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#370 - For Azeroth!: “The Year Ahead: State of Azeroth · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  I fully expected season 2 to come after BlizzCon specifically
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  because we are having an on stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon,
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  which means we're having them like 2 weeks after launch.
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  Three weeks after launch, victory for the Forsaken.
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  For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for.
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  Pandaria. For calendar to.
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  The burning region for Gilnaeus or has.
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  Not died for the Lich King, for the Sindora.
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  For the Alliance for. The Horn for Azeroth.
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  Hello, and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth.
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  I am one of your hosts, the true villain, Manny, or just Manny,
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  and I am joined, coming to us from the wonderful, wonderful
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  state of Minnesota. Wait, Lex.
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  Hello Lex, how are you? I'm good, I'm good.
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  If we're we're getting through it, we're surviving.
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  We're Vivin. We're watching videos, kids.
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  That's good. Let's get out the world of.
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  Warcraft Heating because apparently we're doing the
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  videos at noon. Yeah, yeah, that that's going to
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  be a lot of what we're talking about today.
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  Sean, what about you? How's the World of Warcraft
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  shooting you and the videos in the middle of the day?
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  I may have just blocked the wrong person on Twitter.
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  I before the show started, I was blocking trying to block
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  somebody awful and I may, but your block list isn't sorted by
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  when you blocked them. It's sorted.
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  I don't know what order this is. No, it's not even enough about
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  anyway. Mine, mine is huge.
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  So I'm I've been scrolling since before you started the show to
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  try and see a name. So if you're listening and you
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  follow me on Twitter and I have you blocked.
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  If you are blocked by at cartridge Bros and you think oh
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  I might have been the person he accidentally blocked, please
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  come to bit that low watch slash fast discord and let me know so
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  I can unblock you or. No, no, no, go to what's what's
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  the other what's the cartridge pros discord.
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  I do not need people that Sean has deemed worthy to block this
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  turning into the for Azeroth. No, please come in and let me.
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  I can't. You don't want the most toxic
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  people you've ever met just. No, I think.
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  If. Somebody goes and looks if I'm
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  blocked and they read through their own tweets and they're
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  like, Oh yeah, I get it. I know why he blocked me.
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  I'm a crawfish. Really you you think that people
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  that you've blocked are capable of self reflection and self
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  analyzing their their previous conduct and.
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  Be like, oh, I get it. I believe other than that things
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  are great. I feel really bad about who I
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  may have randomly blocked That's going to be awful.
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  Someone's someone poor, some poor someone is going to be
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  like, oh, it's weird. I wonder why Sean blocked me.
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  I'm lovely I. Was I wouldn't make a joke about
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  like, Oh yeah, you think people are just sitting there.
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  But like, frankly, anytime I have been blocked, it's been
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  like the most unless it was well deserved, like unless I was
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  actively being mean to not that I'm mean to people on purpose,
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  but sometimes you'll feel a little mean.
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  But any other time if I get blocked, I like, it's the most
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  devastating thing that's ever happened to me.
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  I'm like. This is where we like Pan in for
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  like on to Lex, we fade over to like to Twitter and we have like
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  the rest of development or no? Curb Your Enthusiasm.
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  Curb Your Enthusiasm, and it's just wonderful.
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  It's so funny. Well.
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  I'll never know because I haven't been on Twitter in like
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  2. Years.
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  True enough. True enough.
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  OK, But aside from Twitter chaos, what you were alluding
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  to, Lex, was the State of Azeroth video that came out
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  today. And this was roughly 1/2 hour of
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  what we can expect this year in the World of Warcraft.
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  Pretty good presentation in that this is building out of what
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  used to be just a post of a timeline, a road map that they
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  put out. And now we're getting a full on
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  presentation about this for all the things that are coming and a
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  little bit of like conversation about about it.
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  So I like, I like that. I think that more communication
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  is always better generally, though.
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  What were your thoughts? Let's start with you, Lex.
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  I am excited. I'm a little nervous.
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  There was a lot that was announced in the video and I'm
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  sure we're going to go over it with more granular detail.
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  My biggest fear and hot take Lex is worried the devs are taking
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  on too much. My biggest fear is that it's a
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  lot, right? We are seeing a consistently
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  really short patch time. I would argue that we are seeing
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  quality issues that we didn't like.
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  You know, we were always, nothing was perfect, right?
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  But it feels like things are getting a little messier and a
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  little bit more half baked as time goes on, and it seems like
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  they are just pumping more into that patch cycle.
