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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. Hi, everyone,
- 0:09Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about
- 0:13Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My
- 0:16Speaker 1: guests today are the creative force involved in an incredible
- 0:19Speaker 1: documentary that impacts us, all about the importance of regenerative
- 0:24Speaker 1: farming that affects the food we all eat, and the
- 0:27Speaker 1: health and longevity of our beautiful planet. You have to
- 0:31Speaker 1: check out their documentaries Kiss the Ground and Common Ground,
- 0:34Speaker 1: out now on Amazon. Please welcome Ian Summerholder and Rebecca
- 0:39Speaker 1: Tickle to the podcast. I'm so excited to talk to
- 0:41Speaker 1: you about this because I'm really also very passionate about
- 0:45Speaker 1: the earth and nature and sustainability.
- 0:47Speaker 2: And pushing and pushing and pushing to.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Try and do better and be better and stay healthy
- 0:53Speaker 1: and longevity and everything. It's you know, it's all for me.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a good connection.
- 1:00Speaker 3: They're all inextricably linked, right, They're all inextricably linked.
- 1:05Speaker 4: I think, as you're talking to think, this is like
- 1:07Speaker 4: the opposite of the circle of profit that we talk about.
- 1:10Speaker 4: Like the bear like bear makes the poison to kill
- 1:13Speaker 4: the pests, but then they also make the medicine to
- 1:16Speaker 4: cure the disease that's caused from exposure to the poison
- 1:18Speaker 4: that kills the pest. That's like this degenerative loop of
- 1:21Speaker 4: cycle of profit. But what you're doing is the opposite
- 1:24Speaker 4: of that. You're spreading the message of regeneration, and then
- 1:27Speaker 4: you're also spreading the message of like self health. Regeneration's like,
- 1:31Speaker 4: that's a cycle of profit, that's regenerative, that's a.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Great within the human body.
- 1:36Speaker 5: And so it's using the same model but turning in
- 1:39Speaker 5: on its head for wellness and regeneration.
- 1:43Speaker 3: And then our families grow as a result.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and they grow healthy, which is which is not
- 1:47Speaker 2: easy to do in this date.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Healthy families create healthy streets that create healthy neighborhoods, create
- 1:52Speaker 3: healthy towns, communities. It's crazy.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Well, on this podcast we talk all about choices, and
- 1:59Speaker 1: there is one choice that we all make collectively, every
- 2:03Speaker 1: single one of us, every.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Single day, several times a day.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Is the food we eat. And your documentary, Common Ground,
- 2:12Speaker 1: is an all encompassing documentary and it talks about how
- 2:18Speaker 1: to get that healthy food and so much more. Can
- 2:20Speaker 1: you just tell us about Common Ground?
- 2:23Speaker 3: Tell us, sister.
- 2:24Speaker 5: Common Ground is environmental documentary that is a hopeful, uplifting,
- 2:29Speaker 5: inspirational film about how we can save the future of humanity.
- 2:34Speaker 5: It shows how we can fix our climate. It shows
- 2:37Speaker 5: how we can create a trillion dollar industry of regeneration
- 2:39Speaker 5: that's our future, and it shows how each one of
- 2:42Speaker 5: us can get involved and what that pathway is. It
- 2:44Speaker 5: really sparks a shift from that paralysis in the climate
- 2:50Speaker 5: anxiety that we're all feeling. And then suddenly when you
- 2:53Speaker 5: see that pathway, it spurs you into action because you
- 2:56Speaker 5: realize that we have a window of time where we
- 2:58Speaker 5: can course correct and turn this whole thing around. And
- 3:01Speaker 5: that's what Common Ground shows us. And it's the follow
- 3:04Speaker 5: up film to the Predecessor Kiss the Ground and Kiss
- 3:08Speaker 5: the Ground came out in twenty twenty on Netflix. It's
- 3:10Speaker 5: been a huge global success. It's King Charles's favorite movie.
- 3:15Speaker 3: We touched a billion people.
- 3:16Speaker 5: Ian's in the film. He actually started shooting that back
- 3:18Speaker 5: in twenty eleven, and then we started filming and we
- 3:22Speaker 5: started in twenty thirteen, and then we synced up after
- 3:24Speaker 5: the fact, only to discover that we were all working
- 3:26Speaker 5: on the same stuff, or on the same issue. With
- 3:28Speaker 5: Alan Savory and regeneration and we were learning like the
- 3:30Speaker 5: same sort of niche information about soil and the sort
- 3:34Speaker 5: of magic of soil to sequester all of the carbon
- 3:37Speaker 5: that we've emitted. I mean, there's more life and healthy
- 3:39Speaker 5: soil than there are stars in the universe. And so
- 3:42Speaker 5: when you start to think about the power of life
- 3:45Speaker 5: that's generated and that soil, you suddenly want to start
- 3:48Speaker 5: taking care of it because it means the sustainability of
- 3:51Speaker 5: life for humans and all living things, and it can
- 3:53Speaker 5: be done in any ecosystem and we.
- 3:55Speaker 6: All have a role to play.
- 3:56Speaker 5: So today Earth Day, Happy Earth Day, Verny. These films
- 4:00Speaker 5: have just been launched. Case the Ground is being relaunched
- 4:03Speaker 5: to the director's cut with our indigenous people's section. Wonderful
- 4:07Speaker 5: and and Common Ground are now they're Amazon Originals, which
- 4:12Speaker 5: is phenomenal, and they're now globally available to stream in
- 4:16Speaker 5: every country and in most languages. And it's been a
- 4:21Speaker 5: fourteen year journey for us to get to this point.
- 4:23Speaker 3: For fourteen years.
- 4:25Speaker 5: And by the way, I know you're like, oh gosh,
- 4:28Speaker 5: a soil movie that sounds.
- 4:29Speaker 6: Dull as dirt dirt, but it's got.
- 4:33Speaker 5: And it has Jason, his buddy Jason, and has daw.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Jason.
- 4:40Speaker 6: They all make the soil so sex And.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Why did you do work about that?
- 4:46Speaker 1: Why was it so important to you to be a
- 4:49Speaker 1: part of this, to jump in and be such a leader.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I grew up on the very delicate ecosystem in the
- 4:55Speaker 3: buyers of Louisiana, and we grew up super poor. We
- 4:58Speaker 3: had nothing, but we had everything because we lived off
- 5:00Speaker 3: of all the bounty of the lakes, the rivers, the bayous,
- 5:06Speaker 3: the sky, the land of my grandparents. My mom's side
- 5:09Speaker 3: were Mississippi redneck farmers and my dad's side was Cajun.
- 5:14Speaker 3: And so that amazing balance of my dad taught me
- 5:16Speaker 3: the balance of wetlands and what it means when there's
- 5:19Speaker 3: an imbalance when you take more than you put back.
- 5:22Speaker 3: That imbalance throws off the entire ecosystem, and the only
- 5:26Speaker 3: creatures that lose are us. All of a sudden, you
- 5:31Speaker 3: can't sustain life anymore. Right, same on the farm, my
- 5:35Speaker 3: grandparents always taught us. My grandfather was like an agricultural inventor.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Fortunately never patented any of this shit. I'm so curious,
- 5:45Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. In the forties, he so he built
- 5:47Speaker 3: a mold and he started drying out bull and calmanure,
- 5:53Speaker 3: and he was the one that made the first in
- 5:56Speaker 3: the thirties. Actually the little pots made of manure that
- 5:59Speaker 3: you german eight seeds in and grow them.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like the biodegrade into their arca.
- 6:04Speaker 3: He created those.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Wow.
- 6:06Speaker 3: He made the mold forward and the whole thing, and
- 6:08Speaker 3: he made thousands of thousands of thousands of them.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Those are still being used today.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I know, I wish, I wish our family had a
- 6:13Speaker 3: patent on that from years ago. But the idea was
- 6:17Speaker 3: is that we both grew up and Josh and I
- 6:19Speaker 3: went to the same high school in Mandeville, Louisiana.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Wow.
- 6:23Speaker 5: And Josh is my directing, producing partner, writing partner.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So it's this powerhouse couple who built these
- 6:30Speaker 3: films and then these amazing inner circles that came together.
- 6:36Speaker 3: We've been waiting on this moment for fourteen years. So
- 6:39Speaker 3: I learned from the farming side of it, how these
- 6:43Speaker 3: farms regenerate and how all systems work off of one another.
- 6:46Speaker 3: That's what my grandfather taught me, and then my dad
- 6:48Speaker 3: taught and my mom and then my dad taught me
- 6:50Speaker 3: on the other side, which is the delicate balance of nature.
- 6:54Speaker 3: But from the landscape are the lens I guess you
- 6:56Speaker 3: could say of wetlands, because that system is extremely delicate
- 7:02Speaker 3: in its balance. Those types of things inform who we become,
- 7:07Speaker 3: and that's how we found ourselves here. I met Alan
- 7:11Speaker 3: Savory when I spoke at Stages and Scientists that I
- 7:15Speaker 3: want to say it was the end of twenty ten.
- 7:18Speaker 3: So Alan Savory is this man. You can look him up.
- 7:20Speaker 3: He's basically like the godfather of soil. He was and
- 7:25Speaker 3: he was this very famous political figure. He's the one
- 7:28Speaker 3: that led the Basically he's the one that led the
- 7:32Speaker 3: revolution and maintained power in what rose Rhodesia into Zimbabwe.
- 7:38Speaker 3: He was the transition of that. So he was like
- 7:42Speaker 3: exiled by Mugabe. Like this man was an unbelievable He
- 7:46Speaker 3: basically built the most famous the first real guerrilla warfare
- 7:50Speaker 3: outfit was Alan. But he's also the most amazing soil scientist.
