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Hour 1 - The Bill is Due · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's our number one, and a happy
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Speaker 1: hump day to you. It is the twenty eighth day
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Speaker 1: of January and we begin this Ben Malo shop. We
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Speaker 1: sit up all night for this podcast with a penalty
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Speaker 1: flag thrown against Bill Belichick as he gets the snub,
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame snub. So questions why did Patriots
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Speaker 1: legend Bill Belichick not procure enough votes to reach the
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame on the first ballot with
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Speaker 1: chatter that he was kept out by a former Colts executive?
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Speaker 1: Does it make any sense Belichick wait for the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame over quote integrity issues? And if Bill Belichick
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Speaker 1: gets stiff armed on the first ballot, does that mean
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is next. We will answer all of those
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Speaker 1: questions and ask even more, and you'll hear all of
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Speaker 1: it right now. It's our number one. Well, the bill
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Speaker 1: So we are back at it this hour and our lead.
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Speaker 1: We got a good one. Now. Early in the day,
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Speaker 1: I made my first look around, so it's a wrap
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Speaker 1: around round robin. I was like, oh man, what's going on.
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Speaker 1: There's really nothing that's like a lead story. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's things that are interesting to me, but there's really
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Speaker 1: nothing that's like a lead store. And then it dropped
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Speaker 1: from the football heavens, what are we talking about? The
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Speaker 1: voting booth? Our lead from the voting booth. Here some
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Speaker 1: stunning news, the stunner from down Under, as we have learned,
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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame ballot box, like American elections,
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Speaker 1: there's some funny business that goes on in the election.
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Speaker 1: So if you did not see the electoral process, of
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Speaker 1: course you didn't because it hidden. It's a secret vote.
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Speaker 1: It's like do you see white smoke? Is there white?
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Speaker 1: It's like this is there a new pope? Well, if
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Speaker 1: you did not hear by now, and it's possible that
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Speaker 1: you are stuck in some kind of time warp. So
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Speaker 1: we've learned that Patriots coach Bill Belichick didn't make the cut.
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick will not will not be a first ballot
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer, and that really is the
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Speaker 1: Stunn from down Under. Despite not one, not two, not three,
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Speaker 1: not four, not five, six super Bowl winning teams that
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Speaker 1: he guided as a head coach and another couple as
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Speaker 1: an assistant for Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick fell short of
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Speaker 1: the threshold he needed to get to over forty votes,
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Speaker 1: and forty was the number he had to get the
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Speaker 1: forty so he did not get there. He fell short
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Speaker 1: of the forty out of fifty votes needed to get
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Speaker 1: in and be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame during his first year of eligibility, so that did
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Speaker 1: not happen. Belichick, we are told, received a call from
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Speaker 1: some hack at the Hall of Fame last week with
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Speaker 1: the news that Hey, Bill, I know you're like the
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Speaker 1: greatest coach in the Internet world and all that stuff,
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Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, you not good enough for our little
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Not right now, sorry now. Belichick said
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Speaker 1: to be puzzled and disappointed. He was not discombobulated. That
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Speaker 1: word was not used, but puzzled and disappointed by his
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Speaker 1: inability to procure the support that he needed to get
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Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He needed at
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Speaker 1: least eighty percent of the committee member's handpicked hacks who
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Speaker 1: vote for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So that
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Speaker 1: is a good jumping off point. Let us discuss. This
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Speaker 1: is a polarizing issue, all the rising issue. So the
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Speaker 1: obvious question, as we discussed, the obvious question is why
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Speaker 1: why did Patriots legend Bill Belichick not procure enough votes
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Speaker 1: to reach the threshold to get into the Pro Football
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame on his first time on the ballot.
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Speaker 1: So I've got playing cards, Olympic medal, and haberdasherie, and
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Speaker 1: we will combine all of these things together and we
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Speaker 1: are going to make a meatball HOGI which Belichick can
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Speaker 1: choke on the meatball hogy because he's not going to Canton, Ohio,
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Speaker 1: not this year for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1: So my first thought on this is this wasn't really
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Speaker 1: a vote. This was a hit job. This was a
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Speaker 1: hit job, an inside job by the cabal that votes
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Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, a backroom deal.
