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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today, I have a very special guest. Beth Kramer is
- 0:02Speaker 1: with me today. I've known Beth for a long long
- 0:04Speaker 1: time that Beth is the executive director for at Ease USA,
- 0:10Speaker 1: and you know, we've had Beth a couple calls in
- 0:12Speaker 1: the last week, one yesterday about veterans and about the
- 0:16Speaker 1: services that are available in Omaha for veterans. Yesterday was
- 0:21Speaker 1: specifically about homeless veterans and unsheltered veterans. But I wanted
- 0:26Speaker 1: you to come on today and as executive director of
- 0:29Speaker 1: ad Ease, to talk about ADES USA And this was founded,
- 0:34Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand and nine, but it's committed
- 0:38Speaker 1: to providing access to confidential trauma treatment for active military
- 0:43Speaker 1: veterans and frontline healthcare workers suffering from PTSD or post
- 0:48Speaker 1: traumatic stress syndrome. And there's a lot of need for
- 0:53Speaker 1: that in the city of Omaha, and I really wanted
- 0:55Speaker 1: you to talk a little bit about it today. So welcome,
- 0:58Speaker 1: thank you.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. Always good to hang
- 1:00Speaker 2: out with Eugene, because we've done.
- 1:02Speaker 3: It quite a bit of a blessing. Yes we have.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I think we first met when it was about two
- 1:06Speaker 1: thousand and six with a campaign when I was running
- 1:09Speaker 1: for the Nebraska Legislature.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Remember that, Yes.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I did, and that was fourteen votes.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I lost by fourteen votes. But you know, I always
- 1:18Speaker 1: tell people when I'm talking about running for political office,
- 1:21Speaker 1: I said, when you run for a political office, you're
- 1:24Speaker 1: one of two things is going to happen. You're gonna
- 1:26Speaker 1: win or you're gonna lose. And there's no second place.
- 1:29Speaker 1: I mean, you don't talk you know years later and go, well,
- 1:32Speaker 1: I came in second place for the mayor's race. You
- 1:34Speaker 1: win or you lose, and that's all there is to it.
- 1:36Speaker 1: But we've known each other for a long time. But
- 1:39Speaker 1: what a great organization this is and you're the one
- 1:42Speaker 1: that really got me involved with it. We could talk
- 1:45Speaker 1: about that, but just tell us about Addies. It's called
- 1:49Speaker 1: Addis USA. Is it a national organization? And how did
- 1:53Speaker 1: it start in Omaha.
- 1:54Speaker 2: It's actually a great story. Scott Anderson, who is a
- 1:59Speaker 2: marketing EXEUS executive turned counselor here in Omaha, had a
- 2:06Speaker 2: client whose son was serving overseas and unfortunately her son
- 2:12Speaker 2: did not make it back. But in his discussions with her,
- 2:17Speaker 2: discovered that she had developed secondary PTSD and did not
- 2:21Speaker 2: have any assistance and Scott is a go getter and said,
- 2:26Speaker 2: we've got to fix this. And so he put together
- 2:29Speaker 2: a group of volunteers and they said, what can we
- 2:33Speaker 2: do to help? And they discovered that if we all,
- 2:36Speaker 2: if they pulled their resources and they they all had
- 2:40Speaker 2: a vast amount of knowledge on nonprofits and fundraising, and
- 2:45Speaker 2: they put together Adies USA to offer mental health counseling
- 2:51Speaker 2: for At the time, it was active military veterans and
- 2:57Speaker 2: their family members, because if someone has post traumatic stress,
- 3:01Speaker 2: it doesn't impact just the veteran, It impacts the entire family.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Absolutely, it does in the area that it serves. And
- 3:09Speaker 1: I'll let you talk a little bit more about the specifics,
- 3:11Speaker 1: but it's not just Omaha, right, I mean it is.
- 3:14Speaker 3: It's wide range.
- 3:15Speaker 2: So we serve the entire state of Nebraska and four
- 3:21Speaker 2: counties in western Iowa, so that it's the Omaha metro area. Obviously,
- 3:25Speaker 2: most of this population of Nebraska's on the eastern part
- 3:29Speaker 2: of the state, but we have fifty three therapists across
- 3:32Speaker 2: the state. All of our therapists have to be able
- 3:35Speaker 2: to offer telehealth and when someone calls in, we try
- 3:39Speaker 2: to match them with a therapist that fits them. If
- 3:45Speaker 2: they speak Spanish, if they are a loved one versus
- 3:49Speaker 2: a veteran. We try to make that so that it's
- 3:52Speaker 2: comfortable and accessible for everybody.
- 3:56Speaker 1: And we said at the beginning, or I said, it
- 3:58Speaker 1: was founded in two thousand, Is that correct?
- 4:01Speaker 3: Correct?
- 4:01Speaker 1: So how has it grown over the years?
- 4:05Speaker 2: Oh? Well, this is I will say since COVID in particular,
- 4:09Speaker 2: is it has just really grown. I think people are
- 4:12Speaker 2: there's been a huge push not only by the VA
- 4:16Speaker 2: but the community in general to have an awareness of
- 4:20Speaker 2: mental health issues. In twenty twenty two, for example, we
- 4:24Speaker 2: had fifty five clients. In twenty twenty five, we had
- 4:29Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy eight clients, and all of those
- 4:33Speaker 2: three seventy eight received five hundred and five points of service.
- 4:38Speaker 2: So we had two hundred and sixty six people doing therapy,
- 4:41Speaker 2: but they might have also been doing one of our
- 4:44Speaker 2: wellness programs. And that's the other thing that we've done
- 4:47Speaker 2: in the last two to two and a half years
- 4:50Speaker 2: is we have expanded how we've reached out to our
- 4:53Speaker 2: military connected families. You know, no one wants to just
- 4:57Speaker 2: necessarily go in and rip the band aid off everyone.
- 5:00Speaker 2: We can talk about their mental health issues. Correct, Sometimes
- 5:03Speaker 2: they need just a step in and a segue into
- 5:06Speaker 2: that and to have some trust in an organization. So
- 5:09Speaker 2: we have started offering peer support and wellness programs so
- 5:13Speaker 2: that military connected families can learn who we are, understand
- 5:18Speaker 2: that we provide quality programs, that we're one hundred percent confidential,
- 5:23Speaker 2: and that they can trust us. So if they maybe
- 5:26Speaker 2: come in and do yoga, they say, oh, well, they
- 5:28Speaker 2: also offer these other services. This is a good organization.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Maybe I'll look into therapy.
