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JOE BURROW out 3 months after getting toe surgery: Are the BENGALS in trouble? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  www.worldwidesportsradio.com. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's
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  been a crazy weekend. And for New York sports, not a
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  very good one, as we all know. If you're a Jets fan, what a
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  blowout. And if you're a giant fan, Oh my
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  God, you should be depressed. But we will get into that in
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  just a few moments. I had the opportunity this past
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  weekend to go and see a very famous comedian and I went to
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  the one and only Mohegan Sun. I got a chance to experience
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  Sebastian Maniscalco comedy show.
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  It's something if you never had a chance to see him live, it's
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  something you definitely got to check out.
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  I am not a Sebastian fan, I'm not, but getting a chance to see
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  him and how he controls the stage.
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  I've never seen anything like it.
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  A guy that just goes on a stage, he dances around the stage, uses
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  his his body expressions to express himself.
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  I, I know I've been to so many comedy shows.
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  I've never seen a comedy show like quite like this one.
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  I I've seen Jerry Seinfeld. I've seen so many different
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  comedians over the years. I've seen Chris Rock, I've seen
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  a Dane Cook comedy show, but Sebastian is, is a different
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  beast. I was, it was very unique, very
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  different. But I will say this, there was a
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  lot of crazy things happen that happened when I went to the to
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  the event on Friday before. First of all, we took a ferry
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  over there to Connecticut and we got there early.
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  So we, we didn't go to Mohegan Sun first.
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  We went to Foxwoods and I, we wanted to go shopping and I'm a
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  shopper. Anybody that knows me, I like to
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  shop for hats and sneakers and all the different stuff that I
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  like to check out. So we went, we had the
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  experience to go to Foxwoods, but a lot of crazy things
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  happened with Brittany. And I don't want to say this,
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  anybody that knows Brittany Davida would know that you want
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  to make sure that she has her keys, she has her phone, and she
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  has her wallet at all times. Because for some reason, for
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  some reason, if you're not taking care of those particular
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  things, they disappear. And what happened is she was
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  jumping from 1. I had a conversation with this
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  place. There was a store, a storefront
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  that does a lot of live broadcast and gaming at their
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  facility. So I was speaking to the guys
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  because maybe we can do a live show over there at Foxwoods.
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  And they were very intrigued and very interested in our product.
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  So while I was speaking to them, Brittany decides to wander off.
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  And when Brittany wanders off, she does stupid things.
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  So she wandered off, she went to the Nike outlet, she went to
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  Express, she went to all these different outlets.
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  She comes back and I, we're about to go back to the car
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  because we're, we're about to head to Mohican Sun maybe 2
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  hours later. And I say, where's your keys?
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  And she says it's in my, it's my bag.
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  So I say go look in your bag and make sure you have your keys.
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  Well, guess what, ladies and gentlemen?
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  Her keys were not in her back. OK, so then we had to backtrack
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  all through Foxwoods, everywhere.
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  We went from every bathroom she goes to, because she went to six
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  of them. And you know, in Foxwoods
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  there's a million different bathrooms.
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  So we went from bathroom to bathroom.
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  She couldn't find her keys. Then we went through the Nike
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  outlet. Then we went to Express.
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  Then we went to Francesca. What a Francesca?
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  Whatever the hell, France, whatever the hell she was in, we
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  went to every single place she was in.
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  We couldn't find her keys. I was snapping and then she was
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  telling me, well, we might have to take an Uber in the Mohican
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  Sun and we'll have to figure this out a little bit later.
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  I said, wait a second. If we leave here and we leave
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  your keys here, we're never going to find them.
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  And how we going to get home? And she says, well, I'll call,
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  I'll call somebody. I I said, who you going to call?
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  You're not going to call Ghostbusters.
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  Ghostbusters. Because your mother is across
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  the Bay. She is right now across the
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  Hudson. She's over there in Long Island,
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  we're in Connecticut, which is a probably like 4 hours away
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  driving and from boats to, you know, where she is, it probably
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  take her an hour and a half to get to the boat, to take the
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  boat all the way across to. And she know, I don't even know
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  if she has another key. So guys, I was stressed the hell
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  out. I was sweating, I was sitting
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  there, I was screaming at her and I apologize to her, but I
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  didn't know what to do. And then I'm walking up to these
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  Nike people and I'm going to say this.
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  I'm going to be very, very nice. People are dumb.
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  I got to say this. I don't know how these people
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  have jobs and I don't get it. I did.
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  I want to give a shout out to Dirk from Nike Outlet.
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  He was very helpful. I got a chance to pick out some
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  nice sneakers. I want to show you guys these
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  sneakers. I am a sneaker collector and I
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  have to show these before before we start our show.
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  Guys, take a look at these sneakers.
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  They're sensational. Look at these sneakers.
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  They're Nike Airs, ladies and gentlemen.
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  They're beautiful, sexy as can be.
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  I got these sneakers for 50 bucks.
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  They're $180. These sneakers are $180.
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  I got them for 50 bucks at the Nike outlet.
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  So I want to thank you to Dirk. But Dirk and the ladies at the
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  Nike Outlet could not find her keys.
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  I could. I got so angry I was screaming
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  at the security guard. And here's another thing, does
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  Mohican son actually hire Americans?
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  Nobody knows how to speak English.
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  None of the security guards knew how to speak English.
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  None of the people working the bathrooms knew how to speak
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  English. I was trying to sound things
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  out. As a matter of fact, I took my
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  phone out and I was trying to speak Spanish.
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  I was trying to pronounce words in Spanish to get answers from
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  them. It was absolutely ridiculous.
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  Still couldn't find it. And finally, yes, ladies and
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  gentlemen, after going to one security area to another
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  security area, we finally she saw the key sitting there.
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  I sigh of relief. We got her keys.
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  We got to Mohegan Sun at 7:00. We couldn't eat dinner.
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  I wanted to go to Michael, Michael Jordan restaurant, steak
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  restaurant, and we couldn't have dinner.
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  So what, what, what do we have? I, I even, we have like some
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  kind of fast food place. I I forget what the place is
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  called. Is it Johnny Rockets?
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  Yeah, we went to Johnny Rockets, which the food's pretty good,
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  but it, it's like fast food. So I, I wasn't happy about it
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  and I apologize to her. I felt really, really bad.
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  But the, the concert, the comedian, he was great.
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  The, the show was great. I enjoyed it.
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  He was a lot better in person than I ever could imagine.
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  So I want to give a shout out to Mohican Son.
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  And you can see, it doesn't matter where you sat, you can
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  see everything. And he sold out pretty quick.
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  She spent $350.00 a ticket to go see this guy, Sebastian
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  Maniscalco. OK, he's great.
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  I don't know if he's worth $350.00.
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  I'm just saying. And he was great by the way.
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  He knows how to work. Was that per ticket or per
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  ticket? Per ticket.
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  Her ticket? Yeah, she, she's crazy, Jabba
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  she she'll go out and. Spend.
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  Did it? Did it?
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  Did it come with some extracurriculum?
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  No, nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing.
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  And by the way, we went to see the weekend and she spent $1200
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  a ticket to see the weekend to be right there by the stage at
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  MetLife Stadium. This is this girl's nuts.
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  She'll, she'll spend, if she likes the comedian, she likes
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  the artist, she will spend top dollar to go and see these guys.
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  So well listen, I, I'm not saying he wasn't good, he was
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  great. I just, I, I wouldn't have spent
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  350. I didn't have to spend $350.00,
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  but I had to deal with a lot of abuse.
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  And by the way, I had to drive home that night too.
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  So it took me 4 hours to drive home.
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  I fell asleep at a gas station for an hour and a half before I
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  took the ride home. It was actually pretty
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  interesting. I brought up a pillow.
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  I was trying to sleep in my chair.
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  Her her car hurt her Equinox. Equinox is one of the worst cars
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  to sleep in. I'm going to tell you this right
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  now. It is horrible to sleep in.
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  She has a 2013 Equinox. It is not one of those cars that
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  you want to sleep in or even take a nap in.
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  So just saying. And we're going to get it to the
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  Giants and Jets game over the weekend in a back and forth
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  match up in Jerrys world, the Cowboys outlasted the Giants in
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  overtime 40 to 37. The Giants now fall O and two on
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  the season despite the offense coming alive for the first time
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  in a year. Russell Wilson had 450 passing
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  yards, tied for fourth most in Giants history in a single game,
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  along with three touchdowns and one interception, good enough
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  for A123 quarterback rating. Wandel Robertson had a career
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  high 142 receiving yards and a touchdown, while Malik Neighbors
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  finally not crying, he has 167 yards and two touchdowns.
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  Where the Giants fell apart was on penalties, ladies and
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  gentlemen, with 14 in the game, including four by the left
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  tackle James Hudson on the same Dr. who eventually got benched
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  after a an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
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  Rookie Mark just bow replaced him for the remainder of the
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  game, a spot the Giants were hoping to have filled by Andrew
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  Thomas, who is still still out. Ladies and gentlemen, throughout
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  the offseason with foot surgery and foot injury, The Jets got
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  blown out. Yes, I got a chance to watch
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  this blowout and it wasn't exciting.
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  If you're a Jets fan. I was watching it during an
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  event that I was doing, a wedding that I was doing.
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  Shout out to Nick and his family, Brian.
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  It was a sensational wedding. I was emceeing 30 to 10 and
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  Justin Fields left the game in the fourth with a likely
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  concussion. Aaron Glenn did not confirm
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  Fields had a concussion, but it is feared to be one of them.
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  Fields had just 27 passing yards and 49 rushing yards before
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  getting hurt. Glenn said Fields will not play
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  in Week Three if he doesn't practice, which he did not
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  earlier today, making Tyrod Taylor the starter versus the
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  Buccaneers. Taylor finished with 83 passing
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  yards in garbage time. The Bills defense held The Jets
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  to 154 total yards and only 54 total passing yards.
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  The Jets held the ball for under 22 minutes while the Bills had
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  the ball for almost 40. The Bills controlled the game on
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  the ground with 200 and 2724 rushing yards. 132 from the one
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  and only James Cook who also had two touchdowns in the game.
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  I want to get into the Giants game because a lot of people,
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  The Jets game was really nothing to really complain about or
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  argue about because The Jets absolutely sucked.
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  The Giants put up a fight and they completely controlled the
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  game in the first half. Completely controlled the game.
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  The Cowboys could do nothing in the first half of the game.
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  Dak Prescott looked like a shell of himself.
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  And I know a lot of Jet fans would say I would take Dak
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  Prescott over any quarterback we have right now, and I would be
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  one of those guys to tell you. But the Giants showed up in the
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  first half. They absolutely did.
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  They outplayed them. Malik Neighbors, you heard, had
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  162 yards. He had two touchdowns.
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  You got a lot from the defense in the first half.
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  There was a lot of mistakes. Both teams made a significant
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  amount of mistakes. There's no question that they
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  did. But the Giants again, in big
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  parts of the game, especially the fourth quarter, where I'll
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  say this again, Brian Schottenheimer is not a good
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  coach. He's not.
