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10-12 H4: MMQB w/ Hugh Millen & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think that other than a bad interception or play
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: or two, I think he's played really well since his return.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I feel that way about yesterday's performance, though.
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  Speaker 2: What is your evaluation of 14 yesterday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, watching the tape, it would be hard for me
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  Speaker 3: to say he had a good game. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he was seeing things right. He was turning down open receivers.
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  Speaker 3: He was failing to turn down guys, obviously, in a
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  Speaker 3: couple of interceptions there. Now, I do think he was
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  Speaker 3: pressured a lot. Right now, he stands as the fifth
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  Speaker 3: most pressured in the league. So I think that there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guys in his lap, and it's not
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  Speaker 3: real easy to play. But then there was other times
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  Speaker 3: where he had really good protection. So, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can whistle through some of
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  Speaker 3: these plays.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we can whistle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. So the first sack, this is just chronologically.
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  Speaker 3: First sack, he had– now I think that the 49ers
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  Speaker 3: had a beat on this.
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  Speaker 1: This is an early.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the script, and I think they were ready
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  Speaker 3: for this. Double sticks by the inside, that's the– That's
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  Speaker 3: the square out, and then the speed outs on the outside.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody jumped it, but JSN was open there. He turned
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  Speaker 3: it down and then went elsewhere. Everybody was covered, and
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  Speaker 3: he gets a sack. The interception, it's really a testament
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  Speaker 3: to how Rasheed Shaheed is not fitting in because you
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  Speaker 3: had a mirrored what's called oaky routes, the 10, 12-yard
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  Speaker 3: out routes, And to Darnold's left, where Shahid was, the
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  Speaker 3: corner was way off. I mean, that was Diamador Lenore.
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  Speaker 3: He was at least two yards further back. But he
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  Speaker 3: went with JSN, and Renardo Green's number zero was just squatting.
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  Speaker 3: The term is squat. And had there been the double
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  Speaker 3: move like we saw by JSN– in the third play
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  Speaker 3: of the game against the Cardinals for the 80-yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Had Seattle done that, probably would have been the same
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  Speaker 3: result because he's squatting. But he's got to see it.
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  Speaker 3: But I also look and I say, why wasn't he
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  Speaker 3: going left pre-snap? He should say, I'm going to take Shahid.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just another example of how that's not coming together.
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  Speaker 3: Seattle does not have a number two receiver. I'll just
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  Speaker 3: say it, you know, hard stop. And that play is
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  Speaker 3: an indicator. And by the way, Shahid ran his route
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  Speaker 3: too few of steps. So he didn't even run it right.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe that's why Darnold isn't looking over it. But
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  Speaker 3: that's a problem in my mind. He turned down JSN
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  Speaker 3: on an arrow route, which is just a quick dart
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  Speaker 3: to the sideline after he had thrown that pick. So
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  Speaker 3: now he got a little bit tentative and he comes
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  Speaker 3: back to Cup over the middle. Ball got deflected there.
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  Speaker 3: There was two plays, guys, where I swear almost back-to-back
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  Speaker 3: that there was a bust by Seattle. You had A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Barner and J.S. Ann coming in routes at the exact
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  Speaker 3: same levels, and that almost repeated it with J.S. Ann
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  Speaker 3: and Cup. And I don't know. I mean, you could say, well,
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  Speaker 3: hit either in route right off the break, but you
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  Speaker 3: don't see that kind of spacing. So, so I think
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  Speaker 3: there's a few things where I was going, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I put BF, Brian Flory, like what, how about the screens?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, two tight end screens to Barner, uh, one,
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  Speaker 3: you drop, uh, you know, cause it's a mess and, and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: hell it could have been intercepted when he had the dirt.
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  Speaker 3: He had another, um, he had another screen to, uh, Wilson, uh,
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  Speaker 3: where his eyes, you look out and cup was wide
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  Speaker 3: open in the flat. Hey, just throw it to him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're going to get eight yards. Your eyes
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  Speaker 3: are there, even though the screen is called. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're looking there, and usually you're taught, hey, if that
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  Speaker 3: first receiver is there, just throw it. Who cares if
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  Speaker 3: you have a screen? Because they only got two yards
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  Speaker 3: coming back. So on three screen passes, they got two yards.
