Latest / The CFL Outsiders / The CFL Outsiders S02/E22 Tre's Just Living His Best Clean Jersey Life
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- 0:36Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:42I remain as always your 100 % unbiased, completely impartial and slightly bittersweet co-host, Oldman Shoutingatclouds Joining me this week as usual is GT.
- 0:58Playoffs, baby, playoffs.
- 1:00Yes.
- 1:01And MJ.
- 1:03I am thrilled to announce that I still have to juggle two sports in October.
- 1:10Go Blue Jays!
- 1:11Yes.
- 1:12So the J's are still going?
- 1:14Yes, they won last night, game seven.
- 1:17So they're off to play the Dodgers.
- 1:19so they've made it through the round.
- 1:20Yeah, last time I don't follow, of course.
- 1:23And last I heard it was three, two again.
- 1:25They were down three, two.
- 1:26So good for them.
- 1:28So is this the, uh, what would they call it then?
- 1:31The conference finals or whatever?
- 1:33Is this next one's the series after this?
- 1:35is the World Series they're going to be playing starting on Friday.
- 1:39Well this is the World Series they're in.
- 1:41Hey, well, go Jays!
- 1:43since 93.
- 1:43Here we go.
- 1:46Yeah, probably, I'll probably have to watch again.
- 1:49Probably the first J's game I've watched since 93.
- 1:52There you go.
- 1:53This is funny.
- 1:54We have two people that don't care.
- 1:56I can't believe it.
- 1:59Or at least weren't following it.
- 2:01But I did say, I did say to my wife earlier, it will be a short broadcast tonight.
- 2:06It won't be that long.
- 2:07We don't have much to talk about, just the games.
- 2:09And she said to me, no, MJ will want to talk about the Blue Jays.
- 2:13Don't worry.
- 2:13uh
- 2:17the rundown, you can be as creative as you want, MJ, getting all it in.
- 2:21Well, just that they were down and it looked like they were going to lose and it was really sad and then they got two guys on and then George Springer came up and he's had a
- 2:38knee injury and he's been battling through and he looked pretty rough and I was actually wondering why he was even still playing and then he hit a three run shot and they went up.
- 2:49And then Hoffman, well you guys don't care but some people might care.
- 2:54Jeff Hoffman is the closer this year and he is, what's the word, streaky at best?
- 3:00So I think I lost 10 years of my life watching him try to close that game out but they did it.
- 3:05Ha
- 3:06Well good.
- 3:07Good, good, good.
- 3:08And there's more to look forward to.
- 3:10Yes.
- 3:11Yes.
- 3:12This has been your mini episode of the MBL Outsiders.
- 3:16Yes.
- 3:16Okay, well, unfortunately I have some less great news to do because we've got to go to the fantasy update and I'm afraid there's no joy in Mudville here.
- 3:27The Cinderella run is over, took it right to the final, but Adam beat me 122.5 to 110.8.
- 3:35So congratulations to Adam Stewart from the Canadian football countdown.
- 3:40Well played.
- 3:42Myself, I'm kind of of two minds because the emotional side of me is people always say I'm way too hard on myself and you get a job done or you don't and I didn't get the job done.
- 3:52So there's that part saying, yeah, came up short.
- 3:56So the more intellectual side, I do know that really if you're going to be healthy, it's you don't worry too much about external competition.
- 4:03It's internal.
- 4:04How well are you doing?
- 4:05Are you doing the best you can?
- 4:06And I have to say, I'm not unhappy about the team I picked it.
- 4:11In the end it came down, we picked uh four of the same players, so those were out, and both of our lower cost players, we each had two lower cost players, I actually beat him by
- 4:21about a point or two on that, but in our flex we both went running backs, and I thought Rankin would break a few long ones and he didn't, and he had Diedrich Mills from Calgary.
- 4:31So, well played by Adam there.
- 4:35I had Mills as my running back.
- 4:37I didn't pick rank him this week.
- 4:39I just thought BC had been playing well enough that I didn't have him and I was glad I didn't.
- 4:45Well, it came down to, I built the team so I had 15,000 left to pick my flex and I could go with anybody that I wanted.
- 4:53And I I didn't feel great about any other receivers that I knew they were going to do well.
- 4:58Since Olivera was against the Saskatchewan defense, even though they had backups in, thought I don't want to go that way.
- 5:03So it really came down to Butler Mills or Rankin.
- 5:08Right.
- 5:08So who was your number one running back then if you used that as a flex?
- 5:13Well, he was my flex because I'd already gone cheapo on my two running backs.
- 5:17Yeah, I went cheap on both of them.
- 5:21I went with Mario Andersson because he was starting for Saskatchewan, which got me like two point five points, but Adam had him too, so that didn't hurt.
- 5:30And then I went with Horvath for BC hoping he'd get in and he did pop in and picked up about five point three points or something.
- 5:37So anyway, you said you went with Mills.
- 5:39How did you do overall?
- 5:41I did okay, was 113.6 or something in that range.
- 5:46had Rourke as my captain, so that worked out well.
- 5:51I had Mills as my running back.
- 5:54I went with Choquette as my cheapie.
- 5:56My big concern going into the week was who was gonna play the entire game?
- 6:01Because that's the reason I didn't pick some guys, because I felt like, they're not even gonna play the whole game probably, depending on how it plays out.
- 6:11So that's the reason I went with Rourke rather than Vernon Adams.
- 6:15And I kind of, you know, that paid off to some extent.
- 6:18And yeah, that's so I didn't go with a lot of Saskatchewan guys because I felt like, yeah, no, they were going to be playing B and C players.
- 6:26But my receivers didn't, I didn't do so great with receivers.
- 6:30That's where I lost it.
- 6:33Yeah, well, and you still did better than I did there overall.
- 6:38So not so bad.
- 6:40How about you, m
- 6:41I had 155.6.
- 6:44Yay!
- 6:45Wow!
- 6:46have got to get in the league next year.
- 6:47You're kicking all our butts every week.
- 6:49Wow.
- 6:50So you had Nathan.
- 6:52I had the Stamps defense, had Alexander as my captain, my running backs I picked Horvath and Scott, and then I had Mack and Hatcher as my receivers and Butler was my flex.
- 7:07I see where the points came from.
- 7:09An excellent lineup.
- 7:11Wow, yeah.
- 7:12We're gonna have to talk.
- 7:13I will just say I cannot take all the credit because my kid helps me pick these every week.
- 7:17So that's why they're always aloe wet heavy.
- 7:22You're a lot you're allowed to fuck to phone a friend Yeah, but no it's that like I said, that's great You guys will really have to think about next year join in the actual podcast
- 7:32league and maybe the two of you'll be in the final with scores like that but
- 7:37yeah, I looked at Alexander but he was one of those guys that I thought he's not going to play the whole game.
- 7:42So I didn't take him for that.
- 7:43That was one of you know, and it was like, he can rack up a lot of yards, but I thought he'd play the first half at best.
- 7:49I didn't think he was going to play the whole game.
- 7:51I was much like you.
- 7:52Like I didn't, I picked the Ottawa defense because they were cheapest.
- 7:56And then other than that, everybody I had, I think, let me think through this a little bit.
- 8:01Yeah.
- 8:02Cause I had Horvath in there and then I had Hatcher and McGuinness in
- 8:07So by the time Saturday night or Friday night was done, had only my defense left to play.
- 8:12And it was like you said, I was trying to go for the teams that had something to play for.
- 8:18Anyway, that's done for this year.
- 8:19will, if anybody cares, I will do one more Old Man Plays CFL Fantasy this Friday to finish off the season and just let things go.
- 8:28But hey, like I said, everybody, thanks to all of the league that played, it was a lot of fun and I had to get the Twitter account for X or whatever it is for communication.
- 8:38So there's been some good trash talking there.
- 8:40Lots of fun.
- 8:42But anyway, moving on, because we don't have a lot of news items.
- 8:46So, MJ, you were saying that the aloettes did some re-signings.
- 8:51So good news for Alouette fans.
- 8:55Alouettes have re-signed Jason Moss and Danny Machocha for two year extensions.
- 9:01Danny Machocha has been there since 2020.
- 9:04And honestly, thought Jason Moss has been, he's only been there since 2023.
- 9:08I surely thought he would have been there just as long, but he hasn't.
- 9:12So this franchise, they are doing some great things there.
- 9:18We can talk about it in the game, but they sent seven busloads of people to Ottawa for that game.
- 9:24And honestly, it sounded like a home game because they all had their airhorns.
- 9:30But this is great news for Alouettes.
- 9:34so good job, Danny and Jason.
- 9:36They're just they're doing great things.
- 9:38Yeah, I see that.
- 9:39thought that I read that Matosha is there through 29 and Moss is through 28.
- 9:45So that's both.
- 9:47Yeah, those are both really good signings.
- 9:49And it's funny because when Matosha got hired, I remember back on the Alouettes fan site and it was like nobody wanted them.
- 10:01They felt like he had stabbed the previous regime and had been backhanding and doing everything while he was on the radio and while he was at University of Montreal and just,
- 10:11you know, everything in the background to try to get the job.
- 10:16now he's turned out to be, you know, to do a really, I've done a really, really good job.