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Speaker 1: Smoky cigar smoke. That's in my head, it's like he's
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Speaker 1: done on zoom now. But in my head, it's a
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Speaker 1: smoky room that smells like whiskey from the nineteen eighties.
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Speaker 1: And they all sit around at some roadside motel and
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Speaker 1: they go over who gets in, who's on the cool
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Speaker 1: kids list, and who's not on the cool kids list,
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Speaker 1: And it's weak sauce dressed up as process. It's the process.
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Speaker 1: You got to go through the process. Now, as we
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Speaker 1: understand it, all roads lead to one place, Bill pauleyon.
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Speaker 2: Bill.
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Speaker 1: And if you're old, you know who that is. If
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Speaker 1: you're not old, you might not know who Bill Pollyon is.
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Speaker 1: He's got a long memory and longer grudges, longer grudges.
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Speaker 1: So this goes back to the salad days when the
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Speaker 1: Colts and the Patriots at one point they were in
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Speaker 1: the same division, and it was trench warfare when those
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Speaker 1: teams got together in the glory days of the Patriots,
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Speaker 1: and they would go back and forth, and Bill Poleon
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Speaker 1: came up on the wrong side most of the time.
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Speaker 1: Most of the time when the Patriots played a Bill
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Speaker 1: Poleon team, the Patriots ended up winning, and certainly the
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Speaker 1: games that mattered and Poleon decided to go open up
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Speaker 1: the playing cards, and he used the spygate card from
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the deck, blood instrument like a baseball bat,
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Speaker 1: to bludgeon Belichick. Bill Pollyan bludgeon Belichick. So this is theater.
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Speaker 1: It is not kabuki theater. It is revenge theater by
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Speaker 1: Bill Polly. As we understand it, Poleon did not need evidence.
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Speaker 1: He did not need nuance or context. You don't need
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Speaker 1: any of that. One word you say that one with
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Speaker 1: chea chedda, you say that word just like that, and
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Speaker 1: Boom goes to dynamite. Boom goes to dynamite. And We've
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Speaker 1: got to send him message to Belichick because I didn't
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Speaker 1: like him. So we got to send a message, right,
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Speaker 1: And it's like you're vandalizing a statue or something like,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna send a message that'll fix everything. Okay, Negative campaigning,
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Speaker 1: one oh one, Why do people do negative campaigning? Spoiler alert?
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Speaker 1: It works, It works, you see it in politics. This
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Speaker 1: is a political thing, the hall of fame. And so
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Speaker 1: you reframe the dominance of Bill Belichick in New England
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Speaker 1: as tainted, and you let the cowards hide behind the
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Speaker 1: anonymity of not having to reveal their votes. Hell hath
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Speaker 1: no fury like a curmudgeon scorned. And that would be
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick his nemesis. Here, Bill Polling. It's the battle
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Speaker 1: of the Bills. So Bill Polling for him a lifetime
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Speaker 1: in football, right, the man that thinks he invented football.
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Speaker 1: Bill Polling, one of the great a holes of our time.
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Speaker 1: It's great, we got a hole. Belichick's a whole two.
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Speaker 1: So it's perfect. They're perfect for each other. They're both schmucks.
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Speaker 1: And so there's Bill Paullion. This is his Mona Lisa.
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Speaker 1: This is the Mona Lisa for Bill Poulion, petty permanent smug.
