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K-State vs. Oklahoma State Preview 🔥 Trap Game or Total Blowout? (S4//E32) · Cocaine Willie

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A great day. Well, hello everybody.
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It's another great episode of Cocaine Willy coming, coming,
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coming live here from Dallas, TX.
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Got Fireball mat here. We got Chef, we got no Bob
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today. So it is absolutely going to be
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We miss Bob though, but we thank everybody for giving us the
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listen today to Cocaine Willie, who is the official K State
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podcast on the College Huddle. Today we're going to talk about
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Oklahoma State. We got a big game coming up on
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Saturday against the Cowboys in Stillwater, a place we have not
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won since 1999. Are we going to break that
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streak on Saturday? Who knows, Who knows?
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And we have a great guest CGA tour and Cal, who is going to be
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Aggieville. All right, let's go ahead and
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talk Oklahoma State. And again, we have Cal from the
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CGA tour with us today. Thank you for joining.
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Number one, talk to us. I mean, come on.
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This has been an interesting season of a lot of highs and a
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lot of lows being nice, maybe some more lows and highs, but
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welcome back. It's great to have you here on
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the show today. Thanks, chef and fireball.
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I I like your guys's names. You know, you're not going
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straight up. You know, you got Bob Trollsby
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as a third like you know, I I need to do something.
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I need to do something with mine.
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I'm missing out all of us here at the college.
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I don't need to do something like that.
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That's that's terrific. But this Saturday we are
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honoring maybe the best wide receiver in comfortable history,
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Dustin Blackman. And that is the highlight of the
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game because to put it bluntly, we are 20 1/2 point or 19 1/2
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points or maybe 19 if you're really looking at those, those
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those books out in Vegas, underdogs at home against K
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State, who I believe here, if I'm right in saying is out of
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contention to be in the big championship game.
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So. We are, yes.
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So it's not no offense, you guys are not world beaters and we're
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still projected to lose by 19 to 21 somewhere in there.
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So it's just not overall like the most optimistic I've been
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about a cowboy game heading into it.
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I don't know why I would have a ton of optimism at the best
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couple and the the the possibility of having, you know,
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some some hope was Hoss Haney or starting quarterback who was
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supposedly looking at this game to come back for me and a bye
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week last week, etcetera. And he got injured literally the
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first quarter of the first game of the season back in August.
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And has he fractured his foot? It's no small injury healing
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from a Jones fracture, which keeps NBA players out for a
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whole season. So I don't blame the guy for not
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coming back at all. But this was kind of the game
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where maybe he'll come back and it's he's not on the depth
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chart. So there's no way it's
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day-to-day if I'm a host, Haney, I don't know why I would come
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back either. So I don't have a ton of hope,
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but that was kind of the the the hope, hope that it's just going
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to not happen. So I'm I'm excited to see
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Oklahoma State football. Like it's always a fun time.
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We're making stadium tailgating, hanging out with family and
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friends, all type of stuff. But man, this is not the most
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optimistic view I've ever had going into a game.
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I think the last ones we've done before I I've been like, well,
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you know what, maybe we can do this or oh, you know, like even
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last year we won three games heading into the, you know, and
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into this game. And one was against Arkansas.
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And you know, another one was Tulsa by it was 45 to 10 and we
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had Ollie Gordon second this team.
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We we've got a guy who was playing quarterback one point to
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then now is playing wide receiver, who now is back to
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playing quarterback out of necessity, possibly starting at
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quarterback, but definitely going to be playing some snaps.
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And that's just kind of the state of where we're at.
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Fire to head coach three games in the season.
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As everyone knows, Gundy's gone. Gundy has not publicly said
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anything about being gone either.
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Every other coach has commented said, you know, everyone.
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But anyways, I I digress. It's not the most hopeful look
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into into a game I've ever had, that's for sure.
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No, that's completely fair. And and you covered some of the
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points of of kind of the big picture of what 2025 is.
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Look, looked at, you know, one in eight record.
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You mentioned House Haney, who is ATCU transfer.
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And admittingly, in that first quarter, you know, I, I remember
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that game kind of looked, looked the part of a guy that that, you
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know, coming in to, to really kind of be the starter and, and
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showed some flashes in that game.
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You know, thinking about the the Gundy firing after the Tulsa
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game and, you know, this impending coaching change that
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you know, it's going to be coming, You know, at the end of
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this season, You know, thinking about the the overall vibe of
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the program maybe isn't necessarily looking at the past
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nine games, but it's looking at OK, here's the next three games,
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the last three games of the season.
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And then, you know, the potential of somebody coming in
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and kind of revamping this program.
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So, you know, what is the the overall kind of vibe right now
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as an Oklahoma State supporter and fan about the football
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program of where they are at right now?
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There's there's a lot of hope and optimism for next year and
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what a new head coach could bring.
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Oklahoma State historically has paid Big 12 coaching and you
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know when it comes to Big 12 coaching, top 3IN Big 12
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coaching revenue year over year. With Gundy, that was always
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true. Now Gundy was always trying to
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keep that bar going up. You know, he was not complacent
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with being paid whatever he was being paid.
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He was always gonna and advantageous to him.
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Props to him. I mean, know your value and know
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your worth, but I think a lot of fans, including myself, are
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optimistic of what the next era could look like.
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Will it be a possible former Oklahoma State quarterback,
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offensive coordinator for the Falcons coming Stillwater?
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Or will it be a possible other kind of group of Five currently
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head coach either at North Texas or Texas State or Memphis?
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You know, I mean, just kind of wherever, USF University, South
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Florida. So there's a lot of optimism in,
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hey, who could be the next coach?
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And while we're still able to be incredibly optimistic, right,
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like this is kind of the honeymoon optimism phase.
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It's nice, but it's also just so bizarre.
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I mean, I Gundy's been the head coach.
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I'm I'm now 32. Gundy's been the head coach
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since I was in 4th grade. So like, it's, it's a long time
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and he did one hell of a job for so long.
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He was named big 12th coach of the year in 2021 and 2023 as
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well as I think 2011. So he was named it more in this
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decade than he was the last decade.
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It just it's all so bizarre. The season went like this and it
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went so downhill so quick. But there's a lot of optimism in
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the fan base and there's a lot of who's going to be the next
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head coach and hey, see the basketball team play, which it's
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November. We're talking about basketball
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and next head coaches. You know that it's kind of where
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we're at. You know, I mean, one, one win
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against UT Martin, which if you guys know where that UT stands
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for, it's University of Tennessee at Martin, which was
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not the first one I thought of. So, you know, there's just kind
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of because we're, you know, we're used to like the UTSA,
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right? University of Texas, you know,
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so University of Texas Martin, not too odd of the blue, but of
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course, they're University of Tennessee.
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So anyways, yeah, it's it's an optimistic, hopeful kind of
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vibes. We're having a lot of fun.
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We've got several 100 students taking their shirts off, waving
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them around. We'll see if it'll happen this
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weekend. Although it is supposed to be
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kind of nice. So probably.
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And we've got a lot of guys dressing up in banana suits, a
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lot of guys and gals for that matter.
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So we're having fun with the season.
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Like a lot of fans are just excited for what's next.
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Are they going to raise ticket prices again after this year?
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I hope not. Like a lot of that stuff going
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on, Who's going to be the guy to come in?
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And and then we'll see where we're at.
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Yeah, well, well, specifically on on the offensive side of the
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ball that I mean, we're going to break this team down and, you
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know, looking forward into the future, the depth of this team
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on offense throughout positions. I mean, it's going to be, you
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know, looked at with the new head coach.
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But this season it's it's been a struggle.
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It's been a struggle on offense. I think that's really been the
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main point of it all. I think once a head coach goes,
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the defense kind of goes with that.
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I mean, it's a lot of structure that needs to go with defense.
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But offensively, who is the main guy that's going to lead this
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team? If if you want to have success
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and show progress in those last three games for the next future
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head coach, who's The Who are the people that are going to do
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it? And what have they been doing
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that you might see different going out of a bye week with an,
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you know, an interim head coach? Yeah, so.
