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Speaker 1: get into today's stories. On the morning of December twenty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, a woman in her forties walked into a
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Speaker 1: jail cell in Los Angeles, California. Now, in this jail
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Speaker 1: cell already was another inmate. Her name was Ada Louise Smith.
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Speaker 1: She was thirty two years old and at the time
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Speaker 1: she was laying on one of the benches inside of
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Speaker 1: this cell. Eda had actually been in jail for four
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Speaker 1: days leading up to this moment. The police were sure
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Speaker 1: Eda had something to do with the savage murder of
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Speaker 1: a nurse in the area, but they really didn't understand
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Speaker 1: what role she had played. In fact, virtually everything about
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Speaker 1: Eda was very confusing to police, and Eda herself was
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Speaker 1: not really doing herself any favors because she wasn't really
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Speaker 1: explaining how she had the information that she had. Now
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Speaker 1: Eda had already gone through a ten hour long interrogation
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Speaker 1: which led police nowhere. She had undergone a polygraph test,
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Speaker 1: which didn't lead to any new answers, and she had
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Speaker 1: also undergone a thorough strip search. She had been kept
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Speaker 1: without food for twenty four hours. At one point, she
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Speaker 1: had been left in this cold jail cell without shoes
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Speaker 1: for four days. But she just wouldn't crack. She would
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Speaker 1: not confess to playing a role in this murder. And
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Speaker 1: so this was why police on this day had decided
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Speaker 1: to go another route to get information out of Eda.
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Speaker 1: That woman in her forties who had just walked into
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Speaker 1: Eda's jail cell was pretending to be an inmate, but
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Speaker 1: in reality she was an undercover cop and her job
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Speaker 1: was to go into this jail cell, befriend Ata, win
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Speaker 1: her trust, and see if maybe then Eda would begin
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Speaker 1: revealing information about what she had done. And so after
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Speaker 1: this undercover cop walked into the jail cell. The jailer
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Speaker 1: shut the door behind them, closing in the undercover cop
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Speaker 1: and Eta. And at this point Eda was woken up
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Speaker 1: by the noise and she sat up on her bench
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Speaker 1: and she looked over at the undercover cop and the
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Speaker 1: cop you know, she was immediately struck by Eda's appearance.
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Speaker 1: Edda did not look like a murderer. She was this little, slight,
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Speaker 1: totally unthreatening person who really just looked like a suburban
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Speaker 1: mom who maybe had a white collar job. But the
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Speaker 1: undercover cop also knew that appearing to be totally harmless
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Speaker 1: was a great cover for being a murderer, and so
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Speaker 1: this could all totally be an act. And also to
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Speaker 1: this undercover cop, it just seemed like Eda was way
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Speaker 1: too calm and collected given her circumstances. She is effectively
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Speaker 1: wanted for murder and the police are putting so much
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Speaker 1: pressure on her to get her to speak about it,
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Speaker 1: and she's just laying down sleeping in her cell, making
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Speaker 1: no big deal about it. But the undercover cop maintained
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Speaker 1: a very neutral persona and she sat down and at
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Speaker 1: some point she asked Eda, you know, hey, what are
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Speaker 1: you in here for? And Eda you know, she kind
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Speaker 1: of just looked down and smiled for a second, and
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Speaker 1: then when she looks back up at the undercover cop,
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Speaker 1: she said, you know, you're never gonna believe me. The
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Speaker 1: undercover cop at this said, oh, come on, how bad
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Speaker 1: could it be? You know, tell me, tell me what's
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Speaker 1: going on here? Why are you in here? And it
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Speaker 1: was at this point that Eda would say something that
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Speaker 1: nearly caused the cop to break character, because Eda she
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Speaker 1: would say, well, I'm pretty sure this is going to
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Speaker 1: be a movie now. The undercover police officer tried to
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Speaker 1: be as neutral as possible as she's hearing this, but
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Speaker 1: in her mind she's like, okay, well, I clearly just
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Speaker 1: discovered Eda's motive for being involved in this murder. Edda
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Speaker 1: wants to be famous. She wants this maid into a
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Speaker 1: movie where she's the star. At the same time this
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Speaker 1: conversation was happening in an office within the jailhouse, a
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Speaker 1: police captain was listening in on the conversation between Eda
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Speaker 1: and this undercover cop, and when he listened to Ata
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Speaker 1: talk about wanting to turn her story into a movie,
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Speaker 1: he just shook his head in disgust because Edda had
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Speaker 1: just brought police to the location of the body of
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Speaker 1: thirty one year old Melanie Eureba, a local nurse who
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Speaker 1: was robbed and savagely beaten to death and then dumped
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Speaker 1: in a canyon behind a bush and now here Eda
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Speaker 1: was talking about how she could get publicity around this terrible,
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Speaker 1: horrible crime. It just did not sit right with the captain.
