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Hangin' Out with Bob (and his buddy, Tom Madigan) · Hangin' Out with Bob

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All right. Hello and welcome to "Hangin' Out with
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Bob," a podcast hosted by me, Bob Edholm. Thanks
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for joining us and let's get started. Hangin'
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Out with Bob" is a podcast where I let my guests
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tell us their stories, where they grew up, where
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they've lived since then, what they're doing
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now. What are their pleasures? What do they like
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to do? as Sheriff Bart said to The Waco Kid in
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his jail cell. I'm not sure you want me to share
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that. Probably not the same interest, but that's
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what we'll go with. OK, with that, let me introduce
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my guest today. You heard him just for a second
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there. It's Tom Madigan. We've known each other
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since the mid -70s. We didn't grow up in the
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same towns or attend the same schools growing
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up, but we've known each other for about a half
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century. So I think it's safe to say that we
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are, as Carl Spackler said to Ty Webb in "Caddyshack,"
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"buddies for life." Absolutely. Now, it's funny,
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even with a good, solid Irish name like Madigan,
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone who addressed
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Tom as Madigan, like in, "Hey, Madigan, how's
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it going, Madigan," that kind of stuff. Not on
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the golf course, not at a Gopher football game,
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not on the basketball court or virtually any
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kind of get-together we've had over the years.
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So at some point in his life, his last name became
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or was morphed into "Mad Dog." I'm sure it's a
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reference to the wrestler Mad Dog Vacho. And
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then just plain "Dog." So during this podcast,
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if you hear me calling my guest "Dog," it's not
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a term of derision, okay? So anyway, thanks for
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hanging out with us on this podcast, Dog. I'm
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going to step back for a few moments now and
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I'm going to let my guest, Tom Madigan, in his
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own basso profundo voice (that's Italian for
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deep bass), and I'm going to have him tell us
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a little bit about himself. Oh wait, sorry, before
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I get started, our listeners should know that
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Tom loves to play golf. So here's one for you.
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Why does a golfer wear two pairs of pants? I
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have no idea. In case he got a hole in one. All
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right, so I've never had one, unfortunately.
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But you still bring two pairs of pants. Yeah,
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right. OK, just in case. So take it away, Dog.
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It's yours. Tell us. Tell us about yourself.
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Thanks, Bob. It's really great to be here. I
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grew up in Waseca, southern Minnesota. My parents,
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my dad worked for the railroad. My mom worked
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at home and my dad was a railroad engineer
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for 38 years. I've lost my parents, gosh, in
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1990. It was when my dad passed and my mom died
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in 91. My dad died of a heart attack. My mom
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died of ovarian cancer the following year. So
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it's been a long time I've been without family
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down there, but I just celebrated my 50th class
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reunion down there. I got the honor of being
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a master of ceremonies for it. It was a lot of
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fun. I had a really good time. It was a great
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turnout, a lot of people there. Grew up there
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and then I went to Winona State and that's where
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you and I connected was at Winona State. I went
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there for two years, did some pre-engineering
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there. I'm a civil engineer by education and
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then transferred up to University of Minnesota,
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where you also went, and finished up my degree
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there and after about four or five years I ended
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up going to University of St. Thomas and got
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my master's in business administration from St.
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Thomas in St. Paul. and did that and worked
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as a civil engineer primarily. As a City Engineer
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and Polar Works Director around the Twin Cities
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area, I started out at the City of Columbia Heights,
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another connection for the two of us. Lived in
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Columbia Heights for several years. After we
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connected through Nate Pafko, Nate was at Winona
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State with me. Nate died, unfortunately, of cancer
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back when he was, what, 23? Just a kid, yeah.
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Nate and I got to be really good friends down
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at then, and, you know, obviously he connected
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me with you and your brother, Dave, and a lot
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of the other guys. Randy Borchardt was also down
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at Winona State and got to meet Randy and was
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also from Columbia Heights. So that's my connection
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to you guys. And like you said, we've been friends
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a very, very long time. So I worked as an engineer
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in the Twin Cities. I worked in my hometown.
