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- 0:01Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl, Jessica and Smith, and you already
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- 0:56Speaker 6: whatever day you decided to this audio. Hi Jessica, heyble
- 1:05Speaker 6: happy Thursday, Happy Thursday. Are you doing today? I am great?
- 1:10Speaker 6: You want to know why I'm a great girl. Before
- 1:13Speaker 6: I tell you why I'm great, let me ask you
- 1:15Speaker 6: how are you doing? I'm good? That's that's so? Is
- 1:20Speaker 6: that the truth? Are you looking for the truth? Plus
- 1:22Speaker 6: to carry the one? Okay, Ac, yep, that's the truth.
- 1:25Speaker 6: That's the truth. Okay. I'm glad that you're walking in
- 1:28Speaker 6: truth today. Today, and I'm excited because we we know
- 1:37Speaker 6: how old that they are. Listen, we are not liable,
- 1:39Speaker 6: but this should come with a disclaimer. This is okay,
- 1:43Speaker 6: this warning. You have entered a new realm. Okay, we're
- 1:48Speaker 6: super Buckle up because today is going to be a
- 1:52Speaker 6: day where I think some answers and some clarity is
- 1:56Speaker 6: going to be provided because these two souls that are
- 1:59Speaker 6: by a in front of us, beside us, around us
- 2:02Speaker 6: right now, they really understand the kingdom, all right. They
- 2:05Speaker 6: understand not only the kingdom, but how important it is
- 2:08Speaker 6: to do kingdom work and partnership and leaning out onto
- 2:12Speaker 6: their own understanding. Like if I mean, they walk the
- 2:16Speaker 6: words so heavy, it's just mind blowing. And so I
- 2:20Speaker 6: think that it's an honor and a privilege to have
- 2:24Speaker 6: our brothers our covering because our leader is definitely here
- 2:28Speaker 6: BG TV alright, Studios, I covering our brothers, mister Brad
- 2:33Speaker 6: Graydon and Pastor Leslie.
- 2:41Speaker 4: What was that I don't do anything.
- 2:52Speaker 6: I don't Yes, you do have a song. I love it. Listen.
- 2:56Speaker 6: I'm super excited for you guys to be here. Thank
- 2:59Speaker 6: you so much, y'all, y'all have seen Brad. You guys
- 3:03Speaker 6: have seen Brad. Was it last year, last year when
- 3:07Speaker 6: we talked about the bride? Yes, listen, that is his mark,
- 3:10Speaker 6: that is that is the testimony I love hearing. I
- 3:13Speaker 6: will never get tired of hearing the bg TV studio
- 3:17Speaker 6: how that came about, because if it wasn't for beg TV,
- 3:19Speaker 6: y'all listen, we would be out here homeless. Okay. Brad
- 3:24Speaker 6: took us when we were homeless, okay, and homeless and hungry.
- 3:29Speaker 4: I never heard of podcasts, but I got this picture
- 3:31Speaker 4: of a podcast walking on the streets.
- 3:34Speaker 6: Yes, that's literally what we were doing. It was it
- 3:37Speaker 6: was a little ratchet.
- 3:38Speaker 4: It was.
- 3:39Speaker 6: It was a little ratchet, but you took us in.
- 3:41Speaker 6: And then Pastor Leslie y'all have heard his name, y'all
- 3:43Speaker 6: haven't seen his face. This is the man who invited
- 3:46Speaker 6: me to come speak to the Love Lady Center and
- 3:48Speaker 6: I shared my testimony there and listen, he really you
- 3:53Speaker 6: know how we say in the streets, real recognized, real,
- 3:55Speaker 6: he recognized. Pastor Bleslie doesn't invite anybody that he doesn't
- 3:59Speaker 6: think that guys oil. So I think I got a
- 4:01Speaker 6: little oil if he invited me over that to the place. Listen,
- 4:05Speaker 6: I'm so excited for y'all to be here.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Great to be here. Y'all have been y'all have.
- 4:10Speaker 6: Been doing some phenomenal work. And it's centered around which
- 4:14Speaker 6: I want us to make make sure that we focus
- 4:16Speaker 6: on today is prayer because a lot of people our
- 4:20Speaker 6: community is driven towards like becoming the better version of
- 4:23Speaker 6: themselves in Kingdom matters right where transparency leads to transformation.
- 4:28Speaker 6: And I think a part of that transparency people don't
- 4:31Speaker 6: find it in prayer. How does transparency and prayer correlate? Well,
- 4:35Speaker 6: how would y'all say that?
- 4:38Speaker 2: Well, you know, for me, I think it's it's about
- 4:40Speaker 2: relationship and it's about getting comfortable in your skin. A
- 4:44Speaker 2: lot of times we're dealing with so much performance instead
- 4:49Speaker 2: of presence, and uh and I love I love prayer
- 4:52Speaker 2: because you know, you just kind of take out all
- 4:54Speaker 2: the performance and you just get into a place of
- 4:57Speaker 2: being known, being seen, being heard, just opening up your heart,
- 5:01Speaker 2: you know, because I love praying. I don't know about you,
- 5:03Speaker 2: but I pray like four point thirty in the morning.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I mean, before I get out of bed, I start
- 5:08Speaker 2: talking to the Lord in my pjs, you know what
- 5:12Speaker 2: I'm saying. Before I get my hair dead. I mean,
- 5:14Speaker 2: it's just and Brad does it like.
- 5:16Speaker 4: That my hair is already dead.
- 5:19Speaker 2: But I think I think the art of prayer is
- 5:23Speaker 2: is we've made it a tradition instead of something that
- 5:27Speaker 2: is the heartbeat of living a.
- 5:30Speaker 6: Life with God.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And it's communion and learning how to slow down a
- 5:34Speaker 2: little bit just to listen to God. Because God is,
- 5:39Speaker 2: He is present. It's just that we live in a
- 5:42Speaker 2: very loud world. Yeah, and it's hard to hear Him.
- 5:45Speaker 2: So for me, prayer it really it brings me into
- 5:50Speaker 2: the moment and it grounds me where I'm at. So
- 5:53Speaker 2: that if there's anything that I love to do and
- 5:56Speaker 2: love to encourage others to do, is to pray.
- 5:59Speaker 6: That's so good. I love you've said this before, Pastor Leslie,
- 6:03Speaker 6: is that we're moving from performance back to prayer. And
- 6:08Speaker 6: you guys have a project that you guys have been
- 6:11Speaker 6: doing and leading the city with at the fire Dome.
- 6:13Speaker 6: Can you talk to us about that, Brad about the
- 6:16Speaker 6: fire Dome? And then I want to connect what you
- 6:19Speaker 6: mentioned to us before about the prayer the prayer over performance.
- 6:23Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so. BGTV Studios. God told me to open
- 6:28Speaker 4: this up, the studio up that He's given me to
- 6:30Speaker 4: serve the body of Christ. Well, when we began to
- 6:34Speaker 4: do that, there was we got around twenty different podcasts
- 6:37Speaker 4: that were coming out of the studio and began to
- 6:39Speaker 4: see that God was building something different than what we thought.
- 6:44Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and so we were just
- 6:46Speaker 4: being obedient. But we got abound twenty podcasts and we
- 6:48Speaker 4: saw that they were all denominations, all races, all ages
- 6:52Speaker 4: that were coming together through this. And so he said,
- 6:54Speaker 4: all right, begin to meet and mingle once a quarter.
- 6:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 6:58Speaker 4: Well, as we did that, the studio kept growing and
- 7:02Speaker 4: we got to around forty forty five podcasts last year,
- 7:04Speaker 4: and we were like, all right, God, what is all
- 7:07Speaker 4: of this unity unto? Like, what do you want to
- 7:11Speaker 4: do with it? You know, like there's got to be
- 7:14Speaker 4: something more than just doing podcasts and you're building this
- 7:18Speaker 4: because I've never recruited one voice in the studio, right,
- 7:21Speaker 4: God has sent everyone and so he's building something. So
- 7:25Speaker 4: we began to pray, God, how do you want us
- 7:28Speaker 4: to steward the unity that you've brought to this ministry.
- 7:33Speaker 4: And as we prayed that, after about two or three months
- 7:36Speaker 4: of praying, God woke me up in the middle of
- 7:39Speaker 4: the night, and I just knew. There's times when you
- 7:43Speaker 4: wake up and you're like, you gotta decide to get
- 7:46Speaker 4: out of bed to go play, and then there's times
- 7:49Speaker 4: when you wake up and you're like, he wants to
- 7:51Speaker 4: talk to me, And so like I got up, I
- 7:54Speaker 4: knew he wanted to talk to me. I went into
- 7:56Speaker 4: my room where I spent time with the Lord, and
- 8:00Speaker 4: I sat down and said, right, Lord, what do you
- 8:02Speaker 4: want to say? And he spoke to me differently than
- 8:05Speaker 4: he normally does. I saw a picture just in the spirit.