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Speaker 1: Shove it up your turk is Belichick. Yeah, how does
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Speaker 1: that taste? And the whole cabal thing for the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame anonymous voters in terms of their actual well,
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Speaker 1: now we know who they are. We'll get to that
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Speaker 1: later in the hour. They've got clean hands and clearly
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Speaker 1: some dirty motives, some dirty motives here and all this. Listen,
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Speaker 1: I am on the side Belichick should have been in
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. This is an absolute travesty. It's ridiculous,
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Speaker 1: and Belichick is the gold standard of this era of coaches,
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Speaker 1: And there's no need to delay this. It's just written
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Speaker 1: in absolute spite. I don't know what color spie is,
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Speaker 1: but it cheapens the Hall of Fame, the Pro Football
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. It does out page two, keeping the
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Speaker 1: theme of the hour going, keeping the drum beat going. Here.
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Speaker 1: The question I will now ask to the steam panel,
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Speaker 1: and you're part of that, is does it make any
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Speaker 1: sense to make Bill Belichick wait for the Pro Football
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because of integrity issues? Right, let's start
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Speaker 1: with that. So I'm giving this one side, and I've
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Speaker 1: already gotten some email. You better go out and bash.
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Speaker 1: You better support Paulian in the Hall of Fame. And
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Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't deserve to get in and all that. You
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Speaker 1: have to look at each case on an individual basis, right,
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Speaker 1: And the Pro Football Hall of Fame has never my
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Speaker 1: entire life, has never carried themselves like the Vatican. It's Canton, Ohio.
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Speaker 1: It's far from the Vatican. And so this is not
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Speaker 1: even Cooperstown either. Cooperstown they used to talk about having
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Speaker 1: high standards in the Baseball Hall of Fame, and they've
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Speaker 1: just urinated all over that. They publicly defecated over the
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Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. Now for years that oh that
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Speaker 1: was the hardest one to get in and all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: So the Pro Football Hall of Fame is not that.
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Speaker 1: So don't pretend that it's the vaticated or the Baseball
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And even the Baseball Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: is now they've now, as I said, defecated all over
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Speaker 1: that that's meaningless. Now they let the cheater, the cheating
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Speaker 1: asstro Carlos Beltron, the man that was the leader of
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Speaker 1: the trash Can Symphony, they let him in. Ped Poppy
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Speaker 1: David Ortiz has already enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1: Can't put big Bonds in there, though, or Roger Clemens
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Speaker 1: or Maguire or Soso those guys. So spare me the
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Speaker 1: pro clutching on all this. The Pro Football Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame acting like the moral compass when it comes to Belichick,
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Speaker 1: all of us, and this is the point of demarcation,
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Not letting Belichick into the Pro Football You
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Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. That is rich, That is Richie Rich.
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Speaker 1: Now the league in general has looked the other way,
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Speaker 1: the NFL and by proxy, the Pro Football Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame has looked the other way. In my life, we
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Speaker 1: have had the stickham steroids, ball tampering, fake injuries, bounties,
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Speaker 1: crowd noise, shenanigans that have taken place, cap gymnastics, you
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Speaker 1: name it. It's all happened. And all of those people are
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. No one's out of the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because any of that stuff in the
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame vote
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Speaker 1: also is a scattershot situations, like throwing darts into a windstorm,
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Speaker 1: you don't really know where it's gonna go. There's no
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Speaker 1: purity test for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. There
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Speaker 1: never was. Now there is. We woke up in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six after all these years, and now there's a
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Speaker 1: purity test to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1: And let's talk for a moment. You and I about
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Speaker 1: what I call Olympic medal winning hutzba Olympic medal winning hutsba,
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Speaker 1: Bill Pollyan lecturing anyone right. Bill Pollyon, who rarely his teams,
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Speaker 1: did well against Bill Belichick, so he multiple times tried
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Speaker 1: to change the rules because he couldn't beat the Patriots
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Speaker 1: with Belichick the way the rules were, so he tried
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Speaker 1: to change the rules. And while he was running the Colts,
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Speaker 1: if you're old enough to remember, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: the Colts were visited by what we call the the
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Speaker 1: Decibel Fairy, the decibel Fairy that showed up at the
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Speaker 1: RCA Dome that was where the Colts used to play,
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Speaker 1: and cranked up the volume to eleven. In the stadium,
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Speaker 1: they would pump in artificial crowd noise. And Bill Pollyon
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Speaker 1: had no problem with that. That was fine while he
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Speaker 1: was running the Colts. But his other stuff, well, that's
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Speaker 1: that's a problem. Police and holding Belichick out on the
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Speaker 1: first ballot. It's like going to Germany and visiting the
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Speaker 1: Autobahn where autobon. Butsch one of our old callers. He's
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Speaker 1: retired now because he moved back to the States. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't call anymore, although he still wants Ricky Waters in
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But putting a speed bump on
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Speaker 1: the autobh, well, the whole point of the ottobon is
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Speaker 1: there's no speed most there's no speed bumps in the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. To get in the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame and the NFL and the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of mL benefited you, all the gray areas and all that.