- 7:55Speaker 3: And in nineteen seventy three he ran the numbers. He
- 7:58Speaker 3: was looking at agricol trual practices globally and thinking, by
- 8:02Speaker 3: about the turn of the twenty first century, our soils
- 8:06Speaker 3: globally are going to be so degraded that we're going
- 8:08Speaker 3: to be basically looking at an extinction event by basically
- 8:12Speaker 3: causing large scale global desertification, which is exactly what happened.
- 8:19Speaker 3: I met him at the symposium that Deep Bac Troper
- 8:21Speaker 3: used to put on called Sagans and Scientists, and I
- 8:23Speaker 3: spoke at it. It's like a four hundred person ted talk,
- 8:27Speaker 3: and it was so intimidating because I was there talking
- 8:30Speaker 3: about the relationship as how the world and our bodies
- 8:34Speaker 3: are basically the same biological process, taking that concept and
- 8:39Speaker 3: breaking it down for people. The guy who went up
- 8:42Speaker 3: before me was one of the guys that won the
- 8:44Speaker 3: Nobel Prize for inventing the MRI. These are the smartest
- 8:48Speaker 3: people in the room, and I was thinking, what in
- 8:51Speaker 3: the hell, And like this poor kid from Louisiana have
- 8:54Speaker 3: no college education, but I'm here talking about this story.
- 8:57Speaker 2: And that's where I met Allen Amazing.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Four months later, we packed up Jeff Schattz and I,
- 9:04Speaker 3: who was our a camera operator in Vampire Our He
- 9:06Speaker 3: was our steady caam operator who ended up becoming a
- 9:09Speaker 3: big producer and now he runs his own show and stuff.
- 9:11Speaker 3: But we packed up and went to Zimbabwe and we
- 9:13Speaker 3: went to Allan's ranch and where Mugabe allowed him and
- 9:19Speaker 3: remind you like this was still Mugabe was in power,
- 9:23Speaker 3: so like you could not go into Zimbabwe as a
- 9:26Speaker 3: white journalist with like camera equipment. You still can't, by
- 9:30Speaker 3: the way, you still can't because we tried with.
- 9:32Speaker 5: Ground Swell and all of our our gear got confiscated
- 9:35Speaker 5: by the government and we ended up not being able
- 9:36Speaker 5: to film out and Safey. It's a result for Grown Sweat.
- 9:39Speaker 3: So you see, this is really potent, scary stuff where
- 9:44Speaker 3: we were putting our lives at risk to get this footage.
- 9:48Speaker 2: I mean, the movie is fascinating, crazy.
- 9:51Speaker 3: I learned Thank you so much great in the.
- 9:54Speaker 1: First thirty minutes. I was like, wow, I'm really learning
- 9:57Speaker 1: a lot from this movie. And I couldn't take my
- 9:59Speaker 1: eyes off of it. Was really well done. The cast,
- 10:02Speaker 1: you know, just all the information. It was riveting and important.
- 10:07Speaker 5: So when you go to Prime Video today on Earth
- 10:10Speaker 5: Day or whatever it may be, start by watching Kiss
- 10:12Speaker 5: the Ground, because that's the first film with that ands
- 10:14Speaker 5: in that film, and it really does a great job
- 10:17Speaker 5: at explaining the carbon cycle. What is regeneration, what is
- 10:21Speaker 5: regenerative agriculture, Why is soil so important, and then it
- 10:25Speaker 5: gives some great examples of some unlikely heroes, like farmers
- 10:28Speaker 5: who've been conventional farmers for a long time, who have
- 10:32Speaker 5: made a really sort of crazy and bold risk to
- 10:35Speaker 5: make a transition away from a lot of you know,
- 10:38Speaker 5: the industrial farming that they've been doing and then have
- 10:42Speaker 5: a huge success. And so the film really follows that
- 10:45Speaker 5: story along with and then.
- 10:47Speaker 3: But it breaks it down into such simplified entertaining because
- 10:52Speaker 3: that was the first thing about you know, Just the
- 10:53Speaker 3: Ground took seven years to make. Yeah, you know, we're
- 10:56Speaker 3: not playing around anymore. Bezos and that team and Amazon
- 11:00Speaker 3: and MG, I mean this is these are some of
- 11:03Speaker 3: the most powerful groups entities in the world. And they
- 11:08Speaker 3: took all three films, repackaged Kiss the Ground, pulled it
- 11:11Speaker 3: off of Netflix. Thank you, Netflix, we love you. It's
- 11:13Speaker 3: an amazing, credible run and relationship. But now Common Ground.
- 11:18Speaker 3: So Kiss the Ground was like dipping our toe in regeneration.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Common Ground is really the nuts and bolts and the
- 11:24Speaker 3: promise of how it actually works, but the big aha moment.
- 11:29Speaker 3: And if this was ten, twelve, fifteen years ago, we
- 11:33Speaker 3: would it would be a little scary.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Stocked, we'd be stocked and I actually have been stocked.
- 11:40Speaker 3: We've basically uncovered on film the agrichemical companies have been
- 11:48Speaker 3: secretly micro financing virtually, I can't say all in public,
- 11:51Speaker 3: but a very large portion, I'll say that of the
- 11:57Speaker 3: university agricultural curriculum in this country for forty years.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Incredible.
- 12:02Speaker 6: So we pulled back the curtain.
- 12:03Speaker 5: We talked to whistleblowers. So the second film, Common Ground,
- 12:06Speaker 5: which comes after Kiss the Ground, we filmed it during COVID.
- 12:09Speaker 5: So instead of going and traveling around the world like
- 12:12Speaker 5: we did with Kiss the Ground and like you did,
- 12:13Speaker 5: we weren't able to do that. So we instead packed
- 12:17Speaker 5: up our sprinter vans and hit the road and traveled
- 12:20Speaker 5: across North America during that time, and people were like
- 12:23Speaker 5: wearing masks and it was the first time people were
- 12:25Speaker 5: like taking their masks off, and we were doing social distancing.
- 12:27Speaker 5: So the whole film Common Ground was filmed during the pandemic,
- 12:31Speaker 5: and that's why it focuses so specifically on North America.
- 12:34Speaker 5: But what was crazy was that we found all these
- 12:37Speaker 5: whistleblowers that were willing to talk because they believe in
- 12:40Speaker 5: regenerative agriculture and they had been suppressed, fired.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Dressed fire bullied like big time.
- 12:48Speaker 5: And they do a great job breaking down how these
- 12:51Speaker 5: different entities which are put in place to protect us
- 12:55Speaker 5: have essentially been bought by the chemical companies. They're the
- 13:00Speaker 5: products that are then put on these foods that then
- 13:02Speaker 5: turn these farmers into debt surfs that are pulled into
- 13:04Speaker 5: bank loans that require them to use those chemicals.
- 13:08Speaker 3: And then the pharmaceutical companies that participate in this sort
- 13:12Speaker 3: of closed loop economy where you have a you have
- 13:15Speaker 3: a an agrochemical company that the pesticide creates a certain disease,
- 13:19Speaker 3: but then it's also owned by a company non Hodgkins Foma,
- 13:23Speaker 3: but they also possess pretty much the only treatment for them.
- 13:27Speaker 5: Yes, they sell the only treatment for the disease that
- 13:30Speaker 5: their other product.
- 13:31Speaker 6: Cause of the.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Movie was like, think about startling.
- 13:35Speaker 6: And that's not a conspiracy.
- 13:37Speaker 1: That's disease with the chemicals and then they're providing the
- 13:42Speaker 1: medications to cure the disease.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Disease. Isn't that wild? And we allow that the US
- 13:49Speaker 3: the congressional members of the US Congress have allowed this
- 13:53Speaker 3: to happen. The universities have allowed that, you know, they've
- 13:57Speaker 3: the chemical company to basically bought the best science money
- 14:00Speaker 3: can buy. But then the legislators base legislation on those findings,
- 14:05Speaker 3: and so they all participate in this unbelievable web of money,
- 14:09Speaker 3: like enormous amounts of money. Sorry, what were you going
- 14:10Speaker 3: to say?
- 14:11Speaker 5: I'm so sorry to interrupt, but I'm excited about what
- 14:13Speaker 5: you're saying, because one hundred percent what happens is people
- 14:18Speaker 5: go to land grant universities thinking that they're going to
- 14:20Speaker 5: get a great education in agriculture, and instead what they're like,
- 14:24Speaker 5: like you said, the majority of funding that comes into
- 14:26Speaker 5: these lang grand universities comes from the companies that are
- 14:29Speaker 5: selling the chemicals, and so they find all the curriculum
- 14:32Speaker 5: and they make the science and so. And then if
- 14:35Speaker 5: you look at where the people who go to these
- 14:37Speaker 5: land grant universities end up, if they're smart, they don't
- 14:40Speaker 5: end up a farmer. They end up in policy or
- 14:42Speaker 5: they end up some place where they can actually make money,
- 14:45Speaker 5: and then they're dictating the policies. And they had an
- 14:47Speaker 5: article that came out which showed that there was a
- 14:51Speaker 5: big party at the at the EPA when they waved
- 14:59Speaker 5: their ten one thousand study that showed the harms of
- 15:03Speaker 5: the effects of these chemicals being exposed to people. So
- 15:07Speaker 5: the government is actively suppressing the science that's coming in
- 15:11Speaker 5: that's showing the connection between our health and these toxic
- 15:15Speaker 5: chemicals and the impact that's having. And then they had
- 15:17Speaker 5: a party to celebrate it where they invited everyone from
- 15:20Speaker 5: the EPA to come and they served cake to celebrate
- 15:24Speaker 5: the ten thousand study that they waived that they are
- 15:28Speaker 5: responsible for making sure that we're protected from incredible.
- 15:31Speaker 2: I want to just go back. I want to talk
- 15:34Speaker 2: about and.