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We're on like our third quarterback.
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I mean, it's a tough place to be, but we're either on our
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second or third quarterback. There was a ton of hype for a
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guy named Zane Flores, who I thought his name, it's spelled
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Flores and I thought that's the pronunciation for a while.
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But he's been on the roster for this is his third year with
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Oklahoma State. He's got a red shirt and a
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medical red shirt, so both and this is his third year.
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So this is really like his first year and.
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Things should be familiar with him.
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I mean, he is. He was recruited heavily by K
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State at the time. And he was like going to be the
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guy. I mean, we this whole, it was
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like the Zane train. Zane's got zip.
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Like we had the whole like, we're really into alliteration
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and Stillwater. But we had the whole thing
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going. We were really excited about it.
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And I love it. Like I, I love when we get
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behind a guy and it's optimistic and it's no longer, hey, it's
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Alan Bowman and kind of the dreaded stretch.
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But Haas Haning gets injured so early in that first game and we
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were up to be honest, in the first game, I thought we're just
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going to sit in Haas. We're just trying to get both
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guys playing time off started. We're trying to get Zane playing
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time. And then when Haas didn't go
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back in for like the third quarter, but he only played the
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first, like, OK, maybe they're being safe and you know,
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whatever might be with him because it was a everything I
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can tell is a non contact injury and that stuff happens like
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period. But we're on Zayn Florsch, who
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is also heavily recruited by Nebraska and that rule, you
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know, close to when Dylan Riola would have been starting, of
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course. So he's up there in that kind of
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high regard. He just does not panned out to
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be the guy. And it's either that he does not
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have any protection. I mean, it seems like every play
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he's just shell shocked. He's possibly gotten like the
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Mitch Trubisky, Daniel Jones treatment of quarterbacks where
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like he's just thrown in there and he's got the worst opponents
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to play against. I mean, his first opponent
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starting against is Oregon. He threw two pick sixes.
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I believe we lost the game 69 to 5069 to 3.
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And really we only gave up 55 points on defense.
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Like he's just had the he's either had the toughest luck and
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the worst experience or just overall he's just not as good as
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we thought he'd be. And that's also quite possible.
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Like if you're telling me, hey, his offensive line doesn't
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blocks for a while, he's got no time to think, I'd understand.
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I just hope that that Kansas game two weeks ago where he came
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back from injury, played in it, we put up 20 plus points.
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It's something we can build on coming forward like that.
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All that lead up about Zayn to say is like this guy has what
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you would think of having the talent.
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Just can we either get him a little bit more time or can a
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little couple more things break our way?
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I'm not saying we're we're going to beat K State, don't get me
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wrong, But like we could make it a game for a while.
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We made it against Kansas a game for a while.
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I know you guys beat Kansas, by the way, but like we went to KU
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at KU and for the first time in some weeks, we made it look like
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a game. I mean, we're talking about a
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team that lost 42 to 0 against Texas Tech and Texas Tech was up
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like 14 points within one play from scrimmage because they ran
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back to kick and then we fumble it or had a some type of muff
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punt and then we gave the ball back to another 20 and they
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scored again. Same dude, by the way, scored
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back-to-back possessions, wide receiver and pick six and the
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kick return, excuse me, but they're just some like weird,
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weird stuff has happened. We have some pee wee type of
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football plays where like a running backs, like trying to
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like run into the line of scrimmage and he turns to turn
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his body so we can go backwards kind of over the line.
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And then he's got the ball too loose.
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So then the Texas Tech guy comes in and grabs it while he's still
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going backwards and takes it to the house.
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Like we've got some just really, really bizarre situations that
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have happened this year. But the main thing is like we're
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just, we're not as good as we thought we'd be at all.
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And I don't think we have any motivation and we get down big
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pretty quickly in games. That's what's been tough.
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We not only let the other team score and don't stop them, we
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also don't can't do much to stick with it.
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But the KU game was kind of something where we were leading
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a couple times here and there. We could have gone into half
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time I think tied or winning, I forget exactly, you know, on the
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field goal. So there there's some help,
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there's some promise and something to look forward to an
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offense, and that's where Our Calling card is.
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And we've also got a guy who's in freshman year, freshman, Big
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12, freshman player of the year contention in our defensive
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line. But you guys are going to double
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team them just like every other team we've played hat so far.
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So I don't think Wendell Gregory's going to just really
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take you by storm and and I'm excited about seeing Zayn forge
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back out there again. We've got a ton of wide
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receivers that are all transfers in that's supposed to that look
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really good when they get the ball in their hands for sure.
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And we have a converted wide receiver quarterback who can do
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some have some really fun plays back there behind Center for
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sure. He's just he's 5 foot 11 and he
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was going to be a wide receiver all the way up until Zayn got
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injured. So it's just it's just tough.
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We're we're in a really, we're not the UCLA who's got Niko
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Ayemayava and starting at quarterback and then they fire
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their head coach because they lose so badly and then they
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still have that quarterback we like.
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We not only have the fired head coach, we also have the
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injuries. So this is a tough spot to be.
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We've got the guy transferring now.
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I mean, it's it's not a great season when we're going to look
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back on it. It's going to be this is the
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year of Hosseini and Gundy got fired and maybe, hey, all right,
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Wendell Gregory made some noise defensively.
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Cool. Hopefully we keep him this
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offseason. All right, well, you know, I you
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made some really interesting points and and stuff.
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As you know, all of us, we watch a lot of Big 12 football and you
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know, you see basically all 15 teams.
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You know, we try and pay attention to at least I do, you
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know, Chef has, you know, probably 4 that he really pays
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attention, you know, to. But I, I look at the Oklahoma
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State offense and I think about offense in general.
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You always think of the skilled players, the quarterbacks,
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etcetera. But in many ways, a really good
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offense is led by the offensive line and what they can do.
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And this is an offensive line at Oklahoma State that has had some
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struggles at least with pass protection and keeping the
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quarterback upright. They've given up 16 sacks
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through 9 games. But I think one of the key
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things, and we're seeing this on the key state side as well, is
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run blocking. And Oklahoma State is last in
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the big 12126 yards per game on the ground.
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So about 1100, you know, into this season.
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So talk to us a little bit a bit about the offensive line.
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Has it been a unit that maybe it's been cohesive, but maybe
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doesn't have the talent or is there, you know, anything
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glaring that you, you know, you see when you when you watch the
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offense of, you know, not being able to get the running back
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anything and, and, you know, not being able to get the
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quarterback anytime? I mean, I mean, at the end of
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the day, it comes, I think it comes down mostly to the line
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play. Like there's some bad
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quarterback play, there's some bad running back play, but most
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plays seem to be bad offensive line play, run blocking and pass
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blocking. Really like pass our pass pro
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setup is it? It's not it's not great at all.
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It's not good and it really needs to be great for for a
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retrofreshing quarterback coming off of an injury by the way, to
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to play well, I mean it really, he needed so much help and we
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don't hoss Haney. Why I was so hopeful to have him
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is because he was a very mobile quarterback.
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We've got Zane who's much more of a pocket passer, not a real
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mobile guy. And it just really sucks when
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our our line just doesn't block well kind of all around.
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And we've also got lineman transferring out like during the
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season. So there's not a lot of
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continuity either. I understand all of it why
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they're doing, why the guys transferring, what's going on,
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guys are having injuries, etcetera.
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But it's just a tough spot to be in because I don't, we don't
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have a mobile quarterback who and we don't have a quick
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quarterback, even quick passing. So like all of it just is slower
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because the guy you really want back there under center and
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who's been trained to be quarterback his entire life,
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it's just a little bit slower, especially for this line.
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And the other guy back there is converted wide receiver playing
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quarterbacks who was a quarterback.
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Weirdly enough. It's a whole weird deal.
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But look up Sam Jackson, the 5th.
