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MOM'S CHILLING POST BEFORE SHE & TWINS, 6, SHOT DEAD IN MANSION, BITTER DIVORCE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful young mom of
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  Speaker 1: twins chilling post just before she and her two little twins,
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  Speaker 1: aged six years old, are shot dead in the family mansion,
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  Speaker 1: this amidst a bitter, acrimonious, poisonous divorce.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 4: Charity bialis, a dedicated mother of three, is determined to
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  Speaker 4: rebuild her life after divorce and protect her children. What
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  Speaker 4: she doesn't know is that the nightmare she's been trying
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  Speaker 4: to escape is only just beginning.
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  Speaker 5: Before I go into the facts of how Charity, a
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  Speaker 5: licensed practical nurse with her own practice.
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  Speaker 2: Was found dead, shot twice.
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  Speaker 5: And from what I can tell, and I've been on
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  Speaker 5: plenty of homicide cases, this is not a suicide murder.
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  Speaker 2: She is shot twice.
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  Speaker 5: We've been told, in the chest and the head. That
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  Speaker 5: was not a suicide.
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  Speaker 2: But get this.
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  Speaker 5: Her two little twin children six years old, also dead
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  Speaker 5: from gunshot wounds. That is the golden ticket. Right there.
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  Speaker 5: A boy and a girl, twins, three of them gunned
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  Speaker 5: down in their own home. There's another child. There's another child.
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  Speaker 5: His name is John Powell. He is Charity's oldest son,
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  Speaker 5: and joining us tonight two very special guests, her son
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  Speaker 5: John Powell, who is fighting for her in court as
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  Speaker 5: we go to air tonight, and whom many people consider
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  Speaker 5: to be Charity's soulmate, her father joining us, Randy Powell. Gentlemen,
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  Speaker 5: thank you for being with us tonight, and thank.
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  Speaker 6: You thanks for having us. It really means a lot.
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  Speaker 5: To both of you, our deep, deep sympathies, and I
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  Speaker 5: know we can't make you feel any better, but at
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  Speaker 5: some point, please know there are thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 5: people out there that are praying for you and your
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  Speaker 5: pain that you're going through. Matte John, when did you
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  Speaker 5: learn and how did you learn your mother, Charity had
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  Speaker 5: been killed?
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  Speaker 7: I went to work, just a normal day, and before
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  Speaker 7: I got out of work, I was getting text through
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  Speaker 7: Facebook and text message that something bad had happened, and
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  Speaker 7: nobody would tell me.
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  Speaker 6: Really what it was, but something bad had happened.
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  Speaker 8: And when I got home i left work, my grandfather
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  Speaker 8: told me that people was already telling him through Facebook
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  Speaker 8: and things that my mother and baby brother and sister
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  Speaker 8: had been killed.
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  Speaker 5: So you find out through basically digital media and then
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  Speaker 5: start getting out of these calls. When did law enforcement
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  Speaker 5: come and tell you?
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  Speaker 6: They didn't? They never did.
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  Speaker 9: We had to contact them and wait for a call
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  Speaker 9: back from them. I had to reach out to a
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  Speaker 9: man I went to school with that the sheriff in
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  Speaker 9: a different county, and he got in touch with the corner,
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  Speaker 9: and the corner told him.
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  Speaker 10: It was okay to confirmed to me that they were
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  Speaker 10: all dead. And then my daughter was shot twice and
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  Speaker 10: the babies were shot through the chest, and.
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  Speaker 5: That's how we found out, okay, I just got to
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  Speaker 5: cut the chase. The husband, the doctor, how was he
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  Speaker 5: regarded in the community. I don't understand why law enforcement
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't come and tell you what happened.
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  Speaker 10: Well, he had millions of dollars that he had soon
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  Speaker 10: as she followed a divorce and handed it out to
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  Speaker 10: anybody that would receptive of it. And I can't answer
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  Speaker 10: that question to one. They wouldn't come and tell me.
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  Speaker 10: They told me that they didn't have time, and that
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  Speaker 10: they didn't know how to get in touch with me
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  Speaker 10: was their excuse.
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  Speaker 6: They're sorry, they didn't know how to get in touch
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  Speaker 6: with me.
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  Speaker 5: Mister Powell Randy Powell, Charity's father. When Charity married doctor
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  Speaker 5: Bilis Bellois. Did she know he had another wife that
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  Speaker 5: died of a gunshot wound?
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  Speaker 3: Did she know that going into this, Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am, she did.
