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Duke's all-time choke vs. UConn in Elite 8, Tiger Woods arrested, Will Wade to LSU | 03.30 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: to all you Duke fans who are listening. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why the hell you doing that, baby, because it's
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  Speaker 1: a party over here after they blew that 15-point lead
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  Speaker 1: at halftime. Ryan, I hit you, and I was like, yo.
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  Speaker 1: UConn letting us down. The homie Jason England was like,
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  Speaker 1: UConn letting the hood down. I told you, the game
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  Speaker 1: was over. And then, whittle by whittle, chip here, chip there, ding.
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  Speaker 2: Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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  Speaker 1: It's like that story about the ant that was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: frittering and, you know, doing shit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember how it goes. I just know Duke Laws.
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  Speaker 3: Duke lost in embarrassing fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, yo, yo, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Not just embarrassing fashion, the most embarrassing fashion possible when
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  Speaker 1: you think about it if you are Duke, right? They
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  Speaker 1: lost on a play that seemed to be a demonstration
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  Speaker 1: of weak will and poor fundamentals, which is getting trapped
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the floor and then the younger
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  Speaker 1: boozer gave up the booty, right?
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't throw the ball over the trap. It got deflected.
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  Speaker 1: And then Duke took the L- When White Braylon hit.
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  Speaker 2: A shot from the logo.
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  Speaker 3: 35-footer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not just any logo. That big-ass NCAA logo. There's
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  Speaker 2: barely any wood spots on the floor with all the
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  Speaker 2: shit they got on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: He hit that shot. That was a ridiculous shot. That
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  Speaker 1: was people like ice water in his veins.
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  Speaker 3: Bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: That was not.
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  Speaker 3: Broken blocks.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was not ice water. That was a hot potato.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it wasn't like he got it, like, hey, turn
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  Speaker 1: this shoulder square. No, he got it. He dropped his
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  Speaker 1: feet back to where it was. He plugged that thing
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  Speaker 1: halfway there. I was like, oh, snap, it's going in.
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  Speaker 1: That was before I even knew his name was White Braylon.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like Duke would take on a White Braylon. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I know they done got around to regular Braylons, but
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  Speaker 1: White Braylons, they from the wrong side, like a different
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  Speaker 1: kind of wrong side of the tracks.
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  Speaker 2: You understand what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about that boy, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: except he's from some little town in Indiana. If he
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  Speaker 1: is not actually white Braylon, I apologize. I have not
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  Speaker 1: bothered to Google up his parents. But like white white
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  Speaker 1: Braylon is another step.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think Ryan just took himself off the screen
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  Speaker 1: so he could get on the case. I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at his hair. I won't tell you
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  Speaker 2: the other thing I was going to say. But anyway, boy,
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  Speaker 2: that was fun. That felt good.
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  Speaker 1: I was so glad that game was not like at
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  Speaker 1: 11 o'clock at night because I might have woke up
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  Speaker 1: one of my neighbors and I try to be a
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  Speaker 1: good neighbor.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I'll do that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that way. I was out here rooting
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  Speaker 1: for Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley is not my type of
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  Speaker 1: hype in about eight different ways. Man, listen, that day
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  Speaker 1: was losing that game so bad at halftime. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: he better go in there and fire their ass up.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, dude, do what it takes. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Apparently they did.
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  Speaker 3: Josh and Katie Mullins. I think we can go with
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  Speaker 3: White Braylon. Yeah, I think we're safe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're safe. I mean, I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: know the other names that were on the list.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, when you went with White Braylon, I'm like, so,
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  Speaker 1: I guess Andre is an old people's name now. So,
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  Speaker 1: there's all kinds of those names, like Andre, Kareem, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I think they are the new Bulas. Right, they're
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  Speaker 2: the new Gertrudes. They're the new names that have just
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  Speaker 2: gotten like Earl.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of gone in the ether as the
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  Speaker 3: generations passed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really weird that you look up one
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  Speaker 1: day and it's like, yo, this is an old person
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  Speaker 1: name now.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that's the case, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know what other names they were thinking
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  Speaker 1: before they settled on Braylon. And good thing he could hoop.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I bet that did great things for him
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  Speaker 1: in the hoop thing. where, I mean, I know people
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  Speaker 1: got access to video and everything, but when they're reading
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  Speaker 1: down the list of who the players are, and you
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  Speaker 1: hear that the boy Braylon is out here killing.
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  Speaker 2: It, you're like, oh shit, let me get a look
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  Speaker 2: at him. You know what I'm saying? And they don't
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  Speaker 2: even know.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's the people that probably showed up to get
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  Speaker 1: a look at his game that wouldn't have done so
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  Speaker 1: otherwise if his name was, I don't even know what counts.
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  Speaker 2: As a white person name anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Brandon?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It goes both ways, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Brandon Ingram is Brandon.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Went to Duke. That is still.
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  Speaker 1: the most unlikely occurrence of my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: And I've seen Donald Trump get elected twice.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like this
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  Speaker 1: is who boy never saw it. Never saw it coming.