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  And I don't want to hear it from any any sports fan or football
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  fan to tell me that he has. His father was a good coach but
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  couldn't win the big one. Marty Schottenheimer could not
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  win the big one. But Brian Schottenheimer out
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  dueled Brian Dabel. Brian Dabel, quarterback
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  whisperer, the guy that everybody said was going to be a
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  good coach here in New York. Now Dabo obviously is on the hot
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  seat. A lot of people at Vegas had him
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  on the big on the hot seat. The number one coach that might
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  be fired early this season because the Giants over the last
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  two seasons have not shown up. They can't find guys in free
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  agency. They bring in Runyon.
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  Has Runyon been really good on the offensive line so far early
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  this season? He hasn't.
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  In two games. Runyon has not been good and
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  this has been a problem for the New York Giants.
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  Every GM they bring in, every coach they bring in since Tom
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  Coughlin, Go look at the coaches the Giants have brought in and
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  have failed for this organization.
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  This has a lot to do with Mara and obviously the organization
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  as a whole not keeping Saquon Barkley, letting Saquon Barkley
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  go to a a nemesis over there with Philadelphia who wins the
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  Super Bowl last year and almost breaks an Eric Dickerson record
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  that everybody thinks will never be broken.
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  The Giants sitting here today are trying to figure out who's
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  their running back. Well, it's pretty simple who the
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  running back is. We don't know who their running
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  back is. They think it's got a Boo.
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  Well, it's got a Boo. Had two receptions for 14 yards,
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  catching the ball. Tracy had four catches for 36
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  yards. They're not getting enough
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  offensively from these running backs.
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  Tracy ran the ball. Yeah, he had.
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  He had five attempts. He had 15 yards.
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  He was averaging 3 point, 3.3 yards a carry, singletary, the
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  motor, whatever they call them, Ram jammer, one carry for four
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  yards, and Scataboo obviously had 11 attempts for 45 yards and
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  one touchdown. I don't know if Scataboo is a
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  number one guy. He's more of a #2 guy.
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  And I'll say this again, the Giants don't have enough
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  efficiency offensively to really compete with these big time
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  teams like the Eagles, like the Rams, like the the Packers.
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  Now a team like the Cowboys, we don't know what the Cowboys are.
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  We don't know what the the identity of the Cowboys are.
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  They got a new coach. You bring in some new pieces in
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  the offseason. The offensive line, there's a
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  lot of questions on the offensive line and the defense.
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  They lost Michael Parsons a week before the season started to go
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  to Green Bay. This team in the New York Giants
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  wasn't expected to be great. I was.
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  I would have thought they would use Jackson Dark Dart a little
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  bit more in the running game, even though he's not starting.
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  I would use him in certain running plays.
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  I would use him in some kind of, you know, you know, hitting ball
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  track. I don't know.
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  They were supposed to be one of these coaches that you think
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  could be that offensive mind that that guy that the Giants
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  have been looking for and he hasn't been over the last couple
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  of years. He really hasn't.
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  The guy that really showed up in the game, where's Russell Wilson
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  30 for 41450 yards, 3 touchdowns and an interception.
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  The old Russell Wilson showed up in game #2 does that tell me
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  that Russell Wilson is back? He's going to be the starter for
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  the rest of the season? The answer would be no, he
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  wouldn't be. The Cowboys defense is
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  horrendous. They have no secondary.
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  The secondary stinks. They don't really have a pass
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  rush. They're using multiple guys at
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  the line of scrimmage. They have nothing.
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  But the Cowboys have the one thing that I have said, and I'll
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  go right back into it, they got DAC Prescott.
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  And even though DAC Prescott didn't have those that game that
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  just really is appealing to you, he still was 38 for 52.
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  He still had 361 yards and he still had two touchdowns.
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  He did throw an interception. His quarterback rating was at
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  96. But he got enough running from
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  Williams. Williams looks like he's a
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  player. Williams did not work out with
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  the Denver Broncos. He didn't.
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  He was drafted from the Denver Broncos.
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  I think he was a second round draft pick.
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  He didn't work out over there, couldn't stay healthy.
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  He goes to the Cowboys in the first two games.
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  He had two touchdowns in the first game against the Eagles.
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  Defense. That's really good.
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  Even without Jane Lee Carter, it's a pretty good defense.
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  And then it gets a Giants front 7 that's really good.
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  With Dexter Lawrence and Thibodeau and the talent that
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  they have on that line, the youngsters that they have on the
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  line, you would have thought they would clog up the middle
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  and make them beat them in the air.
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  Well, Williams ran the ball. Lamb had 9 receptions for 112
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  yards. Ferguson was 9 for 9 receptions
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  for 78 yards. Pickens had finally a game,
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  game, game #2 where he had five receptions for 68 yards and one
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  touch on, I want to see more from Pickens.
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  But here's the thing, the Giants really led the game all the way
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  through till the fourth quarter. And what happened in the fourth
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  quarter? Well, the choke and this is the
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  problem. Coaching has a lot to do with
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  this. If your coach cannot call the
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  right times out, time out, if he can't control the game in the
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  game clock, you don't have the right coach.
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  Robert Saul is one of those guys as he's taking what receipts?
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  He's still taking receipts over there in San Francisco, even
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  though San Francisco's two and O the Giants.
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  I don't know if this coaching staff is good enough to to win
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  games like this, close games like this, because the Cowboys
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  are not a good team. They have deficiencies, they
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  have weaknesses. They have CD Lamb and they have
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  Pickens. I I don't I don't think this is
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  a dominant running game. I don't think their offensive
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  lines that good. They have a couple of first
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  rounders on that offensive line. Nevertheless, they're just
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  they're young. They're they're still trying to
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  figure out their identity with a young, with a new coach, a
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  coach. It's never been a coach in the
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  NFL has been an offensive coordinator.
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  We know him as Jet fans as well under the Rex Ryan regime.
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  This is not a good Cowboy team. It's not.
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  But the Cowboys have the one thing that I believe teams are
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  are looking for, and that's a kicker.
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  This guy, I don't think you can say bad things about this guy.
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  This guy was 4 for four. His longest field goal kick was
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  6464. This guy is not only the best
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  kicker in the NFL, this guy was a soccer player.
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  This guy changed his career from soccer to football.
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  Look at the talent that this guy has given the Cowboys, the
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  Cowboy. This guy can win games by
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  himself, by himself, and that's what you need.
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  Everybody says you need a good running game to win
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  championships. You need a good quarterback.
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  You need a good offensive line, you need a good defense.
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  Guess what? In the playoffs, remember the
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  the, those Patriot teams, early Patriot team, who, who was the
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  kicker on those teams? Adam Vinatieri.
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  Adam Vinatieri is a Hall of Famer.
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  He will go to the Hall of Fame. You're going to tell me right
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  now who's been the best kicker in the NFL for the last two
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  seasons? There's no question it's been
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  Aubrey. There's no question and you've
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  got a chance. He put it on display on Sunday
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  and the Giants had a chance to win it overtime.
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  They did. And I again, I'm not going to
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  blame this all on the coaching staff, but guess what?
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  If Bryant Schottenheimer is calling more plays than you are,
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  and if a rookie coach is in a position to play a veteran guy
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  that's been there with the New York Giants over the last few
• 20:58
  seasons and is trying to buy a win by trying to buy a win
• 21:02
  against a team, let's be honest, was at home.
• 21:06
  The Cowboys and the Giants were out playing them.
• 21:09
  And for years Eli Manning has been dominated against the
• 21:12
  Cowboys in Dallas. Go look at Eli Manning's record
• 21:16
  in Dallas when he was there with the New York Giants.
• 21:19
  I mean, he was dominant and the Giants have always played well
• 21:23
  in Dallas. Go, I'm not even lying.
• 21:25
  Go look at the statistics. But the Giants, for some reason,
• 21:30
  when the going gets tough, they can't buy a win.
• 21:35
  And, and again, this is what separates the good teams from
• 21:38
  the bad because the NFL, even the great teams are not much
• 21:43
  better than the worst teams. They really, it's, it's very
• 21:47
  close. It, it's, it's actually
• 21:50
  minuscule. It might be, it might be by 5/10
• 21:54
  of a point. I mean, and that's how close it
• 21:56
  is. Kansas City, all those years,
• 21:59
  how dominant they were and the records that they've had.
• 22:02
  Look at the games, look how close the games were last year.
• 22:06
  Kansas City was they they what was their record?
• 22:09
  They had twelve wins last year, 1315 wins last year.
• 22:12
  And most of the games were won by by by a field goal.
• 22:17
  They barely won those games and they lost and and, and when they
• 22:21
  did lose, when they did lose what one game or two games, they
• 22:24
  were games that were so very close to when it when it comes
• 22:30
  to the NFL and I'll I'll go. And as a Jet fan, I've watched
• 22:33
  bad football for a very, very long time.
• 22:36
  As a matter of fact, I was talking to Leaf.
• 22:37
  And if Leaf's listening, we talk about it all the time.
• 22:41
  And I'll mention it again. The Jets have not been in the
• 22:45
  playoffs since I was 28 years old.
• 22:47
  I am 43 years old, ladies and gentlemen.
• 22:49
  That was the last time The Jets made an appearance in the
• 22:52
  playoffs 15 years ago. Think about that.
• 22:56
  This is the longest any NFL team right now to date has not been
• 23:01
  in the playoffs. Think about that.
• 23:03
  The Browns, all the bad teams that we've seen over the years,
• 23:06
  The Jets have been the worst. And how close has it been year
• 23:12
  in and year out, Year out, when even on the good years, Remember
• 23:15
  Todd Bowles, his first year The Jets won 10 games and they
• 23:17
  missed the playoffs by 1/2 a game.
• 23:21
  Think about that. I remember it last game of the
• 23:25
  season, I think it was against Rex Ryan.
• 23:27
  You got They got swept by Rex Ryan's Bills for the season.
• 23:29
  I, I remember it, pop it in my head.
• 23:32
  I remember it very well. And that was a year after Rex
• 23:35
  Ryan gets fired and it goes to the Bills.
• 23:39
  I just, to me, when you look at the Giants and you look at the
• 23:42
  position that the Giants are in, the Giants are not expected to
• 23:45
  win more than five or six games. And I don't think anybody's
• 23:48
  going to argue that. But Russell Wilson putting up
• 23:52
  numbers like that, what does it tell me right now?
• 23:54
  It tells me that he could still play.
• 23:55
  So if I were the Giants right now, I'd wait a couple more
• 24:00
  weeks and they'll be a team, maybe the Bengals, who just lost
• 24:05
  Joe Burrow for a significant amount of time.
• 24:07
  We don't know when he's going to come back.
• 24:08
  He's probably going to have foot surgery.
• 24:10
  They're saying he could be out five, maybe even 8 weeks.
• 24:13
  He could be out of maybe for the rest of the season.
• 24:16
  We don't know how it's going to heal.
• 24:17
  Turf toe is a bad injury when it comes to football.
• 24:20
  Russell Wilson might be a fit because I don't I don't trust
• 24:25
  what is his name? Browner Jake Browning Browning.
• 24:28
  I mean, I don't trust him. I'm going to trust him if if the
• 24:31
  Bengals sneak into the playoffs. I, I don't and by the.