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  Speaker 3: You know, receipt to heed. You're trying to get him
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  Speaker 3: on a Z post. And, Darnold, this is very poor
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  Speaker 3: that he throws into double coverage. They had the coverage
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  Speaker 3: they want, which is quarter, quarter, half, where you're cloud
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  Speaker 3: to one side, which is denying free access, but then
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  Speaker 3: you're corner off on the other. And the safety's in
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  Speaker 3: a position– here's the safety's responsibility– If the tight end
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  Speaker 3: comes at him, in this case, Barner, and he gets
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  Speaker 3: vertical more than 10 yards, then you've got to cover him.
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  Speaker 3: And then that leaves Shahid one-on-one with the corner. But
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  Speaker 3: if Barner doesn't get vertical and he runs the six-yard
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  Speaker 3: in route, which he did, the safety is just going
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  Speaker 3: to turn and double team. So Darnold knows this. That's
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  Speaker 3: fundamental to that coverage. And yet, I would say to
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  Speaker 3: Brian Flory, if you're trying to get a post route
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  Speaker 3: to receipt to heed, you, you gotta have Barner on
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  Speaker 3: a vertical route. You could sit them down at 12.
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  Speaker 3: You could run a double, a post, but you've got
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  Speaker 3: to do something to occupy that safety as it was.
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  Speaker 3: Darnold throws it into double coverage. Very poor by Darnold,
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  Speaker 3: but I would say very poor by Brian Flory. There's
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  Speaker 3: another time where you try and get a double move,
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  Speaker 3: a stutter go at about 10 yards to get Sheehy.
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  Speaker 3: That play is designed to get a touchdown. The next
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  Speaker 3: play is supposed to be a Myers kick and a PAT. Now,
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you're going to get it, but you
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  Speaker 3: want to get the most favorable look. Well, they set
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  Speaker 3: the formation so that the 49ers, they roll to that side.
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  Speaker 3: The safety is 20 yards back. So, like, it's a wasted–
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  Speaker 3: it's a wasted opportunity because they matched the coverage to
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  Speaker 3: the formation. So they're on a double slant to Shahid,
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  Speaker 3: and Shahid got his face ripped off by the safety
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  Speaker 3: coming down. Do you remember that? Yeah, Mustafa blew him up,
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  Speaker 3: almost got him killed. And on that point, okay, you're
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  Speaker 3: from shotgun. You can't go shotgun three steps. The ball's
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  Speaker 3: going to be late. If you're from shotgun, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to throw that inside slant. You got to just go
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  Speaker 3: take your right foot back, put in the ground and go.
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  Speaker 3: Ball's out.
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  Speaker 1: One step.
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  Speaker 3: One step. And three-step is guaranteed to be late, and
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  Speaker 3: it was late. And so, you know, it should have
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  Speaker 3: been a penalty, right? It should have been a targeting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, I mean, I could keep going, but
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  Speaker 3: I probably ought to hit on that second interception. So
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  Speaker 3: you've got the 49ers playing a three deep zone with
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  Speaker 3: four underneath. You've got, by the time you motion away,
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  Speaker 3: you have technically Arroyo who's in a wing, which is
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  Speaker 3: just a hip, one yard behind the tight end and
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  Speaker 3: one yard outside. He's going to run a deep angle
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  Speaker 3: crossing round. The formation that they chose to do that,
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  Speaker 3: means the corner, even though it's zoned underneath, the corner's
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  Speaker 3: going to run with him. And I would have rather
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  Speaker 3: had it trips formation, put the Z, keep the corner
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  Speaker 3: on the Z. Now, instead of Arroyo being number one,
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  Speaker 3: meaning the closest to the sideline and being covered by
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  Speaker 3: the corner, then now he'd have been zoned. You could
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  Speaker 3: have had him in the same wing position, just put
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  Speaker 3: a receiver out there. It's just called, you know, trips
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  Speaker 3: right wing if, you know, they use common vernacular. And
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  Speaker 3: And now Arroyo doesn't have to beat a corner who's
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  Speaker 3: a lot faster than him. And so I hate the formation,
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  Speaker 3: particularly when you consider that everybody else is playing zone,
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  Speaker 3: but they're running with the number one with the corner.
