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The Bolt Repot | 16 October · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: East the reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight is Anthony Alvinezi finished why this looks like the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the end for the Prime Minister. Fuss is
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Speaker 2: new foreign policy designed by and four Aborigines. How does
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Speaker 2: that work? Meanwhile Foreign Minscipenny while has trouble selling our
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Speaker 2: own policy to anti Israel extremists.
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Speaker 3: And twenty twenty four is on track to be even worse.
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Speaker 2: Does it seem to you that things are kind of
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Speaker 2: falling apart? Also tonight, how the media is now outright
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Speaker 2: lying about Donald Trump's s laatest rally, saying he seemed senile,
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Speaker 2: and Channel nine handing down a reporting to claims of
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Speaker 2: terrible sexual abuse among its executives. But first, anthinky alban
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Speaker 2: easy crossed the dangerous line today. As of today, the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister's leadership is in question for the first time.
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Speaker 2: His own ministers are telling journalists he has no judgment.
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Speaker 2: Labor friendly journalists on the ABC Today sound a shot
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Speaker 2: that they had been talked to Albanize his own colleagues
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Speaker 2: in cabinet that were calling him names for buying a
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Speaker 2: four point three million dollar beach house on New South
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Speaker 2: Wales central coast, complete with sweeping views of the ocean.
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Speaker 2: They were wondering had hed gone crazy.
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Speaker 4: There's concern within the government that this is really shocking timing.
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Speaker 4: I've had expressions like tone deaf, put to me selfish.
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Speaker 2: Four other Labour MPs, again anonymous, vented their anger in
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Speaker 2: the city morning herald. One said I can't think of
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Speaker 2: a greater act of self sabotage in my life. This
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Speaker 2: is effing terrible. Another said it was not a good look,
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Speaker 2: and yet another told Sherry marks in here on sky
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Speaker 2: Labor members must be wondering if their captain had his
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Speaker 2: hid in the game. So albernize he must have had
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Speaker 2: a sinking feeling this morning when journalists asked him about
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Speaker 2: attacks on him by his own MPs. This time who
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Speaker 2: were even likening his decision to buy this house to
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison going to Hawaii during the Black Summer bushfires
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Speaker 2: five years ago, a mistake that ultimately finished Morrison as
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Speaker 2: Prime minister. How embarrassing was this?
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Speaker 5: How do you.
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Speaker 4: Respond to senor Labor sources who have likened the decision
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Speaker 4: to Scott Morrison's Forwaii should.
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Speaker 6: What I'm focused on is delivering more houses for Australians. Yes,
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Speaker 6: I was in Queensland when announced eleven hundred new homes
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Speaker 6: for Queen Centers.
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Speaker 2: So, like I said, a line has now been crossed
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Speaker 2: both by Albanizi and the Labor MPs he pretends to lead.
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Speaker 2: As I said on Monday too, Albanese's authority was already
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Speaker 2: destroyed when Australian Is a year ago rejected his racist voice,
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Speaker 2: and then the government's drifted from cockup to scandal to
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Speaker 2: cock up. Like I say, drifted, drifted. But until this week,
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Speaker 2: until yesterday, his colleagues had stayed disciplined, as if expecting
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Speaker 2: that Albanesi would somehow bounce back with an agenda the
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Speaker 2: most finely wow voters have been smashed by inflation and
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Speaker 2: falling living standards. Didn't happen. But only now has that
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Speaker 2: discipline truly broken, with his widespread leaking by labor politicians
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Speaker 2: of their anger and frustration with alban Easy. Not coincidentally
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Speaker 2: it came the day after news poll for the first
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Speaker 2: time had Labor behind the coalition. So I suspect there's
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Speaker 2: now a panic sitting in in labor now. Some labor
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Speaker 2: spokesmen have still tried to publicly defend Albanesi's decision to
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Speaker 2: buy that expensive beachfront house at Copa Caban, of all places, mean,
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Speaker 2: of all the frivolous names, and she minster. Chris Barnes,
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Speaker 2: for instance, today was saying, oh, look, buying a house
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Speaker 2: ahead of Albanese's marriage, that's just his private business. Get
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Speaker 2: off his back.
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Speaker 1: I think the average Australian say is fair enough, leave
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Speaker 1: him alone.
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Speaker 2: Except, of course, this is not just Albanese's private business.
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Speaker 2: I mean you just look look at the papers, look
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Speaker 2: on the TV shows, look at the intense public reaction
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Speaker 2: and media coverage, all of it totally predictable, almost all
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Speaker 2: of it negative. Now, sure you know Albanesi's nice houses
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Speaker 2: has him flaming destroy his ugly tall poppy jealousy and
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Speaker 2: that's really contemptible. But there's more to this anti Albanese
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Speaker 2: backlash than mere envy or a suspicion that Albanze is
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Speaker 2: checking out of politics for more beach time. Just have
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Speaker 2: a look at the timing and the context. This news
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Speaker 2: is coming out at the very time that Albanize is
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Speaker 2: going around the country trying to sell his latest plan
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Speaker 2: to try to tackle the housing crisis. So that's what
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Speaker 2: it's so embarrassing. Today. Albany is You're trying to switch
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Speaker 2: the conversation from him buying a lovely four point three
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Speaker 2: million dollar home on the beach, so the homes that
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Speaker 2: other Australians are struggling to buy themselves are switched. So
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Speaker 2: jarring that you try this morning to keep his press
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Speaker 2: conference short.
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Speaker 7: A number of labor and pay privately boys thinks to
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Speaker 7: earn about the decision to buy this gust Now what
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Speaker 7: do you.
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Speaker 5: Say to them?
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Speaker 6: I'm focused on getting our help to buy legislation too.
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Speaker 6: I'm focused on three things. One is making sure that
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Speaker 6: more Australians can buy their own home, second is helping
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Speaker 6: renters through our build to Rent scheme, and the third
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Speaker 6: is our Housing Australia Future Fund and making sure that
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Speaker 6: there's more public and social and community housing.