• 24:34
  Way Jameis Winston baby. Jameis Winston, he he's washed
• 24:37
  up. I mean, I guess that him to the
• 24:38
  Bengals. So what do they call themselves?
• 24:40
  The three Amigos or whatever the two Amigos now?
• 24:42
  Because. Two manure because cutlets says
• 24:43
  goodbye. Oh well, Cutlets is playing with
• 24:45
  himself over there with the Patriots.
• 24:47
  But nevertheless, I, I, you look at the position that the Giants
• 24:50
  are in, they might be in a position where they can get
• 24:53
  something back for Russell Wilson.
• 24:54
  And we've seen this. The Giants had Kurt Warner, they
• 24:57
  had a winning record when they decided to part ways with Kurt,
• 25:00
  they sent him to Arizona and they ran and they rolled with
• 25:04
  Eli Manning. This is good.
• 25:06
  There's going to be a time probably in the next couple of
• 25:09
  weeks, maybe against the Saints because I think it's Week 5
• 25:12
  where they should go to that route.
• 25:14
  Maybe they go with Jackson Dart and then at the trade deadline,
• 25:18
  which is what 2 weeks after that, you trade Russell Wilson,
• 25:21
  Maybe you get a third round draft pick for Russell Wilson.
• 25:24
  Maybe the Bengals will be reaching because they know
• 25:26
  they're a playoff contender team and they know they're not
• 25:28
  getting Joe Burrow back. Well, they'll overextend it and
• 25:31
  give him a second round pick. That's where the Giants are
• 25:34
  going. But it to me, if you're a Giant
• 25:36
  fan, I I would be pissed. I would be upset.
• 25:41
  I know Fish is a Giant fan. I know you're a Giant fan,
• 25:44
  Speedy. I know Scoops is a Giant fan.
• 25:47
  I know Kevin right now listening to the show is a Giant fan.
• 25:50
  All you Giant fans out there, you're probably not happy today.
• 25:53
  The only thing I would be happy about is the fact that your team
• 25:58
  worked. They still, even when they let
• 26:02
  the Cowboys come back in the game, they still had a chance to
• 26:05
  win the game. They still didn't quit.
• 26:08
  Even though I believe one way or another these players are going
• 26:11
  to quit just like the The Jets and Garrett Wilson and and Aaron
• 26:15
  Rodgers quit on Roberts Allah last year.
• 26:17
  I think eventually this team knows that they're not getting
• 26:20
  over overextended as far as their talent is concerned and
• 26:25
  they're going to realize they're not going to win more than five
• 26:27
  or six games and, and, and they're going to be up there in
• 26:30
  the top 10 when it comes to draft picks next year.
• 26:33
  So I, I, I, I know Giant fans are upset.
• 26:36
  Cowboy fans are excited. I don't know why you're excited.
• 26:38
  The Cowboys are going nowhere this year.
• 26:40
  You could see it. The Giants are not a good team.
• 26:42
  And by the way, the Giant strength was their defense
• 26:45
  really in game #1 if they were not good in game #2 they were
• 26:49
  not good when you're giving Dak Prescott 360 yards and you're
• 26:53
  letting the running team, running game of Williams run all
• 26:57
  over you in certain aspects of the game.
• 26:59
  And by the way, letting CD Lamb and Ferguson and Pickens just
• 27:05
  completely control the game in the first all, well, not in the
• 27:09
  first quarter, but it from all the way from the third quarter
• 27:12
  to the fourth, it was pathetic. And that has a lot to do with
• 27:14
  coaching. That has a lot to do with the
• 27:16
  defensive coordinator and has a lot to do with Dabel.
• 27:18
  But they what, they took it to overtime and then they just
• 27:23
  bumped into a just a hot, hot kicker.
• 27:25
  Yeah. And you also look at the defense
• 27:27
  from the standpoint of how much talent that they have compared
• 27:29
  to the offensive side of the ball.
• 27:30
  Like the offense overachieved with not having the talent.
• 27:33
  Obviously the offensive line, which with Thomas being heard
• 27:35
  and obviously Hudson getting ejected and all stepped in and
• 27:38
  actually played pretty well. I think you look at like you
• 27:41
  said, there were variances with the running game that looked
• 27:42
  good. There were variances that are
• 27:43
  still going to be growing pain because they're both they're all
• 27:45
  young running backs. But Wandale Robinson was a great
• 27:48
  he actually, he's had a good first two games so.
• 27:50
  Far he does, he does look good. And that might be another guy
• 27:53
  like you were talking about Russell Wilson possibly being
• 27:54
  traded the trade deadline. He's out on a contract year.
• 27:56
  I think they declined his fifth year option.
• 27:58
  Maybe you could? See, no, you finally got
• 28:00
  something with him and you're going to just move him?
• 28:02
  Well, see, he's out there because again, there's a lot of
• 28:04
  teams. Like, what are you going to get
• 28:05
  for him? Speedy?
• 28:06
  He, he's a slot guy at best. He is not a number one guy.
• 28:09
  He's not a #2 he's more of a slot guy.
• 28:11
  Number three. I'm not moving Wandell
• 28:13
  Robertson. As a matter of fact, if he has a
• 28:15
  good day, if he has a Goodyear, you extend him, you give him a
• 28:18
  contract, give him a 2-3 year deal worth about 30 million, you
• 28:21
  get him for $10 million. And he could be very explosive.
• 28:24
  I, I know Fish loves him. And, and for you to think that,
• 28:28
  hey, you know what, we're just going to move and we're finally
• 28:30
  getting something out of this kid and we're going to move him.
• 28:32
  That doesn't make any sense. And going back to the defensive
• 28:34
  side of the ball, like that's where the talent is a lot more.
• 28:37
  And I think that's where the coaching I think hurt.
• 28:39
  I think they had a good game plan on CD.
• 28:40
  Lamb, he was like 3/4. He was doing nothing.
• 28:42
  And then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter, he started to
• 28:44
  take off when the Giants were playing softer.
• 28:46
  When the going gets tough in the fourth quarter, that's when you
• 28:50
  have to stop him. And if if you can't stop him in
• 28:52
  the fourth quarter, you never stop them.
• 28:54
  And I think the bigger issue was the fact that the Giants had
• 28:57
  trouble with their other receivers.
• 28:58
  Kvante Turpin was getting way too much separation against
• 29:01
  Paulson and Debo. A lot of the time they put a
• 29:02
  Debo back on the other side of the field, playing in his own
• 29:05
  against Lamb, and he got outmatched badly.
• 29:07
  Cordell, Fly and Drew, Phil. I told you about a depot.
• 29:10
  I, I just, I don't know why you guys think, Oh well, he was good
• 29:13
  here and he was good there. Guy couldn't stay healthy and
• 29:16
  he's not a, he's really not a #1 or #2 and and really, how many
• 29:20
  seasons has he had a full season where he's played 1617 games?
• 29:23
  Yeah, he didn't play much at the beginning of his career with the
• 29:25
  Saints when they drafted him. I remember he, I liked him out
• 29:27
  of the draft that year because he was supposed to be a second,
• 29:29
  first or second round pick. He fell because of the COVID
• 29:32
  year. He had an injury in college.
• 29:34
  He stayed one more year, but I always liked his talent level.
• 29:37
  But they've missed used him a lot so far, like he's much more
• 29:39
  of a physical corner that I think they're trying to use more
• 29:41
  as a soft bank sucks. Banks I don't trust.
• 29:44
  At all. He sucks.
• 29:45
  This guy was a first round talent.
• 29:47
  Yes, and this was Shane's number one pick.
• 29:49
  This was his first. First round pick has been an
• 29:52
  absolute bust. Yep, absolute bust.
• 29:54
  I remember that draft because I badly wanted Jordan Addison.
• 29:56
  He went to pick before to Minnesota and then I wanted Joey
• 29:59
  Porter once they all the receivers were off the board.
• 30:01
  I wanted Joey Porter and he's obviously, I don't know what I'm
• 30:03
  saying, he's the best corner in that class, but he's not
• 30:04
  definitely. I've played Banks so far in his
• 30:05
  career, but when you have a front seven that good too, like
• 30:07
  you're saying they're. Banks isn't playing.
• 30:10
  He didn't play speedy. They benched his ass.
• 30:12
  Good. He stinks.
• 30:13
  He's not playing. He stinks.
• 30:15
  He's horrible. That that that's like the
• 30:18
  Giants. I mean, Speedy, I had to
• 30:20
  interject just because there's so much problems with this.
• 30:25
  The secondary, there's so many problems.
• 30:27
  It's not just the secondary, it's the coach of the secondary
• 30:31
  and in my opinion, playing soft zone coverage at the end of the
• 30:36
  game when the guy you know can kick 65 yard field goals.
• 30:39
  He's a fireable offense. What are you doing?
• 30:42
  What are you stupid? This is the best kicker in
• 30:44
  football. It's not even close.
• 30:46
  You're going to just play prevent defense.
• 30:48
  Fish, let me ask you this too, because this is the biggest
• 30:51
  thing I had with Bowen. Why is Abdul Carter inside?
• 30:54
  No, I love that. I disagree.
• 30:56
  This is the JJ Watt. JJ Watt was the first guy about
• 31:00
  12 years ago that they were like, hey, if this guy's really
• 31:02
  good pass rushing, let's put him inside every once in a while to
• 31:06
  bring some pressure from there and we can put another skinnier
• 31:08
  guy who might not be able to hold up if he's getting double
• 31:11
  teams. He ain't going to get double
• 31:12
  teams if JJ Watts inside. So now Carter's bringing that
• 31:15
  pressure inside. And Brian Burns was awesome in
• 31:18
  the game, and Dexter Lawrence occupies a lot of space.
• 31:21
  So the pass rush is not the problem.
• 31:24
  The problem problem is in those situations, bring everybody,
• 31:29
  bring people don't play zone coverage at this point.
• 31:33
  I mean, you could play like 2 over like 2 under or three
• 31:36
  under. I'm sorry like 3 deep rather and
• 31:40
  and then have guys playing man under.
• 31:42
  Guys, don't you? Think five guys.
• 31:43
  Don't you think it's dropping? Don't you think if Wink
• 31:46
  Martindale was here, this would have been a different game?
• 31:48
  And that. You have to play 70 to now it'd
• 31:51
  be 70. I don't think so, because you
• 31:53
  were just saying that they needed to.
• 31:54
  He would have played Tay Banks because Tay Banks is a press
• 31:56
  corner. But they needed to.
• 31:58
  They needed to get out Dak Prescott.
• 32:00
  They needed to put pressure on him, and they weren't doing it
• 32:02
  enough. And especially in the fourth
• 32:03
  quarter, I watched game clips because I didn't get a chance to
• 32:06
  watch the full game. I was in and out of the jet game
• 32:08
  because I was emceeing a wedding, but when I got a chance
• 32:11
  to watch the increments of of of certain parts of the game I just
• 32:16
  didn't see any blitz packages. I Dabel was a deer of the
• 32:20
  headlights and and really was out coached by Brian
• 32:23
  Schottenheimer in the 4th. Quarter I disagree.