- 10:21So yeah, they're both important signs.
- 10:24I was also impressed that
- 10:25It came the week after Saskatchewan lined theirs up.
- 10:30So the best two run organizations right now and the best two teams probably in the league have both signed their GM and their coach to extensions and are pretty set in both of
- 10:41those places for the next few years.
- 10:43So that shows some stability and why those teams are where they are right now.
- 10:48definitely the continuity helps and it is hard to get somebody good so when you find them hold on to them.
- 10:54And what else did we...
- 10:55Oh, right, you were mentioning the Herm Harrison Award, G.T.
- 10:59Yeah, I'm sure that each team has an award that's like this, but of course, because I'm on the stamp site regularly, the Herm Harrison Award in Calgary is actually voted by the
- 11:12players.
- 11:12So, this is an award given by their peers.
- 11:17So, it's really important in Calgary to whoever wins it.
- 11:21And it's given to the player that exudes and shows
- 11:25leadership both on and off the field as well as charitable works throughout the city.
- 11:31And so it's really a prestige and a work of pride for the team.
- 11:36And to get Moncrieff to win it this year I thought was pretty impressive because it's usually won by guys that have been there a few years that have had time to establish
- 11:45themselves in the city as well as on the team as a leader.
- 11:49And for him to come in this first year and be able to do all of that I thought pretty impressive.
- 11:55And, you know, like he even said in his, in the interview that he did, he's, you know, two years ago, everybody said I was done.
- 12:01Like they thought I was done.
- 12:03here, this means a lot to me.
- 12:06He said this means a lot to him because of that.
- 12:08And the fact that, you know, the team took a chance on him and then he decided to really go for it and to step up this year.
- 12:15So, and I think he has both on the field for sure.
- 12:18And it looks like he has off the field too.
- 12:20And I would, and as I said at the beginning, I would assume most teams have this type of award.
- 12:25I just don't know what the other ones are.
- 12:27So if anybody can find out and wants to tell us, that'd be great.
- 12:30Okay, you're probably right.
- 12:31I'm just not sure.
- 12:33And along those same lines, I'm pulling a little bit of an audible here.
- 12:36MJ was next up on the show run, but just before we went to air, I found something else that's similar to this that I thought we might as well talk about.
- 12:43The awards for basically the stuff above and beyond the on-field play.
- 12:48Last week we talked about the Jake Guaduar nominees and that's the award goes, it's for Canadian players and...
- 12:54same sort of criteria and this week they've announced the Tom Pate Award which is again very similar but available or open to any player in the league.
- 13:04So they say that it's presented annually in recognition of outstanding sportsmanship, dedication to the and significant contribution to teams, community, and the players
- 13:15association.
- 13:17So that
- 13:17They've got this year's nominees out and I think again this one will be given out at the awards just before the Grey Cup but I'll run through them west to east again.
- 13:25BC Lions was Andrew Pearson, Calgary Stampeders Dominique Rhymes Edmonton Elks was Niles Morgan, the Ryders was Micah Johnson, the Bombers had Brady Olivera, Tiger Cats was Kenny
- 13:40Lawler, Argonauts was Anthony Lanier the third, or the second sorry.
- 13:46Ottawa Red Blacks with Tyrone Verde and Jeffrey Canton-Arcou for the Montreal Alouettes.
- 13:54So good luck to them all and again these are these rewards are nice to see.
- 13:59It's good to see people giving back.
- 14:00If just sorry, just one quick thing there.
- 14:04You mentioned it was Arcou Canton Arcou in Montreal.
- 14:08Was he not the nominee last week as well out of Montreal?
- 14:12He was, I believe he was the Tom Pate one.
- 14:13He's the only one that, that I recognize there.
- 14:16I don't think Brady was the, uh, good R one as well, but yeah.
- 14:20so that's pretty impressive that he's up for both the guitar and the pay.
- 14:25That's pretty impressive.
- 14:27Yes.
- 14:27And especially with the way he plays.
- 14:29He played, you know, that was, was not the most awe inspiring game on the weekend, but he was playing well in it.
- 14:35But moving on from there, MJ is going to mention too that, basically we're four weeks before the great cup and we know who's playing at halftime.
- 14:44I don't pay attention to music in the last 40 years, so I have no idea how relevant it is.
- 14:48I'll let MJ talk to you.
- 14:51this is funny because they did the announcement on E!
- 14:54Talk and they were like, it's on Crave and CTV.
- 14:57And I was like, I don't have cable.
- 15:01I don't have...
- 15:03It's like someone tell me who it is when you find out.
- 15:06So big, big announcement that Machine Gun Kelly is the halftime show.
- 15:12I'm gonna try and say nice things.
- 15:14I honestly don't know a lot about him.
- 15:17These are the things I know about Machine Gun Kelly.
- 15:20Here we go, ready?
- 15:21One, he called Eminem's underage daughter hot and Eminem buried him in a rap when Machine Gun Kelly was trying to be a rapper.
- 15:31So much so that he flipped over to pop and just like left an entire genre.
- 15:36And he's Megan Fox's boyfriend.
- 15:40They have a baby together.
- 15:42I'm just going to jump in because I got to say that's of all these people talking about it.
- 15:47That's the one thing that I hear consistently.
- 15:49Well, and he must be good because he's going out with Megan Fox.
- 15:52uh Unless she's going to be up performing with them.
- 15:56I don't see the value of that.
- 15:57mean...
- 15:58musical taste is a preference and I think he's popular except maybe not great at music but I mean it's a big get for the CFL.
- 16:14I don't know what are you guys' thoughts?
- 16:16Well, the first thing I thought was, is that the guy that's been washing the floor at the car wash all season in the commercials?
- 16:22And it is.
- 16:24As they come out of the door, come back into the commercials, that guy that's doing the dance with the broom at the car wash or whatever it is, that's him, I was told.
- 16:33I was like, oh, okay.
- 16:34I thought I was pretty good that I recognize that much at least.
- 16:38Secondly, I was like, okay, this is funny, but.
- 16:43Like I texted my 35-year-old, my youngest, and she said, I don't know who he is by his music.
- 16:49I only know who he is by who he dates.
- 16:52So there's that part.
- 16:54And I thought, okay, so that's that.
- 16:56And then I thought that I texted her back.
- 16:58Yeah.
- 16:58So this is the very first time that I can honestly say I've never heard of the Halftime Act.
- 17:04And so I'm officially old, you know.
- 17:09officially hit the mark where it doesn't matter anymore.
- 17:12you know, all the plus stuff that they've been playing is pure pop music.
- 17:17again, it's like going back to when people were really dismissive of the Black Eyed Peas, and yet the Black Eyed Peas was the biggest pop band, crossover band in the world at the
- 17:27time.
- 17:28this is the same sort of idea.
- 17:30You don't know who they are, but it doesn't mean they're not selling a lot of
- 17:33lot of music.
- 17:34And so somebody's watching and will be interested in watching to find out what it looks like.
- 17:40And yeah, I'll watch.
- 17:41I always watch.
- 17:42So, there you go
- 17:45Yeah, well I will be there, I doubt that I'll watch.
- 17:48The halftime is usually my chance to uh chat with some people that we have over and stuff like that.
- 17:53But yeah, mine was the same.
- 17:54I honestly, I heard the announcement, who?
- 17:58I hope he's a good choice from the people that they're trying to attract to the game, because they don't need us to be attracted to it, we're already there.
- 18:06Well, if you mean at the game itself, no, this will be, I think this is gonna be loudly received at the game as one of the poorer selections.
- 18:16I think the stadium will empty out.
- 18:18I think it will be the typical force all the dance teams out to the front of the stage and no one else will care.
- 18:26And there will be tons of shots of the dance teams because they won't be able to show the audience getting into it.
- 18:31But it will be good for television probably and it will be good for people
- 18:36whoever they're trying to attract on television because as somebody else said in one of the other pods, halftime is a television event.
- 18:42It's not about the game at all.
- 18:44So it doesn't really matter.
- 18:45The people that are at the game very rarely do they actually stay to watch it.
- 18:50Anyways, that's their 15 minute beer break.
- 18:52next year I'm gonna pay more attention to whose commercials I have to listen to all year.
- 18:57Because it was between him or like the, I wanna get drunk right now guy, right?
- 19:04Like those were our choice, those were the choices.
- 19:08then they made the right choice.
- 19:10Yeah, yeah, exactly and and like I said that that was what I was trying to say I hope it's someone that will bring in Bring the attention to the league that wouldn't normally be
- 19:19there.
- 19:19I have no idea but Anyway, that's about the news.
- 19:23So before just before we hop into the games.
- 19:25I'm just gonna do my Beg break a little bit early here
- 19:31Please if you're watching this, you're getting anything out of it, hit the subscribe button for us on YouTube, the pod catchers, on iTunes and all the rest of that.
- 19:40It really helps us out.
- 19:42We're starting to see the numbers grow up there.
- 19:44We're getting close to what our kind of goal was for the season, so that's good.
- 19:48And plus, likes and comments are easy and we started getting more, including this is where I said to you GT, don't know how much you'll follow up on it, but at
- 19:59strickphases was the username on YouTube that came in saying, wow, a printer jersey.