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  Speaker 11: Bi Alis, a highly regarded doctor specializing in family and
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  Speaker 11: hospital medicine, was previously married to Shawna Jeanette Graham. Billis
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  Speaker 11: a practical nurse who died in twenty twelve by a
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  Speaker 11: gunshot wound to the head at the age of thirty four.
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  Speaker 11: Her death was ruled self inflicted, but Shawna's family said
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  Speaker 11: the death scene never made sense.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I've got so many directions I need to run
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  Speaker 5: down with that, But let me state right now that
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  Speaker 5: doctor Biellis is not named a suspect.
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  Speaker 3: In this case. He is not named a person of interest.
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  Speaker 5: His lawyer has sent us a really long statement that
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  Speaker 5: says he had nothing to do.
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  Speaker 3: With Charity's death.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure they feel the same way about the first
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  Speaker 5: wife's gunshot wound. They also state that Charity, miss Billis
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  Speaker 5: now did, with her two children, made false accusations against
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  Speaker 5: him in the past and it was all a lie.
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  Speaker 5: But wait, notice a moment right there, I thought her husband,
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  Speaker 5: the doctor, pled guilty to domestic assault strangling her choking her.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, he pled guilty and the kids were there and
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  Speaker 6: that's all on file.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this says that that I'm holding up a letter
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  Speaker 5: from them, a very lengthy letter.
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  Speaker 3: I might add, by Michael D.
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  Speaker 5: Pierce, who's the lawyer who says that Charity made false
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  Speaker 5: accusations against him.
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  Speaker 3: But you're telling me he played guilty. Isn't that right?
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  Speaker 6: Correct? You correct?
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  Speaker 5: And again the lawyer for doctor Biella says he had
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  Speaker 5: nothing to do with Charity's death. A couple of questions
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  Speaker 5: lightning around to Doug Warner.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, the first wife.
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  Speaker 5: Shawna, was found dead by law enforcement after they responded
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  Speaker 5: to a welfare check request.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right that the exact circumstances, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 12: I just know after the family could not reach her,
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  Speaker 12: that she was being discovered with at least one gunshot.
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  Speaker 3: Win Okay, one gunshot win.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what caliber that was.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know where on her body she was shot,
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  Speaker 5: Doug Warner?
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  Speaker 12: From that autopsy, it does say in the skull, in
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  Speaker 12: the head in the twelve o'clock position, so that.
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  Speaker 3: It got it in the head, just like Charity.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, lightning round, lightning round, Okay, shot in the head.
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  Speaker 2: Where was her body found?
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  Speaker 3: Doug Warner.
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  Speaker 12: In I believe it said in the bedroom. I'm not
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  Speaker 12: sure where in the bedroom. Again, I literally just got
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  Speaker 12: my hands on that autopsy report in the home.
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  Speaker 3: In the family home.
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  Speaker 5: In the home at that time, Shawna had one child,
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  Speaker 5: a little girl.
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  Speaker 3: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 12: Yes, but I'm aware of yes, that the family has
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  Speaker 12: told me at about two or three years old.
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  Speaker 11: Responding officers entered the home and found Shawna shot to
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  Speaker 11: death in their bedroom, according to the report. In the
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  Speaker 11: incident report, police also noted furniture and other items scattered
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  Speaker 11: around the home. According to the police report, Randall left
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  Speaker 11: work to return home due to Shawna threatening to kill herself.
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  Speaker 11: After four Randall returned to work, only to find his
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  Speaker 11: wife dead. A few hours later. Medical examiner determined it
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  Speaker 11: was suicide, and the case was re examined in twenty
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  Speaker 11: twenty one, when it appears that Randy Powell told police
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  Speaker 11: that Charity knew who did it.
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  Speaker 5: That photo of the mansion we got from our friends
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  Speaker 5: over at five News straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan
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  Speaker 5: joining US Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University. He is the
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  Speaker 5: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. He is
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  Speaker 5: the star of a hit series Body Bags of Joe
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  Speaker 5: Scott Morgan.
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  Speaker 3: But for my purposes, he.
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  Speaker 2: Has investigated over ten thousand death scenes.
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  Speaker 5: That's accident, suicide, natural causes like heart attack, stroke unexplained,
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  Speaker 5: and of course homicide. Joe Scott, you know my head's
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  Speaker 5: about to blow off right now, do you? In my world,
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  Speaker 5: I look for similarities. And let me say again, the
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  Speaker 5: doctor who was married to Shauna and.
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  Speaker 2: Charity as I had nothing to do with this.
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  Speaker 5: He's not a person of interest, he's not a suspect.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't been named, he hasn't been arrested. Both women
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  Speaker 5: look alike. Number one, Both women are shot with a handgun.