• 32:25
  I Dabel did everything he could to win that really he did
• 32:29
  everything. Defense, not the defense.
• 32:30
  He did everything. Not the defense.
• 32:33
  He did everything. He coached a better game
• 32:35
  offensively than Schottenheimer did.
• 32:37
  Let's not pretend that he didn't.
• 32:38
  He was a really good coach with a quarterback that wanted to do
• 32:42
  what he wanted to do was just air it out.
• 32:44
  You've got guys to air it out too.
• 32:45
  They have speed. I I don't know why they can't
• 32:48
  unlock Hyatt, but they are able to get Neighbors go.
• 32:51
  I don't understand it, but Neighbors was unstoppable.
• 32:54
  I'm not going to be mad at Paulson and Debo not being able
• 32:57
  to stop CD Lamb. No one stops CD Lamb.
• 32:59
  My problem was his stopping Turpin.
• 33:01
  I don't know why he's Turpin in so much space.
• 33:02
  Well, it's because because it's a soft zone coverage speedy,
• 33:05
  he's playing telling him playoff.
• 33:07
  He's saying like, Oh well, we'll playoff and then our four guys
• 33:11
  will just get home every time. In the NFL, even though that's
• 33:14
  not a realistic thing, they'll get home one out of three times.
• 33:18
  Well, what if two of those plays are for 30 yards each that they
• 33:21
  don't get home on? You got to be more creative with
• 33:24
  the pressures. You're right.
• 33:25
  So, I mean, Errol, I don't disagree with you, and I'm sorry
• 33:28
  for jumping ahead of you, Jabba, but this one just got me so
• 33:31
  freaking pissed off because you're right, Wink, it would
• 33:34
  have been very different. Wink was bad for one reason and
• 33:37
  then he went to the polar opposite guy who's bad for the
• 33:39
  other reason, the guy who blitzes too much now, the guy
• 33:42
  who doesn't blitz at all. They, you know, and even if he
• 33:44
  does blitz, it's a crappy four man pressure.
• 33:47
  You know, just they dropped one lineman and then they brought a
• 33:51
  linebacker. You lost Micah McFadden, he was
• 33:53
  your best blitzing linebacker. You don't have a second guy
• 33:56
  that's going to do it now. So they, they don't, they're not
• 33:58
  bringing guys. So that's why Carter's playing
• 34:00
  inside because they don't really have a middle linebacker so that
• 34:03
  they want to caroke to flow. He's not a blitzing guy.
• 34:06
  I, I, I, I think that they're kind of screwed with some of the
• 34:10
  personnel. If this coach is allowed to
• 34:13
  stay, it's the coach. This coach, this is the wrong.
• 34:15
  Scheme for this group of notes dable is not staying as the New
• 34:19
  York. Giants Well, well, even if it
• 34:21
  Dable stays the defensive. Is not has.
• 34:23
  He's not that whole. And I don't care what anybody
• 34:26
  says. I don't care what Mara is saying
• 34:27
  and what ownership is saying that both Shane and Dabo are
• 34:31
  going to have a job at the end of this season no matter what
• 34:33
  happens. I don't believe that there's no
• 34:35
  way the fans are going to be happy about that when we've
• 34:38
  watched this team just completely fall flat on their
• 34:41
  face with the talent that they have on the defensive line.
• 34:44
  They didn't do enough in the second-half of the game where
• 34:47
  you want your big time superstars like the Carters of
• 34:50
  the World or the Thibodeaux of the world or even Mr. Dexy Sexy,
• 34:56
  whatever you want to call them. But Jabba, I mean, you watched a
• 34:59
  game. What, what were your thoughts?
• 35:01
  What was your process of elimination on what happened to
• 35:04
  the New York Giants in the second-half of the game?
• 35:07
  Well, it was, it was always interesting because it's like,
• 35:10
  of course, you know, Russ is going to have this week against
• 35:13
  my fantasy team. There's a couple of buddies that
• 35:15
  just you know how that goes, but it's just it's kind of all over
• 35:19
  the place for me. Like they, they figure it looks
• 35:21
  like they figure it out, then they don't figure it out.
• 35:23
  They try to switch it up and then it doesn't happen.
• 35:25
  I, I found something interesting though, that you, that you
• 35:27
  touched on with, with Jackson Dart and how you thought you'd
• 35:30
  see him maybe in some packages or whatever.
• 35:32
  And how you said maybe week 5 is when he's going to come about.
• 35:36
  Do you really think they would do that in essence of, OK, what
• 35:40
  if he gets hurt just trying to, you know, put him in these
• 35:43
  packages? He's not our quarterback, but
• 35:46
  we're trying to use them in different, in different
• 35:48
  formations or what have you. I, I don't know if they would do
• 35:51
  that. I, I, I think in hindsight, our
• 35:53
  theory, I think it, it looks great because you get him on the
• 35:56
  field, but what if he gets hurt not being the quarterback?
• 35:59
  And you know, Russ does have, obviously it's weak too.
• 36:02
  So we don't really know. But I, I see where you're coming
• 36:06
  from, but I mean, what wouldn't it do more harm than good?
• 36:09
  Like if for something happened. Well, they used Jackson, Jackson
• 36:13
  Dart, and he had one attempt for -3 so he was on the field at one
• 36:17
  point in this game. I'm looking at the numbers.
• 36:20
  He did play and he had one running attempt.
• 36:23
  I think they need to use him more.
• 36:25
  I think he needs to get a little bit more comfortable, maybe
• 36:28
  using some trick plays, some running and throwing plays with
• 36:31
  Jackson Dart. It'll get him more.
• 36:33
  Remember, he was playing against third string defensive players
• 36:36
  in the preseason. He wasn't playing against the
• 36:38
  top front lines of these defensive teams that they that
• 36:43
  they were matched up. I mean, when they were playing
• 36:45
  The Jets, I, I quit. Quinton Williams wasn't playing.
• 36:48
  Quincy Williams wasn't playing, McDonald wasn't playing, they
• 36:51
  weren't getting enough and he didn't get a chance to see the
• 36:55
  star players that The Jets were providing and what The Jets have
• 36:58
  provided over the last two weeks.
• 36:59
  So again, you have to give this kid a little bit more
• 37:03
  opportunities to see the field and understand how to play.
• 37:07
  And remember the speed of the game is completely different
• 37:09
  than college football. And remember, all you need to do
• 37:12
  is drop 1 foot and it and it's a touchdown.
• 37:15
  You need both feet down for it to be a touchdown.
• 37:18
  And we all know about to touch back in all the different rules
• 37:21
  that the NFL provides that the NCAA doesn't.
• 37:25
  So it's a different game. And in the speed of the game,
• 37:27
  the talent look at. Did you watch the Eagles
• 37:30
  yesterday against the Kansas City Chiefs?
• 37:32
  I mean, you could see the talent of what?
• 37:35
  How fast the Eagles are comparison to what the Kansas
• 37:39
  City Chiefs are. Kansas City looks old.
• 37:41
  They look different than they have been over the last couple
• 37:44
  of years. Travis Kelce made a mistake,
• 37:47
  which cost them the game. It's not the same.
• 37:50
  It's not the same speed. And it's not the same game that
• 37:53
  guys like Andy Reid like to run. Yeah, because he doesn't have
• 37:57
  the talent around him. That's why they made the move.
• 37:59
  That's why they brought guys, you know, worthy.
• 38:03
  What's his name again? Rice, Nice and worthy.
• 38:05
  Worthy. They had they they made a move
• 38:07
  and they brought worthy in in the first round.
• 38:09
  What was it a year ago? So thank you.
• 38:12
  But you could have you could have corrected me a little while
• 38:15
  ago, but you couldn't. But I the fact is, is they're
• 38:17
  waiting for Rice to come back. That's what.
• 38:19
  They're doing no, no. And I, I see what you're saying
• 38:22
  in, in, in all of that, but then don't you think at times they
• 38:26
  put a little bit too much emphasis on this on pre season
• 38:28
  2? Because like you said, the game
• 38:30
  is so much faster. And then in pre season, you're
• 38:31
  really not getting, you know, full speed, full boat guys and,
• 38:34
  and most of their, the true G's aren't playing.
• 38:37
  So they're like, how do you, how do you do that and put him in
• 38:41
  positions to get him adjusted to the speed?
• 38:44
  Why in certain aspects, we've seen guys that, you know, maybe
• 38:47
  sit can adjust to the speed and, and pick it up faster than guys
• 38:50
  that are just thrown right in the.
• 38:51
  I don't, I don't know that that would be tables.
• 38:55
  We got to move on to the jail. Like a like a spring training
• 38:58
  thing, like you just see a guy if he just has it like the zip
• 39:02
  on the arm, like he probably know like Jabba, like in in
• 39:05
  baseball, like though, it just sounds different off the bat.
• 39:07
  Even though if you're in batting practice, it's like that type of
• 39:10
  thing in spring training where you're just like, oh, this guy
• 39:12
  has something, he's going to be a guy, let's keep him around.
• 39:15
  And it's just those types of things.
• 39:17
  You'll see Jackson dart as soon as you see Andrew Thomas.
• 39:20
  He ain't coming onto the field until Thomas is back.
• 39:22
  I I think you see Jackson dart week, week five against the
• 39:26
  Saints because the Saints are not a good team.
• 39:29
  And even though the Saints put up a fight against San Francisco
• 39:33
  on Sunday, the Saints are not a good team.
• 39:35
  So and they don't have a star quarterback as we all know
• 39:38
  they're going to be looking for one in in this year's draft.
• 39:40
  But to go to the Jet game, there's really nothing to speak
• 39:43
  about or or talk about. The Jets were just absolutely
• 39:46
  horrible. They could not stop Josh Allen.
• 39:49
  Josh Allen could do whatever he wanted in the game.
• 39:53
  There was nothing that I saw that could have stopped.
• 39:56
  And again, Josh Allen didn't. The numbers don't show it
• 39:59
  because you'll see Josh Allen was 14 for 25 and he had 148
• 40:03
  yards. It looked a lot worse and The
• 40:05
  Jets made a lot of mistakes. Clemens, that penalty that he
• 40:08
  had in the game, I mean, to me, no nonsense.
• 40:12
  Aaron Glenn to me either suspends him in the next game,
• 40:16
  doesn't play him in the first half when you when you do
• 40:19
  something like that. We saw what he did to the punt
• 40:21
  returner and after. To game number one, they they
• 40:24
  dropped them and we all we've we've heard it.
• 40:27
  We've heard it from Aaron Glenn. He is not letting any of the
• 40:30
  players on the team, no matter who you are, Garrett Wilson,
• 40:33
  who's the star wide receiver or Bruce Hall, who's to start
• 40:35
  running back or even Justin Fields when you make an
• 40:38
  incompetent play in a game that could cost your team a win, what
• 40:43
  is he going to do? He's going to drop the hammer on
• 40:45
  you and Clemens. To me, that was inexcusable what
• 40:49
  he did in the game. And we've seen that Quincy,
• 40:52
  Quincy Williams last game in game #1 he made a mistake and
• 40:56
  hit a guy outside of the hashes outside out of bounds, which
• 41:00
  cost them 15 yards. When they maybe and maybe The
• 41:03
  Jets win the game if they didn't get that penalty.