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  Speaker 1: Never saw it coming. But anyway, man, I don't even know. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I got some analysis for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a really, I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: It has felt like a very exciting NCAA tournament. My
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  Speaker 1: brother and Vinny had come over to the crib. We
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  Speaker 1: were watching games on Saturday night. And, um, we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about just how exciting the tournament has been. And
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  Speaker 1: my brother said, he feels like he says that every year.
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  Speaker 1: And Ryan, that's interesting to me because I actually don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like I say that every year. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: most years have some potential, but like even that Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: Iowa game, it wound up being a spread, but that
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  Speaker 1: was a really good, like entertaining game to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And also creating new characters. I mean that Iowa coach
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  Speaker 3: that's come out of nowhere. Who's like, you know, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Like the big tens, like dominance of all sports since NIL, um,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, speaking of Michigan.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: They beat the brakes off of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: And I had sent you a text during the day,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, am I going to have to
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  Speaker 1: do something about how Rick Barnes actually turned into a
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  Speaker 1: good coach?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I could, but I don't have to anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to anymore. And speaking of coaches
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  Speaker 3: who are struggling in these tournament rounds, John Shire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my good buddies said, what are we
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  Speaker 1: going to admit that John Shire simply has warning track power?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't feel like we can. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you have to give a certain measure of blame
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  Speaker 1: to the coach when you blow a 15 point lead.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But what happened at the end of that game, at
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  Speaker 1: least it felt to me, was just kind of college students,
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  Speaker 1: college freshmen, no less.
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  Speaker 2: Moment got a little bit too big for him.
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  Speaker 1: But, man, you don't really see that much high-level basketball
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  Speaker 1: with a dude getting trapped in the middle of the
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  Speaker 1: floor like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I get why he would not want to throw
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  Speaker 2: it back.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Under any circumstance.
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  Speaker 1: If we can just get this ball across half court,
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  Speaker 1: We're straight. But there was at no point in that
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  Speaker 1: possession did I think that the way it was going
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  Speaker 1: to go is that the ball was going to go
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  Speaker 1: the other way.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 2: From where it went. Like, I did not think they were.
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  Speaker 3: It starts feeling like the fourth pass.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Occasionally someone steals the inbounds or something gets deflected
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  Speaker 3: there as a five second. But that turn of events
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  Speaker 3: almost never happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think.
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  Speaker 1: I did not think they were going to force a turnover.
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  Speaker 1: And as we're sitting here, buddy of mine. Buddy J
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  Speaker 1: sent a text that said the difference between comedy and
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  Speaker 1: tragedy is who it happens to.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: It's so real.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up later in the show, Tiger Woods.
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  Speaker 1: Man, look, I got so loud when the shot went in.
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  Speaker 1: And then I turned conspiracy brother because it was. 3
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  Speaker 1: seconds on the clock and then they put it to.
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  Speaker 1: 4 because as you know, you cannot do catch and
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  Speaker 1: shoot on. 3, but you can on. 4.
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  Speaker 2: Like, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You see how they do it?
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  Speaker 2: There they go. That's the shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we be talking about. See, that's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they do. But yeah, no, that was a
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  Speaker 1: really good, I mean, tournament all good. Honestly, to me,
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  Speaker 1: that was like the championship game. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I could watch the final four.
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  Speaker 2: It's an option I have.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But we're going to see. But shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Illinois. You know what I'm saying? The merry
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  Speaker 1: band of Eastern Europeans getting it done. They look really
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  Speaker 1: happy too. Yeah. Like I will say that something that
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  Speaker 1: I do think counts and applies when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: college basketball and that will not change, even with the
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  Speaker 1: money apparently, is the ages by and large of the players. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we got some dudes like that dude that
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  Speaker 1: Michigan got who apparently is almost a pharmacist.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: At this point. But maybe I'm just reaching that age.
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  Speaker 1: But them boys at Illinois, when they won that game
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  Speaker 1: and they, you know, with the coach and everything, it
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  Speaker 1: still looked like what you'd idealistically like for college basketball
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  Speaker 1: to look like. And I do think that when you
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  Speaker 1: watch these games like up through your 20s and maybe
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  Speaker 1: even your early 30s, It doesn't hit the same as
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  Speaker 1: it does once you're literally twice as old as the
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  Speaker 1: guys who are out there. And now you do really
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  Speaker 1: start seeing the youthful affect.
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  Speaker 2: Of all of this.
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  Speaker 3: They just start to look younger and younger and younger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's an emotional resonance to the whole game
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  Speaker 1: of college basketball that is different than it'll be in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. And even if these guys are getting money,
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  Speaker 1: this is still, for a bunch of them, the coolest
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  Speaker 1: shit that they're ever going to do in their lives.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and the highest stage they're going to be on,
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  Speaker 3: by far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if they got a bunch of money
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  Speaker 1: in their pockets over it, It's still the coolest shit
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  Speaker 1: that they've ever done. And it still looked like a
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  Speaker 1: game that was being played by people who were engaging
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  Speaker 1: in the coolest thing that they were ever going to do.
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  Speaker 2: And again, maybe this.