- 20:05Wrong team, unfortunately, but still pretty amazing.
- 20:09I may have to give a, think about putting a bet in and give the
- 20:13MJ's a run for their money.
- 20:14So who knows, you may see.
- 20:16So I will have to look for that comment on the YouTube broadcast from last week and get and see if I see what's happened there.
- 20:24I will do that.
- 20:24I will follow up.
- 20:25That's great.
- 20:26That's great.
- 20:27I just want to finish off.
- 20:29I just want to finish off one thing with the with the machine gun Kelly halftime thing because you mentioned it earlier, MJ, that, you know, there was it came out earlier in the
- 20:39day on that.
- 20:40I guess it was Wednesday or Thursday.
- 20:42that it was going to be announced, a big announcement coming on ET tonight on CTV and wherever else you watch it and so on, Crave, et cetera.
- 20:52And so the first time in I don't know how many years I decided I'd watch it.
- 20:56I'd see if I, you know, see who it is.
- 20:58I was interested to find out.
- 21:01It was one of the worst announcements I've seen.
- 21:03It was like 30 seconds in amongst the fashion show for
- 21:10the underwear girls.
- 21:11And then it was onto some woman that's selling her book.
- 21:15And then, by the way, the CFL has got MGK and then machine gun Kelly.
- 21:23And then it was next.
- 21:24and I thought, this is supposed to be your big announcement.
- 21:28This wasn't, you know, now they obviously sent it out as a press release as well because it was then on all the news stuff.
- 21:37I was like, if this is your partner on CTV, TSN, and this is supposed to be the entertainment, you could have at least got them to do a bit better than that.
- 21:47I really was disappointed in the way they handled the announcement on that particular show.
- 21:53I got to agree.
- 21:54They've not been good on execution lately on any of this stuff.
- 21:58I don't get it.
- 21:59And I know I'm living up to the name, the Oldman Shoutingatclouds but please put half the effort you put into making up new rules and actually marketing what you've got and who
- 22:10knows what could happen.
- 22:12out.
- 22:12Exactly.
- 22:13Yeah.
- 22:14Alrighty.
- 22:15But enough of that.
- 22:16That's my negative mini-ramp for today.
- 22:19We'll go on to the games and I'll take the first one because it was Saskatchewan 16 at Winnipeg 17 and there wasn't a whole lot to talk about.
- 22:28It was...
- 22:28uh
- 22:30Pages.
- 22:30Pages of stuff.
- 22:32I'll let you take most of them because I noticed.
- 22:38I noticed that basically it was, Winnipeg starters playing the Saskatchewan preseason lineup and winning on a walk off field goal.
- 22:46I don't know what that says.
- 22:48Is Winnipeg falling that far?
- 22:49Is Saskatchewan depth that good?
- 22:51I don't know, but it, it wasn't an exciting, terribly exciting game.
- 22:56The second half especially was listless.
- 23:00They went with Mair for three quarters from Saskatchewan and then put Cohen in for the last quarter and Winnipeg had their starters in and still just couldn't seem to go very
- 23:10far.
- 23:11to me the best thing about this whole game was the ad they did for World Vision where they talked about Brady Olivera and Sean Bain Jr.
- 23:19going to
- 23:20Africa in the offseason and working with providing wells and whatnot which was a real good feeling good story, but that was the best part of the game.
- 23:27about you guys anything more than that to say?
- 23:31I have two notes.
- 23:33One, the bombers are in trouble.
- 23:35Yeah
- 23:37They are in trouble and there was one touchdown each in the first quarter then Field Goals and punts and that was it so I am I know I only watched the highlight package from this
- 23:50and I'm actually quite happy I didn't spend my Friday night watching this But there was there was five teams this weekend guys there was five teams with had a QB as their top
- 24:02rusher So I'm not sure what was going on with running backs this weekend, but
- 24:07What a mess.
- 24:09Unfortunately Mills wasn't one of those.
- 24:11Damn it.
- 24:12No!
- 24:12Or Butler!
- 24:14Well, I...
- 24:14Rourke did tie.
- 24:16I have a question because I couldn't figure, I joined the game with seven minutes left in the first quarter.
- 24:21It was already seven all, so I missed the first quarter.
- 24:24Saskatchewan was just about to kick a field goal to make it 10 to seven at that point.
- 24:29That's where I joined the game.
- 24:31And then I left the game as the BC game uh started because we're into that weird part where the games overlap by half an hour.
- 24:38so I missed the end of the game and I didn't feel like I missed anything.
- 24:42So my only burning question is, what was with the purple jerseys that the Bombers coaching staff was wearing?
- 24:49Did they explain those at all?
- 24:54I didn't understand it.
- 24:55I couldn't figure out what it was because a lot of players and a lot of equipment people had the pink power for the breast cancer awareness.
- 25:05I saw a lot of that.
- 25:06it was for World Mental Health Day.
- 25:09was it?
- 25:10Okay, good.
- 25:11Okay, Well done.
- 25:12All right.
- 25:13Well that, you know...
- 25:15even better than if we know what it was about.
- 25:18Most specifically for Rett syndrome awareness, which so that's what they were up to.
- 25:23okay, if they, if, if they had broadcast that earlier in the game, I, I missed the first of the first few minutes.
- 25:29Okay.
- 25:30It wasn't just some weird thing.
- 25:31Yeah.
- 25:32Other than that, because it was that weird a game.
- 25:34It could have been for the bombers.
- 25:35They were that bad.
- 25:37They could have just got their colors wrong.
- 25:39They did everything else wrong.
- 25:40That was just.
- 25:41one of the worst football games I've watched the team play in, I don't know how long.
- 25:45They just stumbled and bumbled their way through it.
- 25:47At one point I said, I swore, I actually swore.
- 25:50said, you know, Jake Maher is going to win another one.
- 25:53He's doing absolutely nothing.
- 25:55This is a perfect Jake Maher game.
- 25:57He's not throwing pass more than seven yards.
- 26:00He's done absolutely nothing and somehow he's going to get credit for a win in this game.
- 26:04So thankfully he didn't, but I was just like, that's how bad I thought the,
- 26:09The bombers were, they were just horrible, just horrible.
- 26:16they hit.
- 26:16and won against somebody who passed 400 yards.
- 26:20Like what?
- 26:21I don't understand.
- 26:23Yeah, it's, it was a very bizarre game and yeah, Winnipeg seemed lifeless and just not like a team fighting for their playoff lives and even coaching decisions.
- 26:32Like there was one in, I think late in the second quarter where they were second and no third and about three yards and they put Strevler in to, to try and run a sneak on it that
- 26:45doesn't get close.
- 26:46know, just, just, I, yeah, I
- 26:49I did not get it and they seem that's how they seem to be going at it.
- 26:53I don't know that they would have won if Saskatchewan had left Maer in the whole time because he's not great, but he was starting to warm up.
- 27:00They did mention that just before he got pulled, he was 11 straight completions.
- 27:05So left him and they might riders might have won that.
- 27:07But it was obviously more important to see what the players could do.
- 27:10So I don't object.
- 27:13Just before I left the game, they said that Zach had 12 yards passing in the second half.
- 27:20So that was midway through the fourth quarter.
- 27:23He had had 12 yards passing in the second half.
- 27:27That's how bad it was.
- 27:28and by then all the backups were in the secondary and everything.
- 27:33The only starters that were playing was because there was no backups left to put in for them.
- 27:38Yeah.
- 27:40Oh, yeah.
- 27:41There was some goofy stuff.
- 27:42There really was.
- 27:43Yeah, there was just too much to talk about to replay everyone, but it was just a complete cluster.
- 27:50Complete cluster.
- 27:52yes.
- 27:53And the other thing I'll start throwing quick, it was, I'm just, I'm not sure what to think of Saskatchewan's kicking game, because Lauther missed one again, but okay, so
- 28:03you'll get that.
- 28:04But their new punter, he's a Jekyll and Hyde.
- 28:07I mean, he put two punts out of bounds inside the five yard line, which were absolutely fantastic.
- 28:13And then he ends up punting where it's going to go to the...
- 28:1630, 35 yard line and he lands it right in the middle of the field.
- 28:19So the returner's got whatever go he wants.
- 28:22It's just, I don't know how you can be that inconsistent.
- 28:25I was just gonna say, that's been the issue in in Ryderville all year and it continues to be.
- 28:31we'll see if kicking when it gets colder too, that ball is gonna feel different coming off of your foot.
- 28:36So we'll see.
- 28:38Well, yeah, and to tell you, like I said, the punting scares me more than the place kicking even, because you can kind of work around the place kicking.
- 28:46But if your punting isn't consistent, that's when you end up with something like you get pinned down on your own one and you figure I've got to get some yardage behind you and you
- 28:54manage to get out to the 25 or 30 and everything's good.
- 28:56And then your punter shanks one 15 yards and you're in the same bad spot.
- 29:00That's the stuff I'm afraid of.
- 29:03Anyway, MJ, we didn't give you a chance to jump in yet.
- 29:06just that the bombers are in trouble.
- 29:09And the riders special teams coordinator.
- 29:12Yeah, they, um, I will, I will say that this does look like it's trending towards where there's at least the possibility of, Winnipeg looks like they're going to end up in the
- 29:22playoffs going through the East.