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Speaker 2: What shocking, tarming? Just like just colleague said, this is
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Speaker 2: why this this is not a private matter. This is
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Speaker 2: why alban EASi is so few aired his colleagues. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just months before a very tough election Albany, he goes
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Speaker 2: and buy is an expensive house that is naturally going
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Speaker 2: to make millions of voters compare their finances to his
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Speaker 2: and make them feel like losers. But worse, many younger
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Speaker 2: voters will work out. The reason they can't buy their
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Speaker 2: first time like Albany is he did back when he
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Speaker 2: was their age, is in part because of Albanese's own
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Speaker 2: failures as Prime Minister. I mean, how can they you know,
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Speaker 2: inflation so high thanks to his policies and so letting
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Speaker 2: in a million immigrants half a million a year now
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Speaker 2: still no wonder the houses have dried up, no wonder
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Speaker 2: they can't buy and he can. And seeing him there
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Speaker 2: with his beach house, I mean, goodness me like I say,
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Speaker 2: what a disaster. The joining me is the Wednesday political Panel,
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Speaker 2: Cameron Milner, former chief of Staff, the Labor leader Bill
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Speaker 2: Short and our director of GXO Strategies, and Michael Costa,
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Speaker 2: former New South Wales Labor Treasurer. Michael, you know this
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Speaker 2: issue does sound trivial. The Prime Minister ap buys himself
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Speaker 2: in the new house, is getting married, why the hell not?
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Speaker 2: But the political pain is so big, it's totally out
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Speaker 2: of proportion, but it is big, it's underneable. And the
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Speaker 2: fact that for the very first time we have several
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Speaker 2: labor MPs even ministers privately telling journalists that Prime Minister's
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Speaker 2: terrible judgment is even selfish. How significant is that? Well ed?
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Speaker 8: He's obviously significant and you'll probably see the impact in
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Speaker 8: the newspot, but I don't think it's to make any
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Speaker 8: difference to his leadership. I don't think he's going to
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Speaker 8: be under challenge. The Rudd rules enshaw that he remains.
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Speaker 8: And look, the bottom line here is, you know, none
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Speaker 8: of the surprises me, and I'm sure it doesn't surprise Cameron.
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Speaker 8: In Albanus, You've got the Peter principle as a case study.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, he was at his high point
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Speaker 8: when he was manager of Opposition Business and everything beyond
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Speaker 8: that is just him rising to his level of incompetence
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Speaker 8: and we're seeing it all over the board. But the
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Speaker 8: rud rules ensure that he will survive. I don't begrudge him,
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Speaker 8: you know, being a hard left person enjoying the fruits
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Speaker 8: of capitalism. Perhaps he should support it a bit more
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Speaker 8: and stop some of this intervention as industry policy, but
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Speaker 8: the reality is that it's not going to change much
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Speaker 8: and labor will continue with him.
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Speaker 2: Look, I agree that everything and also the timing. I
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Speaker 2: think Cameron a bit too close to the polls for
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Speaker 2: a leadership change to happen because one there's no declared challenger,
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Speaker 2: there's no labor and peace haven't turned their mind to
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Speaker 2: whether he's hopeless. So I think that's it's all for
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Speaker 2: the point. But his authority is gone.
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Speaker 9: But voters have, Andrew, Voters are making up their mind
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Speaker 9: about Albanez. They see him buying a four point three
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Speaker 9: million dollar retirement home, retirement home because he's already checked out.
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Speaker 9: He's already planning the next stage in his life after
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Speaker 9: being Prime Minister and being voted out. The thing that
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Speaker 9: interests me, Andrew, is what was the rush because he
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Speaker 9: was very curious about negative gearing, no change negative no
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Speaker 9: gearing changes like negative gearing.
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Speaker 2: But imagine if they're negative gearing.
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Speaker 9: Changes after this, after he's made this four point three
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Speaker 9: million dollar investment, because he gets to write ninety thousand
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Speaker 9: dollars a year off against negative gearing currently that'll be grandfathered.
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Speaker 2: That'll be grandfathered.
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Speaker 9: So this could be the worst case of insider trading
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Speaker 9: inside of trading if the PM changes negative gearing rules after.
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Speaker 2: He's made this huge investment. Andrew, that's interesting. But really, meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: of course, Michael, the rolling disaster, the government that zero
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Speaker 2: global warming schemes keeps rolling on. I mean, these are
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Speaker 2: schemes that drive up power prices, which in turn to
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Speaker 2: drive up the prices so much that's made with electricity,
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Speaker 2: which is one reason people can't by their own homes
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Speaker 2: like Albanize once could. Seven months ago, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: and Njiny Minister Chris Bones went to the Hunter Valley
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Speaker 2: to make a huge announcement. They're going to spend a
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Speaker 2: billion dollars taxpace money to help companies here make austrand
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Speaker 2: solar panels, even though China makes so much cheaper. And
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Speaker 2: they said Sydney's sun Drive company was going to get
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Speaker 2: some of that here.
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Speaker 6: They go have a future made right here in Australia.
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Speaker 6: And that's what the billion dollar SunShot program is about.
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Speaker 5: We welcome sun Drive making the most efficient solar panel
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Speaker 5: in the world here on this site.
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Speaker 2: But now we learned that this Sundrave company is peered
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Speaker 2: up with a Chinese manufacturer to claim that taxpayer grant
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Speaker 2: for alban Easy to make the panels here. Is that
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Speaker 2: a national interest when this Sundrave company is now almost
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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty with a Chinese company.
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Speaker 8: Oh, this is absurd and it's the same as every
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Speaker 8: other green project this bloke has touched. You know, when
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Speaker 8: we saw the wind farm on the South coast collapse,
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Speaker 8: you know, EV policies collapsing, and the list goes on
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Speaker 8: and on. I mean, I said that Alban's was a
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Speaker 8: case study for the Peter principle. This bloke's a case
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Speaker 8: study for the reverse mitas touch. Everything he touches turns
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Speaker 8: to you know what, and look, we're lucky that he's
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Speaker 8: not supporting nuclear energy, or else we'd lose that as well.
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Speaker 8: I mean, the bloke is hopeless. He has always been
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Speaker 8: that way. And of course this means that the policy
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Speaker 8: of the government is touting as its main economic driver
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Speaker 8: is now future made in China. And I can see
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Speaker 8: the opposition running around talking about future made in China.
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Speaker 8: It just makes a mockery of the whole system. And
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Speaker 8: remember Bowen, you know, he's so desperate to be regarded
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Speaker 8: as a great policy maker. He wrote a book about
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Speaker 8: the great treasurers and said that Swan was a better
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Speaker 8: treasurer than Costello and included himself in there as well,
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Speaker 8: by the way, and he was only there for two minutes,
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Speaker 8: so you know, the hubris is incredible with this bloke,
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Speaker 8: and anybody has watched these careers not surprised.