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  Speaker 5: We believe if it had been a long gun, like
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  Speaker 5: a shotgun, we'd know that by now. Both of them
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  Speaker 5: shot in the head. Both of them had minor children.
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  Speaker 5: In the current case, the children are six. In Shauna's case,
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  Speaker 5: the child is three. Both were in the middle of
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  Speaker 5: domestic turmoil. Let me say the marriage was blowing up.
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  Speaker 5: Both women were found at home, were shot in the home,
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  Speaker 5: and their bodies found in the home.
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  Speaker 13: Seemingly. Yes, I got to tell you, speaking to your
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  Speaker 13: previous guest, Doug. I'd love to see that autopsy report.
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  Speaker 13: I'd love to dig into that. I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 13: we look for similarities and things, don't we, Nancy. I
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  Speaker 13: want to know the status of that weapon from the
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  Speaker 13: initial event from this suicide. I want to know who
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  Speaker 13: owned it, and I also want to know the nature
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  Speaker 13: of the scene itself when compared to the current tragedy
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  Speaker 13: that we're speaking of. I want to know what kind
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  Speaker 13: of similarities existed there. Also, I would like to know if,
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  Speaker 13: in fact, there were any signs of a struggle at
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  Speaker 13: the scene at either one of them, because you know,
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  Speaker 13: again we're going down this road of thinking about similarities.
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  Speaker 13: Was there any kind of evidence that someone had raised
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  Speaker 13: a hand at some point, Tom restrained somebody. Was there
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  Speaker 13: any chance that, you know, because you have to eliminate
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  Speaker 13: this idea that if they're saying that this is someone
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  Speaker 13: else that's done it, we want to know if we
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  Speaker 13: can eliminate that and strike that off the list. However,
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  Speaker 13: I will say this nance most of the time, as
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  Speaker 13: you well know, most people that wind up dead in
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  Speaker 13: a circumstance like this, you always have to look at
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  Speaker 13: those in the immediate, intimate circle, and as an investigator,
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  Speaker 13: that's what I'm anxious to dig into.
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  Speaker 14: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Another similarity is that both women were autopsied by the
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  Speaker 5: same person.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that's rare, isn't it.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, it is if we're talking about the Fort Smith area,
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  Speaker 13: it's not. And if this individual that did this autopsy
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  Speaker 13: is a board certified forensic pathologist first off, so people
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  Speaker 13: understand the nature of the business, they're rare as hens teeth.
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  Speaker 13: There's probably more neurosurgeons in this world than there are
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  Speaker 13: forensic pathologists nationwide. So the fact that we have one
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  Speaker 13: in that area, who exactly would it be that that
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  Speaker 13: would have done this post? What's their relationship in any
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  Speaker 13: way to the political sphere up there? I'd like to know,
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  Speaker 13: are there any other issues with them? And what specifically?
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  Speaker 13: You know, this is the medical community we're talking about,
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  Speaker 13: right nings that that peels back another totally different layer
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  Speaker 13: here when you begin to think about.
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  Speaker 5: That this so she's got one doctor medical examiner and
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  Speaker 5: the husband is also a doctor.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and that's certainly something that we would we
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  Speaker 13: would want to, you know, lean into and try to
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  Speaker 13: understand that. If we think about are there any kind
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  Speaker 13: of is there any kind of connective tissue between that
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  Speaker 13: individual and this individual. And look, this is just probative
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  Speaker 13: information that you mean, Mike.
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  Speaker 5: Did they go to the same medical school, Did they
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  Speaker 5: go to the same undergrad Did they go to the
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  Speaker 5: same country club?
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  Speaker 3: Did they run in the same circles that whole thing.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, country club, primarily church, anything in that area. You know,
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  Speaker 13: the chances you're going to have these two that went
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  Speaker 13: to the same med school are kind of rare. But
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  Speaker 13: when you insert yourself into a community, particularly one the
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  Speaker 13: size of the Smart Fort Smith area, you're going to
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  Speaker 13: have this connective tissue. Were they aware of one another
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  Speaker 13: on any level? So that's something I would certainly want
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  Speaker 13: to explore as an investigator.
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  Speaker 5: Let me go back to our special guests, and we've
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  Speaker 5: got an all star panel tonight, but I want to
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  Speaker 5: hear Charity's son John and her father Randy, who I've
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  Speaker 5: described as her soulmate. As a matter of fact, he
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  Speaker 5: tells me that with John, who's sitting right there beside him,
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  Speaker 5: Charity insisted that he Randy, her father, be guardian legal
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  Speaker 5: guardian over John because of the tempestuous relationship that she
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  Speaker 5: had with doctor Biellis. In case anything happened to her.
