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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, July second. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Acrin game in sixty days, the game against Michigan in
- 0:07one hundred and fifty one days. This is the first day I am back
- 0:11from a trip to weekend trip to Philadelphia. So you got a Ryan Day
- 0:15interview show yesterday and today we're going to take a look back at some of
- 0:18the news that has happened while I was gone. We're doing that with my
- 0:21buddy Markivler Buckehuddle dot com. Mark, first of all, let me just
- 0:25say as a Mets fan, it brings me no joy to say this,
- 0:28but Citizens Bank Ballpark in your native town of Philadelphia, that is quite a
- 0:33nice ballpark. Good place to see a game, it is. It's a
- 0:36really nice park. It's got great concessions, it's got good viewpoints. I've
- 0:41always enjoyed going there. And you know, you came in there and Bryce
- 0:45Harper and Kyle Schwarber were injured and haven't been seen since. So I don't
- 0:48know if you went Tanya Harding or something. I know how you like to
- 0:53sneak around in the back alleys of stadium, so I don't know if that's
- 0:57up you're doing or not, but not happy about it. Yeah, brought
- 1:02my Mets luck to Philadelphia and left it there. I did briefly look at
- 1:06going to the Mets game on Sunday. We couldn't make the schedule workout to
- 1:08get up there to New York from Philly. But just by looking at it,
- 1:12I caused them to take a six to one lead and blow it and
- 1:15lose to the Astros. So, yes, my powers, My powers are
- 1:18great and vast. Be careful, Be careful lest I curse your team by
- 1:23stepping foot on in their stadium or even thinking about going to a game in
- 1:26their stadium. All right, So enough baseball talk, and we may have
- 1:30a little hockey talk at the end, if we have time to do a
- 1:32little Jackets chat at the end. This has been an eventful week for the
- 1:34Blue Jackets as well. But let's talk a little ol'l higher state football recruiting.
- 1:38It has been a very, very busy month of June for the Buckeyes.
- 1:42They started June with twelve commitments, which is, you know, that's
- 1:44a decent sized class. They brought in nine commitments in the month of June,
- 1:49ending the month of June with twenty one commitments. That's like the full
- 1:52size class in some years of the Buckeyes. The work is not done this
- 1:55year. But here are the nine guys in no particular order, that they
- 1:59got commitment from in June. Zion Grady, Trade, ja Otum, Brody
- 2:02Lennon, Bob Bin Miller, Jake Cook, Isaiah West, Quincy Porter,
- 2:06Bo Jackson for him de Lane Mark. I know we were anticipating, you
- 2:09know, June a lot of visits. You typically get a number of commitments.
- 2:13Nine commitments in a month that is one of the biggest months I can
- 2:16remember a team having. Yeah, I mean I think we thought this would
- 2:22maybe spread out over July as well. I know Zion Grady initially was going
- 2:27to announce on July fourth and told me he just couldn't even wait that long.
- 2:30He couldn't wait another week. He just had to wanted to get it
- 2:34over with, wanted to do it. So I had some guys maybe pop
- 2:38a week or two earlier than maybe we thought. But yeah, I think
- 2:39we expected a very busy summer on the recruiting trail for Ohio State, and
- 2:43that's exactly what we're getting. It was not all good news for the Buckeyes.