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Speaker 1: And so as the captain was sitting there kind of
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Speaker 1: watching this conversation transpire between the undercover cop and Ata,
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Speaker 1: the captain was beginning to form a theory of what
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Speaker 1: actually happened to Melanie Eureba and how Edda played a
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Speaker 1: role in her murder. His theory went like this. Six
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Speaker 1: days earlier, the victim, Melanie Eurebe, had left for her
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Speaker 1: shift at the hospital in Burbank, California, which is a
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Speaker 1: suburb of Los Angeles, but she had never arrived for
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Speaker 1: her shift, and so when her colleagues had noticed her absence,
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Speaker 1: eventually the police were called and a search was launched
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Speaker 1: to find her. But after forty eight hours, the police
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Speaker 1: had not found Melanie and there were no signs as
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Speaker 1: to what happened to her. She had just vanished. And
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Speaker 1: it was at that point two days after Melanie had
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Speaker 1: gone missing. That Eda just showed up at the police
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Speaker 1: station and said she knew where Melanie was. And so
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Speaker 1: the detective who was talking to Eda at the time
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Speaker 1: when she came in and said this, he brought out
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Speaker 1: a map and he said, okay, point to where she is.
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Speaker 1: And Eda had immediately pointed to this area on the
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Speaker 1: map called Lopez Canyon, which was about twenty five miles
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Speaker 1: away from Los Angeles, and she would tell the detective that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Melanie is somewhere right and there. When the detective asked, Eda,
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Speaker 1: you know, how do you know this, Eda would say
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Speaker 1: she just knew. And then when the detective followed up
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Speaker 1: and said, you know, Eda, this is pretty incriminating that
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Speaker 1: you're telling me you know where someone's body is. You
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Speaker 1: know what's motivating you to come and say this to me?
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Speaker 1: And Da would say that her conscience was weighing on
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Speaker 1: her terribly and she just had to go to police. Now,
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Speaker 1: the detective who talked to Eda when she first came
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Speaker 1: into the police station really didn't know what to make
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Speaker 1: of Eda because she looked so unthreatening and what she
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Speaker 1: was saying, you know, she was saying with a lot
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Speaker 1: of confidence, and it seemed like she was really eager
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Speaker 1: to help the investigation versus just clearing her conscience, which
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Speaker 1: is kind of what she said she was doing. And
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Speaker 1: when the detective looked in to who Eda was, he
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Speaker 1: discovered that she had a great job. She worked at
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Speaker 1: an aerospace company in Burbank, California, and she even had
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Speaker 1: governmental clearance. And so this woman clearly has been vetted
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Speaker 1: by the government and by high level companies and she's
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Speaker 1: passed the tests. But at the same time, the detective
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Speaker 1: knew there was no good reason for why Eda would
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Speaker 1: have this information the location of a dead body. I mean,
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Speaker 1: either she's just wrong there is no body there, or
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Speaker 1: if the body's there, the most likely scenario is that
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Speaker 1: Eda was involved in killing this person or disposing of
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Speaker 1: their body, or maybe both. So the detective said to Eda,
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, come back tomorrow and we'll take a
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Speaker 1: police helicopter. We'll fly out over that canyon and we'll
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Speaker 1: see if we can find Melanie's body together, and so
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Speaker 1: Eda said, okay, sounds good. She turned and she left.
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Speaker 1: But then just an hour later, Eda came back into
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Speaker 1: the police station with her two young kids in the car,
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Speaker 1: and she would tell that detective that she actually just
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Speaker 1: drove out with her kids to that canyon and had
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Speaker 1: found Melanie's body. In fact, she told the detective that
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Speaker 1: her seven year old child, who was in the car
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Speaker 1: right now, had been the one to actually find Melanie's body.