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Speaker 1: That's the league that they didn't care and they look
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Speaker 1: the other way. And now all of a sudden, you've
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Speaker 1: got to be a choir boy or Belichick go I
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Speaker 1: to punish him for a year. So what is Belichick
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Speaker 1: going to do between now and next year to clean
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Speaker 1: his reputation for the purity police at the Pro Football
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Now the last word, keeping the beat going,
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Speaker 1: rat of tat tat, keeping the beat going here. So
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Speaker 1: the question, now, if Bill Belichick gets stiff armed, right
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Speaker 1: stiff armed on the first ballot, it's a natural conclusion.
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Speaker 1: Everyone's making the same conclusion. I'll be the latest add
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Speaker 1: onto it. I think it's a legitimate question that needs
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Speaker 1: to be asked. I think it's a question most of
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Speaker 1: us have. So if you don't let Belichick in because
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Speaker 1: he's a dirty, rotten scoundrel, does that mean Tom Brady
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Speaker 1: also does not get in? That Tom Brady gets denied
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Speaker 1: with his avocado ice cream. He can't get in the
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame on the first voter. You've
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Speaker 1: set the president, have you not? I think the same
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Speaker 1: player about Brady was right there with Belichick and benefited.
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Speaker 1: If Belichick benefited from everything that was going on, Tom
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Speaker 1: Brady benefit. If that's if you're on the high moral Mountain,
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Speaker 1: if that's where you side. So we are playing this game,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna play the game. That would be the logical boomerang.
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Speaker 1: And I would say buckle up, fasten your seatbelt, because
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Speaker 1: you can't open the cheating drawer halfway. You can't do
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Speaker 1: it once you go down there. It's how far down
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Speaker 1: into the matrix do you want to go? You take
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Speaker 1: the red pill or the blue pill here? And so
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Speaker 1: if this is a precedent setting event, now either you
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Speaker 1: judge careers on wins, rings, impact and can you tell
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Speaker 1: the history of the pro world of pro football without
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? Of course not. And you'll get in eventually.
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Speaker 1: Are you going to turn this into a half hour
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Speaker 1: episodes of Judge Judy where Judge Judy decides whether or
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Speaker 1: not you get in or not? Now, since you have
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Speaker 1: slum down Bill Belichick, Brady, the Brady Klan, the marching
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Speaker 1: and chat of society for Tom Brady, there, I guess
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Speaker 1: Brady has to go to the haberdasherie and get a
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Speaker 1: matching scarlet letter that Bill Belichick is going to wear
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Speaker 1: so Brady can get that scarlet letter. That's the extension
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Speaker 1: of the argument. That's the extension of the argument, and
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Speaker 1: it's gobblede gook with a capital G. Gobblygook the Pro
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. I will go back to something
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Speaker 1: I said a few minutes ago. They've always looked the
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Speaker 1: other way to cheating. That's the difference. That's why my
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Speaker 1: position on this is different than the Baseball of Fame.
