for Secretary of State.
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  Speaker 4: So Rachel Campos Duffy weighs in. She's one of the
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  Speaker 4: Fox & Friends co-hosts.
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  Speaker 3: On the weekend. And I like her. She's a neat lady.
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  Speaker 4: I like Rachel a lot. She's like a nice lady.
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  Speaker 4: She's the Transportation Secretary's wife, right?
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  Speaker 3: Sean Duffy, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what she wrote. This Minnesota campaign ad is quintessential Minnesota,
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  Speaker 4: afraid to name the problem and speak truth clearly. Instead,
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  Speaker 4: it's couched in nostalgia, leaves, hockey, a folksy voiceover. I
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  Speaker 4: love that part, a folksy voiceover. She probably doesn't even
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  Speaker 4: realize it's him. It's the candidate, Rachel. She thinks it's
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  Speaker 4: some Hollywood actor. Precisely why Minnesota is in this mess,
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  Speaker 4: she said. Oh, that's different, they say, as unassimilated Somalis
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  Speaker 4: rob them blind and BLM burns their cities.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: And then she concludes. She's not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: She's not wrong, but she's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: She is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Right. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 4: And then she concludes by saying, that said, Tad Jude
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  Speaker 4: does seem like an authentically Minnesota nice guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what he's trying to be. Authentic and nice.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and I know.
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  Speaker 4: Bingo.
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  Speaker 3: Two things can be true at the same time. Rachel's instincts.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, what would have made her happy?
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  Speaker 2: I'm Ted Jude. These Somali bastards are coming for our children.
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  Speaker 3: Hell no.
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  Speaker 4: Get your guns.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Ted Jude and I approve this message. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's exhausting. It's exhausting.
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  Speaker 4: She would have loved it. But you said something that's
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  Speaker 4: so powerful, Mark. He's authentic and he's nice. And I
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  Speaker 4: think Americans yearn for this again. I hope we can
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  Speaker 4: get it back. Sometimes I wonder if there's any common
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  Speaker 4: ground with people who embrace communism and political violence and
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  Speaker 4: open borders. But but if we can just win at
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  Speaker 4: the ballot box, maybe they'll pipe down.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a lot of ways to win and being
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  Speaker 2: aggressive and going out is one of them.
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  Speaker 3: And that might be another.
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  Speaker 2: There is another about two or three minute ad in
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  Speaker 2: which a candidate sort of puts aside the nuts and
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  Speaker 2: bolts and the sharp edges of the issues and paints
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  Speaker 2: with pastels and gauze. And the people who love that
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  Speaker 2: candidate love the ad. No, I'm talking about it all. No,
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  Speaker 2: that would be James Tallarico. So he puts out this thing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is an interesting Rorschach test.
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  Speaker 3: We love Ted Jude.
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  Speaker 2: He's a Republican and we love his ad and we
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  Speaker 2: view it as a masterstroke of trying to sort of
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  Speaker 2: go above the issues and just make people feel good
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  Speaker 2: about him and about the state and the way in
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  Speaker 2: which people are trying to change the state. The Tallarico
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  Speaker 2: ad struck me as a complete disaster. PSYOP to distract
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  Speaker 2: everybody from what a radical monster he is.
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  Speaker 3: But of course, that's me.
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  Speaker 2: That's my eyes. That's my take. Democrats are looking at
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  Speaker 2: this ad and just just oozing over.
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  Speaker 3: Just the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's them. I guess it's the counterpart to that.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say is that Tad
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  Speaker 2: Jude in Minnesota is standing for things that are right,
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  Speaker 2: and Tallarico is standing for things that are horrifically wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But again, that's just me too. That's the way we
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  Speaker 2: see it. That's the way we agree. It's an interesting
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  Speaker 2: season for campaign ads.
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• 17:12
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• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And that's what happened to me is because I did
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  Speaker 2: And when it did, I thought, well, OK, I am
• 17:25
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• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, there's that little achiness. when you
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• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, the Vivek Ramaswamy commercial, the campaign ad, really, really
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: hit the fan yesterday. It was all over the place.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: And they're doubling down. Vivek said, yeah, it's our ad.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: The mother wanted to tell the world that her daughter
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: is a liar and can't be trusted and has some
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: mental health problems. And, you know, who are we to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: get in her way? She wants to tell the story.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I want to share with you, Mark, Megyn Kelly's breakdown
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: of this all because she appeared on the Ruthless podcast yesterday.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: And let's bring in some of our fellow podcasters into
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: our conversation today at M & M Extra. The Ruthless
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: podcast has become a real popular podcast. Megan, of course,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: has a popular podcast. So she appeared with the Ruthless guys.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And let's play this because it's a pretty, I don't know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: edgy way of analyzing this battle between Amy Acton and
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: This does not seem like a stable person to me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: In August of 2019, police in Bexley, Ohio, responded to
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: a report of a domestic dispute at her home. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: she pulled a mirror off of a wall, shattering the
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: glass when she became upset. Those are in quotes because
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: she felt her husband, quote, was antagonizing her, according to
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: a police report. She told officers she had been drinking.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: She had taken an unknown amount of.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: Prescription drugs and was about to drive away in her
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: car before her husband, who also told police he'd been drinking,
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: talked her out of it. She says she's a doctor,
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: but she never actually treated patients. So she seems to
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: be the kind of doctor that El-Sayed is. She couldn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: make it through the COVID pandemic. She resigned during the
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: middle of that pandemic. apparently like unable to handle the
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: stress of it, though she claimed she objected to the way.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: He was handling it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: What I've seen is a woman who will not allow
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: cameras at any of her campaign events. What candidate doesn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: allow cameras at your campaign event? A woman who has
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: refused steadily to debate himself.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Him?
