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Devin Lloyd on Confidence, Year 2 Growth | The O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Zoom.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this one because it's always nice
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Speaker 2: to talk to a success story, and in my opinion,
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Speaker 2: this is the beginning of a huge success story for
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Speaker 2: this Devin Lloyd, Jaguars linebacker. First of all, I appreciate.
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Speaker 3: Your join us.
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Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: Good to see and do you see it that way?
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Speaker 2: Do you see your second year? You know, you went
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Speaker 2: through a lot as a rookie and have been very
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Speaker 2: consistent this year. Do you see it as growth for you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely see it as growth.
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Speaker 3: Every year I want to grow, and I think last
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Speaker 3: year there was so much that I just didn't know.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot that I had to kind
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Speaker 3: of adjust to going from college to the NFL, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I learned, and you know, I'm really playing
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Speaker 3: a lot better, but I'm also just doing a lot better,
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Speaker 3: you know, mentally, and I think that, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 3: everything ties in and you know, football is a beautiful game,
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Speaker 3: but it's just a game, and you know, I feel
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Speaker 3: like in the bigger picture in regards to life, you know,
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Speaker 3: that's the area of growth that you know I'm the
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Speaker 3: most you know, happy that I improved in and and just
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Speaker 3: looking to continue to keep growing.
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Speaker 2: Would you be It's a hard question to answer, but
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Speaker 2: would you be playing as well as you are now
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Speaker 2: if you hadn't gone through that?
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Speaker 3: If you follow me, Yeah, you know it's tough to say.
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Speaker 3: You never know, I would say no, but you know,
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Speaker 3: I think just I don't even want to worry about that.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the right spirits and definitely in
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Speaker 3: the right headspace and just looking to continue to keep
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Speaker 3: you in better.
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Speaker 2: Now what you went through last year, and we'll move
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Speaker 2: on after this question. Uh, it would have bothered some
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Speaker 2: guys at the point where maybe they don't recover. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it was a tough time and uh, we're back up
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Speaker 2: for a couple of games. Is the first round pick
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Speaker 2: that's not easy to go through? What enabled you to
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Speaker 2: grow from it rather than go the other direction?
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Speaker 1: You follow?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just completely humbling myself and doing what's best for
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Speaker 3: the team. You know, I completely bought it into my
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Speaker 3: role and whatever they asked me to do this what
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Speaker 3: I was just telling myself, whatever they asked me to do,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to do that to the best of my ability,
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Speaker 3: and we were on a good team too, So I
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Speaker 3: want to help the team win. At the end of
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Speaker 3: the day, I want to win, and so I'm blessed
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Speaker 3: to be in the position that I am to be
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Speaker 3: on such a successful team with you know, a lot
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Speaker 3: of great players and really good coaches. So I don't
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Speaker 3: want to hold the team back in any way. I
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Speaker 3: want to do whatever I can to help propel the
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Speaker 3: team to where we need to be.
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Speaker 2: Who did you lean on the most? Who's been I
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Speaker 2: guess the coach player, not just in that moment, but
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Speaker 2: overall through your first what twenty games?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my family support was so big, you know,
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Speaker 3: and as far as you know in the building, I mean, really,
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Speaker 3: all the guys Foyer, Josh, you know, some of the
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Speaker 3: veteran guys, Ray, Shawn, I mean, all those guys had
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Speaker 3: my back.
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Speaker 1: Cisco, those guys really just kind.
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Speaker 3: Of you know, we're in a way reassuring that you know,
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Speaker 3: I am the player that I am, and you know,
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Speaker 3: they all had confidence in me still, and you know,
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Speaker 3: everybody goes through it.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's better for me to have gone through
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Speaker 1: that early.
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Speaker 3: And obviously the expectations were different being a first round pick.
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Speaker 3: So sure, you know it was more kind of blown up,
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Speaker 3: but everyone goes through it, and so just just keep
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Speaker 3: my head level.
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Speaker 2: When you see improvement, when you're watching film yourself now
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Speaker 2: compared to last year, what do you see for me?
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Speaker 3: I see stronger, play, stronger and faster. And last year,
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Speaker 3: one of the things I didn't know is you know
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Speaker 3: how important it was to keep building your strength throughout
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Speaker 3: the year. And that's what thing that I built on
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Speaker 3: this year from last year.
