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Trevor Rogers on his epic comeback, Unique delivery, Orioles lost season · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We have Trevor Rodgers joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's good to be
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  Speaker 2: with you guys for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to some shop, dude, you are dealing. How fun
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  Speaker 1: has it been for you during these last couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: It's been been a lot of fun, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just really just getting back to, you know, the way
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  Speaker 2: that I've always thought that I could throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: consistently and just you know, help my team and help
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  Speaker 2: this organization win every time I'm out there. So it's
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of fun here recently.
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  Speaker 3: Did you think it was gonna happen right away when
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  Speaker 3: you went over to the Orioles last year?
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  Speaker 4: When you get.
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  Speaker 3: Traded over, you're like, perfect, I'm the guy that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take this Orioles team to the Promised Land. And it
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  Speaker 3: didn't happen right away. Did you think it was going
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  Speaker 3: to like make that change or was the transition from
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  Speaker 3: the Marlins to the Orioles tougher than what people think, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: you you're just traded, You just get different color cleats.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a lot tougher than what people realize.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: With Miami, we kind of had a really really bad
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  Speaker 2: year from the previous year, and you know, they were
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  Speaker 2: going in a different direction, and you know, again traded
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  Speaker 2: to a first place team and the al least probably
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  Speaker 2: one of the best divisions in baseball, just put a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of unwanted pressure on myself. I just thought I
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  Speaker 2: had to go out there and throw a score of
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  Speaker 2: outing every single time out. And I kind of went
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  Speaker 2: the opposite direction, and you know, you know, got sent down.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, looking back now and where I'm at now,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a blessing in disguise. Really really
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  Speaker 2: had to take kind of a good, long, hard look
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  Speaker 2: at myself and make some changes if I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: play this game. You know that I love for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, and I think it was the best decision
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  Speaker 2: at the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, adversity, man, it's a tough pill to swallow, but
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  Speaker 5: at the same time, once you come out of it,
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  Speaker 5: you understand, you know why, and you know what the
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  Speaker 5: purpose was. But my question to you for this oriole team, now,
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  Speaker 5: what's going to get them back over the hump?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a really good organization, a really
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  Speaker 5: good team. I've I've talked about it all the time.
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  Speaker 5: I know the injuries are mounting up but what can
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  Speaker 5: get them back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. I I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: the lack of talent. I'll put our lineup against every
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  Speaker 2: lineup in baseball and we'll have a really good chance
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  Speaker 2: avoiding that whatever day it is. I think probably the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing is all of you guys have heard it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't lose or you can't win a division in
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  Speaker 2: April and May, but you can lose it. I think
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  Speaker 2: we just had such a slow start this year that
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  Speaker 2: you know, we got in such a big hole and.
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  Speaker 4: It was just really tough for us to climb out of.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I think all of us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're pretty pretty young team, very talented team, but I
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  Speaker 2: think we're gonna have to make that next step as
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  Speaker 2: far as you know, putting our big boy pants on.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with a lot of the veterans we're trade
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  Speaker 2: away at the deadline this year, and we still have
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  Speaker 2: a really solid young course. I think we're all gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to make that next step going forward and just
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  Speaker 2: knowing that we don't want this to happen next year
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  Speaker 2: and really just putting in the work the rest of
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  Speaker 2: this year and going into the offseason and really just
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  Speaker 2: try to maintain the culture that they've built.
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  Speaker 4: Here the past two years going forward.
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  Speaker 3: Do you hear that from other guys? Do you hear
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  Speaker 3: that from other guys in the locker room? I know,
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  Speaker 3: pitchers and position players don't necessarily mix all the time,
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  Speaker 3: but you're all young guys who are pushing hopefully towards
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  Speaker 3: the same goal. But do you hear guys talk about that, like,
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  Speaker 3: screw this year, We're gonna go out and win. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to get back to what we were and the
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  Speaker 3: expectation that everybody had for us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I could definitely say some guys are,
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  Speaker 2: you know, say how it is pissed off the way
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  Speaker 2: this year is gone because it's not the standard of
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  Speaker 2: Orioles baseball. We expect a lot more. We expect to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, compete in the toughest division in baseball and
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  Speaker 2: and be up there where the you know, the Blue Jays,
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox are at this year and even the Yankees. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: guys aren't happy about it, but you know, you got
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  Speaker 2: to accept where we are and make the best of
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  Speaker 2: the situation this year and really just play our asses
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  Speaker 2: off the rest of this year and going into next year,
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  Speaker 2: just to make sure this this feeling, you know, playing
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  Speaker 2: coming into September and not playing meaningful baseball doesn't happen again.
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  Speaker 3: Who gets the most pissed off? I feel like watching
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  Speaker 3: the watching the games, I feel like one guy has
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more of a temper than other guys.