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I worked quite a bit in southern Minnesota on
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different projects. And as I said, I started
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out as assistant city engineer at Columbia Heights
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and did that for several years. So that's kind
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of my background. Right now I'm doing, I'm an
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adjunct professor for, of all places, University
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of New Mexico. My wife and I lived there for
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eight years. I bought a house there after I retired
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from full-time. Santa Fe. In Santa Fe. Yep.
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And did that. I'm still doing it. My course has
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always been online, so I teach spring semester.
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I just finished my seventh year this spring,
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and I'll start into my eighth year next winter.
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Wow, nice, nice. Okay, thanks, Doug. Okay, again,
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the name of the podcast is "Hangin'g Out with Bob."
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I'm your host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today
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is Tom Madigan. aka Dog. Okay, now that Tom Madigan
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has told us a little bit about himself, I want
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to learn just a little bit more about his hometown,
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Waseca, Minnesota. When I looked up Waseca on
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Wikipedia, it stated that Waseca is about 80
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miles or so south of the Twin Cities of Minneapolis
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and St. Paul. And the name itself, Wasca, is
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a Dakota language word meaning "rich in provisions."
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Did you know that? I wouldn't have known, had I
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not looked it up, I wouldn't have known. But I actually
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want to hear more about you, Dog, in your own
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words, what it was like for you to grow up in
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Waseca. Tell us about the places where you and
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your friends would hang out, what you did during
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the summertime, the different seasons, you know,
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skated, swam, played baseball, that kind of stuff.
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What was Waseca like in the 60s and 70s? Well,
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I want to clarify one thing. just to give you
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a little background, because Mad Dog, that story
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came from, I had a first cousin, Frank Madigan,
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that was a year older than me, and Frank Madigan,
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Mad Dog, that's really where it came from. Ah,
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it wasn't the wrestler? No, it was not. He had
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a couple of close friends that ended up going
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to Winona State too, and they called him Mad
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Dog, because one of the guys that went to Winona
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State was Moon Dog, and you can... Kind of consider
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the reference to what they were talking about
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with Moon Dog and that whole story about, you
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know what, pulling down your pants and mooning
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somebody. So that's where that came from and because
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I went to school with those guys went on the
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state. Obviously you guys picked up that they
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were calling me Mad Dog, right? Right, and that's
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how that came about. Yeah, Waseca. Back then it
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was about a town of 5 ,000. It was a railroad
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town and agriculture town for the most part. I
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grew up not too far from the University of Minnesota,
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Waseca campus back then. Now it's a medium security
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women's prison, I think now. But we were just
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a couple blocks in there and we used their facilities
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all the time. I played baseball probably three
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times a day. You know, I'd go in the morning,
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play ball, come home for lunch and then go back
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and play ball in the afternoon and come home
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for dinner and then go back and play in the evening
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in the summer. And so I was really active in
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sports. I mean, you could ride your bike and
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get around anywhere in town. I felt very comfortable
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going. You know, I played some golf. I started
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playing golf when I was like 12. And I'd throw
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the clubs on my back and ride my bike all the
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way out to the golf course, which is on the other
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side of town, but it's not that far in a smaller
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town, so it wasn't that far to go. It was like
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in Columbia Heights or someplace where you're
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going into Minneapolis. Lakeville to Ham Lake.
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Yeah, exactly. So it so, you know, that's what
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I did. I played a lot of sports. I wasn't particularly
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good at anything, but I really enjoyed playing.
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I still do. Obviously, I play golf. I just finished.
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I'm playing up at Bunker Hills and the Cedar
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Rapids here in Coon Rapids. Just played yesterday
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morning and it's been a lot of fun. I ran into
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two guys yesterday I played with. They were from
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Montana, of all things. So I got a chance to
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connect with those guys. That was really fun.
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So I'm meeting a lot of guys and doing a lot
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of stuff there. And but, you know, it was a safe
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town. I had a lot of family there in my neighborhood.
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We could put two baseball teams together, you
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know, different ages, but all similar ages. And
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so we could put nine on nine on a field. And
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like I said, we'd use University of Minnesota
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fields and we played football over there. Everything
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was there. And just to clarify, these weren't
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organized leagues. No, no, no. We call them sandlot.
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There's a sandlot. It doesn't exist anymore.