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Speaker 2: Season wears you down, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, big time.
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Speaker 3: You're going to get guys that are way stronger than
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Speaker 3: pack twelve linemen, you know, so you got to keep
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Speaker 3: building your strength and then you can see confidence within
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Speaker 3: the scheme. You know, understanding where to be exactly how
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Speaker 3: to you know, how to fit certain run fits or
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Speaker 3: just even little things like vision and break gets your landmark,
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Speaker 3: settle and then break. You know, I'm not always in college,
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Speaker 3: that wasn't a thing, you know, we always kind of
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Speaker 3: relayed off routes, and so that's what I was saying though,
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Speaker 3: like the NFL game is so much different.
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Speaker 1: So understanding all the techniques in the.
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Speaker 3: NFL and really that allows you to play fast and
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Speaker 3: so just all that little stuff.
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Speaker 2: So it's uh, I've always said, you know, last decade
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Speaker 2: or so, once a few people explained it to me.
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Speaker 2: It's almost a different sport the NFL to college. And
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Speaker 2: maybe that's exaggerating a little bit, but it in terms
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Speaker 2: of what it takes with what you're talking about, in
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Speaker 2: term of the knowledge going into a game that you
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Speaker 2: have to have compared to college where you can sort
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Speaker 2: of react. Am I getting that right?
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Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Every college does it differently, and so some things in
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Speaker 3: college will translate, some things won't, and so the things
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Speaker 3: that don't, you know, you have to break those habits.
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Speaker 3: And some schools will have an NFL system, and some
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Speaker 3: schools will have everything that we have in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: You know, you taught we had a lot of things,
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Speaker 3: but not all of them, you know, and so there
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Speaker 3: was a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: That I had to learn. Coverages that we didn't run
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Speaker 1: in college. I had to learn. So there was just
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Speaker 1: you know, learning that needed to be done.
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Speaker 2: Got you how do you not use confidence?
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Speaker 3: I mean you have to for me, being a man
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Speaker 3: of faith, you know, you have to know who you
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Speaker 3: are in God, and for me I have to really
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Speaker 3: I see myself the way God sees me. And so
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Speaker 3: whenever I do that, you know, you're you realize, you
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Speaker 3: know where your strength comes from. And with him, you
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Speaker 3: know you're you will never least confidence. But really just
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Speaker 3: preparation as well. You know, you have to put into
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Speaker 3: work and you have to do your part. You know,
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Speaker 3: you have to make sure that you're ready for whatever.
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Speaker 2: Look you see, and they're talking about this defense a
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Speaker 2: little bit. It's, uh, for some reason, doesn't seem to
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Speaker 2: be a defense that people nationally talk about for some reason.
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Speaker 2: But obviously it seems like you guys are playing to
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Speaker 2: the standard that you want to play, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: What is it about you guys? You know, Josh is
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Speaker 2: really the guy right now who's getting quote love nationally.
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Speaker 2: But it's it's playing more as a team than about
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Speaker 2: one guy. Do you follow me?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Is that you all's approach?
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Speaker 1: Josh is balling.
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Speaker 3: He definitely deserves that, and I'm glad we have a
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Speaker 3: representative and it's really yeah, like you said, we're all
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Speaker 3: playing together as one unit. Everybody shows up and works
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Speaker 3: every day. We all communicate really well and have a
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Speaker 3: genuine love and appreciation for one another and want to
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Speaker 3: play for each other and that all ties in together
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Speaker 3: and you see it manifest on the field by everybody's
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Speaker 3: in the right spot, everybody's hunting, everybody's getting to the ball.
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Speaker 1: Our mos.
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Speaker 3: This is what we do is we stop the run,
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Speaker 3: we pressure the quarterback, and we create takeaways.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what we strive to do best.
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Speaker 3: And you know that's kind of that fits the type
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Speaker 3: of players we have as well.
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Speaker 2: And it's funny every defensive guy Fouryer's bean in, Trayvon's
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Speaker 2: been in, has said the exact same thing you just said, meaning,
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Speaker 2: stop the run, create takeaways. Everybody being on the same
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Speaker 2: page matters, doesn't it. That's I don't know that I've
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Speaker 2: always heard that around every team I've been around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 3: We all have the same vision, and I think whenever
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Speaker 3: we all have the same vision, we understand what is
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Speaker 3: going to take for us to accomplish what we want
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Speaker 3: to accomplish. And that's so big and everyone has that.