- 15:35Speaker 5: That's common ground, but it's actually a hopeful movie. I
- 15:37Speaker 5: promise you it's not all bad news.
- 15:39Speaker 2: It's full of and inspiring at the same time.
- 15:49Speaker 1: I want to go back and talk about what is
- 15:52Speaker 1: regenerative farming. How is it different than industrial farming, which
- 15:57Speaker 1: is what we have always done, big farm.
- 16:00Speaker 2: I grew up in the Midwest.
- 16:02Speaker 1: I grew up in the middle of corn and soybean
- 16:06Speaker 1: fields Iowa, Illinois, Illinois.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah.
- 16:10Speaker 1: When I was a little girl, I used to walk
- 16:12Speaker 1: for twenty five cents an hour. I would walk the
- 16:15Speaker 1: bean fields and weed them with my sisters. And I
- 16:20Speaker 1: know farmers like I come from farmland, so I'm really
- 16:24Speaker 1: curious about if you could break down the difference between
- 16:28Speaker 1: the two systems and then also talk to us about
- 16:31Speaker 1: how the farmers are feeling about them.
- 16:34Speaker 3: It's super simple. I'll take that one really quickly. I'll
- 16:36Speaker 3: break it down because people ask us this all the
- 16:40Speaker 3: time and saying, what the hell is regenerative agriculture? Why
- 16:43Speaker 3: should I care? What does it do? Yeah to me?
- 16:45Speaker 3: For me, regenerative agriculture is just the use of planned
- 16:50Speaker 3: grazing methods right and using living growing plants like at
- 16:54Speaker 3: scale to sequester enormous amounts of carbon dioxide out of
- 16:58Speaker 3: the atmosphere and store safely back in the ground where
- 17:01Speaker 3: it belongs. Because then when you do that, you pull
- 17:03Speaker 3: that carbon from the air. It it brings that carbon
- 17:07Speaker 3: down in the soil. But when you do that, it
- 17:09Speaker 3: feeds all the vital micro organisms in that.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Soil, which there are many many there.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yes, and so it's really more I think grams. But
- 17:18Speaker 3: you could just say, for argument's sake, that there are
- 17:21Speaker 3: more living organisms and a cup of soil than all
- 17:25Speaker 3: humans who have ever lived in history. What so just
- 17:29Speaker 3: tells you how a live soil is. Right, So when
- 17:32Speaker 3: you generate, when you build the health of soil, you
- 17:37Speaker 3: build the ability for that soil to sequester enormous carbon
- 17:40Speaker 3: but produce really nutrient dense food. So as your soil
- 17:43Speaker 3: gets healthier, your plants get healthier. But you can balance
- 17:46Speaker 3: the climate, build robust economies. We're talking about injecting fifty
- 17:52Speaker 3: eighty one hundred billion dollars back into Middle America. That's
- 17:56Speaker 3: the reindustrialization of Middle America. It's exactly, and I love that.
- 18:00Speaker 3: People say, well, this is a revolution, it said, no, no, no, man,
- 18:02Speaker 3: it's not a revolution. It's an evolution. So when you start,
- 18:06Speaker 3: when farmers start making more money, they start paying more taxes,
- 18:09Speaker 3: which they'll gladly do. And as they do that, school
- 18:13Speaker 3: districts all of a sudden get better. Water districts get better,
- 18:17Speaker 3: after school programs get implemented, parks get better, all these
- 18:20Speaker 3: things that build communities get better and better and better.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Why because there's more money. And as human health or
- 18:26Speaker 3: as soil health goes up, human health goes up, which
- 18:29Speaker 3: means human health care costs come down. They fall precipitously.
- 18:34Speaker 3: So now you've got even more money in the system.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Because everyone thinks, you know, insurance is paid by premiums. No, man,
- 18:40Speaker 3: A lot of it's funded by the US tax payer.
- 18:43Speaker 3: That's the deal they've cut. So now with food agricultural
- 18:47Speaker 3: on this say industrial agriculture, So you're injecting one hundred
- 18:51Speaker 3: billion dollars back in the system. Well, now your healthcare
- 18:54Speaker 3: costs are way down, so you're injecting an additional two
- 18:56Speaker 3: hundred billion from that. All of a sudden, you have
- 18:58Speaker 3: a third of a trillion dollars a year injected back
- 19:02Speaker 3: into the into the country. This is how you rebuild
- 19:05Speaker 3: America when you do it from the ground up, from
- 19:08Speaker 3: Main Street literally, not from Wall Street down. So you're
- 19:11Speaker 3: building up Main Street, not Wall Street. And that is
- 19:15Speaker 3: how you build this thing back. And so like you know,
- 19:18Speaker 3: I also have a vitamin company, but I also make whiskey,
- 19:20Speaker 3: like really with some of the best whisky in the world.
- 19:25Speaker 3: We use a lot of things, and you're a tough palette.
- 19:29Speaker 3: We use a lot of grain. And so there's two
- 19:32Speaker 3: hundred million acres of grain in this country production acres. Roughly.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Regenerative agriculture saves up to four hundred dollars an acre.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Now you multiply four hundred dollars times two hundred million,
- 19:44Speaker 3: it's eighty billion dollars a year, then we send two
- 19:50Speaker 3: agrochemical companies and foreign countries. So you have to sit
- 19:53Speaker 3: and ask yourself, why why are we having farmers like
- 19:58Speaker 3: your dad going to a bank to borrow money that
- 20:02Speaker 3: a cruise interest to spend all that money and send
- 20:05Speaker 3: it overseas to other countries while polluting our water, our land,
- 20:10Speaker 3: our air, and our bodies. When you put a stop
- 20:13Speaker 3: to that. We are talking about the regeneration of America
- 20:18Speaker 3: and obviously beyond too. But what happens here is then
- 20:22Speaker 3: going to That's what Groundswell is. The third film is
- 20:25Speaker 3: about the international not just the promise, but the practice
- 20:29Speaker 3: of regenerations. So these are big, big numbers. You're talking
- 20:34Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars. So effectively, what we're doing
- 20:37Speaker 3: is we're building the single largest carbon capture food economy
- 20:40Speaker 3: in the world from the Carolina coast to the California coast.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And yeah, this is how regenerative farming can change everything everything.
- 20:49Speaker 5: And I want to add on to one thing, which
- 20:51Speaker 5: you know, you mentioned that this is the way it's
- 20:53Speaker 5: always been done, and that's true in terms of our
- 20:56Speaker 5: kind of ecological memory of how we've been farming. The
- 21:00Speaker 5: truth is that this is not the way that it's
- 21:01Speaker 5: always been done. This is what we call modern industrialized agriculture,
- 21:07Speaker 5: and it's been labeled the green revolution. And the idea
- 21:10Speaker 5: of the green revolution wasn't that we were going to
- 21:12Speaker 5: heal the earth and make everything green. The mottle of
- 21:16Speaker 5: the green revolution was to make lots of money profit
- 21:19Speaker 5: and heald profit and yald. And the way to do
- 21:21Speaker 5: that they take get it. At the end of World
- 21:24Speaker 5: War Two, they had all of these poison chemicals that
- 21:26Speaker 5: they had used to kill people. They'd started inventing them
- 21:29Speaker 5: in World War One, and then they got refined in
- 21:31Speaker 5: World War Two, and then that was a big money
- 21:33Speaker 5: making Like war is a huge industry and there's a
- 21:35Speaker 5: lot of money. It's kind of like the pharmaceutical industry
- 21:37Speaker 5: in a way. And so they took those poisons and
- 21:41Speaker 5: those war machines after World War Two and they were like,
- 21:44Speaker 5: what are we going to do with this? How are
- 21:45Speaker 5: we they manufacture them? How what are we going to do? Oh,
- 21:48Speaker 5: I have an idea. Let's spray that on our food
- 21:51Speaker 5: that we eat. Let's spray the poison that we've designed
- 21:53Speaker 5: to kill people, to kill pests on our food. And
- 21:57Speaker 5: so that's how the quote unquote green revolution started by
- 22:00Speaker 5: trying to figure out what to do with all these
- 22:02Speaker 5: poison and war machines, and we decided to use that
- 22:04Speaker 5: on our family farms, a green of revelation.
- 22:08Speaker 6: And so that's why.
- 22:09Speaker 5: But we think of this and I have to just say, like,
- 22:11Speaker 5: when we think of this as something that we've always done,
- 22:13Speaker 5: I have learned coming from a legacy farming family, that
- 22:16Speaker 5: is actually incredibly offensive to some people. I didn't know that,
- 22:20Speaker 5: and I've learned a lot through this process. But the
- 22:22Speaker 5: reality is that regenerative agriculture is a form of indigenous agriculture,
- 22:27Speaker 5: and so indigenous agriculture was always putting the land first.
- 22:30Speaker 5: It was about thinking seven generations ahead. It was looking
- 22:33Speaker 5: at soil like it's in modern terms like your bank account,
- 22:37Speaker 5: Like the more you feed the soil, the more the
- 22:39Speaker 5: soil will feed us. And there is this intuitive, natural
- 22:42Speaker 5: symbiosis between the people and the land who manage the
- 22:45Speaker 5: land for their future, not for today, although it did
- 22:50Speaker 5: take care of them today. That's the beauty of it.
- 22:52Speaker 5: And there were way more ruminants like cows, like buff
- 22:55Speaker 5: in the form of buffalo and bison on the land.
- 22:58Speaker 5: And guess what we didn't have a greenhouse gas problem.