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  Speaker 3: And so the angle of it, you know, Darnold, to
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  Speaker 3: his credit, he said, yeah, he was expecting that high angle.
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe that that it would have been better
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  Speaker 3: if he had flattened it, but they had discussed they
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  Speaker 3: want to take the high angle, so Darnold's got to
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  Speaker 3: throw that over the top. But you're asking Darnold to
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  Speaker 3: beat the underneath zone coverage, the two hook defenders in
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  Speaker 3: the middle, the two curl flat defenders outside of them,
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  Speaker 3: so he's got to see the underneath zone coverage, and
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  Speaker 3: then he's got to have the precision on man-to-man with
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  Speaker 3: a corner chasing a tight end and all that speed.
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  Speaker 3: So you're asking him basically to hit a target the
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  Speaker 3: size of a coffee mug over the top of the corner.
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  Speaker 3: And it's unnecessary. You don't have to do it from
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  Speaker 3: that formation. So didn't like that. Didn't like the throw.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't like the concept. You know, I think Darnold was
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  Speaker 3: late on it. They tried to do a smoke rail
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  Speaker 3: where they faked to Shahid on the wide receiver screen,
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  Speaker 3: and then JSN released up the sideline. Darnold looked, and
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  Speaker 3: then he kind of went back to the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the field, and then he looked to throw again, and
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  Speaker 3: he got sacked. And that should have just been like
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  Speaker 3: a quick shoulder shimmy on the sideline, and then boom,
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  Speaker 3: it gets up right now. So I thought it was late.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he takes a sack on a boot left.
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  Speaker 3: And you're looking at Charles Cross, and he's blocking as
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  Speaker 3: if it's a drop back. Charles Cross should be pinning
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  Speaker 3: that guy inside. So I thought Cross missed some things, and.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it just seemed out of rhythm.
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  Speaker 2: Everything seemed out of rhythm. It seemed like the game
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  Speaker 2: was moving fast. For Sam and a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: credit goes to the San Francisco 49ers. Obviously, they put
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  Speaker 2: a lot of heat on him and they were an
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  Speaker 2: agent in creating it to be that dysfunctional.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it just.
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  Speaker 2: Felt like he could not slow the game down. That's
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  Speaker 2: how it felt to me watching from home.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just think his decision-making, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think that there's times open guys, he either wasn't on
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  Speaker 3: time or he turned it down. And, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: I said, I think he was under pressure that final
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  Speaker 3: play involving Cup in the dive. Cup was wide open.
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  Speaker 3: That was a hell of a job by Brian Flory.
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  Speaker 3: Got the man, Cup was on a shell across. It
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  Speaker 3: would have been an easy first down. But Charles Cross
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  Speaker 3: misses his block, so Darnold has to step up. And
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  Speaker 3: then now he got additional pressure. He had to move
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  Speaker 3: and float. And so Charles Cross losing the play early
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  Speaker 3: in the down killed the play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I suppose we should talk about the drop
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  Speaker 3: by JSN just from a quarterback perspective. It's called a
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  Speaker 3: two-man where you're man-to-man underneath and the defenders can ride
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  Speaker 3: underneath because they know they have a, a safety on
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  Speaker 3: each half of the field. And, uh, you know, corner
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  Speaker 3: route is actually a good route against that. Jason ran
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  Speaker 3: a good route, but when Darnold is throwing, uh, he
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  Speaker 3: had good protection, you know, trying to get the angle. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: is he going to be flat? Is it going to
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  Speaker 3: be higher? Wow. It takes so much time to get
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  Speaker 3: that right. And, and Darnold thought he, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: just going to go a little bit higher. I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that, that, um, I would criticize Darnold
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  Speaker 3: nor JSN. It's just the cost of doing business. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you just don't quite have the angle. It wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: perfect throw. Based on where JSN chose his angle, you
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  Speaker 3: would have liked to flatten him out to the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: It would have been an easy catch. As it was,
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  Speaker 3: it was a tough catch, but certainly that goes into
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  Speaker 3: the category of a drop. JSN's got to, in the moment,
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  Speaker 3: be better. Of course, he's capable. I mean, I asked
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  Speaker 3: my We were talking amongst us in the press box,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, I don't know if there's ever been
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  Speaker 3: a Seattle Seahawk who's ever played his position as well
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  Speaker 3: or better than JSN. That's Walter Jones. That's Cortez Kennedy.