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  Speaker 1: Is simply a perspective that I had to age into.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a charm to that. And I have
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  Speaker 1: been a person who has said the player should absolutely
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  Speaker 1: get it.
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  Speaker 2: Paid, right?
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  Speaker 1: But it was going to make things a little bit
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  Speaker 1: less fun.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There was no way around that.
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  Speaker 1: So like, for example, Darren Peterson was unaffected by losing
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  Speaker 1: in the second round of that game in a way
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  Speaker 1: that I don't think happens in a world before all
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  Speaker 1: this money. I just, as somebody who clearly cares about
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  Speaker 1: winning and stuff like that, right? Like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's how that winds up going. But I did, I
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  Speaker 1: saw this also with the Michigan guys after they won.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really get a chance to watch the UConn
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  Speaker 1: celebration because I was too busy having one of my own. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I imagine that they was over there like
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  Speaker 1: pretty happy too. It does still feel like the NCAA tournament,
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  Speaker 1: which is very important for the NCAA. I have understood that,
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  Speaker 1: more than I think most people who share my views do,
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  Speaker 1: the reason that they kind of viewed all this money
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  Speaker 1: as an existential threat to the game, because it was
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  Speaker 1: counter to the branding that they had sold. Like whether
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  Speaker 1: or not you thought amateurism was important, it was a
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  Speaker 1: linchpin of what they sold. And the idea that these
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  Speaker 1: guys are in it for the love of the game
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  Speaker 1: was huge. And they are clearly not just in this
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  Speaker 1: for the love of the game. They might love it too,
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  Speaker 1: but this is not a noble sport in pursuit at
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  Speaker 1: this point. But it still felt like it with these
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  Speaker 1: games at the end. It still felt like it with
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  Speaker 1: these buzzer beaters that we saw. And that's important for
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  Speaker 1: all these parties involved, that it still feels that way.
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  Speaker 1: Because otherwise, the basketball simply is not good enough to
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  Speaker 1: support this without the trappings that are around it.
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  Speaker 2: Like that big boy Reed, that played for UConn. It
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  Speaker 2: was amazing. He had great footwork.
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  Speaker 1: He had great post moves, but he could never get
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  Speaker 1: it done on the first one. It was like, God damn,
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  Speaker 1: just go up. Nope, I got a dream shake a
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  Speaker 1: couple more times. And then eventually he'd always get there.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just like, oh yeah, that's right. These
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  Speaker 1: guys aren't that good at basketball. It's just fun to
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  Speaker 1: watch them play it.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think part of that is... the the characters
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  Speaker 3: of the coaches store like kind of re-emerging themselves uh
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  Speaker 3: obviously rick patino made a big run calipari went far
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  Speaker 3: i mean dan hurley is now becoming moving up in
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  Speaker 3: the ranks of great college basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it helps it helps i mean look i was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this and we'll talk a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: about ryan's messy ass school in a little bit we'll
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  Speaker 1: get there but I am a person who does not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a person who loves Kim Mulkey because I love
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  Speaker 1: that Kim Mulkey exists. Not because I agree with Kim
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  Speaker 1: Mulkey on a bunch of things or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that she exists. I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she'd be out there. wearing them crazy get-ups
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  Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Yeah, I love how obnoxious she is
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  Speaker 1: about her political views and the things she says at
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  Speaker 1: the days and stuff like that, because we need more
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  Speaker 1: of those.
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  Speaker 2: That is the thing with Dan Hurley.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Hurley has taken it upon himself to be, like,
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  Speaker 1: there aren't that many full-on assholes left.
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  Speaker 2: He's out there asking referees if they want LASIK. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's a fan. Like he's heckling the refs. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do that. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: But these characters are necessary to make this game go.
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  Speaker 1: The players as characters in a certain way, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to seem like they've done this before.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want it. And it doesn't look like that.
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  Speaker 1: And again, this is a huge nail in the coffin
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  Speaker 1: for the NCAA because I thought they were right. in
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  Speaker 1: believing that that would be affected or changed by all this.
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  Speaker 1: But no, actually, it has not. And maybe, if we're
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  Speaker 1: being honest, I think that's true, though I could be wrong,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: just because I'm so, so happy that Duke lost. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to this, listen to this. A man just sent me
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  Speaker 1: a text, the homie Jason.
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  Speaker 2: So Duke.
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  Speaker 1: Has had their last four losses, which goes into last season.
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  Speaker 2: Because this is only the third loss they had this year.
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  Speaker 2: This was the.
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  Speaker 1: Peak in-game win probability for those last four losses. In
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  Speaker 1: the Final Four against Houston in 2025, 97.5. December 2025
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  Speaker 1: against Texas Tech, 97.8.
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  Speaker 2: February against Carolina, 95.1. Today against UConn, 98.7.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, like, about that church life. Just never really
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  Speaker 1: been my bag. However, it's clear that there's only one
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  Speaker 1: reasonable explanation for that.
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  Speaker 2: God don't like ugly. Tiger Woods, I was.