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  Speaker 5: She wanted her father, the man she trusted the most
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  Speaker 5: in this world, to be guardian over her son. Got
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  Speaker 5: a question for you, John or Randy. Let me throw
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  Speaker 5: it to John first. Where in her mansion? And it
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  Speaker 5: was a mansion, Let's see a picture of where these
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  Speaker 5: this family lived. Where in her mansion was her body found?
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  Speaker 5: Good gravy, that's big.
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  Speaker 3: Where was she found within the mansion? John?
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  Speaker 7: So the authorities haven't told us exactly where the bodies
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  Speaker 7: was found, but we do know they were upstairs. And
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  Speaker 7: I do know that every bedroom in that house was upstairs.
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  Speaker 6: So that's all that I know now.
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  Speaker 10: Upstairs is the only answer we are from Sebastian Kereth.
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  Speaker 5: That photo of the mansion we got from our friends
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  Speaker 5: over at five News, and that's where all the bedrooms.
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  Speaker 6: Are, correct, right, yes, ma'am?
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  Speaker 5: And do you know do you know, Doug Warner, what
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  Speaker 5: room in which they were found? And were the children,
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  Speaker 5: the two little six year old twins beside her or
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  Speaker 5: with her? How were the bodies found?
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  Speaker 13: Doug?
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  Speaker 3: What do you know?
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  Speaker 12: That is the tough thing here. I've been doing this
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  Speaker 12: for three plus decades and it's been over a week
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  Speaker 12: now and we've got the zero fountain of information out
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  Speaker 12: of the Sheriff's office. Other than to kind of a
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  Speaker 12: resume of the work they've done. They've put out nearly
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  Speaker 12: two dozen search warrants that they've been included and brought
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  Speaker 12: in the US Secret Service.
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  Speaker 2: And Homeland Security. And I asked about that.
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  Speaker 12: That seems like a strange addition to this investigative unit
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  Speaker 12: along with state police. They said, that's for a kind
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  Speaker 12: of a more of a deep dive forensics. They have
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  Speaker 12: not provided any information. In fact, they never even said
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  Speaker 12: it was her children that were found shot to death.
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  Speaker 12: They just said Charity of Bielis and two children. It
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  Speaker 12: was not until we talked to the family that we
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  Speaker 12: confirmed it it was those twin twin.
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  Speaker 5: Children that photo of the mansion we got from our
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  Speaker 5: friends over at five News. Let me go quickly to
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  Speaker 5: a veteran trial lawyer on the other side of the
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  Speaker 5: fence from me, Greg Moorse, veteran defense attorney who founded
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  Speaker 5: Morse Legal. He is the author of the Untested and
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  Speaker 5: you can find him at Morse legal dot com. Morse,
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  Speaker 5: you know where I'm going Now. I've got two other
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  Speaker 5: bricks in my wall, both cases the victims are shot
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  Speaker 5: with a handgun. Both were found we believe in the bedroom.
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  Speaker 15: Well, you're you're you're talking about in federal court for
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  Speaker 15: or for be evidence substantially similar, which can be introduced
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  Speaker 15: against it several court.
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  Speaker 3: This is going to be a state stay, every.
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  Speaker 5: Sack court, every similar y, also every federal statue.
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  Speaker 15: Every state has the same law. They just call it
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  Speaker 15: something different. Florida calls at William's rule. And these are generalities,
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  Speaker 15: all right, So someone was shot with a handgun.
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  Speaker 2: Two people.
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  Speaker 15: Handguns are used in most crimes. There are women. Okay,
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  Speaker 15: that's a pretty common thing. Fifty one percent of the
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  Speaker 15: country is women.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing specifically, I'm married to doctor Randy b Allis.
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  Speaker 15: No, but you're winning for substantially substantially similar under the law.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, this person could just tragically be unlucky. This
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  Speaker 15: could be coincidental for this person. We also have in Arkansas,
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  Speaker 15: it's the eleventh highest suicide rate in America. So they're substantially similar.
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  Speaker 15: While it is, You're right, this could be used and
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  Speaker 15: if the doctor is charged, they would maybe try to
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  Speaker 15: get this in even though there's a designation of suicide. However,
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  Speaker 15: these are generalities. Right now, there's nothing that's linking it back.
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  Speaker 15: But one thing that is important I would like to
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  Speaker 15: know is have any shellcasings or any type of fragments
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  Speaker 15: been found, and have they been entered into the National
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  Speaker 15: database NIBIN and to see what type of hits come
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  Speaker 15: on those, because that's a database that takes all fragments,
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  Speaker 15: whether someone is arrested or not, all shellcasings that police
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  Speaker 15: find in responding to an event and it's put into
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  Speaker 15: this national database. So you're right, there are similarities because
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  Speaker 15: this person was married as first wife suicide, second wife suicide,
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  Speaker 15: they're women a handgun, but you would need more specifics
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  Speaker 15: to get that in under substantial.
