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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Steffon Never
- 0:07Speaker 1: Told You production of iHeartRadio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: You know, it's been a minute since we've talked about
- 0:22Speaker 2: legendary female feminine beings. So we wanted to take a
- 0:27Speaker 2: look at goddesses around the world and celebrate the power
- 0:31Speaker 2: they bring. Okay, and as a preface, I feel like
- 0:34Speaker 2: we have to do these, especially when we try to
- 0:36Speaker 2: do international levels of things and we're talking about legendary people,
- 0:41Speaker 2: slash things that may have disappeared from history and are
- 0:43Speaker 2: now coming back, stuff like that. But with that, we
- 0:47Speaker 2: are bringing a short list of goddesses, even though this
- 0:49Speaker 2: is probably going to be a full hour, if not longer.
- 0:53Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of information, but they're all
- 0:56Speaker 2: around the world, but from all around the world. As
- 0:57Speaker 2: I said, it's international, and we're categorizing them by regions.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Of course, that means we haven't even scratched the surface
- 1:06Speaker 2: of the amount of deities that exists. So if you
- 1:09Speaker 2: have one that you would love to talk about, or
- 1:12Speaker 2: you wish we had talked about, or we didn't give
- 1:14Speaker 2: enough detail about the ones that you love, please let
- 1:17Speaker 2: us know and we'll add that as another edition. We'll
- 1:20Speaker 2: do this as a listener, male favorite Goddesses, you know
- 1:23Speaker 2: we'll do that. Look, I've already titled it for you,
- 1:25Speaker 2: because you know, we love a series and I, like
- 1:27Speaker 2: I said, this is a pretty large outline, not the
- 1:31Speaker 2: largest that I've done, and obviously, as you know, we
- 1:34Speaker 2: love a series. I try to condence this to one,
- 1:37Speaker 2: but picking them out was difficult. Also when it comes
- 1:42Speaker 2: to doing international episodes, we try our best to be
- 1:47Speaker 2: accurate in our pronunciations, but sometimes and oftentimes not, Sometimes
- 1:52Speaker 2: we have a hard time getting those actual pronunciations.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Y'all.
- 1:57Speaker 2: It took two hours alone just to find pronunciations, so
- 2:01Speaker 2: we tried our damnedest. I still have a Southern accent,
- 2:04Speaker 2: as you can tell. So with that Southern accent, we're
- 2:07Speaker 2: going to try our best. Some of these don't exist.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Some of the pronunciations do not exist, and as we've
- 2:12Speaker 2: talked about previously with guests on our show, especially when
- 2:15Speaker 2: it comes to indigenous first Native peoples, colonizers really try
- 2:18Speaker 2: to eradicate those languages, so for even them, they're having
- 2:22Speaker 2: to relearn.
- 2:23Speaker 3: So just bear with us.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And I do say that because in our North American Goddesses,
- 2:27Speaker 2: we're lacking we're lacking a lot of information. And when
- 2:31Speaker 2: it comes to ancient deities around the world, the history
- 2:33Speaker 2: is long and deep, and some of them are very
- 2:35Speaker 2: much still believed in and still practiced so as they
- 2:39Speaker 2: provide comfort and our backstory and sometimes just answers that
- 2:42Speaker 2: people are starting more beyond what they can see. So
- 2:45Speaker 2: when we're talking about this, we're talking about it historically
- 2:47Speaker 2: and as legends essentially, and we want to respect the
- 2:52Speaker 2: beliefs as well as take time to learn about them.
- 2:55Speaker 2: So if you have personal history personal beliefs in this,
- 2:59Speaker 2: please let us know. We would love to hear about it. Also,
- 3:02Speaker 2: I feel like I'm putting in a lot of caveats
- 3:04Speaker 2: as always, we recognize the heavy influences of colonization as
- 3:08Speaker 2: well as colonization is trying to eradicate some of these
- 3:12Speaker 2: beliefs a little missionaries blah blah blah blah, and how
- 3:15Speaker 2: that has affected the beautiful legends and traditions of different cultures.
- 3:18Speaker 2: And yes, as we said earlier, some of them are
- 3:21Speaker 2: coming back and I love this and some of them
- 3:22Speaker 2: being rediscovered, and through the many who keep these legends
- 3:25Speaker 2: alive through their storytelling, we are still able to learn
- 3:28Speaker 2: about them and are very thankful that people have been
- 3:31Speaker 2: able to preserve the richness of these legacies. One of
- 3:34Speaker 2: the resources that you will hear us talk about often
- 3:36Speaker 2: is mythlock dot com. So thank you mythlock because they
- 3:39Speaker 2: had a lot of information which I was able to
- 3:41Speaker 2: get more research through.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Them, So shout out to them.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Hey.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Oh, and as it goes when it comes to religion
- 3:47Speaker 2: or mysticism, there's a lot of overlap.
- 3:49Speaker 3: So some of these.
- 3:50Speaker 2: May sound familiar, they just have different names because different
- 3:53Speaker 2: regions call them something different. But we still want to
- 3:56Speaker 2: talk about them, So forgive us if we're being a
- 3:58Speaker 2: little bit repetitive.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's begin again.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Like we said, we were trying to keep it a
- 4:04Speaker 2: little more organized, so we're keeping it regionally and we're
- 4:07Speaker 2: going to start off with Asia. Yeah, the entire area
- 4:10Speaker 2: of Asia. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, right,
- 4:14Speaker 2: and getting those just snippets of those, because I didn't
- 4:17Speaker 2: even jump into like the bigger nomees. We're trying to
- 4:20Speaker 2: find lesser nones also, but that is a caveat. So
- 4:25Speaker 2: when it comes to religions and deities of the Asian region,
- 4:27Speaker 2: the history is rich and diverse or that we're talking
- 4:29Speaker 2: about Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, or even folk. The depth of
- 4:33Speaker 2: mysticism and tradition surrounding these religions have given a rich
- 4:36Speaker 2: history of legends to talk about. But for now, we're
- 4:38Speaker 2: going to talk about these four and I'm going to
- 4:40Speaker 2: talk about about Harmony, which she is known as the
- 4:43Speaker 2: Korean water Goddess, like the actual translation, it's like the
- 4:46Speaker 2: water grandmother, I think, who has the power of healing,
- 4:50Speaker 2: especially for the physical and spiritual eye literally called on
- 4:54Speaker 2: for any ailments having to do with the eyes.
- 4:57Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, that's very very specific.
- 5:00Speaker 2: According to legend, she is also the goddess of women,
- 5:03Speaker 2: healers and shamans, and controls visibility of the third eye
- 5:07Speaker 2: and can remove the veil from the third eye for
- 5:10Speaker 2: any priestess who requests to take it off. So you know,
- 5:14Speaker 2: if you're trying to find that power, apparently she's a
- 5:16Speaker 2: good one to go to. And then we have a
- 5:19Speaker 2: Pani Bolignian, the Sunbride. Filipino listeners are there, let me
- 5:26Speaker 2: know if I said, I'm pretty sure I butchered that,
- 5:27Speaker 2: so let me know. So this Filipino story has been
- 5:31Speaker 2: around for some time and talks about a beautiful, magical
- 5:34Speaker 2: woman who married the Sun.