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Show me a ballpark where it's kids playing baseball
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anymore. Unless it's an organized thing and their
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parents are yelling at the umpire. No doubt about
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it, Bob. It's sad because kids today can't organize
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themselves like we could. We could put team...
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And we had to communicate and pick sides. And
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we had to negotiate that. And that skill is not
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there anymore either, the ability to negotiate.
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So it was really good. And no uniforms. No uniforms,
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heavens no. Although, you know, I played summer
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league and we got a t-shirt. Yeah, yeah. I did
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that too. For baseball. But the pickup games
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were, that was the rule. I mean, that's what
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you did. Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of my experience
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in Waseca. Good place to grow up. Yeah. Good
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place to grow up. You know, I never did see your
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actual neighborhood there. When we were down
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there back in the mid -70s in the softball
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tournament, I never saw where you lived. But
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describe your neighborhood. Was it? Was your
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folks house a new house or new development? Yeah,
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my grandmother, I grew up right next door to
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my dad's mother, my grandmother. She had a double
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lot and the lot that we built her house on was
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her garden. So my dad bought the lot for my grandmother
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right after I was born. And they built a brand
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new house in 1956 on that lot. And that's where
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I grew up. And we were four doors from Birds Eye.
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General Foods plant. So yeah, I mean that was
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the big business employer. I did a stint, a couple
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stints there. I worked pea pack. They were getting
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peas and then I worked at corn pack as well.
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Is that still there? Yes it is. Because I do
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buy, I buy Birds Eye all the time frozen vegetables.
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It went to Dean Foods for a while and I think
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it might have gone back to Birds Eye again.
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I'm not sure about that. They also made Cool
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Whip there. back in the day. So I don't know
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if they still do that there anymore or not. Like
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I said, I'm disconnected from the town now. Other
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than going down for my reunion. Yeah, yeah. Your
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neighborhood or that area down there, I mentioned
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in a previous podcast that the house where my
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brothers and I grew up in, in Columbia Heights,
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was actually a golf course until the mid -1940s.
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Hilltop Golf Course. Do you know the history
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of your land or was it just kind of farmland?
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You know, as far back as I am aware of, it was
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spent housing. I mean, my grandmother's house
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was very old next door. So it was housing a long
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time. I grew up, there was two tracks that crossed
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each other, railroad tracks. I was a block basically
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from each track. Oh boy. So you heard trains
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all the time? All the time. Okay. All the time
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trains. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Well, great. Thanks.
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Thanks for listening. All right. Again, the name
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of the podcast is "Hangin' Out with Bob." I'm your
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host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today is Tom Madigan.
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You know, you talked about growing up in Waseca,
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but talk a little bit more about once you finished
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graduating from the University of Minnesota and
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you started working up here. Talk about some
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of the fun places you remember going to during
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those years in the 80s and 90s, you know, football
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games and that kind of stuff. Just kind of talk
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about the things that you did up here for fun
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and that kind of stuff. I don't think I went
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to any of the sporting events when I was in college
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at the Uuniversity. Too busy studying. Yeah, I
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was too busy studying at an engineering school.
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But, you know, once I got out of college, you
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know, we were going and we never, you know, Bob,
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you would go with us and a lot of the other guys,
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your brother and that. We never paid for tickets
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ahead of time. Right. You know, there was always
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this one scalper, remember, at the football games
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at Memorial (Stadium)? Yeah, sure. He always had tickets.
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And we just waited till that game started. Yep.
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And then he was... The price would go down. The
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price would go down. Yeah, we were playing less
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than the face value of the tickets and going.
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And, you know, we'd be at Stub and Herbs. That
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was our hangout, right? Stub and Herbs. Great
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place. And we did that. You know, I just drove
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by there. I took my wife, Sandee, around there
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just last week. Yeah. Just to... Remember, you
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know, just a lot of thought and memories about
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to go there again. Sometimes. Yeah, we really
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years for me. So, yeah, it would be fun. We need
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to make that happen. But, you know, that was
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in back when I moved, I came up in 76 to he University
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and. You know, you go around the Twin Cities,
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it was a lot less crowded. Yeah, it really was.