- 5:35Speaker 1: And at easy USA. It does not replace services that
- 5:40Speaker 1: are provided by the VA. Right, I think our listeners
- 5:43Speaker 1: might be saying, well, what about the VA and how
- 5:46Speaker 1: do you work with the VA. But it's more that
- 5:49Speaker 1: this fills the gap for the services or that the
- 5:54Speaker 1: VA doesn't provide, or if they just feel hesitant to
- 5:56Speaker 1: go to the VAS. AM I not correct with that.
- 5:59Speaker 1: You are correct.
- 6:00Speaker 2: So we have been privately funded until this last year,
- 6:04Speaker 2: and we actually have a staff Sergeant Parker Gordon Fox
- 6:08Speaker 2: grant from the VA. So we have two revenue streams.
- 6:13Speaker 2: But we do fill that gap for folks who either
- 6:16Speaker 2: don't want to go to the VA for whatever reason.
- 6:19Speaker 2: There's lots of them out there. A lot of times
- 6:22Speaker 2: with the mental health counseling. It may be three months
- 6:26Speaker 2: or more to get into a counselor, and so we
- 6:30Speaker 2: get all of our therapy clients in with a counselor
- 6:33Speaker 2: within ten business days. We are also on a sliding
- 6:36Speaker 2: scale fee, so there is you know, we'll take insurance,
- 6:40Speaker 2: but if someone can't pay for that therapy, we cover it.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Our goal is to remove barriers. We do through the
- 6:49Speaker 2: the staff, Sergeant Fox Grant do suicide prevention activities that
- 6:54Speaker 2: we provide services that for folks who don't currently go
- 6:58Speaker 2: to the VA and help them maybe transition into some
- 7:01Speaker 2: services at the VA they can use. But a lot
- 7:04Speaker 2: of what we offer yoga, for example, we're offering acupuncture
- 7:08Speaker 2: in Lincoln. We're working with Hetera to provide equine therapy.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Those are services that the VA does not offer, and
- 7:16Speaker 2: so we are providing wellness and pure support that you
- 7:20Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily get at the VA.
- 7:22Speaker 1: And you know, I dealt with this personally with mental
- 7:25Speaker 1: illness with my previous husband that I think everybody knows
- 7:31Speaker 1: battled with mental illness and ended up dying of suicide.
- 7:36Speaker 1: People that are dealing with mental illness, it's so difficult
- 7:40Speaker 1: sometimes for them to admit that they have an issue
- 7:45Speaker 1: to seek help. Even when they know they need help,
- 7:48Speaker 1: they don't want to do it. I mean, and I
- 7:50Speaker 1: think that's it's so important, especially for our veterans, that
- 7:54Speaker 1: we're out there putting their lives at risk, most of
- 7:57Speaker 1: them for us, that they have these services that are available,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful that we have this type of organization.
- 8:06Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question as far as
- 8:08Speaker 1: family members, I know at Ease provides services for family
- 8:13Speaker 1: members too, correct, correct, that's a VA. I was thinking
- 8:17Speaker 1: that I don't know if the VA provides the services
- 8:20Speaker 1: or if family members are eligible for VA services.
- 8:23Speaker 2: The VA provides limited services for family members. I don't
- 8:29Speaker 2: I will be honest, I don't know the specific says
- 8:31Speaker 2: to what all they provide, but from at Ease's perspective,
- 8:36Speaker 2: we will. We provide marriage counseling. We have a what
- 8:41Speaker 2: we call it a tribe that is for spouses and
- 8:43Speaker 2: caregivers and it's a it's a peer support group for
- 8:46Speaker 2: spouses and caregivers every week and it's virtual, so we
- 8:50Speaker 2: get folks from across Nebraska. We also have someone from
- 8:54Speaker 2: the East Coast who has joined that that that Tribe
- 8:58Speaker 2: group so we make sure that those family members can participate.
- 9:05Speaker 2: They We've got one couple and they come to yoga together.
- 9:10Speaker 2: It's there one night a week where they get to
- 9:12Speaker 2: spend some time together. Frankly, a lot of times with
- 9:14Speaker 2: these service members, it is the spouse that gets that
- 9:18Speaker 2: service member into counseling. So if you can get the
- 9:21Speaker 2: service member to go to our camp, recharge in June,
- 9:25Speaker 2: or come to yoga, then that gets them into our system,
- 9:30Speaker 2: if you will, and makes them more comfortable with taking
- 9:33Speaker 2: that next step if they need it.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And let's talk just a little bit about PTSD. I
- 9:38Speaker 1: know everybody has heard that's a you know those letters,
- 9:42Speaker 1: and they know what stands for post traumatic stress disorder.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about actually what it is.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I mean, it's a mental health condition, but there are
- 9:52Speaker 1: so many different levels of it and some with some
- 9:56Speaker 1: it is so serious. It really interferes with their ability
- 9:59Speaker 1: to function and for their ability to work, and for
- 10:03Speaker 1: their ability to communicate with people. And that's something I
- 10:07Speaker 1: think that at Ease is aware of and when deciding
- 10:11Speaker 1: what your client's treatment is, there's so many different levels.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about just what PTSD is, and
- 10:19Speaker 1: then also those that are experiencing PTSD, they are at
- 10:25Speaker 1: such a higher risk for drug addiction, alcohol abuse, eating disorders,
- 10:30Speaker 1: higher risk of suicide. All of those things play into PTSD.
- 10:35Speaker 2: So PTSD is a reaction to a traumatic event, and
- 10:41Speaker 2: for some people, as you mentioned, it is a very
- 10:46Speaker 2: It impacts everyone differently. You may have an employee in
- 10:50Speaker 2: your office who is a veteran that is in a
- 10:53Speaker 2: cubicle and if you just had a rear view mirror
- 10:56Speaker 2: in front of his computer so he could see behind him,
- 11:00Speaker 2: no issues. A lot of people have impact of trauma
- 11:06Speaker 2: that can set them off, but they have managed to
- 11:09Speaker 2: control it, to mask it, to be productive members of
- 11:14Speaker 2: our community. We have had clients in the past who
- 11:19Speaker 2: truly will not come out of their home and to
- 11:23Speaker 2: get them out and into the world because they may
- 11:25Speaker 2: be driving down the street and they see a bag
- 11:28Speaker 2: of trash along the road and you and I see
- 11:32Speaker 2: that as a bag of trash. A veteran who has
- 11:36Speaker 2: been in combat may see that as a roadside bomb,
- 11:40Speaker 2: and so you know, it is flagging all of those
- 11:45Speaker 2: potential triggers.
