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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hell No, Welcome to the Naughty but nic Sha'm your
- 0:15Speaker 1: host room shooter, and it's Friday, my favorite day of
- 0:18Speaker 1: the week, one of my favorite days of the weeks.
- 0:20Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't really have a bad day.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I love a Monday, I love a Friday. I love
- 0:24Speaker 1: a Thursday. I love a Tuesday, Wednesday. Have I missed out?
- 0:28Speaker 1: I love all of it. I have a really nice,
- 0:30Speaker 1: nice week. But there is something very delicious about ending
- 0:34Speaker 1: the week, maybe accomplishing something, ticking something off that list
- 0:38Speaker 1: of things you want to get done, and moving into
- 0:41Speaker 1: the weekend. Plus I'm really lucky my niece, my sister
- 0:44Speaker 1: Christine's daughter, Paris, is in New York this weekend, so
- 0:47Speaker 1: I get to hang out with my niece for two days.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that. But I'm also so excited
- 0:52Speaker 1: because every Friday, our dear friend Cory Andrew joins us. Hey,
- 0:57Speaker 1: Corey Oliver, I am here.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that lovely intro. I mean,
- 1:01Speaker 2: I feel like I'm family. You type me right in
- 1:04Speaker 2: with your niece, you.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Right there with them. We've been doing this a while now,
- 1:08Speaker 1: from that day you walked into Bottinos and stole my heart.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Oh I like to write away, you made me laugh,
- 1:15Speaker 1: you made me smile. You're a decent, decent man. My friend. O, kay,
- 1:17Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?
- 1:20Speaker 1: It is? So there's a new book out, a new
- 1:23Speaker 1: book out that claims Queen Camilla didn't like Kate Middleton
- 1:28Speaker 1: in the beginning and still has a very tense relationship
- 1:32Speaker 1: with Prince William. Christopher Anderson, I know this guy. He
- 1:35Speaker 1: is a fabulous reporter author. He has the best royal sources.
- 1:41Speaker 1: So he has a book out called The King The
- 1:43Speaker 1: Life of King Charles the Third, and he shared some
- 1:48Speaker 1: intriguing insights into the early dynamics within the British royal
- 1:53Speaker 1: family when Kate Middleton arrived. So Christopher is saying that Camilla,
- 2:00Speaker 1: who married Charles in two thousand and five, wasn't keen
- 2:04Speaker 1: on William's relationship with Kate during the early days when
- 2:08Speaker 1: they met at Saint Andrew's University in Scotland. I went
- 2:11Speaker 1: to the University of Edinburgh, but just down the street
- 2:14Speaker 1: was Saint Andrew's. They went then. I think it was
- 2:16Speaker 1: better for them because it's like a little small village.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Edinburgh is a city, so there's photographers. It's a big town,
- 2:22Speaker 1: so if you want to be private, Saint Andrews is
- 2:24Speaker 1: a very good place to go. I think Chris Cuomo's
- 2:26Speaker 1: son is now at Saint Andrew's too, so lots of
- 2:28Speaker 1: celebrities kids go there. It's a fabulous university, beautiful, beautiful campus.
- 2:33Speaker 1: So they went there together. But when they first met,
- 2:36Speaker 1: Camilla was unsure because she's quote a believer in aristocracy,
- 2:42Speaker 1: and she has a little bit of a snobbish streak.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So let me explain more here. Kate Middleton is a commoner,
- 2:50Speaker 1: and I don't say that with any any malice. I'm
- 2:53Speaker 1: a commoner. I love being a commoner. I don't have
- 2:55Speaker 1: a title. I was not born a lord or a
- 2:58Speaker 1: Leadyyals are not commoners. They were born princes, princesses. They
- 3:04Speaker 1: have titles, and so marrying somebody who is not part
- 3:09Speaker 1: of the aristocracy is something the royals just didn't do.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Camilla is from a very fancy family. She's part of
- 3:17Speaker 1: the aristocracy. Princess Diana was Lady Diana before she met Charles.