• 41:06
  That Quincy Williams, because it was I think at the point it was
• 41:08
  going to be 4th and 10. And then he, he, he commits that
• 41:11
  foul, which gave him a first down and put him in in a
• 41:15
  position on the 50 or 48 yards hard line with Quincy Williams.
• 41:19
  The Jets make too many mistakes. They make too many mistakes.
• 41:23
  And then Josh Allen went out for for a couple of plays.
• 41:27
  Mitchell Chabitsky came in and he threw a 32 yard pass.
• 41:30
  I mean it well, I don't even think it was 3022 yard pass.
• 41:34
  And then he threw another. I, I, it was 32 or 22, I don't
• 41:38
  know, but it was a couple of, it was a big, it was a big play
• 41:40
  that Mitchell Trabitsky made, which I, I mean, it doesn't mean
• 41:45
  anything, but it's Mitchell Trabitsky.
• 41:48
  OK, so I, I just, and then Justin Fields.
• 41:51
  Justin Fields did not have a good day.
• 41:54
  He didn't, I mean, 3 for 11. He did have the concussion.
• 41:58
  He did. And Taylor came in.
• 42:00
  They couldn't run the ball. The Jets could not run the ball
• 42:02
  if their life depended on, Remember, they had over almost
• 42:05
  300 yards in game number one against a Pittsburgh Steeler
• 42:08
  defense. And then in game #2 against a
• 42:11
  Buffalo, a Buffalo defense that might be a little bit better
• 42:15
  than Pittsburgh. You couldn't run a lick.
• 42:17
  Trish Hall was 10 attempts for 29 yards.
• 42:20
  Taylor, yeah, Taylor, a quarterback that can run, was 3
• 42:27
  attempts for 21 yards. Braylon Allen, 2 attempts for 11
• 42:31
  yards. They couldn't run the ball.
• 42:33
  They even use Smith, a wide receiver, in the running game
• 42:36
  and he had a -10 they couldn't do anything.
• 42:39
  The wide receivers. Garrett Wilson was for reception
• 42:43
  for 50 yards. Didn't do anything in the game.
• 42:46
  Their their second, their second most attack, you know, catches
• 42:50
  in the game was Breece Hall who had two receptions for 9 yards.
• 42:54
  Everybody else 8 yards, 6 yards, 5 yards, 5 yards.
• 42:57
  They didn't have enough offense. They made too many mistakes.
• 43:00
  Special teams again was absolutely putrid in the game.
• 43:04
  They couldn't kick the ball. It just everything and anything
• 43:07
  they could have done wrong, it happened and and they were down
• 43:11
  at 1.20 to three in the first half of the game.
• 43:15
  The game was over in the second quarter.
• 43:18
  There was no way The Jets were coming back.
• 43:20
  The defense didn't put enough pressure on Josh Allen.
• 43:23
  As a matter of fact, I don't even think they had a sack in
• 43:25
  the game. They had four sacks in game #1
• 43:30
  and they didn't have one sack against the Buffalo Bills
• 43:33
  offensive line, a Buffalo Bills offensive line that Dawkins
• 43:36
  doesn't shut the hell up, Talks about The Jets defense, how it's
• 43:39
  overrated that this Jet, this Jets team is, is not good.
• 43:42
  It's never been good. They're laughing stock.
• 43:44
  They're one of the worst teams in the NFL, one of the worst
• 43:47
  ownerships in the NFL. You would you would think that
• 43:50
  this team would have went out on your home soil, on your home
• 43:53
  turf and actually show up. The Jets last year, both games
• 43:58
  against Buffalo, they should have won both games.
• 44:00
  They choked in the fourth quarter against Buffalo when
• 44:03
  they had a lead. I think they were up by almost
• 44:05
  8IN in the fourth quarter with what, 8 minutes left of the game
• 44:08
  and they choked and then in in game number one, they won that
• 44:12
  game. They didn't.
• 44:14
  They didn't show up there. They, by the way, Aaron Glenn
• 44:17
  had every reason to be upset after the game in front of the
• 44:20
  media, had every reason to go out there and and throw.
• 44:24
  They didn't throw any players under the bus.
• 44:26
  But he said my team didn't show up in the game.
• 44:27
  It looked like we weren't even there.
• 44:30
  We had no business being on the same field as the Buffalo Bills.
• 44:33
  It was embarrassing, embarrassing to show up against
• 44:38
  a division opponent, a division opponent that has been the best
• 44:42
  team in the division for the last Four Seasons, five seasons
• 44:47
  really. And you would expect, hey, this
• 44:49
  is the game where we're going to figure out what separates us
• 44:53
  from the Buffalo Bills and what's going to what is it going
• 44:56
  to take for us to get over the hump and win the division in the
• 45:00
  near future. And what did they do?
• 45:02
  They laid up a lousy goose egg. And I again, there, there was
• 45:06
  nothing that impressive with the Buffalo Bills offense.
• 45:09
  There really wasn't. They couldn't they couldn't get
• 45:11
  to Josh Allen and Josh Allen's numbers weren't ridiculous.
• 45:15
  He didn't have any touchdowns thrown.
• 45:17
  They, they, they had none of that.
• 45:18
  But I'll tell you what Josh Allen does great.
• 45:20
  He runs the ball. Josh Allen had more runs.
• 45:26
  Well, actually I'm looking at the numbers right now.
• 45:28
  Josh Allen had 60, what is it, 62?
• 45:31
  No 59 yards running in six attempts.
• 45:35
  Josh Allen outran any. And by the way, Justin Fields
• 45:38
  had 5049 rushing yards and and he played.
• 45:42
  He didn't play the full game. Josh Allen ran the ball more
• 45:45
  than any of The Jets running backs and more than Justin
• 45:48
  Fields. And Justin Fields is considered
• 45:51
  a running back. That's what he is.
• 45:53
  He's not a thrower, he's a runner.
• 45:55
  And Josh Allen outran Justin Fields in the game.
• 45:58
  Now, again, Justin Fields went down, but there were too many
• 46:01
  mistakes, too many penalties. I think they had six or seven
• 46:03
  penalties in the first half and in the fourth.
• 46:06
  In the fourth quarter, I think they had three or four, which
• 46:09
  were timely penalties that cost The Jets significantly.
• 46:14
  Now, if The Jets had any chance of coming back in the game, it
• 46:17
  was in certain parts of the fourth quarter, even with Tyrod
• 46:19
  Taylor, and they just couldn't produce.
• 46:22
  They couldn't put up points and Gary Wilson, as much as Garrett
• 46:26
  Wilson is a great player against these good defenses, a good
• 46:29
  secondaries, he doesn't show up in the big game.
• 46:31
  He doesn't. And they don't have secondary
• 46:33
  wide receivers. They don't have any secondary
• 46:36
  wide receivers. And this is going to be the
• 46:38
  problem moving forward this year.
• 46:40
  This is going. To well, if they don't have
• 46:41
  anybody too and then he, I mean he's still got 8 targets, but if
• 46:44
  you don't have anybody to take the pressure off you and you've
• 46:46
  got to try and do too much, that's not going to that's not
• 46:49
  going to be any help anyways. And especially if you can't run
• 46:51
  the ball and then field it. I mean, yeah, he's not that guy
• 46:54
  anyways, but you're still going to target him that much but with
• 46:57
  nothing to help. But that's what Justin Fields
• 46:59
  wanted. That's what The Jets wanted.
• 47:00
  They wanted to make. Sure.
• 47:01
  Yeah, yeah. The connection bag.
• 47:03
  Yeah, the connection and and wanted The Jets make a move for
• 47:05
  Olave. He was available before the
• 47:07
  season started. He was a guy that everybody was
• 47:09
  speaking about. He doesn't want to be over there
• 47:11
  with the Saints. Why don't you offer a third
• 47:14
  round draft pick for Olave? I think that would have that
• 47:16
  would have closed the deal. I think Olave gets traded to the
• 47:19
  New York Jets. They needed that secondary wide
• 47:22
  receiver because Gary Wilson is getting double teamed.
• 47:24
  But Garrett Wilson goes out there week in and week out, even
• 47:27
  last year saying how great he is and nobody can stop him
• 47:31
  one-on-one. OK, there were parts of this
• 47:33
  game that he was one-on-one and and and Fields was forcing the
• 47:38
  ball in in pockets that he could have caught the ball and he
• 47:41
  dropped the ball. He dropped the ball.
• 47:44
  So again, I'm not going to say this is all Garrett Wilson's
• 47:47
  fault. I'm not going to blame The Jets
• 47:49
  coaching staff, but maybe on the defensive side of the ball The
• 47:53
  Jets need to show up in the big parts of the game.
• 47:55
  I I will say this, I Quinn Williams was dominant last week.
• 47:59
  He was not good this week. The defensive line with Will
• 48:03
  McDonald and and Jermaine Johnson guys that showed up last
• 48:07
  week and I said, oh man, this this defense could be a world
• 48:10
  beater this year. They they looked like AP of what
• 48:14
  they were the week before. And and again, I want to see The
• 48:17
  Jets show up against these good offensive lines because the
• 48:20
  Buffalo Bills last year were ranked in the top ten offensive
• 48:23
  lines in football. You want to, you want to shut
• 48:26
  Dawkins up, you punch him in the lip, you punch him in the chest.
• 48:30
  You make sure that at the end of the game Dawkins knows who the
• 48:34
  New York Jets is, knows who Quinton Williams is, knows who
• 48:38
  guy like Will McDonald is, and they just didn't show up in the
• 48:41
  game. That's the problem.
• 48:42
  The Jets defense, their secondary was not good.
• 48:46
  Their front 7 was not good. And that's two games
• 48:49
  back-to-back games where when they needed a play, they needed
• 48:52
  an interception, they needed a game changing pick six.
• 48:55
  They couldn't produce. And if they don't do that week
• 48:58
  in and week out, at least get a pick or a pick six in every
• 49:02
  other game. The Jets are not winning
• 49:04
  football games because their offense.
• 49:06
  Is not So you're saying if they can't get it done winning, just
• 49:09
  go ahead and then like just put punishment on them?
• 49:11
  Is that what you're saying? What I'm saying is, what I'm
• 49:14
  saying is, is if The Jets can't punch this team or punch any of
• 49:18
  these teams in the lip early in the game, they're not winning.
• 49:21
  They need to find a way for this defense.
• 49:23
  Sauce Garner got paid a lot of money in the offseason.
• 49:26
  He needs to reduce, he needs to show up.
• 49:28
  He had a chance to intercept the ball in the first quarter.
• 49:31
  It was right in his hands and it falls on the ground.
• 49:34
  How do you not intercept the ball?
• 49:36
  It was right there in your hands and and it goes right through
• 49:39
  your hands. So who's the guy to step up for
• 49:42
  him to kind of, you know, swift kick, Swift kick in the you know
• 49:45
  what? Well, Aaron Glenn's going to
• 49:47
  give him a swift kick in the ass.
• 49:48
  Well, yeah, I mean, but obviously sometimes it comes
• 49:51
  down to you guys too. There's only so much a coach can
• 49:53
  do because like we everybody's talked about before, they can
• 49:56
  only do so much. They don't play the game.