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I remember going around the lakes, you know,
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the chain and. there wasn't the traffic. It just
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wasn't. It was a different time then. It really
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was. But it was a fun time, too. I really enjoyed
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my experience. Once I got done with college,
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I took that job with Columbia Heights, and I
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got an apartment in Columbia Heights, and it
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was a lower-level apartment, and lived there
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for several years. And then, if you remember
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back then, interest rates were like through the
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roof. Yeah, double digits. Yeah, it was double
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digits. And the federal government had a program
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that they would subsidize first-time homeowners
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with interest rates, and I got 11 .9 % interest
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rates. Because you're getting the deal, right?
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Yeah, because it was like 19%. Yes. It was ridiculous
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how high. And people today are worked up over
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what, 6 -7 %? Really? I know, I know. Very different
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world. Yeah. So, you know, then, you know, I
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worked up here and then we'd, you know, we'd
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hang out on the weekends and, and hit different
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bars and, and we'd go out to, oh, it was Garcia's
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out on 12. Sure. Remember that. And then Pracna on
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Main and that whole area was a lot of fun down
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there. And there's a lot of bars and restaurants
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in that area. I just thought of another restaurant
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that we'd go to a lot because we'd play basketball.
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Talk about, well, it was called the Sunshine
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Factory. Sunshine Factory. In New Hope. But talk
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about the "Friday Night Hoops." We did that. a
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bunch of Heights guys for at least seven, eight
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years. Oh, yeah. It was a long time. And we were
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playing like twice a week, right? We were playing.
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Oh, that's right. Brooklyn Center had a school.
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Brooklyn Center had an elementary school. Was
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that Tuesday night we played there? Yeah. And
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then Friday night was over in Winnetka Elementary,
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right? Winneta Elementary, which is no longer
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there anymore. They've got a townhouse built
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there. I didn't realize that they had torn it
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down. What I thought was so neat about Winnetka
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is, one, the court wasn't that long. It was full
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court we'd play, but it was a shorter court.
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It wasn't NBA size. But it had wooden floors.
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And it had a locker room. So we'd get all sweated
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up, and then we could at least clean up afterwards.
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And then go to the Sunshine Factory. Well, the
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biggest moment for us is when, in 1980, when
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the hockey games, U.S. vs. Russia. And we got
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the janitor who was working to pipe it in in
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the court for us to listen to. And that was just
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special. And then we went over to the Muni, I
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think, in Robbinsdale. Wasn't there someplace?
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I can't remember where that was. I thought it
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was kind of on the way to Osseo or something.
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It could have been. Well, yeah, because just
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for the ... benefit of people that don't remember
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or weren't around then. That game wasn't even
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televised live. It was on a radio station. KSTP
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picked it up, but it was actually a feed from
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Canada. I mean, there was no importance on the
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game. They thought there's no way they're going
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to beat the Soviets. But then, you know, they
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pull off the upset of the century. But when we
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went to that bowling alley bar or whatever. As
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I recall they replayed the game. So it's like
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we got to see the whole thing. We knew the outcome,
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but we got to watch the game. Which is just special.
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We knew what was going to happen. Which even
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made it more special because we weren't sweating
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the game at all. It was like, oh, we know what's
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going to happen. Just seeing it was so much fun.
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Definitely. Good memory. Thanks for bringing
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that up. As I mentioned at the outset, Doug,
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you and I have known each other for almost 50
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years. Gerald Ford was president then, and as
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you look back, I'm just wondering if there's,
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in the times we spent together, if you can think
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of one moment that still makes you laugh out
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loud. I'll share mine first and maybe it'll spark
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a memory in your head. It was in the spring of
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1981, okay? We were both in our 20s, and we had
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tickets for a North Star hockey game. It was
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against Calgary. It was in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
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We didn't drive ourselves to the Met Center though.
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I can't even say it without laughing. We met
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at the Columbia Heights Municipal Lounge, The
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Powerhouse, and then we got on a school bus.
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But there's a whole bunch of fans that were getting
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on the school bus. And I remember in the first
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row, remember what was in the first row of that
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bus? Keg. With complimentary plastic cups. Yeah.