- 29:24So there could be a Saskatchewan Winnipeg Grey Cup in Winnipeg, which would be the, all that the Heartland could ever wish for.
- 29:32I swear to God, if the Bombers somehow manage to win these kind of games, they managed to beat out Hamilton and Montreal.
- 29:39Stranger things have happened.
- 29:41If they, I swear if they manage to beat out Hamilton Montreal, there's gonna a lot of people losing a lot of money.
- 29:48Cuz I don't think the odds of that are gonna be very likely.
- 29:54Yes.
- 29:55Well, I'm here for it for the CFL chaos.
- 29:57And if nothing else, just to hear the, raging debate the week before the game about who should have the home team dressing rooms.
- 30:05Yeah.
- 30:07Okay, well it's not gonna happen, so we'll just move
- 30:12You
- 30:14I think that's been talked about longer than it needed to be to tell you the truth.
- 30:20And frankly, none of the games this weekend were really great at all.
- 30:26I thought the BC Edmonton one had a lot more potential, but why don't you tell us about that, MJ?
- 30:32Edmonton 24 at BC 37.
- 30:36Right, you got...
- 30:38In full disclosure I was at a concert on Friday night so I got home for 6 minutes left in the fourth this game.
- 30:46But I...
- 30:48You know, this just comes down to whether the Elks can get Rankin going or not.
- 30:53And they are going to live and die by Rankin.
- 30:56Rankin had 36 yards rushing and 35 yards receiving.
- 31:00Cody outrushed him.
- 31:01Again.
- 31:02So good job BC Defense, you had a plan and the Elks offense seemingly cannot scheme anything else.
- 31:12If Rankin doesn't run, they cannot figure out any other way to do anything.
- 31:19Rourke had a 70 yard run.
- 31:21Yes.
- 31:23Impressive.
- 31:24After the game it was so funny after the game He's like I uh have a lot of newfound respect for everyone who does the waggle Because he said he was gassed after running that
- 31:35far
- 31:35But just the Lions are just ticking along just nicely.
- 31:41Hatcher had a really great game.
- 31:43Butler had a pretty good game.
- 31:45Rourke had a great game.
- 31:47then so ends their playoff hopes.
- 31:50Had to text my mom condolences and she's just like, yeah, that's how it goes.
- 31:57And I'm like, right.
- 31:59So I don't know, Cody's contracts up, right?
- 32:03So we'll see what they do next year, but.
- 32:06You just never know.
- 32:07Meanwhile, Tre's just living his best clean Jersey life and...
- 32:12That's about it for the Elks.
- 32:14Yeah, there's going to be some stuff there for them to sort out in the off season.
- 32:18I, I got to say to me, this one, I didn't, I don't think the way it turned out that the Elk would have, would have won anyway, but I think the loss can be very much put down to a
- 32:29decision.
- 32:30The coach had kind of, I think kind of talked himself into.
- 32:32They were, the commentators were saying how Killam had said to them and, and they, he had emphasized that
- 32:40they might have to make some different decisions than you would normally make in a game.
- 32:44They might have to do something a little bit wild to get the win.
- 32:49they didn't really do anything too much different in the first half.
- 32:54In the second half, ended up, BC got a pick six for a touchdown to go up by seven points.
- 33:00And on their following drive, the Elks got down to I think about the BC 50 or so, third and 12.
- 33:08And instead of punting for field position and keeping it going that way, they decided to go for the third and 12.
- 33:14Didn't make the first down and it just seemed to take the wind out of the sails of their team.
- 33:21BC came and scored another quick touchdown and I felt like it was over.
- 33:25And I feel like without that decision, they could have stayed in it a lot longer.
- 33:28And if you look at some of the games Rankin's been in this year, it's been the late third, fourth quarter that he suddenly starts breaking those long runs.
- 33:36So.
- 33:38without Killam shooting themselves in the foot, in my opinion, they might have had a chance to win that.
- 33:44Yeah, felt to me like in the beginning, Edmonton actually had a pretty good shot.
- 33:49They came out and they were, they played a pretty strong 28 and a half minutes of the first half and were actually winning at that point in time, 10 to two.
- 34:01I was saying,
- 34:02BC's got to score before, they got to get some points before the half or else this game could get run away by Edmonton.
- 34:09If they get on a bit of a roll, they feel like it.
- 34:11It felt like that.
- 34:13And then all of a sudden it just, because BC was missing, it was almost like not like Winnipeg.
- 34:18They were not like terrible, but they were just missing and they weren't clicking quite right.
- 34:22Passes were just overthrown, just underthrown.
- 34:24Guys were dropping balls.
- 34:25It just wasn't going on.
- 34:27But then it was like,
- 34:30Nathan just went, yeah, okay, enough of this.
- 34:32And with a minute and a half left, drove the ball all the way down the field, scored the touchdown, scored the two-point conversion, and all of sudden it's tied at half.
- 34:42They came out in the second half and just went enough and just, you know, and that was it was over.
- 34:47they just were, they just did everything right in the second half.
- 34:51The time of possession in the first half was like 21 and a half minutes for
- 34:57for Edmonton in like nine minutes or something like that for BC.
- 35:02It was crazy.
- 35:03It really was how much they controlled the game.
- 35:05And yet it was tied at halftime and that tells you what's going on.
- 35:09And Cody threw three intercepts, you know, they kept saying his ties his number in the last number of games or whatever.
- 35:16He hadn't thrown one in 175 passes or something.
- 35:20And then he threw three in the second half.
- 35:22So, yeah, they were definitely trying to do what they could.
- 35:26But every time they got close, BC responded.
- 35:30They got down, they scored a touchdown to get it within 10.
- 35:33BC just scored two more to put it up by 21.
- 35:36It really was.
- 35:38They weren't playing with them, but they definitely were the better team and it showed.
- 35:44And BC looks really good right now.
- 35:47I must say, earlier in the year when I was not on the bandwagon and I thought they were pretty suspect and we were all waiting for Benavides to get fired, et cetera, et cetera,
- 35:58that defense has really come around and they're now looking pretty darn good.
- 36:03They're a team to worry about.
- 36:04They're definitely a team to worry about.
- 36:06The only thing they have to worry about is can Nathan play in the cold?
- 36:11He has not proven so far he can play in the cold in November.
- 36:14So that's the biggest test BC will have.
- 36:16Yeah, I'd give you that.
- 36:18Plus, I think there is something to the point that their defense looks like it's playing a lot better lately, but it's been a while since they've played a real powerhouse sort of
- 36:27team.
- 36:28So is the defense that much better or is it the competition that they've been having or a combination?
- 36:33I've got two things to mention just officiating wise.
- 36:36One, it really, really Steams my clams that they seem to have the replay center jump in on every offside or possible illegal procedure penalty Every holding one, they, we've got to
- 36:54have about a 30, 40 second delay while the
- 36:57replay centre confirms what was seen on the field.
- 37:00And yet this last week in this game here and in the Saskatchewan game against Toronto a week ago, there were two just absolutely egregious spots that took away two or three
- 37:10yards, should have been first downs and weren't, and crickets from the replay centre.
- 37:16In both cases, the coaches had to throw a challenge flag and won the challenge
- 37:20So if you're the replay center that's supposed to be in looking after these games and making sure they're fair, what the hell is the criteria when you ignore obvious things?
- 37:29Yeah, I don't know whether they were on a bathroom break or what, but they were not looking there because they should have just called that that one in the BC game Edmonton.
- 37:37That was a complete fiasco, complete fiasco.
- 37:41wasn't inches.
- 37:41It was yards.
- 37:43It was ridiculous.
- 37:44And, like I said, two weeks in a row, the officiating hasn't been great, but I also noticed though, that I like Ben Major as a ref.
- 37:52think he does a great job reffing love his communication and he, he took on a little bit of a new quirk this weekend.
- 37:57He was checking with the audience on the penalties.
- 38:00was about three of them where it was, especially if it was a longer explanation.
- 38:03Like, so the call is that the player was down by contact and it's the BC ball.
- 38:11Okay?
- 38:12And that okay was after.
- 38:13You mean we get a choice?
- 38:14Can we say no, that's not okay?
- 38:16Actually, no.
- 38:17We don't understand the mandate of the replay center.
- 38:20I don't think anyone does.
- 38:22the central mandate, I don't understand the criteria, I don't understand...
- 38:27Is it just me?
- 38:29Did I miss a communication at the beginning of the year of when they said they were going to override, when they were going to jump in?
- 38:36It just seems like there's no rhyme or reason to it.
- 38:40Yeah, I don't get it either.
- 38:42I mean, they talk about the fact that the officials will ask them to double check and it seems like they're doing that on the wrong Plays But I've also seen stuff where I've heard
- 38:51them say, well, they'll only get involved if it's player safety.
- 38:55They won't affect the outcome of the game unless it's player safety.
- 38:58But I've seen things where it's been like a close pass and it's called complete on the field.
- 39:03And then they come back and say, no, that's incomplete.
- 39:06You know, don't.
- 39:07no calling for it to be reviewed I don't know if anybody in the in the league and the the the call the replay center I don't know if anybody knows what they're supposed to be
- 39:15doing.