- 3:22Speaker 1: She was not a commoner. She was a lady and
- 3:24Speaker 1: she lived in a mansion. Kate lived in a really
- 3:28Speaker 1: nice you know, detached house, but they had like a
- 3:31Speaker 1: normal sort of feel about in a suburban neighborhood. Like
- 3:35Speaker 1: she was fancier than my family, but she didn't live
- 3:38Speaker 1: in a castle. She was a Princess Diana. So initially
- 3:42Speaker 1: Camilla was not that happy about this. Now people who
- 3:45Speaker 1: are defending her are saying that she just wanted to
- 3:48Speaker 1: make sure it all fit together. And she'd seen the
- 3:51Speaker 1: problems in the in the royal family with past past
- 3:54Speaker 1: people coming in and they didn't quite fit. And it's
- 3:57Speaker 1: very difficult to be part of this institution. Is hard
- 4:01Speaker 1: to join a family, whether you're a royal or not.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And so that's why she was concerned. And she didn't
- 4:06Speaker 1: really know if Kate had had the stock to do
- 4:11Speaker 1: this job.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, listen, I mean you see my face,
- 4:15Speaker 2: Rob honey. First of all, miss Camilla girl, you are
- 4:19Speaker 2: literally the side piece who was having an affair with
- 4:25Speaker 2: a married man while he was trying to, you know,
- 4:28Speaker 2: put up the facade of being his happy husband and
- 4:31Speaker 2: have a baby with his wife while you were buzzing around.
- 4:34Speaker 2: It's hardly hardly the voice of any sort of reasoning
- 4:37Speaker 2: about who someone should be allowing into the royal family.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Now I don't have you know, any ill will, but
- 4:42Speaker 2: I think she's probably not the one to be giving
- 4:44Speaker 2: any sort of judgment about who should be entering into
- 4:48Speaker 2: sacred relationships within the royal family. I mean, she's literally
- 4:51Speaker 2: like the king's concubine at this will be married. Sorry,
- 4:55Speaker 2: so it's not true, my friend.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Everything you say it is true. I find that happens
- 5:01Speaker 1: a lot there in life. The people the judge are
- 5:06Speaker 1: always the ones that have a few skeletons in the
- 5:10Speaker 1: dehroocracy of it.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's out of control. And and the fact that
- 5:16Speaker 2: he married, I mean he literally married the woman he
- 5:18Speaker 2: was having an affair with. And a lot of people
- 5:21Speaker 2: in England are quite receptive to Camilla, which I thought
- 5:24Speaker 2: was surprising too, because I mean, you know, if it's
- 5:26Speaker 2: about morality and upholding these sort of values, she is
- 5:29Speaker 2: the antithesis of their So miss Camilla, calmed down, girl.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Calm down, calm down. In his book Prince Harry in Spare,
- 5:40Speaker 1: he recounted how he and William begged their father not
- 5:43Speaker 1: to marry Camilla. It was an upfront to the princess.
- 5:48Speaker 1: They said, if you want to have a relationship with them,
- 5:51Speaker 1: with her fair enough, but they begged their dad not
- 5:55Speaker 1: to marry her. You're right, Corey, he did marry her,
- 5:58Speaker 1: and the British public have come around to her. What
- 6:01Speaker 1: I think is really interesting in the book, too, is
- 6:04Speaker 1: that Christopher is pointing out that Camilla is somewhat afraid
- 6:08Speaker 1: of her step son, Prince William, and reportedly he only
- 6:14Speaker 1: tolerates her. My insiders are telling me, as long as
- 6:19Speaker 1: Charles is alive, may he live a long time, she's fine.
- 6:23Speaker 1: But when Charles passes and William becomes I don't think
- 6:30Speaker 1: you should kick her out the palace onto her bottom.