• 49:58
  Your captain there has to be somebody.
• 50:00
  Your captains Quinn Williams, Quinn Williams needs to show up
• 50:03
  against these good offensive lines.
• 50:04
  Sauce Garner got paid. Garrett Wilson that got paid.
• 50:07
  If you're making this kind of Quinn Williams is making, what
• 50:10
  is he the third or fourth highest paid defensive lineman
• 50:12
  and all of the NFL and you're making that kind of money.
• 50:15
  You have to show up in the big game against those good
• 50:17
  offensive lines. Sauce Garner is the highest paid
• 50:19
  corner in the NFL. You got to show up and you got
• 50:22
  to intercept that ball and and show why The Jets decided to
• 50:27
  invest their money into you as a corner.
• 50:29
  And then Gary Wilson, he's the fifth highest paid wide receiver
• 50:34
  in the NFL. And against a secondary that
• 50:37
  really it wasn't at full strength, they really weren't.
• 50:40
  You should be able to beat him one-on-one.
• 50:43
  You couldn't, you couldn't beat him and that's what your
• 50:46
  superstar players need to show up in the big game and produce
• 50:50
  and they're just not doing it if they're not going to do that.
• 50:53
  The Jets aren't winning that many games.
• 50:55
  I already predicted The Jets win 5 or 6 games at best right now
• 50:58
  in the way they're playing. It could be even worse.
• 51:01
  And again, Aaron Glenn has every right to be pissed off at this
• 51:04
  team. Every right.
• 51:05
  I love what he had to say. I love what he said at the press
• 51:08
  conference. I love what he said today.
• 51:10
  We have to play better. We have to show up in the big
• 51:12
  game and in the second-half. If we get out played in the
• 51:15
  first half, we got to show up in the second-half and punch these
• 51:18
  guys in the lip. If they're not going to do that,
• 51:20
  this team doesn't have an identity.
• 51:23
  They need to find it and they need to find it soon because
• 51:25
  teams they're it's only going to get harder.
• 51:27
  The schedule is going to get harder.
• 51:29
  They're playing the Buccaneers next week.
• 51:31
  You think the Buccaneers are going to play Lolly Dolly with
• 51:33
  them. They're going to go out there
• 51:35
  and they're going to be beat the living.
• 51:37
  You know what out of them and they're going to Buccaneers
• 51:39
  Village, they're going to Tampa and Tampa is not one of those
• 51:44
  places you want to play and especially that's a defense that
• 51:46
  good. Yeah, and I think Aaron Glenn
• 51:48
  also has a right to be frustrated, too, because a lot
• 51:50
  of the mistakes they were making was fundamentally like missing
• 51:53
  tackles, missing blocking pass, rushing assignments, running
• 51:57
  lanes that James Cook had all these gaping holes to just run
• 52:00
  through. Like you're talking about their
• 52:01
  offensive. I'm being very good.
• 52:02
  It is very good. But like The Jets have enough
• 52:04
  talent to be able to adjust it in that in the front 7:00 to be
• 52:07
  able to adjust to that. I agree with you on Sauce
• 52:08
  Gardner. That might have been the worst
• 52:09
  game I've ever seen him play in his career.
• 52:11
  He was getting torched by Josh Palmer.
• 52:13
  How do you pay him the money that he made in the offseason
• 52:16
  when he had his worst season as a professional last year, right?
• 52:19
  Think about it. He was a back-to-back years as
• 52:22
  an old pro player. He was the best corner
• 52:24
  statistically in the NFL for those two years and then last
• 52:28
  year he was second. I PFS says he was He was the
• 52:31
  second best corner in the league in my eyes, in Errol's eyes, in
• 52:35
  the Marx view, he was horrible. He was putrid, terrible.
• 52:40
  You show up in the big game and you stop teams as good as Josh
• 52:44
  Allen in the Buffalo Bills, and he didn't show up.
• 52:47
  Intercept that goddamn ball. You suck Sauce.
• 52:51
  The only sauce I'm going to be eating is the chicken sauce that
• 52:55
  I'm going to have on my fries with my honey mustard.
• 52:58
  Yeah, and last year, obviously you were talking about it with
• 53:00
  with the Giants before. Like last year the the team just
• 53:03
  gave up on Robert Sala. They quit on him.
• 53:05
  Like there was a lack of effort. Like, I think a lot of what
• 53:07
  sauces issues were last year. Obviously, there was a
• 53:09
  mysterious injury in Week 1 against the 49ers.
• 53:12
  Is that the excuse now? No, no, I'm mysterious injury
• 53:15
  that he had No. No, no, I'm not saying.
• 53:16
  I'm not saying it's the only reason.
• 53:17
  I think it was mostly. Like, how about staying off of
• 53:19
  those Buffalo Wild Wing commercials?
• 53:21
  I don't want to see his face. I don't want to know who's
• 53:23
  dating. He's dating this rap star in the
• 53:25
  offseason. What is her spicy Q?
• 53:28
  Whatever her name is, I don't. Spicy are you talking?
• 53:30
  Are you talking about a beat up sauce or his girlfriend?
• 53:33
  I'm talking about ice spice, Ice spice, whatever.
• 53:35
  The ice spice. Yeah, her name, whatever the.
• 53:38
  Spice Girls. That's about it.
• 53:40
  I don't care who's dating I. Like Buffalo wild ice, Buffalo
• 53:43
  spice. That's like a wheel of fortune.
• 53:45
  Like. What a name and after he's
• 53:47
  dating a girl named Spice and his name is sauce perfect spicy
• 53:51
  sauce. They're they're a bunch of
• 53:52
  idiots. OK, I didn't care who he was
• 53:54
  dating. All I heard in the offseason
• 53:57
  just who he's dating and you see pictures of her.
• 53:59
  I could careless who he's dating and I know Miss Spice is best
• 54:02
  friends with Taylor Swift. Who cares?
• 54:04
  Do you think they make spicy sauce?
• 54:06
  No pun intended. Probably probably making it
• 54:09
  right now with Buffalo Wild Wings.
• 54:11
  The piece of you know what I. I've given him ideas.
• 54:15
  Here's what I'm going to give as a Jet fan if I keep continuing.
• 54:19
  Watch Sauce Garner go out there week by week and not show up and
• 54:23
  not do the things that we're paying him for, then trade him.
• 54:26
  I don't care what anybody says. Oh, he's impossible to fill.
• 54:29
  He's not. He's he's, he's just as good as
• 54:32
  Patrick Surtain. Here's what Patrick Surtain
• 54:34
  does, except this past week. Patrick Satan shows up in the
• 54:38
  big game. When he needs to shut down
• 54:40
  teams, he shuts him down. Tell me the last time you
• 54:44
  remember Sauce Garner shutting down a wide wide receiver,
• 54:46
  Because last year he didn't shut down a wide receiver, and this
• 54:49
  year he hasn't shut down a wide receiver either.
• 54:52
  So he's making a lot of money for a guy that to me last year
• 54:56
  was an absolute bust. And you're talking about Garrett
• 54:59
  Wilson too, was another one that I think when you be able to game
• 55:02
  plan against these good teams, like like you said, Buffalo has
• 55:04
  some good corners, but they're nothing like special
• 55:06
  collectively. It's not like they had
• 55:07
  Tradavious White when he was at his peak and was one of the five
• 55:10
  best corners in football early in his career.
• 55:12
  Like they don't have that kind of guy.
• 55:14
  Benford's decent, Russell Douglas, probably a low end
• 55:16
  number one guy. But when teams game plan for
• 55:18
  Garrett Wilson and The Jets don't have a Plan B, it's very
• 55:20
  hard for them to do that. Like you said, they're not a
• 55:22
  team that's built to come from behind like this because they
• 55:24
  don't have the depth in their passing game.
• 55:26
  They have Breece Hall catching the next most passes and he only
• 55:28
  caught 2. Like it's not really an identity
• 55:30
  built for that. Obviously Fields got hurt, so
• 55:32
  we'll never know, but even with Fields?
• 55:33
  Healthy. They were never winning.
• 55:34
  They were not going to win that game.
• 55:35
  They were never winning that game.
• 55:37
  They weren't winning that game, but I wouldn't be worried about
• 55:40
  Sauce Gardner. I would be worried about Justin
• 55:42
  Fields because everything that I listen to and I haven't seen the
• 55:46
  All 22 film or anything like that just yet.
• 55:49
  I usually try to go see them on early on Wednesday, see what
• 55:52
  people said on Tuesday about it when he gets out.
• 55:54
  But everything I heard is Justin Fields missed many, many open
• 55:58
  guys on many, many plays in this game, which has been his MO his
• 56:03
  entire career. And when Tyrod Taylor got in, it
• 56:05
  was better. And I wouldn't be surprised that
• 56:08
  within a few weeks, Tyrod Taylor's a starting quarterback
• 56:11
  of The Jets because Justin Fields is just not an NFL
• 56:14
  player. And it's unfortunate because he
• 56:16
  is a super athlete and a super talent.
• 56:18
  But you get a good defensive coordinator who knows how to set
• 56:21
  the defensive line to prevent you from down blocking or can
• 56:25
  attack your defensive line in a way that it neutralizes your
• 56:28
  best player, like when Williams, and then forces your young guys
• 56:31
  to play the run instead of pass rush like they did because they
• 56:33
  didn't throw the ball. Josh Allen had like 21 passes
• 56:36
  the whole game. Killed my fantasy team this week
• 56:39
  and I have Josh Allen. He did nothing.
• 56:41
  Khalil Shakur did nothing. You'll see.
• 56:43
  And save your tears. I.
• 56:43
  Can't. Well, he didn't.
• 56:44
  He didn't really have to. Though they but that's the
• 56:46
  point, they why would you even bother doing that against the
• 56:50
  team that can't stop you when you just run the ball and that's
• 56:55
  and they control the possession and Justin Fields couldn't get a
• 56:58
  single drive going the entire game.
• 57:00
  That's a problem that you cannot come back from.
• 57:03
  He might not be long for the starting quarterback position,
• 57:06
  even though Tyrod Taylor isn't exactly going to set the world
• 57:09
  on fire if he's in there. That's what I worry about.
• 57:13
  I I think that might be the real thing right now with The Jets.
• 57:15
  That's the big problem. Sauce Gardner is going to be a
• 57:18
  little up and down, unless like they're in it, I guess he's I
• 57:20
  think. He's but how long of a how long
• 57:22
  of a leash are you going to give fields?
• 57:24
  I look if he play if if I if what I suspect.
• 57:27
  He played well in game one. I I mean he had a bad game.
• 57:30
  But again, how good is Pittsburgh?
• 57:31
  Pittsburgh's might not be good at all, you know, and that's the
• 57:35
  thing. And he had some revenge to get
• 57:37
  on Pittsburgh because he knows them better than most teams
• 57:39
  because he was there last year. So I I just worry that if we see
• 57:43
  this and he's going to miss next week, probably he comes back now
• 57:47
  he's out of rhythm on top of it. It's going to be a problem.