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  Speaker 1: At a memorial service on Friday, when the word came
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  Speaker 1: down that Tiger Woods had got busted for DUI, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm there, and somebody who had previously been very invested
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  Speaker 1: in Tiger Woods just loudly says, man, fuck him.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: The news of Tiger getting this DUI, it's interesting because
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's 50 years old, but you normally see that sort
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  Speaker 1: of hostility, and he's not the only person.
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  Speaker 2: That had such a feeling.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe I think a certain part of that is
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  Speaker 1: the stigma that's associated with DUI. But it's like Tiger's
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  Speaker 1: being treated like he's somebody who's wasting his potential still,
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  Speaker 1: because that's the thing that normally brings it out of people.
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  Speaker 1: I had a conversation with my good buddy Michael Collins
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the other day, and we were talking about the fact
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that people still think Tiger Woods can win golf tournaments.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: He's 50 years old. He's got all these issues and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: everything else. And it's like, yo, you think Tiger's going
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to play in the Masters? As if he has a
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: chance to play. Nobody cared in 1992 if Jack Nicklaus
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was going to play in the Masters.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, he's going to play. We're going to watch, right?
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: But that's how it feels.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: People view Tiger as like, oh, we still think that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: he can win this or whatever. And so therefore, when
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: he has these things happen, the thought is he's The
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: thought is in line with his recklessness and his selfishness, right?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not inclined to go there.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Now, an important detail is I haven't read any of
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: these books that are about Tiger Woods or even I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: did not read that really lengthy Wright Thompson story. Did
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you read that one about Tiger and the Navy SEAL stuff?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I also read the— The Unauthorized Biography. It came out
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: about five years ago.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I know the right Thompson piece. That's the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: one about him trying to be a Navy SEAL and
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, right? And so it's kind of, his
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: 30s were spent kind of chasing these hyper-masculine pursuits, many
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of which messed up his body.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Like, is that a fair characterization?
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, messed up his back and his knees.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I guess he was 34, right?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: In 09 or right around 34 because his birthday is
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: at the very end of the year uh when he
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: crashed car in the driveway and all of these things
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: um but i saw somebody who was just like i
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: forget what they said about his 20s and his 30s
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: was you know chasing these macho things or whatever and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: then you know it gets to the 40s and i
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: think i understand wanting to dismiss him because of you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: know like the idea of that simple sort of masculinity
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I understand why people think it's stupid, but I also
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: understand why somebody would chase it. You know, because in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the end, man, as stupid and silly as people think
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that macho stuff is, man, macho dudes who pull it off,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: they test really well. People really like them, including the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: people they claim they think is stupid.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: And they achieve a lot of great things that other
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: people don't.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's a thing.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I get why one would chase it, especially somebody like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: him who, for what you can know about him without
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: having read all the books or read all the articles,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: he's just always been a little lost in trying to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: find himself, right? Like that Cabellan Asian thing. That's a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: lost person trying to find himself. And at this point
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: in his life, where he can't even really play golf,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: which is the one place where he knew exactly who
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: He was Tiger fucking Woods. You can't even really do that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Like, the fact that Tiger Woods is out there on
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that virtual golf shit they be showing, you see that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: The fact that he participates in this?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and he's a big part of the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: reason he exists.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of beneath you, except golf. It's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the place where he gets it. It's the place where
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: he knows.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: The idea that he wouldn't know what to do with
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: himself makes sense, right? If I had to guess, the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: biggest reason LeBron James is still playing basketball is what else.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Is he going to do?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And we can have all our arguments about, you could
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: run a business, you could do this, you could do that,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: all those things that we could say, but nothing else
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in the world for LeBron James is going to feel
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like LeBron James feels playing basketball.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying LeBron doesn't know who he is
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: because I think he has a much clearer sense. of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: who he is, right? His role and stuff. I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: he's very aware of those things.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: He is not a lost soul in the way that
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I feel that Tiger Woods has been a lost soul.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: But Alan Shipnuck, the golf writer, I don't know if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you saw the tweet that he put out about the.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Car wreck Tiger had in California.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: About five years ago?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And the big point that he made was that was
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not a wreck that you get in Because you fell asleep.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Like the accelerator was down. There are different questions to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: ask about what, remember when Junior.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Seau had that car wreck?