- 5:36Speaker 3: That's a theme like people who marry like.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Giant gods or deities or Sun the moon the Sun,
- 5:44Speaker 2: stuff like that. The tale was written down and compiled
- 5:48Speaker 2: with other stories in nineteen sixteen by anthropologists that Mabel
- 5:51Speaker 2: Cook Cole, who had traveled and listened to the many
- 5:54Speaker 2: lores from the Tingyan people of the Philippines. And a
- 5:58Speaker 2: quick summary from the story as told on storynore dot com.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Aponi Bolignan was taken into the sky by vine where
- 6:06Speaker 2: she discovered the home of the Sun. There she cooked
- 6:09Speaker 2: grice and fish for him, and which began their love story.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Soon she and the Sun return to the Earth, where
- 6:15Speaker 2: they would reside together with their people. Of course, the
- 6:19Speaker 2: story is much more laid out, so if you want
- 6:22Speaker 2: to go check it out at storynoor dot com, you should.
- 6:25Speaker 2: But it's very interesting because essentially she travels to him,
- 6:28Speaker 2: they get together, they have this misunderstanding. She melts because
- 6:31Speaker 2: he takes her to the Sun and then she comes
- 6:34Speaker 2: back as a puddle, but then she gets remade as
- 6:35Speaker 2: human on Earth. It's a pretty fascinating story. But because
- 6:39Speaker 2: of them, they.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Live happily, yeah, ever after for the village.
- 6:42Speaker 2: But then there's like a variation where she cheats on
- 6:44Speaker 2: him or she gets like or she gets cast out
- 6:47Speaker 2: by him and another character comes in. I'm not going there,
- 6:50Speaker 2: but just go check it out. I feel like all
- 6:52Speaker 2: these stories have so much more that you're like, what what.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Okay?
- 6:57Speaker 2: And so this one is a Cambodian vietname goddess, and
- 7:01Speaker 2: y'all I could not find the actual pronunciation. I'm sorry.
- 7:05Speaker 2: If y'all know the correct one again, let me know.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Poeeno Nogar is a Cambodian Vietnamese polyandrous goddess known as
- 7:13Speaker 2: a Great One, and according to the blog title Journeying
- 7:16Speaker 2: to the Goddess, the agricultural goddess name means simply great
- 7:20Speaker 2: one in Cambodia, likely to do to the fact that
- 7:23Speaker 2: she brings fertility to the earth and its people. It
- 7:26Speaker 2: is her duty to protect the fills and harvest. Epics
- 7:30Speaker 2: sometimes symbolize Poeto Nogar as a gentle rain because local
- 7:34Speaker 2: myths claim that she was born in the clouds and
- 7:36Speaker 2: still controls the water's generative gift to the land and.
- 7:39Speaker 3: To our souls.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And again this is kind of a big theme as
- 7:42Speaker 2: well about being the goddess of water, the land and harvest,
- 7:47Speaker 2: So renewal is definitely a big thing theme that you're
- 7:50Speaker 2: going to hear throughout. I found that fascinated because of
- 7:53Speaker 2: so many tales about like water creatures that are created
- 7:55Speaker 2: by goddesses, or specific foods and specific crops for different peoples,
- 8:03Speaker 2: and it was all goddesses, So that's saying a lot.
- 8:06Speaker 2: It's both one of those like yes, the nurturer, but
- 8:09Speaker 2: the provider as well.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I found fascinating.
- 8:13Speaker 2: So we have Tara, the Star who leads across, and
- 8:16Speaker 2: she exists across Hinduism, Jadism and Tantric Buddhism and is
- 8:20Speaker 2: known as the Savior Goddess or Savior Us. She is
- 8:23Speaker 2: beloved and looked to for protection spiritually and physically. According
- 8:27Speaker 2: to some legends, just whispering her name can bring peace
- 8:30Speaker 2: and dispel any danger. She is the embodiment of perfect
- 8:34Speaker 2: wisdom and hears a bit more about her from Sacred
- 8:37Speaker 2: Wind dot com. Tara Dolma in Tibetan means she who saves,
- 8:41Speaker 2: she who leads across, or star. She's also called Holy Mother, Tarah, green,
- 8:46Speaker 2: Tera and white goddess Tara as a manifestation of the
- 8:49Speaker 2: Divine Mother. Tara symbolizes the white flames of purity. Many
- 8:53Speaker 2: see her as a component of enlightenment, helping to transcend,
- 8:56Speaker 2: to see truth, and to purify the heart, enabling a
- 8:59Speaker 2: person to speak from the heart in a kind, gentle
- 9:02Speaker 2: and loving way.
- 9:14Speaker 1: And that brings us to Africa, which again is a
- 9:17Speaker 1: huge place. So this is just a sampling, and we're
- 9:21Speaker 1: going to start with Dia Africa, who is believed to
- 9:24Speaker 1: have been the creator of Africa, and that the different
- 9:27Speaker 1: tribes weren't African because they were from Africa, but that
- 9:30Speaker 1: they were African because they were born by Africa aka
- 9:34Speaker 1: Dia Africa. The legend states that the Supreme God sent
- 9:38Speaker 1: the goddess to watch over Africa. Here's a quote from
- 9:41Speaker 1: blog dot swallyafrica dot com. This popular goddess performed different
- 9:46Speaker 1: functions in different parts of Africa. In some parts, she
- 9:49Speaker 1: was a goddess of fertility and abundance, i e. She
- 9:52Speaker 1: is the one preyed to when the land is barren
- 9:55Speaker 1: or when a woman is unable to conceive. In Gerber
- 9:59Speaker 1: ifree or Ifru, Dia Africa is a goddess of war.
- 10:04Speaker 1: She was a god who listened to her people and
- 10:06Speaker 1: helped them whenever they were in need, which could also
- 10:09Speaker 1: lead us to the similar goddess Nana Baruku. According to
- 10:14Speaker 1: the same website, Nana Baruku is a female deity worshiped
- 10:18Speaker 1: in several West African traditional religions as the supreme being.
- 10:22Speaker 1: She is well known among the Faun people been in Dahome,
- 10:27Speaker 1: the a Khan people Ghana, and the Away people Togo,
- 10:31Speaker 1: and is popularly seen as the most influential deity in
- 10:35Speaker 1: West African theology. The goddess is the Mother's supreme Creator,
- 10:39Speaker 1: who gave birth to the Moon spirit, Sun spirit and
- 10:41Speaker 1: all of the universe itself, and soon after gave Ma Wulisa,
- 10:46Speaker 1: the secondary Creator, the responsibility for the world and all
- 10:51Speaker 1: of this is a part of modern voodoo. Here's a
- 10:54Speaker 1: bit from the collector dot com about voodoo quote. The
- 10:58Speaker 1: African elements of the religious prius are derived mainly from
- 11:01Speaker 1: the Dahome region of West Africa, modern Beanen and from
- 11:06Speaker 1: the Yaruba, Fawn and Away peoples of West Africa and
- 11:10Speaker 1: the Congo people from Central Africa. Many elements of African
- 11:14Speaker 1: spirituality continue to exist in modern voodoo in the practices
- 11:17Speaker 1: of transcendental drumming and dancing, worship of the ancestral dead,
- 11:21Speaker 1: and worship of the spirits called lobile and that brings
- 11:25Speaker 1: us to Oya. O Ya is considered one of the
- 11:29Speaker 1: most powerful goddesses. She is known as the weather goddess
- 11:32Speaker 1: or a river goddess who has the power to create
- 11:34Speaker 1: storms and much more. It is said she escorts souls
- 11:37Speaker 1: to the underworld and is associated with the afterlife. Many
- 11:41Speaker 1: say that she symbolizes the need to treasure life and
- 11:44Speaker 1: to live for the moment, and along with Oya, we
- 11:48Speaker 1: have Oshan. She is one of the most popular goddesses
- 11:51Speaker 1: and is a goddess of fertility, love and freedom. She
- 11:55Speaker 1: is also a river goddess and represents divine, feminine energy
- 11:58Speaker 1: and power. She is a part of the Yoruba religion
- 12:02Speaker 1: and many different myths exist around her. According to Britannica
- 12:06Speaker 1: dot Com quote, in most Yoruba's stories, Oshan is generally
- 12:09Speaker 1: depicted as the protector's savior or nurture of humanity. O'shan
- 12:15Speaker 1: has also been described as the maintainer of spiritual balance
- 12:18Speaker 1: or mother of sweet things. One myth highlights Oshan as
- 12:21Speaker 1: the central figure in the creation of human beings.