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  And I am worried. But if they pull it off, it's
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  going to kill, right? There is some really cool stuff.
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  There's amazing stuff coming for Delves, which I'm sure we're
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  going to talk about in long detail.
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  We're getting cute little single boss rage, which would be really
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  fun. Like everything they said was
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  like individually really, really cool and really, really
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  exciting. So I am hyped and Blizzcon's
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  coming. OK, another attendee of our soon
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  to be attendee of BlizzCon. Sean, what are your overall fit
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  thoughts of this State of Azeroth presentation?
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  I was really happy with it. It I mean, it didn't give us
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  cross region spoiler alert. So but at this, but at this
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  point, none of them have given us cross region.
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  So I guess I can't be upset about that.
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  No, I thought it was great. I the trailer it, it felt like
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  exactly what I expected. And also with the the new patch
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  coming up, the new expansion coming up, like they're not
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  going to give us story spoilers for 12.1.
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  Anybody who thought that was going to happen is delusional.
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  We'll come back to that. Keep going.
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  OK, we'll come back to anyway, I thought it was great.
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  I thought it was exactly what we needed.
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  But I, I, I, I'm not speaking from a community like I, I want
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  to super be be super clear. I, I, this is the case in every
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  time, anytime any has ever asked me a question.
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  I'm speaking just for me, and it was everything that I could have
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  wanted. I don't care about classic.
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  So the classic not getting a big announcement doesn't affect me
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  at all. I thought the trailer at the end
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  was gangbusters. Like I could just, they could
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  have just launched that and what?
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  Put a play that on repeat for 30 minutes and I would have been
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  happy. That was amazing.
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  I'm going to start a blood elf. Actually I have a blood elf
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  rogue. I mean my first ever character
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  is a blood elf rogue. Anyway, I thought it was great.
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  I thought it was a good time. Plus Holly Longdale can't beat
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  it. Ian has it cost us and and not
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  once did they mention add-ons or UI.
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  So 10 out of 1010 out of 10. OK, OK.
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  So of course there was a lot to cover.
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  This show is primarily a retail modern show, so we're going to
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  be focused on that. But there was some stuff that
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  was there for Classic. There's a little contention
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  because what was there for Classic was short ended.
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  Looking at the road map itself, because it only goes through
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  part of the year, I assume that what is coming in the future,
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  which they said, hey classic we we've got some great stuff.
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  I'm confident to say we've got more coming for you is just that
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  they were not ready to announce it yet and that classic stuff
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  will come. Well, go ahead and.
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  The way that I've heard the little, you know, like Holly
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  almost saying something and then people being like Holly, no,
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  that little joke. People are primarily in my
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  spheres interpreting that as like it's going to be a Blues
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  con announcement or they're saving it for something big.
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  And so I they would not have teased something big is coming
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  that is like so close you can taste it, but Holly can't talk
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  about it just yet. And then I mean, I guess they
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  would right. They, you know, had let down
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  announcements in the past, but it, it really does.
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  I agree, Manny. It feels like they are making it
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  really clear. Like, hey guys, we don't have a
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  ton right now. But it's going to.
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  Be big when it comes out. Was that not them cancelling
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  whatever that project was? That's what I assumed was
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  happening. Holly was going to announce it
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  and. That comes quietly on Friday.
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  Joanna Fairies, Joanna Fairies yelled from the side.
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  Holly, no, we're cancelling that right now.
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  That's what I thought. Isn't that why the classic
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  people are upset? Oh yeah, that definitely, most
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  definitely. But like in terms of just wild
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  speculation and none of us here are experts on classic, so wild
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  speculation. What are you guys thinking that
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  this could be? Are you thinking that obviously
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  they'll just continue pushing into future things like Warlords
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  classic? What point does it stop being
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  classic is, is my thought at this point?
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  Or is it something similar to the seasonal stuff that we've
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  got, like the Seeds of Discovery or, or some other version of
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  Classic Plus? Let's start with you first,
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  Sean. Got any harebrained ideas?
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  I definitely think it's cross region for classic.
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  Cross region classic. Brilliant.
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  Brilliant that. Happens in classic.
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  Before it happens in retail, I will like, actually write in an
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  angry letter. I'm gonna I'm gonna e-mail
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  somebody. Yeah, I don't know who.
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  I don't know who I'm sending this to yet.
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  It's. Going to be support.
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  They poor support always gets the brunt of the the.
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  The yeah, man, that bot's going to be so unhappy when I read
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  your letter. I'm just going to like put in
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  AI, pass this along to a real person.
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  Yeah, that crawfish is going to be some upset.