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Now, Junior Seau, I.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Think we can safely say, especially considering how things ended
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: for him, Junior Seau was trying to kill himself. I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: am not comfortable saying that Tiger Woods was trying to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: kill himself. I'm just telling you that the way that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he described that accident, that was... This is a man
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: with problems, I guess is what I'm saying. And I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not so inclined to chastise people with problems. Now, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: also think that it became clear, and we'll see what
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it all shakes out. If Tiger Woods was impaired, he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: blew a. 000 on the breathalyzer, which is to say
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: if he was impaired, it was from pills. And he
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: refused to take a urine test.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It was from pills.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And I will point this out. I've had multiple people
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: make this point that I'm about to make.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: That they.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: from personal experience, would not wish back pain upon their
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: worst enemy. And that back pain has made them sincerely
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: think about killing themselves. Like the level of back pain
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that we're talking about and all these back surgeries that
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: he's had. And I didn't realize this, Ryan, that there
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: is a school of thought where there are questions about
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: whether back surgery is a scam.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Like, whoa, boy, what a terrible scam. What a terrible
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: con that would be to play on me.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, my God.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But imagine being lost in everything else, and then you
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: have all this back pain, which certainly sends you to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: taking these pills, because Tiger Woods, he's seeing like he's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: too square to, you know, smoke weed.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can see it by the way he's
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: been walking. Yeah. He walks like a seven-year-old football player.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Like, he is.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: In pain every moment of his life.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so my inclination is not, my inclination about
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: DUI is typically not to judge as quickly as others.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And I get why people do, but I also think
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that some of that judgment or the inclination to do
• 21:45
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• 21:49
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• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Right. Right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I don't need as a non drinker.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I don't need to find these ways to try to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: rationalize the presence of alcohol and that when people do
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: dumb things because they've been using alcohol, it's not the
• 22:03
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• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It's a personal responsibility shit. Right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't I don't I don't have to
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: try to square all these ideas at the same time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I can look at it. And what I can look
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: at it, though, and say is there are very.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Few people who catch DUIs like outside of Scottsdale, Arizona,
• 22:18
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• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but there aren't that many people who are getting DUIs
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: who don't have a larger problem you know and so
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: from there to me it's like yes obviously this person
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: has done something that was selfish they planned poorly everything
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: else but it's more to it when it gets there
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: with this I would not be surprised if the answer
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: was the target was was addicted to pain medication which
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: would make him like a significant number of people in
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: this country And I doubt that was something that he
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ever wanted to do, if that's how it ended up.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But I think it's very easy for us to understand
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: how such a thing could happen. I mean, shit, it
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: happened to Prince, you know, like it's happened to so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: many people, you know, who at Prince had been a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: basic teetotaler basically forever up until that point. Like these
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: things get people. and they get a hold of him,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and they can even get a hold of Tiger Woods.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And then if it gets a hold of him, and
• 23:16
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• 23:18
  Speaker 1: come with it, man, I just came away from that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: feeling bad for him.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'm not saying that as any sort of
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  Speaker 1: that's not what I want to do because I know
• 23:35
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• 23:38
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• 23:40
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• 23:43
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• 23:49
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: We will see.
• 29:47
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  Speaker 1: was a coach at LSU, but he got caught on
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• 30:02
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• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in a tricky position, man, because I.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Mean, Ryan, you're an LSU guy. You watch it. He
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: appears to be a good coach. Is that fair to say?
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: He is certainly a better coach than they've had in
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The best coach they've had. Probably since Dale. Yeah. Post Dale.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So I mean, that's right. You guys had John
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Higher.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to say what I was just
• 30:52
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• 30:56
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• 31:02
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  Speaker 3: I understand this is a feat of self-control for you.
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  Speaker 2: And look, it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Wade is going to go back to LSU. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then LSU had already hired the athletic.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Was it already hired the president from McNeese State and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: then hired the athletic director?
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I'm lost in the deals, but clearly went and got
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: his guy from McNeese State. Yes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Was that the president or the AD?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: The AD.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they went and got the AD, and I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: think the president also came from McNeese.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody had a connection to Will Wade, is my point.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And then Will Wade, after apparently the day before telling
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the AD and ADC State, just talking about what they
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: were going to do, then his agent let him know
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that he was leaving, and he went back to LSU.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Send me an email. Will Wade's not coming back.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And there were reports for days, Will Wade's going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: go to LSU.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: The thing was, at that time, LSU had a coach.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They had not fired their coach yet. And everybody
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: knew that this was going to happen. And then the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: internet got to sleuthing. And this is the most amazing one.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: There's reason to believe that Will Wade got under contract
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on a house. February 23rd.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: This is peak college message board stuff.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: But he bought the house.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: He bought a house.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. A house in Baton Rouge. I didn't specify
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that part. NC State is in Raleigh, North Carolina. He
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: put on the house on February 23rd.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Over a month ago.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Over a month ago.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Over a month ago, he bought a house. And I
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: want to look at this with my own eyes. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: this is exactly how it went, Ryan. Two, three, four, five, six.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: After that, NC State went one and six.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: So the players clearly knew.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And not just one and six. They lost by 29
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to Virginia. They lost to an awful Notre Dame team.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: They lost by 29 to Duke. They lost to, okay,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Stanford wasn't awful, but they only lost to them by
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: one point.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Way to go. They beat Pitt. Good job.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And then they lost to Virginia, and then they got
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to the first four, and then they lost again. Coincidentally,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: their coach. By the way, this is coming off of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: beating the brakes off Carolina. And then coincidentally, it seems
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: their coach bought a house.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: In Baton Rouge. In Baton Rouge.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: LSU is looking... And look, I don't blame LSU on
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the Lane Kiffin thing. I don't think they did anything wrong.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But they did hire Lane Kiffin.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: You're going to have... Speaking of something we mentioned earlier
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: in the program, you're going to have Lane Kiffin, Kim Mulkey,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: and Will Wade in the same building.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: This is LSU coaching right here. You guys have decided
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to be the most obnoxious program in America. Which, by
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the way, can be fun. Here's the thing I'd say, though.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has to win.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Will Wade simply needs to put forth a respectable product.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Correct. Correct. Like, Will Wade has to make the tournament
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: every couple of years.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the demands of being a basketball coach in the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: SEC are not nearly as bad as they used to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: be because it used to be important to have a
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: good basketball team so that you could recruit.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Now you just need to pay them.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: It don't matter if your basketball team any good or
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: anybody's at the back, you know, cause they take them
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to basketball games on the visit.