- 12:25Speaker 2: And next we're going to jump into the Middle Eastern goddesses.
- 12:27Speaker 2: I do want to put a little asterisk here because
- 12:31Speaker 2: there's been a lot of controversy, especially with the Trinity
- 12:34Speaker 2: of Goddesses we're about to talk about, in which as
- 12:37Speaker 2: I was reading it, the prophet Mohammed did kind of
- 12:41Speaker 2: include them and then was like trying to cast them
- 12:44Speaker 2: and saying that they're evil, and then they try to
- 12:47Speaker 2: exclude them and try to erase them from existence. They were,
- 12:51Speaker 2: according to historians, pre Islamic goddesses, so they existed beforehand.
- 12:58Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions, of course, like people are
- 13:00Speaker 2: trying to bring them back, and if you're seeing like
- 13:02Speaker 2: extremist Muslim ideology, they do not want to bring this
- 13:06Speaker 2: back obviously, So there's this back and forth. I think
- 13:08Speaker 2: this happens with any and honestly all religious beliefs that's
- 13:13Speaker 2: not centered around the most dominating religion in that area,
- 13:17Speaker 2: because I would say that about Christianity here in the
- 13:19Speaker 2: US as well.
- 13:20Speaker 3: So just put that as a capat.
- 13:22Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about, as I said, the
- 13:23Speaker 2: Trinity of goddesses. While we were researching specifically for the
- 13:27Speaker 2: goddesses of Middle East. It was immediate that these three
- 13:30Speaker 2: goddesses held a lot of importance to Arabic mythology, so
- 13:34Speaker 2: of course we wanted to share all three of them.
- 13:36Speaker 2: They are Mono, the goddess of death and fate, Alat
- 13:39Speaker 2: the goddess of agriculture, of prosperity and springtime, and Alusa
- 13:43Speaker 2: the goddess of justice, honor, and passion. And in fact,
- 13:46Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, archaeologists were able to discover some
- 13:49Speaker 2: of the artifacts that were evidence of the goddess's worship,
- 13:52Speaker 2: as they say, quote long before the rise of Islam.
- 13:55Speaker 3: And this was in an article.
- 13:56Speaker 2: During their discovery, they were able to discover remains of
- 13:59Speaker 2: the time end quote, grain structures dedicated to the goddesses,
- 14:03Speaker 2: specifically to the goddess al Usa. So there's this conversation
- 14:06Speaker 2: about what they were and who they were, and just
- 14:08Speaker 2: like at the amazing temple that was raised for her specifically,
- 14:12Speaker 2: and the fact that they were able to find it
- 14:14Speaker 2: about four years ago, three years ago intact, including the
- 14:18Speaker 2: sanctuary and the temple that was in so if y'all
- 14:21Speaker 2: want to go look it up, it's pretty cool.
- 14:23Speaker 3: They have pictures.
- 14:24Speaker 2: And then we have Ishara, also known as the Scorpion Goddess,
- 14:27Speaker 2: not to be confused with a scorpion king, y'all.
- 14:29Speaker 3: Not to be confused. I know, we just did an episode.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Of The Mummy, but you know, just saying she was
- 14:34Speaker 2: a goddess of creativity, passion, and even a sexual prowess.
- 14:37Speaker 2: She was the goddess of fire and of the scorpion,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and according to methluck dot com. In Syria, she was
- 14:42Speaker 2: worshiped in the form of a stinging and hot object
- 14:45Speaker 2: in order to improve one's passion or sexual prowess. In
- 14:48Speaker 2: other traditions, she was also known to judge people's affairs
- 14:51Speaker 2: fairly firmly. In addition to being a goddess, she was
- 14:54Speaker 2: also known to inflict severe punishments on oathbreakers. She was
- 14:59Speaker 2: regarded as a deity who acted as a healer, as
- 15:02Speaker 2: she was even referred to as a goddess of medicine.
- 15:06Speaker 2: She's just well rounded, y'all. And then we have Tiamat Or,
- 15:10Speaker 2: also known as the Primordial Goddess, and again according to mythlock,
- 15:13Speaker 2: she personifies the primordial see and is integral to the
- 15:17Speaker 2: universe's creation narrative. As a primordial goddess, Tiamat embodies the
- 15:22Speaker 2: untamed power of the ocean and the raw chaos of creation.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Feared and revered, she symbolizes both the source of life
- 15:29Speaker 2: and the destructive potential of nature. Of course, with all
- 15:32Speaker 2: her power and chaos, she also is the mother of
- 15:35Speaker 2: the first generation of gods and is able to create
- 15:38Speaker 2: monsters to start wars against them as well, and all
- 15:41Speaker 2: of this leads to the shaping and creation of the universe.
- 15:44Speaker 2: So essentially it is the creation story with monsters day.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I love it, So I guess it could be dinosaurs.
- 15:51Speaker 3: I don't know, just kidding.
- 15:53Speaker 2: And then we're going to jump into a North American goddesses,
- 15:56Speaker 2: so we are talking native or indigenous peace well, goddesses
- 16:01Speaker 2: that have existed throughout Again, as we said earlier, this
- 16:05Speaker 2: is one of those that colonization really tried to eradicate,
- 16:09Speaker 2: and those in the First Nations community have done an
- 16:14Speaker 2: amazing job in bringing back the storytelling because we know
- 16:16Speaker 2: that's existed for a long time. Again, with that, the
- 16:20Speaker 2: pronunciations I could not find for most of them, So
- 16:25Speaker 2: I'm so sorry if anybody is listening that knows these legends,
- 16:29Speaker 2: and you can send me a better pronunciation. A b
- 16:34Speaker 2: a better retelling, please do. We would love to hear it.
- 16:36Speaker 2: These are some of the most fascinating things. This is
- 16:39Speaker 2: why we're doing it. So we're jumping into Vashi, a
- 16:43Speaker 2: Choctaw nation goddess who, according to goddesschool dot com, is
- 16:47Speaker 2: the Chocktail People's moon mother goddess, appearing from nowhere and
- 16:51Speaker 2: without a mother or sister to trace her through matrilineal
- 16:53Speaker 2: lines as the people did. She came to the people
- 16:56Speaker 2: as a miracle and shared her wisdom teachings with them.
- 16:59Speaker 2: She became the first wife and offered the art of
- 17:02Speaker 2: marriage to the people. She is married to father son
- 17:06Speaker 2: and gave birth to the corn Goddess or the unknown woman,
- 17:09Speaker 2: who provided the chalked up people with the first corn seed,
- 17:12Speaker 2: which soon became a stable to them.
- 17:13Speaker 3: She is seen riding through.
- 17:15Speaker 2: The night with her beloved giant owl, and according to
- 17:18Speaker 2: the legend, she even brought song and danced to the nation.
- 17:22Speaker 3: That was very cool.