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  Speaker 5: Hartley hold On, nobody said suicide in Charity's death. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: she was shot in the head and the chest. Joe
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  Speaker 5: Scott Morgan, you're the death investigator. What if I listen
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  Speaker 5: to Morse, I've got to believe either her six year
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  Speaker 5: old child shot her and their sibling, or I have
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  Speaker 5: to believe she Charity shot herself in the chest and went, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's not good enough. I'll now shat myself in the head.
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  Speaker 3: That did not happen.
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  Speaker 13: No, I think that that's completely implausible. I would going
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  Speaker 13: back to the rounds that were fired, I would like
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  Speaker 13: to know the nature of those and specifically the caliber
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  Speaker 13: of the weapon that you utilized. I want to know
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  Speaker 13: the status of this previously owned weapon. I want to
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  Speaker 13: know where it is, whose hands it is in at
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  Speaker 13: this moment in Tom, I want to know if there's
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  Speaker 13: any been any kind of recent purchases of firearms on
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  Speaker 13: the part of any of the parties involved in this case.
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  Speaker 13: I want to know if our victim, this mother, I
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  Speaker 13: want to know if she's purchased a handgun recently, or
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  Speaker 13: maybe she was gifted a handgun. I want to know
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  Speaker 13: all of that data so that it can completely be assessed.
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  Speaker 13: Any rounds that perhaps were recovered from this first case
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  Speaker 13: that we mentioned, I want to know what the status
• 19:18
  Speaker 13: of that round is. I want to know is there
• 19:21
  Speaker 13: a ballistic match to that earlier weapon. And here's the
• 19:24
  Speaker 13: big one, I want to know if that round from
• 19:27
  Speaker 13: that earlier suicide could potentially match the ones involved in
• 19:32
  Speaker 13: this questioned homicide.
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  Speaker 5: At this moment in Tom, again, I want to stress
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: we are not trying to put the husband in jail.
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  Speaker 5: I want the killer in jail. Doctor Bialis has not
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: been named a suspect. He's not been named a person
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: of interest. He has not been arrested.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: In fact, he.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Asserts his innocence as we go to air tonight. He
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: has presumed innocent under the law.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Remember as a good Christian woman that loved her children
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: and loved her family and friends more than anything. But
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: she always put God first. And I'm grateful for that
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: because I know where she is now.
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  Speaker 11: And December third, Sebastian County Sheriff's welfare check on Charity
• 20:20
  Speaker 11: be Alice at home, but as a police joined and
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: failing to get a response from inside the mansion, two
• 20:25
  Speaker 11: workers escort officers into the home. Officers locate the body
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: of Charity be Alice and two children. All three have
• 20:32
  Speaker 11: gunshot wounds.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Crime stores with Nancy Grace.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Charity's courage and unwavery love for her children are tested
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: when her a Streams husband grows increasingly dangerous. Randall b
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Allis allegedly choked Charity in front of their young children.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Pleading guilty to third degree domestic battery.
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  Speaker 5: As an all Star panel, but I want to go
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: back to Charity's first son. He's joining us tonight is
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: John Powell and joining us is who many people consider
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: to be Charity's soulmate, her father. They were very close,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: practically connected, joined at the hip.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So loving each other.
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  Speaker 5: To John, I've seen photos of you with her twins,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: the boy and the girl. There you are holding them.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: One thing that really was poignant to me. First of all,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: in a lot of the photos I've spotted the same
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: little outfits, the exact same outfits I got for my daughter.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: The one where she's playing in water that looks like
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: one of Lucy's nightgowns, one of her favorite nightgowns. You
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: were all the time, that one, that's the exact thing
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: my daughter wore until she couldn't wear it anymore. In
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: another photo, she's got on a little reddish colored velvet dress.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And then there's a Hello Kitty T shirt eat the
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: same yep, that's from Target.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: There's a Hello Kitty. And in that photo.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Right there, I see and in a couple of others,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I see where your mom would wear put on her
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: lipstick before the photo. And then I see where your
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: little sister said, Mom, I want lipstick, and so she
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: put lipstick on her baby girl. I'm just she loved
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: them so much. I want you to tell me about
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: charity as a mother, John.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: She she was a very loving mother, without a doubt.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: She loved her her kids more than anything, expect she
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: loved family.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: She always put God first.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: She actually had a passion if she was to be
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: able to make it through this divorce case, to pursue
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: spreading awareness for domestic violence.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: And not only for small towns in the.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: State of Arkansas, but try to make it known through
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: the entire nation. But she really had a passion for that,
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: and she loved her children more than anything.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: And you know what's interesting, John Powell, Well, so many things.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: But women will put up with a lot to hold
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: the family together. They'll put up with lying, cheating, drinking, horring, gambling, drugs,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: the whole she bang, because you try to hide it
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: from your children so they have this as best as
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: you can give them a picture perfect childhood. Okay, about
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: your mom, because she is gunned down dead in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: middle of a contentious divorce proceeding. Why did your mom
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: state she wanted a divorce from doctor b Ellis.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: He was very abusive and it's on file he pled
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: guilty to choking her and in front of the children.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: She was very scared, and she would just beat down
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: mentally and she would you know, physically, that's on file
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: as well. But she was just trying to make it
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: better for her children.