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Speaker 1: The detective could not believe this woman one had gone
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Speaker 1: out by herself to do this, but two had brought
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Speaker 1: along her kids as well. Like, what's going on with
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Speaker 1: this person? But regardless of how weird this was, the
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Speaker 1: detective immediately rounded up some back up and with Eda's help,
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Speaker 1: they went out to a particular spot in this canyon,
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Speaker 1: and sure enough, when they got out there, right in
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Speaker 1: the spot where Eda said it would be was Melanie's
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Speaker 1: badly beaten body. And so it was at this point
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Speaker 1: that the police captain had grabbed Eda and said, you're
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Speaker 1: under arrest. I'm putting you in a cell because there's
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Speaker 1: no way you could have known about this unless you
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Speaker 1: were somehow involved. The captain thought, by putting Eda in
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Speaker 1: jail for a couple of days, you know, she'd get
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Speaker 1: scared and start talking. But four days had gone by
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Speaker 1: and Eda had not cracked. She had not given up
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Speaker 1: anything beyond telling the undercover police officer that she thought
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Speaker 1: her story that was kind of still developing, would likely
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Speaker 1: be turned into a movie, and so the captain really
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Speaker 1: didn't know what to do because at this point, you know,
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Speaker 1: Eda had not actually committed a crime. It was not
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Speaker 1: a crime to find a dead person's body and report
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Speaker 1: it to the police, and there was no evidence that
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Speaker 1: actually tied Eda to the murder. All the police had
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Speaker 1: was the fact that Eda came to them and told
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Speaker 1: them that she knew where the body was, and they
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Speaker 1: actually found the body. But that's all they had. But
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Speaker 1: the police captain would catch a break on that fourth
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Speaker 1: day because he would receive a phone call that would
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Speaker 1: totally change everything about this case. It would turn out
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Speaker 1: on December seventeenth, nineteen eighty three, so the same day
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Speaker 1: that Eda would go into the police station to report
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Speaker 1: that she knew where Melanieu Rebae's body was. Well, on
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Speaker 1: that day, Da was at work, listening to the radio
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Speaker 1: and filing some paperwork, and as Eda listened to the radio,
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Speaker 1: the local newscaster was talking about Melanie Eribay and how
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Speaker 1: she was missing, and the newscaster talked about how police
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Speaker 1: had found her truck and it was parked on this
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Speaker 1: dead end street and that police were searching nearby residences
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Speaker 1: to see if maybe they knew what happened to Melanie,
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Speaker 1: but as of right now, there really was no new leads.
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Speaker 1: They did not know where Melanie was. And it was
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Speaker 1: right around this point that Eda's listening to the news
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Speaker 1: about Melanie that Eda heard a voice in the room
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Speaker 1: she was in and the boy said very clearly to Eda,
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Speaker 1: She's not in one of those houses. And Edda immediately
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Speaker 1: when she heard it, she turned around wondering who the
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Speaker 1: heck was in here? You know, who's talking to her?
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Speaker 1: But there was nobody else in the room. And then
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Speaker 1: it was like, immediately there were these flashes of images
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Speaker 1: in Eda's brain that she had no idea what they meant,
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Speaker 1: but it was a succession of a dirt road and
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Speaker 1: then a bush, and then something white, a nurse's shoe,
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Speaker 1: and Eda very clearly saw these three images. And it
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Speaker 1: was right then that Eda thought, oh my god, I
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Speaker 1: know where Melanie Rebay is. And so she sat there
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Speaker 1: wondering what to do, and then finally thought, I have
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Speaker 1: to go to police, as crazy as this sounds, and
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Speaker 1: so she hopped in the car and she drove to
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Speaker 1: the police station, and she said, I don't know how,
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Speaker 1: but I do know Melanie Eurebe is right there in
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Speaker 1: that canyon. But when the police had said come back
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll go out and look for her, Da
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Speaker 1: just couldn't wait. And so she had gone with her kids,
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Speaker 1: driven out to the canyon that she had seen in
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Speaker 1: her mind. And sure enough, when she got out there,
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Speaker 1: she found the dirt road that she had seen. Then
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Speaker 1: she found the bush that she had seen, and then
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Speaker 1: with the help of her kids, they found the white
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Speaker 1: nurse shoe and it was right near Melanie's body, which
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Speaker 1: meant that voice that Eda heard and the vision she
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Speaker 1: had had all been real. The phone call that the
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Speaker 1: police captain received on the fourth day that Edda was
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Speaker 1: sitting in jail and talking to the undercover cop, you know,
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Speaker 1: the phone call that changed the whole case. Well, the
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Speaker 1: phone call was from another police officer saying they had
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Speaker 1: just arrested three men who were caught bragging about beating
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Speaker 1: and killing Melanie Rebay, and they had confessed and they
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Speaker 1: were now being held in jail. And so clearly Eda
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Speaker 1: did not commit this murder. And so even though it
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Speaker 1: made no sense that she just knew where this body was.