- 2:49The Oregon Ducks got a couple guys who the Buckeyes had been looking at
- 2:53pretty seriously, and at least one who they thought at what various times was
- 2:57maybe basically in the class already. Dorian Brew, the four to five star
- 3:02quarter depending on who you want to ask, out of Texas by a northmontt
- 3:07High School in Ohio, and Jordan Davison, the running back out of Modern
- 3:09Day, both committed to Oregon. You know, neither of those are guys
- 3:15who are at positions of dire need by any means. Spot guys have several
- 3:19players already at both of their positions to cycle those still, was one of
- 3:23those maybe more surprising to you than the other. Yeah, I think Dorian
- 3:29Brue was more surprising. I think when and I thought for a while they
- 3:34were going to get Jordan Davison, But I think when they took Isaiah West
- 3:37and took the second running back, I think everyone had to realize that that
- 3:42may not ultimately sit well with Jordan Davidson, and he may decide to go
- 3:46elsewhere and not be part of a three back class. With Brew, the
- 3:51Red Sea had kind of parted for him. There, you know, Blake
- 3:54would be decommitted. They really kind of put the full court press on him
- 3:58on his official visit last week, and things were sounding very good coming out
- 4:02of that. And to go even further, I don't think Oregon was the
- 4:06school they were worried about. I think it was Texas. So it kind
- 4:12of one eight eight on him there with Brew I think Jordan Davison again was
- 4:17kind of a product of well, when they took Isaiah West and made it
- 4:21a two back class, you had to be at least understand this was a
- 4:24possibility. So that was kind of the news over the weekend, the news
- 4:30earlier in the month in some of those cases. So that sort of is
- 4:33where things stand now. Now here's what's coming up next. Defensive edline,
- 4:39edge prospect, maybe outside linebacker, depending on how you want to categorize him.
- 4:44Jack Justin Hill. He is set to commit on the third. It
- 4:47feels like, I mean, this is already mark a very deep defensive line
- 4:51class for Ohio State compared to some of the ones they've gotten in recent years.
- 4:56Adding Justin Hill would just make it even better. Is this, you
- 5:00know, is this a function of Ohio State maybe shifting its you know approach
- 5:05in defensive line recruiting after a couple of years where they missed on some guys.
- 5:09Is this just you know, that the having something to point to,
- 5:13like what what what are they selling this year that is working so well?
- 5:15And you know, do you feel like Justin Hill maybe is going to you
- 5:18know, become a part of this class as well? Well? First of
- 5:21all, yes, I do expect. I do expect Ohio State to land
- 5:25Justin on Wednesday. I think They've been in the lead for for a long
- 5:29time now, you know, going back into the winter, so I'm expecting
- 5:32Ohio State to get good news there. You know. As for why so
- 5:38much success there right now, I think it's twofold. I do think Larry
- 5:43Johnson got off to a faster start with guys in this class. I do
- 5:46think he sped things up a little bit. Now, he did have some
- 5:49established relationships as well. He was in very early on London Merit, he
- 5:53was in very early on Zahar Mathis. Obviously, Ohio State was in very
- 5:57early on Justin Hill, assuming they get him on Wednesday. And you know,
- 6:00so Zion Grady was kind of the one guy that was kind of a
- 6:03whoa you know moment there the last couple of months, Wow, they can
- 6:08actually maybe get this guy despite maybe not being super early on him. But
- 6:12so I think that's part of it. They got the ball rolling a little
- 6:15bit earlier. But again, when you have all these guys returning for their
- 6:18senior years that you didn't expect to maybe that you maybe thought you were going
- 6:20to lose two or three of these guys, they all come back, that
- 6:25means they have to get out of here after this year. And they only
- 6:28really signed Edric Houston last year as an edge guy. So you're looking at
- 6:32a situation now where if I'm a five star or a top fifty type of
- 6:36defensive end, I'm thinking I can play right away and maybe play quite a
- 6:40bit as a true freshman. And you know, that's obviously a huge,
- 6:44huge selling point that they're able to put out there right now. So I
- 6:48mentioned earlier, they've got twenty one commits already number one class and the two
- 6:53four to seven composite just a hair behind LSU. In terms of average ranking
- 6:58per player, average star ranking per player. They are right at the top
- 7:02of the board by virtually any measure you'd want to use. But there is
- 7:08still work to do in the class of twenty twenty five. You know,
- 7:12this is potentially with all those guys leaving with you never know who's heading into