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  Speaker 3: We got some Hall of Famers. That would be a
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  Speaker 3: big statement. I'm not going to try and cement that
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  Speaker 3: and make some claim that can't be backed up, but
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  Speaker 3: But that's how good the guy is. Just the fact
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  Speaker 3: that we could be in that discussion at this stage
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  Speaker 3: in his career. And yet, you know, he didn't meet
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  Speaker 3: his own standards on that play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't an easy catch, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, his body was sort of contorted, but he just, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he just didn't pull it in. We just expect him
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  Speaker 2: to make.
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  Speaker 1: That grab every single time.
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  Speaker 3: Excellent point. But I do, I'm not sure if I
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  Speaker 3: made the point clear. When I watched the game live. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking that Darnold, that ball should be pulled
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  Speaker 3: more to the sideline. I thought that there was more
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  Speaker 3: blame on Darnold. I still thought it was more. I
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  Speaker 3: never thought that it was equal. I always thought JSN
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  Speaker 3: had more blame. But I thought that Sam Darnold had
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  Speaker 3: a pretty healthy blame in it, maybe 30%, 40%. When
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  Speaker 3: I watched the tape and I saw his timing and
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  Speaker 3: what he would have expected, It's as I tried to describe.
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  Speaker 3: It's just he thought the angle was going to be
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  Speaker 3: a little higher. JSN flattened it out. A high angle
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  Speaker 3: would have been good, too, because he was open. The
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  Speaker 3: flatter angle would be good, too. It won't make quite
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  Speaker 3: as many yards. I mean, if you throw the high
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  Speaker 3: angle and you get it, you might score there. If
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  Speaker 3: you do the flatter angle... you're not going to score,
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  Speaker 3: but you have a higher percentage chance of getting a completion.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just, you know, there's different coaches that philosophically, hey,
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  Speaker 3: give me the high angle because if we hit it,
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  Speaker 3: I want to score. You know, others say, no, I
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  Speaker 3: want the completion. So we could go round and round
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  Speaker 3: on that, but it was just they, you know, one
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  Speaker 3: was zigging, one was zagging. In my mind, there's no
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  Speaker 3: blame that way. It wasn't the throw. It was Darnold's
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  Speaker 3: interpretation of where will And he put it on that spot,
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  Speaker 3: and he just was off by a yard, and that
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  Speaker 3: made the more difficult throw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the hips were not quite there.
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  Speaker 2: The hands were not quite there, and the ball was
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  Speaker 2: not quite.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like a little bit off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a bad time to be a little off, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet he still almost always makes that catch anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Anything that hits his hands, he usually brings in. Did
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  Speaker 2: Cup get the first down or not?
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  Speaker 3: Well, as I understand it, it's– think about this. This
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  Speaker 3: is how stupid the NFL officiating and all it can be.
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  Speaker 3: This is not the goat herder's fault. This is the
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  Speaker 3: rules committee. But think about– down on the goal line–
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  Speaker 3: you can jump and the goal line plane extends around
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  Speaker 3: the globe, right? So you can be as far out
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  Speaker 3: of bounds as you want. But the first down, but
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  Speaker 3: the spot to make the first down, which you would
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  Speaker 3: think would mirror the goal line, like the same rules
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  Speaker 3: would apply, but no, if you jump, it's where does
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  Speaker 3: the ball cross the sideline plane? And so by that
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  Speaker 3: interpretation of I think they probably got it right, or
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  Speaker 3: at least there wasn't enough to overturn. Right. But I
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  Speaker 3: think it's kind of silly that you have, you know,
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  Speaker 3: where we get used to one interpretation for the goal line,
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  Speaker 3: and in essence, if you think of the first down
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  Speaker 3: line as like a goal line, every time we snap
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  Speaker 3: the ball, there's a goal line.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You know, 10 yards away if it's first and 10.