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Speaker 1: The police had to release Da the same day, so
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Speaker 1: she was released, and then ultimately the three men who
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Speaker 1: confessed to killing Melanie Rebay they would be found guilty
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Speaker 1: and they would each be sentenced to life in prison.
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Speaker 1: Six years later, Eda would sue the police department, and
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Speaker 1: she would win the lawsuit because the jury on that
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Speaker 1: case absolutely believed that Eda really did have a psychic
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Speaker 1: vision that led to the discovery of Melanie's body. Eda
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Speaker 1: would never go on to make a movie about her story,
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Speaker 1: and in fact, when she was asked later on about
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Speaker 1: why she said that during her conversations with that undercover cop,
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Speaker 1: Eda would clarify that she didn't say that she wanted
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Speaker 1: to make a movie, but rather she said to the
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Speaker 1: undercover cop something to the effect of, you know, it
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Speaker 1: feels like I'm living out a bad movie. And so
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Speaker 1: that was kind of misconstrued by police into her saying
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Speaker 1: I want to make a movie about this. She didn't
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Speaker 1: has sought out any fame or recognition for what happened.
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Speaker 1: so far. Back to the stories. On the night of
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Speaker 1: November seventh, eighteen sixty, a fifty one year old American
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Speaker 1: politician walked inside of his modest, two story home in Springfield, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: This politician was totally exhausted, but he was also really
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Speaker 1: happy because in his hand he had a telegram that
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Speaker 1: confirmed he had won an election that he had worked
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Speaker 1: so hard for and he wasn't sure he was going
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Speaker 1: to get and so earlier that night, this politician had
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Speaker 1: been out basically partying and celebrating this huge victory, But
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Speaker 1: now he was totally beat and ready for bed. Once
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Speaker 1: the politician was inside his house, he picked up an
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Speaker 1: oil lamp to light the way, and he walked through
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Speaker 1: his house to his study, where he put the lamp
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Speaker 1: down on his desk. He put the telegram saying he
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Speaker 1: had won this election next to the lamp, and then
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Speaker 1: the politician just collapsed into his sofa to fall asleep.
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Speaker 1: But before he closed his eyes, this politician looked over
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Speaker 1: at a mirror on the wall, and what he saw
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Speaker 1: in the mirror made him gasp, and he sat upright
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Speaker 1: and looked at it like he couldn't believe what he
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Speaker 1: was seeing. In this mirror, this politician was seeing his
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Speaker 1: own face reflected as it should be, but then next
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Speaker 1: to it was another face, and it was not his.
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Speaker 1: It kind of looked like him, but it actually looked
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Speaker 1: more like a corpse, like a dead person was looking
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Speaker 1: out at him from this mirror. And so the politician
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Speaker 1: he stood up and began walking over to the mirror
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Speaker 1: to get a closer look. But as he got closer,
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Speaker 1: the dead person's face disappeared and all was left was
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Speaker 1: his own reflection. And so he's like, okay, I must
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Speaker 1: have been dreaming that, you know that can't have been real.