- 11:46Speaker 1: And it just sets off a whole reaction.
- 11:48Speaker 2: That's correct, and the other part of the trauma for
- 11:52Speaker 2: particularly female veterans, is the military sexual trauma. And you know,
- 11:56Speaker 2: you don't have to be in combat to have experienced that,
- 12:00Speaker 2: and it that is another thing. You know, again, we
- 12:04Speaker 2: can trigger some of our current veterans and active even
- 12:07Speaker 2: active duty folks.
- 12:09Speaker 1: And I think with mental illness. Like I said, I
- 12:11Speaker 1: experienced it personally, but many think that there is a
- 12:15Speaker 1: stigma that's associated with it or they're ashamed of it,
- 12:19Speaker 1: and that's why they just don't want to go out
- 12:22Speaker 1: and get help. And I lookt at EASE as an
- 12:27Speaker 1: organization that really removes the barriers for treatment.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Right. Our goal is to make sure that everybody gets
- 12:34Speaker 2: the help that they deserve. Our job is to honor
- 12:38Speaker 2: those military connected families because they do so much and
- 12:41Speaker 2: they've done so much for our country. And so we
- 12:45Speaker 2: remain again one hundred percent confidential. We don't share any
- 12:50Speaker 2: of their information outside of our organization, and that's just
- 12:55Speaker 2: basically for outcome reasons. But our goal is to if
- 12:59Speaker 2: someone needs help and they are struggling from trauma, moral injury,
- 13:04Speaker 2: or any type of suicide, suicide prevention is huge. That's
- 13:09Speaker 2: the cornerstone of our organization. Our goal is to get
- 13:12Speaker 2: them in and get the help that they need and
- 13:13Speaker 2: that they deserve.
- 13:14Speaker 1: So what message would you have as executive director in
- 13:18Speaker 1: being involved with at ease, What message would you have
- 13:22Speaker 1: right now for the veterans that are listening, We're here.
- 13:25Speaker 2: If you need help, we are here for you. We
- 13:29Speaker 2: will do whatever we can and work with you in
- 13:31Speaker 2: whatever level of care that you are comfortable with. If
- 13:38Speaker 2: you are an employer or a coworker, or a spouse
- 13:44Speaker 2: or caregiver and you know a veteran or active duty
- 13:48Speaker 2: service member that truly is struggling and is on edge,
- 13:53Speaker 2: give them our flyer, send them to our website, give
- 13:56Speaker 2: us a call and just ask what we can provide,
- 14:00Speaker 2: and we are happy to give you some information about
- 14:02Speaker 2: our services. We will remove any and all barriers to
- 14:05Speaker 2: getting that individual the care that they need and deserve.
- 14:08Speaker 1: So that's what I was going to ask you. What
- 14:09Speaker 1: you know, if veterans are listening to this and they
- 14:13Speaker 1: need help, how can they get a hold of you?
- 14:15Speaker 2: They can call us at five three, one, two four
- 14:18Speaker 2: seven for zero for zero. Our website has all of
- 14:23Speaker 2: our programming on it and that is at ease USA
- 14:28Speaker 2: dot org. We are on Facebook, We're on Instagram and Twitter,
- 14:33Speaker 2: though I don't do any of that, I am not competent,
- 14:36Speaker 2: but I would suggest follow us maybe just you know,
- 14:42Speaker 2: follow us on one of those social media and see
- 14:45Speaker 2: what we've got going on, and maybe there will be
- 14:47Speaker 2: something that is attractive to you that draws you to
- 14:51Speaker 2: seek help.
- 14:52Speaker 1: And if you're not military and you're listening to this
- 14:55Speaker 1: and you want to help, and you're not involved with
- 14:58Speaker 1: with veterans, but you just really like what they're hearing
- 15:01Speaker 1: and they want to help, what can they do.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Well, We've got a couple events coming up. We have
- 15:05Speaker 2: a golf outing on May eighth, So if you like
- 15:07Speaker 2: to golf and want to support a good cause, we
- 15:10Speaker 2: hope you'll come on May eighth. Last Saturday, we just
- 15:13Speaker 2: did a maaj On fundraiser which was a huge success.
- 15:16Speaker 2: We have a five K coming up and that is
- 15:19Speaker 2: a friend raiser. We're actually going to have yard signs
- 15:22Speaker 2: that you can put the photo and the name of
- 15:26Speaker 2: a loved one who's in the military and honor them,
- 15:29Speaker 2: and they'll be along the route and you can take
- 15:31Speaker 2: those signs home. Our luncheon is coming up November fourth.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Will Summers is our keynote speaker and our Chamber President,
- 15:39Speaker 2: Heath Mellow is our honorary chair. Oh good, and we
- 15:43Speaker 2: have Will Sommers is one of the twelve Green Berets
- 15:49Speaker 2: who went into Afghanistan on horseback and the movie Twelve
- 15:52Speaker 2: Strong May was created based on that story. So he's
- 15:56Speaker 2: our speaker in November.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Oh, that ought to be good. I've been to the
- 15:59Speaker 1: event and the luncheon and it's held down at CHI
- 16:03Speaker 1: at the our convention center, and your speakers have always
- 16:06Speaker 1: been just great. I mean they really they really make
- 16:10Speaker 1: you feel what's going on with them and how how
- 16:14Speaker 1: great a need there is to have something like this.
- 16:17Speaker 1: One last question for you, what is Is there any
- 16:21Speaker 1: involvement with at ease, with the Douglas and Sarpy County
- 16:24Speaker 1: jails and Veterans Court.
- 16:26Speaker 3: There is.