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: My name is Donna Arthur and I'm Amy Acton's mother.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: about her opponent, it's not easy for a mother to
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: say this, but Amy has a serious problem. She is
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: a liar. She lies about her past. She's lied her
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: entire life. My daughter needs help. If you think she'll
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: make your life better, you're fooling yourself.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: It will only get worse. But two things.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Number one, this is not the first time that this
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: has happened. Her mother came forward and made these same comments.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: The mother came out back then to say, don't believe her. Okay,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: so this is not the first time the mother has
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: tried to make a thing out of the daughter's alleged
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: sketchy history. Listen to this via Ohio News. Police responded
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: to the Bexley home of Democrat gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: According to a police report, the daughter apparently did not
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: like this. This is in quotes from the police report.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Thought her parents were going to get into some type
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: of altercation, end quote. So here you have what looks
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: to me like an unstable person. Amy Acton claimed that
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: some very dangerous man confronted her at a campaign event.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: All right, here's the incident in which her life was
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: potentially in danger.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: For the listening audience, he's nowhere near her. This person
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: wants to be governor, not once, but twice. Now she
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: has the fake felony at her campaign event, which is
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: not real. There's this, the lies and hysteria around COVID.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Watch.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: This is a war on a silent enemy. I don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: want you to be afraid. I am not afraid. All
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: of us are going to have to sacrifice. You're heroic
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: when you stay at home. And watch your neighbor who's
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: a nurse's child. Everyone is being heroic right now. So
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: she doesn't sound like someone who takes an unknown amount
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: of prescription medication and drinks. Right.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: This is September of 2025.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Watch.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Well, you were the first to shut down the schools, right?
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Well, we were the very first to take action following
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: George W. Bush's pandemic playbook, the one that had gone
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: from president to president. Because pandemic, not only did we
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: lose more people than all wars combined, it's actually a
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: grave security risk. As you know, the economy completely crashed
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: before a single order was written. But in those early days,
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: the mortality rate was 50%.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah. 50%.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: That's a lie.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lie, all right. There was never a 50%. Now, Mark,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: this is hard because I don't want to get personal
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: in a time when I'm celebrating Tad Jude's Morning in
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: America ad.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, exactly.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: But does that woman not sound like a kook to
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you every time she talks? Doesn't it sound like something's off?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: She absolutely does. And every once in a while, you'll
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: have candidates who will do this And there'll be something
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: they'll have on the plus side. There'll be some redeeming
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: attribute that they have that where people will take a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: look at that and go, well, maybe she's quirky, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I really like her policies or I really like her
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: resume or I really like something else. I don't know
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: what there is to like here. I don't know what
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: there is to like very much about Annie Andrews in
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: South Carolina. I just I mean, I don't know. I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: just it's stories like these and snapshots like these and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: clips like these. that make me think that there are
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: a couple of reasons why 13 Days From Now could.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Go well for us.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: One is the power of our positive message, and the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: other is how absolutely flawed so many of these candidates
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: are on the other side.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, but let's look at the pushback that Republicans and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: conservatives gave Vivek Ramaswamy. There's a backstory here, because there's
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: a lot of drama surrounding the Vivek candidacy. They claim
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: he's a Tucker creation. So if you don't like Tucker Carlson,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: you're not going to like Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Well, what does that even mean?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Well, Dana Lash, I saw her go on about this
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: on social media yesterday. She said, make no mistake. Vivek
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Ramaswamy is the creation of Tucker Carlson. And so Dana
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: goes on to blast Vivek for this ad. Well, is
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: that helpful? I mean, I like Dana too. The primaries
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: are over.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Ohio needs a Republican governor. What are you doing?
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Let me finish. Jason Rance, who's normally a reliable conservative
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: out of Seattle, he's now saying this ad proves that
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Vivek is not fit to serve. What the hell are
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: you talking about? One ugly ad. And I admit it's ugly.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: The whole story is ugly. The family history is ugly.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: One ad makes Vivek. So you think this woman is
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: fit to serve? Exactly.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: So an ad you don't like means that Ohio needs
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to have this crazy person as governor. That is just.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Completely unhinged logic. These irrelevancies, these sideshows. that people are
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: obsessing over are toxic.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Well, would you ever think that Jason Rance or Dana
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Lash would use unhinged logic? And then finally, here's the
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: coup de grace. This will shock you. I know you
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: didn't see this one coming. The National Review condemned Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: They went from the never Trump issue of the 2016
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: campaign to now, I guess they're on board with this lady.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: So I guess I'm asking you what you just said,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and I got to reiterate it. That's not helpful. Do
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: you want the Democrats to win or not? And I
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: guess they do. I guess they do.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Here in Texas, we talk about the Cornyn factor who
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: definitely wants Paxton to lose so that he can say,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I told you so. But I don't know what the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I told you so is for talk show personalities who
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: suddenly seem to be in the tank for helping a
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Democrat beat Vivek Ramaswamy. And as far as the whole
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Tucker creation, did Tucker probably have him on the show
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: a dozen times back when Tucker was sane and had
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a show?
