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Talks to Mark Rawlins & Luke Molloy about their choice of The Talons of Weng Chiang (4/6) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Hamster with a blunt penknife the Doctor Who commentary
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  podcast. Finally, not a parody of that
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  but actually, the ridiculous way I say it myself.
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  I'm hated, hey, with the fabulous Loop monoi monoi.
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  See that annoyed take me to the security rule porn star from
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  Hello. Hello.
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  If you just put in Mark, wrote an episode 4.
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  And we're gentlemen, we're going to start with a song.
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  So I'm going to count us in and let's all have a little bit of
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  virile in, you ready? I've for free to do Daisy.
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  Daisy, give me your arms. I can't afford a carriage.
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  Oh, you don't even know the word Gallifrey or to welcome.
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  One. And we left Lena being eaten by
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  a rack. I love her.
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  I do love it when they do like show tunes and we're like the
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  angel, put the Devil in Me, Daleks in Manhattan.
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  Once I found this one then. There's a rocket ship on my way
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  to Mars on a collision course with that one.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, foxes, amazing, nothing's as good as
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  Daisy Daisy though. As you anymore show tunes, like
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  the snow is my favorite one, another great show in the
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  Galaxy. Oh, the right, we're talking
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  about racism. I don't really like that one.
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  Very know, it just sounds like the snake that's the songs.
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  Do we stop doing now after? Yeah, I used to oh I got the
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  best one of all songs for time. I do woke up.
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  Today there's something. So nostalgic violence on lost
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  for a minute. Anyway they'll is dead that's
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  it. Yeah, all over the walls to make
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  it look like there's blood there.
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  You know, is that it's a nice detail on.
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  He says at the end of the story something about the rats did how
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  did He say that they're going to get sorted out all cleared up or
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  there is a line. I noticed last time I watched
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  can you make them smile on again there was something he said
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  about the rats look out for it. Do you know that a poor Louise
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  Jameson was very sick during these scenes and she's forced to
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  walk around in underwear and get herself.
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  Very wet, indeed, I win. I bet there's something out
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  there that can see how dare you. Come on this podcast, sorry,
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  make it sexually been sexually, then I live my life.
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  Your bio big song without a bit of flow in.
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  Right, let's go. If I had my leg more by a giant
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  rap though, I won't just be able to walk it off right rats, like
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  full of infection. And stuff Ali I would be really
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  scared about believers. They actually I just got a shoe
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  maybe just sort of lichter Mark raw maybe he licked.
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  Very disappointing last meal, but the doctors shot him.
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  I mean, that's quite harsh in it.
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  Yeah. But Tom Baker takes a piss,
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  isn't he? Put, he kills what's so Lon?
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  Brain of morbius. Just cyanides Mom, I love that
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  like that dog. Yeah, why not?
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  We'll have a go at Colin Baker. Hey, you know, cyanide in shock.
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  I yeah. And blowing out the Cyber
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  leader, but, you know, troughton's going around and
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  sees the deaf murder in ice water is left, right?
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  You know, it's just how it's done, isn't it?
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  It's just that it's done in in Season 22 and in the two,
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  doctors, it's just so vulgar. It's like the the story is
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  anyway, but it's quite something to see the doctor and really for
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  ages strangle and like put the cyanide on it.
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  And I would say there's a fabulous, Exposition seen in a
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  minute, right? And then Lila cut some all dead
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  when she walks in the dress and no one can speak because she
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  looks so beautiful. Oh yeah.
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  And life is says perfectly. Charming.
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  It's really such a nice blow. Wouldn't you just love to to
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  chat with life? What did I do?
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  I want to start by going like, for from beginning.
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  Now, after this, it does make, you know what's interesting?
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  Is it they stepped from this. Oh.
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  I think that Jacob would like for these really strong for the
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  first six seasons and then it does start to Trail off a bit
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  even that's a fair, right? This layer.
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  Yeah, but it does have 30 by the actually it's got 14 with that
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  weird audio. What it was when people should
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  obviously travel back to the past which was very sad and
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  people are going o cut off and its prime.
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  I'm like, berries, you've had plenty, you got a lot of content
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  there, you know and we had J go like foot and Strax please.