- 8:11Speaker 4: I saw a picture of the Iron Dome over Israel,
- 8:14Speaker 4: where the Iron Dome is a literally a force field
- 8:17Speaker 4: that protects the city and the people from missiles that
- 8:20Speaker 4: the enemies, you know, launched into the city. Well, I said, okay, Lot,
- 8:25Speaker 4: I'm seeing this. What do you want me to do?
- 8:28Speaker 4: And he said, I want, through the unity that I've
- 8:31Speaker 4: sent to this ministry, I want y'all to build a
- 8:34Speaker 4: fire dome over the city of Birmingham, over the region
- 8:39Speaker 4: of Birmingham. He said, because revivals come into Birmingham. But
- 8:43Speaker 4: the first thing that we need to do is to
- 8:45Speaker 4: build the defense system so that when revival comes that
- 8:50Speaker 4: the missiles that the enemy is sending in aren't hitting target,
- 8:54Speaker 4: aren't hitting as much as they would without this fire dome.
- 8:58Speaker 4: And so I said and said, Lord, it sounds good.
- 9:01Speaker 4: I say, confirm it with your word, because like I was,
- 9:05Speaker 4: just like, this is big vision. Before I get all
- 9:07Speaker 4: these people involved in something like this, I need to
- 9:09Speaker 4: hear it and confirm it with your word. And I
- 9:11Speaker 4: heard clear as day read Zachariah chapter two, and I
- 9:15Speaker 4: was like what. I was like, I'm making this up.
- 9:18Speaker 4: You hear something that's zachari chapter two, you know. So
- 9:24Speaker 4: I turned Zachary chapter two and I get about five
- 9:27Speaker 4: verses down and my spirit jumps, my jaw drops, and
- 9:31Speaker 4: I'm like, in verse five says Lord. He says I
- 9:35Speaker 4: myself will be a wall of fire around the city,
- 9:38Speaker 4: declares the Lord, and my glory will be with them.
- 9:42Speaker 4: And I was like, God, this is what you want
- 9:45Speaker 4: to do, which is all I want to be a
- 9:47Speaker 4: part of. Is what he's doing. It involved with it.
- 9:49Speaker 4: You won't find me there, I got. We got no
- 9:51Speaker 4: time to mess around. It's going to be only what
- 9:54Speaker 4: he's doing.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:55Speaker 4: So I came to Less, I said, Leslie, this is
- 9:57Speaker 4: what I'm hearing. I I know it's wild. I get
- 10:01Speaker 4: you know, I said, but this is what I heard.
- 10:04Speaker 4: He said, Man, it sounds it sounds on in my spirit.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Let's begin to pray and just see. So we took
- 10:11Speaker 4: about a week or two to pray over it, and
- 10:13Speaker 4: he was like, I feel this, he said. So we
- 10:15Speaker 4: launched it in October at our big annual BGTV gathering
- 10:19Speaker 4: that we were doing to open it up and do
- 10:21Speaker 4: fired domes around the city at different places. And because
- 10:27Speaker 4: we're just kind of covering the region in prayer, We're
- 10:30Speaker 4: not trying to get a thousand people in a room.
- 10:32Speaker 4: We're trying to get a hundred or so people come
- 10:35Speaker 4: in a room who are hungry to pray over this city.
- 10:37Speaker 4: To build this fire doome. Because this fire dome it
- 10:40Speaker 4: protects your family. Yeah, my family, your ministry, my ministry,
- 10:45Speaker 4: your town, my town, you know, the whole city. It's
- 10:48Speaker 4: we all come in and all of our voices matter.
- 10:52Speaker 4: James five sixteen says that the prayers of a righteous
- 10:56Speaker 4: person are powerful and effective. I believe that that verse
- 11:00Speaker 4: alone can can literally send us in to revival. That
- 11:04Speaker 4: because when I hear that verse, it moves me to
- 11:06Speaker 4: pray like I know I'm righteous by the blood of Jesus,
- 11:09Speaker 4: given my life to Jesus, and then when I live
- 11:12Speaker 4: my life in purity preparing for him to come, I
- 11:15Speaker 4: feel like it's even double effective, you know. And so
- 11:18Speaker 4: I feel like when I'm on my knees praying and
- 11:20Speaker 4: i see that verse, like I read that verse a
- 11:21Speaker 4: lot of times before I go to pray, because it
- 11:24Speaker 4: inspires me. It gives me the spiritual jolt that I
- 11:27Speaker 4: need to get on my knees and to pray because
- 11:29Speaker 4: knowing that my prayers are effective. So we're just saying, people,
- 11:33Speaker 4: come out, come, come to these Fireedome meetings because your
- 11:38Speaker 4: voice matters, all of our voices gathered together in unity.
- 11:43Speaker 4: And when I say the presence of God is coming
- 11:46Speaker 4: in the room during these fire Dome meetings, it's unlike
- 11:49Speaker 4: anything I've ever experienced. I've been in ministry twenty seven years,
- 11:52Speaker 4: and the presence of God in the fireedome is absolutely amazing.
- 11:58Speaker 6: That's what I hear. And you said something I think
- 12:01Speaker 6: that is so powerful, and I think passilistically, I think
- 12:06Speaker 6: with your experience with the Love Lady Center, I think
- 12:09Speaker 6: you could really answer this in a healthy manner because
- 12:12Speaker 6: the scripture you just brought up with James, right, the
- 12:14Speaker 6: prayers of the righteous of Vylus much Right, what if
- 12:17Speaker 6: I'm not righteous? What if I don't know? And but
- 12:21Speaker 6: I'm being encouraged to talk to a God that I
- 12:23Speaker 6: don't think that deems me as righteous? How would you
- 12:26Speaker 6: respond to someone like that?
- 12:28Speaker 2: Well, obviously, you know this is where you know, we
- 12:32Speaker 2: share the gospel that you know that God loves each
- 12:34Speaker 2: and every one of us, and it's he went to
- 12:36Speaker 2: great links to express that love. And when you begin
- 12:40Speaker 2: to see the love of God at the measure with
- 12:44Speaker 2: which it's true, it's not about performance. It's just about
- 12:49Speaker 2: his desire to bring a relationship with us, breaking down
- 12:55Speaker 2: every wall. And if you look at the Gospel, you
- 12:57Speaker 2: see so many that were unapproachable and untouchable in the
- 13:02Speaker 2: in their culture, and yet the Lord approached them and
- 13:05Speaker 2: he touched them. And like the woman that broke her
- 13:09Speaker 2: alabaster box out of gratitude because Jesus touched her. And
- 13:13Speaker 2: so for us, you know the gospel that's alive, that
- 13:19Speaker 2: is it still works today. It communicates the mercy and forgiveness,
- 13:25Speaker 2: and so we share that love and then I let
- 13:29Speaker 2: them know like their value. I just I let them
- 13:32Speaker 2: know like God wants you, he loves you, He talked
- 13:36Speaker 2: to him because they've been looking for love in all
- 13:39Speaker 2: the wrong places and now they found someone who loves
- 13:43Speaker 2: them without conditions. And you can come to him just
- 13:47Speaker 2: as you are. And so the blood of price obviously
- 13:51Speaker 2: makes that, you know, a reality. But you know, you
- 13:54Speaker 2: have to walk people through that and encourage them. You know,
- 14:00Speaker 2: people that you don't have to have a prayer language
- 14:05Speaker 2: in order to pray.
- 14:06Speaker 6: And what do you mean by that, because some people
- 14:08Speaker 6: might not understand what you know.
- 14:11Speaker 2: If you ever heard somebody that has a prayer language,
- 14:13Speaker 2: this kind of sounds like this, Oh, blessed Father, I'm like, ho, whoa, whoa, Like,
- 14:24Speaker 2: why are you getting all like religious? Yeah, talk to
- 14:28Speaker 2: him from your heart, be genuine, be real, let him know,
- 14:33Speaker 2: like and so. And people want to be known, they
- 14:37Speaker 2: want to be heard, and we have a God that
- 14:40Speaker 2: is available for us. Two four seven. The very first
- 14:43Speaker 2: miracle that took place on the cross when Jesus gave
- 14:48Speaker 2: up the ghosts was an earthquake. An earthquake was the
- 14:52Speaker 2: first miracle that took place when he let go his spirit,
- 14:56Speaker 2: And it says the earth shook and it went all
- 14:59Speaker 2: the way down to the temple and it ripped from
- 15:01Speaker 2: top to bottom the veil that was separating man from God.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Because God is saying, I want to be near you,
- 15:09Speaker 2: I want to get my hands on you, I want
- 15:12Speaker 2: to get to know you. I'm breaking down this religious
- 15:15Speaker 2: system so you can get to know me better. So
- 15:18Speaker 2: that's what it's all about, man, and so letting these
- 15:21Speaker 2: girls know that that God is ready to have a
- 15:26Speaker 2: relationship with them, and then we just build in this
- 15:30Speaker 2: prayer life. I teach on prayer all the time. It's
- 15:32Speaker 2: a dialogue, not a monologue. And but our spirit is
- 15:39Speaker 2: has been has been moving so rapidly and fast with
- 15:43Speaker 2: the world system that we're doing stuff. We're doing stuff
- 15:48Speaker 2: with people, but but not getting to know them. And
- 15:55Speaker 2: I'll just say this real quick. My wife told me
- 15:57Speaker 2: one time, she's like, baby, we never spend time together.