- 17:22Speaker 2: The pictures are really beautiful. And then we have oz
- 17:26Speaker 2: Pakashi or spider grandmother, which surprisingly is in a lot
- 17:31Speaker 2: of religions the spider woman or spider mother. I was like, huh, maybe,
- 17:36Speaker 2: and it's not like widow related, which I thought maybe
- 17:39Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool. So the spider grandmother known
- 17:43Speaker 2: throughout different indigenous groups and has specific ties to those
- 17:46Speaker 2: nations of the American Southwest and is known there as
- 17:49Speaker 2: the Gogin Sawati and takes on the shape of an
- 17:52Speaker 2: old woman and even sometimes a spider. She is seen
- 17:55Speaker 2: as a leader and gives wisdom and good things to
- 17:57Speaker 2: the people. In some of the tales, it is said
- 18:00Speaker 2: that she is an assistant to the god Tawa, the
- 18:03Speaker 2: son God, and she is sent out to guide different
- 18:07Speaker 2: creatures throughout the world and throughout most of the legends,
- 18:10Speaker 2: she is a constant guide, helper, and protector of different creatures,
- 18:14Speaker 2: including humans. She aids others in order to help protect
- 18:17Speaker 2: the endangered and give wisdom and knowledge for many to
- 18:20Speaker 2: complete their journeys. You know what, I'm sorry to think
- 18:23Speaker 2: Charlotte's Web may be based on Native tales.
- 18:27Speaker 3: Ooh, think about that.
- 18:29Speaker 1: We should think about that, we should look into I
- 18:32Speaker 1: haven't read Charlotte's Web since it messed me up as
- 18:35Speaker 1: a kid.
- 18:35Speaker 3: To be honest, it is horrified. Why did they write
- 18:38Speaker 3: these books?
- 18:38Speaker 2: But all have to say, I wonder if there's a
- 18:44Speaker 2: link to that because Charlotte guides the pig.
- 18:49Speaker 3: Yes.
- 18:49Speaker 1: And for listeners who don't know, Charlotte is a spider. Oh,
- 18:53Speaker 1: I hope the title would tell you that, but you
- 18:55Speaker 1: never know.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Man, are there people who don't know that book? If
- 19:00Speaker 3: that makes me super.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Sad, Samantha, I'm telling you right now, yes, wow.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Okay, well I have to go back to that that
- 19:09Speaker 2: I'm going to be traumatized just by that. Sorry, Okay,
- 19:12Speaker 2: moving on next we have again don't have the pronunciation,
- 19:15Speaker 2: but I'm trying my best. Who is, by the way,
- 19:18Speaker 2: another spider mother, Nastayistan. She is sometimes known as the
- 19:22Speaker 2: mother of monsters, as well as being the spirit of
- 19:25Speaker 2: the underworld. And here's a bit from mythologists dot com.
- 19:28Speaker 2: According to the Hopee, at the beginning of time, Nasayistan
- 19:32Speaker 2: ruled the underworld residents of the gods, while Tawa ruled
- 19:35Speaker 2: in the sky. One day she molded animals with clay,
- 19:38Speaker 2: but they remained lifeless. Then Tawa spreadish soft white blanket
- 19:42Speaker 2: over them and they began to come to life. Then
- 19:45Speaker 2: she wanted to create humanity. She made beasts from the
- 19:48Speaker 2: clay and held them close to her heart while Tawah
- 19:50Speaker 2: sang a mysterious melody with her. Then she distributed the
- 19:54Speaker 2: animals and men on Earth and gave the humans very
- 19:56Speaker 2: specific roles. The women were to watch over the house
- 19:59Speaker 2: and the we're to take care of the offerings. I'm
- 20:02Speaker 2: not sure how old that one is, but it does
- 20:04Speaker 2: have a very similar linkage to Rossi Bukashi, so it
- 20:08Speaker 2: is obviously maybe that's from a different region. She has
- 20:10Speaker 2: little more hands in on creating the creatures instead of
- 20:15Speaker 2: just leading them, so I wonder. And then lastly we
- 20:20Speaker 2: have Sedna, an Inuit goddess known as the Mother of
- 20:24Speaker 2: the Sea or Mistress of the Sea. Her story is fantastic,
- 20:28Speaker 2: and of course, like any other legends, there are a
- 20:30Speaker 2: couple of variations to the story, and honestly, Wikipedia has
- 20:33Speaker 2: some great interpretations, so won't we wanted to include a
- 20:36Speaker 2: couple of them a quote. In one legend, Sedna is
- 20:39Speaker 2: a giant, the daughter of the creator god in Guta,
- 20:42Speaker 2: with a great hunger that causes her to.
- 20:44Speaker 3: Attack her parents.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Anger and Guta takes her out to sea and throws
- 20:48Speaker 2: her over the side of his kayak. As she clings
- 20:50Speaker 2: to the side, he chops off her fingers and she
- 20:53Speaker 2: sinks to the underworld, becoming the ruler of the monsters
- 20:55Speaker 2: of the deep. Her huge fingers become the seals wallruses,
- 20:59Speaker 2: and will hunted by the Inuit. In another version of
- 21:02Speaker 2: the legend, she is dissatisfied with men found for her
- 21:06Speaker 2: by her father and so marries a dog. Her father
- 21:09Speaker 2: is so angry at this time that he throws her
- 21:11Speaker 2: into the sea, and when she tries to climb back
- 21:13Speaker 2: into the boat, he cuts off her fingers. Her fingers
- 21:16Speaker 2: become the first seals, and she becomes a mighty sea goddess.
- 21:19Speaker 2: When she is angered, the shaman travels to wash and
- 21:22Speaker 2: comb her hair for her, after which she is placated
- 21:25Speaker 2: and releases the animals to the hunters. In other versions,
- 21:28Speaker 2: she's unable to comb her hair because she lacks fingers,
- 21:30Speaker 2: so a shaman must brush it for her. So many
- 21:33Speaker 2: of these stories while of her losing her arm, her limbs,
- 21:37Speaker 2: or body parts because arms are involved, which lead to
- 21:40Speaker 2: them being left in the sea or ingested by sea creatures.
- 21:43Speaker 2: That eventually allows her to gain control of the sea
- 21:45Speaker 2: creatures and become the Mother of the Sea. I find
- 21:48Speaker 2: a fascinating one. They really have to cut things off,
- 21:50Speaker 2: but okay, you do.
- 21:51Speaker 1: A lot of these goddess stories are really intense, and
- 21:54Speaker 1: I enjoy it. Said that intense origins stories we're getting
- 22:01Speaker 1: and because.
- 22:01Speaker 2: There's summarizing, it just goes straight to the point and
- 22:03Speaker 2: you're like, what what did you just say? Oh?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. I also like we talked about this, but
- 22:10Speaker 1: we talked about Lilith. I like, how many of them
- 22:11Speaker 1: are like the mother of monsters, but it's not necessarily
- 22:15Speaker 1: a bad thing, right.
- 22:17Speaker 2: Like she just is but apparently like she may be
- 22:19Speaker 2: mother of monsters, but she allows for the people to
- 22:23Speaker 2: hunt them, which I'm like, don't don't hut sALS, don't
- 22:26Speaker 2: do that, don't hunt seals.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Gosh.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Well, all right, that brings us to Central and South
- 22:35Speaker 1: American goddesses. And yes, a quick note here. As we said,
- 22:39Speaker 1: when doing this research, we noticed a lot of overlapping
- 22:42Speaker 1: in terms of Central and South America, which is not great.
- 22:45Speaker 1: But when we were trying to find these goddesses, and
- 22:48Speaker 1: with that, many of the names and legends also overlapped.