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  Well So I like structs a lighter, green light for I did
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  not like that story. It's a bizarre mix it.
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  That's that's that a to be big finish thing.
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  They do. Right?
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  Element and River Song and Captain night from the web of
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  fear. Alfie Kohn.
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  Yeah, and Jago turns up in a paternoster story but it does
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  sound old Christopher Benjamin by that point because I think
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  like for Chatterbox dude, gone for a few years by that point.
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  And he does sound a bit sad and that Made me sad.
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  Let's the to it. I think the river song One, it
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  has Jago in running the theater before.
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  Yeah, I think he's in that one as well.
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  Can I just say, you know, take food tray go here?
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  Yeah. It's just saying about how, you
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  know, I get my blood rushing. That's the curtains about to go
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  up. This, let me doing a podcast and
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  then you're like, Casey go. We don't do anything.
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  I don't know. They are such a funny, a guy,
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  I'm sad case he dies because these two are very funny the way
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  he put us in battle. It's and there's a running gag
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  of mrs. Samuel.
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  So the costume woman isn't there?
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  Yeah, because she's coming after me.
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  The old Bloodhound, whenever me and doctor who does this every
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  now and again there's somebody who's mentioned off-screen
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  several times. You're like our man.
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  What would that person? It's like Hyacinth bouquet son.
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  You know ya know it was going to be an absolute monster but you
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  can never see him you know in the love of monsters script
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  elsens flatmate comes in at one point point.
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  I was it lay, doesn't that just change our fan?
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  I always assumed out and lived on his own at some watch that
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  episode 100 times thinking of something, you know, the first
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  episode of The X-Files, they gave Scully a boyfriend and then
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  before are they filmed all the scenes, they edited out all
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  those things because they were aware of the sexual Chemistry
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  Between Scarlet Scully and Mulder.
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  That I know this is more interesting and sometimes taking
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  stuff out adds a lot. Yeah, I think it's better if
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  something. Like you know like Rebus
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  operation graph indicate, he keeps going on about his brother
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  that took the throne, hopefully you guys can or in Carnival of
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  monsters. I keep talking about President
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  desorb Carly's brother, I love that.
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  I love it when it's times all riverhounds.
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  Well, I mean, Russell T, Davies does that best as the only
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  describes time or in little bursts?
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  The timelines that just give my only knowledge in the cement.
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  Should be, not too low, but the way I see it is that we saw the
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  very last day of the time. Or when it all, just bogged down
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  to just one final attack. So, all the mud stuff happened.
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  Well, before that, that just happened off-screen.
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  Yeah, cause that's the last two minutes, which were very dull.
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  We're probably gonna get Magnus grill, time War at some point
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  only if he's traveling around. Oh yeah, I would say that if
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  anyone is intrigued about picking up, Jay going like foot
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  because I don't think I ever came away from Thailand.
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  Stinking Leo. I felt they were good but
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  probably not good. 2 by 13, so softer.
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  But then I have a bit of a collector, but I listen to,
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  like, the first two series, and I thought it was some of the
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  best big finish I did for, for a long time.
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  And then, I just sort of got sucked in.
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  But David colleagues in the second series as the as the
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  vampire fucking chilling. He wants then first couple of
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  series big finish did the other different aim, each series, or a
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  different drive and that really makes it go.
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  Do you know, I even like the sea XT series.
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  Oh my God, that's great. Just for the best.
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  It's so wonderful. We just miss a scene where Chang
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  goes back to listen. And listen says, you're
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  dismissed, I want nothing more to do with, you got a river.
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  He thinks that Magnus crew is a gold.
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  So he goes right. I'm going to do it.
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  Sacrifice on the stage. So so it's building up all this
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  suspense for the magic show. That's about to happen where
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  he's got the gun out on the doctor.
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  Yeah, it's brilliantly done. So, this is my favorite scene of
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  the six parts. This this magic show that's
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  about to happen now. I mean, just the dr.
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  Alida and then costumes, sat in the Box in a theater that it's
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  just, it's already great. If I'm smoking it.
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  This is the sort of pacing you wouldn't do now.
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  So you'd lose all of this. Yeah, it'd be like be it would
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  be all the plot piece of this story and none of the extras.