- 6:33Speaker 1: But I don't think he's going to be as gracious
- 6:36Speaker 1: as what she feels he probably should be. Let's remember too,
- 6:40Speaker 1: William has said one of the first things he will
- 6:42Speaker 1: do when he is king is move his mommy, Princess Diana,
- 6:47Speaker 1: to Westminster Abbey, where she will be laid to rest
- 6:51Speaker 1: with other kings and queen's. So this is a very
- 6:55Speaker 1: difficult relationship. You might have blended families yourself, you might
- 6:59Speaker 1: have stepmom's step farmers. I want to hear from you,
- 7:02Speaker 1: which brings us to our pole question of the day.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Queen Camilla initially had to stain for Kate Middleton, which
- 7:09Speaker 1: is ridiculous because I think Kate is one of the
- 7:11Speaker 1: biggest assets to this family in generations. Megan too, it
- 7:16Speaker 1: didn't end as well, but having these new people come
- 7:19Speaker 1: in with ideas and passion, I think that's a good thing.
- 7:23Speaker 1: I questioned today is do you think Camilla is a snob?
- 7:27Speaker 1: Is she a snob? Okay, go vote on our Twitter
- 7:30Speaker 1: page add naughty nice rob. You can go to our
- 7:33Speaker 1: Facebook page and vote there naughty gossip and be sure
- 7:36Speaker 1: to check back on Monday to hear your results. Hey
- 7:39Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on? Yes?
- 7:41Speaker 2: Well, you know, finally Taylor Swift has broken her silence,
- 7:44Speaker 2: you know, after the terrorist attack that targeted her Erros
- 7:47Speaker 2: tour when she was in Vienna and those shows got
- 7:50Speaker 2: canceled unfortunately and left so many fans disappointed and upset.
- 7:54Speaker 2: But she says having our Vienna shows canceled was devastating.
- 7:58Speaker 2: The reason for the castles filled me with a new
- 8:01Speaker 2: sense of fear and a tremendous amount of guilt because
- 8:04Speaker 2: so many people had planned on coming to those shows.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So she's expressing her views there, finally breaking her silence.
- 8:11Speaker 2: Now she did also express her gratitude to the authorities
- 8:15Speaker 2: for their swift action. You know, there was a whole,
- 8:18Speaker 2: like really fast thing that went down. Thank goodness they
- 8:21Speaker 2: have protocol in place, but it can really stop a
- 8:23Speaker 2: major tragedy because these guys were really looking to wreak
- 8:27Speaker 2: havoc at that concert. So she took this opportunity to
- 8:30Speaker 2: explain why she remained silent in the immediate aftermath. And
- 8:33Speaker 2: it's very smart, she says, let me be very clear,
- 8:36Speaker 2: I'm not going to speak about something publicly if I
- 8:39Speaker 2: think doing so might provoke those who would want to
- 8:42Speaker 2: harm the fans who come to my shows. Now, in
- 8:45Speaker 2: cases like this, one's silence is actually showing restraint and
- 8:49Speaker 2: waiting to express yourself at a time when it's right
- 8:51Speaker 2: to do so. I think this is very smart because
- 8:54Speaker 2: this particular demographic of people who look to harm her
- 8:57Speaker 2: and harm her fans, they are easy a retaliatory buncheon.
- 9:02Speaker 2: If she says the wrong thing, she could actually drum
- 9:06Speaker 2: up at another attack, or if she comes off too
- 9:09Speaker 2: boisterous and she denounces them publicly. She wants to just
- 9:12Speaker 2: be very careful with that. And it's odd because she
- 9:14Speaker 2: really is careful about her fans and their safety. So again,
- 9:19Speaker 2: this is really on brand for Taylor. I think is
- 9:22Speaker 2: her perfect response because she is a very She's known
- 9:26Speaker 2: to be very, very caress of her fans, right.