- 16:00Speaker 2: I'm like, and we've been married for like fifteen years.
- 16:02Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about, girl, I'm like
- 16:04Speaker 2: here every day. She's like she's like, no, no, actually
- 16:11Speaker 2: we you know, I think we've been married about six years.
- 16:13Speaker 2: That's okay because we had two kids. And she's like,
- 16:18Speaker 2: you know, you're around me, but you're not with me.
- 16:21Speaker 2: And so for a man, for a moment, I was
- 16:24Speaker 2: like having a man moment. Okay, yeah, And so I
- 16:27Speaker 2: was learning, but God was about to show me something
- 16:29Speaker 2: through my wife. And she's said, you know, we were
- 16:33Speaker 2: doing stuff around each other, but not with each other
- 16:36Speaker 2: in the sense of hearing each other. So I came
- 16:40Speaker 2: home and I started sitting on this little small, miniature
- 16:45Speaker 2: couch in our living room. You know, you have your
- 16:47Speaker 2: regular couch and then you have a smaller one, you
- 16:50Speaker 2: know what you call that I love seat, And so
- 16:56Speaker 2: we got on the love seat and make play and
- 17:00Speaker 2: I come on. So I was like, how is your day?
- 17:05Speaker 2: And instead of like checking the next box, you know,
- 17:10Speaker 2: doing the dishes or whatever, you know, we started hearing
- 17:15Speaker 2: each other. How are you doing? And so I asked,
- 17:17Speaker 2: I tell people you need to go sit on the
- 17:19Speaker 2: love seat with God and ask him how his day was.
- 17:25Speaker 2: And then I mean, could you imagine, like the Bible
- 17:28Speaker 2: says David was a man after God's heart. A lot
- 17:31Speaker 2: of times we're thinking about about us and we're still
- 17:35Speaker 2: not thinking about him.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Wow.
- 17:38Speaker 2: And the Bible says that there's a prayer in heaven
- 17:41Speaker 2: there's different prayers that come from heaven, but one of
- 17:43Speaker 2: them was in Isaiah. And Isaiah you hear from the
- 17:46Speaker 2: throne of prayer request who will go for me? And
- 17:51Speaker 2: so we're always wanting God to answer our prayers. What
- 17:56Speaker 2: about us answering God's prayers?
- 17:59Speaker 6: Jesus, Jesus, does let me tell you something I told
- 18:04Speaker 6: you I'm over here, like he started getting out, I'm like, oh,
- 18:09Speaker 6: let me call down.
- 18:10Speaker 4: I feel a tong come out.
- 18:11Speaker 5: I feel like I want.
- 18:12Speaker 1: To start speaking in my heavenly language.
- 18:14Speaker 6: No, but I think that it's so good, and I
- 18:17Speaker 6: think that I want to make this elementary as possible
- 18:19Speaker 6: because sometimes, like you said, everybody has a pre language
- 18:23Speaker 6: and blah blah blah blah blah. And I was one
- 18:25Speaker 6: of those ones that thought I had to sound like
- 18:27Speaker 6: you know, just now, I'm fiery, just naturally, like I'm
- 18:30Speaker 6: just you gonna get the fire.
- 18:32Speaker 2: But to have to.
- 18:33Speaker 6: Sound a certain way to for God to hear me
- 18:36Speaker 6: and appreciate my voice, right, Like, why wouldn't God appreciate
- 18:42Speaker 6: the thing that he actually created? Why when God it's
- 18:44Speaker 6: a sound, Oh, I feel like help coming. But it's
- 18:48Speaker 6: a sound that God literally placed in our DNA and
- 18:52Speaker 6: when we come together with the sound is music to
- 18:56Speaker 6: his ears. I was just listening to a TEDx talk
- 18:59Speaker 6: and basically the young lady was talking about how people
- 19:04Speaker 6: think they need to know how to sing, how to
- 19:06Speaker 6: write a song or whatever, with really their life is
- 19:08Speaker 6: a song and if they really look at it, it's
- 19:11Speaker 6: the best song that you could deliver to people because
- 19:14Speaker 6: it frees different people. And that's what I'm thinking about
- 19:16Speaker 6: with God. It's like if you don't if you don't
- 19:19Speaker 6: open your mouth and communicate with me, I don't get
- 19:21Speaker 6: to hear my song.
- 19:22Speaker 4: Yes, I don't.
- 19:23Speaker 6: Get to hear the worship. I don't get to hear
- 19:25Speaker 6: how how my creation responding back to me. And I
- 19:31Speaker 6: think that what you just said just kind of like
- 19:34Speaker 6: open me up in a whole different level. And so
- 19:37Speaker 6: I think an opportunity that some of us have, especially
- 19:41Speaker 6: if we've gone astray, to like, Okay, what do I say?
- 19:44Speaker 6: How do I approach God? Especially when I feel I
- 19:47Speaker 6: feel like I'm still wearing the fig leaves instead of
- 19:49Speaker 6: walking around like we originally nick it, like like Adam was.
- 19:54Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, though, That's a good transition
- 19:56Speaker 4: to what I felt like that the Lord woman to say.
- 19:59Speaker 4: This is like in the garden, there was no worship music,
- 20:07Speaker 4: there was no Bible, there was no churches, there was nothing.
- 20:13Speaker 4: So God came down in the cool of the day
- 20:17Speaker 4: to meet with Adam with the He walked with them
- 20:21Speaker 4: in the cool of the day. So he would come
- 20:23Speaker 4: down at this certain point of the day and they knew, Hey,
- 20:25Speaker 4: this is my time to come and just commune with God,
- 20:28Speaker 4: to walk with him. And so my favorite way to
- 20:35Speaker 4: spend time with the Lord to pray. So prayer literally
- 20:38Speaker 4: is just a conversation with God. Like if you want
- 20:40Speaker 4: to make it as simple as possible, it's just a
- 20:42Speaker 4: conversation with God. But my literal favorite way to talk
- 20:46Speaker 4: with God, to communicate with God is to go on
- 20:48Speaker 4: a walk. And so I started doing this, I don't know,
- 20:52Speaker 4: fifteen years ago where I would find a place and
- 20:57Speaker 4: there was this place where I started doing it was
- 20:59Speaker 4: like besides this and I would walk down this creek
- 21:03Speaker 4: alongside the creek for about twenty minutes and I would
- 21:07Speaker 4: talk to God. If you're asking, like what do I
- 21:11Speaker 4: say to God? How do I communicate with him? Like
- 21:13Speaker 4: I would just tell him what was on my heart,
- 21:16Speaker 4: what I was feeling and just begin to talk to him.
- 21:19Speaker 4: And as I walked with him for twenty minutes, I
- 21:22Speaker 4: would talk, but when I got to a certain place,
- 21:25Speaker 4: I would turn around and I would say, all right, God,
- 21:27Speaker 4: now I want you to talk to me. I want
- 21:30Speaker 4: to listen. And so the way back I wouldn't say anything.
- 21:35Speaker 4: I would just listen to him and in that community
- 21:39Speaker 4: with God. When I started doing that, I began to
- 21:42Speaker 4: hear his voice. I began to understand what his voice
- 21:45Speaker 4: sounds like, how he communicates to me. And I began
- 21:50Speaker 4: to hear him and walk with him. And so I
- 21:52Speaker 4: think that it's just learning to sit and listen. And
- 21:56Speaker 4: so I've been able to take that now because this
- 22:00Speaker 4: is one thing that people understand, is like they you know,
- 22:03Speaker 4: the cool of the day for you, Like God knows
- 22:07Speaker 4: the moment in your like right now, like your schedule
- 22:10Speaker 4: today is different than it was five years ago. Career, Okay,
- 22:14Speaker 4: so he comes down the cool of the day for you,
- 22:18Speaker 4: is it different a different moment for you now than
- 22:21Speaker 4: it was five years ago. There's a moment during your day.
- 22:25Speaker 4: He knows that you have this time for him, but
- 22:29Speaker 4: you have to choose to walk with him at that time,
- 22:34Speaker 4: at the moment during your day, or if you're watching,
- 22:37Speaker 4: maybe you're a single mom, or maybe you're like my
- 22:40Speaker 4: wife who's eight months pregnant has a toddler at home,
- 22:42Speaker 4: Like when does she have time to spend with the Lord.
- 22:46Speaker 4: There's a moment for everybody in everybody's day, and the
- 22:50Speaker 4: Lord knows when that is, and that's when he's gonna
- 22:53Speaker 4: come down. And now you have the opportunity to walk
- 22:58Speaker 4: with him in that moment or I'm not gonna do
- 23:01Speaker 4: it today, but he's going to come down every day
- 23:06Speaker 4: and the clue of the day, whatever that is for you, okay.