- 22:51Speaker 1: So we're going to put them here together. So let
- 22:55Speaker 1: us start with Azuli, Lady of Love or Beauty. Air
- 22:59Speaker 1: Zuo is depicted as the spirit of love beauty, a
- 23:02Speaker 1: and luxury. According to U Cities dot org a quote,
- 23:07Speaker 1: this Vudan goddess is worshiped by Haitians as matron of love, beauty, health,
- 23:13Speaker 1: and the moon. She is personified as a water snake.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Vudan was originally unique to Haiti, a combination of Catholicism
- 23:22Speaker 1: and Urubin cosmology developed by slaves as a tool of
- 23:26Speaker 1: survival and rebellion. And on the Wikipedia page, it says
- 23:31Speaker 1: that Herzuli is a family of loa that are often
- 23:33Speaker 1: associated with water, fluidity, femininity, and feminine bodies. They are
- 23:38Speaker 1: one of the only group of spirits directly tied to
- 23:40Speaker 1: these characteristics, and those who become possessed through spirit possession
- 23:44Speaker 1: often are women are masisi a feminine and or homosexual men.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Then there's Ishelle or Lady Rainbow as Shell is known
- 23:53Speaker 1: as a female jaguar goddess that is associated with the
- 23:55Speaker 1: Mayan moon goddess. Here's a quote from mythlock dot com quote.
- 24:00Speaker 1: The magnificent Goddess of Maya mythology wielded powerful divine abilities
- 24:04Speaker 1: that resonated across various aspects of life. Revered as the
- 24:08Speaker 1: matron of childbirth, guardian of midwifery and mother of crops.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Her influence spanned the realms of rain, fertility, and agriculture.
- 24:16Speaker 1: As the goddess of fertility, Eschell was believed to govern
- 24:20Speaker 1: the reproductive cycles of humans, animals, and plants, and it
- 24:24Speaker 1: continues quote. It is believed that Eschell was a part
- 24:27Speaker 1: of the god Izamna. She was regarded as the goddess
- 24:30Speaker 1: of the moon, water, childbirth, and weaving in the Maya
- 24:33Speaker 1: of the Peninsula of Mexico. She is also the mother
- 24:37Speaker 1: of all the Mayan deities and has rules about the
- 24:40Speaker 1: cycles of life and death. As the keeper of souls,
- 24:43Speaker 1: Eschell constantly changes from being a young beauty into a
- 24:46Speaker 1: wise old crone who shares her people's wisdom. And then
- 24:50Speaker 1: there's Mama Kilia or Mama Kilia, the moon goddess. She
- 24:55Speaker 1: is considered a defender of women as well as the
- 24:58Speaker 1: goddess of both marriage and ja. Here's some information from Wikipedia.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Mama Chilia was known as Mother Moon and was goddess
- 25:06Speaker 1: of the moon. According to Father Bernabay Cobo, writing in
- 25:09Speaker 1: the mid sixteenth century, the moon was worshiped because of
- 25:13Speaker 1: her quote admirable beauty and the quote benefit she bestows
- 25:17Speaker 1: upon the world. She was important for calculating the passage
- 25:21Speaker 1: of time and the calendar, because many rituals were based
- 25:24Speaker 1: upon the lunar calendar and adjusted to match the solar year.
- 25:28Speaker 1: She also oversaw marriage women's menstrul cycles and was deemed
- 25:31Speaker 1: the protector of women in general. And here's a bit
- 25:35Speaker 1: more information about her from mythlock quote. Mythical tales about
- 25:39Speaker 1: Mamma Chilia includes stories of her shedding tears of silver
- 25:42Speaker 1: and the belief that lunar eclipses occurred when she was
- 25:45Speaker 1: under attack by a celestial creature. And it goes on
- 25:49Speaker 1: to say the Incas had a deep fear of lunar eclipses,
- 25:52Speaker 1: convinced that during these events, a menacing animal, possibly a mountain,
- 25:56Speaker 1: lion or serpent, was assaulting Mama Chilia. Consequently, people sought
- 26:02Speaker 1: to ward off this creature by hurling weapons, making frantic gestures,
- 26:05Speaker 1: and creating loud noises. Their belief is rooted in the
- 26:08Speaker 1: notion that if the animals succeeded in its attack, it
- 26:11Speaker 1: would plunge the world into darkness.
- 26:13Speaker 3: We don't need that. Get those animals away from her.
- 26:19Speaker 1: That does I mean, it does seem a consistent fear
- 26:22Speaker 1: throughout history too, which I get. If you didn't know
- 26:25Speaker 1: what an eclipse was, it's just suddenly dark all the time.
- 26:28Speaker 3: I would be very scared. I'm still a little nervous.
- 26:32Speaker 3: So when it comes back out, you were like, yeah,
- 26:34Speaker 3: he's excited. We protected. Yeah, that's good. We need to
- 26:39Speaker 3: do that a win. Oh, we need to win. Yes.
- 26:45Speaker 1: And this brings us to Asho Mama Potato Mother, because
- 26:50Speaker 1: who doesn't love potatoes obviously hm. According to the collector
- 26:54Speaker 1: dot Com, Ashue Mama was responsible in helping the Inca
- 26:57Speaker 1: people cultivate potatoes, and this was huge because the Incas
- 27:02Speaker 1: were the first to domesticate potatoes and they helped essentially
- 27:05Speaker 1: develop over three thousand different varieties. Here are some quotes
- 27:09Speaker 1: from the site about Ashu Mama. Ashu Mama literally Potato Mother,
- 27:14Speaker 1: was a daughter of Pacha Mama and it was her
- 27:17Speaker 1: responsibility to help the Inca people cultivate potatoes. Potatoes became
- 27:21Speaker 1: a staple crop for the empire, so it was essential
- 27:23Speaker 1: to ensure they're continued good harvest by honoring the goddess responsible.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Unusually shaped potatoes were used as idols for worshiping Ashu
- 27:32Speaker 1: Mama and there's evidence potatoes were buried with the dead.
- 27:35Speaker 3: Like that is unusually shaped potato. So why that is?
- 27:39Speaker 3: I wonder when you're like, yeah, I got one, we
- 27:41Speaker 3: got one for her.
- 27:42Speaker 1: I mean that's again, that's nice. Yeah, like that instead
- 27:46Speaker 1: of throwing away a quote unusually shaped potatoes, I would
- 27:49Speaker 1: eat them. Yeah. Now, let's talk about siawa Quattle, or
- 28:03Speaker 1: the serpent woman, who is a goddess of fertility and motherhood.
- 28:08Speaker 1: She was associated with midwives, and specifically the sweat lodges
- 28:11Speaker 1: that the midwives would practice. In a little bit from
- 28:15Speaker 1: Wikipedia quote, she helped her people create the current race
- 28:18Speaker 1: of humanity by grinding up bones from the previous ages
- 28:22Speaker 1: and mixing it with his blood. She is also the
- 28:24Speaker 1: mother of Meeks Quatto, whom she abandoned at a crossroads.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Tradition says that she often returns there to weep for
- 28:31Speaker 1: her lost son, only to find a sacrificial knife. And
- 28:36Speaker 1: here's some more information from mythlock dot com. Siwacadal, a
- 28:41Speaker 1: prominent deity in Mesoamerican mythology, occupies a significant position within
- 28:46Speaker 1: the cultural narratives of both the Aztecs and the Mayans.
- 28:50Speaker 1: Revered for her connections to fertility and motherhood. She played
- 28:53Speaker 1: a crucial role in guiding and safeguarding these ancient civilizations.