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Speaker 1: And so, feeling very unsettled, this politician just went back
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Speaker 1: over to the couch and he laid back down, thinking, okay,
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Speaker 1: just forget about that, go to sleep. But again he
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Speaker 1: glanced over at the mirror, and now that he was
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Speaker 1: laying down again, he saw the two faces again, his
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Speaker 1: own and this dead person's face. And at this point
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Speaker 1: he stood up and rushed out of the room into
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Speaker 1: his bedroom where his wife was. Now, his wife was
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Speaker 1: a very devoted spiritualist, and so the politician thought maybe
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Speaker 1: he could tell her about what he saw in the
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Speaker 1: mirror and she could interpret it and tell him what
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Speaker 1: it meant. And so he sat down and he told
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Speaker 1: his wife about what he had just seen. And she
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Speaker 1: would sit there for a minute pondering what her husband
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Speaker 1: had just said, and then her expression on her face
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Speaker 1: just totally changed. She went from intrigued to very upset,
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Speaker 1: and in a quivering voice, she would tell her husband
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Speaker 1: that what this meant was he would serve honorably in
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Speaker 1: the office that he had just been elected to for
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Speaker 1: one term. He would get re elected, but he would
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Speaker 1: not survive the second term. Now, when the politician heard this,
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Speaker 1: he immediately rejected it, and he said to his wife,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's no way that's true. You know, I
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Speaker 1: probably didn't even see a face in the mirror. I'm
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Speaker 1: probably just so tired I amadine and what I saw,
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Speaker 1: So let's just forget about it. But his wife was
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Speaker 1: not consoled, and she fell into his arms, sobbing, as
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Speaker 1: if he had just been diagnosed with some fatal illness.
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Speaker 1: And over the next several days and weeks and months,
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Speaker 1: this politician's wife continued to be so upset about this
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Speaker 1: potential death omen that the politician had apparently had, even
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Speaker 1: though again the politician is constantly telling his wife, come on, like,
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Speaker 1: there's no way that's actually going to happen. And sure enough,
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Speaker 1: over time, the politician's wife did sort of stop being
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Speaker 1: so scared all the time that her husband was going
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Speaker 1: to die, and the politician himself he just kind of
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Speaker 1: forgot about what he had seen in the mirror that night,
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Speaker 1: and so he would go on to serve his first
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Speaker 1: term in this elected office, he would be re elected
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Speaker 1: for a second term, and then during his second term,
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Speaker 1: on April fourteenth, eighteen sixty five, this politician and his
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Speaker 1: wife were out at a play in Washington, d C.
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Speaker 1: And during the last act of the play, a man
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Speaker 1: named John Wilkes Booth famously snuck up behind Abraham Lincoln,
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Speaker 1: who was this elected politician. He was the President of
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Speaker 1: the United States in his second term, and John Wilkes
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Speaker 1: Booth shot Abraham Lincoln in the back of the head,
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Speaker 1: killing him, and so Abraham Lincoln would indeed not survive
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Speaker 1: his second term, just like the mirror death Omen had predicted.
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Speaker 1: On April first, nineteen eighty four, a twenty eight year
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Speaker 1: old man named James seven Yer opened his eyes and
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Speaker 1: looked down and saw his whole body was covered in snow,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of that snow had turned red from
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Speaker 1: what looked like blood. James tried to take a breath in,
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Speaker 1: but as soon as he did, his chest exploded in pain.
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Speaker 1: Then James began moving his tongue around in his mouth,
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Speaker 1: and he realized there was this weird substance in his mouth,
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Speaker 1: and there were all these sharp objects in his mouth,
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Speaker 1: and so when he spit, he realized what it was.
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Speaker 1: It was blood and shattered teeth. James began to play
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Speaker 1: and tried to lift up one of his arms, but
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't move, and then when he tried to move
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Speaker 1: his other arm. It did move, but that little movement
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Speaker 1: hurts so bad he began crying in pain. So James
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Speaker 1: has no idea what it came from. He's looking around
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Speaker 1: and he can barely understand where he is or what happened.
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Speaker 1: But then James looked up kind of right behind him,
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Speaker 1: and he saw this enormous snow covered mountain. Now James
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Speaker 1: had no idea what mountain this was, but in his
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Speaker 1: head he thought, you know, I must have attempted to
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Speaker 1: climb that mountain. James was a self described climbing bomb,
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Speaker 1: which really just meant he lived out of his car
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Speaker 1: most of the time and traveled all around the world
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Speaker 1: seeking out the most dangerous mountains in the world for
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Speaker 1: him to climb. And so as James was racking his
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Speaker 1: brain trying to remember what happened, suddenly it all just
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Speaker 1: came flooding back. He remembered he was here in the
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Speaker 1: Canadian Rockies with his best friend, Richard Whitmore, and the
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Speaker 1: two of them had attempted to climb this particular mountain.