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So people are during the bus ride up to Met Center
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walking up there. And they were still, they were
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bringing their own booze on besides the keg.
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It was just wild. And you know the people had
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had a few before they even got on the bus. And
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then going to the game and coming home and they
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still had the keg. Do you remember that time
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the bus? took a turn on 35, it kind of goes east.
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And that guy was standing here by the keg, but
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he took the turn, the driver took the turn a
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little too hard. And he, and he like smacked
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his head into the passenger window, but somehow
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he still had both hands of beer. He didn't spill
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anything. Head first into the window, but he
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held onto that beer. So, oh, that was just, so
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anyway, I just, when I think about that, I started
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thinking about that and just laughing and remembering
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it. You know, what I remember is a trip you and
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I took out west. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went
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to Phoenix. Yes. And I had a college roommate
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that was in grad school. Yes. At Arizona State.
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Yep. And we stayed actually in the dorm with
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him. Yes. He was in a dorm. This guy's like,
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what, 23, 24 years old? He's living in a dorm.
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And it was just wild. Just absolutely wild night.
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And then we drove across over to LA. Yes, in
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that little Pinto we rented. Little Ford Pinto.
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Little Pinto that we had rented. And then we
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went and watched basketball at Arizona State
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in Tempe. And it was a it was a regionals, right?
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Yes for NC2A It wasn't a 64 team tournament back
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then was like it was half that size. It was half
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that size So you didn't have to play as many
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games to get to the Final Four, but still it
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was it was important They were important every
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game was important. Yeah, you know, so yeah,
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so and we just walked up We we were over by the
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football stadium. Yep, and we just per chance
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walked over the ticket office and apparently,
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one of the teams had returned some seats that
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weren't sold. And we were like, what, mid -court?
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Really nice seats. Like 17 rows up, something
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like that. It was ridiculous seats. And very
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reasonable. And we watched both games. It was
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just incredible. Yeah, it was UCLA upset DePaul
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in the first game. And then, no, Ohio State.
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Arizona State because they were playing at home.
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But yeah, that's right. And NBC was doing the
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games back then. So we got to see Dick Enberg
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and Al McGuire and Billy Packer. L.A. got into
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court. Yeah, it was fun. It was fantastic. It
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was great. It really was. And like I said, we
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drove out to L.A. and then I had a high school
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buddy that was going to UCLA. Yeah. And we stayed
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with those guys. And that was just a... crazy,
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because we watched UCLA play the next game with
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them. Right. And one of the guys jumped on a
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coffee table and smashed it into pieces because
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they won. And it was just, it was just. It was
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Ohio State, right? Yeah, they beat Ohio State.
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It was just crazy. Yeah. And there was so many
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laughs on that trip. It was. It really was. I
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went to Disneyland even. We went to Disneyland.
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And who do we run into at Disneyland? Oh. Marty
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Feldman, Igor, Igor. Yeah, that's right. That's
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right. Just a great, great memory. Great memory.
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Again, the name of this podcast is "Hangin' Out
20:11
with Bob." I'm your host,
20:14
Bob Edholm. And my guest today is Tom
20:16
Madigan, or Dog. It's been over 20 years, Dog,
20:20
since you've actually been a full-time resident
20:22
of Minnesota. Just briefly talk about the places
20:24
that you lived in the 21st century then. Well,
20:27
after I finished working full-time, and that
20:32
was 2016, I guess that was when I retired full
20:37
-time, we moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico. From
20:40
Hudson, Wisconsin. Well, we sold our house in
20:43
Hudson in 2015, and my wife and I rented an apartment
20:51
right across from from the Farmer's Market. Right.
20:55
In St. Paul. Did they close the ballpark too
20:57
with the Saints? Yeah, right. I mean, literally
20:58
a half a block from the Saints ballpark. And
21:01
we lived there for a year while they finished
21:03
construction on our house. We built a brand new
21:06
house in Santa Fe. It was out in the country.
21:08
You've been there. Yeah, beautiful place. And
21:11
so we built that place. So we lived in St. Paul
21:13
for a year in that apartment. And then, you know,
21:15
we moved out and then moved down to Santa Fe.
21:17
And we spent eight years, almost nine years there.