- 23:10Speaker 4: And so he's not like, well, I can't believe you're
- 23:12Speaker 4: not meeting with me like you did last year at
- 23:13Speaker 4: this time. He knows your schedule. He gave you your job,
- 23:17Speaker 4: he gave you your family, he gave you all these things,
- 23:20Speaker 4: and so he knows. So what what I do is
- 23:23Speaker 4: every day, like okay, I go before like before I
- 23:26Speaker 4: wake up and get my Okay, usually the night before
- 23:29Speaker 4: I'm like, this is where my schedule's like tomorrow, this
- 23:34Speaker 4: is the time I know I'm gonna I'm gonna spend
- 23:36Speaker 4: time with the Lord.
- 23:38Speaker 6: So basically, what you just said is so powerful because,
- 23:42Speaker 6: for one, I think that we've had an opportunity as
- 23:47Speaker 6: believers to appropriate what you just said with people that's
- 23:50Speaker 6: looking to be more intentional with it prayer life. And
- 23:54Speaker 6: so I think that when I started praying, like being
- 23:58Speaker 6: really seeking God, I was told that, you know, choose
- 24:01Speaker 6: a time, and earlier the better. It's like start your
- 24:04Speaker 6: day with God and all that stuff like that. And
- 24:06Speaker 6: I'm a literal person, like I was like taking it
- 24:08Speaker 6: so literal and I knew what they meant. Well, now
- 24:12Speaker 6: I know what they meant by it, but but at
- 24:14Speaker 6: that time, I was like, Okay, I got to get
- 24:15Speaker 6: up at six o'clock not only my praying, but I'm
- 24:17Speaker 6: reading my word. And at that point I struggle with
- 24:20Speaker 6: the reading part and then I'm sleepy. So it's like
- 24:23Speaker 6: I'm like, no one's telling me, like the real at
- 24:26Speaker 6: least brush the t watstake takes it out. I'm thinking
- 24:29Speaker 6: I can't do any of that. But in reality, the Lord,
- 24:33Speaker 6: like you say, the cool of the day, the things
- 24:35Speaker 6: where I don't I'm not distracted. I know this time
- 24:37Speaker 6: is set aside for God. I'm not interrupting this right,
- 24:40Speaker 6: So that means I need structure to my day that
- 24:43Speaker 6: gives me makes me a steward of my time and
- 24:47Speaker 6: not just everything else. You get what I'm saying. So
- 24:50Speaker 6: I think that there's a point of freedom for people
- 24:53Speaker 6: to know that there's a cool of the day and
- 24:55Speaker 6: whatever your cool of the day is, what your cool
- 24:57Speaker 6: of the day is, and God will enter into that
- 24:59Speaker 6: space and say, okay, it's our time now.
- 25:01Speaker 4: Yeah, And let me give you an example. So like
- 25:03Speaker 4: when I first I got say when I was eight
- 25:06Speaker 4: years old, about straight from the Lord from like seventeen
- 25:09Speaker 4: to twenty one or so, and had four years of
- 25:13Speaker 4: going through hell. But so when I came back to
- 25:16Speaker 4: the Lord, I was working at Sears in the hardware department,
- 25:19Speaker 4: let's go, selling tools. But when I was there and
- 25:23Speaker 4: I had friends that I loved, and we would go
- 25:26Speaker 4: out to eat every day at lunch and just hang out,
- 25:30Speaker 4: I have a good time, just get trouble, you know,
- 25:31Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. Well, all of a sudden,
- 25:36Speaker 4: I beg I started turning my life back to the
- 25:38Speaker 4: Lord and I had this desire to spend time with him.
- 25:44Speaker 4: So when I was at work, what I did was
- 25:47Speaker 4: instead of going to lunch with my friends for that hour,
- 25:51Speaker 4: I began to take a sack lunch, my Bible in
- 25:54Speaker 4: this book that God was using to speak into my life,
- 25:57Speaker 4: and I would get in my car at lunch to
- 26:00Speaker 4: the back of the parking lot, faced away from distraction,
- 26:05Speaker 4: and I just began to eat my sandwich and read
- 26:08Speaker 4: the Bible in that book and talk and pray with God. Well,
- 26:11Speaker 4: when I started doing that every day at lunch, that
- 26:14Speaker 4: was the cool of the day for me, Like my
- 26:18Speaker 4: relationship with God began to skyrocket because I was taking
- 26:24Speaker 4: that opportunity that He showed me. Now, I could have
- 26:26Speaker 4: gone to lunch with all my friends continue to do that,
- 26:28Speaker 4: but I was sacrificing that to spend with Him and
- 26:31Speaker 4: to grow close to him. So that's an example of
- 26:34Speaker 4: what the cool of the day may look like for
- 26:36Speaker 4: you in a busy schedule. Well, everybody gets lunched sometime.
- 26:41Speaker 4: I can use that time as well to spend time
- 26:42Speaker 4: with the Lord.
- 26:43Speaker 2: You know.
- 26:43Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like you got something to say.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just want to say this, like, I'm
- 26:49Speaker 2: not necessarily a creature of habit. I am a spontaneous
- 26:53Speaker 2: person and so I love different locations, and I love
- 26:58Speaker 2: different body language, and I and I talk about that.
- 27:02Speaker 2: You know, obviously Jesus went to the mountain to pray.
- 27:05Speaker 2: We find in Matthew six six he says, enter into
- 27:08Speaker 2: your closet and pray. It says one passage in acts
- 27:13Speaker 2: that that Peter went on top of the roof and pray.
- 27:18Speaker 2: And so because of that, I was, I'm gonna try
- 27:21Speaker 2: all that, you know, do that. So my first thing
- 27:23Speaker 2: that I did when I when I found Jesus was
- 27:26Speaker 2: I had this little coat closet that I emptied out
- 27:29Speaker 2: and it didn't even have a light in it, and
- 27:32Speaker 2: it was total darkness. But I put a little chair
- 27:34Speaker 2: in there and you close it and the knee like
- 27:35Speaker 2: the door would hit your knees. It was like that tight, right,
- 27:39Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, God, I'm in the closet now,
- 27:41Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so but then, you know,
- 27:45Speaker 2: as time went on, I started exploring different ways to
- 27:49Speaker 2: experience the Lord, and I love. There's a mountain that
- 27:53Speaker 2: I started going to that i'd love to go and
- 27:57Speaker 2: actually it overlooks the city of Birmingham, and so I
- 28:00Speaker 2: would take a hike and there's this huge rock and
- 28:04Speaker 2: I go out and just you know, make a spot
- 28:06Speaker 2: right there and have communion with the Lord and h
- 28:11Speaker 2: And so sometimes for those that kind of get in
- 28:15Speaker 2: a routine or a rut, it's sometimes you need to
- 28:17Speaker 2: kind of try a little something, you know, a little
- 28:20Speaker 2: something going on a little date with Jesus to freshen
- 28:26Speaker 2: it up. And uh and and you can see it
- 28:29Speaker 2: in the Word that people had a relationship with God
- 28:33Speaker 2: and in different ways that they connected to him. So
- 28:36Speaker 2: in as far as body language, some people like to kneel,
- 28:40Speaker 2: some people like to just sit quietly, some people like
- 28:43Speaker 2: to walk and pray. You know, there's just there's this
- 28:47Speaker 2: There's no way you can put it in a box.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I think so many times that we as young Christians,
- 28:53Speaker 2: we feel like there's a formula that I've got to follow.
- 28:57Speaker 2: And yet the Lord, like you said, is kind of
- 28:59Speaker 2: like he wants He don't want us to become an echo.
- 29:02Speaker 2: He wants us to be a voice and get comfortable.
- 29:06Speaker 4: In our skin.
- 29:08Speaker 2: And so the cool of the day, like for my wife,
- 29:11Speaker 2: she's a night out and I wake up before the rooster, right,
- 29:15Speaker 2: and so her best time, a lot of time to
- 29:18Speaker 2: spend with God was at night time. We've always been
- 29:21Speaker 2: told why when you first get up, you better meet
- 29:23Speaker 2: with the Lord.
- 29:24Speaker 6: Right.
- 29:24Speaker 2: But some people that like they don't get up when
- 29:26Speaker 2: they get that's not the that's not their best. Yeah,
- 29:30Speaker 2: and that's so good and so so you just kind
- 29:34Speaker 2: of figure out what's your good sweet spot. And but
- 29:38Speaker 2: it is important. It's something that we don't want to
- 29:41Speaker 2: over overlook. And anybody can do it. I mean, just
- 29:47Speaker 2: like just start, just open up your heart. A lot
- 29:51Speaker 2: of times the atmosphere kind of helps you know, whether
- 29:55Speaker 2: you put on soft music, candlelight with Jesus, you know
- 30:00Speaker 2: how to set the tone or like like Brad said,
- 30:03Speaker 2: you know kind of get away from the crowd so
- 30:06Speaker 2: that you can kind of have, you know, a time
- 30:08Speaker 2: along with God. So it's been a journey and I
- 30:11Speaker 2: still discover new things about it all the time.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:14Speaker 6: I love I love that you advocate for prayer and
- 30:18Speaker 6: that you guys are really involved in the levels of it.
- 30:22Speaker 6: And so because there are levels, there are people that's
- 30:24Speaker 6: probably listening to and say, Okay, I got the basics part.