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Speaker 1: It was an eleven thousand foot tall mountain called mountain
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Speaker 1: making their way up this mountain, they were hit by
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Speaker 1: an avalanche. Now James didn't really remember what happened that
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Speaker 1: once the avalanche hit them, but it would turn out
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Speaker 1: he had fallen, along with his friend Richard, about one
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty stories as this avalanche carried them down
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Speaker 1: the mountain. For reference, that's taller than the Empire State Building.
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Speaker 1: So this is a massive fault. And so as James
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Speaker 1: is remembering that avalanche, he began looking around frantically for
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Speaker 1: his friend Richard, hoping that maybe he was okay and
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Speaker 1: nearby and they could work together to get out of
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Speaker 1: this situation. And sure enough, at some point James looked
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Speaker 1: over and he saw there was a crumpled figure kind
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Speaker 1: of lying in the snow that obviously was another person.
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Speaker 1: And so James instinctively tried to sit up to go
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Speaker 1: over to his friend. But as soon as he attempted
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Speaker 1: to do that, he felt the blinding pain in his body.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he is totally wrecked here and he couldn't
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Speaker 1: stand up. But James really wanted to go see his friend,
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Speaker 1: so he kind of rolled over and through the pain.
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Speaker 1: Using his one good up, he crawled his way over
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Speaker 1: to Richard, and for a second he thought maybe his
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Speaker 1: friend was alive, that he too had survived this epic fall.
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Speaker 1: But as he looked down at Richard, he could see
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Speaker 1: his chest was not moving and his neck was twisted
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Speaker 1: really badly, and so was his back, and so James
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Speaker 1: knew his friend Richard was dead. And so James just
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Speaker 1: collapsed into the snow, feeling unbelievable anguish and sadness and fear.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the only other person out here.
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Speaker 1: They are nowhere near civilization, and it's going to be
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Speaker 1: at least four days before anybody even notices that they
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Speaker 1: aren't back yet, because that was when James and Richard
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Speaker 1: were supposed to be home. And now James is thinking like,
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Speaker 1: I can't even stand up, I can barely breathe, I'm
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Speaker 1: so badly hurt. What am I going to do? And
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly James adopted the mindset of unfortunately, you're going
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Speaker 1: to die here. And this was something James had always
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Speaker 1: thought would happen to him eventually, that a mountain would
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Speaker 1: end up killing him, and here he was realizing that, yep,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what's about to happen. I'm going to die
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Speaker 1: out here, and so James just kind to lay there,
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Speaker 1: resigned to his fate, literally waiting to die. And after
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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, when his body began to go numb
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Speaker 1: and he was starting to enter into hypothermia, James heard
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Speaker 1: a voice from behind him. It was this woman who
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Speaker 1: walked right up to him, and she said, you can't
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Speaker 1: give up. You have to try. And James, even though
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Speaker 1: he was totally caught off guard that there was another
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Speaker 1: person out here, there was something so calming about this
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Speaker 1: woman and the way she was talking to him that
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Speaker 1: without any hesitation, it was like James's whole mindset about
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Speaker 1: this situation completely changed. Suddenly, he was not ready to
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Speaker 1: give up and die, but now because of this woman,
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Speaker 1: he was going to fight to survive. And so after
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Speaker 1: kind of moving around and looking back towards this woman,
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Speaker 1: she would say to him, put your coat on. And
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Speaker 1: so James, despite the excruciating pain, used his one arm
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Speaker 1: that still worked and kind of propped himself up, and
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Speaker 1: then he pulled his coat out of his pack which
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Speaker 1: was lying near him, and very painfully, he slipped his
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Speaker 1: coat over his broken and damaged arms, and then once
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Speaker 1: the coat was on him, the woman said to James,
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Speaker 1: any hesitation, he reached over and grabbed his water. He
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Speaker 1: unscrewed the top and took a sip, despite how painful
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Speaker 1: it was to sip, even though the water stung his
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Speaker 1: totally shattered mouth. And then after James put the water down,
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Speaker 1: the woman very calmly told him, okay, now disconnect yourself
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Speaker 1: from Richard's body and then use the tree right here
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Speaker 1: to pull yourself up. And so he untied from Richard,
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Speaker 1: and then using his one good arm, he grabbed the