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  Speaker 3: And so I don't feel cheated on that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel cheated, but I do think that Cooper
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  Speaker 2: Cup probably did get it because he has such court awareness.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think that if the official who might
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  Speaker 2: have been out of place gives him the benefit of
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  Speaker 2: the doubt, they weren't going to overrule it. So it
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  Speaker 2: really did come down to that official and his ruling
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  Speaker 2: on a play that I don't think that they proved.
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  Speaker 3: Was short of the first down. You know, now that you, you,
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned all this, let's dump it on the goat herders.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he was a little bit out of place,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, nobody got ripped by the goat
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  Speaker 2: herders like Kalen DeBoer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God.
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  Speaker 3: That's, that's the old time pratfall by the goat herders. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a thousand, 10,000 out of 10,000 fans, expert,
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  Speaker 3: former officials, former coaches, whomever, um, There's not one out
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  Speaker 3: of 10,000 that would say that's not pass interference.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Man, did he get jobbed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think he got jobbed twice.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's why he was so angry
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  Speaker 2: at his player because he was still fuming over the,
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  Speaker 2: not that he shouldn't have been angry at his player
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  Speaker 2: as well, but he was so fuming at the two
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  Speaker 2: calls that went against them.
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  Speaker 1: That anything was going to set him off.
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  Speaker 2: If he would have, if he would have walked into the,
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  Speaker 2: you know, back to the back bench and somebody had
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: left a jar of mayonnaise open, he was going to
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  Speaker 2: go off on whoever, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, grandma DeBoer would have gotten an earful.
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  Speaker 3: We got purple Gatorade dot blue. What are, who did this?
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, I agree with you, but, uh, you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: and we don't, we don't know how much, uh, effort and,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And discussion they've had about not retaliating too, right? Clearly
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks did that. I mean, with the youth team,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: once I lined them, I lined us up and, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: paired everybody up and then had Stan three and then
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: do a fake slow motion punch. And then I had
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: all my guys raise their hand and take three steps back.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: The guy who got the punch, raise your hand. Like,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: this is not the time to prove you're a tough guy.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: There's officials, there's guys in black and white handle this.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: But I would practice like, hey, you just got punched,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: raise your hand, take three steps back. Essentially kind of
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: what Ernest Jones was doing after he got, you know, like, hey,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and you can see that that was a big point
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: of emphasis.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know that they lined guys up and did
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: fake punches like I did with my 12-year-olds, but they
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: did something like that and maybe, Maybe DeBoer had already
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: done a drill like that, and he's like, I'm not
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: getting through to these guys.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Anyways. Yeah, he was already a race car in the red.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: He was already red. And then all of a sudden
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you have to deal with that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Do not think that is yours.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's not.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's from Pulp Fiction. I stole that from Pulp Fiction.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: That's John Travolta. I'm a race car in the red
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: right now, Jules.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: See, I forget everything.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: All right, one more segment with our Monday morning quarterback,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Hugh Millen, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: These two things by saying this. I'm in total agreement.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Your first.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: comments about the Seahawks were my first comments this morning
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: as well, where I kind of felt the exact same
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: way as I did after the first 49ers-Seahawks game a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: year ago. I felt the better team lost the game
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and can't wait to face them again because I think
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that Mike McDonald will have ironed out these wrinkles, these
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: different sets of wrinkles that we've confronted here the last
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: three weeks. If it was the same ongoing problem, I'd
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: be a little more worried. There's been three different things.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So I have every confidence that we'll track down the 49ers,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and I think we'll beat the tar out of them
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the next time that we face.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Them, quite frankly.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Talk to me.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if I feel the same way
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: after what I watched Friday night. I'm not sure I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: feeling that confident about that Husky turnaround at.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: This point, Hugh.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Well, it feels, and I agree with you, like a