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: So like Nick Saban was like, Hey man, we got
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to get Alabama basketball back to what it used to be.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We need to have a building that's popping. When we
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: take the people, man, they like, how about we just
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: give them some money?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: What'd you think of that?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: You know, how you get that money by having a
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: good football team.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That's it. There we go.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: All right. Let's move on to the NFL. John 49ers
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: general manager, John Winch has had to come out and,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you know, debunk the rumors about the substation near the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: prac facility, uh, came out and said it was a
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: big nothing burger. However, they have provided tangible steps to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: reduce future injuries. They've hired more PT on their staff,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: responding to, uh, bad reports from report cards from the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: NFL PA. But what was your reaction to this news?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So I got to say it is about the, the, the,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the substation thing. Cause for people who don't know, there's a,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: There's a thought that there's some kind of electrical substation
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that's near the 49ers training facility and that the internet
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: has long said that that's the reason why their players
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: keep getting hurt so much.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: It's because it weakens their bones.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: People are frightened of Bluetooth and these Wi-Fi signals. That's
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: not just these... Christian McCaffrey was talking about he has
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a switch in his house that turns the Wi-Fi off
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: at night. He's one of the... You know.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: They clearly had to get ahead of it because it
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: got to the point where the players started to believe it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: But I think this is the other part.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Your players get hurt so much that people are looking
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: outside for answers.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: That's my question.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Like, what is it about you guys where your guys
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: seem to get hurt?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And it's anecdotal.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Like, I haven't looked and done the test, you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: done any... like quantitative testing on injuries. But it feels
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: like their guys are always hurt in a league where
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: everybody else is always hurt too. But it really feels
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: like their guys are always hurt. So part of this
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: is people don't know what to believe on the internet
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: because I have received a few, is this real question
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: mark texts about that one. But also, and I say
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: this as a person with like, people ask me, but
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I got pretty good powers of discernment. I can't imagine
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: what it's like for kids that have grown up in
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this world of just being so inundated with information that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: they have no idea how to tell, right?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Like people who grow up in it. That's part of it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But the other part is y'all need to do something
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: about the fact that people get hurt so bad, so
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: much for your team that people need explanations.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, if people were like, and this is
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a story that was like started out as like a fun,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: silly thing in the middle of the season when some
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: of these injuries started to pile up and has now
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: gotten to the point where John Lynch is having to
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: have press comp answer press conferences about it in March.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Like this is sigh.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Right. Yes. It's there's a lot. It's a lot. It's
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a football story. It's an internet story. There is a
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: lot going on there. And finally, it turns out that, uh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Attending an HBCU might be beneficial for your health. A
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: study sampled nearly 2,000 black adults who attended college between
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: 1940 and 1980, 35 attended an HBCU, and those who
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: attended one had better cognition amongst all three of those
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: different time periods. HBCU black adults who attended an HBCU
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: had better memory and better cognitive function than those who
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: attended a PWI. Bo, what was your reaction to this news?
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, let me tell you something. After I graduated
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: from Clark, Atlanta, wound up going to graduate school in Claremont, California.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I had never heard of Claremont, California before when I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: got there. But I got there, and it was a consortium.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I was a graduate school, but then a consortium of
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: undergraduate institutions. And I'm going to just tell you, man,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I got off that plane. I stayed in the hotel.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I went to, we were doing like an orientation for
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: my program. And I just remember being there And I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: was surrounded by, generally speaking, whiteness in a way that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I had not in a very long time. And just
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: kind of the vibes and the way I felt people
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: looking at me. And I just remember I left and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I walked out and I saw a sign in front
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: of a house. It said the Office of Black Student Affairs.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I walked in there and they said, can I help you?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And I was like, it just felt like I need
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to be here right now. You understand what I'm saying?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I spent two years there and I was around, like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I was young enough still, like kicking with the undergrads.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at them and I'm like, You guys
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: did this on purpose, huh? Like it was so different
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: than the world I had spent the previous four years in.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And it was very clear to me that we had
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a much better time over there than they were having there.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Then when I came to North Carolina and I was
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: around those schools and I saw a level of alcohol
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: consumption that I had never seen before when I got
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: around those schools. I say all that to say I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: am not surprised at all that those numbers work out
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that way, because it really seemed like my black friends
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: who went to white schools had a whole lot more
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: on their minds and a lot more to deal with
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: than me and mine that was over here at these
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: black schools. Only to, by the way, typically end up
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: with maybe similar outcomes, not necessarily superior.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So, no, it does not.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It does not surprise me. Those schools be a dead
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: press had a song about it. But them schools be
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: driving y'all crazy. Keep up the fight.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Keep hoping live. I hear you.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo. A lot of good voicemails this week.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Start off with a favorite topic of the show.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Hey, Bomani Jones. Long-time listener. Just calling in. Just wrapped
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: up the episode with Van Latham.