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I mean, like whole weird story he's played at this is his
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fourth school. So like this is the transport
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portal era we're in with him. But it's fun, you know, I'm glad
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we have him. We ordered a lot of trick plays
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with him too, which is fun. I love a good gadget wide
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receiver slash quarterback. I mean those, I mean, it's a
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diverse setting that you could get with this guy out on the
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field. But you touched on quarterback
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and I think you've touched on every quarterback on the roster
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and they deserve their flowers and they deserve their time to
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shine. But this season hasn't been it.
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But I kind of want to talk divert a little bit from the
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outline and talk a little bit about the future, especially of
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what you want. We'll get back to the position
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groups here in a second, but I kind of want to get to that
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future aspect of it. You mentioned the name and
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potential names of who you want to head coach.
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Is there a change to this offense and specifically the
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quarterback position that you would want to see?
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Like because Oklahoma State, when I when I think of Oklahoma
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State, I've always thought of like innovative offenses, very
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spread out, get things done, power run.
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Chuba Hubbard was, I mean, he gave me nightmares when when I
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had to when we had to face them in what was that, 2122 or
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something like that. He was, he was everything.
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But do you want to, what do you want to see this program and
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this offense and specifically the quarterback position?
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What do you want to see with this new era of Oklahoma State
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football? A lot more just motion, a lot
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more pre stab motion, a lot more diverting.
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Exactly like trying to just do in more schemes.
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It seems like our offense is very bland and vanilla, which I
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understand, like our offense coordinators now our head coach,
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I mean, it's it's not, it's not too crazy for me to believe like
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our defensive coordinator got fired this season as well one
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weekend after our head coach got fired because it was so bad.
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And I understand all of it, like why these changes were made.
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Just that doesn't mean that the rest of the season's going to go
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any. I'm not going to be able to take
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away anything, is my point. Like I I would really hope that
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we could have a really good passing attack again.
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That's my favorite area of Oakland State football is having
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Justin Blackman running the, you know, running the basically the
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fade route down the sideline, having, you know, Rudolph to
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Washington. I mean, you talk about a
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Blitnikoff winner. I mean, James Washington, I
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think it's the most recent one for Oakland State and it's
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almost like he won back-to-back, you know, when it was really
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Justin Blackman. So there are so many things I
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remember about like that opened up the run game.
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That's when we had Justice Hill and, you know, when we had
21:22
Thailand Wallace, we had Jim Hubbard and, you know, we had,
21:25
you know, all these guys. So I'm really hopeful that like
21:29
we can get back to that kind of offensive production again.
21:31
I don't know if I can take anything away from this season
21:33
and how it's gone that would lead me to go, OK, I want, I
21:37
want, I want Zayn back for sure. Or I want Haas back because
21:41
we've seen him play like 3 Series.
21:42
I mean, it's just, it's a great question.
21:44
It's just really tough because I, I would, hey, if we get Eric
21:48
Morris from North Texas, bring up everyone, man.
21:51
Like if, if you think your guys are going to be guys you want to
21:55
bring with you, like I, I want the next head coach to bring in
21:58
guys with him. Either it's for a camp battle or
22:01
purely out of he that's his guy he trusts.
22:03
And heck, if if North Texas gets in the cultural playoff, which
22:07
they're kind of in line to right now, then I'm all for him
22:10
bringing up whoever, Hey, you playing a cultural playoff game?
22:13
We won one game, dude. You know, I mean, that's kind of
22:16
where I'm at. Like, see what you got, bring it
22:19
on up. Hopefully we can keep the rest
22:20
of the guys around to have some, you know, kind of camp
22:23
competitions. But if the other guys transfer
22:25
out, I'm not going to blame them.
22:27
This is a complete I wouldn't be I wouldn't think it'd be crazy
22:30
to see a whole new roster next year.
22:32
This year we've seen 27 guys who have never played for Oklahoma
22:35
State already play this year, you know, 27 new guys.
22:39
The number will probably keep going up by the end of the
22:42
season. A side tangent, we have a dude
22:46
who was not playing football last year and went to University
22:49
Central Florida just as a student now as like our third
22:53
Stringer and he transferred during the season like in
22:55
September. I'm not sure how that works
22:58
academically. I don't think it matters that
23:00
much. I'm not worried about it, but
23:01
like, we're at the depths, you know, when this is not like the
23:06
sunny days are ahead. They're not here.
23:09
So I'm excited to see what they look like.
23:11
But I'm just, it's a whole blank slate.
23:12
I'll take whatever, wherever you tell me the next head coach
23:16
wants to do this, this whatever. Cool.
23:19
Eric Morris is a former wide receiver for Texas Tech.
23:21
Maybe he wants to bring a bunch of other wide receivers.
23:23
I don't, I don't know. Alex Golish with South Florida,
23:27
he's a former graduate assistant, Oklahoma State.
23:29
He met his wife, I think at Oklahoma State, if I'm reading
23:32
all the tea leaves correctly. So come on back to Stillwater
23:36
and run whatever you want to run, whatever you think will
23:39
work best 'cause we, we just know one thing for sure, it'll
23:42
be different. What is the expectation like if
23:45
we bring back Zach Robinson and you watch the Atlanta Falcons
23:48
this year as a lot of Oklahoma State fans have?
23:50
I'm sure they don't run a lot of pre snap motion.
23:52
They don't do a lot of crazy things on offense.
23:54
But they having they have studs, they don't have to do that.
23:57
They have like the offense you'd want to pick to play with and
24:01
then so they don't have to do that.
24:03
So what does the Zach Robinson coach college team look like
24:07
when he doesn't have all the guys?
24:08
So just a blank slate, happy with whatever I think.
24:12
Man, if you bring Eric Morris up, I think the biggest spoon
24:16
out of that would be Mestemaker, the quarterback who has looked
24:20
kind of really, really good. I mean, I think he's going to be
24:24
out of power like Power 14, no question next year.
24:29
I do want to get a little bit back into the position groups
24:31
and and talk about the running backs.
24:33
And this is a position that historically Oklahoma State is,
24:36
you know, seeing a ton of success with.
24:38
You mentioned some of those guys previously and you know,
24:42
historically as I've watched Oklahoma State, you know,
24:45
they've had a really good run game.
24:47
Rodney Fields Junior been the guy that's really seen a bulk of
24:50
the carries this season. close to 500 rushing yards on the
24:54
year. Also getting some stuff in the
24:56
in the past game, 218 receiving yards and two overall
25:00
touchdowns. You have a couple other backs,
25:02
Trent Howlin, Caleb Hicks, who have over 40 carries this
25:06
season. You know, it it doesn't
25:09
necessarily look like the the Oklahoma State kind of rush
25:12
offensive old. But you know, what if opposing
25:14
defenses done to to kind of maybe limit some of Oklahoma
25:18
State's ability on the ground game this year.
25:20
And, you know, have the past couple games that they've had,
25:24
you know, given any hope that you might be able to get a
25:26
little bit of a running game going this Saturday?
25:29
Yeah, I mean, the the defenses really have done a great job of
25:33
just bottling up any running back production, especially on
25:35
the outside. I mean, the the one thing is
25:38
like, it kind of all goes back to the blocking, unfortunately,
25:40
is that just sometimes the defense doesn't have to rush an
25:44
extra man and they can just match up and still bring it,
25:47
still get a guy through pretty quickly.
25:49
And sometimes they sometimes they don't.
25:51
They just have guys just sitting there in zone and, you know, or
25:55
the playing man coverage either way.
25:56
But they're just waiting for Zane to make a decision back
25:59
there under center or Sam Jackson the 5th.
26:01
They are a wider super quarterback guy and that's
26:04
worked out well for him too. Freddie Brock is on the roster.
26:10
I thought he'd be doing much better.