• 24:36
  Speaker 14: The murder of Charities and her twins comes one day
• 24:39
  Speaker 14: after a final divorce hearing with ex husband doctor Randall Beellis.
• 24:43
  Speaker 14: Randy and Charity be Ellis Mary in twenty fifteen and
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: have the twins, a son and daughter. In twenty nineteen,
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: Charity files for divorce and full custody of the couple's twins,
• 24:53
  Speaker 14: son and daughter, as well as an order of protection.
• 24:56
  Speaker 14: In the final divorce hearing, doctor Randy Beellis is awarded
• 24:59
  Speaker 14: joint custody of the children.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: What is really interesting to me is that, of course
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: you heard the timing right there. This is one day,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: one day after a final divorce hearing between the two
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: of them, and some judge gives doctor be Allis joint custody.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: That's even custody fifty to fifty to doctor Ballis, even
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: though he has a domestic abuse conviction.
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: Listen Dan years of marriage ends with Randy Bellis charged
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: accused physical harm to his wife and mother of his
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: children by choking her bi Alis Carter to jail while
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: Charity plans a divorce to Randy Powell.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: This is Charity's father who she trusted so much she
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: wanted him to be legal guardian over her oldest son, John,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: sitting right there in case anything ever happened to her.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I'm confused about how a man, even though he is
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: a well known and well liked medical doctor, how did
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: he get joint custody when he pled guilty to domestic
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: assault domestic battery.
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: Millions of dollars can do wonders, so I have no
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: idea how any judge could give him any kind of custody.
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: After filing for divorce and custody, Charity finds herself treated unfairly.
• 26:34
  Speaker 11: A strange husband, Randy Billi's domestic violence charges have yet
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: to be adjudicated, and Charity posting I'm the victim, yet
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: I've been treated like the problem while the criminal, a
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: local doctor, is being shielded by the very system that's
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: supposed to protect us. And so she tried reaching out
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: to prosecuting attorney, but he won't even accept a letter
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: from me.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Desperate to protect her family, Charity takes the brave step
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: in filing for both a divorce and a protective order
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: against Randall.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: After the final divorce. Hearing the unthinkable happens, Charity and
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: her children are brutally killed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Shortly before her death, Charity Baalis, mother, beloved member of
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: her entire family, is found shot dead.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: One shot to the head.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: One shot to the chest, we have been told, although
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the autopsy has been kept secret, along with her her
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: two children, twins boy and girl, Eleana and Maverick, just
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: six years old, we are told, shot in the chest.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Just before that, a cryptic post made ostensibly by Charity,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: and it states, quote, if a woman's partner has ever
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: strangled her even once, her risk of being murdered by
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: that same partner with a gun shoots up seven hundred
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: and fifty percent compared to a woman who has never
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: been strangled, shared by a Daily Press article. Straight out
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: to doctor Janey Lacey, joining US, licensed psychotherapist, CEO of
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Life Counseling Solutions, author of How to Heal from a
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Toxic Relationship, and host of the Resilient Professional podcast, Doctor
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Janey Lacy, thank you for being with us. What can
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: you tell me regarding the stats on women that have
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: been strangled by their partner and lived at least through
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: that incident.
• 28:42
  Speaker 16: You know, Nancy, strangulation is the single most important warning
• 28:47
  Speaker 16: sign we have. When a partner puts their hands around
• 28:50
  Speaker 16: someone's neck, they're rehearsing murder. The research is clear, a
• 28:55
  Speaker 16: woman who's been strangled by her partner, and Charity shared
• 28:59
  Speaker 16: that in her post, is seven and a half times
• 29:01
  Speaker 16: more likely to be killed by him.