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Speaker 2: But what do you make of this, Cameron? I mean,
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Speaker 2: for one, it staggers me that there's not internal labor
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Speaker 2: pushback to what boone is doing, a recognition that is
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Speaker 2: driving them over a cliff with these schemes.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think we've got to back renewables and the
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Speaker 9: issue is are we picking winners? You know, are we
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Speaker 9: actually opening up a scheme where weeare? It's sort of
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Speaker 9: the future made for mates, Andrew. That's what worries me
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Speaker 9: the most about these huge amounts of money they're being
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Speaker 9: thrown around to select companies who are clearly haven't got
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Speaker 9: the business case or the proper backing to deliver.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'd be upset Cameron if of a grant made
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Speaker 2: in Australia goes to a company that's forty nine percent Chinese.
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Speaker 2: I mean seriously, I mean I wouldn't give much I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't give much chance to that technology that they're using,
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Speaker 2: austrand technology staying in Australia after that, either no, the
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Speaker 2: IP will go to China and they'll be made in China.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Andrew. Well, Michael, what do you do
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Speaker 2: about it? I mean, you know, this is another scheme
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Speaker 2: that's going barely up in my view, a bit like
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Speaker 2: and we're still yet to hear about his hydrogen hub
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Speaker 2: in Port Augusta and the grant that he gave to
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Speaker 2: the smelter there to go green. That's not going to happen.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what is the government's option with this with Bowen?
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Speaker 8: With Chris Bowen, well, he's absolutely hopeless. But they're going
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Speaker 8: to have to bluff their way through to the next election.
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Speaker 8: And you know, I think that's a government across the
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Speaker 8: board in a range of policies I are and you
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Speaker 8: know the list goes on immigration. This is a government
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Speaker 8: that's going to have to bluff its way to the
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Speaker 8: next election. But you can guarantee, as I said, if
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Speaker 8: Chris Bowen's involved, it's it's doomed to fail. And that's
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Speaker 8: been his record all along. Unfortunately for this government, they've
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Speaker 8: got no ALTI. They're in a sense policy a straight jacket.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 8: They're tied into renewables, they're tied into this process with
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Speaker 8: future made in Australia, future made in China, and they're
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Speaker 8: going to have to wear it right to the election.
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Speaker 8: And nobody believes they can succeed.
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Speaker 2: Michael Cosa, Karin and Milner, thank you very much to
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Speaker 2: you both. It's a news watch. You know, there is
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Speaker 2: absolutely no mystery to me that trust in the media
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Speaker 2: is now rock bottom. You just look just for one,
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Speaker 2: the mainstream media is coverage of Donald Trump. Now Trump,
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Speaker 2: I'll give you just the latest example. Right, Trump has said,
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Speaker 2: look at these illegal immigrants. The Vice President Kamala Harris
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Speaker 2: is leading as the board it's are and President Joe
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Speaker 2: Budden some Venezuelan games, he pointed out, had taken over
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Speaker 2: a whole housing complexes by armed force, and then you know,
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Speaker 2: let other people in and made them a pay rent
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Speaker 2: to them. You look now at how one host of
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Speaker 2: America's ABC try to attack Trump's running mate jd Vance
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Speaker 2: for daring for Trump, daring to make this scandal a
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Speaker 2: big deal.
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Speaker 1: People are terrified by what has happened with some of
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Speaker 1: these Venezuelan gangs.
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Speaker 10: Center Advance.
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Speaker 11: I'm going to stop you because I know exactly what happened.
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Speaker 10: I'm going to stop you.
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Speaker 3: The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment CONFLICTX
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Speaker 3: apartment complexes.
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Speaker 5: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself.
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Speaker 1: Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken
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Speaker 1: over by Venezuelan gangs, and Donald Trump is the problem
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Speaker 1: and not Kamala Harris's open.
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Speaker 2: Border unbelievable by the way, jd Vance, He is going places,
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Speaker 2: but only a few apartment Why does Trump making a
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Speaker 2: fuss about Well? How about these headlines now on stories
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Speaker 2: today about Trump's latest rally. Will he played some songs?
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Speaker 2: You know that's oh? Look but Trump appears lost, confused,
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Speaker 2: and frozen on stage as multiple songs play for thirty
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Speaker 2: plus minutes. Or Trump's bizarre music session read us questions
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Speaker 2: about his mental acuity, and you know what happened? What
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Speaker 2: actually happened. Trump stopped talking when two people had medical
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Speaker 2: emergencies in the audience and were treated in front of them.
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Speaker 2: Stop speaking out of respect.
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Speaker 5: A doctor, plus doctor, thank you very much.
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Speaker 11: The chief, he was great, and if they could play
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Speaker 11: Ave Maria, if you can get it, justin, let's go
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Speaker 11: if you can.
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Speaker 2: And then the crowd had such a good time that
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Speaker 2: he thought he first asked them, shall we play more?
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Speaker 2: Shall we play more?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, then let's play some more music.
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Speaker 11: And those two people that went down are patriots and
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Speaker 11: we love them and because of them, we ended up
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Speaker 11: with some good music, right right, So play YMC, go ahead,
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Speaker 11: let's go, Nae Loud.
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Speaker 12: I felt like I was sitting in a room with him,
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Speaker 12: just him. I could have I could have been here
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Speaker 12: another hour, another two hours. It was this great spending
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Speaker 12: time with the president.
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Speaker 2: The crowd loved it all. Okay, Trump totally in charge.
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Speaker 2: But that's what Kamala Harris herself in a tweet and
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Speaker 2: her team and the media sold people as proof that
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Speaker 2: Trump was actually going gaga losing it. And the media
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Speaker 2: wonders why so many people now don't trust a word
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Speaker 2: they publish. Joining me on news, watch you, Sophie Els
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Speaker 2: with media writer for the Australian newspaper, Sophie, You've got
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Speaker 2: some local news for you that I want to catch
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Speaker 2: up on. But just quickly. The coverage of Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: so often seems like organized lying by the media. Now
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Speaker 2: why would that be?
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Speaker 13: Well, I think in America a lot of the media
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Speaker 13: Andrew is left leaning, and let's be frank here, they
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Speaker 13: do not want to see Donald Trump win the upcoming
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Speaker 13: presidential election, so they are going to do what they
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Speaker 13: can to try and make him look like an idiot.
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Speaker 10: And there's just many examples that you just gave. Now.
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Speaker 13: Look, I don't really like his dancing style, Andrew, but
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Speaker 13: Americans are not silly and they can see through this.
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Speaker 10: And also the attack.
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Speaker 13: On jd Vance there by that ABC host was just extraordinary.
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Speaker 13: She did not put herself in a good light there
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Speaker 13: at all, Andrew. So I thought she did her credibility
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Speaker 13: some serious harm there. But we will see more of this,
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Speaker 13: particularly because there are many undecided voters and the election
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Speaker 13: is getting closer and closer.