26:11
Georgia State transfer, the Rodney Fields, he he's the guy
26:16
that you'll see. He and Wendell Gregor are the 2
26:19
Oakland State guys you'd see us be really excited we got back
26:22
next year. Like we'll just be, we'll be
26:24
really happy if we can, we can bring both of them back because
26:27
Rodney Fields looks really good when he has the ball and has
26:30
some space. He's not given a ton of
26:32
opportunity like that, especially because we're not
26:35
throwing the ball that officially.
26:37
So we don't really give the defense another look that they
26:40
might have to worry about. We just, we're OK at running the
26:43
ball, you know, 500 yards rushing with, you know, 8 or so
26:47
games in the books. And he's not taking every snap
26:50
as you just said. So it's OK, but it's not it.
26:55
It's definitely not anywhere close to the offensive old.
26:57
And there's just not a lot that the defenses have to worry
27:00
about. They're able to play the run
27:01
pretty good the whole time and kind of worry about a pass play
27:04
here and there. But the passing game has just
27:07
not been on par with what you would hope for the running game
27:10
to open up. And our running game has not
27:11
been good enough for the passing game to open up.
27:13
It's just kind of, you know, kind of comes back around.
27:16
So kind of a bummer there. But we're really hopeful we can
27:19
bring Rodney Fields back next year for sure.
27:22
Little double edged sword right there.
27:23
One's not opening up for the other one.
27:25
Yeah, you'll have that in the in the down season.
27:28
But I want to talk about these receivers and tight ends
27:31
specifically the receivers. I mean, Gavin Freeman is like
27:35
the prototypical like when I when I remember Oklahoma State
27:39
offenses, he's like that slot guy that would just, but now
27:42
he's kind of have to be the primary receiver.
27:45
He catches a ton of balls. Awesome possession receiver and
27:49
he's completely tatted up aesthetic wise.
27:51
Matt, you know, I'm a huge aesthetic guy.
27:54
Love the way he looks absolutely insane, completely inked out.
27:59
Talk to me about these receivers.
28:00
Gavin Freeman just mentioned him.
28:02
He's a dog. You mentioned the the gadget
28:05
wide receiver slash quarterback. Talk to me about this receiving
28:09
game and what can we look forward to?
28:11
Like we've been known to the K State's been known to give up
28:14
the big deep pass. I think you got a receiver on
28:16
the the roster that's got 15.9 yards per completion.
28:21
Talk to me about these receivers and can they exploit this K
28:24
State defense? Exploit might be a little,
28:28
little strong, but I think they can do something for sure.
28:32
Like I, I think I mean Freeman, he's he's a transfer up from OU
28:36
and he's taking every advantage he can that he's getting a lot
28:38
of snacks to find a lot of open spaces.
28:41
He plays a lot more like David Glidden and oh gosh, just a
28:49
couple of, and I mean, I guess Wes Wolker, I mean, if you're
28:52
really throwing it out there, but like he's able to kind of be
28:54
a little bit smaller Dude under 6 feet, the gadget guy, He's
28:59
he's got the tats. I mean, he is 58185, yeah.
29:02
He reminds me of a little bit of like a less explosive though.
29:05
You had a Presley kid. He was from like Bixby Brennan
29:09
Presley. Yeah, Yeah, I think.
29:11
I think their brother, his brother's actually going to
29:13
Oklahoma State next year, I think, but.
29:15
He's got like 6 brothers, one of them's coming to Oklahoma State.
29:18
One of them was here and then transferred to Tulsa and then
29:20
beat us. So you never know.
29:23
But they're they're from Tulsa to be fair.
29:25
And he wasn't in at Oklahoma State when he transferred out.
29:27
So like now this hearing probably would have played.
29:30
It's just funny how that all works.
29:32
Yeah, he's a little bit like Brennan.
29:34
And the fact he just gets open and then just makes he makes the
29:37
catch, like a lot of passes hit his hands that just are caught,
29:41
and especially ones that you wouldn't think.
29:42
So tomorrow we're going to be Rigby's the guy you're
29:45
mentioning. He's got the 15.6 yards per
29:47
catch. He's just only gotten the ball
29:49
16 times. I mean, really looking at this,
29:51
I was on the podcast I was doing earlier today, you're talking
29:56
about Justin Blackman and going through a little bit.
29:59
Justin Blackman caught like 100 plus balls every year.
30:02
He was with Oakland State all three years.
30:04
And so seeing a guy here eight games in with 36 catches leading
30:07
the team is is alarming. But also it makes sense.
30:11
I mean, we're just having a good passing offense.
30:13
Shamar Rigby might be the guy who wins some jump balls there
30:16
because he's 6 foot 3190. I would love to see him and get
30:19
some more passes thrown his way. And then our kind of converted
30:24
wide receiver quarterback back to quarterback is Sam Jackson,
30:28
who's got 7 receptions this season for about 10 yards.
30:31
I mean that that's one thing is you're looking up now at
30:33
Oklahoma State's like receiving. The averages are almost all for
30:38
all the top guys. The averages are like 10 yards,
30:40
if not more. It just is these guys are not
30:43
getting the ball that much and you know, and they're not
30:45
getting the ball often enough for that average to go down
30:47
either. So our running backs, the second
30:50
highest receiver on the team. So that just kind of tells you
30:53
like how quickly we have to get rid of the ball, how we're not
30:56
able to get a lot of guys in space.
30:58
But Ronnie Fields, junior has 22 catches, his running back for
31:01
9.9 yards on average. Like pretty great at the end of
31:04
the day, just let's keep feeding him.
31:06
You know, I mean, he's got a catch of 63 yards that helps out
31:09
a lot. But it's just not an it just
31:13
hasn't been enough. Clearly didn't make any make any
31:16
sense. We haven't, we haven't finished
31:18
within a touchdown score wise of any game we played since the
31:23
Tulsa loss and that was a touchdown loss.
31:26
So and that was back in September 19th.
31:28
So just a lot of our games have not been close enough for these
31:31
wide receivers to be really stacking up some yardage or
31:34
anything either like we need to throw to them.
31:36
We've just been, you know, our last game was 3821 and that was
31:39
a close game for us. So not overall, just fantastic.
31:43
Yeah, you brought up a really like that Blackmun stat is
31:46
really interesting to me because if you think about those
31:49
Oklahoma State teams, he was there what it was like 910 and
31:53
11. He was there for three years,
31:54
2019. 9:10 and. 11 I mean, like, obviously Brandon Whedon, you
31:59
know, was a great quarterback and but that was like the heyday
32:03
of Big 12 offenses airing the ball out.
32:07
I mean, and today just how football, I feel like it's
32:11
changed. You know, it, I think for a top
32:14
team, I mean Oklahoma State was a top, you know, obviously 10
32:17
team for, you know, two of those years.
32:20
You know, I I guess I have to look at that wide receivers at
32:24
top teams now to see like, but Jeremiah Smith has 65 receptions
32:28
with three games left. I mean, and you would consider
32:32
him to be, you know, one of the top wide receivers in the
32:35
country. So it's just interesting kind of
32:37
how how offenses have changed and what, 15 years, I guess,
32:42
since Justin Blackman played man, he killed us in both those
32:47
games. All right.
32:49
I want to flip it over to the defensive side and talk a little
32:52
bit about a unit that, you know, at the beginning of the season,
32:56
Brian Nardo was the defensive coordinator.
33:00
Was he? Who's the defensive coordinator?
33:01
Todd Todd Grantham. Yeah, sorry.
33:04
Nardo was offense coordinator from last year, right?
33:07
And he was defensive. Nardo was defensive coordinator
33:09
last. Year, last year, sorry anyway,
33:11
but there I I remember kind of bringing in Todd Grantham as
33:16
kind of, you know, a little bit of a change and, you know, you
33:20
look at his kind of past, you know, stops and what he has done
33:23
in college football. It was going to be interesting
33:26
to see how this was going to play out for Oklahoma State this
33:28
year. And, you know, obviously now
33:32
Clint Bowen, who is the interim defensive coordinator is kind of
33:35
trying to, you know, right, the ship kind of maybe later on here
33:38
this season. But looking at Oklahoma State,
33:40
statistically in the Big 12, they do give up the most yards
33:43
in the conference, more points per game.