- 39:17I'm infuriated as a fan, can you imagine with how the players and coaches feel?
- 39:23Well, and I've got another big question about this next game for the officiating.
- 39:28So more to talk about here, or do we jump on to Montreal and Ottawa?
- 39:32No, we can go to Montreal,
- 39:34Thank you Montreal, Ottawa.
- 39:35yeah, so Montreal and Ottawa, Montreal 39, Ottawa 28, a lot that we can talk about with the game through it.
- 39:41But the one for me was a big play was a block punt by Montreal.
- 39:48And what the way the play turned out, the block came right up the middle.
- 39:53He did, he did get the ball, blocked it.
- 39:55And I think it went about the line of scrimmage, but went through the ball and just hammered the kicker.
- 40:02Yeah, I thought the same.
- 40:04season, they made a big deal of the fact that the rule had changed and you could not contact the kicker.
- 40:10Even if you had touched the ball anymore, that didn't absolve you.
- 40:14So unless they've changed it again and it's been quiet and we're just weren't told why I cannot understand why that's so obvious to the officials and you got the replay center and
- 40:26everybody, why are you not calling that penalty?
- 40:29Yeah, I thought the same thing on that.
- 40:31you I was like, did I miss something here?
- 40:34Because that sure is contacting the kicker as far as I know.
- 40:37Yeah, yeah, in fact, I think that would have been roughing from what I saw.
- 40:39But anyway, but there wasn't a lot more to this other than some excitement early when Alexander got sacked and hurt his elbow a couple of times, but then came back and looked
- 40:51to be okay.
- 40:52TSN kept panning to McLeod Bethel Thompson on the sideline.
- 40:56Yeah, he looked like he also had an elbow brace on though, so yeah.
- 41:07know, he was in the sixth game because of the bad elbows.
- 41:12Yes.
- 41:12And the other comment about this game, and again, it's probably the officiating stuff, but it is amazing.
- 41:18The calls that go against the people get called roughing the passer against Zach.
- 41:25That doesn't happen for anybody else because there were plays in this game where it was incidental stuff, but
- 41:32hits up on sacks or on on uh hits after as the throws going out there were at least three or four where one part or another got up and touched the helmets of the quarterbacks and
- 41:43yeah it's just football but you know that if that had been Zach and O'Shea would be screaming his head off and somehow they get that stuff i don't know
- 41:53Why don't you tell us what you thought about sort of the flow of the game?
- 41:57Because I haven't said much other than that Ottawa lost and I didn't like the officiating.
- 42:02I thought a couple things.
- 42:04thought number one, that Adams looked like he should have been playing more.
- 42:09He's going to start again as far as I know this week in Hamilton.
- 42:13So if he wins on the off chance he wins, Ottawa fans are going to lose their minds because it will be like, okay, so he's now played two games in a row and looks like he's a winner.
- 42:23Why hasn't he played even more all season long?
- 42:26And he did look pretty decent.
- 42:28He was throwing the ball with some zip.
- 42:29He played with enthusiasm.
- 42:31He made some smart decisions.
- 42:32Sure, he had three interceptions, but two of them weren't his fault.
- 42:36One of them was a tip ball and the other one, Hardy should have hung on to it when it was in his hands and then it was taken out and it was classified as an interception.
- 42:46So those really shouldn't have counted.
- 42:49And I, no, I just thought he kind of played well and
- 42:52Um, and then again, I wasn't sure why Davis Alexander was still in the game as late as he was.
- 42:58I couldn't figure that out.
- 42:59I know he's a tough and I know that they need, you know, they need to get them reps, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
- 43:04He's going, he hasn't played that much, you know, he's still a rookie or first year guy starter and so on.
- 43:12But at this stage of the game, he could have played half or three quarters at most of the game.
- 43:16I didn't think he had to play the whole game.
- 43:18I thought that was kind of weird.
- 43:19And then speaking of penalties and stuff that didn't get called.
- 43:23I was quite upset when there was a play where Sankey, it was first and goal for Ottawa on their six yard line and Montreal didn't have the proper personnel on the field.
- 43:37Sankey came across the line and pushed the guard and That gave Montreal a penalty.
- 43:45they got a penalty, but that gave them time to get their proper people on the field.
- 43:50I was okay with the first push on the guard.
- 43:53That was like to cause the penalty.
- 43:55That was a time stop.
- 43:56That was I got that.
- 43:57But then he went after that and he smacked the center while the center still wasn't aware.
- 44:03And that to me should have been roughly not
- 44:08Yeah.
- 44:10Yes!
- 44:10Ottawa should have got the ball on first and one or on the one yard line instead they were going from the six and on the very next play Adams throws one of those interceptions that
- 44:20he should that was legitimate at the one yard line to Montreal there should they should not have been in a passing situation that should have been on the one yard line I I don't
- 44:30know how he got away with the second push that should have been two separate penalties not one
- 44:36agreed.
- 44:37That was re- that was ridiculous.
- 44:40Yeah, nobody talked about it on the broadcast.
- 44:43was just like, oh well.
- 44:46Yeah.
- 44:47Yeah.
- 44:48Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 44:50Yeah.
- 44:51There are times where I think he goes over the line.
- 44:54What do I have?
- 44:57Adams was A, was their top rusher.
- 45:02B, he had 44 pass attempts.
- 45:06That's not okay Tommy Condell.
- 45:08He is a rookie QB, 44 pass attempts, stand back had 7 carries.
- 45:15Come on, come on.
- 45:17That's ridiculous.
- 45:18I was not impressed about that.
- 45:20The red, the red blacks defense actually played really well.
- 45:24And they were the only of the three.
- 45:27And then I have a note saying that the red blacks ruined everything for themselves with dumb penalties.
- 45:33Because something good would really happen and they get down to the red zone and they do something stupid and just wreck it and I'm like, oh, this is infuriating.
- 45:43As I said, it sounded like a home game for the Alouettes because the air horns traveled.
- 45:50And they clearly snuck them all in and you can't bring a sign in to a stadium, but you can bring an air horn.
- 45:56What else I have?
- 45:57Maltose has got a little...
- 45:59He's been working on some footwork.
- 46:00He's got a little kick that he does now.
- 46:03You see that?
- 46:04He just like kicks it up, but he's got a little flair there.
- 46:08He's a flashy guy.
- 46:10tells you, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna jump in and tell you, that tells you you've got confidence in yourself when you do that in front of a stadium full of people.
- 46:18Just a little.
- 46:19Bend over no, I've got this trick thing I can do.
- 46:22I wonder what he's like to hang out with in real life because he's a pretty flashy guy on the field.
- 46:28And then, you know, TSN panned to Geno Lewis looking sad a lot.
- 46:35That was their shady moment for them.
- 46:37They just panned to him looking sad.
- 46:40And then the greatest thing ever, the greatest thing ever happened is that Milt had to wear the ugliest shirt in the world.
- 46:50Because he cheers for the Yankees.
- 46:53Yes, that full Hawaiian thing.
- 46:55Yes, I'm, Enoch had his sunnies on and it was a whole thing, made me happy, serves him right.
- 47:02Yeah, they played that through both games, so it was pretty good that they kept it going through both games.
- 47:08Yes.
- 47:08Yeah.
- 47:09No, I, as far as Ottawa goes, I kind of agree with both yet to me, Adams looked like a good quarterback who hasn't played in quite a while.
- 47:18And I do still think there's potential there.
- 47:20It'll be interesting to see the game this weekend.
- 47:22They, kept shooting themselves in the foot on well on all three phases to some degree, but they tried to make a game of it at the end.
- 47:29They got themselves a touch and then went for an onside with over five minutes left.
- 47:34caught them off guard and got it and another touchdown and that put them within what was it seven or eight points but they couldn't the next onside didn't work and it was kind of
- 47:43done from there.
- 47:44Yeah.
- 47:46Yeah.
- 47:46interesting to see where Ottawa goes in the off season with quarterbacks and what do they do and you know, is Brown still there going to be their guy?
- 47:56He's not been impressive between the injuries and when he has been playing this season.
- 48:02So I'd say it looks to me like he took a step back when he was playing this year from the level he'd been playing at the year before.
- 48:09I still think that's coaching and injuries between those two things.
- 48:13think without Tommy Condell and healthy, I still think he's gonna be, he could be a really good quarterback.
- 48:21I would not give up on him yet.
- 48:23If I was them, I'd still keep him around.
- 48:25I think those three guys, are there, but you gotta give that number two spot a real competition between Crumb.
- 48:33and Adams and they should have done that some earlier this year.
- 48:36They just should have done it.
- 48:37When the season was already out of control, they should have gone there.
- 48:43The coaching thing maybe makes sense.
- 48:45Maybe it's just that he's just not comfortable with the offense at all because it'd be one thing if he was missing throws and not being able to get the ball where it needs to go.
- 48:56what I saw in the last half of the season when he's been in was not that.
- 49:00It was just bad reads, putting the ball up where it shouldn't have to be.
- 49:06And that is a mental thing.
- 49:07So hopefully another coach can come in and correct that for him.
- 49:09But it certainly looked different than what I've seen in the past.
- 49:15Yeah.