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Speaker 2: Look, honestly, if there are still people who believe in
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Speaker 2: the year stories today some prisident Australian newspapers to her
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Speaker 2: shame that Trump wasn't totally in control and actually given
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Speaker 2: the crowd exactly what they wanted it with a confidence
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Speaker 2: that Kamba Harris could never ever have ever listened to this.
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Speaker 2: There he is asking them what do you want?
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Speaker 10: Nobody is leaving?
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Speaker 2: What's going on? There's nobody leaving? Keep going? We keep going?
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Speaker 2: Should we keep going?
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Speaker 10: I turned that music up? Turn it up?
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Speaker 2: So that's the guy the the media is trying to
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Speaker 2: tell you and lost it on stage. Look confused our
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Speaker 2: timers or whatever now to home, Sophie. Channel nine, You've
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Speaker 2: covered this before, has been hit by multiple claims of
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Speaker 2: sexual harassment in the newsroom and allegedly both senior executives.
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Speaker 2: It promised to investigate. It's done a report. What can
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Speaker 2: you tell us about it?
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Speaker 13: So tonight it was revealed by nine that the staff
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Speaker 13: tomorrow at nine and also ex employees that submitted their
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Speaker 13: grievances to this external independent review will have it published
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Speaker 13: and there'll be staff meetings afterwards to address the issues.
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Speaker 10: That come from this report. This is expected to.
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Speaker 13: Be an extremely damning report, Andrew Now Mike sneeze Be,
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Speaker 13: the former CEO, called for this independent review to be
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Speaker 13: done on the back of news boss Darren Wick leaving
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Speaker 13: the company after there were allegations made against him.
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Speaker 10: Both those men have gone.
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Speaker 13: Victoria Buckan the head of communications. She tomorrow will be
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Speaker 13: handling a lot of the media inquiries, but she too
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Speaker 13: is going.
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Speaker 10: She's leaving next month.
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Speaker 13: We saw Peter Costello leave in disgrace in June.
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Speaker 10: This is a company with a falling.
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Speaker 13: Share price, trouble everywhere, and they are going to have
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Speaker 13: a lot of counseling and support provided to staff tomorrow.
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Speaker 13: Andrew and for days after following the handing down of
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Speaker 13: this review.
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Speaker 2: I should point out that Peter Costello was not incused
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Speaker 2: of any of these things. He pushed over a reporter
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Speaker 2: of the airport. But and you know some of these
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Speaker 2: the guys that have denied anything. But still it's amazing, Sophie.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just love you know how journists love
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Speaker 2: pontificating about oh terrible behavior, both such and so oh terrible.
21:11
Speaker 2: The Moral Guard is a society, and you put a
21:14
Speaker 2: little mirror in front of their own newsroom and you
21:16
Speaker 2: get this. I mean, this has just been so damaging
21:19
Speaker 2: for Channel nine, hasn't it.
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Speaker 10: It absolutely has, Andrew.
21:24
Speaker 13: I mean, they are one of the biggest commercial broadcasters
21:27
Speaker 13: in this country and they have absolutely had so many
21:32
Speaker 13: months of bad headlines. When we first broke this story
21:36
Speaker 13: about the allegations leveled against Darren Wick, he said he
21:40
Speaker 13: decided his time was up at nine, But we revealed
21:43
Speaker 13: that actually, in fact, there was a complaint against him
21:46
Speaker 13: and he was given a package and showing the door.
21:49
Speaker 13: So this is one mess to another, and there's a
21:52
Speaker 13: long way to go on this, Andrew.
21:53
Speaker 10: Because they're going to, I suspect.
21:55
Speaker 13: Have to implement quite a lot of changes, cultural changes
21:59
Speaker 13: inside the organization, because there's a lot of people in
22:02
Speaker 13: there very unhappy about how the place has been run
22:05
Speaker 13: and the treatment, including claims of sexual harassment and bullying,
22:10
Speaker 13: including by seeing your staff.
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Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait till you read your report tomorrow
22:16
Speaker 2: about it Channel ten. I have to say, Sophie, I mean, look,
22:20
Speaker 2: we all make mistakes, literals, whatever. I mean, goodness, gracious,
22:26
Speaker 2: if only we were all perfect. But honestly, Channel nine
22:29
Speaker 2: should really be embarrassed today. We learned yesterday the death
22:32
Speaker 2: of George Nigas of sixty Minutes of Fame. He also
22:35
Speaker 2: worked at Channel ten while I was there fronting his
22:37
Speaker 2: own show, But ten so in a social media post
22:42
Speaker 2: couldn't even spell his name right, got it wrong twice.
22:47
Speaker 2: That's not good.
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Speaker 10: That's right, Andrew. Look it's Channel ten.
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Speaker 13: Look, we all make mistakes. You know, we've got to
22:55
Speaker 13: admit not everyone is perfect. But it's pretty bad, especially
22:58
Speaker 13: given the circumstance. He was a hero of the media,
23:03
Speaker 13: you know, an incredible career.
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Speaker 10: They've got to get things by this right.
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Speaker 13: But it also shows, Andrew, there's less people checking this stuff,
23:10
Speaker 13: and unfortunately media outlets these mistakes are getting through.
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Speaker 2: Fewer people indeed checking this stuff as so Fie els
23:20
Speaker 2: with thank you for your time. After the break, the
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Speaker 2: Albanizing government says our foreign policy should be original. What
23:29
Speaker 2: on earth does that mean? We'll get back to our
23:35
Speaker 2: original foreign policy later, But first, this photo today, This
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Speaker 2: photo today really got me. It shows laboring p Su Lines.
23:46
Speaker 2: She's the president of our Senate, grinning madly like a
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Speaker 2: too eager to please dupe, meeting the grim Joo Legie,
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Speaker 2: the third most senior Chinese leader. He doesn't feel need
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Speaker 2: to ingratiate himself at all. He in fact used their
24:04
Speaker 2: meeting to remind Sue Lines that the Albanzi government, yes,
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Speaker 2: it's been doing good jobs sucking up to China after
24:12
Speaker 2: all the frightful bullying that China has subjected us to.
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Speaker 2: But he reminded us to keep treating China with more respect.
24:22
Speaker 2: And I think this photo says at all about the
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Speaker 2: Albanese government. Puppy dog springs to mind. Now. I mentioned
24:31
Speaker 2: this photo because I do worry about the naivety of
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Speaker 2: this government that too eager to please. This position, it
24:40
Speaker 2: seems to me it hasn't quite sunk in that World
24:44
Speaker 2: War III has in fact started. It was started, of
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Speaker 2: course by Russia, the war in Ukraine, then followed up
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Speaker 2: by Iran, It's terrorist armies starting the war against Israel,
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Speaker 2: all of them back by Chin, North Korea. Of course.