33:46
It just seems like it's a unit that just hasn't necessarily had
33:49
the pieces work together, you know, and, and, and a majority
33:53
of the games this season. So, you know, thinking about K
33:56
State and a lot of this K State success this year has come from
33:59
explosive plays from the offensive side.
34:02
I imagine that's kind of a point of emphasis from our offensive
34:05
coordinator, Matt Wells going into this game.
34:08
So kind of thinking about maybe what you've seen from K State
34:10
this year and then obviously what you've seen from Oklahoma
34:13
State on the defensive side. Is there anything that
34:15
particularly concerns you about K State's offense going into
34:19
this game against your defense? Yeah, I mean, he's he's got a
34:25
quarterback under center who can run and that is incredible.
34:29
Like a quarterback is just dynamic.
34:31
He's a runner. He's known as that.
34:32
That's incredibly worrying. Like last year we played, that
34:35
was my number one concern going into that K State game was like
34:38
is Avery going to get loose? Is he going to be able to make
34:41
plays with his feet, feel super confident under center or in
34:45
shotgun and be able to make plays where we've got to not
34:48
only worry about his throwing ability but also running
34:50
ability? And the second we have to worry
34:52
about both, we're kind of dead in the water.
34:54
I just knew that from the Arkansas game, how Taylor Green
34:56
was just taking us apart, you know, in that we kind of got a
34:59
couple of weird lucky interceptions and kind of
35:03
turnovers that were shown our way and a couple other places
35:05
went our way period that that, you know, maybe the plan again,
35:08
don't. I mean, we took Arkansas to a
35:10
double overtime win at home and we have AI think an interception
35:14
to end the second overtime. And just just stuff like that
35:17
where I knew when we played K State last year, it's like, all
35:19
right, everybody can get going. That's tough.
35:22
And that's really what the worry is again, to be honest, I mean,
35:24
I don't think you guys have the greatest running game in the
35:27
entire world, but I'm definitely worried about your running game
35:30
just because we're we're dead last.
35:32
And like, you know, it is just what it is.
35:35
Like, I'm not trying to call it anything more than hey, you know
35:39
what? We are worse in offense and
35:41
defense again, in team stats this year average a game 38.8
35:46
points that were giving up on defense and offense were scoring
35:49
15.2. Like it it, it's just, it's just
35:53
really a bad luck. And I would be shocked honestly,
35:56
if we hope K State's under 38 points because I think you guys
35:59
do have an explosive offense as you mentioned.
36:02
And I don't think there's a lot of, hey, this is the time to
36:07
take a stand. Like this is the game to make a
36:09
stand just because it's not senior day and you guys are 20
36:13
point favorites. Like I I do think that gets in
36:15
all students heads as well too. Like it's not going into this
36:19
one. I was hoping hey, Hossein will
36:21
be back, etcetera, etcetera. And this will be the closest
36:23
game we have of the year because you guys in your four and five,
36:26
we had to play Iowa State later on.
36:28
He was not four and five, no offense, right?
36:30
Like that's the other at home game we have.
36:32
We might beat UCF at UCF, but like I'm looking at like what
36:35
are possible when in the season and after we lost Tulsa, I was
36:39
like hopefully K State and it just there's just no way.
36:44
I mean, you guys are like nowhere near the bottom in
36:46
either offense or defensive stats.
36:48
You're not at the very top, but like you're middle of the pack.
36:51
It's it it's I think I'm rightfully going yeah, you guys
36:55
probably going to have a lot of points.
36:57
I'd be surprised to be on score 40 just because our defense has
36:59
had a lot of points and not really held a lot of held the
37:03
teams. It's a lot of field goals.
37:04
So. Yeah, I'm terrified of
37:06
Stillwater. I, I'm, I'm trying to get on
37:08
board with what you're saying. And I, I love that you're
37:11
pumping me right now, but it's not, I'm not, I don't believe it
37:15
yet. Because you've got guys on that
37:17
side of the ball like Wendell Gregory, that we just played
37:20
Texas Tech. And I'm not going to say that
37:23
like your D line is anywhere near as powerful as Texas Tech,
37:27
who's like one of the tops in the the country.
37:29
But Wendell Gregory is an absolute dude and he he can get
37:33
after the quarterback. He can change games and with our
37:36
offensive line the way it is, I'm not going to put it past
37:40
anybody that he can make a game out of anything with a, you
37:43
know, a couple sack game of Avery Johnson.
37:45
So talk to me about this D line. I know you just you mentioned
37:49
earlier in the the episode that we're probably going to be
37:52
sending double teams his way. But outside of him, can you talk
37:56
to me about this pass rush on the D line and maybe even
37:59
sprinkle a little bit of this linebacker core because I want
38:02
to know what the front that you're you're, you're throwing
38:04
out there is, is it, are you loading this box?
38:07
I mean, what, what has Oklahoma State done defensively?
38:10
Because I know it's, it can't. It's got to be far from the Jim
38:12
Knowles 335, right? Yeah, it's something like that.
38:16
I mean, the defensive Internet defensive coordinator came over
38:20
from Tulsa. His son is one of the
38:22
quarterbacks on the team, one of the four.
38:25
It's kind of the state of the program.
38:27
But we're we're we've got Julio Johnson out there on defensive
38:31
ends like I thought he was. I didn't Wendell Gregory come in
38:33
this season as a freshman transfer from South Carolina.
38:36
Julio Johnson was the name that I knew coming into the season.
38:39
And then on the other guy whose defensive tackle or nose tackle
38:42
is Aman Oates. And he's the other guy who I'm
38:44
like, hey, he's, he's pretty good.
38:47
And I'm surprised all three of these guys, you know, including
38:51
Wendell Gregory, have not been able to grate more than 5
38:54
fumbles on the season. Now that's not worse than Big
38:57
12, but Baylor and BYE or the worst Big 12 with four fumbles
39:01
great on the season. So it's not a not a great stat
39:04
overall, they are really taking a ton away from.
39:06
But like interceptions, say we've got 3 interceptions on the
39:09
season forced. That's one more than Kane than
39:12
Cincinnati, excuse me. And then when it comes down to
39:15
at the end of the day, like our, our defense should be more of a
39:19
calling card. It should be something that
39:20
we're really proud and excited about.
39:22
We just it, it's bizarre that like we can't put it all
39:26
together. We can't have one game where we
39:29
kind of get everything all going together.
39:31
And I, I get it, but I, I, I don't know it, it's really
39:38
tough. Like we have, we, we don't have
39:43
a guy in the top or I guess Brian McCoy junior is our top
39:46
tack is our top tackler for any guy in the Big 12, top rated
39:50
guy. And he's down there 25th for,
39:54
you know, about a tackle on a season.
39:55
So not the greatest look for us overall as a, as a team, but
39:59
like we're, we could, we could stay in the game longer than you
40:03
would think. I'm not trying to say we're
40:04
going to get obliterated like a 20 point win is.
40:08
Pretty good and it's not really a close game, but then again,
40:12
like we will show up, we will score some points one would
40:14
think. I don't think your guys's
40:16
defense is as good as Texas tax and that's who held us
40:19
scoreless. But I also don't think your
40:21
defense is bad enough where we're going to make it more of a
40:24
game than we did against Kansas. If I'm using the Kansas
40:27
barometer as something to take away from you guys play Kansas,
40:30
beat them pretty good. We play Kansas, we lose to them
40:34
by 21 points, but we were in it for a little bit of the game, so
40:38
there's some happiness take away from it, just not a ton.
40:43
I want to last, you know, kind of position group on the
40:46
defensive side, talk about the secondary.
