Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / 1908: The Year American Motorsport Changed Forever
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- 0:00Brake Fix's History of Motorsports series is brought to you in part
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- 0:11Commerce, and the Argettsinger family.
- 0:16Things Change, 1908 and American Motorsport by Don Capps.
- 0:20Don Capps has been a member of the SAH Board of Directors since
- 0:232014 and is now the immediate past president of the society.
- 0:27He is a member of the Historian's Council of the IMRRC and is
- 0:30co chair of the symposium.
- 0:32Don began following motorsports at an early age while attending races with his
- 0:35father at Lakewood Speedway in Atlanta.
- 0:37In addition to motor racing, military and civil aviation, and military
- 0:41history have also been lifelong interests that formed early on.
- 0:45Don holds graduate degrees from University of South Carolina and
- 0:48George Mason University and has taught at both the high school and college
- 0:52levels, the latter being the Citadel.
- 0:54He was a faculty member of the Defense Model and Simulation University and
- 0:58spent over three years in Southwest Asia with the Pentagon Executive Office for
- 1:02Simulation Training and Instrumentation.
- 1:04Don is currently engaged in research surrounding the sport and contests
- 1:07sanctioned by the AAA from its beginning.
- 1:10Including American National Auto Racing Championships until the
- 1:13contest board ceased operations at the end of the 1955 season.
- 1:17I wanted to talk about something I came across as a historian of motorsport.
- 1:22I knew a lot about Formula One, Grand Prix, sports car sort of thing.
- 1:26Having grown up in Europe, having got that interest, Paul Sheldon, who was
- 1:30one of the co founders of the Formula 1 register, was a dear friend of mine.
- 1:34They created the record of Grand Prix and Voiturette racing, and in
- 1:39one of our exchanges, he says, you know, I love sprint car racing.
- 1:44I love American racing and I was stunned because here's
- 1:47the person who is the expert.
- 1:48All that information you see out there on the internet about
- 1:52results from Formula One racing, it was taken from their research.
- 1:56I said, okay, Don, I want you to think seriously about
- 2:01looking into American racing.
- 2:03And I said, okay, so how do I do this?
- 2:07I'm really not that familiar with American racing, per se, and what's available.
- 2:13Vacuums, to historians, are like catnip.
- 2:16When your ignorance and your lack of knowledge about a topic becomes evident,
- 2:23you just find yourself into that void.
- 2:26You start looking.
- 2:27Well, 20 something years later, about 25 years later, here I am.
- 2:32Trying to give you some idea.
- 2:34When I started looking into this, I started focusing on the
- 2:37early years, up to about 1920.
- 2:39Because that was an area that I found a big void.
- 2:43And I started digging and digging and digging.
- 2:45And the more I started digging, the more I found, the more I found, the
- 2:50more I started looking elsewhere.
- 2:53And one of the things that became evident to me over time, it's just
- 2:57like you'll find many cases in history.
- 2:59There is this incredible glut, books, articles about year things change.
- 3:07You know, 1948, 1944, 1816.
- 3:11And it kind of occurred to me as I was doing my research, that there
- 3:14was a year that kept kind of popping up as I looked through all this
- 3:19material that I began collecting.
- 3:21I've been researching and looking into, and the year ended up being 1908, which
- 3:28is not the year I would have anticipated.
- 3:30Once I took that step back as a historian and started looking at
- 3:34the context and the objectivity, uh, where are some dividing points?
- 3:39And I kept coming back, and it came always to 1908.
- 3:43Well, why 1908?
- 3:45Here are just a few of the things that happened in 1908 in American racing.
- 3:51Appearance of road racing, there had been the William K.
- 3:54Vanderbilt Jr.
- 3:56The New York to Paris event took place.
- 3:59The New York State Automotive Association changes its due success.
- 4:02We're going to come to that.
- 4:04Which meant that the Automobile Club of America withdrew from the
- 4:07American Automobile Association.
- 4:09The international organization, which is now the FIA, the AICA, or back in those
- 4:14days, sided with The Honorable Club of America, not the AAA in this dispute.
- 4:21We'll come to that.
- 4:22Then there was agreement.
- 4:23The Vanderbilt Cup was held out on Long Island, and of course it was
- 4:28the Locomobile that won, number 16, George Robertson and all that.
- 4:32They had the first race in Savannah.
- 4:34And I can say right now, I'm one of the probably few people in the world that has
- 4:38flown the old route in an OH 58 Kiowa.