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  OK, well fine. I'll send it to Xander and then
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  Xander will know who to send it to.
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  But Lex, what about you? So this isn't what it's going to
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  be, but this is my like kicking my feet in the air, head in my
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  in my hands dream. So warlords next on track right?
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  So we were talking a lot in the discord about how warlords
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  actually have really cool lore. It just is not well explained in
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  game. I think I my again, big dream
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  that will never come true big dream.
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  It would be that basically they would kind of go into Warlords
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  and redo a lot of how they present information.
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  So give you cutscene like cinematics of garage crossing
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  over and like, you know, going through the Dragonflight stuff
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  and give you more excellent, like fleshing out, giving you
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  the story that you got. But it was only in war crimes.
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  If you read War Crimes, I don't follow classic enough to feel
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  like I can make an actual prediction.
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  I Yeah, I'm still not super clear on what happened in Season
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  of Discovery, except there were like rogue tanks or something.
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  So maybe they're going to switch up what classes the races can
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  be. I don't know.
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  Classic. Lex, if you're looking for a
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  prediction to make, you could join me.
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  You could tag team this cross region prediction I.
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  Don't like being wrong, Sean. Eventually.
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  Eventually, someday I will be right and then I will point back
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  at all of these cross region references and say, see, I
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  called it. The year is 2099.
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  Sean's tombstone says, see, I told you I want to jump in and
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  join Lex on this, on this building out lore that was
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  missed. It would be so amazing to get
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  just like some sort of like interactive trial of garage, oh,
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  fight off the infinite sort of scenario and then just put that
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  in lore walking in in retail too.
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  There. You validated it for both games.
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  Everybody's happy. Yeah, I'm on.
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  I'm on board with team Lex on this one.
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  Come join us, John. Crossover Crossover realms into
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  the right side. No, I'm going to sit firm.
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  I'm I'm sticking to it. I'm sticking to it.
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  There's somebody. Listen, I'm not the only cross
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  region believer. There's dozens of us.
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  Oh, you know, what they're probably actually going to do is
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  they're probably going to do something with like garrisons
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  and housing being combined. Oh, you hate that?
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  I thought that was going to be a popular opinion.
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  OK, never mind. My bad.
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  And any means the angry, like the most disgusted face I've
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  heard in my life. I thought that would be the
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  like, Oh yeah, the garrisons. The thing everyone thought would
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  be cool and be like housing, but it wasn't.
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  And that now we have housing. What if we can buy that?
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  Never mind. I take it back.
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  I take it back. We're not doing garrisons and
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  housing. Yeah, let housing be housing.
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  Let garrisons be left in the past.
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  That's it. So are you thinking the Warlords
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  of Draynor is not going to have a Garrison system?
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  It'll have a Garrison system. I'm just hoping that they
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  learned from Legion remix and they just kill the mission table
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  pretty much and kiss like it it. What a time sink.
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  I don't know. Anyways, as I said, we're not a
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  classic show. So let's let's talk about stuff
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  that we're we're more versed in the retail stuff and in this
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  timeline we got some things that were going to be coming up real
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  soon as well as things that stretched out into the air.
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  And I guess the first thing that we should look at is of course
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  12.1 is the first we're. Skipping Void Assault and Prop
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  Hunt. All right, you know what
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  actually prop hunts worth talking about?
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  Void Assault I can't care, but Void Assault we'll talk with.
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  Things. You also skipped the 12.7.
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  Rate. Yeah, that's true.
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  I apologize. I I I am skipping the 12 point.
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  All right, let's talk. About Last Titan, let's talk
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  about. Yeah.
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  Let's start. Everyone thinks we should start
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  the last Titan. 12 Let's talk the last Titan, let's get the
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  last Titan. 12 point O .5 we have of course, these void
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  assaults the aftermath of what we're we have yet to even start
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  on our journey and we're talking about the aftermath of the
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  initial tier and they reveal no spoiler, no real big spoilers
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  that things don't go according to plan.
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  So now we're dealing with these void assaults and these void
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  assaults are things that are going to be happening in silver
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  moon in all different places. My immediate thought when I
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  looked when I saw this was for rack assaults 2 point O like.
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  So for all of the listeners who don't remember slash know what
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  that was, do you guys want to remind the listeners what for
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  rack? Assaults.
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  So in Dragonflight, just ahead of Dragonflight, yeah, there
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  were different areas that where you would fight against the
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  smaller enemies. And then you would fight up
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  until the point where you would summon the, the boss.