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Speaker 2: I mean that's the axis of evil here, Russia, China, Iran,
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Speaker 2: North Korea, all working together, all autocracies, all enemies of democracies,
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Speaker 2: all trying to establish what China calls a new world order.
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Speaker 2: Now you now see Russia supplying Iran or supplied with
25:21
Speaker 2: Iranian and North Korean weapons to use in its war
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Speaker 2: against Ukraine. You even hear now reports of North Korean
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Speaker 2: soldiers being sent to fight in Ukraine or to help Russia.
25:35
Speaker 2: China meanwhile swearing an alliance with Russia, also sending Russia
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Speaker 2: help for its war, and meanwhile planning the next invasion
25:44
Speaker 2: of this world war. So Ukraine, Israel, now Taiwan, the
25:51
Speaker 2: democracy of the communists, China says it should control this
25:55
Speaker 2: week in this front, there was a very dangerous as
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Speaker 2: Galatian China practiced a full blockade of Taiwan, sending twenty
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Speaker 2: six ships and a record one hundred and fifty three
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Speaker 2: military one hundred and seventy three. I think it was
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Speaker 2: military aircraft, many of them crossing into Taiwan's air craft
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Speaker 2: identification airspace. The dots on this map represent Chinese naval
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Speaker 2: and Coastguard ships that were sent joining me from Taiwan's capital, Taipei.
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Speaker 2: Is Sky News's Asia correspondent Stash Butler. Stash, great to
26:31
Speaker 2: see you. You've been reporting on this. Sending all those
26:34
Speaker 2: ships and one hundred and fifty three plants is around Taiwan,
26:38
Speaker 2: in which China said was indeed to practice a blockade.
26:41
Speaker 2: Why is such a show of strength right now?
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Speaker 7: Well, andrew the immediate trigger that China, you know, justified this.
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Speaker 7: This exercise on was a speech given by Taiwan's president
26:56
Speaker 7: last week at National Day celebrations here in Taiwan, during
27:00
Speaker 7: which he said that the Republic of the People's Republic
27:03
Speaker 7: of China, that is, authorities in Beijing have no right
27:06
Speaker 7: to represent people of Taiwan. Now. China takes issue with
27:13
Speaker 7: any statement that suggests that Taiwan and Chinese mainland are
27:16
Speaker 7: not part of one. China views Lai Chingda, Taiwan's president,
27:21
Speaker 7: as a dangerous separatist, live for his part, maintains the
27:26
Speaker 7: position largely followed by his successor that Taiwan, under its
27:30
Speaker 7: official name, the Republic of China is already a sovereign
27:34
Speaker 7: state with its own currency, its own military, its own government,
27:37
Speaker 7: with no need to declare independence. That was the immediate
27:41
Speaker 7: grounds that China gave for this exercise. But I think
27:44
Speaker 7: there's also some political signaling here as well. We have,
27:48
Speaker 7: obviously the US election coming up in a few weeks.
27:51
Speaker 7: Beijing keen to perhaps suggests to whoever does take over
27:55
Speaker 7: the White House that it does still regard Taiwan as
27:58
Speaker 7: a key and the China internal matter a key, you know,
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Speaker 7: real point of difficulty in the US China relationship that
28:07
Speaker 7: whoever comes into the White House is going to have
28:09
Speaker 7: to find a way find some common ground with China over.
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Speaker 2: And of course that's I mean right now America is
28:17
Speaker 2: in a terribly politically weakened position. So I think there
28:21
Speaker 2: might be some exploitation of that. Now you're clearly seeing
28:26
Speaker 2: the outlines of the next you know, if there is
28:29
Speaker 2: a war, and Jijiping is saying, as told as military
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Speaker 2: to prepare for one if there is, this is the
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Speaker 2: shape of it, right, a blockade of the arm just
28:38
Speaker 2: starve it out or whatever. How worried is Taiwan.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think people here on the whole aren't deeply
28:48
Speaker 7: concerned by the prospect of a Chinese attack on Taiwan,
28:52
Speaker 7: although there is you know, a segment of the population
28:54
Speaker 7: that does believe that China would never attack people in
28:59
Speaker 7: Taiwan who use or you know, whose people have used
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Speaker 7: as compatriots. I mean that said, people here have been
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Speaker 7: living under the threat of some kind of an attack
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Speaker 7: for several decades now. So you know, there was no
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Speaker 7: panic buying in supermarkets here. It was a normal day,
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Speaker 7: the work in school. You know, there was no crash
29:21
Speaker 7: in the stock market or anything like that. I mean,
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Speaker 7: life did for all. Most people here really go on
29:28
Speaker 7: like normal. But that is not to say that you know,
29:30
Speaker 7: people here aren't worried. It's just that living for so
29:34
Speaker 7: long under that kind of a threat, you've got to
29:36
Speaker 7: find a way of getting by.
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Speaker 2: And no one expects of war really until it comes,
29:41
Speaker 2: not they don't really believe it can be true. How
29:44
Speaker 2: prepared is Taiwan for war if it does come.
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean I think that's that's the million
29:51
Speaker 7: dollar question. I mean, you're going to get a lot
29:53
Speaker 7: of different answers. I mean, we know Taiwan over the
29:56
Speaker 7: past few months, has been a few years, I should say,
30:00
Speaker 7: has been moving towards a strategy called the Porcupine strategy, essentially,
30:04
Speaker 7: you know, trying to make itself extremely make it very painful,
30:09
Speaker 7: very costly to attack Taiwan by buying lots of cheap,
30:12
Speaker 7: small movable weapons that wouldn't be very easily destroyed in
30:15
Speaker 7: the first wave of a Chinese assault and could pick
30:18
Speaker 7: off larger and more expensive Chinese weaponry. But I think
30:23
Speaker 7: most of the analysts you'll ask about whether the Taiwan
30:25
Speaker 7: has done that successfully would say there's still some way
30:28
Speaker 7: to go on that strategy. Now. I think there is
30:30
Speaker 7: also you know, some some known unknowns to the extent
30:35
Speaker 7: that we don't really know up until at the moment
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Speaker 7: that it does happen, if it does happen at all,
30:41
Speaker 7: how the Taiwanese people would react to an attack. Would
30:45
Speaker 7: there be you know, a widespread kind of popular resistance
30:50
Speaker 7: to incoming forces, or would there be a capitulation. That's
30:53
Speaker 7: something you can, you know, conduct poles on, but to
30:56
Speaker 7: a large extent, it's something that really is decided in
30:59
Speaker 7: the moment, and it can't be really known beforehand. And
31:03
Speaker 7: also there's an extent to which you know, to the
31:06
Speaker 7: great extent that Taiwan can prepare for an attack. It's
31:10
Speaker 7: also going to be dependent on outcoming forces because on
31:12
Speaker 7: outside forces, because you know, Taiwan's defense budget is ten
31:17
Speaker 7: times small, eleven times smaller than than China's, so it's
31:21
Speaker 7: going to need some kind of military intervention to stop
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Speaker 7: an incoming So I really think the West Taiwan's exhausted.