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Speaker 3: So we're grateful.
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Speaker 2: One thing, even last year when there were some ups
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Speaker 2: and downs for you, when you were around the ball,
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Speaker 2: you made plays, It created turnovers. Have you always had
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Speaker 2: that knack? Because I've been around really good defensive players
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Speaker 2: who when they're around the ball don't have that knack.
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Speaker 2: Has that always been something you've had?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, ever since I started playing football, specifically on the
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Speaker 3: defensive side my senior year in high school, that was
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Speaker 3: kind of always my thing. I always just made plays
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Speaker 3: on the ball, and prior to playing on defense, I
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Speaker 3: was always trying to attack the ball, So I think
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Speaker 3: that kind of translated. But I mean, yeah, every year,
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Speaker 3: you know, it was just attacking the football, you know,
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Speaker 3: making plays on the football.
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Speaker 2: What did you play offensively before you switch the defense
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Speaker 2: wide receiver? So how tough was that to convince you
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Speaker 2: to make that change? Everybody was.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to score in high school, but I felt
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Speaker 3: like I played free safety in high school my sendior year,
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Speaker 3: and you know, I made a lot of plays, and
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Speaker 3: I loved the physicality of defense, like just flying down
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Speaker 3: and and just reckon havoc. And so when I started
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Speaker 3: getting recruited, I had some offers a free safety, summer
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Speaker 3: wide receiver, but the majority of them were outside linebacker,
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Speaker 3: inside linebacker, and those were also the best schools, and
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Speaker 3: so I figured, you know, I want to go to
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Speaker 3: the best school.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can make.
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Speaker 3: Transition obviously, you know, they see something in me, and
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Speaker 3: so I didn't really think too much about it, and
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Speaker 3: sure enough, you know, I went to Utah inside linebacker.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad I did. I'm grateful that I did.
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Speaker 2: A two star recruit, which back when I was covering recruiting,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't all stars, but now that's everything. So you're
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Speaker 2: obviously not everybody's all American in high school coming out.
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Speaker 2: How did that help in terms of continuing to have
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Speaker 2: to work and not being told from day one, hey,
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Speaker 2: you're going to the NFL.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a sense of like I have to
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Speaker 3: just improve so much, and it was almost a restart
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Speaker 3: because I was playing completely different position and this was
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Speaker 3: my second year on defense, ok So I really knew
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Speaker 3: nothing about defense. So I just was like, Okay, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to use this next year two years to just learn,
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Speaker 3: you know, and just just improve and get better and.
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Speaker 2: Your sponge everything. It was funny. You didn't have any
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Speaker 2: preconceived notions.
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Speaker 1: No, none at all. And I even asked my coach.
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Speaker 3: I was like, so are you read shirting me as
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Speaker 3: if like almost like I know you're going to and
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Speaker 3: he didn't bring it up, and I don't think he
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Speaker 3: wanted to necessarily, but when I asked that, I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of like, okay, you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: not all the way ready yet. So and now I was,
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Speaker 3: you know completely, that's what I wanted, because you know,
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Speaker 3: I wanted to learn, I wanted to grow.
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Speaker 2: I may have asked this before, but when making that transition,
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Speaker 2: it's pretty significant transition from two star recruit and not
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Speaker 2: just to making it in the NFL. And I mean
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Speaker 2: some guys come in as udfas, but to a first
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Speaker 2: round pick. When did you sort of know that this
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Speaker 2: could be your future.
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Speaker 3: I always knew it was going to be my future
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Speaker 3: from the time that I went to college. The goal
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Speaker 3: is always the NFL, and we had guys that had
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Speaker 3: been in the NFL. I would say when it started
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Speaker 3: to really take form is midway through my red shirt
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Speaker 3: sophomore year. I ended up starting my red shirt sophomore year,
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Speaker 3: and a few games in, you know, I was really
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Speaker 3: just making plays and at that point I really believe, like, okay,
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Speaker 3: everything is working out the way I was hoping. And
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Speaker 3: from there as a matter of just you know, how
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Speaker 3: high do I want to go?