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  Farak would fly across the the zone and drop off the the mini
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  boss and then take off. And you would fight the, you
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  would fight that mini boss and then it would reset, repeat.
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  I do remember this now, actually, yeah.
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  But. But the players for the US but.
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  For the players that don't remember.
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  So I could see that this, this could be something similar.
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  Obviously this could be just kind of like invasion.
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  I don't want to say invasion points because invasion points
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  you went into a particular you went into a particular instanced
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  area, maybe kind of like Legion assaults or the BFA enemy
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  faction assaults where a particular zone or area would be
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  taken over. There would be specific quests
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  that are for that for that area. And then a end of once you did
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  enough world quests that that were there, you would get a end
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  scenario thing. I actually would prefer that
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  more to the Farrakh assaults just because that though those
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  were both open world because you did World Quest, but like the
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  end assault thing, you would just queue in with stuff and it
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  would be like a quick little scenario.
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  I enjoyed those. What what do you guys think and
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  what would you prefer? Let's start with you.
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  Sean Oh yeah, I don't care. It'll be content.
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  I do once and then probably never again unless there's sick
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  trans mug tied to it and then I will do it until I have received
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  my trans mug. I This is not going to move.
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  The Feroc assaults did not move the needle for me.
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  This one, actually, I found them a little bit annoying because it
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  was like the weird, like you have to kill X of these guys to
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  get the key to do this thing and then that key opens this thing
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  and you have to kill it was it was too much.
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  You know, I can memorize an entire boss right from start to
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  finish, but I don't want to know how many of these things they
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  have to kill for what keys. So yeah, I don't I'll do it.
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  I'll do it once and then I'll probably I'll do it like just
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  until I have all of whatever the transmog, if the transmog is
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  good, if the transmog is not good, I won't do it at all.
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  But yeah, it's not going to unfortunately.
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  I mean this, this and now this whole, the the big theme from
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  this entire presentation was, OK, that's not really for me.
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  I don't care. But the things that were for me,
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  I really enjoy it. But this is one of the things on
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  my list that's just like, OK, sure.
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  I'm excited for the people that get excited about this types of
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  thing. So go Lex.
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  OK, Lex, is this for you? So when I was at this point in
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  the video, I got really confused about timeline and I thought
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  they were announcing a second pre patch event.
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  And as a second pre patch event I was like over the moon, right?
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  I was like Oh my God, they're giving us 2 little things and
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  one of them is a silly little dink around like play through
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  things. We're going to have fun,
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  discover people. We're talking about prop Hunter
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  in a second if you didn't watch the video.
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  And the other one is this cool little assault.
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  It sounds a lot like maybe like maybe it's me like the Legion
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  assault. And I famously love the Legion
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  pre patch. That's going to be so fun.
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  I'd love I was literally just thinking, you know, it would be
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  so fun if we were going around for pre patch instead and like
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  finding little pockets of void and picking it up.
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  That'll be a perfect pre patch event.
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  I'm I can't believe they're giving us another.
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  And then I understood the timeline.
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  I realized that was not what was occurring.
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  I think it's a 12 point 0.5. Honestly, I think I am going to
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  be too busy doing actual World of Warcraft things to do little
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  jump around and find the assaults.
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  I unless for example, it was a gearing opportunity, I don't
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  really anticipate spending a lot of time in it.
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  We'll see. Yeah, I think it would be a
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  better pre patch all I think. I I like the concept pre patch
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  of like an assault showing up in various areas and you going out
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  to those areas, especially if they were to make it a little
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  bit wider stretch instead of just being like in the Eastern
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  Kingdoms and calendar. If it was like they're attacking
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  dragon dragon rest or they're attacking outlands.
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  Well, maybe not outlands, I don't know.
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  Anyway, just going all over the world to these void related
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  places. Like you could do Pandaria and
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  Oldham again, Oldham again. But I think that you're you're
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  both kind of touching on something that I've been
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  feeling. And maybe I've said it before on
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  the show, but I think that with the cadence of stuff that comes
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  out as as they've been coming out, they don't have much teeth
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  to them. They don't have much depth to
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  them. They they are really just sort
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  of like flashes in the pan that like Blizzard used to be easy to
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  understand, hard to master. Like there would be like a depth
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  to these systems that they'd throw out.
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  And I don't feel like they've been doing a lot of these, like
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  some of the really bad ones are whatever the hell we did in
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  Arathi when the when the Nerubians invaded again, like
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  just random, like, oh, yeah, here's something you need to
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  waste some time and get some gear.
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  And I'm hoping that this isn't it like that.
