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- 0:06You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Thursday morning, twenty ninth
- 0:11day of June. Hi, I'm Wes, Thanks for joining me. Survived
- 0:16another day in this location. Feeling pretty good about it. So far,
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- 0:38point. They'll be back, all right. I want to talk a little
- 0:42bit about them. I don't know. I want to make sure money feel
- 0:48safe. I feel like this is one of those topics maybe won't make people
- 0:51feel safe, but I want everybody to feel safe, because when people don't
- 0:55feel safe, that's when a bunch of episodes of your show get deleted and
- 0:59you got to move to another spot. But I'm going to do my best
- 1:02in this conversation because I do want everyone to feel safe, and I really
- 1:07don't know what was done before to make people not feel safe. So I'm
- 1:11trying to avoid some of those topics, not really, but I want to
- 1:15avoid the people not feeling safe. I want to make sure everybody feel safe
- 1:21as they listen to this show and continue to feel safe many many years from
- 1:26now. So we talked not too long ago about some of the different sort
- 1:36of religious cults that are upon us, whether we realize that's what they are
- 1:42or not, we do have a and I just lobbed this out there as
- 1:49as just conversation topic fodder if you want. I just put this out there
- 1:57because my question was if we are being told that everything to do with the
- 2:06environment when it comes to Green New Deal, when it comes to this mandating
- 2:12of various legislation and things pushing forth the environmental agenda, and then in reality,
- 2:22a lot of what climate change has become is in a way, this
- 2:29religion. There's a lot of things that we do that have become sort of
- 2:34like religions. You talk to people that like to do they like to eat
- 2:39vegan food. For some people, they just eat vegan food or vegan food.
- 2:45They eat vegan food and that's it. That's what they do. They
- 2:46eat it, and they get on with their life and they feel a certain
- 2:51way about it, better about themselves, they feel healthier or whatever it is,
- 2:55and they just go on about their day. There's people that do as
- 2:59a cross fit, remember the CrossFit. They they do it and then they
- 3:05exercise, and then they get on with their day and with their lives.
- 3:07There's some people who think that organic food makes them feel better, makes them
- 3:14feel healthier, and they eat it and they get on with their day,
- 3:16and all this various. You know, you've got folks that don't eat meat,
- 3:21like they're the Pescterians. We'll I'll only eat fish or whatever. You
- 3:24got those people, and they do it and they just get on with their
- 3:28day and that's what they do. And you got environmental people that say,
- 3:30hey, I'm gonna be a responsible human being. I'm gonna try to recycle
- 3:35plastics and hope they get reused and we don't have to make as much plastic
- 3:38and I'll try to do my part for that. And then you got people
- 3:43in all of those categories, and that's not all the categories, that's some
- 3:46of the categories. But then you got people in those categories in some cases
- 3:51that have just lost their minds, right, They can't stop talking about it.
- 3:55They want to make sure that you're doing all of the things that they're
- 3:59doing, and if you're not, they might say, you know, how
- 4:03can you not do it? Or that you're dangerous or you're making them not
- 4:08feel safe or whatever it is. Right, there's something there that they're telling
- 4:13you. How dare you eat meat? Or how dare you eat you know,
- 4:15foods that have been grown in you know, pesticides that actually work and
- 4:23not the organic ones that are older and not as effective. And if everybody
- 4:29used organic pesticides, there wouldn't be enough food to feed everybody. So it's
- 4:34one of those things where you go everybody's trying to just do their own thing
- 4:40and live their lives, but then you've got some people that try to tell
- 4:43you that you have to do whatever it is that makes them feel special.
- 4:47And that's really what it is. It's about what makes it When people talk
- 4:49about it constantly, it's because it's that thing that makes them feel special.
- 4:55That's what it is. Okay, So one of those things that's and by
- 5:01the way, I talked about this before when it came to the environment,
- 5:05because my question was when environmentalism has become a religion for so many people around
- 5:14the world, if you will I know environmentalists who actually literally put their own
- 5:21Christian faith aside so that they can be more supportive of environmental causes. They
- 5:31feel like it's more important to support the environment than it is to support some
- 5:39of the other things politically that directly tie into elements of their faith. And
- 5:46that's their choice. They're certainly allowed to do that. But you can't do
- 5:49that and tell me that there's not some element of a cult like following that's
- 5:56there, right, There's there's this thing that is driving you in a different
- 6:01direction, and big picture wise, if you're just you know, voting,
- 6:06say all of your votes when you vote in elections is for the purposes of
- 6:12the environment and all of the things that are important faith based, be damned.