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  Speaker 3: But who gets the most pissed off? And we'll call
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  Speaker 3: guys out? And I'm not saying call guys out in
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  Speaker 3: the sense that some people think like good constructive, like
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  Speaker 3: let's get it going boys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if some guys are better at hiding
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  Speaker 2: it than others, but I mean everyone from top down.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Gunner's very passionate, Wes Westbrook's very passionate, Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: I mean addly Mounie. I mean, it keeps going on,
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  Speaker 2: even the starting rotation. You know, they're not happy the
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  Speaker 2: way this season has gone. The coaching staff isn't But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can look at two ways. You can
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  Speaker 2: moan and groan about how the season is not gone
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  Speaker 2: the way we wanted, or we can make the best
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  Speaker 2: of the opportunity ahead of us and keep playing hard,
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  Speaker 2: meaningful baseball, playing for each other each and every day
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  Speaker 2: until the last game is said, and done. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: guys aren't happy, but you know they use that to
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  Speaker 2: their advantage. You know, we got a lot of intense
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  Speaker 2: guys that love playing the game, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: really just fun watching watching those guys compete every day.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Trevor, let's go back to the trade for a moment.
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  Speaker 1: So you get moved from the Marlins, and they weren't
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  Speaker 1: really in contention. Of course, Oils are looking to do damage.
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  Speaker 1: They make the playoffs last year, and it was a
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  Speaker 1: battle for you to get back to where you are now,
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  Speaker 1: and now you're thriving. Did you look at the trade
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of put extra on yourself and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they gave up some pretty good players here, they're starting
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  Speaker 1: caliber players. One has become an All Star and Kyle Sowers, Like,
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  Speaker 1: was anything like that on your mind? And also, just
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  Speaker 1: take me through the trade in general, moving over from
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  Speaker 1: Miami to Baltimore and what changed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really think about it at the time,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, I was so worried, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: got to have results, got to do this, got to
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  Speaker 2: do that. And when I got traded over and I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't doing what I knew that I could do, for
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  Speaker 2: this organization. And I saw what Stours and Norby were doing.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've obviously played in Miami for four years.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a very hit or friendly park. And to
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  Speaker 2: see what those guys were doing this, like, holy cow,
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  Speaker 2: that's impressive. So it put a lot of unwanted pressure
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  Speaker 2: as far as like, oh, I got to make sure
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  Speaker 2: this this trade wasn't a bust, and and and just
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  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. You know, just a lot
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  Speaker 2: of outside noise that I was listening to that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've made a better adjustment this year just tossing all
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  Speaker 2: that out. My bubble is really small, so yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: saw that and really kind of just changed my mindset
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  Speaker 2: and outlook on this year, you know, just controlling what
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  Speaker 2: I can control and really just go out and execute pitches.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, just and I've said it again, I'll
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  Speaker 2: say it again, just showing what the organization, uh, just
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  Speaker 2: show them what I can do.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, KP.
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  Speaker 3: It's gotta be trust. It's got to be trust because
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  Speaker 3: you sound like your mindset is just completely different. Because
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  Speaker 3: if you look back at your triple A numbers from
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  Speaker 3: this year, nobody would have expected this take us through that,
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  Speaker 3: Take us through that because some people look, some people
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  Speaker 3: have never played. Look solely at oh yeah, look at
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  Speaker 3: his triple A numbers. There's no way he's gonna do well.
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  Speaker 3: Talk through that in a mental standpoint, but also in
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  Speaker 3: like the execution of it actually out on a big
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  Speaker 3: league mount.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that people outside of the
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  Speaker 2: game don't know that you gotta be honest, it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to be locked in and stay locked in for
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  Speaker 2: triple A starts because you know, you be in the
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  Speaker 2: big leagues for a couple of years and then you
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  Speaker 2: get sent down. I mean, win or lose in triple A,
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  Speaker 2: you don't really really care.
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  Speaker 4: You just want to get back to the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean you want to perform, and you want
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  Speaker 2: to win because that's part of the performance.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just it's really hard to get.
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  Speaker 2: Locked in, and you know, the adrenaline isn't there. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a couple of thousand people in the stands instead
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  Speaker 2: of you know, forty thousand. It's just it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: as more as much as big league games do. But
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  Speaker 2: you also, you know, you can't let that be an
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  Speaker 2: excuse and for whatever reason, I've always I've always struggled,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's rehab outings or you know, getting options of pitching,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, it's just it's hard to see what
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  Speaker 2: the guy's approaches are down in Triple A because you
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  Speaker 2: know they're just they haven't really found their approach yet,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they're just swinging and it seems like
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  Speaker 2: every ball is falling. So you know, it's always been
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  Speaker 2: tough for me to kind of, you know, make that
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  Speaker 2: adjustment down there.