• 29:03
  Speaker 17: And that's not a red flag. That's a death sentence
• 29:06
  Speaker 17: waiting to happen. And here's what people don't understand, Nancy,
• 29:09
  Speaker 17: is you can strangle someone and leave no marks, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 17: when victims reported, there's no music, there's no bruising, so
• 29:15
  Speaker 17: they're often not even believed. And it's not about anger
• 29:18
  Speaker 17: in that moment, it's about showing her I own your
• 29:21
  Speaker 17: next breath, Nancy.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Doctor Janey.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: She stated in her very mysterious post prior to her
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: murder that women that had been strangled and survived that strangulation,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: that there're seven hundred and fifty percent more likely to
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: be killed.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: She says, my.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Gunshot than women who have never endured a strangulation, seven
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty percent more likely.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
• 29:49
  Speaker 18: That is a lot, Nancy, and that's exactly correct. Is
• 29:53
  Speaker 18: when a woman who gets strangled, it becomes seven hundred
• 29:56
  Speaker 18: and fifty percent. Let's kind of think about that more
• 29:59
  Speaker 18: likely to be killed by him, and to me, that
• 30:02
  Speaker 18: is not a red flag.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: That is a death sentence waiting to happen.
• 30:05
  Speaker 17: And we know strangulation is the single most important warning
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: sign that we have, and that is important.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: For us to understand.
• 30:12
  Speaker 17: When you strangle someone, you don't leave any room, you
• 30:14
  Speaker 17: don't leave any marks. You're telling that person I can
• 30:17
  Speaker 17: take your breath away at any moment, and we know
• 30:20
  Speaker 17: that that person is not We're dealing with someone capable
• 30:23
  Speaker 17: of killing Nancy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Let me go back to Charity's son, John, her oldest son,
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: and her father Randy joining us tonight. I'd like to
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: ask you, gentlemen, about a document from the Arkansas State
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Police Crimes against Children Unit. Now, this document is sent
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: to Eleianna and Maverick Bialis in care of Charity, your
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: mother daughter. It's from a caseworker, Alaura Perry in Van
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Buren and important. The date is this past summer July fifteen,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Name of the alleged victims, Eleiana and
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Maverick b Allis.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Those are the twins now dead, shot dead.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: The name of the alleged offender is Randy B. Allis
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: aka doctor Ballis. It says the Arkansas State Police received
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: allegations of child maltreatment involving the above. It was reported
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: on March thirty one, twenty five. Based on a preponderance
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: of evidence, the agency deems the allegation to be true
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and doctor Beallis's name should be placed in the Child
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Maltreatment Central Registry. Let's put the document up on the screen.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: It's stay that the type of maltreatment was abuse parenne
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: abuse with or without physical injury for both children, and
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: abuse threat of harm to the boy. Maverick, did Charity
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: ever confide in either of you, Randy or John, why
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: this complaint was filed and why the allegations were deemed
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: by a proprieenance of evidence to be true by the
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Arkansas Arkansas State Police Crimes against Children Unit.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: What happened that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: They conveyed to her some of what had happened, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: she reached out to for help, and they had done
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: a forensic interview with the children, and that was the
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: outcomes about all I know to say, I'm pretty well
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: mentally and physically exhausted.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Once they figured out that Blis wasn't going to be
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: around them, then they were feeling better about telling my
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: mother what had happened to.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Chris McDonald joining me, director of the Cold Case Foundation,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: former homicide detective, over three hundred homicides under his belt
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: that he personally investigated. He is the star of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: interview room on YouTube where I found him. We now
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: have claims by the mom who posts a cryptic post
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: about strangulation by an intimate partner? Is it semantics smothering
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: by asphyxiation such as with a pillow, smothering by hand
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: or ligature? In both ms, the victim is being deprived
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: of air.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that, Chris?
• 33:43
  Speaker 19: You know, Nancy, the fact that two children were murdered,
• 33:47
  Speaker 19: remember they were murdered here, and the fact that the
• 33:52
  Speaker 19: manner of death potentially initially could have been strangulation or suffocation.
• 34:00
  Speaker 19: The kids, from an investigative aspect, are really the lynchpin
• 34:05
  Speaker 19: to solving this particular crime because you have two adults
• 34:09
  Speaker 19: who are obviously having a domestic but then you have
• 34:12
  Speaker 19: two innocent lives potentially in their rooms upstairs in that house.