- 6:19You know, you can go against a number of things. You can
- 6:23say, hey, I don't support abortion. I don't think that's okay.
- 6:27I don't think that's what God intended. But I'll vote against the people who
- 6:33oppose abortion as long as I can vote to make sure that, you know,
- 6:38like a national park gets some funding. Like there's a weird contrast that's
- 6:44there, right, And I know it gets tricky. You can't always get
- 6:47everything that you want. When it comes to politics. But if you're ready
- 6:53to push some things that are kind of core in your faith aside for the
- 6:57purposes of something political, that's kind of a cult and it's cult like.
- 7:02And let's be honest, the environmental stuff has become very cult like. So
- 7:05if our federal government is pushing environmental things on us, Green new deals and
- 7:12all that, we're kind of getting into some of this, you know,
- 7:16violation of Bill Right's kind of stuff. You know, government shall make no
- 7:21law establishing religion because in some ways that religion is being thrust upon us.
- 7:28Is that I know, it's a leap, it's a bit of a leap,
- 7:30I understand. But I do think that we're touching on this with a
- 7:33couple of things. We got another thing that's come along as now the concerns
- 7:41are starting to grow by Democrats pushing towards this next election as they're starting to
- 7:47realize that it's not just the straight white Christians that they're standing up to when
- 7:59they say we're pushing our LGBTQ plus agenda on schools and kids in schools.
- 8:07There actually are some other groups that aren't down with this. They think that
- 8:13parents rights are being pushed aside. They think students rights are being pushed aside,
- 8:18and they think that it's worth their time to protest it. As we're
- 8:22starting to see various other religious groups, Muslims being the group that apparently are
- 8:30being deemed the ultimate wildcard in the twenty twenty four election, because you've got
- 8:37a number of Muslim groups saying, wait a minute, our faith doesn't support
- 8:43this LGBTQ plus stuff, and we're tired of our political affiliation telling us that
- 8:52it has to or that we have to support it no matter what. I
- 8:58did a whole show, and I've told you if you are taking political cues
- 9:03and political instruction from human beings, and this applies to both sides. Because
- 9:09I'm gonna be honest, I've got some Republican friends who absolutely worship at the
- 9:13altar of Donald Trump. I've heard people say Donald Trump is the only one
- 9:20who can save us. Now, that doesn't really fit within the confines of
- 9:28basically Christian teaching, right, doesn't fit with the Muslim it doesn't fit with
- 9:33a number of religious groups. So it's not just Democrats, however, on
- 9:41this particular thing, when you're being told you should push your faith aside and
- 9:46make sure that your allegiances are with where they're telling you to vote, right,
- 9:52that's where your primary allegiance should be. And I've said this before.
- 9:56If you're putting your faith aside in the name of polity, tis you're not
- 10:01doing it right. You're not doing either one of them right. Okay,
- 10:05your faith should be guiding the decisions that you make and how you vote.
- 10:09It should be. It should be deciding. And if you don't have a
- 10:11faith, whatever your faith is. So if you don't have a religious faith
- 10:16and you decide, well, I'm an environmentalist, then that becomes your religious
- 10:22faith, and then that's what you're subscribing to. So if you're pushing aside
- 10:28whatever your upbringing is or whatever your faith was before. And this is one
- 10:31of the reasons why a lot of politicians, especially ones on the left,
- 10:35they don't necessarily want us having a faith, or they want to take whatever
- 10:41our faith is and tell us it's different. As we're hearing about how Catholics
- 10:46apparently should not be opposed to abortion, that's come up. Now we have
- 10:52a president of the United States who's Catholic and he supports abortion, even though
- 10:56the Catholic Church overall does not it's a weird it's a weird place to be
- 11:01in. But I'm not here to specifically talk about Catholics. I want to
- 11:05talk about this Muslim thing because as more and more Muslims are saying, wait
- 11:07a minute, we're parents, we should have rights, our kids should have
- 11:11rights, and we should not have this agenda pushed upon us. Our schools
- 11:18should not be teaching us things that go against what we believe. They're in
- 11:22school not to learn these things about LGBTQ plus communities. They're in school to
- 11:28learn what kids have been in school to learn for a long time. Okay,
- 11:33it's not about pushing forth agendas. It's about learning basic education. That's
- 11:39what they're supposed to be there for. They're supposed to be learning to read.