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: year ago, the Seahawks were 3-2 with a home loss
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: to the 49ers, which is exactly where they are right now.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And it's good that they're kind of chasing where they
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: want to be. They're looking forward. If they were 5-0
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: right now, eventually they'd you know you know a wheel
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: a lug net to get loose and then they'd be
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: going oh why can't we just play like we were
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: you know so at least they're they're they're working to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: uh to to refine as far as the huskies it
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: feels really grim and uh you know with the quarterback
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you know there's a bonafide quarterback controversy uh in my
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: mind right now i think enough of the The Husky
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: brass would love to see Eliza Brown kind of seen
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: enough of DeMond Williams. So I think that it's about
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: as in flux as it could possibly be. And, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: as bad as you could have reasonably anticipated at this
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: juncture of the season.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: How do you explain, I mean, how much of that
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: for Elijah Brown was, you know, Iowa's got a big
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: lead and, you know, the defense may have softened up
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Also, his ability to just get rid
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of the ball quickly versus an offensive line that didn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: seem to be protecting DeMond and hasn't seemed to protected
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: him well all this year. And then DeMond Williams Jr.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: just certainly not playing good football at this point. So
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: how do you make sense of all of those elements?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about this for years. One of the
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: biggest fallacies I think we make as fans is we
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: look at a play that DeMond or another athletic quarterback
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: makes and we say, man, it's a good thing we
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: have him because our less athletic quarterback would be taking
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: even more sacks. And the facts throughout the different eras,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what era you go back to, it just
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't square. The athletic quarterbacks always take more sacks because
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: they take more chances. And the less athletic guys, they
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: know they have to beat the sacks with knowing where
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to go with the ball right now. I mean, about
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: all I can say that no Husky fan can dispute
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: or anybody who has watched I know that DeMond Williams
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: has punt returner skills in terms of his twitch and
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: his elusiveness. So he's a punt returner that at the picnic,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: if he's throwing the ball around with your cousins, you'd say, man,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that punt returner throws a pretty good ball too. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: he throws the ball well, and he's unquestionably twitchy and elusive.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: But there's a big gap between that and playing the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: position well. And so what you saw with Elijah Brown,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: he came in and he just stood in his spot
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and he just said, hey, I know where I got
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to get out of the ball. Now, he's been a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: scout team quarterback. I know I technically I could say this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I was truly a professional scout team quarterback.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Why can I say that? Because I was a backup
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: more than I was a starter. When you're the backup,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: you're going against the number one defense. And you know
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: to get completions, you have to– you basically better figure
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: out where your number one is. Like I got one
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: spot to go with the ball, maybe two at best.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: But I don't have– you know, the playbook might say, hey,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: my third and fourth. That stuff ain't happening. I got
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: to find my first, maybe second, and that's it because
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: everything is going to cave in on me. So he
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: played like a scout team quarterback, like just– I better
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: find the one guy to get the ball out of
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: my hand, and he did. There's a levels concept that
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Peyton Manning used to run with the Colts, and he
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: looked to his left, came back, and he was just
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: firing through his progressions. Now, you did raise a very
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: essential point. I think we all know this, but I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: think that maybe there's a tendency to try and disregard it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: There was a big difference in intensity. Just because Elijah
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Brown made the plays and put up the statistics he
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: did when it was 27-0 and thereafter does not mean
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: that he could have done that at 0-0 with Iowa.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I do not believe that. I don't know what multiplier
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: you put on. Is it. 9,. 95,. 7? But it
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: would be, in my mind, fallacious to not put a
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: multiplier on his performance based on the circumstances of the game.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Can we agree on that?