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Speaker 1: You know, how far do I want to get?
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Speaker 2: So how many inner options would you have this year?
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Speaker 2: Without the thumb?
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Speaker 1: I would have at least too, it would be guaranteed too.
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Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, but really I would say for.
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Speaker 2: Sure, is that the toughest thing you've played through? I mean,
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Speaker 2: playing with basically a cast. You're playing with one hand basically.
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Speaker 2: I guess it's some positions that's okay, But at your
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Speaker 2: position that's tough.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is tough, especially when you have that many
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Speaker 3: opportunities come your way during that time, and it's like
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Speaker 3: it's so that much harder to capitalize on making making
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Speaker 3: those plays. They really they did a really good job
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Speaker 3: with the actual cast. So tackling and striking wasn't really
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Speaker 3: that challenging. But when it comes to catching, obviously and
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Speaker 3: just even scooping the ball up, sure, just any plays
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Speaker 3: on the ball, you know, that was really difficult.
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Speaker 2: I find a question all these lines, what would Devin
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Speaker 2: Lloyd now tell rookie Devin Lloyd?
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Speaker 3: For one, this is a week by week business. Just
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Speaker 3: be grateful for every day and know where your strength
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Speaker 3: comes from.
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Speaker 2: Is the week to week business. And it's such a
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Speaker 2: cliche that fans get tired of hearing it. But it's
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Speaker 2: the one thing you start here in second here guys
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Speaker 2: say quickly because they all of a sudden get it
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Speaker 2: that just because you do something one week and this
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Speaker 2: and there's not many blowouts, there's not many, there's not
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Speaker 2: much easy stuff. That's probably the biggest lesson you learn
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Speaker 2: is rookie, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is understanding the preparation that goes into it,
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Speaker 3: the challenge every week. I mean every week. You're playing
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Speaker 3: legit players every week, and it doesn't get any easier.
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Speaker 3: The games just increasingly become more and more important. So
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Speaker 3: you have to really prepare every week like it's your
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Speaker 3: last week, and really just be grateful for the opportunity
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Speaker 3: you have. It doesn't matter if you play bad, you
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Speaker 3: play good. It doesn't matter the past of the past.
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Speaker 3: Focus on the next week.
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Speaker 2: One thing I may have asked this last time I
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Speaker 2: talked to you, like this, both parents in the Navy, correct,
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Speaker 2: How does that shape a kid? I would think that's
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Speaker 2: a different way to grow up with a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a different outlook on life than some of your peers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can break it down basically.
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Speaker 3: You know, growing up with my dad, it was just
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Speaker 3: us too, and he was gone a lot, so when
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Speaker 3: he was gone, it would just be me. So I
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Speaker 3: would have to be responsible from a very young age.
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Speaker 3: From I was a teenager, you know, pretty much living
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Speaker 3: by myself, and I had I didn't never miss school,
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Speaker 3: you know, I had to obviously, I had, you know,
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Speaker 3: my aunts and uncles coming by, you know daily to
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Speaker 3: make sure like I'm fed and everything. But you know,
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Speaker 3: I had to be really responsible. I had to take
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Speaker 3: care of my business. And whenever my dad was home,
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Speaker 3: he's pretty OCD and so everything has to be a
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Speaker 3: certain way. So I'm talking, if the bathroom has any
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Speaker 3: water on it, I'm gonna hear it. I'm gonna be
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Speaker 3: up at six in the morning cleaning the bathroom. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you got to cut the grass without him say anything
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Speaker 3: on Saturday mornings, you know, before he wakes up. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's just all those little things that build habits, great
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Speaker 3: habits that you know eventually turn into work ethic.
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Speaker 2: So what does your bathroom look like?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 3: Well, my bathroom looks pretty good, probably not like how
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Speaker 3: his looks, because you know it's my house, right, but
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Speaker 3: it looks good like you know, I could have people
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Speaker 3: come over and they see the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know that's nice.
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Speaker 2: You know, are you as ocd as him?
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Speaker 3: No, but you know I do have a lot of
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Speaker 3: his traits, like even though he folds clothes or just
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Speaker 3: all the little stuff.
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Speaker 2: You know, I got it from him, So it's stuff.