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And I know that Tucker is in orbit around Neptune now,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't hold that against him personally. from five
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: or six years ago, and I think Vivek is pretty awesome.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think he made a pretty decent presidential candidate, never
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: had any chance, but I pretty well like him. Every
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: time he's on, I kind of look at him and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I nod and I go, dude makes.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: A lot of sense.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I like Vivek.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: All right. I want to end. I've had a little
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: couple of blood pressure issues going on. They gave me
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: blood pressure medicine as part of my sort of heart
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: disease thing I'm dealing with, and it's too low. Which
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I thought, that ain't good. Well, my doctor's friend went faint.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: 30 over 10. Well, last night it was 90 over 70.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And it's supposed to be like 115.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: 120 over 80. Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Is that the perfect blood pressure?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I think so. 120 over 80 is, you know, kind
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: of the... I think it changed everything and everything I.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Know is wrong.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: So with this new blood pressure medicine they're giving me,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: because mine was slightly higher. It was 130, 135. So
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: now it's like stays at about 104, 105. And he
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: wants it to get... Anyway... I've got a natural way
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: to raise my blood pressure. I'm going to play a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: clip because we missed it yesterday. And I love going
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: a little blue on the podcast. I want to play
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: this bastard Tom Tillis. Oh, gotcha. He is a bastard.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: But look, there's nothing dastardly about saving lives the pre-born way.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: And I was just talking to Michelle Portner from our
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Salem team this morning. She said, you guys... Your podcast
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: audience donated over $ 30, 000 to get a couple of ultrasound machines. Yes,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: they did. This summer marks three years since the Dobbs
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: decision overturning Roe v.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Wade.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: But the grim reality is that the total number of
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: abortions every year has only increased. That's why Preborn has
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  Speaker 4: come up with a brilliant way to save lives. They're
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  Speaker 4: giving free ultrasounds to girls and women. When a young
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: woman sees her baby and hears her baby's heartbeat, it
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: doubles the chance that she'll choose life. Mark, just $ 28
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  Speaker 4: a month will help save a baby a month. Less
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  Speaker 4: than a dollar a day.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: These are the kinds of things that people can do
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: in their daily lives to just go. Obviously, there are
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of charities that want a lot of things
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: from you. And we'll certainly tell you about some when
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: they mean something to us. And this one means something
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to us because if you say you're pro-life, speaking those
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: things and walking that walk and talking that talk are
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: all important. But with with what are it's biblical that
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: are whether where our fortune goes is where our heart goes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So if you've got one hundred and forty dollars, you
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: can help give five mothers a free ultrasound and save babies.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Two hundred eighty ten babies. As Mike just said, twenty
• 28:46
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  Speaker 2: month for less than a dollar a day. And of course,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: if you do happen to have 15 grand, that's an
• 28:52
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• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Two of those. So we're just so very, very grateful.
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  Speaker 4: I leave you with retiring Republican Senator Tom Tillis from
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: North Carolina. This is my natural blood pressure increaser. When
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: your blood pressure is low, play this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: When the bulls * * t.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Becomes policy that's problematic, you get this November, this thing
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen 20 days from now, which I
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: have on my countdown clock as whoop-ass.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Who's it? I got to say that. Well, because, I mean, again,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: it's right there.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: There you go. Whoop-ass on the calendar. Yeah, 20 days whoop-ass.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've got to be realistic about it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, what a bastard. Bragging about it. Bragging about it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to see Republicans. And if everybody wondering why
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: a Republican would wish Republicans ill is because it's a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: different kind of Republicans in the Trump era, the MAGA era,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the emboldened, empowered, more muscular conservatism. These old weasels can't
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: stand that the party has left them behind. And that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: their sour grapes.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: That's all it is. And no sour grapes for us.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: We're having a great Wednesday. Hope you are, too. We're
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: going to do a– I want to do a Christmas holiday–
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: we had a lot of views for.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: The– Everybody loved the Halloween Thanksgiving edition.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And you hit me with this this morning as I thought, okay,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: because I thought we would do– we did Halloween because
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: it's October already and Thanksgiving's next month.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I thought we'd knock out Christmas. Maybe you're on Thanksgiving.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: You're ready to do Christmas right now. And if you're ready,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: doggone it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm ready.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Cause we need a little Christmas right this very moment.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: All right. See you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us. Have
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: a great Wednesday, everybody. Glad you tuned in.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Love you.