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what it is.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You want to say it's. 4 or whatever? I'm sure,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you know, DeMond's kin is probably saying. 1. You know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: like multiply that thing down, you know. But, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: we'll see. You know, Purdue handled Minnesota. I think Jetfish,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: it's going to be very interesting today. There's going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: be a very interesting game. press conference and what seems
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: like would be the most probable is to just say
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: well you know demand's not quite a hundred percent you
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: know and then we can kind of just put it
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: in the injury category and then we get another look
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: at elijah brown that that seems like the most logical
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: thing that's going to play out today but i don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: know what's going to play i don't it could be
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: elijah brown's the starter For, uh, for non injury reasons.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I think that meaning if, if we, I don't think
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: jet fish is going to come up and say, Demond
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Williams is cleared. He's totally, he's healthy enough to start,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to start Elijah Brown.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to say that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So I think it's either Demond Williams is going to start,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: but I think that, that he is, is, is going
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: to want to see Elijah Brown. And I think we're
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: going to be able to, there's enough ambiguity around the,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the Williams injury. that we can kind of just say, hey,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Eliza Brown's starting because DeMond Williams is not 100% healthy,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: and then just let him take the Purdue game and
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: then assess from there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Very strange that we are in the college football world
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and can make the statement, you're paying him so much money,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he has to play. But that sentiment is there now.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Do we feel that way?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but it does.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I've seen the conversation being held. And it just seems
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: strange that we would have that about college football.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I think if politics– as players, we used to just
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: call it politics, put that in the big bucket of politics.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: If politics are going to play a part, I feel
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: like it's not the money. I think it's the– that's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: the guy that he pulled him up here from Arizona,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and that's the guy he's rode. That's the guy he
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: said he's going to get him to New York. to
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: be a Heisman semifinalist, and he's the face of the program.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jed chose an interesting quarterback to hitch his
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: wagon to. You know, you think of how does a
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: coach hitch a wagon to a quarterback? Well, I've been
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: watching it for a couple years, and he has. And
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: so I would think the politics would be in that
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: subcategory as opposed to the money, but maybe I'm not.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we always say, The answer to
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: all your questions is money, so maybe it will simply
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: be money. But at any event, I think it'll be
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: interesting who lines up under center for the first play
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: against Purdue.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And it does need to be mentioned, it wasn't just
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a quarterback or offense thing. That was an entire effort
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: of just horrible football on Friday.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: The defense.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Iowa wide receivers running wide open in your
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: end zone, a running back you couldn't stop. I mean,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: it was all-encompassing failure on Friday night.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Amen. You said it better than I could say. In
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: every regard, every facet, it was a beatdown of rare
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: proportions by a program that's probably in the upper half
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: of the Big Ten this year. Um, but man, they
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: look good. They look good. There was a certain grit
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: to them. They lost to Ohio state. They were playing
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: on a short week and they came out and they, uh,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, the, the, the, they drag the Huskies
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: into the octagon and they say, Hey, by the way,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: close the doors behind it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Lock the doors.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: We want these Huskies. Yeah. We don't want them to escape.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: There's going to be a beat down like none other.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: So they tip the hat to them. All right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, man.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: We'll do it again later this week.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon, our Monday morning quarterback joining us here today.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Next year from him on Thursday with our 12th man, Finally,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Hugh and Greg back together again, hopefully this week.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But we'll close out our Monday edition of Chalk in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the Mornings with one last thing next.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. All right, final segment of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: this Monday edition of Chuck in the Morning.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: So you got Greg Bell, Jessamyn McIntyre coming your way next,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: coming up at 10 o'clock here today.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But let's go around the room. One last thing. What
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: do you got over there, Anders?
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Well, a lot's been said about the turnovers in the
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Seahawks game. A lot's been said about the fumbles in
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks game. One thing that I did notice that
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: was very un-Mike McDonald-like was the lack of run defense.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: They didn't really go to it a ton because they
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: found something that worked in Mike Evans on Josh Jobe
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: and just kept spamming that. But Christian McCaffrey averaged over
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: six yards a carry. And it seemed like whenever they
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: needed to stop the few times the Niners had to
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: drive the full length of the field, it was either
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: a key play on third down to Mike Evans or
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: it was second and short because of an eight yard
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: run on first down. from Christian McCaffrey, even Kalon Black
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: a couple times as well. So, yes, the defense, I think,
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: mostly played pretty dang good, but those couple bad spots,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: including the run defense, which, again, on the list of
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: things that went wrong is pretty low, but it's something
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: that I'm not used to saying about this Seahawks team.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: We talked all about the too-high shell and their ability
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: to stop the run when they leave it in the
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: too-high shell. They didn't really have the success that they
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: normally do in that aspect yesterday.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I actually think the defense played great. I think so, too.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: They allowed 154 total yards through three quarters. I do
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: think they got tired eventually, and I don't agree with
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Mike dismissing the question about whether or not Josh Jobe
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: was the right matchup for Evans down the stretch, because
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Evans was.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Dominant.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was basically doing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: The, like, the guy where the long-armed guy puts his...