- 11:43They're supposed to be learning math. By the way, reading in math
- 11:46two of the things that were significantly behind on even still now in twenty twenty
- 11:50three, after kids were basically not allowed to go to school around the country
- 11:56and around the world at times, but specifically around the country, and it
- 12:01caused quite a bit of problems because kids are still playing catch up. They
- 12:07are, and the testing that was done wasn't specifically for twenty twenty. It's
- 12:11an impact from twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. But currently kids in school
- 12:16are behind where they should be on reading and on math. Okay, now
- 12:24science, they're just told just believe what you're told. The majority of scientists
- 12:28believe they get told that. That's pretty easy because you don't have to actually
- 12:31learn science. If you're just going to have someone shouting, I am science.
- 12:35Here's what I say is the case. Yes, science has told us
- 12:39for thousands of years there's two genders. But now we've got something different to
- 12:46tell you. And if you just so that's easy. You don't have to
- 12:48worry about playing catch up on science. They'll catch you up on the news
- 12:52on what to believe in science. They'll also catch you up with social studies.
- 12:58They rewrite history and change things and tell us that in religious studies,
- 13:03apparently did you see this. There's a church Minneapolis. It's the Edina Community
- 13:11Lutheran Church in Minneapolis. Now this is a church, by the way,
- 13:18They are part of the that's the name of the group, the Congregation of
- 13:26the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. And it's been a reconciling in Christ LGBTQ
- 13:33I a plus inclusive congregation since nineteen eighty five. But video went viral of
- 13:43the church and there, I guess this is their pastor who got up and
- 13:50got the church to recite their churches. One of the pastors, not the
- 13:56pastor. One of her name is Anna Helgan or Oin. And she got
- 14:01up and she said, we're gonna do the Sparkle Creed, which is an
- 14:07alteration of the Apostles Creed. I don't even feel right reading this. I
- 14:13want to read some of it, but I want to. It's one of
- 14:16those things where you just don't feel right saying the words out loud to you.
- 14:20This is what she said, and they had to all quote it together.
- 14:22The whole church was quoting this together. I believe in the non binary
- 14:26God, whose pronouns are plural. I believe in Jesus Christ, their child,
- 14:31who wore a fabulous tunic and had two dads and saw everyone as a
- 14:37sibling child of God. I believe in the rainbow spirit who shatters our image
- 14:43of one white light and refracts it into a rainbow of gorgeous diversity. This
- 14:48is what they said. I gotta keep stressing that I don't want to put
- 14:52this on me. I believe in the Church of everyday Saints, as numerous,
- 14:58creative and resilient as patches is on the aide quilt, whose feet are
- 15:01grounded in mud. This is something they were told to recite in church.
- 15:05By the way, whose eyes gaze at the stars and wonder. I believe
- 15:11in the calling to each of us that love is love, is love,
- 15:16So beloved, let us love. I believe, Glorious God, help my
- 15:20unbelief. Amen. This is what they were asked the sparkle creed. They
- 15:26all had to recite this collectively. Okay, again, this is what they
- 15:33you know, I'm very much a If this is what you want to believe,
- 15:39you go do your thing, Okay. But it shows that there is
- 15:43a little bit of this religious component to this, now, isn't there there's
- 15:48a religious component to this LGBTQ plus agenda. I'm sorry I missed some letters
- 15:54because I know some some make sure to stress the what is it? I
- 15:56a lg bt QI A plus right, okay. And they're also I guess
- 16:06for a climate justice. That's another thing that they push for. And then
- 16:11they had to and they also celebrate the summer solstice and honeybee populations. There's
- 16:18a whole lot of stuff going on here. There was a time. Whether
- 16:25this is fair or not, I'll let you decide. I have my opinion.
- 16:30There was a time we would have labeled this occult, right, I
- 16:33mean, this would have been a cult. This fits the definition, the
- 16:37old school definition of a cult. Right. I mean, wouldn't this at
- 16:44one time have been labeled a cult? Modifying and changing things? But that's
- 16:53what we do now, isn't it. We modify and we change things.
- 16:56I tell you who's not modifying and changing things. And that short traditional Muslims
- 17:03as they are now making a bit of a leap towards the right, and
- 17:08they are saying that we deserve a right to be heard, and they deserve
- 17:15to have their rights of their children and their families and their faith be honored
- 17:22in politics. And they don't think the Democratic Party is doing that for them.
- 17:32This is uh. And there have been a number of these groups that
- 17:34have been gathering and they're starting to protest. They're starting to be heard.