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  And I think is the extras that make this, yeah.
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  Johnny, the characters are just so rich, aren't they?
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  I suppose you've got your own men's scattered throughout the
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  audience. I love Jake.
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  Oh, so what he is. Brilliant.
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  And then, yeah, everybody said that those two characters were
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  strong enough to sustain their own show and props.
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  The big finish for proving that point.
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  Yeah. Well, apparently, it was
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  considered around at the time only, they genuinely did.
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  Which? Yeah, they said, that didn't
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  surprise that they wouldn't us, but we got Blake seven instead
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  of the Jeremy. Brett.
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  Sherlock Holmes is, that's what that would look like.
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  It would have been great. You don't bad at all the best
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  British actors. In the Jayco and Lightfoot
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  Series be Sherlock Holmes bubble with fun in there.
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  I know you didn't just like, forget knocked out again in a
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  minute when he comes out. Yeah, here we go.
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  Yeah, the audience. This
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  Made to look like a lot of people do.
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  I love singing in Doctor Who? Yeah, even the three I've done
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  so far but love of monsters. It's got so many good little
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  Tunes it off. See yellow.
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  And then you today, that was the best thing in all of classic.
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  You don't you lalalalala? Yeah, well this is gay.
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  The Highland. Fling.
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  Casey's, like I said, there were monsters.
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  Are what along and he's dead. I'll tell you those, five people
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  look very enthusiastic to suggest the massive audience,
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  only. All this is where he does.
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  Is this is his alliteration. Here is someone else Jake.
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  Oh yeah, so whose legendary Legend to me?
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  I'll actually will not mention big for this again.
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  But Ivy actually see that they audio where he meets Oscar Wilde
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  and they have an alliteration off at the end really am.
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  It was a John Dory script that more Stuff that one line will
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  start sucking forever to come up with.
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  It is brilliant mean basically, anything John Tony Rice has told
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  your people is are we should get some big finish, right?
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  It's on the TV. I don't really agree with that,
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  but he is the one that I think should get the chance and Johnny
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  Morris. I've Johnny Morris as well.
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  Coughing he's pretty consistent to consistent but it doesn't
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  give me the same exciting Fleur that the only does the tingles
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  that look, we're going to watch this whole magic show.
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  House, marvelous turns a cloth inter pixie dust.
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  You've really like, made this better for me now.
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  I know it's real magic though. Not just TV edit from the gun
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  bit, obviously I think. Yeah, I don't function that one.
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  Yeah. Otherwise come on.
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  It's Tom Baker's face here as well.
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  Yeah, the way and just brings it closer to his face.
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  There's a detail as well about Chang where he says that he was
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  just like the son of a peasant man and he would have been a
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  nobody if we really hadn't given him these sort of illustrious
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  magical powers. So he's got, he's kind of got a
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  lot to be thankful for. She's well, motivate such a
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  showdown, but they're not using any words.
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  And it's just high in, because it's in front of the audience's
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  eye view. But Deli, since I'm literally
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  going a little bit on the drums in front of his face.
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  That's a great light as well. You're measuring 50 people did
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  like I got it right. And then when the doctor goes
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  for onto the stage goes into the box, and then walks out there.
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  Why it's so hard to write talk to those that such a constant
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  fine line between serious and comedy and the best writers just
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  seem to get it right? There's just I know I said, I
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  know I had a bit of that off on a Robert Holmes in the off but
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  he's one of the best classic talk to you guys.
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  I wasn't trying to say anything Shane.
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  I don't love him as much. Such as other people, was that a
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  point in remark about me and Steven Moffat there because I'll
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  tell you what, there's one thing that's even more fit and Robert
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  Holmes of got in common, there is absolutely a confidence to
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  their writing. Oh yeah, there's a self
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  assurance to it. Well I Things One tips and too
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  far in the other direction but here we go.
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  That's see things. I think I want from a script.
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  This is confidence and their own style.
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  So I netted never bothers me if someone comes in and doesn't do
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  a story that I Take you like, but it's got its own style about
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  it. Then I'm very happy that I'd
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  say, Moffat, construct a plot better than homes, but I'll say
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  homes, can characterize better than Mafia hit, man.
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  It, then I bring the children together.