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Speaker 1: But Baseball ruined the Hall of Fame. The writer's runed it,
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Speaker 1: putting a cheating a hole Carlos Beltron, and so that's
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Speaker 1: over too. I don't want to hear any more arguments about, oh,
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Speaker 1: you have to be a stander to get the Hall
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Speaker 1: of it. No, you don't. You just let you let
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Speaker 1: Beltron in, you let Big Poppy in. There's other steroid
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Speaker 1: guys that in. Certain guys can't get it. And so
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Speaker 1: if you want my evidence, you want receipts on this.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, the greatest receiver of all time. I think
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Speaker 1: we'd all agree on that. Played it in an era
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Speaker 1: where it was harder to play receiver than it is now.
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Speaker 1: It's easier. You had Jackson Smith and Jigba and Puka
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Speaker 1: Naku and all these guys a running WID's because he'si
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Speaker 1: to play right wide receiver. Jerry Rice would use gobs
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Speaker 1: of stickham. It did not stop him being put into
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And it's all time great and
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Speaker 1: cannonized Jerry Rice. Joe Montana benefitted from Jerry Rice using
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Speaker 1: the stick him in. Montana a couple of years ago
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Speaker 1: bragged about how the forty nine Ers offensive line protecting
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Speaker 1: Joe Montana were greased up like pigs. They put on
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff on their jerseys so they defensive
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Speaker 1: players couldn't grab a hole, all of them. And that
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Speaker 1: was cheating, and Montana was very proud of it, and
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Speaker 1: he's not looked down upon because of that. You can
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Speaker 1: go on John Elway. The Broncos openly cheated with the
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Speaker 1: salary cap. Elway was in cahoots with that, and that
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Speaker 1: when they were winning the Super Bowl at the end
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Speaker 1: of Elway's career, the Broncos got punished by the NFL
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Speaker 1: for that. Nobody brings that up, but we're gonna stop Bell.
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Speaker 1: Belichick's where we draw the line right there, That's where
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Speaker 1: we draw the line. So spare me the sudden great awakening.
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Speaker 1: And now it's all about the integrity of the Pro
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame place. And if you want to
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Speaker 1: retroactively apply penalties selectively, the line you know disappears. That's it.
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Speaker 1: It's pure chaos and that's what we are. And the
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Speaker 1: only ones thato like that are the flea bitten varmints
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Speaker 1: like Bill Poullian. It is the Ben Mahlor Show. So
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Speaker 1: the witch hunt is underway. The witch hunt is underway.
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Speaker 1: back to where we go in the big story. Everyone's
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Speaker 1: talking about this. Everyone's got an opinion on it. Bill
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Speaker 1: Belichick will not be a first ballot Hall of Famer
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Speaker 1: as Bill gets the snub for the twenty twenty six
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class. And this has caused an uprising
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Speaker 1: among the elites that get to vote for the Pro
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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. They're up in arms because everyone
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Speaker 1: everyone's like pointing the finger. Who did it? It's a winch.
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Speaker 1: We have an absolute witch hunt going on right now
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Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Among those that
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Speaker 1: were in the room trying to figure out who's the
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Speaker 1: who are the people that didn't vote for Belichick? Who
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Speaker 1: are the people that were brainwashed by Bill Pollian? And
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Speaker 1: so people are going around like, oh, who was in
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Speaker 1: there and what was going on? You know, And then
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Speaker 1: there's bees, well, it wasn't Bill Pollian, it was Robert Kraft.
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Speaker 1: It was Robert Craft had want he wanted his own
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Speaker 1: time in the Hall of Fame, and he didn't want
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to share the moment with with Belichick.
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Speaker 1: And Bill Polling's apparently deny that he influenced the Belichick
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Speaker 1: Snubb But that's just what you would say if you
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Speaker 1: did deny, if you did actually do it, you're not
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Speaker 1: going to admit to it, right, You're not going to admit.