• 57:50
  They need to run the ball with him and if they can't figure out
• 57:53
  how to run the ball with him, they're not going to be able to
• 57:55
  set up the pass. And Buffalo didn't give him a
• 57:56
  shot at in hell at running the ball with him.
• 57:59
  They. You want, you want your star
• 58:02
  players to show up in the big parts of the game and they just
• 58:05
  don't. And I'm sorry, there's no excuse
• 58:08
  to that. And I'm not blaming Aaron Glenn
• 58:10
  for this because again, he's a rookie coach and he's still
• 58:12
  trying to get, he's trying to figure out his team and the
• 58:14
  strengths and the weaknesses of his team.
• 58:17
  But right now, what I've seen, there's nothing that really
• 58:21
  sticks out to me to say, Oh my God, this team is going to be
• 58:25
  great next year. This team is missing one or two
• 58:28
  pieces where they're going to be as competitive as Buffalo Bills.
• 58:32
  You had a chance to prove on CBS and and a chance to do it on
• 58:36
  your own turf and you laid up a lousy goose egg and and they had
• 58:40
  a chance when they needed a transition.
• 58:43
  All source needed to do was intercept that ball in the first
• 58:45
  quarter when they were down 10 to nothing.
• 58:47
  If he intercepts that ball, maybe he runs to the 50, they
• 58:50
  get a field goal and they cut it down to 2:50 and maybe it's a
• 58:54
  different game or maybe they score a touchdown.
• 58:57
  It was just how do you how do you go up for a ball and it just
• 59:00
  goes through your hands? It just it's, it's embarrassing.
• 59:03
  You're making that kind of money.
• 59:04
  You have to make the play. You have to make those plays,
• 59:08
  and he didn't. Yeah, I think also when you look
• 59:11
  at somebody like the market for Gardner too, like we've seen him
• 59:14
  like lose confidence in his own game at certain points and it
• 59:17
  just tails, tailspins after that.
• 59:20
  And they can't. The Jets players can't have them
• 59:22
  do that like it did last. Year Adam Schefner reports that
• 59:25
  Joe Burrow will be getting surgery on his toe in the next
• 59:31
  next week and he might be out at least three months.
• 59:34
  Burroughs suffered a turf toe injury during the second quarter
• 59:38
  of their match up against the Jaguars.
• 59:41
  Jake Browning took over for Burrough and had 241 passing
• 59:45
  yards, 2 touchdowns and three interceptions in the game, but
• 59:49
  was able to help the Bengals defeat the lonely Jaguars 31 to
• 59:53
  27. Browning ran the ball in front
• 59:57
  in from a yard out from 19 seconds remaining for the win.
• 1:00:02
  Zach Taylor says that the. Earliest Burrow could return is
• 1:00:06
  in the middle of December. This is Burroughs 6th injury
• 1:00:10
  since being drafted or by the Bengals in 2020 and he has
• 1:00:16
  missed 17 total games in that span.
• 1:00:20
  Jamar Chase had 14 catches for 165 yards and a touchdown in the
• 1:00:25
  win over Jacksonville Wall. T Higgins had three catches for
• 1:00:29
  56 yards and a touchdown. Burrow had 4918 yards last year,
• 1:00:35
  43 touchdowns, which led the NFL.
• 1:00:38
  Here's the thing, guys. Joe Burrow, if you look at his
• 1:00:42
  career, he's been in the league for how many years?
• 1:00:43
  Five years now, right? It's been five years.
• 1:00:46
  His first year, he goes down, he tears his ACL.
• 1:00:49
  The second year comes back, wins comeback player of the year.
• 1:00:53
  The next year, he goes down again.
• 1:00:55
  He hurts his finger and he comes back and he he wins comeback
• 1:00:59
  player of the year again, has one of the great seasons we've
• 1:01:02
  seen a quarterback have in the last 10 years.
• 1:01:05
  And now this year, another year where he goes down with turf toe
• 1:01:10
  and he could be out a significant amount of time,
• 1:01:12
  could be out even longer than what they are saying, even
• 1:01:14
  longer than Zach Taylor is saying.
• 1:01:16
  This is this is Zach Taylor is on the hot seat.
• 1:01:20
  Zach Taylor is in a position now that he needs to win.
• 1:01:23
  He needs to get this team in the playoffs to compete for a Super
• 1:01:26
  Bowl because Zach Taylor has not been in a Super Bowl now for
• 1:01:31
  almost three years. Three years with a team.
• 1:01:34
  We had Jamar Chase winning rookie offensive rookie of the
• 1:01:37
  year and Joe Burrow just absolutely being a world beater
• 1:01:42
  against the Kansas City Chiefs. Remember that in Kansas City,
• 1:01:47
  how many play? How many quarterbacks beat
• 1:01:49
  Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City? Joe Burrows, only one.
• 1:01:54
  I think Tom Brady was another. Nobody really beats Patrick
• 1:01:59
  Mahomes at home. And by the way, Jayla Hurts did
• 1:02:02
  it yesterday. But the fact is, Joe Burrow is
• 1:02:08
  everything to this team. Joe Burrow wanted T Higgins to
• 1:02:10
  be signed and he got his big contract.
• 1:02:13
  Jamar Chase wanted his big contract.
• 1:02:15
  Joe Burrow put his hand out and make sure that they got paid.
• 1:02:18
  And Trey Hendrickson, even though he got an extension, A1
• 1:02:21
  year extension, he did not get paid because he's a defensive
• 1:02:24
  player. And Joe Burrow wanted to make
• 1:02:26
  sure his guys were paid before the defensive players.
• 1:02:29
  And now Joe Burrow goes down, you're going to trust and Jake
• 1:02:33
  Browning, you're going to trust that Jake Browning is going to
• 1:02:36
  take this team to the promised land.
• 1:02:37
  What are you nuts? Let's be honest here.
• 1:02:41
  This isn't Jake Browning to me is a competent quarterback, but
• 1:02:45
  he's no better than Shador Sanders.
• 1:02:48
  I'm I'm just Speaking of maybe a little bit better.
• 1:02:50
  OK, maybe I'm not. I'm not going to put Browning
• 1:02:53
  down because I think Shador stinks, but he might be a little
• 1:02:56
  bit better than Shador Sanders. He is not a competent backup
• 1:03:00
  quarterback. He's just not.
• 1:03:01
  He threw 3 interceptions in a game.
• 1:03:03
  He also has Jamar Chase and D Higgins, and remember last week
• 1:03:08
  those guys didn't show up in the game.
• 1:03:09
  Neither did Joe Burrow against a defense that absolutely dominate
• 1:03:13
  and they still won the game last week against the lonely Browns.
• 1:03:17
  The fact is here, without Joe Burrow, is this team a playoff
• 1:03:22
  team. And the answer would be no,
• 1:03:24
  they're not They're not. This defense is not good, and if
• 1:03:29
  you're going to trust that Browning is going to outlast and
• 1:03:32
  take this team all the way into December to be a playoff team
• 1:03:36
  when you have Pittsburgh in the same division, you have
• 1:03:38
  Baltimore. Browns suck, but you have
• 1:03:41
  Pittsburgh and Baltimore fighting and it's a divisional
• 1:03:44
  game is not easy. As we all know.
• 1:03:46
  It wasn't easy for you guys to beat the Browns.
• 1:03:48
  You beat them by one. That to me is a problem and
• 1:03:52
  that's why I brought up Russell Wilson.
• 1:03:54
  Maybe Cousins, you're going to have to look for a competent
• 1:04:01
  quarterback if you if you're Zach Taylor.
• 1:04:04
  Right now, I'm worried. I'm worried I can't sit here and
• 1:04:08
  believe that if my team chokes and doesn't make the playoffs,
• 1:04:11
  that ownership is going to keep me there, that the GM is going
• 1:04:13
  to keep me there. This is another season where my
• 1:04:16
  team doesn't make the playoffs. That's a problem, Gable.
• 1:04:23
  We've said it, Dable's on a hot seat.
• 1:04:24
  Zach Taylor's on a hot seat. A lot of these well known
• 1:04:27
  coaches are on the hot seat. Why?
• 1:04:30
  Because they haven't produced. And when your start quarterback,
• 1:04:33
  your best player is at a significant amount of time and
• 1:04:36
  every other year he can't stay healthy.
• 1:04:38
  That ladies and gentlemen tells me is an injury prone
• 1:04:41
  quarterback. And we've seen this before.
• 1:04:44
  This isn't the first time we've seen a quarterback, a successful
• 1:04:46
  quarterback in the NFL, go down every other year.
• 1:04:51
  There are quarterbacks that have done it good, ones that could
• 1:04:53
  never be healthy enough to be a Hall of Fame quarterback.
• 1:04:57
  Now, I'm not saying Joe Burrow is in a Hall of Fame
• 1:04:59
  quarterback. He still could be.
• 1:05:01
  He still has a lot, a lot of time to go and he has a lot more
• 1:05:05
  to prove himself to be a Hall of Fame quarterback.
• 1:05:09
  But guess what? If 33 you're playing five years
• 1:05:14
  in the NFL and two out of the three years you have not been
• 1:05:17
  healthy or three out of the five years you haven't been healthy,
• 1:05:21
  that's a problem guys. And this is not a good sign for
• 1:05:24
  the the Bengals, a team that I thought had a chance to win the
• 1:05:28
  division because Baltimore, I don't know what what Baltimore
• 1:05:31
  we're going to see this year. They they have weapons.
• 1:05:34
  We all know what Lamar Jackson could do.
• 1:05:36
  We all know that they have some weapons in Henry and Zay
• 1:05:39
  Flowers. But and the defense is really,
• 1:05:41
  really good. But is the defense as good as
• 1:05:43
  they were last year? I don't know, but I do know is
• 1:05:48
  that the Bengals, even with the Hendrickson situation,
• 1:05:52
  Hendrickson is on a team, the defense actually is still
• 1:05:55
  playing well and they're not. If they can't produce, they
• 1:05:59
  can't put up a 30 spot week in and week out when you're going
• 1:06:02
  to be playing good defenses and and good offenses that are going
• 1:06:06
  to be able to compete with you, how are you going to win those
• 1:06:08
  close games? And I'm going to tell you this
• 1:06:10
  right now, this could be the biggest downer for a coach to
• 1:06:15
  deal with at the end of the season because I'm going to tell
• 1:06:18
  you this right now, Taylor is, I wouldn't say he's a good coach,
• 1:06:21
  but he's not a bad coach. This could be his downfall.
• 1:06:24
  When we go back and we we look at Taylor's, you know, time over
• 1:06:28
  there with Joe Burrow, we're going to say, well, three out of
• 1:06:31
  the five years Joe Burrow wasn't healthy.
• 1:06:33
  Are we going to blame it on Zach Taylor?
• 1:06:34
  We're going to blame it on the injury prone Joe Burrow.
• 1:06:37
  And that, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be the problem.
• 1:06:39
  I think they absolutely have to go up in the trade market.
• 1:06:43
  Look at Kirk Cousins, look at Russell Wilson, look at a
• 1:06:47
  veteran quarterback to bring in. You cannot trust that Jake
• 1:06:50
  Browning is going to take you to the promised land.