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  Speaker 4: But you know I was.
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  Speaker 2: I got called up for that double header in Boston
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  Speaker 2: in May and made the most of it.
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  Speaker 4: And the rest is history.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, what about moving forward? Is there something
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  Speaker 3: that you sit here and you go, Okay, you're thirteen
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  Speaker 3: starts right now in the big leagues are a freaking elite.
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  Speaker 3: Let alone August, You've only give it up a run
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  Speaker 3: each start. Like, moving forward, not just September, but moving
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  Speaker 3: forward to next year. Are there things that you did
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  Speaker 3: this past off season to get yourself ready that you're like, dang,
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  Speaker 3: if I get a whole off season of that, where
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  Speaker 3: can I get to what level? Can I truly get
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  Speaker 3: to back to another All Star Game? That level that
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  Speaker 3: you were when you first broke into the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it goes back to, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: the very basic stuff, you know, just lower body strength,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of low back injuries, and just stuff that
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  Speaker 2: was limiting my ability to you know, be as strong
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  Speaker 2: as I could. I mean, there are starts where my
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  Speaker 2: back hurts so bad that you know, I just had
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  Speaker 2: to hold my breath to make sure it didn't it
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  Speaker 2: didn't hurt when I released the ball, so that that happens,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you just try to be smarter in
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  Speaker 2: the weight room.
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  Speaker 4: And my version of being smarter at.
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  Speaker 2: The time was, you know, just stop stop lifting and
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  Speaker 2: just try to be as healthy as I can. What's
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  Speaker 2: the downfall was is I kind of got I lost
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  Speaker 2: all my strength. So that was like the big thing
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  Speaker 2: when I went over the drive line is they showed
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  Speaker 2: me the graph of where my strength was compared to
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  Speaker 2: like the big league average, and I mean there's probably
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  Speaker 2: that big of a gap between where I was and
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  Speaker 2: where the big.
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  Speaker 4: League average was. So that was the big thing.
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  Speaker 2: Get my my lower body strength back, and then just
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  Speaker 2: fixing up a couple of mechanical cues that I've kind
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  Speaker 2: of built over the past.
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  Speaker 4: Couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Just bad habits, and we really knocked those two things
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  Speaker 2: out and it's been it's been really good this year.
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  Speaker 2: So really just this coming off season, really focusing on
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  Speaker 2: that even more, and in a couple of small other
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  Speaker 2: details as well.
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  Speaker 3: Like can you go back to what you're saying about
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  Speaker 3: drive line, your your your strength was below oh big
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  Speaker 3: league average for your lower body? Is that what she said?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you played Was that your fifth big league
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  Speaker 3: season when you found this out?
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  Speaker 4: Yep? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: How was this not found before? We're always I'm always taught.
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  Speaker 3: I'm always intrigued by organizations that that are ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the curve, behind the curve. You had to go to
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  Speaker 3: a third party outside of an organization to find this out.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like if you had been given this
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  Speaker 3: information before, you would have at least brought that back up.
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  Speaker 3: If not, Based on what like I'm hearing from you,
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  Speaker 3: it seems like you're super competitive, you probably would have
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  Speaker 3: gone twenty percent over the league average. But do you
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  Speaker 3: feel like this is like it was almost wasted time
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  Speaker 3: that you didn't know this before.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a good question. I So when I first
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  Speaker 2: had my first back injury the end of twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: I came back in twenty two and the velocity was
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  Speaker 2: still there. I think it was the repetitive back injuries
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  Speaker 2: and the repetitive you know, my back just shows that crap.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like the slow regression of you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's just completely knock this out lower body wise, Let's
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  Speaker 2: do a couple of movements that feel good, because that's
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  Speaker 2: what matters. We just want to keep you on the
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  Speaker 2: field and go from there. I try not to have
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  Speaker 2: any regrets because that's part of the story, that's part
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  Speaker 2: of the you know, what my career is, and I've
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  Speaker 2: always taken it as you know, I've learned throughout the way,
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  Speaker 2: every step through this journey. But I do I do
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  Speaker 2: think sometimes, you know, if if I had to do
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  Speaker 2: it over again, I would have gone sooner. But everything
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  Speaker 2: works out for a reason. I think the stars aligned
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  Speaker 2: and I went at the perfect time. And I'm just
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  Speaker 2: happy that we found the issue and we were able
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  Speaker 2: to tackle it. You know, if there wasn't a problem
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  Speaker 2: and they couldn't find a problem, might be probably in
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  Speaker 2: a lot worse spot.
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  Speaker 4: Than than I was.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just glad that there was a problem and
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  Speaker 2: we were able to attack it and resolve it.