- 7:15the transfer portal. It feels like this could be a class that ends up
- 7:18much bigger than a typical Ohio State class. So you might end up in
- 7:21the upper twenties, you know, whether that's twenty eight, twenty nine,
- 7:24whatever the number is. Where is there still work to do in the twenty
- 7:29twenty five cycle for the Buckeyes. I mean, they've got a very very
- 7:30solid class already. Where do they still need to add to really get it
- 7:35to where they need it to be? Well, I do think this is
- 7:40going to be a really big class. And at the risk of having said
- 7:43that a couple of times in the past ten years and it not coming to
- 7:46fruition and them not really utilizing the full eighty five necessarily, I think,
- 7:50you know, the Lockness Monster is going to appear, or the Tasmanian Tiger
- 7:55or whatever, you know, whatever mythical creature that we've predicted that we would
- 7:58eventually see out of Ohio State in terms of like a twenty eight man class
- 8:01is going to come to fruition. The work right now is primarily on the
- 8:09offensive line. There's also work at wide receiver to be done. And yes,
- 8:13they're gonna want to They're gonna want a third corner, whether that's continuing
- 8:16to chip away at Dorian brew even though he's committed, or whether you know,
- 8:20kind of opening up some new targets, whatever that may be. They're
- 8:22going to continue to search for a third corner. They would like to take
- 8:24a third linebacker. But I think again, I think the big emphasis right
- 8:28now is finishing out the offensive line and the defensive tackle position, which may
- 8:33not take that much longer. You know. Uh, Trajan Odum was a
- 8:37huge get. I wasn't sure they would get him. He's from California,
- 8:41he lives in North Carolina. They had a lot of things working against him
- 8:43there. USC's class kind of fell apart on them, which I wasn't sure
- 8:48if that would be good or bad with Otum. It was probably, in
- 8:50hindsight, a good thing in terms of high shake getting Odum when he looked
- 8:52around and saw all these other big time defensive lineman he was supposed to be
- 8:56playing with, maybe they're heading elsewhere. So they got they got a little
- 9:01bit. They were on the right side of things with that, and so
- 9:05they've got one. I think they only need to I think they would take
- 9:07three if it was the right three. And I think they're in a good
- 9:11position with Maxwell Roy. I believe they've made the push for him. Now.
- 9:13We talked about this a couple of weeks ago on the show about you
- 9:16know, getting the defensive tackle board settled and who they're going to push for
- 9:20and who they kind of figure they're not going to get, and this,
- 9:22that and the other, and so I think they've got a really good chance
- 9:24of getting Maxwell Roy here, So that could actually finish that off. So
- 9:28that brings you to the offensive line, where they're still chasing, you know,
- 9:31Javin McFadden and of course David Sanders junior is the big fish and he'll
- 9:35probably commit somewhere in August. So that's going to be a huge thing for
- 9:39them as we kind of go to the dead period here, is just making
- 9:41sure they're basically all in on David Sanders junior and doing everything they can to
- 9:46get that commitment in August. So we will continue talking Buckeye recruiting throughout the
- 9:52month of July should be a very busy month. He typically do see more
- 9:56commitments during the month of July, and then, as you said, there's
- 9:58other guys who have said they're gonna commit before the season. So the season
- 10:03starts relatively soon, especially on the high school side of things, so it
- 10:05could be much more action there. All right, we do Before I let
- 10:09you go, we spend a lot of time talking Blue Jackets on the huddle
- 10:13board presented by Jeff Ruby Steakhouse at bucket huddle dot com. So I do
- 10:16want to get your thoughts on the Blue Jackets draft. There was some talk
- 10:20they might trade down, they did not trade down, ended up picking at
- 10:24number four. Your your thoughts on the draft on the whole. I saw
- 10:28there was someone who had said to the new the New GM that it looked
- 10:31like they were drafting a basketball team because they kept going with size size,
- 10:33size, size size. Any any thoughts on this year's draft. Yeah,
- 10:39so, I guess their choice was kind of Caden Lindstrom or Ivan Demidov,
- 10:43the Russian winger, and they have so many wings right now. I know
- 10:48there's a lot of people who maybe wanted them to take Demodov instead of Caden
- 10:52Lindstrom, but look, this is a franchise. It hasn't had quality depth
- 10:58at center and its entire existence, and they've kind of fished with dynamite here
- 11:03the last couple of years. They draft Fantilly that looks like a hit.