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: palm on his forehead and then the short arm guy
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: swings at him i mean that's basically that was the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: wide receiver cornerback equivalent of that i mean there there
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: are a lot of things i mean there are a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: lot of things that this team's not functioning well with
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: and it seems like there's a big issue every single
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: week but it's a different issue every single week i
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: still think they're going to be fine i think that
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: this is a when your head coach says i hate
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: early season games.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Because I don't have enough film to study.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And then you were 3-2 a year ago and ended
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: up winning the Super Bowl.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to fix it all.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I hope so.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Eventually. But right now, it's not fixed. There's no question.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: All right, kid, what's your one last thing?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Speaking of fixed, the Chargers, they are... I think they
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: have a strong possibility of going 0-9 and not getting
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: their first win until November 22nd. So right now, they
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: play the Chiefs coming up next Sunday. Will not be favored.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Probably will lose that game. Then they go to the Rams,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: November 1st. Probably lose that game. Then you play the Texans.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Probably lose that game. And then I would imagine Lamar
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Jackson will be back. You play the Ravens. Then they
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: have the Jets. That might be their first win of
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: the season. That is November 22nd.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: So I have a... If there was a.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: If I could throw $ 100 down that they lose their
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: next four games, I probably would do that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: They are getting a little bit better every week.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: A little closer to winning.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Every single week. But, yeah, I don't see them winning
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: in the next four.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Where they were supposed to win was Cardinals-Raiders to start
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the year. And then can we get one of the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: next three against Bills, Seahawks, and Broncos? But, man, that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: is one hell of a schedule. Bills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams, Texans, Ravens.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And I remember during.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: What?
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: We had our fantasy draft. late in August, and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: remember someone taking Herbert. I'm like, have you seen the schedule?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they were like, no.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: And I was like, you should probably go look back
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: at it. And Herbert is not even on any rosters
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: right now, which is hilarious.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't be.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I try not to give too much attention to looking
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: ahead at schedules because you never know what that team's
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: going to be health-wise by the time that you do
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: face them. But you certainly can look in hindsight at
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: a team's schedule. No question about that. When you face them,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: how you face them, and stuff like that. Yeah, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: did not see 0-5 for them, but you're right, kid.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I think they'll probably be 0-9. I can't see a world,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: barring quarterback injuries, where they win any of the next
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: four games.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe at home against the Texans?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: That's a big maybe. That's a big maybe. That's a
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: big maybe. And yet, I don't think they'll abandon it either.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're a team that's going to tank
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: or sell or anything like that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I think they're pot committed. I'm going to close.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to have a really interesting conversation
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: tomorrow with Gene Steratore for a second week in a row.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Just going through all.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: There are 14 things in the 49ers-Seahawks game alone that
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: we could bring up.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: But when you take college into account and the NFL
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: into account.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: My goodness, are we going to have a lot to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: discuss with Gene tomorrow at 8 o'clock?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I will say this.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Kalen DeBoer was applauded for his anger and also harshly
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: criticized on social media for his display.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Grown man throwing a fit on the sidelines. He had
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: two really big.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Calls that went against him that were wrong, that were
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: just flat out wrong. So you're facing a rival. You're
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: coming down the stretch of He's red-faced. You never saw.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Him lose his cool.
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  Speaker 3: Never.
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  Speaker 1: Ever here. And he is just... He can't take it anymore.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, his own player, who
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: they've had problems with, decides to punch a guy twice.
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  Speaker 5: While they get off the field.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: After the play was over, when they're close to getting
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: off the field. And it was just a build-up of everything.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: He was already furious when that occurred.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: If the game.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Hadn't had those two calls, Kalen DeBoer would have been
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: angry at his player.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: He would have said something to his player, but he
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have done the old, you just cost us the game.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't have gone for that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Even if it's true.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Even if it's true.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: But he probably wouldn't have gone to that level had
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: he not already been at a level that we never
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: see him at in terms of his anger. But how
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: do you come down from that? If I'm angry in
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: a situation and then all of a sudden.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: You know, some delivery guy throws a package that breaks
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: my glass window. Odds are there's a much better chance
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and beat him on the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: sidewalk because I'm already angry than if it would have
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: happened while I'm just having milk and cookies.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Good point.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah. So we'll talk more
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: about it later.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: We also have Rick Neuheisel tomorrow, so a lot to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: talk about with him tomorrow as well. Greg and Jess,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in our next Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.