- 23:01Speaker 5: There was no climate change, So how could that be
- 23:04Speaker 5: that we didn't have climate change, We didn't have a
- 23:06Speaker 5: greenhouse gas problem. We had way more ruminants on the land.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Well, the US Army took out about sixty five million
- 23:14Speaker 3: head of American buffalo bison, So the idea to starve
- 23:18Speaker 3: out the Native Americans was to kill all the bison. Well,
- 23:21Speaker 3: those ruminants and those undulates. To remember, they were all
- 23:25Speaker 3: kept in tight herds from what predators lurking. They have
- 23:29Speaker 3: safety numbers. Packs of wolves, packs of wolves, large cats,
- 23:32Speaker 3: all of those kept them moving in tight herds across
- 23:35Speaker 3: that landscape. And those hoofs till the soil and they'd
- 23:38Speaker 3: fertilize that soil with their dung and their urine, and
- 23:41Speaker 3: they would eat all the grass to the growth points.
- 23:43Speaker 3: And then they.
- 23:43Speaker 5: Wouldn't move on, never still, they would never stand still.
- 23:47Speaker 6: There were huge herds.
- 23:49Speaker 3: And so when you had sixty something million head of
- 23:51Speaker 3: these bison. So basically you can go back and look
- 23:56Speaker 3: at fossilized pollen records, which you can see in the movie.
- 23:58Speaker 3: Where indigenous cultures didn't plant gardens, they planted forests, They
- 24:04Speaker 3: built systems where it allowed their food to come to them, right,
- 24:09Speaker 3: their food came to them because they built ecosystems where
- 24:13Speaker 3: protein models thrived, because that's where they that's where the likenesses.
- 24:18Speaker 3: And this goes back. You can look at this. This
- 24:20Speaker 3: is tens of thousands of years this was done, and
- 24:24Speaker 3: it wasn't until colonists came in, and then it brings
- 24:27Speaker 3: in this unbelievable story of race and the triumph of
- 24:32Speaker 3: indigenous people as well. You know, when colonists got here,
- 24:38Speaker 3: they did not know how to create large scale agricultural systems,
- 24:43Speaker 3: and they went to western Africa and they stole people
- 24:46Speaker 3: who did and they brought them here and they subjected
- 24:50Speaker 3: them to horrible, horrible life, But they brought them here
- 24:53Speaker 3: for their indigenous understanding of how to build large scale
- 24:57Speaker 3: food systems.
- 25:00Speaker 5: They're like a grarian experts from Africa, and that put
- 25:02Speaker 5: seeds in their hair to bring to the new land
- 25:06Speaker 5: that they didn't know that they were going, because they
- 25:07Speaker 5: knew that they would need those seeds to be able
- 25:09Speaker 5: to live. The problem is, though, when the colonists got
- 25:12Speaker 5: here and they brought with them slavery and this like
- 25:14Speaker 5: crazy model, there was no way for them to keep
- 25:16Speaker 5: that regenerative model alive. And that sort of linear extractive
- 25:19Speaker 5: system where people are being abused, that's not a regenerative system.
- 25:23Speaker 5: Regenerative system is a healthy system where everyone is taken
- 25:25Speaker 5: care of. But what we did do when we came
- 25:28Speaker 5: to the United States is we plowed up all that
- 25:31Speaker 5: top soil that had been built up by those herds
- 25:34Speaker 5: of bison and buffalo, Like we just ripped it up
- 25:37Speaker 5: like huge, like they'd used these huge like blows and
- 25:40Speaker 5: they would literally take like eighteen inches of that rich
- 25:43Speaker 5: top soil the skin of our mother earth, and they
- 25:45Speaker 5: would just tear it up. And that's how we built
- 25:47Speaker 5: the foundation of our economy in the United States. And
- 25:50Speaker 5: what that did, we removed the ruminants from the land
- 25:54Speaker 5: to control the indigenous people, and then we plowed up
- 25:58Speaker 5: all that beautiful top soil.
- 26:00Speaker 3: Prosal networks so that that ability for nutrients to be
- 26:03Speaker 3: distributed all through because soil is literally alive, like it's
- 26:06Speaker 3: like a.
- 26:06Speaker 5: Web of It's like an internet web system, and.
- 26:09Speaker 3: It moves, it changes shit, I mean, it changes direction.
- 26:13Speaker 5: And depending on their relatives like trees favor so they
- 26:15Speaker 5: built through the microhizole fungi and then networks. It's all connected,
- 26:19Speaker 5: and so there is so family like a tree that's
- 26:21Speaker 5: related to another tree will prefer its family members to
- 26:24Speaker 5: another tree and send nutrients through the root system to
- 26:27Speaker 5: its preferred family relatives.
- 26:29Speaker 6: So even trees like they have.
- 26:32Speaker 5: This way of moving gnerals and all trees.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing?
- 26:37Speaker 5: So plants communicate with each other. But what happened is
- 26:40Speaker 5: when we ripped up that top soil and we destroyed
- 26:44Speaker 5: that network of communication. Guess what happened next in the
- 26:47Speaker 5: United States, Something very famous happened in the United States.
- 26:49Speaker 5: The gospel basically, we desertified the United States. Yes and so,
- 26:54Speaker 5: and that's what we've been doing, and we've been continuing that.
- 26:56Speaker 5: And then when we add it on top of that
- 26:58Speaker 5: the synthetic chemicals and fertilized and the huge war machines
- 27:02Speaker 5: that came in and tilled and plowed, we destroyed our
- 27:06Speaker 5: natural ability to be able to heal, regenerate, move water
- 27:10Speaker 5: where it needs to be, and to have these healthy
- 27:13Speaker 5: ecosystems that reflected what that land looked like before we
- 27:16Speaker 5: came and ripped it up.
- 27:17Speaker 3: And so soil that can also take twenty inches of rain.
- 27:21Speaker 3: You know, go down twenty inches within an hour. So
- 27:24Speaker 3: we're not having all this erosion and kids now. And
- 27:28Speaker 3: this is the thing that I learned from Alan Savory.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Each human is responsible for basically about a pickup truck
- 27:38Speaker 3: load of erosion a year of soil. It's cent our fault.
- 27:42Speaker 3: And I'm saying it breaks down, it breaks down. Yeah,
- 27:46Speaker 3: the stat is pretty wild. So there's so much erosion
- 27:49Speaker 3: happening right now because of land mismanagement and that dust bowl.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Crazy thing is and because you saw common ground, were
- 27:56Speaker 3: you so used to talking to people who haven't. It's
- 27:58Speaker 3: happening again. And so where it becomes really positive, it's
- 28:03Speaker 3: like what Gabe was saying, this is very serious. We
- 28:06Speaker 3: have to stop this. But then you cut to a
- 28:09Speaker 3: guy like, you know, Gay Brown's farm in North Dakota.
- 28:13Speaker 3: He's sequestering ninety six tons of carbon per acre by
- 28:19Speaker 3: doing what by drawing through a process called biose questration,
- 28:23Speaker 3: or just draw down right of that terra ton of
- 28:26Speaker 3: carbon in the air if we call it the legacy load.
- 28:29Speaker 3: And we get this all the time. And I'm not
- 28:31Speaker 3: trying to laugh, I'm not trying to it's just misinformation.
- 28:34Speaker 3: But people think because they drive an electric car, and
- 28:37Speaker 3: they use paper straws. They're going to change the planet.
- 28:39Speaker 3: And it's just simply not the case. Right, that legacy
- 28:42Speaker 3: load of carbon is not going to go anywhere. And
- 28:45Speaker 3: my buddy, you know, like Elon and Bill Gates and
- 28:48Speaker 3: all these guys are talking about all these like elaborate
- 28:51Speaker 3: ways of scrubbing carbon out of the air. Then you
- 28:53Speaker 3: have Gay Brown. He goes, I have a novel. I
- 28:55Speaker 3: have a novel. Idea, let's plan a plant.
- 28:58Speaker 6: Yeah, plan a seed.
- 28:59Speaker 3: Plan to see Gabe is sequestering ninety six tons of
- 29:03Speaker 3: carbon and acre and these sev seventy five acres. Yeah,
- 29:08Speaker 3: this is And he literally says in the movie goes,
- 29:11Speaker 3: can we mitigate climate change? Absolutely? We have the ability
- 29:16Speaker 3: right now by deploying and implementing large scale regenerative agriculture,
- 29:21Speaker 3: where by the way, everyone wins, everyone makes a shitload
- 29:24Speaker 3: of money. Communities get better, are climate balances, and all
- 29:29Speaker 3: of a sudden, we have healthier soil, so we have
- 29:31Speaker 3: healthier people. We have people who are mentally healthier, physically healthier.
- 29:37Speaker 3: All of a sudden you have got farmers and rural communities.
- 29:40Speaker 3: And by the way, some of the people in not
- 29:42Speaker 3: so rural communities. But now those rural farmers can now
- 29:45Speaker 3: go to the local Ford or Chevy dealership. They can
- 29:48Speaker 3: buy new trucks, ones that have heat, where their transmission
- 29:51Speaker 3: works better, and you know, take their wives and their
- 29:54Speaker 3: kids to dinner once a week, not once a month
- 29:57Speaker 3: or once every six months. They can live in thrive.
- 30:07Speaker 5: I don't think people realize how farmers in America are living. No, No,
- 30:10Speaker 5: I don't think that people realize that the farmers have
- 30:12Speaker 5: a five times higher suicide rate than other professions in
- 30:14Speaker 5: the United States. Their bank loans will require them to
- 30:18Speaker 5: spray toxic chemicals, and the farmers are on the front
- 30:21Speaker 5: lines of that. And now we're talking about second and
- 30:23Speaker 5: third generation farmers. And if you start to look at
- 30:25Speaker 5: the epigenetics of how that plays out, it's the second
- 30:27Speaker 5: and third generation farmers that start.
- 30:30Speaker 3: To express the healthy impact.
- 30:33Speaker 1: How do you how do you change a farmer's mind? Like,
- 30:35Speaker 1: how do you teach a farmer?