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Speaker 2: The West is already exhausted in over Ukraine. It's giving
31:36
Speaker 2: up on Israel. I don't know. This is all shaping
31:40
Speaker 2: up very, very ominously. But you've been doing a great
31:44
Speaker 2: job from reporting from Taiwan. Thank you so much. After
31:47
Speaker 2: the break, Penny Wan, the foreign minister gets hickled by
31:51
Speaker 2: pro penising and extremers. So where's the thanks for her
31:55
Speaker 2: selling out Israel? Does he have started with only one
32:01
Speaker 2: liberal government in the whole country? Can you be live
32:03
Speaker 2: in Tasmania? But there's now also a country Liberal Party
32:08
Speaker 2: government in the northern territory and a Saturday week there
32:10
Speaker 2: will be a Liberal National Party one in Queensland. Early
32:14
Speaker 2: voting have started in Queensland, an exit pole of mainly
32:17
Speaker 2: rural seats. Admittedly by the Courier Mail shows a huge
32:21
Speaker 2: swing against Slavery nearly ten percent, and a one percent
32:24
Speaker 2: swing against the Greens. Join me in Daniel Wild, deputy
32:27
Speaker 2: executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs, and Garth Hamilton,
32:30
Speaker 2: a federal Liberal MP from Queensland. So I guess I
32:34
Speaker 2: should start with you, Garth, what does this exit pole
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Speaker 2: tell you?
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Speaker 14: It's very similar to what I was hearing out on
32:40
Speaker 14: the birds today. I've been at pre poll every day
32:43
Speaker 14: so far and there's been a very very strong support
32:46
Speaker 14: coming out for the LMP. I think people are very
32:50
Speaker 14: very clearly wanted to see a change of government. They're
32:53
Speaker 14: ready for it. I had one lady come out. She
32:56
Speaker 14: came across me very quietly, having recognized me, and wanted
32:59
Speaker 14: to tell me I've never voted LMP before, but I
33:02
Speaker 14: will this time. I think that's the feeling this out there.
33:06
Speaker 14: There's people who are long term labor supporters who are
33:08
Speaker 14: seeing this government, who know that they've come to the
33:11
Speaker 14: end of their time and just simply want change.
33:15
Speaker 2: Did Gneth Hamilton hit it there, Daniel that this is
33:19
Speaker 2: really it's not an angry electorate, it's just a fed
33:22
Speaker 2: up nine years is enough? Too much or are there
33:25
Speaker 2: some issues that take away from what's going on here?
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Speaker 15: Well, I think guards one hundred percent right. If I
33:32
Speaker 15: was going to pick one issue, Andrew, particularly in regional areas,
33:35
Speaker 15: it'll be the policy of net zero. I remember talking
33:37
Speaker 15: to you from man Isa a few weeks ago, and
33:40
Speaker 15: it's a loss of jobs from the decommissioning of the
33:43
Speaker 15: baseload power supplies to higher energy costs and the jobs
33:46
Speaker 15: that go with that. So that's the issue number one.
33:49
Speaker 15: What I will say Andrew is obviously the L and
33:51
Speaker 15: P has had a very small target strategy that may
33:54
Speaker 15: be tactically smart. It's going to get them into government.
33:56
Speaker 15: And obviously first step is to get into government. So
33:59
Speaker 15: I understand that. But David christ of Folly is going
34:01
Speaker 15: to have to draw on the deep reservoirs of his
34:04
Speaker 15: leadership capabilities when he is premier to give Queensland a
34:08
Speaker 15: vision about its future. Because what can happen, Andrew if
34:11
Speaker 15: you have a small target strategy then you get into
34:13
Speaker 15: government is you find yourself in government, you then go
34:15
Speaker 15: and do something and the electric says no, hang on,
34:18
Speaker 15: you didn't tell me you were going to do that,
34:19
Speaker 15: or you do nothing and you have a status quo government,
34:22
Speaker 15: and the electric says, hey, you said you're going to
34:24
Speaker 15: fix the state. So what the L and P will
34:27
Speaker 15: need to do very quickly is to tell Queenslanders what
34:30
Speaker 15: it is that they're going to do to improve their state.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, whether you can get a man work up
34:36
Speaker 2: a mandate in one week of politicking, I'm not so sure,
34:40
Speaker 2: but yeah, you're absolutely correct. Gathur from Mincipitti Wang has
34:45
Speaker 2: designed the policy and Palestine it's much more anti Israel.
34:48
Speaker 2: As we've discussed so many times. It's ended up pleasing
34:52
Speaker 2: almost nobody, though she was heckled and interrupted about ten
34:55
Speaker 2: times by pro palacing activists in the University of Tasmania
35:01
Speaker 2: when she how about university which you tried to give
35:04
Speaker 2: a speech last night, issues.
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Speaker 3: And twenty twenty four is on track to be even
35:12
Speaker 3: worse because at our best we have a reputation.
35:28
Speaker 2: Now you there are two things issues here for me Garth.
35:37
Speaker 2: One is ways of that propoality and activists are such bullies.
35:40
Speaker 2: They act like such savages, so intolerant. What does it
35:44
Speaker 2: say about their movement? But also you know here is
35:48
Speaker 2: Penny Wong. She's designed a policy that's made the government
35:51
Speaker 2: look terrible, betrayed our ally, and she still gets no
35:54
Speaker 2: thanks for it.
35:56
Speaker 14: Well, look, it's interesting when you go woke. It's a pathway.