- 49:15And, you know, he comes from a system again in Winnipeg where it was run first past second and the run opened up the passing game.
- 49:23And I think that's when he's at his best and he's got no running game because Condell won't run the ball and and his offensive line can't block worth a darn.
- 49:33You know, that that offensive line has been an issue in Ottawa.
- 49:37longer than in BC and that's hard to say.
- 49:40they need to fix that and it doesn't matter who they are, who the players are, they don't seem to scheme well or they don't seem to be coached well on the offensive line.
- 49:49I'm looking and they doesn't even look like the red blacks have a quarterback coach.
- 49:53They just literally have an offensive coordinator.
- 49:56So all Tommy Condell
- 49:58sometimes you can get away with that if your OC is a former quarterback, but I don't think Condell is I don't know we'll We'll see what they sort out.
- 50:06I hope something because lord knows the fans in Ottawa deserve better than this last Almost a decade now, you know, they had the the light the ray of light last year, but
- 50:19Mom, things are a lot more fun when every team is competitive.
- 50:22Yes, exactly.
- 50:24And, and the thing is that's it.
- 50:26They've been competitive in a lot of the games that you wouldn't think they should be in, but it's just, it's so hard to say what it is.
- 50:32Maybe it's all the injuries, but every team has had injuries.
- 50:35So is it, you know, lack of depth or it's just, they seem to make too many, just too many basic mistakes.
- 50:42And I think that, I think that they need to at least bring in a new OC and probably head coach, not Campbell.
- 50:50and see where they can go from there.
- 50:53I'd give the DC another year,
- 50:55Anyway, let's jump on again because we're, like I said, not a lot to talk about these games.
- 51:01So the next one is the game that was a absolutely fantastic world beater of a game for anyone that cheers for the Stampeters and for the rest of us.
- 51:10Yeah, maybe not so much.
- 51:13Toronto 13, Calgary 44.
- 51:16What was it like GT?
- 51:18It great.
- 51:19It started off great and it kept going great.
- 51:22It was great when it ended.
- 51:23Enough.
- 51:23uh
- 51:26I have two notes, not even three, and they're less than that.
- 51:29Pick six by green to set the tone, and then kind of a lackluster game.
- 51:34Yeah, I know that.
- 51:36mean, I thought there was a few things there.
- 51:37First of all, yeah, Adrian Green, that pick six did set the tone.
- 51:40I agree with you 100 percent.
- 51:41And that was key.
- 51:43And it just started the game off perfectly for the defense that has that all of a sudden seems to have a bit of that early season swagger back that defense again.
- 51:52So it's interesting.
- 51:54I don't know where it came from or I don't know where it went for that for that little stretch.
- 51:58But it seems like Hutchins is back.
- 52:00Maybe he that.
- 52:02injury was a little more nagging than we thought it was, but certainly he was all over the field again this week.
- 52:08Now, it is against Toronto and it is against Toronto's offensive line, which outside of Ottawa probably is the worst offensive line, but they still look pretty darn impressive
- 52:18all the way around.
- 52:19And VA was VA, like early season VA again.
- 52:23He was throwing darts.
- 52:24It was only 220 yards or whatever, 11 to 15 or something the stats said, but it was, they were
- 52:31beautiful balls.
- 52:32They really were.
- 52:33He was throwing them when he needed to, where he needed to, and it just looked really impressive.
- 52:39He got all three of his main receivers with touchdowns, between Rhimes, Jones, and Phil Pot, as well as Mills ran one in.
- 52:47So all the weapons were scoring.
- 52:51And then when they finally took them out, which everybody, including myself, was like, get them out of the game.
- 52:58You're up.
- 52:58Yeah.
- 52:59then he got that little hip injury and I'm like, not good.
- 53:03But I think he'll be fine.
- 53:05By the end of it, it looked like he was walking it off.
- 53:07And I haven't seen anything on today's injury reports that say he won't be otherwise.
- 53:12But then love came in and I thought love looked pretty good.
- 53:15And there was the one long bond that he threw to Philpott.
- 53:20That was a thing of beauty.
- 53:21That was the standard.
- 53:23was stand back in the middle of the pocket like you do not see guys in the CFL do very much anymore.
- 53:29And he just went back six steps right in the middle of the field, right in the middle of the pocket and rifled that down the field.
- 53:35that was pretty impressive.
- 53:37maybe there's something there and I think we he'll get another half this weekend.
- 53:40I think he'll get probably at least the fourth quarter and probably this whole second half depending on the outcome of the game at that stage.
- 53:50To get him more ready in case in the playoffs, but yeah overall I mean it looked great and of course with less than a minute left here's a you know the most ridiculous part of the
- 54:00game of it in a 44 to 7 game with less than a minute left Dave challenges And he wins of all things and he win It was crazy I just started to laugh it was just ridiculous
- 54:15But yeah, that Hurslow Hurdle, he challenged that, it actually won.
- 54:20So that was pretty funny.
- 54:21yet.
- 54:22I will say you mentioned the long throw from love and yeah, that was well thrown and the placement was perfect.
- 54:29know, couldn't have hit it any better than that.
- 54:31And something I didn't mention in the first game of the weekend, but I'll just give this to you as contrast for
- 54:38The Calgary backup quarterback making that throw right down the middle perfect this year, last, the quarterback who was their starter last year, you said you missed the very start
- 54:47of the Saskatchewan Winnipeg game.
- 54:49The Saskatchewan touchdown came on the fact that Vavil fumbled the opening kickoff of the game, got it out to about the 40 and fumbled it.
- 54:58Saskatchewan recovered their first play.
- 55:00ran a flea flicker, which Winnipeg bit on big time and
- 55:04Maier had to just throw it down into the end zone to Robustelli, managed to under throw it so badly that it almost didn't get there.
- 55:13The DB got back in time, but ran over Robustelli and took a PI call and they ran it in from the one.
- 55:19So, so Calgary may have a better backup this year than, they had a starter last year.
- 55:26Like I said, the perfect Jake Maier game.
- 55:28Yeah.
- 55:29yeah, I mean it was underthrown by like five yards.
- 55:34Okay, I got nothing else.
- 55:36How about you MJ?
- 55:37So I have just a few, like, no, these are all like this little like notes.
- 55:41One, first, Shania Twain came out on Quick Six.
- 55:46Those are the two things I was going to mention too, yes.
- 55:49That was fun.
- 55:50I didn't know she was going to be at the game so it was pretty exciting and all my family talked about it.
- 55:55It was a huge deal.
- 55:57Two, the CFL rabbit was there and yeah the CFL he was out on the field making a play so that was fun.
- 56:05I it.
- 56:06I need to preface this.
- 56:09I need to preface this by saying this call is this penalty is a unicorn and never gets called.
- 56:17hardly ever.
- 56:18Doege took two intentional grounding penalties in a row.
- 56:22What?
- 56:23This never gets called in the CFL, like ever.
- 56:26So he took it two in a row.
- 56:28How embarrassing, sir.
- 56:30That was bad.
- 56:32And then my last little note is Doege had ran into the Calgary sideline and VA was over there giving him some props.
- 56:42He was like giving him a pat on the shoulder and send him back out.
- 56:45And that little interaction right there is everything I love about the CF.
- 56:51and VA especially.
- 56:53just little interactions like that on opposing teams and just, VA is just what a gem of a man and the trifecta, like CFL Rabbit, Shania Twain, like VA.
- 57:06they may have to dress a hamster up in a cowboy hat and have him ride that rabbit when they score the touchdowns instead of quicksand.
- 57:14Yes.
- 57:15And I will say in Degue's defense, yes, he had two intentional grounding calls in a row and those are extremely rare, but it was hard for him to get the ball back to the line of
- 57:25scrimmage when the throws were basically.
- 57:27six or seven Stampeders on top of him and his one hand sticking out of the pile somewhere going
- 57:32Yeah.
- 57:33Yeah.
- 57:34So, so I do want to mention one other thing.
- 57:37So early in the game, Charles, Charles Wiley, I don't can't remember his first name off the top of my head, but Wiley, Wiley on Calgary goes in and gets a call on Doege exactly
- 57:52the same as VA last week that I was mad about in, in Montreal.
- 57:59where Doege's helmet came off.
- 58:01And it was, he was still behind the line of scrimmage, and it should have been a penalty two weeks ago, and it should have been a penalty this week, and this week it wasn't called
- 58:12either.
- 58:12And they kind of...
- 58:13was a penalty this week though.
- 58:15No, it wasn't.
- 58:16That's my point.
- 58:17ah
- 58:19the VA one.
- 58:20Yes, this one.
- 58:22This, to me, it's this exact same thing.
- 58:24Your hands, if the guy's helmet comes off, your hand's gotta be on his head and he's a quarterback behind the line of scrimmage.
- 58:32so to me it was the exact same call.
- 58:34I felt the same way about it as I did two weeks ago.
- 58:37And again, there was no call on it.
- 58:39So maybe they just don't consider that, you know, roughed it up.
- 58:46looked like Doege didn't even have his helmet done up because it looked like the guy's forearm just kind of rushed his helmet as
- 58:53I don't know why that is.
- 58:55I don't know why if guys aren't strapping them up right or if it's a different helmet or something, but there certainly seems to have been a lot more.