- 30:37Speaker 5: So, my dad's a farmer, my dad's an industrial farmer. Okay,
- 30:41Speaker 5: I've come, like you said, from an industrial farming family
- 30:45Speaker 5: in the Midwest like you, And you know, I'm making
- 30:49Speaker 5: these films about regenerative agriculture. And I think my dad,
- 30:53Speaker 5: I think what he said the first time I told
- 30:54Speaker 5: them we were making these films. He goes, what do
- 30:56Speaker 5: you know about farming, little girl? And that was like, well,
- 30:59Speaker 5: I'm learning a lot. And you can imagine how those
- 31:02Speaker 5: conversations went. It didn't go well at all. Because my
- 31:05Speaker 5: dad loved spraying round up. It was so easy. He
- 31:09Speaker 5: loved the because he grew up, you know, sprain DDT
- 31:12Speaker 5: and two four D and standing in the bats of
- 31:14Speaker 5: chemicals and plowing that he had a license of like
- 31:17Speaker 5: age twelve or something to drive the tractor. Needless to say,
- 31:21Speaker 5: here we are what fourteen years later, ten years later,
- 31:23Speaker 5: eleven years later from me? And now my dad never
- 31:25Speaker 5: said you're right, but he does send me his organic
- 31:28Speaker 5: and regenerative vegetables that he grows, and so he's doing
- 31:32Speaker 5: a lot of these farmers you know. And I can
- 31:34Speaker 5: say this coming from a farming family. There's a kind
- 31:36Speaker 5: of stubborn gene that runs in farming families and you
- 31:38Speaker 5: have to be it's so that's a resilient heritage.
- 31:41Speaker 3: It's a resilience to get through it.
- 31:43Speaker 5: And it's that you had, like you survived so much
- 31:46Speaker 5: when you're a farmer, and a lot of these innovations
- 31:48Speaker 5: I want to give a little credit to, Like, Okay,
- 31:49Speaker 5: maybe some of these innovations were there to help the
- 31:51Speaker 5: farmer in theory. In theory, but the reality is is
- 31:55Speaker 5: that this technology has destroyed the lives of these farmers.
- 31:58Speaker 5: And as farmers are beginning to wonder what's happened to
- 32:02Speaker 5: their land and what's happened to their family, and why
- 32:04Speaker 5: they're struggling so hard and considering whether they even want
- 32:07Speaker 5: to go on another day.
- 32:08Speaker 3: The economic models don't add up anymore when they look
- 32:11Speaker 3: at the economics.
- 32:12Speaker 5: And then they see their neighbor who has a microclimate
- 32:15Speaker 5: of in a biodiverse of crops and they can sell
- 32:17Speaker 5: if one crop fails, they have so many crops that
- 32:20Speaker 5: they can sell. They're suddenly making a huge profit. Like
- 32:24Speaker 5: ninety percent of the farmers who transition within year one
- 32:26Speaker 5: are making a profit. And then all of a sudden, Okay,
- 32:28Speaker 5: maybe a fire comes through, or a drought or a
- 32:30Speaker 5: flood or a pest blight. Guess what, your farm is decimated,
- 32:35Speaker 5: But your neighbor's farm over there, they have steady rain,
- 32:38Speaker 5: they have green coverage. Maybe it didn't burn down like
- 32:42Speaker 5: case after case after case, and people witnessing the resiliency
- 32:47Speaker 5: of these regenerative farms and these microclimates.
- 32:50Speaker 1: That you guys have in the movie of one industrial
- 32:52Speaker 1: farm next to a regenerative farm, it's incredible and it's
- 32:55Speaker 1: so beautiful and so like just.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Duh, well, this is a no brain.
- 33:00Speaker 5: And when people would watch Kiss the Ground, like farmers
- 33:02Speaker 5: are I don't know about this Hollywood movie about farming
- 33:04Speaker 5: and about Woody Harrelson in it, you know, they don't
- 33:07Speaker 5: want to watch it because you know, it's some like
- 33:08Speaker 5: liberal left wing thing, people that don't know what they're
- 33:11Speaker 5: talking about.
- 33:12Speaker 6: It's like Hollywood.
- 33:13Speaker 5: But then people started watching the movie, and then these
- 33:16Speaker 5: YouTube videos started popping up with farmers giving.
- 33:19Speaker 6: Reviews, and it was like it was so cool to
- 33:22Speaker 6: watch there.
- 33:22Speaker 5: I don't know about Woody Harrelson, but I learned a
- 33:25Speaker 5: lot about this. And they'll go on for an hour
- 33:28Speaker 5: about how one of those five or six principles of regeneration.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Tell us tell our listeners, what are the five ways
- 33:34Speaker 1: to keep regenerative farming moving forward?
- 33:37Speaker 5: All right, I'll give my version, then you give your
- 33:39Speaker 5: version of crush it. So there's like principles and then
- 33:41Speaker 5: there's practices. So the principles of regeneration is like everyone
- 33:46Speaker 5: is taking care of you're bringing soil health back to life.
- 33:50Speaker 5: The practices, however, are really simple. So if you're a farmer,
- 33:54Speaker 5: it's different depending on who you are. But if you're
- 33:56Speaker 5: a farmer, you're going to keep a living route at
- 33:59Speaker 5: all times. Can always have life in the soil, and
- 34:02Speaker 5: you're going to keep that soil covered at all times.
- 34:05Speaker 5: Gay Brown likes to say, MoMA Earth likes to be covered.
- 34:08Speaker 5: She doesn't want to be naked, you know, she wants
- 34:10Speaker 5: to be covered. She wants to be covered with that
- 34:11Speaker 5: green greenery because it's what that's what holds in the moisture,
- 34:15Speaker 5: it's what keeps it cool, it's what keeps the life protected.
- 34:19Speaker 3: Brings nitrogen in from the air, puts it into the soil.
- 34:22Speaker 5: Use nitrogen that that photosynthesis to take that carbon and
- 34:27Speaker 5: then put it into the soil, which is what feeds
- 34:30Speaker 5: all of the life in the soil. And that's the
- 34:31Speaker 5: reason soil is the healthy soil is black. That's carbon
- 34:35Speaker 5: in the soil. When it's dead, it turns almost white
- 34:39Speaker 5: and denude of life into desert. And so so don't
- 34:43Speaker 5: cut so keep the ground coverage, no tillage, no past,
- 34:47Speaker 5: no synthetic pesticides, so herbicized pesticides, undersides like, you don't
- 34:50Speaker 5: need those when you have nature. Nature takes care of
- 34:53Speaker 5: all of it.
- 34:54Speaker 3: Now, listen, I will say, not every and we and
- 34:58Speaker 3: we know this as well, not every single one hundred
- 35:00Speaker 3: percent of topographical and not one hundred percent of every
- 35:03Speaker 3: topography is going to be completely input free. That's we're
- 35:07Speaker 3: not saying. But you vastly reduce and you can use
- 35:10Speaker 3: inputs that are regenerated exactly, So you vastly reduce inputs,
- 35:14Speaker 3: but you don't need to use high use of synthetics.
- 35:18Speaker 3: And so that's where people really start to go, oh gosh,
- 35:22Speaker 3: because even on a thousand acre farm, or let's just
- 35:26Speaker 3: say a two hundred acre farm, if you're saving hundreds
- 35:29Speaker 3: of dollars an acre, you think about all of that savings,
- 35:33Speaker 3: all of that money. So you can do it through
- 35:35Speaker 3: regenerative practices. And like John said, I call him doctor
- 35:40Speaker 3: John because I'm from New Orleans. But people are saying
- 35:46Speaker 3: he's one of the Scientist Center movie and he's amazing,
- 35:51Speaker 3: but he's talks of farmers. He's the question you have
- 35:54Speaker 3: to ask yourself, is not what it's going to cost
- 35:57Speaker 3: to transition, it's what it's going to cost you not
- 36:01Speaker 3: to transition. Well, it's going to cost you your farm,
- 36:04Speaker 3: it's going to cost you your grandkids. It's going to
- 36:07Speaker 3: cost you these things that you're not willing to give up.
- 36:11Speaker 5: Doctor Jonathan Lundren, he's a like a bug expert. He's
- 36:15Speaker 5: got he was a whistleblower at the USDA, was the
- 36:20Speaker 5: the EPA, actually was the USDA, and pummeled him because
- 36:23Speaker 5: he started asking questions about it. So that leads me
- 36:25Speaker 5: into the last two principles of agriculture. So no synthetic,
- 36:28Speaker 5: no inputs because you don't need them. You know why,
- 36:30Speaker 5: because nature has a way of doing that. You have
- 36:32Speaker 5: ground squirrels like we were talking about earlier, put in
- 36:34Speaker 5: some owl boxes, you've got some kind of might get
- 36:37Speaker 5: some lady bugs. Like nature has a solution. And guess
- 36:40Speaker 5: what the beauty of it is.
- 36:41Speaker 6: It's usually cheap, yeah, maybe even free.
- 36:44Speaker 5: All you have to do is stop paying to put
- 36:47Speaker 5: inputs on there that are killing it. So right, and
- 36:49Speaker 5: then the other thing is biodiversity. So you never want
- 36:52Speaker 5: to have a monocrop. You never want to have just
- 36:54Speaker 5: one thing. Can you imagine if all you ate all
- 36:56Speaker 5: day long was corn and that was it.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't be healthy.
- 36:59Speaker 5: It would not be So we have to make sure
- 37:01Speaker 5: that we're using biodiversity to our advantage because that's resiliency.
- 37:06Speaker 5: And then, lastly and probably most important, is animal integration, right,
- 37:10Speaker 5: because that's the part that people are really confused about.
- 37:14Speaker 5: People think that cows are bad. They think that the
- 37:16Speaker 5: way to save the planet is to eat an impossible burger.