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: It is almost a little reassuring to hear that our
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: good friend Joel Anderson is indeed the world's biggest hater.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Know some haters, but, you know, that story Van Lazen told,
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: and I was like, man, this dude, no money ain't
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: just ripping on him. He's just a born hater, motivated
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: out of spite. I'm here for that 100-meter dash, that 40,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: whatever I want to do. I think it would be
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: a great idea.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: Reminds me of the Ben Johnson... Don Van Bailey situation.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: He's giving me Ben Johnson vibes. I feel if he's losing,
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: he's about to pull up, say his hammy hurts and whatnot. But,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: you know, I think it's vindication for you.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Joel is a hater.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: We now know it. It has been confirmed across the world.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Love the show. Keep hating. Keep doing your thing. Have
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: a good day, man.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yo, so I appreciate this, but I need you to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: understand something. First of all, I need Joel to understand.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Ryan picked that, so you don't blame that on me.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Number two, I need... Joel really believes that it's my fault. Like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: he truly believes that if not for me.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Van confirmed this independently. We did not ask.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Right, right. Like, everything... Joel took a video this weekend.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Did you see it?
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, for those of you who did not see this.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Because they've been coming at Joel and they've been coming
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: at me about this Jay-Z thing, right? I'm getting called
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: all kinds of Uncle Tom and fake black man and.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: All of this stuff, right? Like, it is wild.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: But anyway, they've been coming at Joel, too, because Joel
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: had some similar thoughts to the thoughts that I had.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: They had Joel so heated. that Joel was in the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: front seat of his car, ashy, and he said he
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: was ashy.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: With the baby in the back.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: No, the baby wasn't in the back. The baby was
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: in his lap. And he rolled for five minutes.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And at the.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Top of it, you know, the stereotypes that my friends,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Bobani Jones and Van Lathan, have been stereotypes about him.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Just think about that for a moment.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: A stereotype about one man.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: These stereotypes that Beaumont Jones and Van Lathan saying about
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: me about how I, you know, can't let us, you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I got to respond to every slight, but, and then
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: he said he just had to do it. And by
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the way, all his points were valid. I agreed with
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: every word that he had to say. But he says
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it's my fault.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I will say I love Joel. I love Joel in
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: every pod he's on.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: You did do it.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Joel responding his critics. That's the podcast I enjoy the most.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Joel going, I hate to make this comparison because it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: going to make him very mad. Full Stephen A.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yo, I hadn't thought about this.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: We need to send Joel one of them suits and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a stack of funny money so that he can come
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: out here and start throwing money on the ground when.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: The time comes. That's my favorite podcast that Joel's on.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: That's including this one.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should do that once or twice to entertain
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the fans or something, right?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Nah, I won't.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: Hey, Bomani. This is Edmund in Phoenix, Arizona. I'm a
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: fifth grade teacher and I watch my students engage in
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: this horrible youth sports culture. And I was hanging with
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: a friend of mine in Denver.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: This past weekend.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: His sister is a big time player in wealth management
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: in Denver.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: And she was explaining to.
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: Me that private equity is all over youth sports right now,
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: investing into youth sports. And I just want to kind
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: of hear your opinions on that. It did not surprise
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: me at all because, as you said on the podcast
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: many times, what has private equity made better? Anyway, just
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: love to hear what you think about it. Big fan
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: of the show. See you.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: My buddy Jay Caspian Kang of The New Yorker wrote
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a very interesting piece about this last June.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I think he has a book coming out.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as I say, if I'm not mistaken.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: He is writing a book about this very topic. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: think my thoughts on this are exactly what you would
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: think that my thoughts were on this, that it's bad.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: But we're also what we're also seeing is I mean,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: we see this playing out now. These games are being
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: played by middle class and upper middle class kids more
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: so like sports is sports will not long be a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: way for people to flip their economic fortunes in this
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: country as they have been previously. And I think this
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: becomes a much more acute situation now that there's money
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: to be made in college. Like, there is room to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: create what is actually and truly generational wealth for a
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: lot of people on a level playing field because of
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the money that's now there for playing college sports.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: But the same.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: People that always got the money trying to figure out
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: ways to keep it and to take it from other
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: people now aren't there.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Alright, here's our next one.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: What's going on, Bo? I... Grew up playing soccer, attended
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: a Division I school in the Carolinas in the late 2010s.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: College basketball was never top of my radar. My freshman
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: year in college was 2013. Duke had a team that
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I was drawn towards, and I believe the starting five
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: was all black, and I believe that year they won
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the national championship. I've never really had a team to
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: pull for. I liked that Duke team. I tend to
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: pay attention to them. I understand, historically, that's not really
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: the team that I should ride with.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Should I feel bad.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Rooting for this Duke team?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yes!
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: To win the National Championship?
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: Hell yeah!
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Please let me know if I'm entirely off-base here.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: So what was it, the 99 team he said he
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: rooted for before or the 2015?