40:48
You have a guy who's been a five year guy in the secondary and
40:51
Parker Robinson and he's I think third in the team in tackles, 54
40:59
total tackles, has an interception this year as well
41:01
as a forced fumble. But you know, a guy, again, when
41:04
I think of Oklahoma State of guys that, you know, stay in the
41:07
program for a long time and they end up, you know, really making
41:11
an impact in their kind of later, later years.
41:15
A few other names, Mordecai McDaniel, he's a Charlotte
41:18
transfer that came in this year. He has 38 total tackles, one
41:21
sack. And then from a quarterback
41:23
position, Ladainian Fields has an interception with 9 tackles.
41:27
Kenneth Harris and Cam Smith have over 20 tackles at the
41:31
position. K State, I mean, has shown this
41:34
year they've had a pretty good vertical passing attack,
41:36
multiple receivers who you know, who do have some big
41:39
playability. That being said, JB Bradley
41:42
expected to be out for this game.
41:44
Chase Brown has not been 100% this year.
41:46
So what have you seen from the defensive backs this season And
41:51
and you know, what kind of coverage between maybe man and
41:53
zone can we expect to see from this team?
41:58
I got to be honest, I'm not the best dissecting all of that.
42:01
So like this like zone versus man.
42:03
I'm the guy who wanted to play high school football but never
42:06
did because I had glasses and braces the entire time.
42:08
And I've tried to do my best to learn more of the offensive side
42:11
of it since then, but I Parker Robertson is one of the nicest
42:17
and one of the best people I've ever met.
42:19
But like he is a former walk on. So just take it for granted.
42:22
Like he is he is the heart and soul of this defense.
42:25
If Wendell Gregory's not like he he is the guy he's marrying one
42:29
of the the palm girls engaged to him like he is Oklahoma State
42:33
for and for and he's an awesome dude.
42:35
It it just is kind of like a matter of the fact deal where
42:38
like you would hope that he wouldn't.
42:41
He would be a supportive guy. He would be a guy you'd be
42:43
talking about as like a playmaker, a dude who oh, and
42:47
then they've also got Parker Robertson.
42:48
But like instead we're kind of leaning off talking with them,
42:51
which is again, just kind of a state of where we're at.
42:53
We got guys transferring out all the time.
42:55
We got one one on the season. I'm not saying anything I
42:57
haven't said earlier. We just Ledani Fields has thrown
43:02
up played pretty good, but like not good enough.
43:06
I don't think we have a defensive guy besides window
43:08
Gregory that other teams are really worried and have to focus
43:11
on or about. We don't have like a guy from
43:13
the any of the three levels of the defense, you know, whether
43:16
it be the defensive backs, linebackers, defensive line that
43:20
really bring a ton of worry to teams.
43:23
And and if you've got some big boys up front, you're going to
43:25
be able to handle window Gregory enough that that the rest of the
43:28
guys are going to be muted and not make a huge difference.
43:31
I, I, I will say I think Parker Robertson probably gets
43:35
interception before the year's over.
43:36
He just seems like he's due. He's put his couple of couple
43:39
mitts on a couple balls and hasn't worked out exactly.
43:43
He just hasn't come down with it.
43:44
It has to been a little bit too erratic for him to pull it off,
43:46
but I, I, I'm more than like really proud that like he's
43:51
played the whole season. He's played really tough like
43:53
with a infields, like a lot of the guys who are who are on the
43:56
team in games are not quitting, which is great to see.
43:59
Of course, we did see a little bit of that last year.
44:01
I'm not going to name names, but certain guy transferred down
44:04
South who wasn't putting up 110% effort for Oklahoma State last
44:07
year it seemed, and now it seems like he is putting up 110%
44:11
effort and he's making a huge name for himself.
44:14
So props to I mean props to Kendall Daniels.
44:16
I'll say his name now, but like you would just hope that all
44:20
these guys keep trying as hard as they can, because then I
44:23
think that's how we could stay in a game and and and actually
44:26
win. It's like, Hey, K state score
44:27
the first possession. All right, cool, let's make sure
44:30
they don't score the second possession or the third
44:32
possession. And how can we kind of try to
44:34
cause back into it? It does seem like our offense
44:36
seems a little bit to get going each time and it's not that hot
44:40
to start. And that's very emblematic of a
44:43
retrofreshment quarterback, you know, and an offensive line
44:46
that's not the greatest of the world and offensive backs who
44:50
are all new or changing scenery or change of pace.
44:53
And the one running back we didn't talk about is Trent
44:55
Howland. He's going to run some weird
44:58
Wildcat stuff, I assume. And he also may just run over
45:01
you guys. I mean, that dude, he's
45:02
physically a massive guy. And Trent Howland is not in a
45:06
tush push next year for some team.
45:08
I'd be shocked. I mean, he's that he's that he's
45:10
a fullback who's playing running back.
45:12
He's Derrick Henry size. He just, of course, it's not
45:15
Derrick Henry fast, but it's Derrick Henry size.
45:18
You know, if he wants Derrick Henry fast, he would.
45:21
We'd be making more noise than we are now for sure.
45:24
Yeah, well, you know, just as important as a running back with
45:28
Derrick Henry size is a kicker that has a leg that can make
45:32
kicks. You got one that has made all of
45:35
his extra points. He's 11 of 15 on the season.
45:39
Or is it 1114? I don't want to discredit my
45:42
guy. Logan Ward, 11 of 15, talk to me
45:46
about the kickers real quick. You know, just highlight them
45:49
because I, I think he's kind of a bright spot.
45:51
I like 11 of 15. I will take that from a college
45:54
kicker every time. And then that's the first part
45:57
of my question and I want to get back to the second part.
46:00
So kickoffs for Oklahoma State, which I'm pretty sure is our
46:05
Logan Ward guy here, we're first in the conference in kickoffs.
46:08
I mean many yardage like a kickoffs first in the Big 12
46:13
yeah, our average yards a game in in kickoffs is pretty high up
46:17
there. So you know our net excuse me,
46:22
is the exact term I was looking for so pretty good there.
46:24
And Logan Ward's a a pretty darn good kicker.
46:27
He is 11 to 15. And you know, I mean that
46:30
percentage on on field goals total in the season is
46:33
incredible. And point after touchdown Grant,
46:36
we are not going to have a lot of touchdowns, but he's perfect.
46:39
He's 14 to 14. So he doesn't get much better
46:42
than that. And then Wes Paul or or punter,
46:46
as you know, he's 6/6 in the in the conference in punting that
46:52
Putzburg game. He's that punts.
46:53
Excuse me? He's 41.5, which is tied with
46:57
like #3 in the Big 12 in BYU. So we're pretty darn good.
47:02
If we if we could just be kicking it more often, we'd be
47:06
better if we somehow figure out a way to run more plays with our
47:10
kicker and Hunter in. I love it.
47:14
OK, Now my very, this is my very specific Oklahoma State question
47:19
that I only asked you guys. What are the uniform
47:22
combinations you're going to be wearing for senior?
47:25
I I love this for Oklahoma State because you probably have
47:28
arguably the best combinations of anybody in the conference.
47:34
For but you're asking for this weekend or for senior?
47:36
Yeah, I I don't, I don't know if they because usually like
47:39
uniform Twitter is like one of the best things and they do
47:42
reveals and stuff down season. I don't know if they're doing
47:45
that right now, but what would be your guess if you if you had
47:49
to guess? So my guess is we wear well,
47:57
it's a it's a day game, so or it's 11 AM pick up.
47:59
So we're not wearing black. I wouldn't think otherwise.
48:02
If it's a night time game, we might wear black, but otherwise
48:04
probably not. It's the jersey.
48:07
I I bet we're wearing orange and then black, orange, black.
48:11
To be honest, I I bet that's it, Black, orange, black with a
48:14
little cowboy script helmet, just because I'm wearing a
48:16
script. So I'd love to see it.
48:19
I feel like it's just a really clean good luck we've got going.
48:21
Maybe we'll break out a helmet with Pete on it on the side.