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Speaker 1: So so this just adds another layer of intrigue, and
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Speaker 1: you say, well, who is it? Who are the people
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Speaker 1: that voted or didn't vote? And so there's the names
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Speaker 1: are out, some of the names are out. I think
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Speaker 1: all the names of the people that were in the
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Speaker 1: room are out. And so there's the great debate about like, well, well,
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Speaker 1: who exactly who are the voters? And so I thought
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Speaker 1: we'd play a little game. Let's try to figure out
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Speaker 1: who are the people. We'll call them numb nuts. We'll
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Speaker 1: call I don't know what else to came. What do
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Speaker 1: you want to call them? You have a different name,
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Speaker 1: we can call them numb nuts and try to figure
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Speaker 1: out who exactly were the people. We'll try to guess. Right,
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Speaker 1: So I have the not a list. It's a big board,
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Speaker 1: a big board of people that get to decide who
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Speaker 1: gets into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. These are
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Speaker 1: the elites, right, these are the elites. We've got Kent Summers,
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Speaker 1: retired football writer from the Arizona Republic, decides who goes
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Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He gets a vote.
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Speaker 1: Somebody named Darryl Ledbetner. I have no idea who that.
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Speaker 1: I guess he works with the Atlanta Journal Constitution. He
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Speaker 1: got in there. Radio guy and TV guy from Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: Scott Garso, I believe. I have no idea who that is.
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Speaker 1: Vic Carucci. I've heard of him. Somebody named Darren Gannett,
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Speaker 1: I believe from the Carolina Panthers. That guy got a vote.
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Speaker 1: Dan Pompeii, who's been around for a million years, from
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Speaker 1: the athletic somebody named Jeff Hopson. He's a longtime football
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Speaker 1: writer working for Bengals dot Com. Bengals dot Com gets
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Speaker 1: a vote on who gets into the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame. That's your Pro Football Hall of Fame right there,
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Speaker 1: Bengals dot Com. Who else, Let's see, we've got Tony Grossi.
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Speaker 1: That's like the angry Cleveland radio guy. He's an alternative voter,
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Speaker 1: so that doesn't really count. Tony Goslin, who's older than
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Speaker 1: Dirt and Dallas guy Jeff Legwall I believe is his name,
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Speaker 1: and he writes for that cable that website out of Bristol, Connecticut,
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Speaker 1: as a writer from Detroit. We've never heard of the
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. A Press gazette writer gets to vote. John McClain,
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Speaker 1: who's one thousand years old. He's a Houston guy. He
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Speaker 1: gets to vote. A TV guy from Indianapolis. Who else?
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Speaker 1: So this is good. Somebody that worked for Sam's sports
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Speaker 1: line gets the vote. That's outstanding. That is so good.
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Speaker 1: A writer for Raiders dot Com is an alternate s
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Speaker 1: Howard Ballser. He's still alive, Howard Ballser. He gets to
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Speaker 1: the side. Who else do we have Armaldo Armando Salgaro,
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Speaker 1: the guy used to be a Miami writer he's with
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Speaker 1: Clay Travis is out out kicked the coverage website. Who
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Speaker 1: else stands out here? Ron Borgeous, He's a Boston guy.
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Speaker 1: He works for the Talk of Fame network. What the
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Speaker 1: hell is that? I don't know what that is? Who
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Speaker 1: at the Times pick a union? They're still in business,
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Speaker 1: The Times, Picky Youn, Gary Myers, longtime Jets writer, Rich Samini.
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Speaker 1: He gets to help decide this. And there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of sixty people on this thing. We've got a writer
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Speaker 1: for joebucksfan dot Com gets to vote for the so
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Speaker 1: great this is so good, This is outstanding. Tony Dungee
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Speaker 1: did you think Doungee fell asleep? He falls? It makes
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Speaker 1: me fall asleep when I see him on TV. Dan
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Speaker 1: Fouts is on this thing. Lindsey Jones from The Ringer.
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Speaker 1: She gets to help decide who gets on the Pro
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Speaker 1: Football of Fame. This is just absolutely wonderful. Lisa Salters.
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Speaker 1: She gets to this side because she asked, how did
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Speaker 1: it feel after the game for the players as they
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Speaker 1: come off the field. That's good journalism. Nobody else could do.
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Speaker 1: That sounds so great. Oh, these are the people, These
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Speaker 1: are the people who decide who gets in and who
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Speaker 1: doesn't get in to the Hall of Fame. Just absolutely great, wonderful.