• 34:18
  Speaker 19: And so now you now shift that type of weapon
• 34:22
  Speaker 19: to a handgun, which is also very personal to somebody
• 34:28
  Speaker 19: in connection to those children. And so I think that's
• 34:32
  Speaker 19: where the forensics expertise of the Secret Service is going
• 34:35
  Speaker 19: to come in here, because they're going to go back
• 34:37
  Speaker 19: and they're going to try to pull ballistics, they're going
• 34:39
  Speaker 19: to try digital evidence, etc. And they're going to try
• 34:42
  Speaker 19: to make sense of that. So it's really not a
• 34:44
  Speaker 19: who've done it? It's more of why was it done.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: In my name?
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: I paid for it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: I'm shutting it off.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: John Powell, we just showed a video of doctor b
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Alice slashing your tires of your truck.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: So I actually was trying to do good for myself
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: and uh become a lineman.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I was applying to go to Liman.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: School, uh, and I had just gotten back from there
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: across the state, and when I entered the house, Bielis
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: started mouthing me and using profanity and being real negative
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: towards me. And I didn't know really why or what
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: was the cause for it, but it ended up being
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: something about my phone and not texting back quick enough
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: or just something that didn't make any sense to me.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: And he told my mom to grab a knife and go.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: Out there and start trying to stab my tires. Uh,
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: and she couldn't do it. And then that's when you
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: see him come behind with the knife as well and
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: start stabbing every single one of them, and taught me
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: with the knife with my baby brother in his arm.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: So I pulled up my phone. That's all I knew
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: to do video because I didn't.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Know what else to do.
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: I knew he was a powerful man that has gotten
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: away with things in the past that and you know,
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: he's done things to me that we're.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Not right, and I couldn't get on video.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: So I'm thankful I could get this one on video
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: to show the world that something needs to be done.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: What was your mom doing during all this? What was
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: she saying?
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Trying to get the phone because he knew that if
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: it was on video that something could happen to him.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: But I don't think he was real worried about it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: But he didn't know that the phones needed to be
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: tooken away.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Tell me about your little brother and sister, Maverick and Iliana.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: They were very precious and they were innocent.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: You know, my baby brother learned how to play chess
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: in forty five minutes at six years old.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Very very smart. So was Eleana.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: She could paint and draw a pick is like somebody
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: thirty years old at you know, when she was six
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: years old. They were very very smart and talented and gifted.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Just one of a kind.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: As we go to air tonight, I want to stress
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: that doctor Bealls has not been charged. He has not
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: been named a suspect, He has not been named a
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: person of interest.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: In fact, he insists he is innocent.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: I got a question for you, Randy Powell, who would
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: get that house? It's valued in around seven hundred and
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: sixty eight thousand dollars. Would that since the children have
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: been killed, who would that go to? In the event
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: of Charity's death.
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: It would go to John Powell. But Michael Pierce, the
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: attorney for be Alice, the next day made a motion
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: to dismiss the divorce so that it would all go
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: back to be Alice.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: We have a legal team fighting that as we speak.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: That photo of the mansion we got from our friends
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: over at five News.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, explain that to me John, you're fighting.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Was it the day after her body was found, Doctor
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: b Allison?
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, correct, yes, what did you do regard to the
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: divorce proceeding?
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Missed the divorce? So everything I'll go back to Beelis.
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: And that's what my man, my legal team have been
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: fighting to do is get control of my mom's body
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: and try to get Elanna and Maverick if we can,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: and in proceed with the divorce case.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: So all that will be through because it needs to be.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: In the divorce decree, she was awarded half the property,
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: her car and some money. They were to sell the
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: house at auction and split the profits and her get
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: her car and some money. And he's trying to get dismissed.
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: I assume, so that doesn't happen.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: So the divorce were still pending, then everything would go
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: to him, right, it's right, okay. Another thing you mentioned,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: you're trying.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: To get her body. Where is her body.
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: Punla Little Rock?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Yes? Currently he's still in the crime lab at Little Rock.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Why hasn't there been a few I have.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: We couldn't do. They won't tell us.
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: They won't even tell us when or for hour i'mout
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: releasing the body.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: You've heard nothing went out just as much as everyone else.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just nothing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Yet we wait as justice unfolds, If you know or
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: think you know anything about the brutal murder of Charity
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: bi Alice or her young twins, Eleana and Maverick, please
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: call Sebastian County Sheriffs four seven nine seven eight three
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: one zero five one. As you know, Homeland Security and
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Secret Service has been called in on this investigation. Four
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: seven nine seven eight three one zero five one. We
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: remember an American hero, Deputy Sheriff John Michael Melvin, Grant
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: County Sheriff's Washington, killed in the line of duty after
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: serving thirty five years, leaving behind a broken hearted son.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: American hero Deputy Sheriff John Michael Melvin, Nancy Gray signing
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: off goodbye friend,