- 16:28Speaker 2: We have a lot of folks and back to earlier comments,
- 16:31Speaker 2: sometimes that trauma gets some of our military folks into
- 16:37Speaker 2: legal trouble and they may end up in jail, they
- 16:40Speaker 2: may have some kind of legal issues. Sarpy and Douglas
- 16:46Speaker 2: County both have a Veterans Treatment Court, and that gives
- 16:50Speaker 2: veterans the opportunity they apply to be part of that program,
- 16:54Speaker 2: and it gives them an opportunity to go through that
- 16:56Speaker 2: program and after I think it's eight I don't want
- 16:59Speaker 2: to see the timeframe on it. But at the end
- 17:03Speaker 2: the judge will either reduce or dismiss all of the charges.
- 17:08Speaker 2: We work very closely with Starpy County Veterans' Court. We
- 17:11Speaker 2: mentor we offer peer support services. We have a peer
- 17:14Speaker 2: support specialist who goes into both Douglas and Starpy County jails.
- 17:18Speaker 2: So when those incarcerated veterans get out of jail, they
- 17:21Speaker 2: have a resource. We can help connect them. We can
- 17:24Speaker 2: get them resources that they need to get them into
- 17:29Speaker 2: a place where they can get a job again be
- 17:32Speaker 2: productive members of society because their incident with trauma should
- 17:37Speaker 2: not completely end the rest of their life.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think you said this before, but really
- 17:44Speaker 1: a main focus is suicide prevention and it is so
- 17:47Speaker 1: common with those that were in the military and those
- 17:50Speaker 1: suffering from PTSD. So once again, if they want to
- 17:55Speaker 1: find out more about Eddie's USA your website.
- 17:59Speaker 2: It is at ease USA dot org.
- 18:03Speaker 1: And anybody that has any other questions feel free to
- 18:06Speaker 1: call in. Beth, thank you so much for being here today.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. You know, I didn't want to
- 18:12Speaker 1: mention this, but you asked me a while ago to
- 18:14Speaker 1: serve on this board. And when I no longer was
- 18:18Speaker 1: going to serve as mayor for the next four years,
- 18:20Speaker 1: I told people, I'm not out there looking for something
- 18:22Speaker 1: to do. I'm not out there looking for a board
- 18:24Speaker 1: to sit on. You know, I'm gonna enjoy life the
- 18:27Speaker 1: way it is. And yet when you asked me about
- 18:30Speaker 1: this one, I jumped at it because I felt like
- 18:32Speaker 1: this is so important and I'm not sure I've been
- 18:36Speaker 1: helping you that much, but I mean, really, but I
- 18:38Speaker 1: mean your Beth just kind of takes things by the
- 18:42Speaker 1: bowl by the horn and gets things done. But it's
- 18:44Speaker 1: so important, and I'm glad we have an organization like this.
- 18:47Speaker 1: And once again, at eas USA is not an international
- 18:51Speaker 1: national organization.
- 18:52Speaker 3: We are local.
- 18:53Speaker 1: We are very very local, and so all of the
- 18:56Speaker 1: fundraising goes basically to this area includes all in Nebraska
- 19:00Speaker 1: and western Iowa where the largest concentration of our clients
- 19:04Speaker 1: are living in the Omaha metropolitan area. Correct, and so
- 19:08Speaker 1: what a great organization. Thanks so much for being here today.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Good to see you always, nice to see you. Good,
- 19:12Speaker 1: thank you, thank you.
- 19:14Speaker 4: The kfab comment line. Your host the show, Jean Stouth.
- 19:18Speaker 4: My name is Peyton Hilock. Good morning, Gen, Good morning.
- 19:22Speaker 4: I just have to tell you something. This is so funny.
- 19:24Speaker 4: One of the things that I get to do, and
- 19:27Speaker 4: I mean it is it's so fun for me to
- 19:29Speaker 4: do because I'm not mayor, is take care of my
- 19:32Speaker 4: little kindergarten grandson every Wednesday afternoon. And I really mean
- 19:36Speaker 4: this because when I was mayor, I think there were
- 19:39Speaker 4: so many things my grandsons did that I was not
- 19:41Speaker 4: able to go to. I have two grandsons that are
- 19:44Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, one is eight and one is five, and
- 19:48Speaker 4: then I have two here in Omaha.
- 19:49Speaker 1: One is eight and one is six. And I want
- 19:52Speaker 1: to talk about the six year old today. He's the
- 19:54Speaker 1: one I take care of. He goes to Millard he's
- 19:56Speaker 1: in kindergarten and they get out every wee Wednesday at
- 20:00Speaker 1: two thirty, so they get out early. And my daughter
- 20:03Speaker 1: and son in law, they work at Union Pacific. They
- 20:06Speaker 1: can't get home in time for a two thirty dismissal,
- 20:09Speaker 1: so I really I get to take care of him.
- 20:12Speaker 1: On Tuesday yesterday, the kid wore me out because the
- 20:15Speaker 1: weather was so nice. He wanted to play ball out
- 20:17Speaker 1: in the backyard for two hours, and he finally said, Grandma,
- 20:22Speaker 1: you're really bad at this. Let's go in and watch
- 20:24Speaker 1: a movie. So we did after a while. But my
- 20:27Speaker 1: daughter is good for her. She's trying to teach both
- 20:30Speaker 1: of my grandsons how to be kind, and she's always
- 20:32Speaker 1: telling them, now, that's not a kind word. You need
- 20:35Speaker 1: to treat people kind. They will treat you kind and return.
- 20:39Speaker 1: So he knows Max. Max is his name. I call
- 20:41Speaker 1: him Maximus. Max's is his name, and he's so smart.
- 20:45Speaker 1: He has such a good vocabulary. But on Wednesdays he
- 20:48Speaker 1: knows that Grandma's coming. So he said to my daughter,
- 20:52Speaker 1: yesterday morning, she sent me a text and she said,
- 20:55Speaker 1: you got to hear what Max said this morning, and
- 20:57Speaker 1: she said, Max said, I'm going to tell Emma today
- 21:01Speaker 1: that she has.
- 21:01Speaker 3: A really big head.
- 21:04Speaker 1: And my daughter says, I said, Max, that isn't very
- 21:08Speaker 1: nice of you. You need to only be kind to grandma,
- 21:11Speaker 1: and she said. Max then looked very very confused, and
- 21:13Speaker 1: he said, I am being kind. It's a compliment. I
- 21:17Speaker 1: wanted to know that she I wanted her to know
- 21:19Speaker 1: that she had a big head. It's a big compliment
- 21:22Speaker 1: because it holds her big brain. And my daughter said
- 21:25Speaker 1: her response to him was, maybe you should just stick
- 21:27Speaker 1: with telling her she's smart.