- 9:28Speaker 1: She protects those fans she cares. We talked about this
- 9:31Speaker 1: after the horrible incident that the concerts were canceled. We
- 9:36Speaker 1: spoke about why she hadn't said anything, and I told
- 9:38Speaker 1: you that she was working with police. She's not going
- 9:41Speaker 1: to say anything to blow the investigation. And they don't
- 9:43Speaker 1: want you to give any evidence out either or any
- 9:46Speaker 1: details because they are investigating. So what they tell you
- 9:49Speaker 1: to do is, even if it's uncomfortable, please shut up,
- 9:52Speaker 1: don't say anything. And I do like that Taylor talks
- 9:55Speaker 1: about restraint here and not saying something sometimes often can
- 10:02Speaker 1: be more powerful than jumping in. I have found that
- 10:06Speaker 1: I've got very good at holding back. At the moment,
- 10:11Speaker 1: something's going on with one of my friends and I'm
- 10:14Speaker 1: dying to fire off a harsh text, but I'm going
- 10:18Speaker 1: to wait a week, and I've put in my calendar, literally,
- 10:21Speaker 1: it's in my diary. I must not use my temper
- 10:26Speaker 1: with this one friend for a week. For a week,
- 10:30Speaker 1: and I'm giving him a little bit of the silent treatment,
- 10:33Speaker 1: and I think that set them more than if I
- 10:37Speaker 1: lash out. It's so hard because on social media we
- 10:40Speaker 1: have so much coming down us all day long, coming
- 10:42Speaker 1: in coming, in coming in, and you want to fire
- 10:45Speaker 1: back a response, fireback a response, but it takes up
- 10:47Speaker 1: your whole day, and it never ever makes me happy.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I can't. In fact, I can't remember a time ever
- 10:54Speaker 1: that I've given somebody a piece of my mind and
- 10:57Speaker 1: felt good about it afterwards. I never do. I feel
- 11:01Speaker 1: full of anger and full of passion. I just want
- 11:05Speaker 1: to just sit and gossip and sit on the character
- 11:07Speaker 1: at Bottinas with the euchori and have a good love.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I don't want to get think about this today, and
- 11:13Speaker 1: the next time that you want to retaliate, the next
- 11:16Speaker 1: time you want to respond, maybe, just maybe it might
- 11:20Speaker 1: be more powerful to say nothing. This story, oh, it
- 11:25Speaker 1: is so heartbreaking. So Ben and Jennifer are officially over.
- 11:29Speaker 1: She's just filed to remove Affleck from her name, and
- 11:33Speaker 1: now old interviews are popping up to give us some
- 11:35Speaker 1: sort of insight into where how all this went so wrong.
- 11:40Speaker 1: There's an old interview that is circulating where Ben opens
- 11:43Speaker 1: up about Jennifer's deep seated pain from her childhood, and
- 11:48Speaker 1: he said quote Jen felt emotionally neglected as a child.
- 11:54Speaker 1: He goes on to say that there aren't enough followers
- 11:58Speaker 1: likes in the world world to fulfill gen sense of
- 12:03Speaker 1: lunging and pain. I think Ben has just really summed
- 12:07Speaker 1: up what a lot of celebrities go through. Rosie o'donnald
- 12:11Speaker 1: talked about this. There was a great pain inside, and
- 12:13Speaker 1: Madonna talked about it. When Madonna's mother passed away when
- 12:16Speaker 1: she was younger, she had this great pain and so
- 12:19Speaker 1: her whole life was about making people like her. She
- 12:23Speaker 1: wanted to be important, she wanted to be famous, and
- 12:26Speaker 1: she certainly is. The thing is what is that cost?
- 12:31Speaker 3: Right? Right?
- 12:32Speaker 2: Yeah? And I have to say too, And I shared
- 12:35Speaker 2: this with friends and young people who need to hear it.
- 12:37Speaker 2: You know, I struggled a lot in my late twenties
- 12:40Speaker 2: with this unresolved childhood trauma, if you will, from a
- 12:43Speaker 2: father who left me as a baby. My mom was
- 12:45Speaker 2: a young mom, and I didn't even realize it was
- 12:49Speaker 2: bothering me until I went to therapy and did the work.