- 4:42Boys and their toys, sort of deals, when I was at Fort Stewart.
- 4:45And is also one of the places that comes back to this coming together.
- 4:49First year the season reviews began to appear.
- 4:51And, there was the Motor Contest Association, which nobody's ever heard
- 4:56of probably, started to contact the AAA.
- 4:59It comes down to three things.
- 5:01The road racing arrives in the United States, the schism between
- 5:04the ACA and the AAA, and the appearance of seasoned reviews.
- 5:09These are the things that kind of coalesced in my
- 5:11thinking when I looked at it.
- 5:12The first one, of course, is obvious, road racing.
- 5:15January 1909,
- 5:19This is the first review of American road racing that's been published.
- 5:24Take my word for it.
- 5:25If you can find an early one, good for you.
- 5:27I have looked everywhere.
- 5:28And it was written by a guy, C.
- 5:30G.
- 5:30Chris Sensabaugh.
- 5:32And if you see on the right side, that is a listing of all the road
- 5:37races in the United States that year.
- 5:40The number the year before?
- 5:43There was no Vanderbilt Cup in 1907.
- 5:45And here you have this incredible list.
- 5:47Kind of amazing.
- 5:48Mount Baldy Race in Los Angeles.
- 5:51There was a race from Jacksonville to Miami.
- 5:54Just a number of things.
- 5:55All the races in Savannah.
- 5:57Suddenly we go from no road racing In 1908, suddenly we have a glut.
- 6:03We've got 21 separate road races out of nowhere.
- 6:07That's a big change.
- 6:08Again, suddenly road racing is a big deal.
- 6:12Motor age and the automobile, the horseless age.
- 6:15Now, they're big deals.
- 6:18They take front page of an issue.
- 6:20So that's a change.
- 6:22Of course, where does that lead us?
- 6:23In American racing, after 1916, 1920, the last Elgin race.
- 6:28Not until 1933 did you have another road race of any consequence.
- 6:33That was at Elgin for stock cars.
- 6:36Then you had the Mines Field race.
- 6:38How many of you have flown into LAX?
- 6:40If you have, that's Mines Field.
- 6:43Right on that location.
- 6:44That was 1934.
- 6:45And of course, in 36 and 37, you have the George Vanderbilt Cup races that happened.
- 6:501908 is when road racing really becomes an American thing.
- 6:57And amazingly enough, in 1948, we have the race here at Watkins
- 7:03Glen, the Watkins Glen Grand Prix.
- 7:05Which leads us to Riverside, Grand Prix for sports cars,
- 7:10little bit of PR sort of thing.
- 7:12And of course, then the race here.
- 7:14I picked the 1961 race mostly because I was here for that one.
- 7:17The second thing that really got me, because I'm into digging into conflicts.
- 7:24Inside racing.
- 7:25I love that sort of thing because it kills you a lot.
- 7:28The schism between the Audible Club America and the AAA.
- 7:32It was a big story.
- 7:33There's an article from the New York Times, there's a war going
- 7:36on, a publication called Motor talks about ACA versus AAA, then
- 7:40Motorworld, another publication.
- 7:42I was very confused about this whole thing because I didn't know a lot
- 7:47about the Automobile Club of America.
- 7:50Found it was organized in 1899.
- 7:52First Racing rules were published in 1901.
- 7:55Despite being told by numerous people, they didn't exist.
- 7:58I found 'em.
- 7:59They were an original member of the aaa.
- 8:02In fact, they one of the organizing clubs of the seven
- 8:04clubs that organized it in 1902.
- 8:07One of the problems with the A CA.
- 8:10Not long after the AAA was formed, when there was a transition going on about
- 8:14the racing, on Staten Island, there was speed trials, and there was the
- 8:19Baker Torpedo, ran off the race after establishing almost a speed record for
- 8:24one kilometer, went into the crowd, killed several people, injured others.
- 8:29The promoter was the Automobile Club of America.
- 8:32They were on a line for liabilities.
- 8:35They looked at this whole thing and said, We're not going to do road racing.
- 8:38We're not going to do anything on public roads.
- 8:40Which meant that in 1904, when you had the first Vanderbilt Cup, that's
- 8:46why AAA, not the Auto Bill Club of America, was the sanctioning body.
- 8:52Because they had passed resolutions saying, We're not going to do
- 8:55anything that involves public roads.
- 8:57The only thing we'll do is like, maybe reliability trials and so forth.