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Speaker 1: Scrooge rites in from the Bay Area. He's in the
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Speaker 1: younger demo, but someday he'll be in the older demo
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Speaker 1: if he's lucky. He says, the Hall of Fame today
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Speaker 1: is a effing joke. If Belichick isn't a Hall of Famer,
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Speaker 1: then no other coach should be in fair point. Ferg
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Speaker 1: Dog says Bill Belichick not being a first ballot Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer is also, he says, a joke. I have
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Speaker 1: Bill on my Mount Rushmore of all time great NFL coaches,
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Speaker 1: along with Bill Walsh, Don Shula, and Brandon Staley, who's
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Speaker 1: on yours. Well, you'll have to save that for later.
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Speaker 1: Ferg Dog Brandon Staley is on the All Time Yoga
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He would do yoga before the game.
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Speaker 1: Random Ryan in Carolina writes in. He says Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame controversy aside the opening NASCAR Exhibition race North Carolina
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Speaker 1: is in jeopardy due to snow in the southeast this
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Speaker 1: last weekend and more expected this weekend. Your thoughts, I'm devastating.
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Speaker 1: You can't you can't move a NASCAR race or cancel
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Speaker 1: a NASCAR race because of weather. You gotta figure out
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Speaker 1: a way get those snowplows in there. Bring We should
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Speaker 1: have a convoy random Ryan of snowplow trucks and bring
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Speaker 1: those blow torches to get the snow away so they
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Speaker 1: can have the race. Come on, you gotta do it.
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Speaker 1: King Rory rights in from Wisconscious says, let's keep it.
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Speaker 1: Really says they are just holding out Bill Belichick of
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Speaker 1: the Pro Football of Fame until Tom Brady is eligible
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Speaker 1: to go in. They want to put them in together.
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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they are the only
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Speaker 1: ones that get in the class of twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 1: Oh right, We're gonna wait till twenty twenty nine. Fat
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Speaker 1: Daddy rights in and he says, beautiful monologue, big men,
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Speaker 1: calling out those freaking weasels at the Pro Football Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame. O the people that vote for it. I
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Speaker 1: think all those members need dude wipes after voting for
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Speaker 1: Belichick to not go in the Hall of Fame, which
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Speaker 1: is a travesty. These weasels are out of touch. Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 1: sports Plus who hates Belichick cannot stand Belichick and he's
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Speaker 1: dying on the Belichick should not get in mountain and
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Speaker 1: it's a small, small group. It's a small group. He's
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Speaker 1: on the wrong side of history. But that's okay. You
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Speaker 1: can be on the wrong side. It's all right. I
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Speaker 1: a rundown of what we'll be talking about some of
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Speaker 1: the things we've done, not everything, but some of the
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Speaker 1: things we're talking about through the overnight now later on,
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Speaker 1: if you stay with us for the full festivity here,
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Speaker 1: well Mallard of the third degree, the riddle of the day,
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Speaker 1: right now. We'll start out with Jed who fled, Who's
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Speaker 1: in The valley of The. Sun, Hello, John, Welcome Oh.
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Speaker 4: BEN i certainly got the short end of the stick
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Speaker 4: having to follow Uh Jed.
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Speaker 1: Flesh let's let's pretend it didn't. Happen, John let's just
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Speaker 1: pretend that call did not. Happen i'm gonna forget.
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Speaker 4: It, well, hey, MAN i was thinking back WHEN i
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Speaker 4: for at least twelve. Years, okay that's a long.
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Speaker 1: Time that twelve years is a long, Time.
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Speaker 4: NIGHTLY i love, it you. Know, Anyway i'm a Huge seahawks.
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Speaker 4: Fan transplant into The valley of The sun From seattle
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Speaker 4: four years. AGO covid made it. Happen the only good
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Speaker 4: thing that came from. It my point is THAT i
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Speaker 4: listened to you, nightly and you just got to really you,
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Speaker 4: KNOW i want to know why you hate The seahawks
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Speaker 4: so much this?