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  Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about your arm
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  Speaker 5: angle too as well. You know, I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 5: a problem. You kind of got that lower arm angle
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  Speaker 5: for a bigger picture. You know, bum Gardner did kind
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  Speaker 5: of the same thing, but he had that longer release.
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  Speaker 5: Can you talk a little bit about that. Did you
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  Speaker 5: develop that over time or was that just the natural
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  Speaker 5: way that you threw the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a natural way that I threw the ball before.
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  Speaker 2: This was when I was a lot younger, before I
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  Speaker 2: even saw video. I thought I was I was kershaw.
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  Speaker 2: I was way up here over the top, and they
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  Speaker 2: saw the video and I was way out here. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh crap, Okay, that's not exactly what I felt.
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  Speaker 2: But Phil versus real, right, So that's that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: always how I threw the baseball. So yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where it came from or it was just a
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  Speaker 2: natural way of throwing the baseball, but yeah, that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of always how. It's how it's been, all right, what
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  Speaker 2: do you do in your free time? What do you
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  Speaker 2: do when you're not dominating big league hitters?
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, I got I got I got two
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  Speaker 3: hours to kill, I got two hours of kill in
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  Speaker 3: this city or you know, we got an off day.
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  Speaker 3: What's what's Trevor going to besides hitting lower lower body?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been My wife has been a lot better,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: trying to get me out and trying new restaurants.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm very playing James.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me your burger, give me, give me something,
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  Speaker 2: give me shoot, give me ramen noodles.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been better at, you know, expanding my palate
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Big, big lego guy, a big lego guy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I love legos. We'll build him in the off season
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  Speaker 2: all the time. And I love to go and read,
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  Speaker 2: so kind of just those four things. I don't really
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  Speaker 2: do a whole lot outside of that pretty boring guy,
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  Speaker 2: So I just try to keep it simple.
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  Speaker 3: Really wait wait, wait, wait, nuts, that's not boring. First
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: of all, did you did you have you gotten sick
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: eating anything that she's had you eat? And do you
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: glue your legos together? Because he's not here today. Aj
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Prazinski is huge into legos and he's he is lord business.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: He Yeah, Aj is normally normally here where Todd is.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Phil is my guy today, but he glues his together
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and I think that is like communist.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's a little crazy. I'd never even thought
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: about that. That that's I don't think I have the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: patience to glue them. If they fall apart, then they
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: fall apart. I think I need to do a better
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: job of building them. But uh, but as far as
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the food food goes, I mean, shoot, I grew up
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: on taco bell, So I don't think anything's gonna get
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: this stomach get this stomach upset.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So stomach is still wait. I totally just realized this
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: as we're getting towards the end of the conversation. Do
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know who we spoke to on this show yesterday?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: We had a guest on this show who you know
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: pretty well, Like, I think you're related to him, Cody Ross. Yeah, dude,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: how crazy is this? We mostly have current players on,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: especially during the season. We're at a tournament in Alabama
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and I was just looking because I know you played
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: ball in New Mexico. And we asked Cody best player
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ever out of New Mexico, and he brought up Alex Bregman,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, I should ask him this question.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And then I look and it says his cousin Cody
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: played for nine to one teams. I'm like, what, wait,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: so Cody's your cousin.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's my cousin.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So his dad and my mom's mom or brother and sister,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: so I think that second cousins or something like that.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he was. He was big for me growing up.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to be him, you know, coming
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: from the same hometown and just seeing everything that he accomplished.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: So he was definitely big for me growing up.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Dude, that is crazy.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I mean we're on every single day and we've had
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Cody on one other time a few years ago. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. So what's the new Mexico baseball scene?
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Like, let's finish with that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, there haven't been many players that have come
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: out and been stars like yourself and Bragman and obviously
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Cody when he was playing. So what's the scene like there.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very you know, underrated.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's some teams in Albuquerque, Le Cueva, El Dorado, Cleveland,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: especially Le Cueva. They were I mean I hated playing
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: them because they were so good. I think at one point,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: maybe twenty years ago, they're national champions for all of
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: high school baseball, so you know, they're just a powerhouse
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: every year.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: And then you and him and NMSU.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Kyle Bradish actually told me in spring training that he
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: went to NMSU, so that was that was pretty cool.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So you know, they're just pumping out really good college
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: talent and definitely wouldn't be surprised if there's more high
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: school talent coming up in the in the next couple
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: of years.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Very cool.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: We all have to do it what Cody does because
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I know Cody's big, you know, and tries to you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: mentor anybody that's coming from from New Mexico. And I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: know he was pretty tight with pregnant and obviously tight
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: with you given the family ties. So that's really cool. Trevor,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: awesome conversation. Thanks thanks for joining us, Keep doing your thing.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Appreciate the time.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. I enjoyed it.