- 9:01Which is interesting because it was an international event, and in May of 1904,
- 9:06ACA became a member of the International Organization of Recognized Auto Bill
- 9:11Clubs, what is in English, what is now the FIA, established in Germany.
- 9:15They were the official American member, recognized as the
- 9:19official American auto bill club.
- 9:21In 1908, the ACA resigned from the New York State Auto Bill Association.
- 9:29I could never figure out how ACA got into racing in 1908 until this came up.
- 9:36And it had nothing to do with racing.
- 9:38It was a dues change.
- 9:40It had been a cap of 500 per club.
- 9:44And then the New York State Automobile Association said, No,
- 9:48we're going to do it per member.
- 9:49Well, ACA had about 1, 200 members, which meant that their
- 9:53dues more than increased, doubled.
- 9:55So they got angry about that.
- 9:56Had a falling out.
- 9:58They fell out with the AAA.
- 9:59ACA went its own way.
- 10:01The agreement with the American Automobile Association, later on I'll
- 10:05talk about that, was who was going to be the international representative
- 10:11of the United States and who was going to be the national club for
- 10:14racing within the United States.
- 10:15That's what that's all about.
- 10:17The ACA finally came back into the AAA in the 1920s, something I was not aware of.
- 10:25My ignorance was only exceeded by my lack of knowledge of this topic, for the most
- 10:29part, until I started digging into this.
- 10:31The American Automobile Association, still around.
- 10:34Organized in 1902, as I said.
- 10:36The Racing Board was one of the original committees.
- 10:38First racing rules were issued in 1903.
- 10:42I was told they didn't exist, yet I found them.
- 10:44The Vanderbilt Cup.
- 10:45They were the sanctioning club for that.
- 10:47They actually held the first National Motor Car Championship in 1905.
- 10:52And Barney Oldsville was the winner of that championship.
- 10:55But, it kind of vanished into thin air.
- 10:58In 1907, there was no Vanderbilt Cup.
- 11:01The falling out over racing caused the International, AIACR, sided with
- 11:08the Auto Vehicle Club of America.
- 11:10An agreement was made, just like I just told you, Auto Vehicle Club of
- 11:13America would be the international organization for racing, etc.
- 11:17The AAA would do national racing, things within the United States.
- 11:22So they had that.
- 11:23The Motor Contest Association which was made of the manufacturers came
- 11:28to the AAA in early 1909 as a result of this agreement to have the AAA be
- 11:36the sanctioning body officially and be funded, and that happened in 1909.
- 11:41The AAA, and you see the dates, 1916, 1920 to 1941, and again from 1926
- 11:47to 1955, had national championships.
- 11:50The ACA was replaced.
- 11:53At the, uh, A-I-A-C-R by the AAA in 1928, particularly on the SCA, the
- 11:59International Sporting Committee.
- 12:01And then in the end of 1955, the AAA leaves racing.
- 12:05So that is a canned idea.
- 12:07It's something that, a timeframe and some explanation I was, had no idea about.
- 12:13I'd never read it anywhere.
- 12:15And for a recent historian, it was a little bit of embarrassing.
- 12:18One of the reasons I found myself going back to 1908 because it sets
- 12:21up this whole series of Conflicts and you start going back to the roots.
- 12:27American racing organizations aren't fighting, they're not doing anything.
- 12:31You go back to AAA versus IMCA.
- 12:33You go back to AAA versus NASCAR.
- 12:36USAC versus NASCAR.
- 12:37USAC versus SACA.
- 12:40USAC versus CART.
- 12:41CART versus IRL.
- 12:43IRL versus, so you get an idea.
- 12:46And I realized, look back I think, this all seems to roll back to
- 12:521908 and that conflict with ACA.
- 12:56Again, catnip for historians, this kind of started explaining things.
- 13:01The third thing that got me was season reviews.
- 13:05Prior to the end of the 1908 season, all the publications,
- 13:09whether it's Motor World, Motor Age, Horseless Age, the Automobile,
- 13:14whatever, did not do season reviews.
- 13:17But, within a week of each other, in the late end of December 1908, and
- 13:21in the first week of January 1909, you find these two season reviews
- 13:26being published, independently.
- 13:29That is a remarkable change.
- 13:31What happens is, they become an annual affair, and Motorage the next
- 13:36year, as a result of doing the season reviews, says, oh yeah, we're going
- 13:41to name a champion driver, which just happens to be Bert Dingley.
- 13:44And next year and next year, they named Champion Road Racing Driver.