- 21:29Speaker 3: But I mean, what these kids say is so funny.
- 21:33Speaker 1: But he did tell me yesterday that I had a
- 21:35Speaker 1: big head, so I took that as a conflict.
- 21:37Speaker 3: At least, you know, it means you have a big brain.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Yeah that's what he thinks. He goes, oh, no, this
- 21:42Speaker 1: means she has a big brain, which I thought was
- 21:44Speaker 1: so funny some of the things he said to me.
- 21:47Speaker 1: He was in a taekwondo when he was in a
- 21:49Speaker 1: contest this past weekend, and I asked him about, you know,
- 21:53Speaker 1: his belts that he has, and he told me he says, well,
- 21:55Speaker 1: I'm a black belt, and then he said, well, technically
- 21:59Speaker 1: I'm really a white belt because it's a black belt
- 22:01Speaker 1: in junior. But his vocabulary just amazes me. But I
- 22:05Speaker 1: thought that was pretty funny that he said I had
- 22:07Speaker 1: a big head. But that means I had a big brain,
- 22:09Speaker 1: So that's all good.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Yeah, kids are so funny. And I have so many
- 22:13Speaker 4: cousins that are so little. They will say the most
- 22:17Speaker 4: ridiculous thing to you.
- 22:18Speaker 1: I know it.
- 22:19Speaker 3: They have no filter and they mean it too. I
- 22:22Speaker 3: know it.
- 22:23Speaker 1: We were playing a video game a couple of weeks ago.
- 22:25Speaker 1: I'm bad at those. It's one of those interactive ones
- 22:28Speaker 1: that a camera's on you, and if you sway to
- 22:30Speaker 1: the right, the character on the screen sways to the right,
- 22:34Speaker 1: sways to the left, and then he jumps up and
- 22:37Speaker 1: down if you jump up and down. So he's jumping
- 22:39Speaker 1: up and down. I go, now, not jumping up and down.
- 22:41Speaker 1: And he looked at me and he goes, you're so
- 22:43Speaker 1: bad at this. And then and then he said he
- 22:46Speaker 1: put on something real easy, like candy Land, and he goes, Grandma,
- 22:49Speaker 1: now this is your time to shine. And I thought
- 22:52Speaker 1: it was so funny coming from.
- 22:53Speaker 3: A six year old.
- 22:54Speaker 4: I know.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too good. He's hilarious.
- 22:56Speaker 1: But that's Maximus. I have more Maximus stories.
- 22:59Speaker 3: We need to hear Maximus stories as we go on.
- 23:01Speaker 1: He's pretty good.
- 23:03Speaker 4: Let's get into this restaurant dress code here. This was
- 23:06Speaker 4: teased a little bit yesterday and Chris Baker and I
- 23:10Speaker 4: in the afternoon talked about it a little bit as well.
- 23:13Speaker 3: And I'll just give you the headline here.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Ruth Chris Steakhouse had something to say about dress code
- 23:18Speaker 4: and real quick they just reminded restaurant goers on its
- 23:21Speaker 4: website that hats gymware, pool attire, tank tops, and revealing
- 23:27Speaker 4: clothing or exposed undergarments are all banned from its dining room. Yes,
- 23:32Speaker 4: what do we think about that?
- 23:33Speaker 1: And I want to know what our listeners think about
- 23:35Speaker 1: that too, because I mean, it is burning up the
- 23:39Speaker 1: internet yesterday and today what Ruth Chris did with the
- 23:43Speaker 1: dress code. And you know that you just read what
- 23:46Speaker 1: they put on their web page and immediately other restaurants responded. Then,
- 23:53Speaker 1: So for example, Chili's, they put on their website only
- 23:56Speaker 1: dress code, not there's no dress code.
- 24:00Speaker 3: You just have to be dressed.
- 24:02Speaker 1: I know the cheesecake factory put out come as you
- 24:05Speaker 1: are just come hungry. And I know that there was
- 24:08Speaker 1: something else from Morton's Steakhouse that I read that said
- 24:13Speaker 1: they expect you to dress smart casual. Now what the
- 24:16Speaker 1: heck is that? Because Peyton, I think your smart casual
- 24:19Speaker 1: and my smart casual might be a little bit different.
- 24:22Speaker 1: I understand business casual, but smart casual, I don't know.
- 24:27Speaker 1: You know, if anybody watched The Sopranos, which I didn't
- 24:30Speaker 1: watch until recently, all eight seasons, but it reminds me
- 24:34Speaker 1: of one funny Soprano episode when Tony Soprano walked up
- 24:39Speaker 1: to a kid in the restaurant and he said, take
- 24:41Speaker 1: your hat off. We don't sell hot dogs in here.
- 24:44Speaker 1: It kind of reminded me of that. But you know,
- 24:47Speaker 1: I want to know what people think about that. Now.
- 24:50Speaker 1: I think we've got to be careful with that. But
- 24:53Speaker 1: when the airlines came out with come on, people dress
- 24:57Speaker 1: a little bit better to fly on an airplane. You know,
- 25:00Speaker 1: you need to be comfortable. You don't need to dress up.
- 25:03Speaker 1: It used to be I'm so old Peyton. When I
- 25:06Speaker 1: was younger, women dressed up to go on an airplane.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they also smoked on airplanes.
- 25:11Speaker 1: And they smoked on an airplane, and they were like
- 25:13Speaker 1: high heels, shoes and everything on an airplane. But I mean,
- 25:17Speaker 1: I have sat next to somebody that brought in a
- 25:19Speaker 1: pillow a blanket and had fuzzy house slippers on too,
- 25:22Speaker 1: and her blanket took my seat which was next to them.
- 25:26Speaker 1: So I think that there is a there's a reason
- 25:29Speaker 1: why restaurants are doing this. If you're going to a
- 25:31Speaker 1: find restaurant, and you know, I mean Ruth christ is good.
- 25:34Speaker 1: If you've never had their stakes. They're great, Morton's is good.