- 12:51Speaker 2: That's why I love that. Ben Affleck has also made
- 12:55Speaker 2: this association based on his on work dealing with his alcohol,
- 13:00Speaker 2: and that you do the work and you get to
- 13:02Speaker 2: the root of why maybe you're abusing substances or drinking
- 13:06Speaker 2: or whatever the situation may be. So I really think,
- 13:08Speaker 2: because I've been there and I've done the work and
- 13:10Speaker 2: gotten better from it, I think Jennifer has not done
- 13:12Speaker 2: that work. I think she's still trying to get all
- 13:16Speaker 2: the followers and staging fake paparazzi shots so that you know,
- 13:19Speaker 2: she can convince us that she's still the girl from
- 13:22Speaker 2: the block and all these things. She has not done
- 13:24Speaker 2: the work.
- 13:26Speaker 1: You can see it, can't you. It's like an open
- 13:27Speaker 1: wound somebody just crying out in pay and crying out
- 13:30Speaker 1: for help for me. My childhood trauma, the vast majority
- 13:35Speaker 1: of it was my arm and I knew very early
- 13:38Speaker 1: on what it was like to be different. And my
- 13:40Speaker 1: mom and dad they were from the generation where they
- 13:43Speaker 1: hid you away to protect you, not because they were
- 13:45Speaker 1: embarrassed of mem right. They didn't want me to be hurt.
- 13:49Speaker 1: So I spent a lot of time as a child
- 13:52Speaker 1: hidden away. If you look through my family photo albums,
- 13:55Speaker 1: there's pictures of all my brothers and sisters, but there's
- 13:57Speaker 1: none of me because I always had my arm in
- 13:59Speaker 1: a plaster, a band age, or in a sling, and
- 14:02Speaker 1: so that was the generation that hid this trauma. Now
- 14:07Speaker 1: I'm happy to see and to report that that seems
- 14:11Speaker 1: to have changed. Couring. Now people are letting their kids
- 14:14Speaker 1: be front and center. We've seen that recently this week.
- 14:18Speaker 1: But now with disabilities, kids that have learning issues, they're
- 14:22Speaker 1: now instead of being hidden back at the hotel, they're
- 14:25Speaker 1: being brought to the events, brought to the party so
- 14:29Speaker 1: we can all see it. And I think that's just
- 14:32Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful thing. Ben here, It's really interesting, isn't it.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Do you have friends who have childhood trauma that just
- 14:40Speaker 1: don't want to deal because we all have it. None
- 14:44Speaker 1: of us had a perfect childhood. We've all got that
- 14:47Speaker 1: thing in our childhood that still eats at us. And
- 14:50Speaker 1: until you talk about it, until you really figure it out,
- 14:54Speaker 1: it can never ever heal. Okay, we're going to take
- 14:58Speaker 1: a quick break and we will be right back. Welcome
- 15:03Speaker 1: back to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm Rob Shooter
- 15:07Speaker 1: with our dear friend Corey Andrew. Hey, Corey, let's get
- 15:09Speaker 1: to the polls. That last show we talked about, Ben
- 15:13Speaker 1: and Jen's Marrit All those began during their honeymoon. Our
- 15:17Speaker 1: question was quite simple, are your team Jen or are
- 15:20Speaker 1: your team Ben? Seventy at the moment? A team Jen?
- 15:26Speaker 1: You are Team Jen at the moment. Don't forget to
- 15:29Speaker 1: vote on today's poll. Go to our Twitter page at
- 15:32Speaker 1: Naughty Nice Rob or our Facebook page which is Naughty Gossip,
- 15:35Speaker 1: and be sure to check back on Monday to hear
- 15:38Speaker 1: your results. And now it's time for our nicest.