- 13:49That's something that I did not catch at first.
- 13:52Champion Road Racing Driver.
- 13:53What's kind of interesting is in 1911, it's a person most of
- 13:57you probably never heard of.
- 13:58I hadn't.
- 13:59And that's Harvey Herrick.
- 14:01Champion Road Racing of the United States.
- 14:03California guy.
- 14:04Of course in 1914 is a very obvious one and that's Ralph De Palma.
- 14:08So this is something I go back again to 1908.
- 14:12This continues this idea of racing champions.
- 14:16It gets a little more complicated by 1915, it's gotten really complicated.
- 14:23On the left side of the screen, it's the racing champions 1915.
- 14:27That's in the horseless age.
- 14:28You'll see in those little box, they looked at road racing and they
- 14:32looked at And they came up with a champion, it was Earl Cooper.
- 14:36Then, in Motor Age, did road racing, and speedway racing, and track racing.
- 14:42Had three different sets of championships in one year, three different issues.
- 14:45In Motor, they had not only road racing, again that was Earl Cooper and the
- 14:51Stunts, but they also had track racing.
- 14:53So, you now have all these champions being named by periodicals.
- 14:58In 1916, however, Triple A now has an official national championship.
- 15:05Bang, there it is.
- 15:06And of course, it's Dara Resta in his Peugeot.
- 15:09But, 1917 to 1919, there was no national championship.
- 15:13In 1920, they created it again.
- 15:15But, in 1954, Rush Catlin.
- 15:20Starts publishing a history of national championship racing.
- 15:24And this is in December 1954, and he says, Robinson or Dingley?
- 15:28He looks at one set of facts that have been in the file and says,
- 15:32Yeah, there might be a question.
- 15:33And what happens is, All those champions that were being named
- 15:38by Motor Age, Postless Age, the automobile, well suddenly they
- 15:42become official champions later on.
- 15:45Now that has a lot as a historian, except for some people like Tom and a few
- 15:50others who really had looked into this.
- 15:52I found myself in the wilderness doing this topic because hardly anybody had
- 15:57looked at it as an academic, if you will.
- 16:00I had gone into the archives, various places, gone through all these journals.
- 16:05Your eyes fall out after a while, trying to sort fact from fiction,
- 16:10particularly in the 50s, 60s, 70s, when all this kind of gets altered.
- 16:15People who were never champions are now national champions.
- 16:18Which brings me to IndyCar, my last little word here.
- 16:21The trophy that they give out for the Astro Cup Challenge Cup,
- 16:25they have a base it sits on.
- 16:28On that base, it has all the national champions.
- 16:32The problem is, and this is where the historian in me just goes
- 16:37berserk, is the fact that It's wrong.
- 16:40We get up and jump up and down and go, it's wrong, we can't stand it.
- 16:44Again, historians, you ask what time is, we'll give you a history of how
- 16:48time was formed and how it was created.
- 16:50Talk about handheld calculator, we'll tell you all about calculation
- 16:54and how we got the calculator.
- 16:55This bothers me to no end.
- 16:58I have fought with IndyCar now for several years.
- 17:01You get this corrected and it's like, Thank you.
- 17:05We hear ya.
- 17:06Have a nice life.
- 17:07Don't call us.
- 17:08We're gonna call you again.
- 17:09You can't see it very well, but it starts off with 1909 and George Robinson.
- 17:14What bothers me is the 1920.
- 17:17There were five races.
- 17:18The champion that was crowned that year was the posthumous champion,
- 17:23Gaston Chevrolet, who died in the, in Los Angeles, Thanksgiving Day.
- 17:28He had enough points to be the champion.
- 17:31Not by much, but enough.
- 17:33Later, for some reason, some people with time on their hands went back.
- 17:37And looked at some other races, added them in, and suddenly it's Tommy Milton.
- 17:41And I found out when I started looking at this controversy.
- 17:45There's a wonderful person who's no longer with us, unfortunately.
- 17:47He died almost ten years ago now.
- 17:49John Glenn Prince.
- 17:51Got to know John very, very well.
- 17:53And this bothered him and it bothered me.
- 17:55There was an exchange in IndyCar Racing Magazine with
- 17:59Bob Maruso, as a matter of fact.
- 18:01As a historian, we love live and die by footnotes in our research.
- 18:07Everything I looked at led me to believe Tommy Milton, I have great admiration for.
- 18:13Wonderful driver, one of the best.
- 18:15He deserved his championship in 1921.