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's the 2015 team.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: They had Grayson fucking Allen. I understand they're starting fouls off.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Justice Winslow kicking people in the nuts.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: He was doing something real dookie. Grayson Allen hadn't even
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: got his foot in under him yet. To become that guy.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: The answer to your question is there's something wrong with it,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: but luckily the point is moot because they lost. They
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: lost when White Braylon frantically heaved a three-pointer from the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: logo and it went straight through your heart.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Because Lil Boozer. I have somebody hit me on the text.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Booze and lose, baby. Booze and lose.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: Yo, Bomani, this is Nestor calling you from Maryland. So
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I live real close to D.C., about 15 minutes away.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: But this boy Dewey, he's also from Maryland, but he's
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: from Charles County, Maryland. So what you need to know
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: about Charles County is people that are close to D.C.,
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: we say we need to catch a flight out to
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: Charles County. Like, it's pretty far away. But my boy,
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: he knew Dewey. And so this whole Dewey situation, you know, got, uh,
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: got cracking. And so me and my boys, the group chat,
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: we were like, yo, this boy's from Maryland.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: This is crazy.
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: This is that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: And so, you know, I think that's something you didn't
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: touch on that needs to be kind of investigated is
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: how did they handcuff my boy? And so one of
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: my boys said, yo, I mean, they must have wrapped
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: him up. You know what I mean? Like a little
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: burrito type because you can't really put handcuffs on that boy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: And another person said, yo, I mean, they caught him
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: red-handed apparently. But all jokes aside, what's really interesting is
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: one of my homies, the homie that lives in Charles County,
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: told us that Steve Dewey was part– of his bowling league.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: So not only was this quadruple amputee laying the bags,
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: murdering people, but apparently he could also do a little
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: bit of bowling.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: Love the show.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Peace.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Dewey sounds like legitimately inspirational. If
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Dewey could have just held it in the road. Now
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I understand why people are writing articles about him. Y'all
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: keep talking about Jay-Z, talking about I will not lose,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: won't let nothing stop him, look where he came.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: That boy Dewey.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Are you saying Dewey pulled himself up by his own bootstraps?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am. That's America right there.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what, I guarantee you Dewey wouldn't
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: do it either. Dewey wouldn't vote for no goddamn Democrats.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. Dewey got himself where
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: he was from how he did and all this stuff.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you who ain't trying to hear none
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: of your excuses. Dewey. Think how mad Dewey was when
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't help him with the Biden.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, fine, I'll do it myself. Like I do
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: everything else. Because I do everything. You don't do everything,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: but I do.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: You're saying Dewey wasn't asking for a handout?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to break. I'm not going to break.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, if he was still out there, are you
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: not concerned that he would be armed and dangerous?
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: He would be dangerous. He sure would.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Good job, though. Nice try.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: Hey, Bo, how's it going? This is Jason from Vegas.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: Long time listener. Ever since you got on Around the Horn,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: I've been following you your content all over the place.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: You know, I love what you're doing.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: So I'm calling because of funny names. So I work
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: in a casino as a supervisor and I had these
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: two women sit down on my table, one black, one white,
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: and they both handed me their player cards. Now, well,
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: the player cards are sitting on the table. So I
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: go to swipe them in. And as I hand the
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: cards back to them, I hand the card to the
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: white girl and Martha. I hand the card to.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: The black girl, Kenesha.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: They look at me and they tell me, oh, you
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: gave us the wrong cards. And I was like, excuse me?
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: This white girl's name was Kenesha. K-U-N-E-S-H-A. Kenesha. That was
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: one that drew me. I had another instance, real quick,
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: make it fast, where I had another little white girl
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: sit down on the game. She handed me her player's card.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: The name on the card was L-A-C-R-E-I-A. And I'm sitting
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: here looking at this name like, I know this name,
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: but I think it is. And I asked her, and
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: I was like, Miss, how do I say your name?
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: And she looked me in the face and she said,
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: my name is Lucretia. And I just started laughing, Bo.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: I couldn't get over it. And her boyfriend looked at
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: me and he's like, what's so funny? I was like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: because that's a very black name for a very white girl.
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: Anyway, Bo, love what you do.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Keep doing your thing.
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: First of all, boyfriend, why are you asking questions you
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: know the answer to?
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Do I just say that hasn't come up before?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: You did the same thing, man. I don't remember if
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I told you about this one. One of my partners,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: he might be listening. We never got around to talking
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: But we was out one night. I was out somewhere.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: And he was with this girl. And I hadn't met
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: her before. And he introduced me to her. And he
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, this is Beaumont. And she goes, hi.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I'm Lakeisha. And I'm like, I'm sorry, what did you say? Lakeisha. Oh,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: nice to meet you.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: But that what did you say was the most sincere
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: thing I'd ever said in my.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Life because there wasn't no way. Wasn't no way. And
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I bet you go through this every time. Right?
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: This has to come up regularly.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. You understand what time it is here. You
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like, wow. What a time. What
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: a time.
• 54:35
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• 54:37
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• 54:40
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• 54:42
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• 54:43
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• 54:56
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• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Take it easy.