- 30:28Speaker 6: I can go with the cooler day, But I feel
- 30:30Speaker 6: like I'm being called to a prayer assignment aka maybe intercession.
- 30:34Speaker 6: What does that look like? What does that responsibility look like,
- 30:37Speaker 6: and how do I know I'm called to that space?
- 30:41Speaker 4: Yeah, this is good, I think. So this is just
- 30:43Speaker 4: an example of like what an assignment that God gave
- 30:48Speaker 4: me just this week kind of bring up this is
- 30:53Speaker 4: I was sitting around somebody that's close to me and
- 30:57Speaker 4: I look over at this person and the Lord says,
- 31:02Speaker 4: stand in the gap for him, And I was like, WHOA,
- 31:06Speaker 4: Like it was an assignment, you know what I'm saying.
- 31:09Speaker 4: And so like in Ezekie Old twenty two it says
- 31:13Speaker 4: I looked for someone among them who would build up
- 31:16Speaker 4: the wall and stand before me in the gap on
- 31:19Speaker 4: behalf of the land, so I would not have to
- 31:22Speaker 4: destroy it. But I found new one. So sometimes the
- 31:25Speaker 4: Lord is looking for people to stand in the gap
- 31:29Speaker 4: for a person. Sometimes he's looking for people to stand
- 31:33Speaker 4: in the gap for a family or for a ministry,
- 31:36Speaker 4: or sometimes he's looking for people to stand in the
- 31:38Speaker 4: gap for a city, for a land. And so there
- 31:42Speaker 4: are assignments that the Lord gives to people. And so
- 31:46Speaker 4: sometimes you can start small and then just pray. I
- 31:50Speaker 4: like to take levels, So like this is a level,
- 31:52Speaker 4: like maybe you can wrap your head around I can
- 31:54Speaker 4: stand in the gap for one person. You know to
- 31:56Speaker 4: give you an example. So I just started this on
- 31:58Speaker 4: May first. This person has been on my heart and
- 32:00Speaker 4: every morning I'm waking up or when I get a chance,
- 32:03Speaker 4: and I'm literally going in and interceding for this one person.
- 32:07Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be praying until I see God do something.
- 32:12Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. Because my prayers are powerful
- 32:14Speaker 4: and effective. So I and so there is going to
- 32:18Speaker 4: be movement, and I expect to get calls or to
- 32:20Speaker 4: see different like soon because I'm doing what God asked
- 32:25Speaker 4: me to do for this person, you know what I'm saying,
- 32:27Speaker 4: And so it gives me also have when you can
- 32:29Speaker 4: build your faith building sometimes on experience, experiences that you've
- 32:35Speaker 4: had in the past that were positive, you know what
- 32:38Speaker 4: I'm saying. So back in like two thousand and eight,
- 32:41Speaker 4: I was praying. I just felt to pray for my
- 32:43Speaker 4: cousin who lives like two hours away, and I was
- 32:48Speaker 4: in part of this ministry that God was moving and
- 32:51Speaker 4: I just said I just felt like God. I said, God,
- 32:53Speaker 4: I just want him to come experience what you're doing here,
- 32:56Speaker 4: and I want his life to be changed. And so
- 32:59Speaker 4: I've been to pray for him every day and in
- 33:03Speaker 4: like two months in, I get a random call from him.
- 33:06Speaker 4: We don't talk all the time, and he's like, man,
- 33:08Speaker 4: I just got a random call. I mean, he said,
- 33:10Speaker 4: I just got a call from my boss and I
- 33:12Speaker 4: just got fired because of this craziness that happened and
- 33:15Speaker 4: this and that, and I just said, man, I said,
- 33:18Speaker 4: why don't you move to Birmingham. I got a place.
- 33:20Speaker 4: So I said, I got a guy that gives you
- 33:22Speaker 4: the same type of job. You can come live with me.
- 33:25Speaker 4: And so he literally he said, let me pray about it.
- 33:29Speaker 4: He said, let me think about it. He said, came
- 33:30Speaker 4: a week. A week later, he moved into my house,
- 33:32Speaker 4: got him a job, and then his life began to change.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Like he was involved with going on, He got his kids,
- 33:40Speaker 4: He'd being to raise his kids up. You know, I'll
- 33:43Speaker 4: come home at night, he'd be doing homework with his kids.
- 33:46Speaker 4: This is something that he was living a life of
- 33:48Speaker 4: the world. Yeah, because I took time to stand in
- 33:51Speaker 4: the gap for one person and to pray for this
- 33:54Speaker 4: one person, like his life changed.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:57Speaker 4: So I feel like if we could like stir each
- 33:59Speaker 4: other up and and spur one another on to pray,
- 34:03Speaker 4: Let's just start with one person. Pray for that one
- 34:06Speaker 4: person that God puts on your heart until their life
- 34:10Speaker 4: is changing. Yes, Like if we would all just do that,
- 34:14Speaker 4: we can do that.
- 34:15Speaker 6: Yeah, what I heard what you just said though, two,
- 34:18Speaker 6: And that's this is an interesting point in my mind.
- 34:22Speaker 6: Sometimes we leave it at prayer. What I heard you
- 34:25Speaker 6: say is not only did God have you pray for him,
- 34:28Speaker 6: but in the midst of that, he prepared your heart
- 34:30Speaker 6: to help him when the prayer was time to have
- 34:32Speaker 6: be answered. And I think that there is a gap
- 34:37Speaker 6: for people that's interason see them but not being ready
- 34:40Speaker 6: to be the answer for the intercessions. And it's like
- 34:45Speaker 6: how I think the I think that has a lot
- 34:48Speaker 6: to do with faith. Would you would you say that,
- 34:50Speaker 6: like all all I have to offer on my words
- 34:52Speaker 6: and not being the space for somebody to be be
- 34:58Speaker 6: in the country a conducive space to where they can
- 35:02Speaker 6: manage their salvation, because I think that's also a thing
- 35:05Speaker 6: that a respect as mature believers. I'm not saying people
- 35:08Speaker 6: that just you know what I'm saying, as mature believers,
- 35:11Speaker 6: they can discern the timing of God discern because we're
- 35:15Speaker 6: not called to do it for everybody, right, but we
- 35:17Speaker 6: are called not to just be prayer warriors, but to
- 35:20Speaker 6: be the answer because God is the answer and we're
- 35:22Speaker 6: the evidence of God. And I think that's so important
- 35:25Speaker 6: that you said, not only did I pray, but when
- 35:27Speaker 6: it was time, I invited them in.
- 35:30Speaker 4: Got them. My job got And so the things is
- 35:32Speaker 4: it is like when your faith becomes active, James says
- 35:36Speaker 4: in the book, James says that your faith without action
- 35:40Speaker 4: is dead. So there's a lot of people going to wonder,
- 35:42Speaker 4: I'm my faith is not alive. It's not feeling a lot.
- 35:45Speaker 4: It's because your faith is not active. You're not doing
- 35:48Speaker 4: anything that's so good. And so like what happens is
- 35:50Speaker 4: that people are Sometimes they get the place where they're
- 35:53Speaker 4: mature enough to where they'll pray, but there's another level
- 35:56Speaker 4: of maturity going, hey, I'll take on spiritual response ability.
- 36:01Speaker 4: And that's what people run from, is they're like, well,
- 36:03Speaker 4: I'm gonna get to this line. I want toe the
- 36:05Speaker 4: line to hear. But if I cross this line, now
- 36:07Speaker 4: I have to take on spiritual responsibility. Jesus, I have
- 36:10Speaker 4: to do something. You know what I'm saying, Well, you
- 36:11Speaker 4: can't have kids in the physical without taking on responsibility
- 36:16Speaker 4: to raise them. Yeah, well you can't take on. You
- 36:19Speaker 4: can't have spirit people in the spirit being born again
- 36:23Speaker 4: or growing or coming back home without taking on some
- 36:27Speaker 4: type of spiritual responsibility to help them grow and disciple them.
- 36:31Speaker 4: And so I think that's another thing that people dodge. Yeah,
- 36:34Speaker 4: is they're dodging spiritual responsibility.
- 36:36Speaker 6: I'll pray, but somebody else can do the work. You
- 36:40Speaker 6: do the work, Like what did you tell us the
- 36:42Speaker 6: other a few months ago? The harvest is principle, but
- 36:46Speaker 6: the laborers are a few. That makes me think about that.
- 36:48Speaker 6: But this is coming up past the lesslie. I feel
- 36:51Speaker 6: like this is a good one for you. I don't know.
- 36:53Speaker 6: I just I'll be scared. It's had to pass. Listen,
- 36:55Speaker 6: But I feel like I'm about to get around wake up.
- 36:59Speaker 6: But no, So, what happens when my prayers aren't answered?
- 37:02Speaker 6: I've done the righteous, I've been in the righteous, I've
- 37:05Speaker 6: been in the space we've God, I've been doing, and
- 37:08Speaker 6: what happened? But what happens when I don't see the
- 37:11Speaker 6: evidence of what I've been praying for?