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  He knows, dr. You got to get to know how
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  doctor who works. And by this point, he's really,
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  you know, from his earliest groups.
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  Oh yeah, like TVs, just so different homes.
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  Would never have thought about writing anything with it, right?
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  Right. It just two different doesn't
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  doesn't Moffitt and Davies. Both identify Arc in space as
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  their favorite classic who do story.
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  Yeah. How is I think for Davies?
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  It's how its characterized and the atmosphere for Mafia is how
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  its constructed ideas and stuff. Yeah.
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  Everyone stop talking about well we just mesmerized I and I was
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  just waiting for the bit where he works and he audience have
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  fallen about a brilliant. I think what I'm missing is that
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  that drag queen from the rings of akhaten being there with the
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  painted lips, you know? I mean yeah Vic yeah.
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  The could be a caught here with the it cuts to the audience and
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  the rings of akhaten said what shit?
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  What's your name on stage? One thing we haven't mentioned,
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  which is directly stolen from this, and that is the unquiet.
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  Dead has a sequence in a theater with a bit of a show going on.
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  That's, that's been to do with this.
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  It's just said, later, isn't it? Well, they're very different.
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  I think it means Victorian times.
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  I think the only little sticker set.
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  A totally loving loving, the Adoration of the Crowd.
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  Oh, you telling me you don't think gate.
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  It's is capable of cherry-picking from classic Who
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  that's all I'm saying. Take this much of it.
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  I don't think he thought the talents of wing tank when he was
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  writing the unquiet dead. I think he for my exams Wang
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  qiang a lot, he victoriana, he just brought it.
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  That's it, that's quite a common place to set sci-fi, especially,
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  toxic. So, I'm going to find an
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  interview now where he says it very wrong.
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  Thoughts is a law in it. It's how the doctor changes when
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  KC falls out, he goes nothing. It suddenly, this is very
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  serious. And what's great is Grill?
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  Wants to humiliate him after taking him to like, you know,
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  popularity to stardom. Now he's going to Bar hate that
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  bit. Yeah, yeah, I know it's a props
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  or but hate the fact he picks up the actual like, slice bit of
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  the sword when he pulls out. That last one, we're kind of
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  drops it, then he had. Oh yeah.
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  But then he picks it up by the by the slice.
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  My lonely, you should have gone again and I just think I was
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  poor hands, but The bro, I just think that's so horrible.
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  Humiliating my that put him in that box.
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  And now he slinks off to get chewed up by a rat poor Chang.
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  This is exactly how you want the doctor to be, though, isn't it?
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  It's a hero like just enjoying it when it's silly but then
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  really serious when it's nice to be and he goes down to the
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  sewers now, doesn't he says, you know, you've been left to carry
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  the can this is on you now. That's really, really great it.
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  He's a very sophisticated character.
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  Yeah, I think people can only see the problematic parts of his
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  character, but Ashley, then the feel like, you know, it's people
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  just jump on that bit. But they's, the people that
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  actually sit and enjoy, Thailand the wing tank or they just a
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  small little people. The watch part 1 C.
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  And don't actually get further in the story and see the rest of
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  the nation and stuff. But I'm not going to sit and
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  watch it all the way through. And look at the
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  characterization. It sucks.
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  It just trotted in Hayden that stock.
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  He went straight away when commit suicide that yeah wiesen,
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  I did love that. You do you know in episode 1
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  when the guy crunches yeah we totally missed.
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  Oh that's a really good scene, isn't it?
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  What we call it? The sting of the Scorpion on me
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  like a scorpion venom that's nasty.
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  Yeah. It's just just in general with
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  Talons. It's is harder to talk about
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  one. That's really good.
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  Is it without sounding board because it's only so much you
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  can say oh this is great and that's amazing.
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  What do you think there's anything?
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  Would you change anything? No, I don't even find the rap
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  that problematic, which is the one thing people go to.
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  I mean, it's so sort of a leading question for the river.
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  Put in the racism side. So what sighs?
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  You know, I wouldn't change anything.
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  I just it's just a one of the perfect stories.
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  I was introduced a length and generally, for a six-part.
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  Are I would say? Yeah, this could be for, but it
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  would lose so much. It would lose so much.