- 28:58Speaker 1: As a key goddess in the Aztec pantheon, Sea Aquadal
- 29:02Speaker 1: held a pivotal role in shaping the religious and cultural
- 29:04Speaker 1: beliefs of the Mesoamerican societies of antiquity, and they continue.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Sea Aquatdal's powers mirrored the diversity of her manifestations. Her
- 29:14Speaker 1: abilities encompassed the granting and taking of life, bestowing fertility
- 29:18Speaker 1: upon women and guiding the spirits of those who passed
- 29:20Speaker 1: away during childbirth. With command over storms and mastery over
- 29:24Speaker 1: natural forces, she embodied the formidable influence that women wielded
- 29:28Speaker 1: in the act of creation. According to legends, she possessed
- 29:33Speaker 1: shape shifting prowess, seamlessly transforming into serpents or owls to
- 29:37Speaker 1: vigilantly watch over her progeny and shield them from harm.
- 29:41Speaker 1: As a potent deity, Sea Aquadal held a particular association
- 29:45Speaker 1: with motherhood and fertility. Her influence extended significantly to midwives,
- 29:50Speaker 1: finding a special connection with the sweat baths where these
- 29:54Speaker 1: practitioners honed their skills. Notably, she collaborated with Kate Sicatle
- 29:58Speaker 1: in the creation of the current human race, grinding bones
- 30:02Speaker 1: from previous ages and blending them with his blood. This
- 30:05Speaker 1: act underscored her pivol role in the genesis of humanity.
- 30:09Speaker 2: All right, So again, there's so many goddesses, specifically too
- 30:14Speaker 2: Central and South America. So if y'all have any additional
- 30:17Speaker 2: because you know, it is so rich with so much history,
- 30:22Speaker 2: and I'm glad it still exists for the main part,
- 30:24Speaker 2: even with colonization that happens.
- 30:26Speaker 3: So if you have information, give it to us. If
- 30:28Speaker 3: you have more.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Apparently this has something to do with a game as well,
- 30:31Speaker 2: or a game has included her as well, as ay
- 30:33Speaker 2: just told me that she wouldn't include that fact.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I like how I was like, I shall not, And
- 30:38Speaker 1: I'm like, do you merch the talk about goddesses by
- 30:41Speaker 1: talking about my video games?
- 30:43Speaker 3: And you're like, actually, I want to do.
- 30:45Speaker 2: It because you know it's good to know. They're like
- 30:47Speaker 2: these are familiar. Oh, without any understanding. I'm sure you did,
- 30:51Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't know that this is
- 30:53Speaker 2: fairly historical and what it really relates to. So we
- 30:56Speaker 2: love that they are a part of it. But here
- 30:58Speaker 2: you go, mystraated with it.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is really interesting to think about
- 31:03Speaker 1: in terms of our current pop culture, how how prevalence
- 31:10Speaker 1: a lot of these ideas are, even though a lot
- 31:13Speaker 1: of people don't know where they come from. But it's
- 31:15Speaker 1: a lot of these I do recognize, for better or worse,
- 31:19Speaker 1: from video games and from like current things like American
- 31:23Speaker 1: gods right by Neo game, and so it's like it
- 31:26Speaker 1: resonates with people.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Right.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Actually, there's several that was from like a lot of
- 31:31Speaker 2: MCU Marvel that comes to the north, obviously the Norse gods,
- 31:35Speaker 2: and I was like, we're not including these people.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Yes, there are some like Greek gods and Roman guys
- 31:40Speaker 1: that people just know and we don't need to well,
- 31:43Speaker 1: we don't need we don't need that wor Yes, yes
- 31:46Speaker 1: they are super cool and you know, yes I went
- 31:49Speaker 1: through a phase we're so into them, but yeah, we
- 31:51Speaker 1: were trying to not do these.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Yes, although you're probably be like, there's gonna be things
- 31:57Speaker 2: that I'm like, I didn't know that was a part
- 31:58Speaker 2: of it, and you're like, yeah, obviously it's a part
- 32:00Speaker 2: of this game.
- 32:02Speaker 3: So if I picked those out, my bad.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Also, if you all want to talk about him, go ahead,
- 32:08Speaker 2: all right, So we're gonna jump into Pacific goddesses.
- 32:12Speaker 3: So once again.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Pronunciations, I am so sorry, Oh please, don't get made me.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Uh So, We're gonna start with Heway Coleco Hallway Coleco,
- 32:22Speaker 2: the Tongan goddess of the world. According to our research,
- 32:25Speaker 2: this goddess has had a resurgence as of late. In fact,
- 32:28Speaker 2: after the discovery of the ancient goddess, there are some
- 32:31Speaker 2: who tried to write Heway Coleku as a male figure,
- 32:34Speaker 2: but they were able to discover several figurines that proved
- 32:37Speaker 2: her to be a female goddess.
- 32:39Speaker 3: I love it. Even when they try, the truth is
- 32:41Speaker 3: gonna come out.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Uh So. Here's a quote from pacificpn dot com. When
- 32:45Speaker 2: the missionaries arrived in Tonga, they came across statues and
- 32:48Speaker 2: figurines of Heyway Coleco, bare breasted and naked. The worship
- 32:53Speaker 2: of Hiway Coleco was promptly made illegal. Her fail out
- 32:56Speaker 2: Wutua temples burned in all or so they thought statues
- 33:00Speaker 2: and figurines depicting her destroyed. That a god, and the
- 33:04Speaker 2: most powerful god at that be a goddess, and even worse,
- 33:06Speaker 2: be depicted bare breasted was not something that the church
- 33:09Speaker 2: was going to accommodate. As time went by, they continue
- 33:12Speaker 2: to try to wipe out the collective memory of Huaykoleko
- 33:16Speaker 2: or to change it, including efforts to rewrite her as
- 33:19Speaker 2: a male figure. Luckily, however, six original figurines managed to
- 33:23Speaker 2: avoid destruction and helped set the record straight and again
- 33:27Speaker 2: some more information from the collector dot com. Huwaiko Alek
- 33:30Speaker 2: recently has become an important goddess for Tonga, as she
- 33:33Speaker 2: represents not just the significance of their cultural past, but
- 33:37Speaker 2: also a means to secure their future. There is a
- 33:39Speaker 2: take back of culture in the form of decolonization in
- 33:42Speaker 2: Tonga and all around the world. Traditionally, Tongan's crafted wooden
- 33:46Speaker 2: figures of Huwaiko Leko to bring the goddess into the
- 33:49Speaker 2: physical realm for various reasons. As a result, she appears
- 33:52Speaker 2: tough and powerful, ready to aid those in the realm
- 33:55Speaker 2: outside of it, particularly those in the founding chief line
- 33:58Speaker 2: of Towai Tongu, who is her earthly representation. Okay, so,
- 34:02Speaker 2: of course we didn't really get into what she was
- 34:04Speaker 2: representing because there's so much excitement about the fact that
- 34:08Speaker 2: they were able to discover her and really take her
- 34:10Speaker 2: on as one of their goddesses and figures, and the
- 34:13Speaker 2: fact that they not only try to eradicate her, then
- 34:15Speaker 2: they try to rewrite her, and then they had got
- 34:17Speaker 2: to be able to see her as she is. So
- 34:19Speaker 2: there's a lot of excitement with this conversation and I'm
- 34:21Speaker 2: really excited to hear with the legends that come in
- 34:23Speaker 2: the stories that will come with it, So keep us
- 34:25Speaker 2: up to date.
- 34:26Speaker 3: They'll know about that.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Then we have Papa Tuanuku, the Maori goddess of the Earth.
- 34:32Speaker 2: So this goddess is also referred to as Papa and
- 34:34Speaker 2: is seen as mother of all. And here's a bit
- 34:36Speaker 2: of information from the collector dot com. We arrive on
- 34:40Speaker 2: the mainland north Island of Auta and a regal goddess
- 34:43Speaker 2: stands on the headland looking down at us in greeting.