- 59:03But my point is, again, if it's his arm brushing his helmet,
- 59:09If it's whatever it is, the rule is supposed to be if you contact the quarterback's head behind the line of scrimmage, that's a penalty.
- 59:19And that's if your helmet came off, the only way it comes off if somebody's touched it.
- 59:24So it should be a penalty.
- 59:26But two weeks ago and this week.
- 59:29So again, that inconsistency of what they're calling is just, I don't know.
- 59:35I don't get it.
- 59:37And that, that's the thing to me is I can, as far as I know, the rule is written, yeah, any contact because they, they don't want to put in, know, that it has to be forceful
- 59:46contact because you can't really tell that.
- 59:48So if that's the rule, then enforce it.
- 59:49If they're going to interpret it and enforce it the way that they've done on those two calls, I'm actually okay with that because those aren't the kind of hits that are really
- 59:58going to be giving a quarterback, head injury problems.
- 1:00:02They are kind of incidental to it.
- 1:00:03But the problem is what I was whining or bitching or whatever about earlier, that if it's Zack in there, he gets a call for that every time.
- 1:00:11And there's some of that a little bit with Bo, but there's not much with anybody else.
- 1:00:16So you can't have special rules for one guy because he's still playing and maybe has more head trouble than the others.
- 1:00:24Yeah, and the difference was as well, was it at the end of the play?
- 1:00:27I'm trying to remember the exact circumstance, but there was no stoppage of play.
- 1:00:31The whistle didn't blow this time and stop the play.
- 1:00:34So it might have already been at the, you know, an incomplete pass or something.
- 1:00:38So they didn't were concerned about that, but you know, nonetheless.
- 1:00:42Yeah, yeah, well, incomplete pass or not, shouldn't matter.
- 1:00:45If you throw an interception and you're roughing the pass, the play gets overturned.
- 1:00:50So, should be the same thing.
- 1:00:52I'm more talking about in this case about the whistle blowing the play dead.
- 1:00:56it's still it's still as roughing as roughing and it didn't happen.
- 1:00:59So should have been called as far as I was concerned.
- 1:01:01was some stuff happening with atoms that I could not believe did not get Called
- 1:01:07huh.
- 1:01:09So who knows?
- 1:01:10Again, what's the replay center up to?
- 1:01:12I don't know.
- 1:01:13It's difficult to see.
- 1:01:15And the thing with VA was that to me it looked like he came out and he was probably playing a little bit below the level that he did last week, which had been a good step
- 1:01:28back up.
- 1:01:29If I'm remembering this right, he had a couple of long throws that he was just off on a little bit.
- 1:01:34But once he got that sort of recalibrated, he was flying and he looked as good as he was doing at any point this season.
- 1:01:42you know, other than that slightly slower, slower start, think it looks good for Calgary going ahead.
- 1:01:49Yeah, it's going to be, I think they're set up to at least make it interesting again.
- 1:01:54Yeah, exactly.
- 1:01:55And, you who knows who knows where it's going to where they're all going to end up.
- 1:02:00I guess we can talk about that real quick here.
- 1:02:03Anything else to talk about it?
- 1:02:05Like I said, it's been a shorter review of the games, but that this is the time of year we're in.
- 1:02:12we've got a lot of teams that are playing backups either to see what they've got for next year or to keep their their starters healthy.
- 1:02:21all
- 1:02:21All four games this weekend could have an impact on the playoffs, but we don't know if they'll still have an impact by the time that they get to them.
- 1:02:33The Montreal game will be meaningless if Hamilton wins.
- 1:02:35The BC Saskatchewan game will be meaningless if Edmonton somehow beats Calgary.
- 1:02:40At least we've got people that are trying to play for something, but I don't know that we're going to see fantastic football.
- 1:02:45Anything to more or do we jump into talking about these games then?
- 1:02:49Sure, let's go to this week.
- 1:02:51Okay, sure.
- 1:02:52What we got coming up?
- 1:02:53Okay.
- 1:02:54Ottawa at Hamilton, game number one.
- 1:02:56I want to pick Ottawa.
- 1:02:58I really want to pick Ottawa.
- 1:03:00But I'm not going to.
- 1:03:02No, yeah, yeah.
- 1:03:04I really do want to pick Ottawa.
- 1:03:06So if they win, I will say that I picked Ottawa.
- 1:03:10But, but, but I'm going to go with Hamilton.
- 1:03:14Yeah.
- 1:03:15I am quite concerned about which Hamilton team shows up to play.
- 1:03:21I am very concerned.
- 1:03:23They are just wild and Ottawa, like Adams, that was his first game.
- 1:03:29His second game, I'm thinking he's gonna play a little bit better.
- 1:03:32Especially if he's getting first team reps all week.
- 1:03:35But I...
- 1:03:36Their defense is good.
- 1:03:38How is Hamilton gonna play?
- 1:03:40They're off the buy.
- 1:03:41Yeah, I'll, and you know what, they have to keep, I will pick Hamilton, but I think Ottawa's gonna give them a good run for their money.
- 1:03:47And I'm kind of with the both of you, I kind of want to pick Ottawa because it just, feels like the kind of thing the way the season's gone it could be, but I just don't believe
- 1:03:57that they can be mistake free enough to do it.
- 1:04:01And Hamilton does have more to play for.
- 1:04:03I haven't checked injury reports this week, so I don't know who's in or who's out, but I don't know that the injury reports will tell us that anyway.
- 1:04:11Probably a lot of people out there, even though they're healthy.
- 1:04:14So okay, so all three of us are going on Hamilton on that one then.
- 1:04:19Then we go to the next one, Calgary at Edmonton.
- 1:04:21ah I think this is the toughest game to pick.
- 1:04:24I think this uh is a closer game than most people would expect it to be.
- 1:04:31Edmonton's out of the playoffs, but they do not want to lose to Calgary.
- 1:04:36They do not want to lose at home.
- 1:04:39they do not want to go out with two losses after having that bit of a streak.
- 1:04:42having everybody enthusiastic and if they go out with two losses that kind of ruins that a bit and they will be playing hard.
- 1:04:51A few guys are coming back.
- 1:04:52I saw in their injury report Anderson's coming back and a couple of other this is a really tough one.
- 1:04:58I think this is a really tough one.
- 1:04:59This is almost like a pick-up for me.
- 1:05:02I'm going to take Calgary but I think this is going to be a really close game.
- 1:05:07I think this is going to be a really close, slug it out kind of game.
- 1:05:11right?
- 1:05:11I...
- 1:05:12yes.
- 1:05:13I don't...
- 1:05:14I don't even know who...
- 1:05:16I have both of them circled.
- 1:05:19Ha ha.
- 1:05:21We're gonna be
- 1:05:24last home game, but Calgary is back.
- 1:05:28The VA's back and I don't think they're going to play sitting back because they need to get clicking again.
- 1:05:36But man, Edmonton has beat them bad twice, huh?
- 1:05:39No one's.
- 1:05:42Calgary took Labor Day, Edmonton took the rematch and they were almost the identical score split.
- 1:05:49That's right, okay, sorry, right, so they've each blown each other out.
- 1:05:54Yeah, pretty much.
- 1:05:55I don't know, I don't know.
- 1:05:56You go ahead, Old Man, I have to think about it.
- 1:05:58Okay, well, I agree with you.
- 1:06:00This is a tough one to call because I do think it's going to be closer than, or it could be closer than what a lot of people would anticipate with the standings And I think this
- 1:06:10is going to be a good test to show us where Calgary is going into the playoffs.
- 1:06:15If they win this one, doesn't even have to be like a convincing shutout win, but if they can take this one by over a field goal,
- 1:06:24I think they're in a really good spot going into the playoffs.
- 1:06:28If not, it'll tell us whether maybe these last couple of weeks against some weaker defenses has been a bit of a mirage again.
- 1:06:35So I do think Calgary's going to probably should win it.
- 1:06:41But like I said, I bet whatever I picked with Calgary this season, I think all but about two weeks, the outcomes gone the wrong way.
- 1:06:49So.
- 1:06:49Last week I picked Toronto and helped Calgary get a big blowout win.
- 1:06:53Maybe I'll help them again by picking Edmonton this week.
- 1:06:56Gonna put some drama on the show here.
- 1:06:58So now it's MJ to get to decide who the show picks.
- 1:07:03I am going to pick a stamp, but I'm very unconfident in this.
- 1:07:15So how does the infamous last game of the season tie affect the playoffs?
- 1:07:23Yeah
- 1:07:23Everybody's talking about if Calgary wins, if Edmonton loses, etc.
- 1:07:27What happens if they're a tie?
- 1:07:29Does that change anything in the playoffs at all?
- 1:07:31I don't think so.
- 1:07:32I don't think so because it depends how the other games go, but
- 1:07:37think that just means that it's as good as a loss for Calgary, right?
- 1:07:41It means that it settles down where Calgary is going to be third and BC is going to be second, basically.
- 1:07:47Yeah, actually where it could affect is if Saskatchewan were to beat BC.
- 1:07:51Because then the one point would give them 11 points and, or sorry, 21 points, they'd be up to 10 and a half games.