- 25:37Speaker 1: A lot of these restaurants are good. But what do
- 25:40Speaker 1: people think when they visit those restaurants? Do they expect
- 25:43Speaker 1: people to at least not have their pajamas on. I
- 25:46Speaker 1: think there's a point to it, But let me tell
- 25:48Speaker 1: you a little experience I had that I think you've
- 25:51Speaker 1: got to be careful with this too. So my husband, Kevin,
- 25:54Speaker 1: and I were down in Miami and we went to
- 25:56Speaker 1: a pretty nice restaurant down there in Miami Beach and
- 26:00Speaker 1: I had a dress on and he had slacks and
- 26:03Speaker 1: a golf shirt on. But I had what would I
- 26:07Speaker 1: guess be considered flip flops on. But they weren't like
- 26:10Speaker 1: rubber that you'd wear to the beach. They were like
- 26:12Speaker 1: pink Patent leather. Yeah, and my husband had a pair
- 26:15Speaker 1: of Tommy Bahama leather, which they would consider flip flops.
- 26:19Speaker 3: We look pretty nice.
- 26:20Speaker 1: We went in this restaurant, we had reservations, we had
- 26:23Speaker 1: him for months, and they looked at our feet and
- 26:26Speaker 1: they said, I'm sorry, you can't come in here because
- 26:29Speaker 1: we have a sign on the door that says no
- 26:31Speaker 1: flip flops. And I'm thinking, what and they said you
- 26:34Speaker 1: could go sit out on the patio on the sidewalk.
- 26:38Speaker 1: We look pretty good, but what they considered we had
- 26:41Speaker 1: on our feet were flip flops. And there was a
- 26:43Speaker 1: guy standing right next to me that was checking in
- 26:46Speaker 1: that had a Grateful Dead T shirt and torn up
- 26:48Speaker 1: blue jeans, and they let.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Him in but he didn't have flip flops.
- 26:51Speaker 1: But he didn't have flip flops on. So Kevin and
- 26:53Speaker 1: I were banished out to the you know, to the
- 26:56Speaker 1: sidewalk at the outdoor because we had but they considered
- 27:00Speaker 1: flip flops on. So I think you've got to be
- 27:02Speaker 1: careful with what your restrictions are.
- 27:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for a lot of places, the no shirt,
- 27:08Speaker 4: no shoes, no service is good enough. Now I understand
- 27:13Speaker 4: high end steakhouses having a dress code, but how much
- 27:17Speaker 4: of this is kind of common sense?
- 27:18Speaker 1: It seems that to me. But you know, you'd get
- 27:20Speaker 1: a place that is really attracts a lot of visitors,
- 27:23Speaker 1: like Miami Beach. You do take the chance if you
- 27:26Speaker 1: don't have some restrictions of people coming in with a
- 27:28Speaker 1: swimsuit on and a towel wrapped around them, right and
- 27:32Speaker 1: you know, sand all over them and so I understand
- 27:35Speaker 1: that when you are in a more of a resort
- 27:37Speaker 1: type place, especially if you are in a city that
- 27:41Speaker 1: attracts a lot of spring breakers to I used to
- 27:44Speaker 1: live in Galveston, Texas. In fact, I moved to Omaha
- 27:47Speaker 1: from Galveston. We were down there for nine years. My
- 27:49Speaker 1: kids were born down there. But Galveston, as everyone probably knows,
- 27:53Speaker 1: is an island in the Gulf, and there was a
- 27:55Speaker 1: huge amount of spring breakers that came down there. And
- 27:58Speaker 1: I'm telling you, during spring, I didn't even want to
- 28:00Speaker 1: go to the grocery store because a lot of strangers
- 28:03Speaker 1: walking around in their swimsuits and they're and no shoes
- 28:07Speaker 1: or you know, just a beach towel around them. And
- 28:09Speaker 1: so you kind of expect that in an area like that.
- 28:12Speaker 1: And I guess they want to maintain a certain type
- 28:15Speaker 1: of ambiance in their restaurants. But boy, I'm telling you,
- 28:19Speaker 1: are projecting image. Maybe that's a better way to put
- 28:22Speaker 1: it in their restaurant, like a place like Morton's or
- 28:24Speaker 1: a place like Ruth Chris. But I'd really like to
- 28:27Speaker 1: know what people think about it, too, because boy, is
- 28:30Speaker 1: it tearing up the internet today.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:32Speaker 4: Christopher sent us an email and he said, I'm one
- 28:34Speaker 4: hundred percent on board with dress codes for nice restaurants.
- 28:37Speaker 4: Big difference between going to v Mertz or boiler room
- 28:40Speaker 4: and going to Chili's. M there's something nice about taking
- 28:43Speaker 4: my wife to a nice restaurant. I don't want to
- 28:45Speaker 4: see dirty jeans and ball caps.
- 28:47Speaker 1: I agree with that. I one hundred percent agree with that.
- 28:49Speaker 1: Or going back to with the airlines, I really don't
- 28:53Speaker 1: want to sit next to somebody that has a huge
- 28:55Speaker 1: blanket and a few pillows and they're GM's on. I mean,
- 28:59Speaker 1: it's like, come on, you wantn't to be comfortable in
- 29:02Speaker 1: an airplane, but do you really need to.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Dress like that? Yeah.
- 29:06Speaker 4: Sean Duffy, he's the Secretary of Transportation. During the first
- 29:09Speaker 4: government shutdown that was like forty two days, he was
- 29:13Speaker 4: telling people, Hey, let's just be better people. Let's dress
- 29:17Speaker 4: up to the airport. Let's make it a better environment.
- 29:19Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever seen somebody talk that
- 29:21Speaker 4: casually about something. It was kind of interesting to see.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's his. It was his opinion, but I
- 29:26Speaker 1: think a lot of people share that opinion. And you
- 29:29Speaker 1: mentioned earlier when people used to smoke on the airplanes.
- 29:32Speaker 1: I remember those days, and they used to smoke in
- 29:34Speaker 1: restaurants and you I was never a smoker, and you know,
- 29:38Speaker 1: to sit next to somebody in a fine restaurant with
- 29:41Speaker 1: a table right next to somebody that was smoking can
- 29:44Speaker 1: be quite irritating when you don't smoke yourself. So glad
- 29:47Speaker 1: that they stopped that.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that. So we want to hear what
- 29:50Speaker 3: you guys have to say about this.