36:00
Speaker 14: It is infinite, there is no end to it. You
36:02
Speaker 14: start down that pathway and the rainbow keeps moving. It's
36:06
Speaker 14: always the horizon keeps moving further, Andrew. So it's like
36:10
Speaker 14: when you hear a sporting team so they've hit rock
36:12
Speaker 14: bottom and the next season they do even worse. When
36:15
Speaker 14: you go woke, things get worse and worse because you
36:17
Speaker 14: find yourself further and further away from the center of
36:21
Speaker 14: Australia from that centrist view. And I think that's where
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Speaker 14: Penny Wong finds herself now, having as you really clearly
36:28
Speaker 14: pointed out, she's not just taking a view that is
36:32
Speaker 14: trying to find a peaceful solution. It's an anti Israel
36:35
Speaker 14: view that she's positioning herself in at the moment, and
36:38
Speaker 14: that is well away from the mainstream. As the behavior
36:41
Speaker 14: of these, particularly the anti Israel protests that we've seen,
36:46
Speaker 14: the intimidation is what gets me, Andrew. I remember when
36:49
Speaker 14: a couple of protesters decided to sit themselves on the
36:53
Speaker 14: top of Parliament House there and stop people from coming
36:56
Speaker 14: in and really try and let everyone know with their
36:59
Speaker 14: views were there was no tolerance here. They weren't there
37:01
Speaker 14: seeking a better outcome. They were trying to intimidate people
37:05
Speaker 14: with the show of force, and we've seen that in
37:06
Speaker 14: demonstrations around Australia. This isn't going to draw people to them,
37:10
Speaker 14: and I actually think it's going to play out very
37:12
Speaker 14: very badly from Middle Australia who don't want to see
37:16
Speaker 14: this imported activism, this important hate on our streets.
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Speaker 2: I think they're illustrating. They're barbarians fighting on the side
37:26
Speaker 2: of barbarians. And you know, it's no surprise to me
37:30
Speaker 2: they're this way. By the way, I see behind you
37:32
Speaker 2: the portrait of Robert Menzi's I see you're celebrating the
37:36
Speaker 2: eightieth anniversary of the creation of the Liberal Party. Good
37:40
Speaker 2: on you. What do you make of Penny Wong getting
37:43
Speaker 2: what I think are just desserts? Daniel, Yeah, Well.
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Speaker 15: As Garth was suggesting, the left always eat their own,
37:50
Speaker 15: don't they. And this is what happens when you try
37:52
Speaker 15: to appease activists. You know, I think there's a much
37:56
Speaker 15: bigger issue playing out. I know your previous guest, Andrew,
37:58
Speaker 15: you were talking about China and Taiwan. I mean, this
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Speaker 15: issue with Israel is a civilizational conflict. It's a civilizational
38:05
Speaker 15: level struggle that we're in. We may see that again
38:08
Speaker 15: with China and Taiwan. We can see what's happening on
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Speaker 15: continental Europe, in the UK, across North America. Israel is
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Speaker 15: one of the cradles of the Judaeo Christian moral ethic
38:18
Speaker 15: and world view that is the foundation of our great
38:20
Speaker 15: nation and Western nations around the world. And at the
38:24
Speaker 15: center of that is the dignity and equality of all individuals.
38:28
Speaker 15: And we see that in day to day with the
38:29
Speaker 15: rule of law and equality before the law, and your
38:31
Speaker 15: right to go work and start your own business and
38:33
Speaker 15: get ahead. That's all based on the Judeo Christian ethics.
38:36
Speaker 15: So you know what I would encourage our political leaders
38:39
Speaker 15: is look beyond the politics and the next election and
38:43
Speaker 15: you have an understanding that this is really a much
38:46
Speaker 15: bigger civilizational level cultural struggle that we are within.
38:50
Speaker 5: And I just wonder, you.
38:51
Speaker 15: Know, those who oppose Israel are often those who are
38:54
Speaker 15: most launchly opposed to the values of our nation and
38:57
Speaker 15: of Western civilization more generally.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly why I try to put it in
39:03
Speaker 2: the context repeatedly, there is a world war. There are
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Speaker 2: in fact three fronts of this war, Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan.
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Speaker 2: And when you see it like that, because it is
39:13
Speaker 2: how you should see it, you realize what is at
39:16
Speaker 2: stake is exactly what you say. It's a fight for civilization.
39:19
Speaker 2: It's not just an isolated issue here that you've got
39:23
Speaker 2: four tyrannies on the march. Garth Hamilton, Daniel Wilde. Thank
39:26
Speaker 2: you very much to you both. After the break, Like
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Speaker 2: I said before, the Albanizi government says our foreign policy
39:34
Speaker 2: should be aboriginal, and I'm going to ask for Randine
39:37
Speaker 2: what he thinks that means, because I don't know either.
39:45
Speaker 2: Just want to go back to that photo that really
39:47
Speaker 2: gives me the pip of the Senate President Siue lines
39:51
Speaker 2: grin like a banshee, like, oh yeah, how exciting to
39:56
Speaker 2: be with the number three man in China dictatorship, the
40:01
Speaker 2: one that's practicing war against Taiwan while she's there like, oh,
40:05
Speaker 2: isn't this wonderful? Sue Lynes. Of course, the Socialist Left
40:11
Speaker 2: really a backer of Penny Wong's ridiculous diplomacy, and she
40:15
Speaker 2: gave around ten speeches before becoming president about the only
40:20
Speaker 2: topic she really spoke on Israel and Palistine Nice Palestine.
40:26
Speaker 2: This is a sign of the intellectual drift of this
40:31
Speaker 2: terrible government. But on with the Show a year ago
40:36
Speaker 2: Australia voted no to the Voice another terrible Albanezy government
40:40
Speaker 2: idea Labour's plan for a kind of average learning advisory Parliament.
40:43
Speaker 2: But the government still has an ambassador just for Aborigines,
40:48
Speaker 2: an ambassador for First Nations people who's now helping the
40:52
Speaker 2: Department of Foreign Affairs organized meetings with aboriginies to work on
40:55
Speaker 2: and I quote the development of a strategy to embed
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Speaker 2: first nation's approaches to foreign policy. Join me, is Rowan, Dean,
41:06
Speaker 2: editor in chief The Spectator Australia and host of Outsiders
41:08
Speaker 2: the Sky News every Sunday at nine am. Roan, can
41:13
Speaker 2: you please tell me what First nation approaches to foreign
41:19
Speaker 2: policy are? Because I didn't know that Aboriginal tribes before
41:25
Speaker 2: colonization actually had a foreign policy but clearly I'm ill informed.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure there must be somewhere other a book
41:35
Speaker 5: by if not Bruce Pasco, someone of the similar persuasion
41:39
Speaker 5: detailing the embassies that dotted the various first nations around
41:44
Speaker 5: this glorious continent of ours. And you can imagine that
41:48
Speaker 5: the descriptions of the ambassadorial you know, digs and all
41:53
Speaker 5: the beautiful banquets and so on. But on a serious note,
41:56
Speaker 5: the role of the ambassador is to represent the entire name.