- 1:08:00So for total chaos sake, we go for the tie.
- 1:08:03The tie.
- 1:08:04Yeah, exactly.
- 1:08:09don't forget I think it's a CFL rule.
- 1:08:11Ties have to include either Ottawa or Calgary.
- 1:08:14So they both have one more chance this weekend.
- 1:08:17That's right.
- 1:08:18They both tie in separate games.
- 1:08:21Yes.
- 1:08:22Yeah.
- 1:08:23Just to mess with both Hamilton and BC.
- 1:08:27I wouldn't put it past Hamilton for that to happen to them.
- 1:08:31All right then, yeah.
- 1:08:33So then the next one, which, which actually could be a little bit of a, a tougher one to pick too, because we don't know what's going to happen with Hamilton.
- 1:08:41so game three is Saturday, the early game Montreal at Winnipeg.
- 1:08:47Now if Hamilton loses, Montreal will have everything to play for and, both go all out.
- 1:08:52I'm sure.
- 1:08:53But if Hamilton loses and
- 1:08:55They're Montreal's old, can't go any higher than second.
- 1:08:58So do they sit people, do they sit them up?
- 1:09:00And what does Winnipeg do because.
- 1:09:02they, if they win it and BC loses, then I believe they've got the season series over BC.
- 1:09:08So they could knock them down to third and we could go Calgary, Winnipeg, BC or to fourth.
- 1:09:14don't know.
- 1:09:14So there's lots of permutations here, but who's going to be playing for how much.
- 1:09:19But based on what they did against Ottawa, I'm assuming Montreal is going to send all of their starters and they're going to play them.
- 1:09:27So I'm taking Montreal and I would take Montreal no matter what, given that fiasco that Winnipeg was involved in last
- 1:09:35But somehow, despite a fiasco, Winnipeg won.
- 1:09:40Yeah.
- 1:09:41Yeah.
- 1:09:42I am actually kind of concerned.
- 1:09:47The Alouettes should have no problem.
- 1:09:49They should just steamroll this.
- 1:09:51based on how the bombers beat Drew Brown putting at 400 yards beat the when they when Strebler had like 40 yards of passing and they beat the riders, but they did not.
- 1:10:08It's just
- 1:10:09I don't understand.
- 1:10:11I'm gonna take the Alouettes but CFL is a weird thing.
- 1:10:17I don't know that this game is quite as tough as the, uh, Calgary Edmonton game to call.
- 1:10:22I think that Montreal will be out there with wanting to.
- 1:10:27get a victory if they, even if they're out of the playoffs, just to send a little bit of a message, I do think they're gonna probably play Alexander for at least half the game and
- 1:10:37all of that gives them a better opportunity than Winnipeg.
- 1:10:40So I'm gonna pick Montreal on this one.
- 1:10:42And that takes us to our final one for the weekend.
- 1:10:47End the season.
- 1:10:49The ultimate game of the season.
- 1:10:51BC at Saskatchewan.
- 1:10:54No indication of who's playing what or it could, they could actually, end up with basically backups in there for both teams because if somehow Edmonton beats Calgary on
- 1:11:06Friday night, then BC's got second place.
- 1:11:10So it could be a quarter each of Trevor and Nathan and the rest of the game, Jeremiah Masoli against Jake Maier
- 1:11:18There.
- 1:11:19let's hope so!
- 1:11:21Oh yeah.
- 1:11:22Back to...
- 1:11:23we that matchup earlier this year and Saskatchewan won it that time.
- 1:11:27Yeah,
- 1:11:28You
- 1:11:28I'm gonna be...
- 1:11:29I hate to say it, but I'm gonna pick BC.
- 1:11:32I think you're gonna have to pry Nathan off of that field and I'm gonna pick BC.
- 1:11:37Yeah, it just depends on how much they decide, how much Saskatchewan decides to play players and for how long, how many of their starters and for how long.
- 1:11:47I feel like you old man where they'll probably get the first half and then make decisions from there.
- 1:11:53and I think BC will be doing the same.
- 1:11:55This could be, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:11:58I'm taking BC because it just feels like they're on a bit of a run.
- 1:12:01And Nathan has been just so hot recently.
- 1:12:04So yeah, I'm going with BC.
- 1:12:08Okay, so we've got them all there.
- 1:12:10Yeah, it's...
- 1:12:11I know what they won't do because it's what I would do.
- 1:12:14Everybody tells me my ideas are all way too wild for coaching.
- 1:12:17But if this turns out to be a game that BC needs to win, if Calgary wins, so BC needs to win to get for second place and they've got their players out there and all playing I'd go
- 1:12:27out and I would start with my backups as I think I mentioned this last week.
- 1:12:31Saskatchewan' I play the first half with the backups and...
- 1:12:35then come in and hopefully hold them to like a 10 or 14 points and then put your starters in and see if you can come back and beat them that way because if you can't well you only
- 1:12:45had the starters in for half a game and if you can it's pretty demoralizing if they come up against you in the playoffs in two weeks I'd take the shot at that but I what I expect
- 1:12:55is that not that I expect that we'll see for at least for them probably a quarter at the least and a half at the most for
- 1:13:04any of thier starters.
- 1:13:05And that'll depend too on how many they're, they're still resting because they are actually nicked up.
- 1:13:11I mean, they do have their, they were mentioning in the game last two games they've started.
- 1:13:18Well, I guess, no, Johnson was in the game two games ago, but went out very early.
- 1:13:21basically they've been without their 2 thousand yard receivers.
- 1:13:25for the last two games and we're still sporting out five-man crews that had been playing regular all year and were good solid receivers so they definitely they've got some depth
- 1:13:36there but they also have besides those receivers that might still be getting more rest they've still got Sayles in the back end and they've got Lakombo and Ford in the back end
- 1:13:46that I don't think will be back to play this week so it'll be interesting
- 1:13:50But that's all our picks in the books.
- 1:13:52guess by next week, I'm going to definitely have to, uh, do all of our tallies.
- 1:13:57I've been meaning to do this for about three weeks, go by and go back and get the tallies up.
- 1:14:01So I'll come back next week with who did what on the show, which of us gets the bragging rights for Pickham.
- 1:14:06Okay.
- 1:14:07that pretty much takes us to the end, so any last shots, comments, closing remarks, and your social medias?
- 1:14:16Well, the only thing that I forgot to mention, just when you're talking about secondaries and stuff, in the Calgary game, there was much to do, and I think it's kind of cool, that
- 1:14:26it's the first time maybe forever that there was two Canadian corners playing on the same team, and plus Onyeka as well.
- 1:14:33So they had three at halfback, so they had three, and then they had a global in Devine-Scott at safety.
- 1:14:39So they had quite the patchwork defensive backfield as well.
- 1:14:43So that's kind of cool.
- 1:14:44And it was, you know, that's interesting.
- 1:14:47So other than that, that was the only other thing I thought I'd mention before we sign off.
- 1:14:51yeah, as always, you can get me at GT Barnum on Blue Sky.
- 1:14:56And uh I'm gonna go check out the YouTube and see if we can drive up those dollars on the Casey Printers jersey.
- 1:15:02We'll tell people right here, anybody interested, but give them till till Friday.
- 1:15:07Let yeah, why don't we give it?
- 1:15:09I don't know.
- 1:15:10Why don't we give it through the weekend in case some type of thing?
- 1:15:14Okay.
- 1:15:14a deadline to beat my sister.
- 1:15:16oh
- 1:15:17the season ends on Saturday night, so let's just give it right through to the season ends on last game at the end of the last game on Saturday night.
- 1:15:26oh As the whistle blows on the final game, that'll be the final thing.
- 1:15:36So that's it, that's what we're saying.
- 1:15:38Okay.
- 1:15:39good to me.
- 1:15:40Okay MJ, what do you got to dazzle us with for your last closing out?
- 1:15:44Well.
- 1:15:45World Series starts on Friday and the Ticats are back playing after the bye so it's going to be a fun weekend for me.
- 1:15:57join me on Blue Sky Sports and Plants and you can follow all my stressed posts about each of these games.
- 1:16:05do a good job of posting during the games.
- 1:16:06I don't see them during the games because I've got that, as I think I've said to you all before, I tape the games and watch them about 20 minutes afterwards so can run them
- 1:16:15through.
- 1:16:15I can't look at blue sky and the, on the 55 yard sky feed anymore because MJ's posting lies.
- 1:16:26And no, don't be sorry.
- 1:16:28It's great for people that can't see the game, but I...
- 1:16:32doing a wonderful job of it there.
- 1:16:34Anyway, that's about it.
- 1:16:35I'm of course, Oldman Shoutingatclouds You can get me at oldman-sac on Blue Sky.
- 1:16:43You can get the show on either X or Instagram at the CFL Outsiders.
- 1:16:52I think that's about most of the contact information that we need there.
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- 1:17:02Other than that, let's hope that we get a fantastic, unbelievably exciting game of football, especially for the last weekend of the season.
- 1:17:14Or maybe more realistically, let's hope we get a few games that are close and hold our interest past the halftime.
- 1:17:22But the playoffs are just around the corner.
- 1:17:24Playoffs, baby, playoffs.
- 1:17:25Okay, that's it for now.
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