- 29:51Speaker 4: Give us a call for zero two five five eight
- 29:53Speaker 4: eleven ten, or you can email us at comment at
- 29:55Speaker 4: kfab dot com.
- 29:57Speaker 3: In the meantime, I'm gonna.
- 29:58Speaker 4: Take a little bit of a exit here, but we're
- 30:01Speaker 4: gonna stay on the same lane. This is gonna be
- 30:04Speaker 4: about the restaurant tax. Okay, and someone here sent us
- 30:07Speaker 4: an article coming from the Flatwater Free Press, and basically
- 30:11Speaker 4: what's highlighted was Omaha's two point five percent restaurant tax,
- 30:16Speaker 4: enacted in twenty ten to address recession induced budget shortfall.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Was originally intended to be temporary, but has become a
- 30:25Speaker 4: permanent major revenue for the city. We talked a little
- 30:29Speaker 4: bit about Flatwater Free Press off the air. I have
- 30:32Speaker 4: not read anything from them in the past, but that's
- 30:34Speaker 4: just the quotation I'm giving you.
- 30:36Speaker 3: I'll let you run with that.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Sure, you know, Flatwater has a lot of reporters that
- 30:40Speaker 1: used to be with the World Herald. They're editors with
- 30:42Speaker 1: the World Herald.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I read it.
- 30:45Speaker 1: They tend to do stories. They're not reporting the news,
- 30:48Speaker 1: but they tend to do stories, and they tend to
- 30:49Speaker 1: do a lot of research into the story, whether it's
- 30:52Speaker 1: about something with the city development budget, whatever. And I
- 30:56Speaker 1: think they're good, They're credible. I will say this, this
- 30:59Speaker 1: is that statement to say that the restaurant tax was
- 31:03Speaker 1: meant to be temporary is absolutely one hundred percent false.
- 31:08Speaker 1: It was not, and you could go on the City
- 31:11Speaker 1: of Omaha website. You could look at every ordinance and
- 31:14Speaker 1: read the ordinance. True. It was passed in twenty ten.
- 31:18Speaker 1: I was on the city Council at the time. It
- 31:21Speaker 1: actually was amended several times. I think we started out
- 31:24Speaker 1: with about four and a half percent and it went
- 31:27Speaker 1: down to two and a half percent because at that
- 31:30Speaker 1: time there was a budget shortfall and the City of
- 31:34Speaker 1: Omaha needed to put in about thirteen million dollars more
- 31:38Speaker 1: into the fire and police pension. Now it did that.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Mayor Suttle and his finance team. They're the ones that
- 31:47Speaker 1: pushed through the restaurant tax. As a city council member,
- 31:50Speaker 1: I did not vote for it because I thought it
- 31:51Speaker 1: would hurt the restaurant industry. But at two and a
- 31:54Speaker 1: half percent restaurant tax is on prepared food and beverage.
- 32:00Speaker 1: It was estimated at that time it was only going
- 32:02Speaker 1: to bring in about fourteen million dollars a year. That
- 32:05Speaker 1: was the estimate for two and a half percent. Go
- 32:08Speaker 1: online and read that ordinance if anybody wants to do that.
- 32:12Speaker 1: It never says anything about it being temporary, and it
- 32:15Speaker 1: never said anything about all of this money will go
- 32:18Speaker 1: into the fire and police pension. All it is an
- 32:21Speaker 1: occupation tax. An occupation tax, all of the revenue from
- 32:25Speaker 1: it goes into the general fund. What goes into the
- 32:29Speaker 1: general fund, then is what the mayor uses to prepare
- 32:32Speaker 1: the budget, and it funds all the city departments. So
- 32:36Speaker 1: it was again supposed to bring in about thirteen fourteen
- 32:39Speaker 1: million the very first year, it brought in almost twice
- 32:43Speaker 1: that much. And so my concerns with it harming the
- 32:47Speaker 1: restaurant business, the reason I didn't vote for it, were incorrect.
- 32:51Speaker 1: But it again it did not ever say all of
- 32:53Speaker 1: it was supposed to go in the Fire and Police pension.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Either it goes into the general fund, like all occupation
- 32:58Speaker 1: taxes do. There was a budget shortfall. It made twice
- 33:02Speaker 1: as much as they anticipated it would. They had enough
- 33:06Speaker 1: additional revenue to put in the fire and police pension,
- 33:09Speaker 1: but they had additional revenue on top of that that
- 33:12Speaker 1: just went into the general fund and helped fund all
- 33:16Speaker 1: the other departments. Now, look at what the revenue is
- 33:20Speaker 1: for the restaurant tax.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Now it has.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Gone up from that beginning of an estimated fourteen million
- 33:26Speaker 1: dollars a year, and I'm estimating that amount of money
- 33:29Speaker 1: in to or twenty ten, and now it is bringing
- 33:33Speaker 1: in about forty eight million dollars a year. It is
- 33:37Speaker 1: the third largest source of revenue that the City of
- 33:41Speaker 1: Omaha funds a general fund. The City of Omaha, their
- 33:44Speaker 1: primary source of revenue is sales tax, their next is
- 33:48Speaker 1: property tax, and the next is the restaurant tax. So
- 33:52Speaker 1: to say, you know, you should get rid of the
- 33:55Speaker 1: restaurant tax now, I said many times, and I hope
- 33:58Speaker 1: Mary Ewing feels the same way. And it would be
- 34:01Speaker 1: financially irresponsible to take that almost fifty million dollars out
- 34:06Speaker 1: of the general fund now because it would cut every
- 34:10Speaker 1: city department if we would have to take that, or
- 34:13Speaker 1: we would get rid of the restaurant tax. It's obviously
- 34:15Speaker 1: not hurting the restaurant tax in industry, and who would
- 34:18Speaker 1: want to do that. And with fire and police being
- 34:21Speaker 1: two thirds of the general fund budget, to take fifty
- 34:24Speaker 1: million dollars out, fire and police would get hit the worst.
- 34:27Speaker 1: And so no, it is not meant to be temporary,
- 34:30Speaker 1: but it is a large source of revenue, and like
- 34:33Speaker 1: I said, it will as far as I was concerned,
- 34:36Speaker 1: it would be financially irresponsible to try to get rid
- 34:39Speaker 1: of it, and I wanted to keep it on. The
- 34:40Speaker 1: number one tax that people complain about, not only in
- 34:43Speaker 1: Omaha but across the state of Nebraska is a property tax,
- 34:47Speaker 1: because you still have to think of the restaurant tax.