21:20
And then, you know, we moved to back here part
21:24
time where I'm in Blaine now. I have a townhouse
21:27
in Blaine and I have a townhouse in Gold Canyon,
21:29
Arizona now. So we're snowbirds. Gold Canyon
21:32
is a nice suburb of Phoenix. Yeah, very east
21:35
side of Phoenix. Right. Yeah. So I walked. 50
21:38
yards on a golf course down there. It's a really
21:40
nice setup. And our place up here in Blaine is,
21:44
you know, two quarters of a mile from the TPC
21:46
tournament players course in Blaine. So really
21:48
good spot. And you've got lakes and water. So
21:50
I got water up here and then I go down there
21:53
and I got desert in the winter time and get out
21:55
of the cold. So that's what we're doing these
21:56
days. It's virtually half and half, right? I
21:58
mean, you're a resident of Arizona, but you spend
22:00
the winter. We're a resident of Arizona. You
22:02
got to be there six months and a day. Yeah. Yeah.
22:04
You know, from an a tax standpoint. Right. Right.
22:06
Yeah. Kind of half and half. Well, it's the best
22:08
of both worlds. You've got the nice weather here.
22:10
Yeah, so far so good. You know, and you know,
22:12
we've got all of our family up here. I've got
22:14
three granddaughters. I got a 10-year-old, a
22:16
five-year-old and a two-year-old granddaughter.
22:18
My son and his wife are in Hudson. They still
22:23
live in Hudson. Which is basically the Twin Cities
22:24
metro area. And my daughter is in New Brighton. Yeah,
22:27
yeah. So we've got family here. So that makes
22:29
sense. Yep. Cool. So all righty. All right. Well,
22:34
last topic for this podcast, Dog. This has been
22:36
fun. Absolutely. I wanted to just ask you, these
22:41
can be quick answer stuff. Tell me about your
22:44
favorites while you were growing up. You and
22:46
I are both Boomers, and the things that we were
22:48
interested in and like to do and did. Younger
22:51
kids today won't know what the heck we're talking
22:52
about, but let's talk about it anyway. What was
22:54
your favorite TV show or name one or two that
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you just remember watching when you were growing
23:01
up? Well, we watched "MASH." For sure. You know,
23:04
that was a great show. "All in the Family," back
23:07
in the day, because it was ground setting, really.
23:10
You know, when you think about the topics and
23:12
the things that were discussed on "All in the Family,"
23:14
they were really strong back then. You know,
23:16
I still watch it. Do you really? No, it's on
23:19
one of these Channel 9 stations. Okay. But it's
23:21
on, they have back-to-back episodes weeknights,
23:23
like from seven to eight. Yeah. And it brings
23:25
back memories watching it. I remember watching
23:27
it. I remember when it was first on. I remember
23:29
when I was dating Sandee, my wife. uh, "Cheers"
23:33
reruns were on late at night and, you know, she
23:36
was living in St. Paul and I was living up in,
23:38
uh, you know, Columbia Heights. And, uh, we'd
23:41
be talking on the phone, watching "Cheers" together.
23:44
She'd have it on and I'd have it on. You know,
23:46
so "Cheers" was, "Cheers" was another one. And then
23:49
I was out in, uh, LA, um, I had a friend of mine
23:54
in Santa Fe that belonged to Wilshire Country
23:56
Club and asked if he wanted to come out and play.
23:59
And another buddy of mine from Denver and I went
24:00
out there and we got a tour of Paramount Studios.
24:04
And that's where "Cheers" was filmed. Oh, okay.
24:06
Yeah. Yeah. And the story that their last filming,
24:10
Woody Harrelson and Ted Danson stripped down
24:13
naked. And it was at night. Okay. And they ran
24:17
naked through Paramount Studios. through the
24:20
streets of Paramount Studios. It's a great story.
24:25
Yeah. "Cheers." Oh yeah. Well, that's hilarious.