48:24
That'd be kind of sick. I really want the Chrome helmets
48:29
back. Like what do we have to do to
48:30
get the Chrome back in action? The James.
48:34
The Oklahoma State played Washington and the bowl game and
48:37
we wore these orange Chrome helmets.
48:39
We had a defensive lineman named James Castman leak out like he
48:43
played for the off like he played for the Detroit Lions and
48:46
got thrown the pass and trucked a dude and part of his helmet
48:49
chips off. Like everyone's probably seen
48:51
the GIF if it's not describing it, maybe not the best.
48:55
Like we're the orange orange Chrome helmets.
48:57
Bring them back. Let's do let's do full orange
48:59
Chrome unis Chrome lettering on the numbers.
49:01
Like I would love to see that. I instead probably think it's
49:04
like black, orange, black. And we're not putting out the
49:06
world's greatest uniforms, but honestly, with Justin Blackman
49:10
back for the weekend, maybe we do a little retro vibe.
49:13
We do a little those. Grays.
49:15
Black, black, orange, orange or something.
49:18
You know, bring the Grays back. I love the Grays that you guys
49:22
used to wear too. Those were just like out of
49:24
nowhere, just like a little Gray accent in there.
49:27
A grey accent or grey hole jersey.
49:30
I think they had. I think you guys wore the grey.
49:32
No, no, what? What do you want?
49:34
Because I'm very opinionated in this.
49:36
OK, well, for me, I like them, but I I'm not too deep in there.
49:40
But like for me, I think that Oklahoma State should do
49:45
something like similar. Not necessarily there's two
49:47
different oranges, but what the, what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers do
49:51
with the Creamsicle. I think you guys deserve like a
49:55
Creamsicle uniform. That's what I would want.
50:00
When you said I'm not too deep into it, pause.
50:03
I don't know if the Gray unis are like the best unis you ever
50:07
had. Like you're not too deep into
50:10
the Grays because like you, you, you don't know where I'm leaning
50:13
here. I'm against them like.
50:15
You are. We, we are orange.
50:18
We are Oklahoma State. We have the America's brightest
50:21
orange. That's our more orange.
50:23
Yeah, I. I but I'm also the dork in high
50:26
school who wore like Boise State colour school.
50:29
I was like, I love blue and I'm going to Oklahoma State.
50:31
I'm wearing orange and blue every day like and it was Boise
50:33
State, boy, it was not Navy. So like I am that dork.
50:36
So just take over the grain of salt.
50:38
Like my my jersey opinions are probably not the greatest in the
50:41
world, but like Gray is like a suit.
50:43
You know, when Gray really shows sweat And like, you know, we're
50:47
we're flashy. We're a cool office for a full
50:50
school. Like come to Oklahoma State
50:51
because like we've got banana guys in the stands and got guys
50:54
waiting on their shirts off, you know, and stuff like that.
50:57
And it's just we got a whole no shirty one section instead of
51:00
231. Like, come on, come to Oklahoma
51:03
State. See the bright color?
51:04
See the bright America's brightest orange.
51:06
Like be proud of the orange. Like let's wear more.
51:09
The Gray was fine as pants, weird as a helmet, because it
51:13
was like Matt, totally cool with it for like when we have like
51:18
our Oh gosh, I'm gonna we have like our military appreciation
51:23
game. I'm totally cool with a lot of
51:26
grade for that game, but outside of that we're we we got some
51:31
sick uniforms. I agree correctly.
51:34
Let's let's wear more orange. That's that's my opinion
51:37
personal. I think they're going to do
51:39
white, orange. White, orange, white.
51:44
I mean, you can't go white. Orange, black.
51:45
What are you, a tiny corn white? Orange.
51:48
Orange. You didn't do WOB or WOW.
51:51
Either way, we have the acronym set up for it to be clear.
51:53
White, orange, Orange. Woo.
51:56
Little woo, little. Woo, isn't that I?
52:01
I swear they had. They did white and then orange.
52:03
Orange once. I think they've done so many
52:06
different companies. Multiple Yeah, now, now that I'm
52:08
like freaking Googling this because I'm like, I, I mean, I
52:12
agree. Like the black men, the black
52:14
men, white helmets with the like the old, like blocky OSU on the
52:19
side was like, that's how I remember Oklahoma State, like
52:22
prime Oklahoma State. Yeah.
52:25
Now they've gone more script than ever before.
52:28
And I love the script. Well, I have a script pokes or
52:32
is that frowned? Upon in Oklahoma State world
52:34
Well, well, chef, we're deep into the Jersey Lord so I don't
52:37
know if you mind me sharing my screen here but we have the
52:40
whole deal set up here so I think you guys got it yeah,
52:46
we've got all right we've got record.
52:49
Is that record? Change for the.
52:51
Losses. We've got the black helmet, the
52:54
orange helmet, white helmet. We got the jersey, you got the
52:56
pants. You know, we got it all broken
52:58
down here real well. Shout out to Justin Southwell.
53:00
I believe he runs this out at Southwell on on Twitter X
53:06
wherever you see it. He does his own podcast too with
53:08
the reload. They do a great job.
53:11
Former former walk on Oklahoma State cowboy just there's.
53:14
Three and O with there. I know there's three and O with
53:17
woo. No good.
53:18
Three and O with woo. Hey, you guys are trying to call
53:22
them to Stillwater and win. We're we're trying to win,
53:24
period. I don't know what's wrong with
53:26
grey, black, grey, That's one and O.
53:28
Grey, black, grey. OK.
53:30
Black. What?
53:30
Yeah, I mean, we, we, we've got it like jerseys all orange,
53:37
weirdly enough, for three and 131.
53:39
Wow. OK, I'm just trying to find a
53:41
bad bad combo that's got just the worst combo.
53:46
Black or never worn? Orange, grey, grey.
53:49
That's interesting. Like there's combos that you
53:52
don't even add that you haven't even cracked out yet, which is.
53:55
We both are never wearing grey, orange, orange, you know.
54:00
From a Kansas State perspective, this board just is mind blowing.
54:05
Like it's insane. I'm very jealous.
54:08
Let's. I'm very jealous as well.
54:10
When we when we are wearing all whites at home and everybody's
54:14
flipping out for the. First time poop their pants into
54:16
that, that is what we get. Well, I think of anything you
54:20
want us to wear an orange helmet because we're 1816 in those.
54:24
And then you definitely want us to wear a white jersey, which.
54:29
Probably not. Probably.
54:30
Not going to do. I'm not going to do that.
54:34
Just wear orange helmet, orange pants and well now that's
54:39
better. Win orange helmet and black
54:41
pants and then do whatever you want with the jersey.
54:44
I doubt that's. The jersey ring workout.
54:46
Every jersey we've worn, we somehow have just killed it.
54:49
I don't know how it works. Yeah.
54:52
I mean, we've, we've got, we've got the, I mean the whole bottom
54:54
right corner of this where we wear a grey.
54:56
We're a grey helmet. We basically lose, you know, or
54:58
we don't claim it. Yeah.
55:01
I mean, we're seven. No, in white, black, white.
55:04
So as long as we don't wear white, black, white, we're good.
55:07
You know, I mean, there's, there's there's some stuff here
55:09
going on. I think he want us to really
55:12
wear the black orange because we're one in three.
55:15
And that's also one of the things I was saying we'd wear.
55:18
So you're like, hey, hey, Cal gets his wish when we also have
55:22
a better record when they're black, orange, orange.
55:24
So yeah. I mean.
55:26
That's that's the. Question you're asking, I'm
55:29
against the Gray, but and I'm glad you're deep in it, but I'm
55:33
not. I'm just from a fan, fan
55:36
perspective that that is one of the highlights of Oklahoma State
55:39
because I've, I've never had any qualms with Oklahoma State ever,
55:43
other than you guys beating us constantly in Stillwater.