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Speaker 2: When you were sixteen, you were probably complaining about it
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Speaker 2: or inside complaining about fighting, complaining to him. But now
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Speaker 2: you appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely do appreciate it now.
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Speaker 3: And you know when you look back and even when
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Speaker 3: he comes over and you see he still you know,
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Speaker 3: does it and now it's to your house and you
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Speaker 3: just really are appreciative. Yeah, you're appreciative because it could
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Speaker 3: have been an other way around, and I wouldn't want that,
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Speaker 3: you know. So it obviously was difficult. But at the
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Speaker 3: end of the day too. Back then, whenever I listened,
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Speaker 3: you know, it was great. You know, I just got it.
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Speaker 3: It's just get it done.
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Speaker 2: Two final questions on these lines. It sounds from this
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Speaker 2: conversation like you don't think you're close to your ceiling yet.
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Speaker 2: How without bringing yourself too much, how where can you
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Speaker 2: go from here as a player?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I mean really I have I feel like a lot
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Speaker 3: in me to grow. Obviously, plays on the ball, you know,
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Speaker 3: you want to make game change and play sacks, interceptions,
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Speaker 3: force fumbles. All that is always going to be there
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Speaker 3: and that's always on my mind. And then it's far
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Speaker 3: as just executing play by play the little things communicating,
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Speaker 3: you know, mastering communication.
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Speaker 2: That's still the thing, that's still what you're focused on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's there's room for growth for that
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Speaker 3: for sure. And I mean really just being somebody that
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Speaker 3: everyone can trust. And I'm not saying that I'm not
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Speaker 3: there right now, but you know, I feel like there's
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Speaker 3: room for growth in that area as well. You know,
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Speaker 3: I don't want it to be any hesitation, any doubt anything,
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Speaker 3: you know, I want it to be like, Okay, you
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Speaker 3: know he's on it.
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Speaker 1: He's always on it.
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Speaker 2: You saw what it can be to struggle as a team.
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Speaker 2: How cool is it? How special is it to be
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Speaker 2: part of what's going on right now in terms of
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Speaker 2: it feels like it's still ascending, feels like this guy
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Speaker 2: is a limit for this thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this last night because we're
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Speaker 3: eight and three and it feels like we still haven't
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Speaker 3: put together a perfect game like that is such a
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Speaker 3: great feeling to know that, you know, we haven't even
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Speaker 3: played our best and we're still so good as a team.
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna come together. It's gonna come together at
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Speaker 3: the right time. You know, I believe that wholeheartedly. And
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Speaker 3: I mean the way we work, you know, the way
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Speaker 3: we do things the right way, and so you know
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Speaker 3: it's gonna come together at the right time. But you know,
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Speaker 3: like I said, we're really just focused on the Bengals
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Speaker 3: right now, locked in on the moment, looking to take
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Speaker 3: advantage of today.
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Speaker 1: But you know we're gonna put it together at the
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Speaker 1: right time.
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Speaker 2: Got you the final thing we do called the ozone
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Speaker 2: five five quick questions, your last binge watch.
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Speaker 1: Ballers?
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's almost old school these days.
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Speaker 1: I got you.
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Speaker 2: Last song you played in the car this morning coming out?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Did I play Presence of the Lord?
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Speaker 2: Best player you've played against college or NFL? NFL it stands.
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Speaker 1: Out best player? Ooh you gotta be.
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes favorite movie as a kid.
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Speaker 1: Favorite movie is a kid.
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Speaker 2: Like maybe when you were five or six, even like
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Speaker 2: the growing up, like the ones you grow up with.
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Speaker 3: That was Transformers. I love cars. Okay, so it was
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Speaker 3: either Transformers or a Spider Man.
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Speaker 2: Ye, you're my kid's age, same deal. So and I
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Speaker 2: think I said before what I say again, person or
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Speaker 2: people most responsible for you being here.
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Speaker 3: To that, I would say my mom and dad, those two,
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Speaker 3: which is so vital. And you know the person that
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Speaker 3: I have.
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Speaker 2: Got you, Devin Lloyd. Always enjoyed talking to you. I
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Speaker 2: appreciate you taking time on a busy week. Thank you
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Speaker 2: for joining the ozone podcast.
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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for having me