24:30
I did not know about that. So, all right. What
24:33
was your favorite? Band or bands? Well, that's
24:37
a hard one, Bob. I mean, I've got a lot of groups
24:39
I really like. I'd have to say probably Steely
24:43
Dan. I've seen them twice in person. Just saw
24:46
them back up to the Eagles here in Phoenix in
24:50
January. And I'll tell you, the Eagles is up
24:52
there too. Led Zeppelin. Chicago was a big band
24:56
that I really liked a lot. I've seen them in
24:58
person twice. So that's another band. But I'd
25:00
have to say probably Steely Dan. What regular
25:06
stations could you pick up down there? Well,
25:08
you know, I listen to the Twins, obviously, on
25:11
CCO. Yeah, but WDGY back then. You could get
25:15
1130 AM down there. WDGY. Back after, you know,
25:20
in college and then after college, the station
25:22
I really liked a lot was U-100. I don't know
25:25
if you remember that. I do remember that. It
25:27
was very eclectic. It was like an alternative
25:28
rock station. It really was. On AM. Yeah, it
25:30
was on, but it was... Really, really good. And
25:33
there's a station in Santa Fe, I think I talked
25:36
to you about it. Yep, you've told me about it.
25:37
And it's called Radio Free Santa Fe. It's 98
25:40
.5. And it's the same kind of music, you know,
25:44
very eclectic, just a broad spectrum. And it's
25:46
not predictable, is it? No, no, not at all. You
25:48
just played that three hours ago. No, they'll
25:50
play local groups and they'll play old stuff
25:53
right then, you know. It's alternative and it's
25:55
really, really good. Not a real structured format.
25:57
No, not at all. Yeah, I love stuff like that.
25:59
I love that so much. I actually went and got
26:01
a t-shirt from them. I don't really do that,
26:03
but I did go and got a t-shirt from them. No,
26:06
that's nice. Alright, okay again, the name of
26:10
this podcast is "Hangin' Out with Bob" and I'm
26:12
your host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today has
26:14
been Tom Madigan As you've heard me call him
26:16
throughout the podcast, Dog This was fun, Dog.
26:19
It's fun to look back. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks
26:21
I know we're just scratch the surface of things
26:23
that we can talk about and I'm thinking ahead
26:25
already I know we can do we can do what entire
26:28
podcast talk about just sports or absolutely
26:31
music or movies that kind of stuff just name
26:33
a few things right and And while it's been fun
26:37
that we're doing this here in Minnesota, here
26:39
in the Heights, Columbia Heights, I'm looking
26:41
forward to a remote podcast with you too. We
26:43
can do that when you're down in Phoenix and,
26:45
you know, you can just hook up my phone and you
26:47
can... Pick me up on your phone. We can do stuff
26:49
like that. Perfect. And I'm thinking even maybe
26:52
even doing recording a podcast down there next
26:55
time. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. I could put
26:56
my stuff, this stuff in a suitcase. I only need
26:58
this little pod track four and a couple of mics
27:01
and headphones and we can do it there. Give me
27:03
a nice excuse to come down to Arizona, you know,
27:05
so we can do that. Get out of the cold. Yep,
27:07
get out of the cold. So again, I want to thank
27:09
you again for joining us, Dog. It was really
27:11
fun. So thanks for that. The fans loved it too.
27:20
Alright. Again, I just want to thank you. I know
27:25
you're going to be going back to Arizona probably
27:27
next month. October. Okay, so we got a little
27:30
bit of time. I'm just glad we made time for this
27:32
one today. So again, appreciate it. And I'm going
27:36
to use this quote again. As Carl said to Ty in
27:41
"Caddyshack," "If you ever want to rap or just get
27:44
weird together with somebody, you know, buddies
27:46
for life," right? Sounds good. Absolutely. Thanks,
27:49
Bob. Appreciate it. All right. Well, you know,
27:51
everyone has a story to tell, and I believe most
27:53
people like to tell their stories to talk about
27:55
the things they like to do, the things that interest
27:57
them. They just need to hang out with someone
27:59
like me so they can be asked those kinds of questions,
28:02
right? Alright, I have so many friends in mind
28:06
that I want to have his future guests, family,
28:09
friends, people I grew up with, people I worked
28:12
with, people I've drunk beer with. To our listeners
28:15
again, thanks for hanging out with me, Bob Edholm.
28:17
We hope you'll be back for our next episode.
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And until then, bye!