• 1:06:51
  No, and you look at even the end of the year when Burrow got hurt
• 1:06:54
  two years ago, Jake Browning was good enough to win certain
• 1:06:57
  games, but it wasn't like he was lighting the world on fire.
• 1:07:00
  It wasn't like he was like you were saying T Higgins numbers
• 1:07:03
  dropped off pretty badly. I think besides that Vikings
• 1:07:05
  game where they he had that insane catch, like his numbers
• 1:07:08
  dropped off badly. Chase's numbers were kind of
• 1:07:10
  fluctuating towards the end of the year in 2023.
• 1:07:12
  Now they still almost made the playoffs, which I think is maybe
• 1:07:14
  why Zach Taylor, I guess has enough confidence in Browning at
• 1:07:17
  the time being. But right now they're two and O
• 1:07:19
  fine. But like you said, they haven't
• 1:07:21
  played well against two teams that aren't great.
• 1:07:22
  The Browns are terrible and the Jaguars are very average.
• 1:07:25
  Like you squeaked by those two games.
• 1:07:27
  You still have a lot of tough schedule coming up.
• 1:07:29
  You have to play other AFC East teams.
• 1:07:30
  You're going to have to play your own division and you're
• 1:07:32
  going to play the NFC North. That's a really big gauntlet for
• 1:07:35
  them. I had them in the playoffs at
• 1:07:37
  the start of the year as a wild card team.
• 1:07:38
  But if they're not going to get any level of competent offense,
• 1:07:42
  it's going to be very hard for that defense.
• 1:07:43
  It was terrible last year to make adjustments.
• 1:07:46
  And you mentioned who's to blame for all these injuries with Joe
• 1:07:48
  Burrow, obviously, I think the one his first year, it was in
• 1:07:50
  Washington, which is what we know is a really bad field.
• 1:07:52
  I think the 1-2 years ago was was on Zach Taylor.
• 1:07:55
  They're having him sneak the ball more often, hold the ball
• 1:07:58
  more often. And his red zone play calling is
• 1:08:00
  very questionable, which has gotten him into a lot of
• 1:08:02
  trouble. And the analogy, I think, I
• 1:08:05
  guess our host of our show, Trey Larkins a while back with Wise
• 1:08:09
  Guys was making. They don't have a running game.
• 1:08:11
  Speedy Chase Brown. I'm not trusting Chase Brown as
• 1:08:13
  my number one guy. And I've said that.
• 1:08:15
  Everybody said he was a top 20 in every fantasy draft.
• 1:08:19
  Chase Brown is not a number one guy.
• 1:08:21
  He's a number two guy. They don't have a running game.
• 1:08:23
  Now, if you had a Derrick Henry or you had a Saquon Barkley, you
• 1:08:26
  can probably go without a quarterback, a star quarterback
• 1:08:30
  for at least till December. You don't have that and now you
• 1:08:33
  have nobody that can get them the ball.
• 1:08:35
  And it may be Brownie could get, you know, guys like Jamar Chase
• 1:08:39
  and and maybe Higgins the ball, but you're also going to throw
• 1:08:42
  interceptions. So he threw 2 intercept.
• 1:08:45
  He threw 2 touchdowns to three interceptions.
• 1:08:47
  That's not going to get it done. Now and you also look at like
• 1:08:50
  trying to have it balanced it out so Burrow doesn't have to
• 1:08:52
  take as many hits either. And Chase Brown obviously had
• 1:08:54
  the big year last year and was a top 10 running back performance
• 1:08:57
  wise. But as a pure runner, he has
• 1:08:59
  some limitations because he's undersized and the offensive
• 1:09:01
  line is obviously had issues. But like I said, I think it's
• 1:09:03
  also more Zach Taylor putting Joe Burrow in harm's way.
• 1:09:07
  And that's the analogy I was trying to make before.
• 1:09:08
  Like is Joe Burrow another Andrew Luck type?
• 1:09:10
  Are they are they going to ruin him like Andrew Luck's ruining
• 1:09:13
  with the Colts? And I think a lot of that has to
• 1:09:14
  do with coaching. And that's why I think Zach
• 1:09:16
  Taylor is definitely, I think even if they make the playoffs
• 1:09:19
  and. No, I think if they make the
• 1:09:20
  playoffs, Joe Burrow has all the say in who's the coach and him
• 1:09:25
  and Zach are like brothers and, and we've heard a guy like Joe
• 1:09:30
  Burrow come out and say that Zach's done a good job.
• 1:09:32
  The only reason why we haven't been consistent is because of my
• 1:09:35
  injury, injuries and the the injury prone player that I've
• 1:09:38
  become over the last couple of years.
• 1:09:39
  And he left. If you watched the Netflix
• 1:09:42
  quarterback, what what is that documentary, documentary.
• 1:09:46
  Whatever the QB 1, whatever QB 2, whatever the hell they called
• 1:09:49
  it. He came out and said this isn't
• 1:09:51
  Zach Taylor's fault on why we haven't been consistent enough
• 1:09:54
  in the playoffs and making the playoffs.
• 1:09:56
  It's because of my injuries. So I, I, I, I disagree with you.
• 1:10:00
  If Zach Taylor gets in the playoffs, he still has a job.
• 1:10:03
  Yeah, again. More of the quality of play too.
• 1:10:05
  Like I think them squeaking in at 9 and 8 is not really
• 1:10:07
  anything like to the right home on either.
• 1:10:09
  And like you said, this is a team that beaten the Chiefs in
• 1:10:11
  the playoffs, taking a big leap when it comes to like being a
• 1:10:15
  contender and then all of a sudden you're going to fall back
• 1:10:17
  to mediocrity. I don't really trust it.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah, no, I I've always like for me, I've obviously followed Zach
• 1:10:25
  because we're all together and you know Ruth for him and
• 1:10:27
  obviously Burroughs family from Nebraska.
• 1:10:30
  But I I think you're right a little bit.
• 1:10:32
  He he he does get bailed out there.
• 1:10:35
  Appreciate that because I was on the same wavelength.
• 1:10:38
  But what's tough too is when when guys become labeled injury
• 1:10:42
  prone, it just sucks because sometimes it's it's a bad deal.
• 1:10:46
  Like, you know, you don't draw it up like this.
• 1:10:48
  I mean, you know, sometimes too, the last few years been here to
• 1:10:52
  ran into a fence, another toe, another toe job.
• 1:10:55
  Yeah, but that one. So yeah, when you get labeled,
• 1:11:00
  when you get labeled that it it sucks, but I think they they
• 1:11:03
  have getting bail and I think you got a guy like Joe who
• 1:11:07
  definitely does what they can do as far as like who's there and
• 1:11:11
  who isn't. But yeah, Zach's butts burning a
• 1:11:14
  little bit and he knows that too.
• 1:11:16
  I mean, he, he understands that he, he doesn't, you know, look
• 1:11:20
  beyond what it is and knows he needs to get back to where they
• 1:11:24
  can. And, you know, I think this
• 1:11:27
  doesn't help. In which direction do they go is
• 1:11:31
  going to be the question that maybe either bails them out or
• 1:11:34
  puts them underwater. Browning.
• 1:11:37
  Browning is played a lot because Burrows been out a lot over the
• 1:11:41
  years, so it's not like you have an inexperienced guy.
• 1:11:44
  So he's obviously not Joe Burrow, though it's a problem
• 1:11:48
  for that team. A Washington product.
• 1:11:51
  Well, whatever product he is, he certainly isn't Joe Burrow, who
• 1:11:56
  was arguably, you know, you could say, I mean, Errol, you
• 1:11:59
  said it, he might have been the best quarterback in the league
• 1:12:01
  last year. He had to do the most, didn't
• 1:12:03
  he? He had to do the most work
• 1:12:05
  because the defense was atrocious.
• 1:12:07
  So he had the most put on his shoulders and he came through.
• 1:12:11
  So you, I mean, a lot of people would say he could be an
• 1:12:13
  offensive player of the year type the way he plays every
• 1:12:16
  year, but they can't keep him healthy every year that he's
• 1:12:20
  played in the league. You're not going to believe
• 1:12:21
  this, Errol, They've never ranked above 28th, 28th in
• 1:12:27
  offensive line every year. Last year they were the worst in
• 1:12:31
  a league. This year that I think they're
• 1:12:33
  like 20. Well, they say.
• 1:12:35
  They say that Joe Burrow has the fastest release right now in the
• 1:12:38
  NFL. He absolutely has to because
• 1:12:41
  they can't block for him at all. And what are you thinking?
• 1:12:44
  Like to me and like the Giants make these mistakes all the
• 1:12:48
  time, but the but the Bengals mistake paying T Higgins, who
• 1:12:51
  look good receiver. No one's saying he's not a good
• 1:12:54
  player, right? But if you pay that guy like
• 1:12:57
  he's a #1 receiver when you already have a #1 receiver, then
• 1:13:01
  how that that means you don't get to pay a left tackle, That
• 1:13:05
  means you don't get to pay maybe a center and a guard.
• 1:13:09
  You could have a line that could protect this guy as opposed to
• 1:13:14
  he's being pulled down at weird angles all the time, having to
• 1:13:18
  get rid of the ball as fast as he can, having to not be able to
• 1:13:21
  use, you know, Chase as well as he probably could be used if he
• 1:13:24
  had more time to let routes develop.
• 1:13:26
  Just imagine Chase is this good and they don't have time to let
• 1:13:30
  the routes develop. That was always the criticism
• 1:13:32
  with Daniel Jones in New York that, you know, the routes don't
• 1:13:34
  develop so he doesn't have time to throw it.
• 1:13:36
  He was probably right. That line was terrible.
• 1:13:39
  Joe Burrow was still able to make things happen even with
• 1:13:41
  that line, but he's always getting hurt because of that.
• 1:13:44
  It's like the GM is the biggest idiot in this whole situation.
• 1:13:49
  Stop spending on the shiny pieces and protect the most
• 1:13:53
  important piece and they never do it.
• 1:13:55
  It's crazy. It's crazy, man.
• 1:13:58
  Well, again, Joe Burrow has an opportunity to get back before
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  the seasons end. They have to bring in a
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  quarterback. They have to go after a veteran
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  guy. I don't care what you have to
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  give up for Kirk Cousins. If you think you're a playoff
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  team and you're going to be able to compete for a championship,
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  well, then you give up a third or a fourth round draft pick for
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  Kirk Cousins. You have to do whatever it takes
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  to make sure that you'll be ready when Joe Burrow comes
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  back, that you can sneak into the playoffs or even win your
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  division. Because as good as Lamar Jackson
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  is in the Baltimore Ravens are, the Bengals still have the
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  weapons to be able to compete with those Baltimore Raven
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  teams. They just have to have a guy
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  that can get on the ball. And if they have the guy and
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  they need a running game too, they need to figure out where
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  they go in free agency or, or I'm not in free agency.
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  Maybe somebody has dropped, maybe released or bring in a
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  veteran guy that hasn't hasn't stepped on a football field yet
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  this year or was on a preseason roster and was waved.
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  They have to bring somebody else.
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  Chase Brown is not the answer. He's just not.
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  You were talking about the Jaguars before you used to play
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