- 15:48Speaker 2: That was my little homage to Chris Martin there from
- 15:53Speaker 2: did you catch it? Little call play? So Chris Martin,
- 15:57Speaker 2: he just covered Taylor Swift's love story in after her
- 16:00Speaker 2: Era shows were canceled, as we just talked about, and
- 16:03Speaker 2: he gave it was like a heartfelt nod to her
- 16:06Speaker 2: fans because he was sensitive to the fact that they
- 16:09Speaker 2: were so disappointed that her show got abruptly canceled due
- 16:12Speaker 2: to that terrorist threat. So he did this song and
- 16:15Speaker 2: it came just two weeks after she was forced to
- 16:17Speaker 2: cancel that show. Of course. Now during the performance, Martin
- 16:20Speaker 2: joked with the crowd, he goes, if this is not good,
- 16:23Speaker 2: please please don't put it on YouTube because I don't
- 16:25Speaker 2: want to get in trouble with Taylor, but I'm sure
- 16:28Speaker 2: she would find it to be a wonderful gesture. And
- 16:31Speaker 2: Chris Martin is just such a sweetheart, so how could
- 16:33Speaker 2: you not love Chris Martin.
- 16:35Speaker 1: So I liked it that he did say, don't put
- 16:39Speaker 1: it on YouTube of Taylor just lovely. I think tipping
- 16:43Speaker 1: your hat pain respect to another artist, to another friend,
- 16:47Speaker 1: to another human being. It's just that it was such
- 16:49Speaker 1: a good way to go. None of us got here
- 16:51Speaker 1: by ourselves. We all stand on somebody else's shoulders. And
- 16:55Speaker 1: I love that Chris is the first to admit it.
- 16:58Speaker 1: And let's do our naughtice of the day. We now
- 17:02Speaker 1: have an insight into Matthew Perry and Brooke Mueller's complicated relationship.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Brook Mueller is a socialite. She was married to Charlie
- 17:09Speaker 1: Sheen for a while, so the two of them were
- 17:12Speaker 1: in a rehab facility together and they became friends. And then,
- 17:17Speaker 1: unfortunately that friendship became quite dark because it was based
- 17:22Speaker 1: on prescription medication. US Weekly are reporting for years on
- 17:28Speaker 1: and off, Matthew and Brooke traded information about doctors who
- 17:32Speaker 1: were the most liberal doctors in LA to get medication
- 17:35Speaker 1: from who were the doctors that were willing to bend
- 17:38Speaker 1: the rules a little bit. So a really scary co dependant,
- 17:44Speaker 1: destructive friendship relationship here, and that explains why these two
- 17:50Speaker 1: really were friends. Now and another insider is saying that
- 17:53Speaker 1: they wouldn't call it friends in the traditional sense, as
- 17:56Speaker 1: hopefully we have friends, but they certainly had a connection. Now,
- 17:59Speaker 1: let's not forget that Brooke found herself in burial in
- 18:04Speaker 1: the ongoing investigation into his death, and he said to
- 18:09Speaker 1: have provided names of potentially questionable doctors to the authorities,
- 18:17Speaker 1: and naughtier stuff for the day. Let's end with a
- 18:19Speaker 1: moment of r I love this quote from Lady Gaga.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I remind myself of this quote all the time. There
- 18:27Speaker 1: can be one hundred people in the room and ninety
- 18:31Speaker 1: nine don't believe in you, but one does. It only
- 18:37Speaker 1: takes one. Yes, there was a time in my life
- 18:41Speaker 1: where I did not know I would find a happy, great,
- 18:45Speaker 1: kind partner, boyfriend, husband. But then I realized there's a
- 18:50Speaker 1: lot of people in the world.
- 18:51Speaker 3: I've only got to find one, not ten, I've only
- 18:56Speaker 3: got to find one. My career, everybody does and have
- 19:00Speaker 3: to like me, but I need one executive, one person
- 19:04Speaker 3: in power to say yes.
- 19:06Speaker 1: It just takes one. If you are feeling overwhelmed today,
- 19:11Speaker 1: if you're feeling like you're just never going to get
- 19:12Speaker 1: a break, remember that all it takes is one. And
- 19:17Speaker 1: you know what, maybe you're the one. Maybe you can
- 19:20Speaker 1: say yes to yourself today. Hey, that is it for
- 19:24Speaker 1: this week. Thank you so much for listening to The
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