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  Yeah. This His sometimes always said
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  like to, if you're showing a non-fan, a doctor, who story
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  would you show? No.
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  And this for the first time wouldn't what it?
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  But if it's supposed to be a great story, why?
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  It's a great, it's a great story for people that are into dr.
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  Hey, right. And I think that like I said on
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  part one or whatever that, when I watched in order, I think I
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  appreciated it so much more because I did shows, I did show
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  this to my ex I show two stories, I showed this and time
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  and the Rani because I wanted to show two contrasting scores
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  because he is probably all just old old fashioned and he watched
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  this, they said no that was really fun, I enjoyed that
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  races. But that was fun, then he was
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  hired in the Romney and he went I walked I can't really see much
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  of a difference between the two. Well, that's it.
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  I think normal people just don't see that much vilified.
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  It's just old TV to that and we Take the classics to harm.
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  Don't ever watch the classics with somebody who's not a fan
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  because they're going to watch two different go.
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  Well, that's just embarrassing. Yeah.
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  Like and that's not on them, that's on you for making them
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  watch it and then one in them to love it.
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  Exactly. I showed Rachel city of Death
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  part 1. When I when she gave me the
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  chance social one episode The to Siri like and I thought you know
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  it's got its got every freely you know like you think of the
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  fun. It's like at the location
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  filming. It's funny though.
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  Just nothing, I didn't quite but now it's tarnished.
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  It a bit for me because I know the bitch she was getting bored
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  and was Romano in the doctor running around Paris for ages
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  because that you wouldn't get that pace.
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  And in modern day, which is, I used to love that with the
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  music. But now I think tarnished bad
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  memories. I think.
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  I think the, well, I mean, I can't really say that's a mark
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  who's got a podcast where he's showing some of the user washed.
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  For the entire Runner but I'm amazed how.
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  Well, so he takes it, you're immune to her liking or not
• 25:27
  liking stuff because you know your what season 15 now, hmm.
• 25:31
  Buzzer of in a time where she's not like something and you've
• 25:33
  been like, oh no, I'm never gonna like that again.
• 25:36
  All the other way. Racial change my opinion of
• 25:38
  their. I'll change my, but I sometimes
• 25:41
  it's surprising what she would pick up on or you would think a
• 25:45
  non-fan would pick up on or not? But I mean, yeah, like this one
• 25:50
  should really enjoy. This bind.
• 25:51
  Yeah, I knew that she would enjoy this.
• 25:53
  I think a non-fan would, I would say a non-fan would enjoy this.
• 25:56
  Hey, just wanna be the first one to show them because I think
• 25:59
  when I watched it first, it was like, it was good, but it
• 26:02
  wasn't. But because wouldn't have
• 26:04
  convinced me to watch talk to her.
• 26:05
  If you're showing someone like old TV for the first time, the
• 26:08
  production in this would be great.
• 26:11
  So they wouldn't it like for the time like impressive but it's no
• 26:15
  blow compared to c v. Now this is slow but no, it
• 26:17
  wouldn't. I think if someone had never
• 26:19
  seen classes, exhale, And then watch this.
• 26:21
  They would just say sets, the that we think are really
• 26:26
  convinced them because we see the rest of Doctor Who, but they
• 26:29
  would, you'll see a set right? Yeah.
• 26:31
  I think so and then the Indians. Yeah.
• 26:40
  That one's the best one. Do you know what it is though?
• 26:42
  Because he goes, it's the holiday, but it's, but it's all
• 26:47
  the bad guys in a cab running off into Running off into the
• 26:52
  night, that's just great. What a cliff and they're all
• 26:55
  laughing in the heart. Fantastic.
• 26:57
  Well, are you ready for our next round of questions from Twitter?
• 27:01
  I just say that do it. This story, I would pick will be
• 27:06
  remembrance of the Daleks, so that's another shower, set up
• 27:08
  for it because that's the one that I watched when I was a kid.
• 27:12
  When I was first getting into classic, talk to us, like, oh my
• 27:15
  God, this is class. What is I thought that with my
• 27:19
  niece? Remember the Daleks and then I
• 27:23
  was stop watching that bit where ice she made me rewind, the
• 27:26
  sequence, whereas be something.it with baseball bat
• 27:28
  and jobs for the window also about 50 times as I've ever seen
• 27:32
  it fucking seen again after this.