- 17:41I guess they're starting in different school boards in school districts, some of them
- 17:45vowing that they are going to run for school board positions, and some of
- 17:55these Muslim men and women have been accused of being racist. They've been accused
- 18:03of pushing the white supremacy agenda. They've done rallies. There was a rally
- 18:14back in March at the Montgomery County Public School System and it says about a
- 18:23two hundred and fifty Muslim parents were there with Christians in parts of the Jewish
- 18:30community and standing up in Maryland. And there were counter protestors there shouting them
- 18:37down. They were, or at least protesting and saying that they were aiding
- 18:41white supremacy. The number of to me, I look at that. There's
- 18:51a couple of photos I found from this protest. I see one group of
- 18:56all white people holding up rainbows and rainbow flags and trans flags and a number
- 19:04of things. And then I see the photo of a very diverse collection of
- 19:12people with skin tones and backgrounds and they're standing up together. They look more
- 19:21like a rainbow. They look more like they're representing a number of different people
- 19:26in places and where they're from. And even though they don't have the solidarity
- 19:33like you think about Muslims, Christians, and Jews standing up together, their
- 19:37common goal is looking out for their kids looking out for their families. And
- 19:45here on the other side you have the rainbows and people standing up for one
- 19:49united faith, which is again we would have called it a cult at some
- 19:56point. I think I'm not trying to get nasty. I don't want to
- 19:59make any body feel unsafe, but there's a there's a point in time when
- 20:04we would have looked at these things. We would have looked at organic food.
- 20:08We would have looked at the pescatarians and the vegans and the people who
- 20:15are pushing it, evangelicizing it in our faces and telling us how we're wrong,
- 20:22colonizing us back to that topic, colonizing us, telling us how we're
- 20:27supposed to see things the way that they do. These Muslims, these Jews
- 20:32there that are there standing in solidarity with the Christians, they're just helping out
- 20:37pushing this white supremacy agenda, and they need to properly be colonized and told
- 20:41that you're you're not unless you push for these sexual engender identity lessons in the
- 20:48schools. Then you're just pushing that white supremacy on everybody. So we'll see,
- 20:56we'll see what impact they have on the twenty twenty four election, but
- 21:02they right now are being labeled some of the potential wild cards in the twenty
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- 24:40after the break well, the Anti Defamation League says that online hate is on
- 24:52the rise in America. That's been the narrative for a while now, hasn't
- 24:56it. They say, According to the annual survey polled more than two thousand
- 25:00adults five hundred fifty teenagers, fifty two percent said they have faced online hate
- 25:06in their lifetime. That's up from forty percent in the previous year's survey.
- 25:11Would could vary greatly based on who's pulled, couldn't it? I mean twenty
- 25:15five hundred and fifty people get the sampling of another anyway? And they say
- 25:22that According to the Anti Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblat, he says, we're
- 25:30confronted with record levels of hate across the internet, hate that too often turns
- 25:36into real violence and danger in our communities. They say the most targeted group
- 25:41the LGBTQ plus community, And they say that to seventy six percent of transgender
- 25:48respondents say they've been targeted online at twenty six percent of Jewish respondents, thirty
- 25:53eight percent of Black respondents, thirty eight percent of Muslims said that they have
- 25:57been harassed online. So places where they get the most of this hate Facebook,
- 26:06Twitter, and read it. That's what they say. Ay a Fallout
- 26:10Boy has released a they're a band, by the way, they've released a
- 26:17sequel. That's what they're calling it to. We didn't start the fire.
- 26:22Remember the Billy Joel song. Of course you do. They've released it's supposed
- 26:26to pick up where the previous song left off in nineteen eighty nine, and
- 26:32it starts at nineteen ninety and then it goes through various events up until most
- 26:40of them pop culture related, by the way. That's kind of the difference.
- 26:44I know there were some elements of pop culture and the Billy Joel song,
- 26:47but this seems to lean very heavily on pop culture. There's a like
- 26:51Lebron James has mentioned in it, Michael Jordan mentioned in it twice because he
- 26:56had different basketball numbers. But it's pretty heavy on the pop culture. I'm
- 27:04just saying that's that would be my one. There's a couple other things in
- 27:10there I might criticize as well. But anyway, it's it's in the spirit
- 27:15I guess of the original song. It's still catchy. It's the same song
- 27:18basically, it's just a different band doing it, or a band doing it
- 27:22I should stay instead of Billy, Joel and whoever else he had working on
- 27:26it. But I don't know if you want to check it out. Starts
- 27:30with Captain Planet, by the way, which was released in nineteen ninety.