- 18:18But it was a gas and Chevrolet.
- 18:20Yeah, IndyCar, most often, they say one thing, but when you look at what they have
- 18:25on their website, for instance, it still leads you to believe it's Tommy Milton.
- 18:30And that was part of how I got back to 1908.
- 18:36See how historians work?
- 18:38I never dreamed that that one year could be so influential.
- 18:42But the rise of the road racing, that schism between the organizations, and
- 18:48again, this whole idea, something as innocuous as those seasoned reviews.
- 18:54All that kind of comes together.
- 18:57It makes my heart really sore when we have people out there who say, yeah,
- 19:02I think I can start tracking on this.
- 19:05Thank you for the patience.
- 19:06And if there's any questions, forget it.
- 19:08I'm not going to answer, no, but quite seriously, thank you.
- 19:12This is a work of love.
- 19:15Not just this presentation, but what you guys are doing.
- 19:18I think what happened in 08 was there were a lot of European
- 19:22cars that came over here.
- 19:24And they had to have a place to run them.
- 19:26I think that was one of them.
- 19:28And you're absolutely right on that Vanderbilt Cup thing.
- 19:31And that's one of the things that the Speedway Museum has
- 19:34pointed out to those guys.
- 19:35That Tommy Milton was everybody's fan favorite, but he drove the Duesenbergs
- 19:40and he was a kind of a fair haired boy.
- 19:43But Gaston Chevrolet was the guy that won it.
- 19:45We've told them about that.
- 19:47Also, I want to say that the Speedway Museum has all of the AAA records.
- 19:51All of the AAA records, and they're available for anybody
- 19:55to come and take a look at.
- 19:56But I think what happened in 08 was the fact that you had a
- 19:59lot of European cars that were running around and they came over.
- 20:02Mercedes, especially.
- 20:04What you got was a sanitized version of the 8 hour lecture.
- 20:08Because you're absolutely correct.
- 20:10The appearance of European cars, particularly from about 03, 04, up
- 20:16until the beginning of the 20s, that had a lot to do with this creation.
- 20:20Again, I had to pack a lot down, but you hit it spot on.
- 20:24The number of European automobiles on the track, not just on the road courses,
- 20:30but on the tracks themselves, meant that at some point, particularly in
- 20:3506 07, that there was going to be some transition point where this all came up.
- 20:40I would have mentioned it, but I will now, had not been for those files that
- 20:45I got access to, thank you, IMRCA, that I got access because of the
- 20:51connections we meet here to those files.
- 20:54I had the microfilm copies that were made by Gordon White, courtesy
- 20:59of the museum, those things.
- 21:00That was a revelation.
- 21:02You're absolutely correct.
- 21:03That changed everything for me.
- 21:05That really added.
- 21:07Substance and context, all those little things that weren't making sense.
- 21:12I think that was why it was all catnip.
- 21:15None of this was making sense.
- 21:16But as you correctly pointed out, there was this, there was this.
- 21:20All these things came together.
- 21:22And like I said, 1908 just happened to be the year That I saw this sort
- 21:28of synergy begin to shift things.
- 21:32Because if you look from 1907 back, then you look at 08 forward, there really
- 21:38is a definite change in American rates.
- 21:40It has to take a long view, but that really is a change.
- 21:43Now, give credit where credit's due.
- 21:45It had not been for the International Motor Racing Research Center, a lot
- 21:49of what I have just talked to you about would not have been possible.
- 21:53Resources here, contacts made through here, open doors, made things happen.
- 21:59So that's one of the reasons this is important to have this type of exchange.
- 22:04This is why we exist.
- 22:06This is what it's all about.
- 22:08This is my little donation to this ocean of knowledge.
- 22:11My little drops in there.
- 22:13This is why we form this.
- 22:16Mike Arkensinger and I.
- 22:18Talked about this for ages.
- 22:20Then, unfortunately, Mike passed away.
- 22:22Dr.
- 22:22Pat Young, Professor Emeritus of Literature at the University of Houston,
- 22:26along with, uh, myself and a great crew, put together this initial one.
- 22:32We only had three people.
- 22:34And this is the sort of thing I wanted to get talked about.
- 22:37I get emotional about it when it's talked about.
- 22:40This is one of the places created by Gene Oregon Singer so that people
- 22:44like me and other people here to come together, do research, share
- 22:50our findings, and make things happen.
- 22:53So, anyway, thank you very much for your patience.
- 23:01I'll go back to my microphone.
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