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Speaker 1: SEASON i hate The. Seahawk why is any what do you?
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Speaker 1: THINK i hate The. SEAHAWKS i don't have The. Seahawks
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Speaker 1: what HAVE i?
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Speaker 4: SAID i listened to Your hour number one two nights.
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Speaker 4: Ago it was A sunday night after we beat Your,
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Speaker 4: rams and you know The seahawks have just beat The rams,
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Speaker 4: twice the forty nine ers, twice all in a five week.
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Speaker 4: Span and you asked yourself About Sam darnold and is
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Speaker 4: he legit or? Not the guy threw up three hundred
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Speaker 4: and forty seven, yards three, touchdowns, interceptions and our defense
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Speaker 4: he knocked. ON i Think Matt stafford was one for
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Speaker 4: eight on third, downs like we won the Game.
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Speaker 1: Stafford just for the, Record stafford. Had stafford averaged almost
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Speaker 1: eleven yards per pass and three, touchdowns no, interceptions one for.
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Speaker 4: Eight on third downs, though, okay he had three hundred six.
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Speaker 1: CARES i. LOVE i, mean, no you don't. Listen you
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Speaker 1: know you know. LISTEN i mean you're trying to defend
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Speaker 1: The seahawks. Defense they were. Horripen that is not a championship.
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Speaker 1: Defense they give up four hundred and seventy nine yards
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Speaker 1: to The.
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Speaker 5: Rams and what happened to home field advantage in the Twelfth?
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Speaker 5: Man and all that The rams in both games in
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Speaker 5: The rams supposedly great defense beats great. Offense The rams
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Speaker 5: dominated the absolutely dominated these last two games The Seattle
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Speaker 5: seahawks defense, offense which is better.
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Speaker 1: THAN i thought. THAT i thought The seahawks defense.
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Speaker 4: Was better than any other team in THE nfl this
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Speaker 4: year least amount of points scored against.
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Speaker 1: Them so the last time they played In, seattle The
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Speaker 1: rams had five hundred and eighty one yards of, Offense
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Speaker 1: so the sees we're better in this game only four
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine for The. Rams but what do
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Speaker 1: you want me to? Do but do you want me
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Speaker 1: to put on my palm poms for The seahawks and
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Speaker 1: my cheerleading outfit for The? Seahawks are?
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Speaker 4: You are you rooting for The patriots or The seahawks
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Speaker 4: and the SUPER.
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Speaker 1: I made my official announcement, Yet but you Think i'm
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Speaker 1: gonna pull For Sam?
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Speaker 4: Donald come, on well that's my, point, Man well why.
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Speaker 1: SHOULD i pull For Sam? DONALD i love That Sam
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Speaker 1: donald's been stealing money in THE nfl for, years and
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Speaker 1: all of a. Sudden we're supposed to, forget we're supposed
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Speaker 1: to Forgive Sam.
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Speaker 4: Donald but The seahawks defense the least amount of points
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Speaker 4: of ANY nfl.
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Speaker 1: TEAM i don't think they're that. GOOD i think they're.
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Speaker 1: Overrated this is not an all time great defense by The.
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Speaker 1: Seahawks it's just.
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Speaker 4: NOT i didn't say all. TIME i said all time
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Speaker 4: best for twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: Five, okay that's Why i'm not. Impressed you want me
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Speaker 1: to be. IMPRESSED i am not impressed with The Seattle.
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Speaker 1: Seahawks i've seen The rams completely slice them up from.
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Speaker 4: You what's that they just Knocked they just knocked.
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Speaker 1: Off THE ms? Twice oh? Please the first the game
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Speaker 1: In seattle was a give you The, No i'm not
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Speaker 1: giving you. Credit THE nfl gave you that. Game they
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Speaker 1: the game a phantom two point, CONVERSION a phantom two point.
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Speaker 1: Conversion you didn't hurt it if you were given two.
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