- 37:13Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that the Bible tells us that
- 37:17Speaker 2: we sow in faith, and we we plant seeds, but
- 37:21Speaker 2: it's God that gives the increase, and his timing is
- 37:25Speaker 2: not always our timing. It's sometimes it's a timing issue.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Some of the things that we're gonna that we're doing
- 37:31Speaker 2: for the Lord might not be seen till the second
- 37:35Speaker 2: or third generation. It gets way beyond us. If we
- 37:39Speaker 2: know that what we do is not we're not laboring
- 37:41Speaker 2: in vain. And every seed that we sow, every prayer
- 37:45Speaker 2: that we pray, whether it is answered in our time
- 37:49Speaker 2: or not, it doesn't matter. We have prayed the prayers
- 37:52Speaker 2: that God has given us. And I think that's one
- 37:55Speaker 2: other thing that I would say about prayer, because if
- 37:58Speaker 2: it goes beyond a shop list and beyond okay, God,
- 38:03Speaker 2: I need you to do this, this, and this, because
- 38:05Speaker 2: we look at him sometimes instead of a heavenly father,
- 38:08Speaker 2: we look at him as a sugar daddy. And because
- 38:12Speaker 2: of that, we just think, you know, if we can
- 38:16Speaker 2: rub the if we can rub him the right way, Jesus,
- 38:20Speaker 2: But he's not like that. So I think even coming
- 38:23Speaker 2: to prayer, you know, we've often heard this Brad that
- 38:27Speaker 2: you don't don't worry about what you're going to tell
- 38:29Speaker 2: somebody on sharing your faith. The Holy Spirit will give
- 38:33Speaker 2: you the words to say in that moment. But a
- 38:36Speaker 2: lot of times we don't think about that in prayer.
- 38:38Speaker 2: But the Bible tells us in Romans eight twenty six,
- 38:41Speaker 2: when we don't know how to pray for things as
- 38:43Speaker 2: we ought, the spirit helps us. And so I think
- 38:47Speaker 2: there's a journey of going into this place of maturing
- 38:52Speaker 2: in the way that we pray, in the way that
- 38:54Speaker 2: we talk, and what we ask for. Oftentimes we're thinking
- 38:59Speaker 2: about our our immediate needs, but the Bible says, seek
- 39:03Speaker 2: the Kingdom of God first, and then all these other
- 39:07Speaker 2: things will be added to you in his time. Now
- 39:11Speaker 2: to go back to just the question at hand, what
- 39:16Speaker 2: happens when you know that loved one you prayed for
- 39:19Speaker 2: doesn't get their healing, or you know that marriage doesn't
- 39:23Speaker 2: get repaired. You know, the Bible says that God wishes
- 39:27Speaker 2: that none would perish. God also is sad about some
- 39:33Speaker 2: things that don't happen. He wishes that people would would forgive.
- 39:39Speaker 2: He wants things to happen. But God has given man
- 39:43Speaker 2: will a will, and sometimes things don't work out the
- 39:46Speaker 2: way that we want them to. And I'm gonna say this,
- 39:51Speaker 2: there's some things that happen that it wasn't God's desire
- 39:54Speaker 2: for that to happen either, so he gets sad with
- 39:58Speaker 2: us as well. So I feel like, if we realize
- 40:00Speaker 2: that God is just for us, yeah you know what
- 40:03Speaker 2: I mean, and we can come into agreement and we
- 40:05Speaker 2: can believe and and sometimes we see those breakthroughs and
- 40:10Speaker 2: those answers and then we rejoice. But there's gonna be
- 40:14Speaker 2: times in our life that we go through disappointments.
- 40:16Speaker 6: And I want to bring up one of those disappointments
- 40:18Speaker 6: that we all know about, Brad, if you don't mind,
- 40:23Speaker 6: because watching you and Haley go through what y'all went
- 40:28Speaker 6: through last year on losing your child, right, I think
- 40:32Speaker 6: I think I was, I'm gonna be transparent. I was
- 40:35Speaker 6: so I questioned my prayers. I'm not even gonna lie,
- 40:41Speaker 6: and I think that we're honest with that. People can
- 40:44Speaker 6: like connect with this like I was.
- 40:47Speaker 4: I was.
- 40:47Speaker 6: I was. I wasn't broken to the point where I
- 40:50Speaker 6: didn't believe in God, but I was like, but God,
- 40:52Speaker 6: he's he's sold out for you, he is they're sold
- 40:55Speaker 6: off for you. He gave you another level of a yes,
- 40:57Speaker 6: and and why does he have an experience? I had
- 40:59Speaker 6: a lot of questions and I can only imagine for you,
- 41:02Speaker 6: being as close knit as you are to him, how
- 41:05Speaker 6: much pain that was for you. But you experienced it
- 41:08Speaker 6: like you've given God an unapologetic yes, and even to
- 41:12Speaker 6: this day you have not waivered. And so how how
- 41:16Speaker 6: did you journey knowing that you prayed for something and
- 41:20Speaker 6: it didn't happen, such as losing a child?
- 41:23Speaker 4: Yeah, you know those are questions that you that we
- 41:27Speaker 4: all have when when we put it all on the
- 41:30Speaker 4: line and and God doesn't grant that request that we're asking.
- 41:34Speaker 4: And so for those that don't know, Uh, me and
- 41:38Speaker 4: my wife had a baby last year that was born
- 41:41Speaker 4: with we thought was just hydrocephalus and which is just
- 41:47Speaker 4: flewid on the brain. What they thought this would put
- 41:48Speaker 4: a shunt in and everything was going to be fine.
- 41:51Speaker 4: Well day by day nine that it wasn't. They weren't
- 41:54Speaker 4: able to wean her off, and so they did another
- 41:57Speaker 4: MRI and when I say, we are off of the
- 42:00Speaker 4: later and so kind to find out that two thirds
- 42:05Speaker 4: of her brainstem didn't develop. So we knew at that
- 42:10Speaker 4: moment that we were gonna have to pick a day
- 42:12Speaker 4: to tell her bye. So that's the story. Well, backing
- 42:17Speaker 4: up to twenty weeks into the pregnancies. When we found
- 42:21Speaker 4: out that she had some brain issues, well, we began
- 42:25Speaker 4: to just go all out in prayer. And my wife
- 42:29Speaker 4: has been through a tough season even before that, but
- 42:33Speaker 4: this even stirred her to get close to the Lord
- 42:38Speaker 4: and begin to believe in the Word and to pray.
- 42:40Speaker 4: I mean, we had scriptures like literally all over the wall,
- 42:44Speaker 4: like just praying and believing, and we pray every every night,
- 42:48Speaker 4: every morning, and and so to answer your question, sometimes
- 42:54Speaker 4: we just don't get the answers that we want on
- 42:58Speaker 4: this side because God chose not to heal our baby.
- 43:08Speaker 4: But it's in those moments that peep your faith. I
- 43:21Speaker 4: don't even know how to really it is to word it,
- 43:23Speaker 4: but like your faith is on a billboard for people
- 43:29Speaker 4: to see, you know. And God just told me, he said,
- 43:33Speaker 4: Brad Macy, she lived every day that I designed her
- 43:41Speaker 4: to live like she she It says in the Bible
- 43:44Speaker 4: that all of our days are numbered, so hers was
- 43:49Speaker 4: numbered at seventeen, at seventeen days, and so to know
- 43:56Speaker 4: that she lived her full life that God designed her
- 43:59Speaker 4: to live. And so I didn't know why God chose
- 44:05Speaker 4: not to heal her when we went all in and
- 44:07Speaker 4: I was scared, and I was honestly was scared of
- 44:12Speaker 4: what it was gonna do to thank you, it was
- 44:17Speaker 4: gonna do to my wife and her relationship with the Lord,
- 44:22Speaker 4: you know. But when we were sitting there and we
- 44:26Speaker 4: received the news, you know, with all the neurosurgeons and
- 44:33Speaker 4: doctors and everybody came in there on that ninth day
- 44:35Speaker 4: to tell us that her brain stem didn't develop all
- 44:40Speaker 4: the way and that we have to tell her goodbye.
- 44:42Speaker 4: When when they all left the room, it was just
- 44:44Speaker 4: me and Haley left in there with Macy, and we
- 44:48Speaker 4: were just stunned. But it wasn't me that spoke up first,
- 44:54Speaker 4: like Haley broke the silence. The first words that were
- 44:59Speaker 4: uttered into the atmosphere after hearing that news was Haley,
- 45:05Speaker 4: and she said, thank you God forgiveness our child and
- 45:10Speaker 4: forgiven us these days that you've given us. And so
- 45:14Speaker 4: sometimes things happen. We know God didn't decide to take
- 45:21Speaker 4: her to strengthen Haley, but at the same time she
- 45:25Speaker 4: was her faith was strengthened inside of there. And there
- 45:27Speaker 4: were so many people that came to us afterwards, daring
- 45:32Speaker 4: and everything, saying my faith was strengthened and inspired by
- 45:36Speaker 4: the way that you handled it, and you handled this,
- 45:40Speaker 4: you know, and so we don't have we won't get
- 45:45Speaker 4: all the answers that we want. This, So when you
- 45:49Speaker 4: when you pray and things don't happen, that shouldn't waver
- 45:53Speaker 4: your faith because your faith is in Jesus because of
- 45:58Speaker 4: what he's done for you. Yeah, not like let's he's saying,
- 46:02Speaker 4: it's not a we we can pray and rub the
- 46:06Speaker 4: genie bottle. We were rubbing that to you a bottle
- 46:09Speaker 4: a lot, but that didn't come.