- 37:20Speaker 5: And the fact is that the only way to bring
- 37:24Speaker 5: a desert back to life, there's only one way, and
- 37:27Speaker 5: that's their animal integration. You need cows, they're hoofs, right.
- 37:31Speaker 5: You need ruminants. You don't need to pay for fertilizer
- 37:34Speaker 5: when you can put a ruminant that's poop's symbiotic and
- 37:38Speaker 5: co evolved with that land, and it has fertilizer, It
- 37:41Speaker 5: has urine which actss water. It has hooves that breaks
- 37:45Speaker 5: up that hard pack that was there to protect the
- 37:47Speaker 5: indigenous seeds so that when the right conditions came along,
- 37:50Speaker 5: those seeds could come back and it could go back
- 37:53Speaker 5: to the way that it was before we destroyed that land.
- 37:55Speaker 1: But you guys, what if I'm not a farmer can
- 37:58Speaker 1: I do.
- 37:58Speaker 5: So what you can do, I'm sure you have a
- 37:59Speaker 5: great answer to what you can do is first watch
- 38:01Speaker 5: Kiss the Ground and Common Ground on Prime Video literally today, yes,
- 38:06Speaker 5: because in three hours, or just watch one of them,
- 38:08Speaker 5: but if you can watch them both, because it tells
- 38:10Speaker 5: a really interesting story and there's a real surprise at
- 38:12Speaker 5: the end of Common Ground that you will not expect.
- 38:14Speaker 5: So watch both films because you're going to Ian and
- 38:17Speaker 5: I could sit here and talk for probably four days
- 38:19Speaker 5: about this and you'll learn more watching one of these films,
- 38:22Speaker 5: and you'll do will listening to us talk about this
- 38:24Speaker 5: for you.
- 38:25Speaker 3: Because we really put it together structures.
- 38:27Speaker 2: Yes, it's like not as mean, and it's such a
- 38:29Speaker 2: visual too. Yeah, so you.
- 38:31Speaker 6: Really get it.
- 38:32Speaker 5: And then as you watch it and you look at
- 38:35Speaker 5: your own life and what this means to you to
- 38:38Speaker 5: be able to say I was a part looking back
- 38:41Speaker 5: on today, when we had a moment, during this critical
- 38:43Speaker 5: moment in time to course correct to make sure that
- 38:46Speaker 5: we are regenerating and not degenerating our planet, that I
- 38:49Speaker 5: was a part of that movement. I was on the
- 38:51Speaker 5: front lines of that movement of regeneration. I found my
- 38:54Speaker 5: role in that by learning about it, which you can
- 38:56Speaker 5: do by watching Kiss Ground and Common Ground, and so
- 38:58Speaker 5: whoever you are, whether you're a teacher, you can share
- 39:00Speaker 5: the free cuts of the film. There's free educational versions
- 39:03Speaker 5: of the film.
- 39:04Speaker 3: We gave Kiss the Ground away to forty five million students.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Amazing and common fifty thousand classrooms, and Common Ground also
- 39:11Speaker 5: has an education cut fits coming from.
- 39:13Speaker 3: We'll end up giving Common Ground away to probably one
- 39:15Speaker 3: hundred million students globally and.
- 39:16Speaker 5: In free educational curriculum. So if you're a teacher, you
- 39:18Speaker 5: can teach young people. Guess what, it's not all bad news.
- 39:21Speaker 5: You have a future and here's how. And those young
- 39:24Speaker 5: people will do they'll take this on because this is
- 39:26Speaker 5: their future. But we have a responsibility to make sure
- 39:29Speaker 5: that this information gets out there. That's number one.
- 39:31Speaker 6: Number two.
- 39:32Speaker 5: Participate in the food system. So if you live in
- 39:34Speaker 5: an apartment, grow a tomato plant in your window box.
- 39:37Speaker 5: If you have a backyard, grow pollinators to attract grow
- 39:41Speaker 5: go pollinating flowers to attract pollinators.
- 39:44Speaker 3: And bets and then starts to connect with your local
- 39:47Speaker 3: you know, those farmers market environments are really really important
- 39:51Speaker 3: because once you start again, even like a microzil network
- 39:54Speaker 3: under the soil. Once you start connecting with other people,
- 39:57Speaker 3: you start feeding one another. You feed each other in,
- 40:00Speaker 3: you feed each other passion, you feed each other inspiration,
- 40:04Speaker 3: and that transpires into something that where you're purchasing, you're
- 40:08Speaker 3: buying from local farmers, you're talking to them, you're propping
- 40:11Speaker 3: up their businesses, and so they're actually able to start
- 40:14Speaker 3: transitioning and practicing these things that are going to sustain
- 40:18Speaker 3: everyone while regenerating.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Sold people find out about the farmer's markets in their area.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Do you have a resource where because for me, I
- 40:27Speaker 1: understand why people just go to the grocery store and
- 40:29Speaker 1: buy stuff because it's easy finding that farmer's market and
- 40:32Speaker 1: getting there between the hours of two.
- 40:34Speaker 2: To five or whatever it is. Yeah.
- 40:35Speaker 6: Yeah, no, for sure, it takes effort.
- 40:37Speaker 3: It does take effort, But also too, I think once
- 40:39Speaker 3: you get in, when there is a little bit of effort, yep,
- 40:43Speaker 3: it means so much more. But then you start to
- 40:46Speaker 3: find community and it reminds you slow down. How is
- 40:50Speaker 3: it that I've built a life for myself that I
- 40:52Speaker 3: can't even take my kids to a farmer's market at
- 40:55Speaker 3: nine o'clock on a Saturday morning after a soccer game.
- 40:59Speaker 3: How did I get in to that system?
- 41:01Speaker 2: You got to re priority where I.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Can't even just go and pick up some food from
- 41:06Speaker 3: people who are growing it from their farm to our hands.
- 41:09Speaker 3: How did I get to that point? So, if you
- 41:11Speaker 3: have an acre or you've got a front yard, you
- 41:13Speaker 3: can turn it into a magical regenerative system. And we
- 41:18Speaker 3: have toolkits actually kiss the ground if you just go
- 41:21Speaker 3: on the website we have if you go on the
- 41:23Speaker 3: Kiss the Ground website, we have toolkits to do all this.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And that's what's been so incredible as well. And one
- 41:31Speaker 3: of the things we're really once we get out of
- 41:33Speaker 3: production and post production is we're just so in. But
- 41:36Speaker 3: one of the things that we really I'm excited to
- 41:39Speaker 3: do and we're going to do it with Absorb as well.
- 41:41Speaker 3: You start going into some of these food desert communities
- 41:44Speaker 3: that are disproportionately black and brown, where all of this
- 41:49Speaker 3: really unhealthy snap food is pumped subsidized by the US
- 41:53Speaker 3: government and taxpayer money to create such unhealth, both physical
- 41:59Speaker 3: unhealth and mental on health in these minority communities, which
- 42:04Speaker 3: is such a such a waste of these humans are
- 42:10Speaker 3: they're starving for something great and once you start building
- 42:14Speaker 3: this resilience within these communities, they thrive. All does is
- 42:19Speaker 3: taking to just go back in history and look at
- 42:21Speaker 3: what doctor George Washington Carver got to do. I mean,
- 42:24Speaker 3: you had a man who was born into indentured no
- 42:27Speaker 3: he was born in slav who ended up becoming one
- 42:30Speaker 3: of the most famous soil scientists in the world, celebrated
- 42:34Speaker 3: by presidents and a.
- 42:36Speaker 5: Professor at Tuskegee University. He was the one that invented
- 42:39Speaker 5: nitrogen fixing exactly.
- 42:41Speaker 3: And he also helped build a very very very robust
- 42:45Speaker 3: black economic agricultural economic system. Well that wasn't good for business,
- 42:53Speaker 3: and so that was squashed.
- 42:55Speaker 2: I learned about this in the movie.
- 42:57Speaker 3: So oh yeah, that's train keep forgetting you've seen the film.
- 42:59Speaker 3: But so in the nineteen twenties there are a million
- 43:02Speaker 3: black farmers in this country. There's less than fifty thousand now,
- 43:06Speaker 3: but that is numbers about to change. And the indigenous,
- 43:10Speaker 3: oh my gosh, these these native indigenous reservations are about
- 43:13Speaker 3: to become these unbelievable, regenerative, giant, agricultural, robust systems. So
- 43:21Speaker 3: you know, we hear like some of our like coastal
- 43:24Speaker 3: elite friends always talking about the flyover States and you're like, no, man,
- 43:28Speaker 3: these are not the flyover states. These are about to
- 43:31Speaker 3: become the rock stars. I do not like that phrase.
- 43:35Speaker 3: I typically don't use the word hate. Hates a very
- 43:36Speaker 3: strong word. I hate that phrase.
- 43:39Speaker 5: It's so disrespectful to the people that like built our
- 43:41Speaker 5: country and feed.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Us exactly so. But this is like these farmers. You
- 43:47Speaker 3: know when you look at when you look at these guys,
- 43:50Speaker 3: whether it's Gay Brown or our dear brother and my
- 43:53Speaker 3: mentor and just brother of mine, Rick Clark as well.
- 43:57Speaker 3: Gabe and Rick have become like these amazing mentors. Rick
- 44:00Speaker 3: Clark is actually growing all of our regenerative organic rye
- 44:03Speaker 3: for Brothers Bond and Regenerative Grains and gabiz To. These
- 44:09Speaker 3: guys are about to become the most famous farmers in
- 44:11Speaker 3: the world. And he's in Western Indiana.
- 44:14Speaker 5: And Summer Holder and Jason Momoa.
- 44:16Speaker 6: We got Gay Brown.