• 27:34
  That is a good bit. So it works.
• 27:37
  That would be a good one. Yeah.
• 27:39
  What would you choose the whole of Doctor?
• 27:42
  Who I don't think you can pick black and white.
• 27:47
  I think that's huge too much for someone.
• 27:50
  Maybe actually maybe time? Was he your first episode was
• 27:54
  called this wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be and
• 27:58
  that was black and white. Yeah.
• 28:00
  Yeah. It does come with that extra
• 28:02
  different. Sort of expectation doesn't have
• 28:03
  his black and white as well. And now I think the choice may
• 28:08
  be people that offer bit more or would be a bit more lenient to
• 28:11
  it because it's black and white. I don't know, maybe start with
• 28:14
  underworld and then the only way.
• 28:16
  Yeah, I think if you start as close to modern day, Possible.
• 28:21
  So, like isil has the story. Yeah, it's a fenric or something
• 28:24
  like that bitpay. Seriousness.
• 28:26
  It's got its it looks a bit more like modern that and then throw
• 28:30
  in the five doctors so they get. So they got Taste, of course,
• 28:32
  dr. Be like snack on no no we got to
• 28:39
  say, you can say question, please?
• 28:41
  Okay, accused of talking over you too many times off you go.
• 28:43
  No, no, I was gonna say, okay, well I've got a question then
• 28:47
  for you fellas. It's from very Pete Lambert.
• 28:50
  The Wonderful people Amber at Professor underscore quite a
• 28:53
  mess. That's a great name.
• 28:57
  Have you seen the 60s food Manchu movie?
• 29:00
  Starring? Christopher Lee.
• 29:01
  They were huge and often on BBC One in the 70s, definitely an
• 29:04
  inspiration. You said this to this as
• 29:07
  Frankenstein Worcester morbius, The Twist that Chang was to see
• 29:10
  by Grill rather than being the cause of them benevolence gets
• 29:14
  overlooked. My question is, is the doctor
• 29:17
  too forgiving of Chang at the end.
• 29:21
  Such an interesting one, I think he, I feel proper sympathy for
• 29:27
  Chang even though I shouldn't. But I think that's just the
• 29:32
  performance is so good that I really do.
• 29:35
  And so I don't think the doctors to sympathetic but then he does
• 29:39
  actually like he does kill like 17 girls, so it really shouldn't
• 29:45
  be sympathetic. The doctor kicks off at other
• 29:48
  people for a lot less. Any pink already bored?
• 29:54
  Oh God. On the scales of it maybe is too
• 29:58
  sympathetic but then I like Changsha.
• 30:01
  I think it's nice having that sympathy there that you are.
• 30:03
  Yeah I feel sympathy for him and he is sitting there laughing
• 30:06
  bye. Rat dying.
• 30:07
  So it's not like anything you know?
• 30:09
  He is getting his comeuppance in the narrative, isn't he?
• 30:13
  Are you sure he's had some pathetic because when Chang is
• 30:15
  going to come on Chang I want to I need to know and he's dying.
• 30:18
  He's got and then he just goes Can't get an answer to a simple
• 30:22
  question and that's what he says after he dies.
• 30:27
  It's what I mean I think you'd expect so everything is killed
• 30:31
  seventeen girls. You expect.
• 30:32
  That socks is go in there and kick him in the face with.
• 30:37
  Yeah that's a good question. Okay well here's another
• 30:39
  question. Then from Andrew curnow at
• 30:42
  Andrew Canal imaginatively were the sigma experiments are
• 30:48
  success a brilliant success. What?
• 30:52
  I don't obviously not well, no, it's got a bent face.
• 30:58
  Is that one? I'll do one more then, sorry,
• 31:00
  Andrea program, Steve. Alexander lovely.
• 31:06
  Stephen honesty always read as much as you do.
• 31:09
  That's why I love having the pair of your.
• 31:12
  That's the Alexander UK. Why the hell would lie?
• 31:16
  Let ever dress in her skins again after the outfit?
• 31:19
  She gets in this story. Re.