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Speaker 5: That's it, full stop. That's what an ambassador does. It's
42:02
Speaker 5: the personification of the nation. That's why I have things
42:05
Speaker 5: like diplomatic community and so on, because you're not there
42:07
Speaker 5: as an individual. You're not even representing a group of people.
42:11
Speaker 5: You are the representation of the diplomatic interests of that nation,
42:17
Speaker 5: military interests, trade interests, defense interests, security interests, and so on.
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Speaker 5: And that's it. That's your role. So to suddenly put
42:24
Speaker 5: a first nation's ambassador wandering around the country, this bloke's
42:28
Speaker 5: got three hundred and fifty grand to go and presumably
42:31
Speaker 5: get up the point end of the plan and traveled
42:33
Speaker 5: to all sorts of other first nations around the world.
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Speaker 5: We are handing out, or what the Almanezi government is
42:40
Speaker 5: is literally handing our sovereignty away for the simple reason
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Speaker 5: that this bloke, unless it's purely ceremonial, which it isn't
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Speaker 5: you know, waving gum leaves around and smoking ceremonies and
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Speaker 5: so on. But this bloke must have some kind of
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Speaker 5: authority as an ambassador. That means he can enter directly
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Speaker 5: into negotiations and treaties more importantly, with other First Nations
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Speaker 5: groups around the world. So, for example, and this is
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Speaker 5: a speculation, obviously, hypothetically he could say, well to the
43:12
Speaker 5: First Nations people of Peru, you can come to Australia
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Speaker 5: and you have access to Ularu where the Australian people
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Speaker 5: don't have access to Ularu. Or hypothetically, as the First
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Speaker 5: Nation's ambassador, I allow you to come here and go
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Speaker 5: to these areas, these beaches and so on which belong
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Speaker 5: to us under Native title, which non Indigenous Australians are
43:35
Speaker 5: not allowed to go on to, and you have the
43:38
Speaker 5: right to come here. You could even have the First
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Speaker 5: Nation's ambassador theoretically offering for people to come from other
43:45
Speaker 5: First Nations and automatically have citizenship if he deemed that
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Speaker 5: to be the case, because that is what an ambassador
43:51
Speaker 5: has the power to represent the entire nation. So we
43:55
Speaker 5: are literally throwing away sovereignty like this. We have seen
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Speaker 5: in the past how treaty had been used United Nations treaties,
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Speaker 5: human rights treaties, you know, environmental treaties, all sorts of
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Speaker 5: treaties become law for the simple reason that the High
44:12
Speaker 5: Court judges will say, well, it may not be the
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Speaker 5: law of the land, but we've signed this treaty. Therefore
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Speaker 5: we are obliged to follow the terms of the treaty.
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Speaker 5: So this first Nation's ambassak and basically as an ambassador
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Speaker 5: sign whatever treaties he feels like on behalf of the
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Speaker 5: first Nations of Australia. True, where does that live?
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's going to have that power. But theoretically
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Speaker 2: sure he might have that power. But the point is
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Speaker 2: here Rowan, that what we need clarification on is what
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Speaker 2: you're touching on. Right, Are we talking about here Australia's
44:45
Speaker 2: foreign policy somehow being aboriginal when it's only three percent
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Speaker 2: of population, which doesn't sound that sounds really weird. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what way this assumption that average is also different, that
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Speaker 2: that's got to be I don't know. Or is it
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Speaker 2: that he's supposed to represent a parallel government of which
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Speaker 2: the voice, by the way, would it be the Advisory
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Speaker 2: Parliament the start of a parallel government with sovereignty to
45:14
Speaker 2: be decided. You've already got your own, ambassador. I don't
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Speaker 2: think we've been told which of those two models this
45:20
Speaker 2: government is working towards.
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Speaker 5: And basically it means our sovereignty has been taken away
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Speaker 5: from us without a democratic process. And that's what's at
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Speaker 5: heart here. The moment you sign a treaty with a
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Speaker 5: foreign nation, whether it's a foreign first nation or whatever,
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Speaker 5: you have signed up on behalf of the people of
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Speaker 5: this nation. So, whether he likes it or not, he
45:37
Speaker 5: actually represents all Australians, but he is putting the interest
45:40
Speaker 5: of a minority first. And we go straight back to
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Speaker 5: the voice, which is dividing the nation by race. There
45:46
Speaker 5: you go, yet again, dividing the nation by race.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and yes it is so turning it back
45:53
Speaker 2: on the whole enlightenment. Just quickly rowan. The ABC cannot
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Speaker 2: help pushing us into Israel bias. Here again is one
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Speaker 2: of its worst offenders. Global Affairs editor John Lyons on
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Speaker 2: ABC Radio this morning, reporting on what is in fact
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Speaker 2: Israel striking back of the Hezbela terrorist army that's been
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Speaker 2: firing nine thousand rockets and missiles at it for a
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Speaker 2: year now his John Lions.
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Speaker 4: Another one of Israel's wars in the Middle East, of course,
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Speaker 4: is with Lebanon, where I am.
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Speaker 2: Typical lines saying it's Israel's war when Hamas and Hesbla
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Speaker 2: and Iran actually started it and saying it's Israel's war
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Speaker 2: on Lebanon when it's actually against Hezbollah. How does the
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Speaker 2: ABC let this clown get away with this bias so blatantly.
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Speaker 5: Well, because they believe it, and that's why we should
46:44
Speaker 5: be defunding a coalition. Government must immediately start dismantling the
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Speaker 5: ABC because this is really dangerous stuff to talking about
46:51
Speaker 5: Israel's wars. Israel is the person or the body being
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Speaker 5: attacked here. Israel is fighting for its very existence. Is
46:59
Speaker 5: as if you've got seven bullies much bigger coming and
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Speaker 5: pounding it, and it's fighting for its very survival. Every
47:05
Speaker 5: single decision made by the Israeli government, if it gets
47:08
Speaker 5: it wrong, could lead literally for the extinction of that
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Speaker 5: nation and its people, and to blame it on Israel's wars.
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Speaker 5: This is Israel's defense. This is what lion means, not wars,
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Speaker 5: this is pure defense. Well, Lebrae must be supported by
47:23
Speaker 5: our nation and the ABC's shame on them yet again,
47:26
Speaker 5: yet again backing.
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Speaker 2: The bullies absolutely. It was like saying, you know, World
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Speaker 2: War two was Britain's war now they were Hitler's wars
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Speaker 2: at Rown Dean, thank you so much indeed for your time,
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Speaker 2: really appreciated. That's it for me. Coming up next, Sherry
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Speaker 2: markson good Night