55:46
I, I love Oklahoma State. So from a fan perspective, I
55:50
hope that you guys get whatever you want as long as it's not
55:53
Colin Klein. And, you know, I just, I just
55:57
hope you guys get back to the, the potential that I know that
56:00
you guys have because going into the two seasons ago when
56:05
Oklahoma left and that whole fiasco and Texas left, everyone
56:09
is wondering who was going to take that that step and be the,
56:13
you know, the front runner in the conference.
56:16
And I, I couldn't, you couldn't have told me that Gundy was gone
56:19
and Oklahoma State wasn't going to be at least have their hat in
56:22
the ring. And now here we are.
56:24
Yeah. Here we are.
56:26
Here we are. We would have thought, you know,
56:29
it's got that spider man meme meme pointing at all of us.
56:32
You know, we're all pointing at each other.
56:33
I because I never would have thought we'd be here.
56:36
Never would have thought that this would have been how this
56:37
season would go. To be honest, I thought Gundy
56:39
would coach out the rest of the whole season and then we'd beat
56:42
Tulsa. We might be two and, you know,
56:45
two wins, but. And what, like we hadn't lost to
56:48
Tulsa in Stillwater since the 50s, I think.
56:52
I mean, that that record coming down like that was when you kind
56:55
of know, all right, Gundy's probably getting fired.
56:58
Yeah, probably, you know. Yeah, all right.
57:01
Prediction Time. Yeah, I think let's go around,
57:05
you know, this is a a game for me and I think about like K
57:09
State, you know, we finally kind of exorcised the demon of
57:13
winning a game on the road against KUA few weeks ago.
57:15
We hadn't won a game on the road in over a year at that time.
57:20
There's some things that give me pause about this game.
57:23
I'm thinking about like an 11:00 kick a team that I'm not saying
57:28
they don't have anything to play for anymore, but there isn't as
57:30
much excitement I think coming out of the program right now and
57:34
it gives me a little bit of pause for this game that I see a
57:36
19 1/2 point spread to cover. I just don't I don't see that we
57:44
have some injuries on defence. I I don't know.
57:48
I, I do think I think we win. I think K state wins 3821.
57:54
I think Oklahoma State covers the 19 1/2.
57:59
I I would not be surprised to see this closer.
58:01
I, I just, I don't know, I just think we could have the
58:04
potential to start off slow in a game that, you know, their main
58:10
not this is nothing against Oklahoma State, but I just
58:12
think, you know, we're four and five and what are we playing
58:17
for? And that's, that's what maybe
58:19
I'm a little bit concerned about, but I think K State wins
58:23
this game. My prediction is 3821.
58:28
OK, I'll go next and I'll leave Cal to end it and top US off
58:32
with whatever he thinks is going to happen.
58:34
I've got, I think Vegas has this number perfectly. 19 1/2 is, I
58:38
mean, dead on it. That's exactly where I would
58:40
have thought this game would go. I see Rd.
58:43
I don't see how we can score 40. As much as Cal wants to get my
58:47
hopes up and there's no chance, I think we score 40.
58:49
I think 33 is probably the high end of where I'm going, so I'm
58:53
going to go that way just because Vegas is telling me to.
58:57
I'm going to go 33 to 13. I think our defense still has
59:01
some life, even though we've lost Austin Romain for the
59:07
season, which is terrible, terrible news to hear. 3313, we
59:12
win by 20. Give me the cats. 4 field goals.
59:17
Hey, Rodriguez is one of the best in the Big 12.
59:21
Yeah, OK. I think there's some funny, I
59:22
think there's some funny business in there with some
59:24
safety, safety as well. And A and a miss 2 point
59:28
conversion miss, you know, something like that.
59:30
Be like the the Chargers Steelers game last night, which
59:33
score was 5 to 3 at one point. Yeah, what?
59:39
I mean, so, so far, so far this season, you guys have scored
59:44
quite a bit of points in every game.
59:46
I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, you scored seventeen against
59:48
Arizona, but I'm talking that's forever ago now.
59:52
But the last what? The last three games, you guys
59:54
have put up 40 in each of the about 3:00 last games or excuse
59:57
me? No, no, that was but you put 20.
1:00:00
This is your get right game. You put you, you, you play Texas
1:00:03
Tech. And they'd be, you know, was at
1:00:06
home and didn't feel great. And now you can go out and just
1:00:09
kill A-Team. Like just go, hey, let's let's
1:00:12
show everyone we're made of what's this is this is the bye
1:00:15
week. We got basically back-to-back
1:00:17
bye weeks. Like that's that's what you
1:00:19
know, you got to coach worth his soul.
1:00:20
He's walking in the room and going, hey, here's the deal.
1:00:24
We're playing a team this week that's lasting offense and
1:00:26
defense in the conference by a wide margin.
1:00:30
Are we going to win or what? Like let's who are you guys?
1:00:33
And then also, this isn't like backs against the wall.
1:00:36
If we don't win this, we don't go to a bowl game.
1:00:37
You don't win this one. You still could beat Utah and
1:00:40
beat Colorado now that season go to a bowl game.
1:00:42
Now I don't I don't protect you to beat Utah.
1:00:44
So you kind of got to win this one to to go to a bowl game.
1:00:46
But like it's it's this is a home game.
1:00:50
I mean, you know, for Oklahoma State, that's really what we've
1:00:52
got going for us. Besides that, like maybe maybe
1:00:55
Shamar Rigby and Terrell Davis decide, hey, Justin Blackman's
1:00:58
in the building. We got to show them up.
1:01:00
We put up some record amount of points.
1:01:02
Our defense gets a couple picks. But in all reality, I, I do
1:01:05
think this is probably, probably I, I'm going to say it's closer.
1:01:09
I'm going to say it's 3120130124 because I am an Oklahoma State
1:01:13
fan. I do see that we're building on
1:01:15
something week over week and the offense is turning upwards and
1:01:19
we had a quarterback last game against KU who came back from
1:01:22
injury to kind of rush back and play it seen from all the
1:01:25
wording from coaches. This time he's got another bye
1:01:27
week. He's got should be fully
1:01:28
healthy, should have the often squirter should be able to go.
1:01:32
Hey, listen, like we're able to lay out a whole game plan for a
1:01:34
bye week. What do we got?
1:01:36
This would be it. I still think K Co one, don't
1:01:38
get me wrong, but I think we'll cover the spread and maybe even
1:01:41
within 10 seven points. So I'm going to say 3121 is my
1:01:44
final. I think that's going to be it
1:01:47
just because I also think like you guys will run the ball and
1:01:50
we'll be running the balls. There won't be that much time to
1:01:52
put up kind of points either. And that'd be barely under the
1:01:55
over, under that Vegas has got, I think, or maybe barely over.
1:01:59
I think it was 51 half. So like I'm right on the number.
1:02:01
So that's where it comes from too.
1:02:04
Good stuff. Well, Cal, thank you so much for
1:02:06
coming on the show. Let all the cokeheads know where
1:02:09
they can find you so they can start, you know, following.
1:02:13
You can find me at the CGA tour. I am so sorry for keeping the
1:02:17
label of my podcast on earlier where it sat as a host for a
1:02:20
solid couple minutes until I figured that out.
1:02:22
My apologies, Matt and chef and chef.
1:02:25
I'm happy to be deep in the grey with you and I'll pause a little
1:02:28
bit on that, but leave it alone. So thanks so much.
1:02:32
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Representative on the College Huddle, which the CGA Tour is a
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proud member of, as well as us. And the college huddle is the
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largest community of fan driven content in the nation.
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You can check them out at college huddle.com, the college
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huddle.com and follow them on social media at the college
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huddle. And then last but not least, you
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Twitter, blue sky everywhere, or you can follow us individually.
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I am at Matt Marchasini. Chef is at Chef Andre Napier and
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again said that Bob can make it but Bob is at at Bob Trollsby
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Chef. Cocaine's a hell of a drug,
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baby. We're all coke and no joke,
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Wildcat country. Let's.
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Let's rock, dude. And go pokes.
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And go pokes no and. What was that Utah guy doing?