• 31:21
  But I don't think she particularly likes being in
• 31:24
  these outfits as she looks crushed alive.
• 31:27
  She looks great. Yeah, yeah, he does go back when
• 31:30
  she go back after Sighing nothing works, she's not an
• 31:34
  invisible enemy, she's back in her but that's her character
• 31:38
  like she's part. Still part of her tribe part of
• 31:42
  her home and being in that outfit is what she's always
• 31:45
  known. So I think she has to go back.
• 31:48
  Although she's sort of evolving in the way learning from the
• 31:50
  doctor and learning on a on the sort of Journey.
• 31:53
  But she would, that's her identity, isn't it was still so
• 31:56
  I mean she does wear that marvelous jumper and horrifying.
• 31:58
  I'm yeah, I sure ain't scribe nowadays.
• 32:02
  As you will get the costume evolving with the character.
• 32:05
  They would do it properly, so that she was learning slowly and
• 32:08
  the costumes would sort of go with that.
• 32:12
  I mean, there's no real answer part from to get a legs out for
• 32:16
  the audience, just like it's a pretty.
• 32:18
  So you object, no cancelled cancelled.
• 32:32
  Two forms throughout, don't they, you know, accurate and
• 32:35
  Tegan and all of that, but leave us having that no Patrick lost
• 32:39
  his stomach in order like Sarah Jane.
• 32:41
  They've always had just warm whatever I suppose it is a bit
• 32:44
  different but it's uniform. Look over a costume.
• 32:48
  You see what I mean? No, I agree.
• 32:50
  And I think that I think that's the reason I don't like it more
• 32:54
  than. So just the other one because I
• 32:56
  just don't like the companions being in costumes.
• 32:59
  It just doesn't make them feel real.
• 33:00
  Yeah. That's what it is.
• 33:02
  And you No, what I apologize. There is absolutely nothing
• 33:05
  wrong with admiring, what you see, and you've also admired her
• 33:09
  acting the characterization. I don't know this, so it's not
• 33:13
  just like, you're a dirty old perv.
• 33:14
  What if I was in charge, then I wouldn't have put it laughing.
• 33:24
  I wouldn't have put it back in the skin.
• 33:28
  The jumper out of kept her in the Jump.
• 33:30
  Part is terrific. I just kept changing.
• 33:32
  Aging it I like I like companions to change costume
• 33:34
  multi-room on a tee and and angry.
• 33:37
  Yeah what was and then while I'm sorry it's that red one in
• 33:45
  Warriors gave amazing. Yeah love the what I loved one
• 33:48
  from State of Decay with that's that on its Bergen.
• 33:52
  Yeah nothing like the blond jacket are like the schoolgirl
• 33:55
  outfit from see it. I'm sure.
• 34:00
  That's your favorite. Yeah yeah I can't actually think
• 34:03
  she looks hotter in the in the halls of 9/11 you know she's got
• 34:07
  her own like dr. Version of the cost.
• 34:08
  You just sit there are lakes with the pink ocean of yes, it's
• 34:12
  something fun Alice is in. The only misfire is the
• 34:16
  nightmare of Eden returns Michelle, wasn't it?
• 34:20
  She does. She looks so much better when
• 34:26
  she's rocking. Like a variant of sort of the
• 34:29
  doctor in a Way like the Blazer and stuff.
• 34:31
  Are you going to make a point then when I was going to say
• 34:33
  with leaders cost around this time Doctor Who is you know
• 34:37
  Peking in popularity and merchandise is coming out and
• 34:40
  you've got the Lila doll, haven't you?
• 34:41
  So you need that costume to wear that wreck if she was wearing
• 34:44
  something different she comes. No you all the merchandise and
• 34:47
  stuff around this time that a hair on that doll dolls which is
• 34:55
  the first time you heard that When you said Peking, then
• 34:59
  people in Peking it's at Peak its people.
• 35:06
  Okay. She has to do then she's like a
• 35:08
  lighter one and a darker one. Yeah.
• 35:11
  That looks good. No, that used to throw me as
• 35:14
  well. Well, their eyes change in cost
• 35:17
  like society and of course, Honestly, well, I'll be back on
• 35:30
  watch episode five. Now, he's never gonna get to his
• 35:32
  ping pong.