- 11:05They draft Cylinder, which at minimum looks like a bottom six center, and
- 11:09then Lindstrom's got a high upside to be a one or two center. And
- 11:13then they signed Sean Monahan in a free first day of free agency of Johnny
- 11:16Gadreau's old teammates. So, you know, bottom line, I think they've
- 11:20done a pretty good job here filling the gaps and and kind of building out
- 11:24that center death. And they took a lot of big defensemen, which I
- 11:28think they sorely lack, you know, some some muscle on the back end
- 11:31there. So that's not going to help them probably for a couple of years.
- 11:33But I like where their thought process was at there. And we'll see,
- 11:37you know, Monahan's not a guy you sign if you're you know,
- 11:41still in a rebuild mode. So it sounds like they're going to try and
- 11:45be competitive this year. And gosh, don't they have to get Johnny gudrou
- 11:48going. And if they're going to, wouldn't the only way to wouldn't the
- 11:52best way to do that to be to bring in his old center from Calgary.
- 11:54And and because if you don't get Johnny Gudroau going, this franchise isn't
- 11:58going anywhere. Yeah, that's that's definitely one one piece that they're missing.
- 12:03You know, the idea of the centers. You go back over the years
- 12:07and yeah, they have. It just feels like they have never been able
- 12:09to get centers consistently. And you know, this is a year, this
- 12:11is a league where good centers just don't move. It's just not that easy.
- 12:16You get, it's not that easy to just throw a trade together for
- 12:18a center. So they have maybe found, you know, the one weird
- 12:22trick to load your roster with good young centers. They don't move in,
- 12:26they move out because they've they've won the you know, they never they have
- 12:30terrible draft lottery luck, but in terms of the luck involved in acquiring malcontent
- 12:37centers, they sure have that market cornered. Yeah, well, we'll see.
- 12:41This is this is maybe something a little different trying. If at first
- 12:46you don't succeed, if the first twenty something years don't go well, well,
- 12:50probably something a little different. I'm filled with something I don't. It's
- 12:54an unfamiliar feeling. Mark. It's it's like pessimism, but the opposite.
- 12:56It's so unfamiliar, I don't even know what the word is. We'll see,
- 13:01we will see how things go for the Blue Jackets. We'll be talking
- 13:03about that. I'm the Huddleboard presented by Jeffruby, Steak House at Buckhot at
- 13:05Puckeye Huddle dot com. And of course we'll be talking buck Eyes there as
- 13:09well. Lots to talk about there. Your baseball fan, Hey, there
- 13:13is a team up in Cleveland that's having a pretty good season. We're talking
- 13:16about them, the Reds. Well, they're also playing you know, I'm
- 13:18a Mets fan. I can't really talk too much. Took too much back
- 13:22about the Reds this year. But yeah, we were talking about all that
- 13:24stuff football, NFL season coming. We're talking football there. And of course
- 13:28we were talking Ohio State, recruiting, Ohio State see, you know,
- 13:31the season, all that stuff, new college football playoff, new college football
- 13:35video game. There is a ton to talk about this month, all at
- 13:37bucke huddle dot com. That's where Tony Kevin and I cover the team.
- 13:41Mark covers recruiting. We're at our whole team of exus and ohs Guruz making
- 13:45you a murder football fan all at Buckey Huddle dot com. We hope to
- 13:48see you there. The Big Ten Media Days just three weeks away. Can't
- 13:52belive it. Three weeks from now we will be in Indianapolis talking to Big
- 13:56Ten players and coaches. Season almost here. We hope to see you at
- 14:00Buckeyehuddle dot com to enjoy it all with us. That'll do it for today.
- 14:03Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll
- 14:05talk to you tomorrow.