- 34:50Speaker 1: If you don't want to pay it, and you're totally
- 34:52Speaker 1: against it, you don't go out to you don't go
- 34:54Speaker 1: to a restaurant property taxes. If you own property, you must.
- 35:00Speaker 4: The outam here on news radio eleven ten kfab Yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 4: I was.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Calling in about the addressing up when you go out
- 35:07Speaker 5: to a restaurant. I totally agree with it. I also
- 35:11Speaker 5: just think in general, people need to dress a little
- 35:13Speaker 5: bit better in public. And then one other thing I
- 35:16Speaker 5: wanted to ask Gene, is you know you're talking about
- 35:19Speaker 5: smoking a restaurant. I remember when that happened. I never
- 35:23Speaker 5: understood how the how local governments were able to tell
- 35:27Speaker 5: private businesses who could smoke in their business.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Yeah, that was quite controversial at the time I recalled that,
- 35:34Speaker 1: but I think after a period of time, I think
- 35:38Speaker 1: people were appreciative that a step was taken. You know,
- 35:43Speaker 1: I brought this up before, but you know, I'm not
- 35:47Speaker 1: really a young person anymore. Everybody knows what my age is.
- 35:50Speaker 3: I won't go into that.
- 35:51Speaker 1: But when I first was a young nurse, they were
- 35:54Speaker 1: smoking in the hospitals. Nurses and doctors and patients were
- 35:58Speaker 1: allowed to smoke in the hospital. And I know some
- 36:01Speaker 1: people look at it as as you know, a right,
- 36:05Speaker 1: they're not doing anything illegal. But at the same time,
- 36:08Speaker 1: good lord, I mean, should you be smoking in a hospital?
- 36:12Speaker 1: And then they set up these puff huts outside the
- 36:15Speaker 1: hospital is what they called it, and all the doctors
- 36:18Speaker 1: and nurses would go out there and they'd be smoking away,
- 36:20Speaker 1: you know, ten feet from the hospital door. So there
- 36:23Speaker 1: are some moves that have been taken that I think
- 36:26Speaker 1: after time goes by, people appreciate. But it's the same
- 36:30Speaker 1: thing with like helmets with a motorcycle. I mean, people
- 36:33Speaker 1: some people look at it as as a personal freedom thing.
- 36:36Speaker 1: But when your personal freedom is violating somebody else's personal freedom,
- 36:41Speaker 1: that's when I think it's okay.
- 36:43Speaker 3: To step in. Yeah, that's very that's very true. We're
- 36:46Speaker 3: gonna have Jeff here.
- 36:47Speaker 4: Jeff, you're on news radio eleven t KFAB with jeanst Author.
- 36:52Speaker 6: Yes, you mentioned the pensions on shortfall when you were
- 36:56Speaker 6: mayor and console person. Did they ever consider turning the
- 36:59Speaker 6: pitch and funds over to the state to manage?
- 37:03Speaker 1: You know, I don't. It would have to be an
- 37:05Speaker 1: agreement with our collective bargaining units. And you know, I
- 37:09Speaker 1: will say the majority, not everybody, but the majority of
- 37:14Speaker 1: employees for the City of Omaha are in a union,
- 37:17Speaker 1: in a collective bargaining unit. And that makes a big
- 37:22Speaker 1: difference because it makes a difference when the mayor is
- 37:25Speaker 1: doing and preparing the budget because these employees are under
- 37:29Speaker 1: contract and their raises are under contract. But the pension
- 37:33Speaker 1: it does say in the city Charter that the pension
- 37:37Speaker 1: will be funded and that the employee in the employer
- 37:44Speaker 1: will put substantially equal amounts into the pension. And so
- 37:49Speaker 1: that means the employee, the union members, and the city
- 37:54Speaker 1: will put in basically an equal amount. When I became mayor,
- 38:00Speaker 1: the fire and police pension was thirty eight percent funded,
- 38:05Speaker 1: and I brought this up previously, but this could really
- 38:09Speaker 1: affect the city's bond rating and the bond Raiders, which
- 38:13Speaker 1: the city goes to multiple times during the year, but
- 38:15Speaker 1: actually presents the city once a year. It's usually in
- 38:17Speaker 1: the fall. I did the presentation when I was mayor
- 38:21Speaker 1: to the bond Raiders. We go up to Chicago one
- 38:23Speaker 1: year or they would come down another year. To the
- 38:26Speaker 1: bond Raiders being fully funded. Is at least eighty percent
- 38:30Speaker 1: or more now with you know, thirty eight percent. When
- 38:34Speaker 1: I left, the fire and Police pension was about fifty
- 38:37Speaker 1: eight percent funded. So we made a lot of progress.
- 38:41Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's nowhere where the bond
- 38:43Speaker 1: Raiders won us yet and that's the main reason why
- 38:46Speaker 1: we don't get a triple A bond rating.
- 38:49Speaker 3: Yes we have.
- 38:49Speaker 1: We thought, I mean we thought, is this a possibility?
- 38:54Speaker 1: But I think the unions would would never accept that,
- 38:57Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's got to be some thing
- 39:00Speaker 1: that is further discussed, because I think another thing I
- 39:04Speaker 1: would like to hear some feedback on. Are those public
- 39:08Speaker 1: employee unions something that people feel are still important to have.
- 39:13Speaker 1: It used to be with this with the public employees
- 39:16Speaker 1: that they got low salary but good benefits, and now
- 39:18Speaker 1: they get pretty good salary and good benefits too. So
- 39:21Speaker 1: that's a subject for another day.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:23Speaker 4: Absolutely, And if you guys have things that you feel
- 39:26Speaker 4: about that, go ahead be sure to let us know.
- 39:28Speaker 4: You can reach out comment at kfab dot com or
- 39:31Speaker 4: tomorrow we'll be live yet again ten to eleven in
- 39:34Speaker 4: the morning.
- 39:35Speaker 3: You can call us for zero two five five eight
- 39:37Speaker 3: eleven ten
- 39:37Speaker 1: And thanks for listening and thanks for being with us
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