- 46:14Speaker 2: But to.
- 46:17Speaker 4: Know that that so you can't grow in the physical
- 46:22Speaker 4: without having pressure to you know, when you work out
- 46:26Speaker 4: well your spiritual muscles. Also you get the opportunity to
- 46:29Speaker 4: prove to yourself, to the Lord and to everybody around you,
- 46:35Speaker 4: why you're really following him.
- 46:37Speaker 2: That's so good.
- 46:39Speaker 4: And I wasn't following him because he could give me
- 46:44Speaker 4: things or he could do something for me, Like I
- 46:47Speaker 4: followed Jesus because I love him because of what he's done,
- 46:55Speaker 4: because while I was a sinner, like he loved me
- 46:59Speaker 4: for like he died for me, while yeah, I was
- 47:02Speaker 4: a sinner, Like he doesn't owe me anything like I
- 47:08Speaker 4: owe him everything. And so yes, there's gonna be good
- 47:15Speaker 4: times in our life, and there's gonna be bad times
- 47:17Speaker 4: in my life. But my foundation is on me knowing Jesus,
- 47:23Speaker 4: and that all comes through these communion, these prayer moments
- 47:26Speaker 4: that we're talking about. Is that I don't follow him
- 47:30Speaker 4: because he can do things for me, give me things.
- 47:34Speaker 4: I just simply follow him because I love him and
- 47:37Speaker 4: I'm in relationship with him and I'm his bride. He's
- 47:40Speaker 4: my bridegroom, and like there's a relationship there, and so
- 47:45Speaker 4: I know, I just can't there's so much I can
- 47:47Speaker 4: say about that, but thank you for asking, because it
- 47:50Speaker 4: does feel good and people ask about Macy. So like, literally,
- 47:53Speaker 4: just a moment ago while we're on this podcast, Haley
- 47:55Speaker 4: just texted me and said this is hopes are two
- 47:59Speaker 4: and a half year old daughter. She said that hope
- 48:03Speaker 4: to build a cross out of these magnets on the
- 48:06Speaker 4: floor and it says she told me, I'm building across
- 48:12Speaker 4: Mommy for Jesus. But Jesus is not here. He's in heaven.
- 48:17Speaker 4: He's at Heaven with Macy. And so you just don't
- 48:22Speaker 4: you just don't know all that God's doing. You know,
- 48:25Speaker 4: like even Macy's life is helping my daughter now understand
- 48:32Speaker 4: Jesus in heaven and more so, you just never know
- 48:36Speaker 4: what God's doing all the way through it. And so
- 48:38Speaker 4: Macy's life has impacted a lot of people. And she
- 48:41Speaker 4: only lived seventeen days, yeah, on this earth. And so
- 48:45Speaker 4: wrapping that up is that we chose to find the
- 48:52Speaker 4: miracles that God did keep us.
- 48:55Speaker 6: That's so good.
- 48:56Speaker 4: So like the miracle that we wanted was her to
- 49:01Speaker 4: live and to be whole.
- 49:02Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 49:04Speaker 4: But when I walked into the operating room, she wasn't
- 49:10Speaker 4: a good color, like when she came out of Haley's,
- 49:13Speaker 4: you know, an emergency c section. Macy was laying on
- 49:17Speaker 4: the table was not a good color. And I didn't
- 49:20Speaker 4: know she was gonna make it at all. And so
- 49:22Speaker 4: I got down on my knees in the middle of
- 49:24Speaker 4: the operating room and started praying for God to come
- 49:26Speaker 4: and telling Death to leave the room. And they came
- 49:30Speaker 4: over to me and said, she's come, come in a
- 49:32Speaker 4: good color. And so we got up and got to
- 49:36Speaker 4: talk to her. And so God gave us seventeen days.
- 49:42Speaker 4: He the two thirds of her brainstem didn't develop well.
- 49:48Speaker 4: The neurosurgeons at the top of the top at Children's hospitals,
- 49:51Speaker 4: like they were baffled that she was able to move
- 49:56Speaker 4: any part of her body, to move her legs, to
- 49:59Speaker 4: move her arms, to open her eyes. But she was
- 50:03Speaker 4: able to She could grab your finger, she could respond
- 50:07Speaker 4: to like touch and tickle, and if you touch her foot,
- 50:11Speaker 4: she would remove it and then she would open her
- 50:13Speaker 4: eyes and see you. And like when we would hold her,
- 50:17Speaker 4: like she would sleep most of the time, but when
- 50:18Speaker 4: me and Haley held her, she would open her eyes
- 50:21Speaker 4: and she was like she saved all her energy to
- 50:23Speaker 4: be there with us, but she knew we were holding
- 50:26Speaker 4: her and that she was there, like she was comprehensive.
- 50:29Speaker 4: And every time the surgeons would have the narrow certainly
- 50:31Speaker 4: coming in, they would tap on her feet and they
- 50:34Speaker 4: couldn't understand how she was able to move her feet
- 50:37Speaker 4: and fingers and open her eyes. And so those were
- 50:40Speaker 4: miracles that God gave us that weren't supposed to happen.
- 50:46Speaker 4: And so like we we take those memories and we
- 50:50Speaker 4: thank God for what he did give us. And so
- 50:54Speaker 4: you know, when you don't get the full answer, find
- 50:57Speaker 4: out what he what he has given you, and think
- 51:00Speaker 4: for the miracles that He did give you.
- 51:02Speaker 6: Jesus, this is this. I really could talk to y'all
- 51:06Speaker 6: all day. I feel like I got more questions more,
- 51:09Speaker 6: and I think, I think this can't be the last time.
- 51:12Speaker 6: Does what you agree that y'all come? I think that
- 51:19Speaker 6: the firedome is really something that that you guys are
- 51:23Speaker 6: called to because you live it every day. And I'm
- 51:28Speaker 6: not I want to be clear, I'm not leaving on
- 51:30Speaker 6: a sad moment, right, but I think there's a disconnect
- 51:32Speaker 6: when when people are not able to announce the testimonies
- 51:40Speaker 6: right and be able to connect why they're so driven
- 51:43Speaker 6: by it. And that's just one story, rights, this is
- 51:47Speaker 6: just one story of half of them, you know, of
- 51:50Speaker 6: why they're so passionate about God, why their faith is
- 51:53Speaker 6: in God, how they maneuver in the kingdom, and we
- 51:57Speaker 6: truly overcome by the blood of the lamblin word of
- 51:59Speaker 6: our testimony. And so what my prayer is is that
- 52:02Speaker 6: you guys are hearing this and it's resonating with you. Desireate,
- 52:07Speaker 6: I want to give you a moment to talk, but
- 52:08Speaker 6: before I tell you, after Desireate talks pass Laza, I
- 52:12Speaker 6: really want you to pray for us before we end this,
- 52:15Speaker 6: because I there's no point in talk about prayer. We
- 52:18Speaker 6: don't pray right now, and I know this is not
- 52:20Speaker 6: our traditional way of doing things, but just stay, just
- 52:24Speaker 6: keep staying. I'm gonna let Desireate talk and then I'm
- 52:26Speaker 6: gonna let Pastor Leslie pray. No.
- 52:29Speaker 4: I enjoyed.
- 52:31Speaker 6: I enjoyed this conversation because we took something that seems
- 52:36Speaker 6: sometimes impossible to do or we seem like a hard
- 52:39Speaker 6: thing to do, and you guys have just given very
- 52:42Speaker 6: practical language on communicating with the Father, right I remember.
- 52:47Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a part of a mentorship program called
- 52:49Speaker 6: the Enlisted Eagles, and it's a prayer and intercession mentorship program.
- 52:54Speaker 6: And I remember when the Lord first when I first
- 52:58Speaker 6: saw it in my mind, I was like, yes, I'm
- 53:00Speaker 6: gonna join. I'm gonna learn how to pray like this
- 53:02Speaker 6: because everybody, this is how you pray, da da dah.