- 34:46Speaker 2: She is Papa, the goddess of the Earth, the land
- 34:48Speaker 2: that gave birth to all things, and looks over these
- 34:51Speaker 2: children of trees, birds, animals and people. She's often sleeping
- 34:55Speaker 2: with her back set up towards the sky, but she
- 34:57Speaker 2: is here as a spirit to welcome us. Being the
- 35:00Speaker 2: mother of all, she has many children who have kept
- 35:02Speaker 2: her occupied, but she has been eternally sad since giving birth.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Her first children split her up from her partner Rongi,
- 35:08Speaker 2: the god of the sky. The children might have brought
- 35:10Speaker 2: light to the world, but they made their parents sad,
- 35:13Speaker 2: creating the rivers and oceans as a reminder of their
- 35:16Speaker 2: shared tears. Yeah, there's a lot of legends about her
- 35:19Speaker 2: waiting and mourning her husband. And I was like, oh, well,
- 35:23Speaker 2: that's kind of sad.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Well they all yeah, I love the children. They bought
- 35:28Speaker 1: the light to the world, but they bummed out their parents.
- 35:32Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of parents was like you, I
- 35:34Speaker 3: feel that you're welcome.
- 35:39Speaker 2: And then we come to Laca. Laca is the goddess
- 35:42Speaker 2: that is honored with hula, and she is associated with
- 35:45Speaker 2: light and love. Here's a quote from Historycooperative dot org. Laka,
- 35:49Speaker 2: the goddess of dance, beauty, love, and fertility, is associated
- 35:52Speaker 2: with all things of light. She is also the goddess
- 35:55Speaker 2: of the forest and would enrich the plants with her light.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Her name is often translated to mean gentle and again
- 36:01Speaker 2: some more information from mythlock dot com. Laka, a central
- 36:05Speaker 2: figure in Hawaiian mythology, holds a significant place in the
- 36:09Speaker 2: cultural fabric, particularly in the realm of Hula, the revered
- 36:13Speaker 2: traditional dance. According to ancient Hawaiian folklore, she emerges as
- 36:17Speaker 2: the daughter of Coppo, another prominent deity intricately tied to
- 36:21Speaker 2: Hula's origins. Lacha's influence extends beyond dance. She's also revered
- 36:26Speaker 2: as the goddess of the forest, embodying reproductive energy vital
- 36:29Speaker 2: for the flourishing of lush greenery. And yes, she again
- 36:33Speaker 2: is an inspiration for hula dancers. And here's a bit
- 36:36Speaker 2: more information from the same myth Lux site. Laca's essence
- 36:40Speaker 2: resonates with the very spirit of Hula, encapsulating its grace
- 36:43Speaker 2: and loure. Her name meaning gentle and to attract epitomizes
- 36:47Speaker 2: the qualities inherited in this art form, and it goes on.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Laca's enduring significance in Hawaiian culture, particularly within the realm
- 36:54Speaker 2: of Hula, underscores her profound influence beyond mere deity status.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Practitioners hold a deep devotion to Laka, seeking her blessings
- 37:03Speaker 2: and guidance as they navigate the intricacies of this revered
- 37:06Speaker 2: dance form. Her presence infuses the Hula tradition with spiritual depth,
- 37:10Speaker 2: emphasizing reverence for the natural world and embodying the essence
- 37:14Speaker 2: of Hawaiians spirituality. Despite periods of colonial suppression, the practice
- 37:18Speaker 2: of hula has experienced and resurgence, driven by a renewed
- 37:21Speaker 2: appreciation for indigenous traditions and a yearning to reconnect with
- 37:24Speaker 2: the land. Laca's legacy lives on through the dedication of
- 37:27Speaker 2: dancers and artists committed to honoring her through their craft,
- 37:30Speaker 2: preserving sacred rituals and teachings passed down through generations. And
- 37:35Speaker 2: I'm not really sure if I would say it has
- 37:38Speaker 2: gotten a resurgence, because I feel like when it comes
- 37:41Speaker 2: to hula and when it comes to Hawaii and the
- 37:43Speaker 2: Native people of Hawaii, it has always been sacred and
- 37:46Speaker 2: it has always been a telling and I think they
- 37:48Speaker 2: are very excited to share it. That's the one thing.
- 37:51Speaker 2: I feel like they are all about spreading that joy.
- 37:53Speaker 2: And I say this as just like from the outsider,
- 37:55Speaker 2: not knowing much about it, but just watching knowing that
- 37:59Speaker 2: this is a sacred ritual and they are glad to
- 38:01Speaker 2: share it with other people, like that is something that
- 38:04Speaker 2: they think is joyful and beautiful and worthy of sharing,
- 38:07Speaker 2: which is really kind because so many people try to
- 38:10Speaker 2: ruin it, as we know when it comes to colonization.
- 38:13Speaker 3: So I think that's a little off because yes.
- 38:16Speaker 2: The colonial suppression, yes, but the fact that it's resurgence,
- 38:18Speaker 2: I think it's always existed. Like as I was looking
- 38:21Speaker 2: at the YouTube videos and the different women who were
- 38:23Speaker 2: practicing hula and talking about hula, you could tell the
- 38:27Speaker 2: deep respect they have for the practice and for Laca.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Did I know that the goddess was Laca? No?
- 38:32Speaker 3: But did I know this was sacred ritual? Yes?
- 38:34Speaker 2: So I feel like we have to absolutely give props
- 38:38Speaker 2: to that that it's not a resurgence.
- 38:40Speaker 3: It's always existed. It's just that we're taking notice.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Right right, And this brings us to European goddesses again,
- 38:48Speaker 1: we're looking at lesser known ones, starting with Makash, also
- 38:53Speaker 1: known as mother Goddess, a lady of waters or goddess
- 38:56Speaker 1: of moisture. She is known as a protector of quote,
- 39:00Speaker 1: women's work and women's destiny. Here's more information from ThoughtCo
- 39:04Speaker 1: dot com.
- 39:06Speaker 3: Quote.
- 39:06Speaker 1: In Slavic mythology, Makash, sometimes transliterated as Makash meaning Friday,
- 39:13Speaker 1: is moist mother Earth and thus the most important or
- 39:16Speaker 1: sometimes only goddess in their religion. As a creator, she
- 39:20Speaker 1: is said to have been discovered sleeping in a cave
- 39:22Speaker 1: by a flowering spring by the spring god je Rillo,
- 39:27Speaker 1: with whom she created the fruits of the earth. She
- 39:30Speaker 1: is also the protector of spinning, tending, sheep and wool,
- 39:33Speaker 1: patron of merchants and fishermen, who protects cattle from plagues
- 39:37Speaker 1: and people from drought, disease, drowning, and unclean spirits. And
- 39:43Speaker 1: here's additional information from feminismand Religion dot com. Makash brings
- 39:48Speaker 1: the water of life and protects the life giving waters
- 39:51Speaker 1: on which human and animal existence depend. And this way,
- 39:55Speaker 1: Makash gives life to plants and animals and is often
- 39:58Speaker 1: portrayed with them. She is an important Slavic mother goddess,
- 40:02Speaker 1: embodying fertility, femininity, prosperity, protection, health, good luck, abundance, and
- 40:08Speaker 1: a successful future. Macash is also a warrior goddess in
- 40:13Speaker 1: her fierce aspect as a goddess of protection. One of
- 40:17Speaker 1: her epithets is quote she who strikes with her wings.