- 44:17Speaker 3: These guys are the coolest dudes. And then we have
- 44:19Speaker 3: Alejandro Corrio down in the Chiuahuan Desert. It's about to
- 44:23Speaker 3: regenerate two million acres of this unbelievable desert land in
- 44:29Speaker 3: Mexico that is so magnificent, where they see the microclimate
- 44:33Speaker 3: change within months of these regenerative systems starting to take place.
- 44:37Speaker 3: And so you have these systems where you're going to
- 44:40Speaker 3: see indigenous in white and black and brown, all of
- 44:43Speaker 3: this this information coming together common common ground, the soil.
- 44:49Speaker 3: You know, we are so divided that are the soil
- 44:52Speaker 3: is our only common ground. That's why they name the
- 44:55Speaker 3: film common Ground.
- 44:57Speaker 5: And we actually had Gay Brown our star. You know,
- 44:59Speaker 5: he says the very much a typical farmer, very conservative
- 45:02Speaker 5: in his views. He's a very religious man, which is
- 45:05Speaker 5: why he did this with us, because he believed that
- 45:07Speaker 5: that was his calling from God to tell his story
- 45:09Speaker 5: with us, which was a huge privilege.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys, I this movie. Everybody means to see
- 45:16Speaker 1: both of these movies.
- 45:17Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 45:18Speaker 2: It's the Ground and common ground.
- 45:20Speaker 5: You you know, Malcolm Gladwell has the site this theory
- 45:23Speaker 5: that when you get ten percent, that that's the tipping
- 45:24Speaker 5: point that then shifts everything that direction. So if we
- 45:28Speaker 5: could get ten percent of our actually.
- 45:30Speaker 3: One hundred million, it's about a temper, you know, it
- 45:31Speaker 3: was about a billion acres farmed here at that ten percent,
- 45:35Speaker 3: when we're looking at that is the tipping point. It
- 45:37Speaker 3: will never go back because at the end of the day,
- 45:39Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to sound crass, money talks, bullshit walks,
- 45:43Speaker 3: and they're gonna be rich. You tell these people that
- 45:46Speaker 3: they can make money and their kids can go to
- 45:47Speaker 3: great schools and they don't have to be sick, and
- 45:49Speaker 3: they can drive a new car that actually has set
- 45:52Speaker 3: in Iowa where it's freezing cold. I mean, this is
- 45:55Speaker 3: how you change America. And it's so powerful that I
- 45:59Speaker 3: left a very very successful, pretty damn lucrative, you know,
- 46:04Speaker 3: career in television. Didn't have much luck in film, but hey,
- 46:09Speaker 3: your film, well, no, in this film exactly, but really
- 46:13Speaker 3: did well in televisions, and left that business to raise
- 46:17Speaker 3: my kids, build my family, and build my companies, raise
- 46:21Speaker 3: my kids, and then launched these films. And that was that.
- 46:26Speaker 3: I don't know any other way to spend time. And
- 46:28Speaker 3: people say, are you you know, why don't you go
- 46:31Speaker 3: back to acting? And I'm like, I don't know when
- 46:33Speaker 3: I would have the time to sit on a set
- 46:36Speaker 3: and tell someone else's story. Yeah, when we are writing
- 46:40Speaker 3: in our own stories. All of a sudden it just
- 46:42Speaker 3: came together.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it works.
- 46:45Speaker 1: When you you sound it sounds like you really prioritized
- 46:48Speaker 1: what you want in your life and what you want
- 46:50Speaker 1: for your kids and your family, and you have done
- 46:52Speaker 1: is the same thing coming from your background. It's so
- 46:55Speaker 1: inspiring what you are both doing in individual ways, and
- 46:59Speaker 1: I love your passion about it. It's so necessary to
- 47:02Speaker 1: get this very very important message out there and heard.
- 47:06Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing it with your incredible people love your
- 47:10Speaker 3: show and I see why. But this is the watershed
- 47:16Speaker 3: moment and the Gregstone, doctor Gregstone, one of the most
- 47:20Speaker 3: famous marine scientists literally walking the planet, is also a
- 47:23Speaker 3: very dear mentor of mine. I mean this, guys, you
- 47:27Speaker 3: know of the caliber of like a Sylvia Earl right
- 47:30Speaker 3: before Oceans and he saw remember we were at the
- 47:33Speaker 3: Common Ground, I mean at the Kiss the Ground premiere
- 47:35Speaker 3: which we had to do a drive in a drive in.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Everyone was wearing masks, but he literally he was literally
- 47:43Speaker 3: in tears and he said, he's like, I am a
- 47:46Speaker 3: scientist and he's been a scientist for thirty something years.
- 47:48Speaker 3: This is a watershed moment for the planet. This is
- 47:53Speaker 3: where science, economy family. This is where everything comes together
- 47:59Speaker 3: in one neat package and you can turn it on
- 48:02Speaker 3: the flip of a switch. Whether you have a backyard
- 48:05Speaker 3: that's one hundred feet ten feet or one hundred acres.
- 48:09Speaker 3: You can transform your life by building soil.
- 48:14Speaker 2: It's a choice, it's your best part. It's a choice.
- 48:17Speaker 2: It's a choice.
- 48:18Speaker 1: It's making a different choice, a choice that might seem
- 48:20Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult. But if you get the
- 48:23Speaker 1: knowledge and you get the you know, do your research.
- 48:25Speaker 1: With this information that you're providing with you your platforms, people.
- 48:30Speaker 2: Can do it. And that's exciting.
- 48:31Speaker 1: And I think you know everybody is going to be
- 48:34Speaker 1: really excited about this conversation. Before I let you go, though,
- 48:43Speaker 1: I have to ask what was your last I choose
- 48:45Speaker 1: me moment.
- 48:46Speaker 5: I'm a mom. I feel like I'm more of a
- 48:49Speaker 5: servant than I choose me.
- 48:51Speaker 2: That's the thing.
- 48:52Speaker 5: Let's see, I choose me. Let's see. I went swimming
- 48:56Speaker 5: naked the other day.
- 48:57Speaker 6: That's all I'm going to say about that.
- 49:00Speaker 3: I like that choice.
- 49:02Speaker 5: And I drank and I drank a little of the
- 49:04Speaker 5: water I was swimming in.
- 49:07Speaker 3: I mean house, you and Josh like you, we've all
- 49:11Speaker 3: found ourselves in very much a servants. I live in
- 49:16Speaker 3: a very a life of service, and I mean I
- 49:22Speaker 3: just had this conversation with my own mom, and she goes,
- 49:25Speaker 3: I see you, guys, you're traveling around the world. You're
- 49:28Speaker 3: just talking about regenerating, regenerating, regenerating, but you are really
- 49:34Speaker 3: you're you're degenerating yourself doing it. My I Choose Me
- 49:40Speaker 3: moment really was the big, big, big one, really was
- 49:45Speaker 3: building absorption, you know, because I needed something to actually
- 49:50Speaker 3: make sure I could do all this. And so every
- 49:55Speaker 3: week or every month that we're building into these innovation pipelines,
- 49:59Speaker 3: some stop is a lot of it's for women, and
- 50:02Speaker 3: Nikki and our team really drives a lot of that innovation,
- 50:05Speaker 3: and then some of it is for men, and I
- 50:07Speaker 3: get to help drive that innovation. And that I Choose
- 50:12Speaker 3: Me it was driving some I can't say what it
- 50:14Speaker 3: is right now, but very male driven nanometric liposomal technology,
- 50:19Speaker 3: like this thing that I've been always wanting and hoping
- 50:23Speaker 3: would be in the market. No one's ever been able
- 50:25Speaker 3: to crack it because I didn't have the science to
- 50:26Speaker 3: do it. And I just said, I'm going to push
- 50:29Speaker 3: this through this innovation pipeline. And this is a very
- 50:31Speaker 3: male is something that's really good for men because you know,
- 50:35Speaker 3: we see this a lot, because we talked to all
- 50:37Speaker 3: the scientists, and we talked to a lot of people.
- 50:39Speaker 3: Healthy happy people build healthy happy societies by making healthy,
- 50:44Speaker 3: happy choices. But one of the things I got to
- 50:47Speaker 3: I realize is is that healthy happy guys and my age,
- 50:52Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in my mid forties now, mid to
- 50:54Speaker 3: late Now, I can say it happen, it happens fast.
- 50:57Speaker 3: But you know what, you realize that there is in
- 50:59Speaker 3: a salt on people of our age into middle age,
- 51:05Speaker 3: into late middle age. Healthy people in middle age is
- 51:10Speaker 3: not good for the system. It's better when we're all sick, right,
- 51:15Speaker 3: It's just better for the economy that they want. And
- 51:19Speaker 3: I choose that, my choose me moment is that is
- 51:23Speaker 3: going to stop. And I am tired of that assault
- 51:27Speaker 3: on middle aged humans, both men and women. Doesn't matter
- 51:33Speaker 3: whether you're middle class, it doesn't matter what you are.
- 51:36Speaker 3: It is no longer acceptable to me for us to
- 51:39Speaker 3: be sick. I'm done with it. And so we're building
- 51:43Speaker 3: a couple of really robust, super disruptive supplement SKUs that
- 51:50Speaker 3: are going to really rock the rock the whole market.
- 51:54Speaker 2: So tell us it's Absorption.
- 51:56Speaker 3: The Absorption Company. Literally, it's why we you know, because
- 51:59Speaker 3: I told you, you know, I set offline that we
- 52:02Speaker 3: have this proprietary piece of technology that allows us to
- 52:04Speaker 3: take lipophilic material, a liposoma material, and turn it into
- 52:09Speaker 3: a water soluble material that's a nanometric particle, so it's
- 52:12Speaker 3: five hundred percent more absorbable.
- 52:14Speaker 2: That's the key it works.