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Speaker 1: tree and he managed to hoist himself up onto his
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Speaker 1: totally destroyed legs. And he couldn't believe he was even
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Speaker 1: standing at this point, but here he was up on
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Speaker 1: his feet. And then the woman said, okay, it's time
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Speaker 1: to move, and so James began walking away from the mountain,
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Speaker 1: and this woman just followed along behind him. And for
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Speaker 1: a long time he trudged through this knee high snow,
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Speaker 1: barely able to take a step without this blinding pain
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Speaker 1: coursing through his body. But every time he began to
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Speaker 1: stumble or slow down or seemed like he was going
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Speaker 1: to give up, the woman would very calmly urge him
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Speaker 1: to keep going, going, keep moving, and finally, after about
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Speaker 1: four hours of this horribly painful trek, James was on
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Speaker 1: He came upon the camp that he and his friend
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Speaker 1: Richard had built before coming over to this mountain to
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Speaker 1: begin this climb, and so James quickly began moving towards
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Speaker 1: his tent that was still pitched that he knew inside
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Speaker 1: had a warm sleeping bag and some water and food,
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Speaker 1: and so as he made his way towards the tent,
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Speaker 1: he stopped himself and he turned around to talk to
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Speaker 1: his guide to thank her for pushing him onward. But
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Speaker 1: when he turned there was no one there, and when
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Speaker 1: he looked at the ground, there was only one set
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Speaker 1: of bloody footprints that were his, leading all the way
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Speaker 1: back to where he had fallen. This guide, this woman,
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Speaker 1: she didn't exist. James was totally unsettled by this and
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Speaker 1: really didn't know what to do about it, but he
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Speaker 1: knew right now the priority was just to survive, and
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Speaker 1: so he made his way over to his tent and
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Speaker 1: he attempted to get inside a bit, but his hands
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Speaker 1: were so cold and so badly beaten up that he
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Speaker 1: couldn't use the zipper, he couldn't even get it open.
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Speaker 1: And then finally when he managed to use a tool
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Speaker 1: to get it open, he couldn't open up his sleeping bag.
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Speaker 1: It was like his body was shutting down. And so
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Speaker 1: we thought, okay, I'll make a fire and that will
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Speaker 1: be enough to keep me warm. But again it's like
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Speaker 1: his body was failing him and he couldn't do it.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't start the fire. And so right as James
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Speaker 1: is realizing that, you know, despite making it to this campsite,
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Speaker 1: he may not be able to survive because he can't
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Speaker 1: use the campsite, he began to hear voices. Right away,
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Speaker 1: James is worried that the voices he's hearing don't really
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Speaker 1: exist like this woman he had seen. But sure enough,
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Speaker 1: just a second later, three skiers came around the corner
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Speaker 1: and they saw James, and amazingly, one of them was
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Speaker 1: a very experienced mountain guide and another one of them
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Speaker 1: was a nurse, and so right away when they saw James,
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Speaker 1: they saw he was dying. The nurse rushed over. She
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Speaker 1: made a fire for him, she got him comfortable, she
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Speaker 1: put on warm clothes and the mountain guide. He took
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Speaker 1: off to go get help, and sure enough, a couple
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Speaker 1: hours later, a helicopter arrived and they airlifted James out
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Speaker 1: and he would make a full recovery. However, it would
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Speaker 1: take James year before he finally opened up about this
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Speaker 1: mysterious vanishing woman who literally saved his life. Without her
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Speaker 1: talking to him and urging him to go, he would
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Speaker 1: allayed there next to his friend and died. But James
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Speaker 1: he was afraid to bring up that he had seen
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Speaker 1: this woman and fear that people would think he was crazy.
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Speaker 1: But when he finally brought it up, he would quickly
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Speaker 1: learn that he was far from the first person to
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Speaker 1: experience this phenomenon of having this invisible person help you.
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Speaker 1: In fact, this phenomenon is common enough that it has
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Speaker 1: its own name. It's called the third Man effect. The
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Speaker 1: third man refers to this mysterious vanishing person that steps
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Speaker 1: in and helps people survive who have just undergone some
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Speaker 1: which direction to go until he escaped. And so whether
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Speaker 1: who was both an atheist and a scientist, says he
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Speaker 1: does not believe that this woman who saved him was
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