- 40:22Speaker 1: The fact that she is a winged goddess indicates her
- 40:24Speaker 1: power and that which she grants to her priestesses. And
- 40:27Speaker 1: devotees to travel between the world's in trance, dream and
- 40:31Speaker 1: vision for blessing and for healing on behalf of the
- 40:34Speaker 1: community and all who are in need. Makash is also
- 40:37Speaker 1: connected to butterflies symbols of transformation and bees symbols of priestesses.
- 40:43Speaker 3: In antiquity, bees getting as getting as do look at
- 40:47Speaker 3: bet I do love bees. That is the truth.
- 40:53Speaker 1: This brings us to Haltia, Lady of the Home. Haltia
- 40:59Speaker 1: is the goddess of the home. She is a Baltic
- 41:01Speaker 1: Finn's goddess who protects home. Here's some information from botanica
- 41:05Speaker 1: dot com quote. In Finland, the Haltia was usually the
- 41:09Speaker 1: spirit of the first person to lay claim to a site,
- 41:13Speaker 1: either by lighting a fire on it or by building
- 41:15Speaker 1: a house on it, or in some cases, the first
- 41:18Speaker 1: person to die there. The Haltio is believed to resemble
- 41:21Speaker 1: such a person in every way, including sex, age, dress,
- 41:24Speaker 1: and mannerisms. The dominant idea was that a person once
- 41:28Speaker 1: lane claim to a piece of land would always remain
- 41:31Speaker 1: in charge of it, and apparently with this she us
- 41:34Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for those who want to move to
- 41:37Speaker 1: a new home.
- 41:38Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot to this, Like there's not
- 41:43Speaker 2: much in conversation of like, this is a cool thing,
- 41:45Speaker 2: but I'm like, man, that's a lot of like underlying
- 41:48Speaker 2: thought process on this.
- 41:50Speaker 3: Hm.
- 41:52Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there is. As someone who's going through a
- 41:55Speaker 1: lot of changes and moves in my life, right though,
- 41:59Speaker 1: I got a lot to think about. This springs us
- 42:03Speaker 1: to Beg, who comes from Irish mythology and is known
- 42:08Speaker 1: as the Mistress of the Well. Here's a bit of
- 42:11Speaker 1: information from Goddesses and Goods blogspot dot com. Beg is
- 42:15Speaker 1: the Irish goddess of the Well of Wisdom. She is
- 42:18Speaker 1: one of the Tua de danyin the people of the
- 42:22Speaker 1: goddess Danum. She and her three daughters guarded a magical well,
- 42:27Speaker 1: and anyone who drank from the well would gain in wisdom.
- 42:30Speaker 1: When the hero Finn Mikula came and asked for a drink,
- 42:35Speaker 1: Beg's daughters threw water at him, hoping to frighten him away,
- 42:38Speaker 1: but some of the water fell in his mouth, granting
- 42:41Speaker 1: him the wisdom he had sought. When Finn died, he
- 42:44Speaker 1: was buried in a fairy hill called Sea Beg, which
- 42:47Speaker 1: means small fairy hill. And finally, this springs us to Brigid,
- 42:53Speaker 1: the goddess of poetry, healing, and smithing. According to lor
- 42:57Speaker 1: Brigid was known as a triple goddess. Year's a bit
- 43:00Speaker 1: from Celtic native dot com. Brigid, also known as Brigitte
- 43:04Speaker 1: or Brigid, was one of the most important goddesses in
- 43:08Speaker 1: Celtic mythology. She was a triple goddess, representing the three
- 43:12Speaker 1: aspects of fire, poetry, healing and smithcraft. Brigid was associated
- 43:17Speaker 1: with the arrival of spring and the return of light
- 43:19Speaker 1: after the dark winter months and some more from herstory
- 43:23Speaker 1: dot ie quote Brigid is a triple goddess, the goddess
- 43:26Speaker 1: of healing symbolized by the element of water, goddess of
- 43:29Speaker 1: the alchemical force of fire, and goddess of poetry. In
- 43:33Speaker 1: this respect she represents every woman and our unique talents,
- 43:37Speaker 1: skills and qualities. And it continues Brigid and bodies mastery
- 43:41Speaker 1: represented in the perfect balance of fire and water, symbols
- 43:44Speaker 1: of the masculine and feminine.
- 43:47Speaker 2: Right. I believe they said that it also like similar
- 43:49Speaker 2: to yin and yang, So it's very like that balance
- 43:52Speaker 2: in conversation, and that is who she is. And y'all
- 43:55Speaker 2: all of these are really really fascinating, especially when you
- 43:57Speaker 2: look at the pictures and artwork in statues, because there's
- 44:01Speaker 2: a lot of historical context for them and beautiful artwork
- 44:04Speaker 2: with people who truly, truly love what these represent. Again,
- 44:09Speaker 2: we didn't go into like the depth of each region
- 44:11Speaker 2: because when it comes to all the historical facts, there
- 44:15Speaker 2: were small communities throughout, so you have so many layers
- 44:19Speaker 2: upon layers and influences upon influences and originations upon originations
- 44:23Speaker 2: that we didn't really get into. If you have something
- 44:26Speaker 2: that you want to specifically talk about, you would request
- 44:29Speaker 2: that we because this is fascinating.
- 44:30Speaker 3: This is probably one of my favorite things.
- 44:32Speaker 2: One of our favorite things to look into is like
- 44:34Speaker 2: the historical legends that center around feminine power. We would
- 44:39Speaker 2: love for you to, you know, let us know what
- 44:41Speaker 2: you think, what you think would be the next steps
- 44:43Speaker 2: for this conversation. The depth of these, the bigger pictures
- 44:47Speaker 2: maybe or the smaller pictures, well, who knows. Because there's
- 44:50Speaker 2: also this thought. As I was thinking about all of
- 44:54Speaker 2: these different goddesses and what they represent and how they
- 44:56Speaker 2: often are linked to like births and rebirth and creation
- 45:01Speaker 2: and power and wisdom. Wisdom was all throughout, I'm like, yeah,
- 45:05Speaker 2: I feel like that's what we've been.
- 45:06Speaker 3: Talking about for years.
- 45:07Speaker 2: And then like the trivial misogyny that comes in with
- 45:09Speaker 2: like women are too emotional, and like but are they?
- 45:13Speaker 3: But are they?
- 45:14Speaker 2: So with all of that, there's so much fascinations in
- 45:17Speaker 2: different areas. And then again as we were researching, as
- 45:21Speaker 2: we see them as partnered with a bigger god, obviously
- 45:25Speaker 2: the masculine god, and I think that's interesting as well.
- 45:27Speaker 2: So finding these lone standing goddesses, we're a little harder
- 45:34Speaker 2: than I expected to be honest, if you have ideas
- 45:38Speaker 2: based on this episode, please let us know again. If
- 45:41Speaker 2: you have someone that you're like, you know you should
- 45:42Speaker 2: have talked about this person, please send us that information
- 45:45Speaker 2: because we want more information. I thought this was gonna
- 45:48Speaker 2: be a longer episode because like so many things that
- 45:51Speaker 2: I had to write into, I think it became a
- 45:53Speaker 2: longer episode because of the pronunciations.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Christina is the best. We love you. She's probably taking
- 45:57Speaker 3: it down to half of what it was.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, well yeah, if you have any ideas about this,
- 46:02Speaker 1: if there's somebody in here you have more information about,
- 46:05Speaker 1: or like us to focus on more. If you have
- 46:07Speaker 1: someone else if you have like resources. I know people
- 46:10Speaker 1: have suggested books about certain goddesses before in the past,
- 46:13Speaker 1: so if you have any of that, we would love
- 46:18Speaker 1: to hear from you. You can contact us. You can
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