- 27:34All Right, so we finally now know, as they're officially calling the Flash
- 27:41a flop, it's not gonna make its money back. It's not gonna come
- 27:45close to making its money back. Part of the problem I still maintained is
- 27:52Ezra Miller. I mean, I think most people knew that was going to
- 27:55be the case. It was going to be a tough hill to climb,
- 28:00as Ezra Miller just you know, he had a he had a rough lead
- 28:04up to It's an understatement, but I don't anybody feel unsafe. So that
- 28:11gives a really easy excuse for the folks at Warner Brothers now and they were
- 28:15already going to do this reset in this reboot, but it makes it easier
- 28:18that there's nobody seeing but everybody loved the Flash everybody wants to see more of
- 28:25the Flash because they were already in the process of thinning out some of the
- 28:30The Flash movie gives an opportunity to kind of reset some of this stuff.
- 28:34Anyway. So anyway, one of the first movies moving forward, as James
- 28:41Gunn, who is now running the dc Cinematic Universe, I think they're calling
- 28:45it the DCU. Marvel had the mc has the MCU, DC is going
- 28:52to call it. I guess the DCU. It was the dc EU.
- 28:56Now they've dropped the E. I wonder if that's in that Fallout Boy song.
- 29:00Anyway, they've announced that they have a cast now at least two cast
- 29:06members, as they were already actively looking for a new Superman slash Clark Kent
- 29:12spoiler alert that's his secret identity, and a new Lois Lane, the new
- 29:18Lois Lane for the upcoming Superman Legacy, which will officially I don't know.
- 29:26They said that this Blue Beetle movie was going to count as part of this
- 29:30DCU as the first movie in that, but not a whole lot of I
- 29:34mean, Blue Beetle's kind of a deep dive anyway, right, that's a
- 29:38that's that's an album cut you know, we're really digging into the when it
- 29:44comes you now, you know, Blue beetle Is has some fans and it
- 29:48will do probably well considering they didn't spend anything close to what they spent on
- 29:52The Flash. But anyway, they needed to get into the you know,
- 29:57we got another Batman coming up. Well, that's tricky. This is where
- 30:03it's so confusing. They don't have it together the way Marvel does. There's
- 30:07a new Batman movie coming, which will it's gonna have you know, the
- 30:11Twilight guy in it again, right, he's gonna play Batman the Batman too.
- 30:17And then there's another sort of Batman movie, the Second Joker movie.
- 30:21But none of those are related to this DC you not EU. But anyway,
- 30:26they're gonna get a new Superman or a new Lois Lane for Superman Legacy.
- 30:32That's gonna be the name of this and this is going to start working
- 30:36towards getting all of these characters together the way they should have taken their time
- 30:40in the first place. It's a lot of talk about this movie, but
- 30:42it's important because it's a new Superman. Right, so the new Lois Lane
- 30:48will be Rachel Brasna hand from the Marvelous Missus Mazel and that's that's Lois Lane
- 30:57and then David corn sweat we'll be playing the new Superman. I don't I
- 31:07don't know a lot of him. I know who she is. I haven't
- 31:11watched the Marvelous I haven't watched much of it. I watched a little bit
- 31:15of it because I did interview Zachary Levi and I got to hang out with
- 31:19him a little bit, and he was in Marvelous Missus Maizel, So I
- 31:23know who she is. He's everybody I guess will eventually kind of know who
- 31:29this guy is. But this is a a good, good deal for him.
- 31:32And they had to get all this worked out because they're in the process
- 31:36of trying to get things sorted out before there's going to probably be like a
- 31:41sagum like a strike that's going to take place with the Screen Actors Guild,
- 31:49and because that's probably coming, they went through this with the writers and now
- 31:53I guess they're working on all this. So so there you go. Julian
- 31:59Sands, who himself has some Superman tie ins and he played uh Superman's dad
- 32:07in Smallville. Uh Julian uh Sands, the actor um have been has been
- 32:16found. His remains I should say have been found. Uh, Julian Sands
- 32:22was missing and there was a lot of sixty five year old actor and he
- 32:29was missing. Family was concerned, and they found some human remains on Mount
- 32:32Baldy outside Los Angeles, and yes, they've confirmed now that those were the
- 32:38remains of Julian Sands. Um so hes. He went missing in January,
- 32:45so it's taken him this long to to find him and confirmed. And I
- 32:50guess winter had an effect because there was some severe winter weather in that area.
- 32:54So there you go. He had he'd been uh, I guess there
- 32:58at Mount Baldy high and the family was obviously worried about him. So a
- 33:02sad end of that story, not what people were hoping for. But is
- 33:07the story went on, It certainly seemed like that was probably eventually where this
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