- 53:04Speaker 6: And what I learned once I got into it, it's
- 53:07Speaker 6: not necessarily about how you pray, but it's about the
- 53:10Speaker 6: disciplines you know that we should have as believers to
- 53:14Speaker 6: be able to have those times with the Lord, to
- 53:17Speaker 6: be able to choose to have those those moments with
- 53:19Speaker 6: the Lord. And I love how Brad made it so
- 53:21Speaker 6: practical about the cool of the day, right, because sometimes
- 53:25Speaker 6: we can feel condemned because maybe our schedule has gotten
- 53:29Speaker 6: a little bit busier.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 53:31Speaker 6: But I can think about, literally think about moments times
- 53:35Speaker 6: through the day. Most of them I'm driving, which is
- 53:38Speaker 6: interesting enough, right that my spirit. I can feel the
- 53:42Speaker 6: shift in my spirit and I begin to pray, right,
- 53:46Speaker 6: And in those moments, I'm like, I hope I don't
- 53:49Speaker 6: start crying, Lord, because I got to keep the car
- 53:52Speaker 6: on the road, you know. But in those moments, it's
- 53:54Speaker 6: just such a I can feel the car feel with
- 53:56Speaker 6: his spirit, you know, and I'm just praying it out
- 53:58Speaker 6: and whatever it is. I don't know why he has
- 54:00Speaker 6: praying in this moment, right, But it was an invitation
- 54:03Speaker 6: that I decided because, like you said, we get to
- 54:06Speaker 6: choose to accept the invitation into that moment. And once
- 54:10Speaker 6: it's done, it's kind of like, okay, Lord.
- 54:13Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 54:13Speaker 6: Like I don't know, I don't know what that was,
- 54:15Speaker 6: but like I felt better. I'm I'm gonna have by faith.
- 54:18Speaker 6: I believe that whatever the Lord needs to pray out
- 54:21Speaker 6: in that moment, that I was able to be an
- 54:23Speaker 6: open vessel for that. But not even in that it's
- 54:26Speaker 6: the simplicity. I'm saying simplicity because we can make it
- 54:31Speaker 6: very complicated, but it's just the simple nature of communing
- 54:35Speaker 6: and having conversation with the Lord. Like he gave us
- 54:38Speaker 6: a sound, right, and how dare I try to mimic
- 54:43Speaker 6: somebody else's sound? Like you can't even hear me, Like
- 54:45Speaker 6: you can't hear me? Good because I'm trying to mimic
- 54:47Speaker 6: somebody else, you know. And so I'm learning in this
- 54:51Speaker 6: journey just to flow with the Holy Spirit.
- 54:54Speaker 4: Like, yes, I do believe.
- 54:55Speaker 6: There's there's moments for intentional closet time, there's moments for
- 54:59Speaker 6: into time that we should read the Word and things
- 55:02Speaker 6: like that, but be open to those those daily invitations
- 55:06Speaker 6: that the Lord wants to meet with us. So I
- 55:09Speaker 6: just thank thank you guys for sharing your your heart,
- 55:12Speaker 6: thank you for sharing your testimony. I'm like, just like
- 55:14Speaker 6: just to see see you guys walk that out because
- 55:18Speaker 6: I think if we're all honest, there's been moments that
- 55:21Speaker 6: we prayed for something and it didn't go the way
- 55:23Speaker 6: that we thought it would go. Right, Well, if the
- 55:25Speaker 6: Lord says that we're healed, that means we're healed, whether
- 55:28Speaker 6: it's on this side of heaven or in heaven, you
- 55:31Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So I'm just grateful, grateful, grateful, grateful,
- 55:35Speaker 6: and I really pray that you guys really listened and
- 55:38Speaker 6: just to take inventory of where you are and where
- 55:41Speaker 6: you can invite the Lord into these spaces.
- 55:44Speaker 2: So pass.
- 55:47Speaker 4: I want to say. One thing is we're talking about
- 55:51Speaker 4: our voice. The other day, I was at the playground. Well,
- 55:57Speaker 4: Haley brought took my daughter two and a half. Your
- 56:00Speaker 4: Hope was already at the playground. Well, I came in
- 56:03Speaker 4: a little bit later. When I showed up on the playground,
- 56:05Speaker 4: there's kids everywhere. Well, when I walked through the gate,
- 56:10Speaker 4: I heard Hope's voice, Daddy, Daddy. I couldn't find her yet,
- 56:16Speaker 4: I was scanning, but I heard her voice above all
- 56:19Speaker 4: the other voices on the playground. Jesus, I knew her voice,
- 56:25Speaker 4: and her voice led me to her. Come on, like
- 56:30Speaker 4: her voice, I followed her voice to find her, Jesus,
- 56:34Speaker 4: and she was over behind like this slide and everything
- 56:37Speaker 4: and so like like that our voice that God gave us,
- 56:41Speaker 4: like he loves it. When we talked to him, call
- 56:43Speaker 4: him daddy and want him where we're at, Jesus And
- 56:46Speaker 4: so I just felt like we've been talking about our voices,
- 56:50Speaker 4: just being us and just talking to God who we
- 56:53Speaker 4: are in our own language, that he loves that and
- 56:55Speaker 4: he knows our voice.
- 56:57Speaker 2: So that's so good a man, So wow, this has
- 57:01Speaker 2: been great. Thank you so much for having us. I
- 57:04Speaker 2: know we really you guys bring fresh manner. This podcast
- 57:09Speaker 2: is so relevant, so real, so genuine, and I know
- 57:13Speaker 2: that you're reaching so many people. So thank you for
- 57:17Speaker 2: allowing us to be, you know, bringing some old guys
- 57:19Speaker 2: on to roll with y'all. But as I pray for you,
- 57:25Speaker 2: this is kind of my heart is that this is prayer,
- 57:29Speaker 2: a prayer for revival of prayer, which is the beginning
- 57:32Speaker 2: of praying, and so instead of you know, so many
- 57:35Speaker 2: times we feel like somebody's doing something for us, and
- 57:39Speaker 2: so I'm not necessarily going to be praying for you.
- 57:42Speaker 2: I am. I'm calling you to build an altar for
- 57:48Speaker 2: the Lord. I'm calling you because God wants to commune
- 57:54Speaker 2: and have a relationship with you, and you matter and
- 57:59Speaker 2: your prayers are just as powerful as any of us
- 58:03Speaker 2: on this podcast. God here's your voice, and he wants
- 58:09Speaker 2: to He wants you to get to know him better.
- 58:12Speaker 2: So Lord, truly, our fellowship is with the Father and
- 58:17Speaker 2: with the Son and God you said, come to me,
- 58:21Speaker 2: every one of you that are burdened and troubled, and
- 58:26Speaker 2: you said, come and learn from me. So Lord, you're
- 58:29Speaker 2: inviting people to the table of prayer.
- 58:33Speaker 4: Thank you, Lord.
- 58:34Speaker 2: This is more important than even going to church. Thiss
- 58:36Speaker 2: good Lord. This is something that will make church worth
- 58:40Speaker 2: going to because when we talk to you and get
- 58:43Speaker 2: to know you, then Lord, it's exciting about coming and
- 58:47Speaker 2: being around other people that know you. So Lord, I
- 58:51Speaker 2: thank you that the door is open, the light is on,
- 58:55Speaker 2: and the invitation is being sent right now and people
- 58:58Speaker 2: are being drawn to the Father. And Lord, we thank
- 59:03Speaker 2: you that Lord, revival is breaking out in the hearts
- 59:06Speaker 2: of your people today. May God truly bless you as
- 59:11Speaker 2: you pray and talk to the Father. Amen.
- 59:15Speaker 6: Amen, Amen, Thank you, Pastorsli, thank you Brad. I just
- 59:21Speaker 6: thank God for you guys, and thank y'all for allowing
- 59:24Speaker 6: us to be in your space and just obeying God.
- 59:27Speaker 6: Because for y'all to obey God, we get to obey
- 59:30Speaker 6: God more and partnership in the Kingdom is like just
- 59:33Speaker 6: beautiful and you guys have taught us that.
- 59:35Speaker 3: So thank you. Y'all.
- 59:36Speaker 6: I know there was a lot and y'all probably have
- 59:38Speaker 6: to go back and watch this again and again and again.
- 59:41Speaker 6: I know I'm going to have to do that. Just
- 59:45Speaker 6: take it, take it easy, it's step by step. Please
- 59:49Speaker 6: just come in. I'm sorry, I'm just kind of like
- 59:52Speaker 6: I think I'm going to the third heaven of song.
- 59:56Speaker 6: But just take it easy, take your notes, but also
- 59:59Speaker 6: come in and let us know what was the big
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: moment for you, like, what was your what was your
- 1:00:03Speaker 6: biggest takeaway in this moment. I also want to give
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: you an opportunity to invite you to sew into BGTV Studios.
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: We'll make sure that's linked in the bottom. This is
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: this is Kingdom work, right. Brad does not ask us
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: for anything, but I'm asking you and so I want
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: you guys to have the opportunity to sew into Kingdom
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: movement and BGTV Studios is that movement. Okay, but until
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: next week, until next time, remember life could be much
- 1:00:29Speaker 6: more simple if you just asked.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode. Since
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: you've made it this far, you might as well connect
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: with us on all social media platforms at the Jessica
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: s Smith. I know I won't see you back until
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: next week, but until then, remember to love always yourself
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: and always thank God for one other day.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Hey.
- 1:01:01Speaker 5: Hey, I know we could be another way. Hey, pray
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: thank God for another day. Hey hey, I'm just thankful
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: for another day. Hey Hey, another day? Oh, another day wise,
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: another day to get it right, another day to rise up,
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: another day living, another day.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: We loved ones.
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: I always remember hold it down for a ball one,
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: yeh