- 52:15Speaker 5: It saved me so many times his product through this.
- 52:18Speaker 5: As you know, it's a bit degenerative. As you're talking about,
- 52:21Speaker 5: it's pretty hard to We've we've made ourselves responsible, like
- 52:26Speaker 5: on the hook for spreading the message of how we
- 52:29Speaker 5: actually can fix the climate, and there's a lot of
- 52:31Speaker 5: pressure there and it puts us into this endless loop
- 52:34Speaker 5: of constantly, constantly, constantly advocating for that. But what happens
- 52:38Speaker 5: is that it actually is kind of degenerative towards our
- 52:40Speaker 5: own bodies. And so that's actually one of the things
- 52:42Speaker 5: we're talking about in our next film, Groundswell. We've got
- 52:44Speaker 5: Demi Moore also one of our narrators along with Ian
- 52:47Speaker 5: and Jason Lemon and Jayden Smith. But Demi wants to
- 52:51Speaker 5: really talk about that inner microclimate of what regeneration is
- 52:55Speaker 5: for our bodies because it starts within, that starts each
- 52:58Speaker 5: one of us.
- 53:00Speaker 3: And getting to hear some from like some of these conversations,
- 53:03Speaker 3: like you know, people like you know, the King of
- 53:06Speaker 3: England and stuff like that.
- 53:08Speaker 6: You know, we got to go film the King, which
- 53:09Speaker 6: is crazy.
- 53:11Speaker 3: I mean just the people we get to interface with.
- 53:14Speaker 5: The King was like your movie is my favorite movie.
- 53:16Speaker 5: He like came out with his hands stretched outs. You're
- 53:18Speaker 5: not supposed to touch them.
- 53:19Speaker 6: You're supposed to like Curtsey.
- 53:20Speaker 3: And all this stuff.
- 53:21Speaker 5: So like I like, I'm like going to Curtsey and
- 53:22Speaker 5: then he reaches out. I actually fell on it. Actually,
- 53:24Speaker 5: the whole night with him was kind of a train wreck,
- 53:27Speaker 5: but he found it charming, fortunately.
- 53:29Speaker 3: But it's just this, these are the people that that
- 53:33Speaker 3: are that we get to bring into our orbit and
- 53:39Speaker 3: get to experiences and hear from them. And again it's
- 53:43Speaker 3: this pooling of knowledge. And I'm not saying power from
- 53:46Speaker 3: a self standpoint, knowledge and power coming together because and
- 53:51Speaker 3: I mentioned this to one of the single most powerful
- 53:56Speaker 3: legislators in the country who will go unnamed, but I said,
- 53:59Speaker 3: I I said. He basically said, like, so you're saying
- 54:04Speaker 3: soil is are common ground, but you're splitting you know,
- 54:07Speaker 3: you're telling conventional farmers are doing stuff that's wrong. And
- 54:10Speaker 3: I said no, no, no, sir, we're not. We're bringing them
- 54:13Speaker 3: into the conversation, just telling them they can actually prosper
- 54:16Speaker 3: and make money. And I said, one of the things
- 54:19Speaker 3: that that we've realized it's going to happen is once
- 54:22Speaker 3: that kicks into high gear, incumbents or candidates. And I
- 54:28Speaker 3: don't mean we stay so far out of politics. I've
- 54:31Speaker 3: been offered to run for office so many time. I
- 54:32Speaker 3: wouldn't do it, No way, I would never. I would
- 54:36Speaker 3: never run for office because we can do so much
- 54:38Speaker 3: more out here. But I said to him, I said, sir,
- 54:41Speaker 3: with all due respect, I said, listen, these elections are
- 54:45Speaker 3: going to change because it's the small communities. If you
- 54:48Speaker 3: look at a gubernatorial election, look at how presidential elections
- 54:51Speaker 3: are one, they're won by tiny little communities. They're dots
- 54:54Speaker 3: on maps, right. And I said, you're no longer going
- 54:57Speaker 3: to be able to come into these go back to
- 55:00Speaker 3: your districts, whether you're an incumbent or candidate as a hero,
- 55:04Speaker 3: if you're taking agriculture and pharmaceutical money, it's just not
- 55:07Speaker 3: going to happen anymore. Voters are they're too hip to
- 55:10Speaker 3: it now. And I said, one of the things he
- 55:12Speaker 3: asked me. He goes, well, what have you learned most
- 55:14Speaker 3: about being in DC? Because I spent a lot of
- 55:16Speaker 3: time in DC. I said, well, sir, to be honest
- 55:18Speaker 3: with you, I've learned that the Republican Party is owned
- 55:21Speaker 3: by agrochemical industries and the Democratic Party is basically owned
- 55:26Speaker 3: by pharmaceutical companies. And I said, neither one of those
- 55:30Speaker 3: is good for America, and it's time to change that.
- 55:33Speaker 3: And so this is the sea change, and so kiss
- 55:37Speaker 3: the ground, common ground, and then ground swell. This is
- 55:40Speaker 3: the promise of a regenerative, bright future, not just here
- 55:44Speaker 3: in America but around the entire globe. And we're going
- 55:47Speaker 3: to build a trillion dollar carbon capture food economy. And
- 55:50Speaker 3: it starts literally today.
- 55:52Speaker 6: Today it does heavy earthdayath.
- 55:54Speaker 5: Two tiny thoughts I want to share this concluding from
- 55:57Speaker 5: our whole conversation that I want to just say, one,
- 56:00Speaker 5: it's important to do things like drive electric cars and
- 56:03Speaker 5: use plat paper straws like all of those things. Like
- 56:05Speaker 5: energy efficiency, which was the message that Josh and I
- 56:07Speaker 5: came out with in the very beginning back in two
- 56:09Speaker 5: thousand and eight, is a huge part of this. And
- 56:12Speaker 5: we're not saying don't do those things, right, that dies like,
- 56:15Speaker 5: we do need to reduce the amount of carbon that
- 56:18Speaker 5: we're putting into the atmosphere, right, there's no question about that.
- 56:21Speaker 5: But what he was saying that I really want to
- 56:22Speaker 5: put a point on is that's not going to do
- 56:25Speaker 5: anything about that thousand gigatons of carbon that we've put
- 56:31Speaker 5: into the atmosphere that the absorb, oceans have absorbed as
- 56:34Speaker 5: much as they can and acidifying as a result of
- 56:37Speaker 5: and can't absorb anymore. So, yes, we need to reduce
- 56:41Speaker 5: what we're admitting, but the only way, And this is
- 56:44Speaker 5: what's been missing from the conversation for the last twenty years,
- 56:48Speaker 5: forty years. This is what's been missing. This is why
- 56:50Speaker 5: this is so important.
- 56:51Speaker 6: This is why this is.
- 56:52Speaker 5: Such a huge moment for us. It's because when we
- 56:55Speaker 5: add to the conversation the power that soil has to
- 57:00Speaker 5: pull all of that carbon out of our oceans and
- 57:02Speaker 5: out of our atmosphere and to put it in the soil.
- 57:05Speaker 5: And we have not been talking about that for twenty years.
- 57:08Speaker 5: We've been talking about climate change, and we haven't been
- 57:10Speaker 5: talking about this simple, easy, elegant, natural solution that nature
- 57:14Speaker 5: has to this problem that we're all freaking out about
- 57:16Speaker 5: that's crazy. That's why this is so important, right, Yeah.
- 57:20Speaker 5: And then the other thing that I want to mention
- 57:23Speaker 5: is that as the daughter of a farmer and a
- 57:25Speaker 5: farming family, I know that it can be very hard
- 57:28Speaker 5: for people to talk to farmers about this when they're
- 57:30Speaker 5: passionate about it. You may not be able to talk
- 57:33Speaker 5: to your farming neighbor about climate change. They may not
- 57:35Speaker 5: want to hear about climate change. It could actually cause
- 57:38Speaker 5: them to stop listening to you altogether. And I know this. However,
- 57:43Speaker 5: when you talk to your neighbors about the climate and
- 57:47Speaker 5: the weather, suddenly you have their attention because that's what
- 57:51Speaker 5: they live and die.
- 57:52Speaker 3: By weather and money is the weather.
- 57:54Speaker 5: And so when you start talking about the weather and
- 57:55Speaker 5: they're looking at their neighbors' farms and they have enough water,
- 57:59Speaker 5: they're not having a dry they're not having a pest problem.
- 58:02Speaker 5: Their weather next door on the other side of the
- 58:04Speaker 5: fence actually looks pretty stable, resilient and great growing conditions.
- 58:09Speaker 5: How come my farm is running off into the river
- 58:11Speaker 5: and drifting away and blowing away in the wind. So
- 58:15Speaker 5: when you talk to farmers about the weather, you know
- 58:17Speaker 5: you want to meet people where they're at in this conversation.
- 58:19Speaker 5: You don't want to come out righteous like, oh, you
- 58:21Speaker 5: spray chemicals and oh you're the problem and you're the
- 58:23Speaker 5: reason that we're having climate change and you have to
- 58:25Speaker 5: fix it. Can you imagine how well that conversation is.
- 58:28Speaker 3: Going to go.
- 58:29Speaker 5: I can tell you because I've had them. Yeah, it
- 58:31Speaker 5: doesn't go well. All you do is polarize people and
- 58:34Speaker 5: become part of the problem when you talk to people
- 58:37Speaker 5: about the magic and power of regeneration to restore ecosystems,
- 58:43Speaker 5: your farm, your family, your community, your own body on
- 58:47Speaker 5: a region by region level, that is regeneration.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, Thank you so much, really really happy.
- 58:54Speaker 3: Then we're super grateful we got to do this. Congratulations
- 58:56Speaker 3: on the show.
- 58:57Speaker 5: Happy Earth Day everyone, Thank you for having us.