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  But we will see. As you say, Lex.
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  And then the other part of it is, yeah, you're right, Sean.
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  They are putting out things for just a very wide audience.
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  There's things for everybody. And they keep on trying to like,
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  bring every new people into this big tent.
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  So you're right. Maybe if this isn't for me, I
• 21:32
  can try the other thing. And that other thing is a hide
• 21:39
  and seek where you turn into various pieces of decor.
• 21:44
  Tell me about this 'cause I apparently want to skip over and
• 21:47
  go right to 12.1. So you tell me what this is,
• 21:50
  Sean. Me.
• 21:53
  Yeah. Tell you what the hide and seek
• 21:56
  mean. OK, Lex is really chomping at
• 21:58
  the bit. Let's give it the length.
• 21:58
  No, hold on. I can do it.
• 21:59
  I can do it. I want to.
• 22:01
  I just want to make Lex wait. I could do it.
• 22:03
  So in Silver Moon, people are going to be doing this hide and
• 22:07
  seek media game where they can turn into housing props like
• 22:11
  plates of cheese and they hide and then other people are going
• 22:16
  to try and find those plates of cheese and that's, that's the
• 22:19
  game. It's going to be so fun.
• 22:22
  Because you can't really meta that because it's going to be a
• 22:25
  PvP game, right? So it can't be.
• 22:26
  It's not one of those things like, oh, there's like you
• 22:28
  always do this, you always go here because everyone be like,
• 22:30
  oh, it's the player, she's over there.
• 22:32
  So you're going to have to be really creative.
• 22:33
  Assuming this actually is the thing that gets kind of big, it
• 22:35
  seems like fun, right? So I can't imagine it's going to
• 22:37
  be completely dead. And yeah, you get to run around
• 22:40
  and like transform into things and then half the people are
• 22:43
  transforming, the other half are running around.
• 22:44
  I think it's going to be really fun.
• 22:45
  I am this. If I am going to waste time on
• 22:48
  12 point 9.5, it's going to be prop hunt.
• 22:50
  Also, if prop hunt is bad, I'm going to cry.
• 22:51
  I'm going to cry my eyes out. I'm so excited about this.
• 22:54
  But nobody will know because she will be pretending to be a pot
• 22:57
  while she doesn't. It's really overfull and it's
• 23:03
  like all this water is coming out of.
• 23:04
  It it's me. Yeah, so prop hunt 5V5 PvP hide
• 23:10
  and seek event where one team will turn into the decor and one
• 23:16
  team will go and seek them out. I it is definitely not something
• 23:20
  to push back the void as Ian Hazakosis had said.
• 23:23
  It is light hearted and fun and I like it because it's something
• 23:28
  that you can take out of the expansion and do in future
• 23:33
  places. They can add different
• 23:35
  locations. So not only is it Silver Moon,
• 23:38
  but it's also the neighborhoods. I think the neighborhoods are
• 23:42
  going to be kind of crazy because if people set up their
• 23:46
  yard and you're like in that yard, I don't know, but I assume
• 23:52
  that it's just like some instant set version that with a smaller
• 23:56
  area that to seek in. I'd like to make a suggestion if
• 23:59
  there's any fascinative. If you're listening for
• 24:01
  Halloween, can we have a reverse prop hunt where the cheese tray
• 24:07
  menacingly chases down the people and tries to catch them?
• 24:12
  Michael Myers I. Think that's amazing shot Yeah,
• 24:17
  yeah, that's the the cheese. The cheese board drops, the
• 24:19
  cheese just holds the knife and starts coming after you and
• 24:21
  like. Yeah, but slowly.
• 24:23
  They can't run. They can only walk slow.
• 24:25
  Oh, never mind, I can't do it. OK, so that is 12 point O .512.
• 24:36
  Point O .7 would be the lead up to the 12.1 and that includes A1
• 24:46
  boss raid that they're adding. What's the expectations for
• 24:53
  this? What are your fears for this?
• 24:55
  Let's start with you, Lex, since Sean Bogart and your thing.
• 24:58
  Yeah, too much. My fear is it's too much.
• 25:00
  My fear is that like, I'm assuming we'll be well into AOTC
• 25:05
  by 12 point 0.7, but if not, that's going to suck, right?
• 25:08
  The teams that are still pushing and, and, or like who are still
• 25:10
  working at Mythic, That's going to be a really complicated
• 25:12
  conversation to have, especially since there's already 3 separate
• 25:15
  raids. And then like all of a sudden
• 25:17
  you have to have a like sit down with your officers every single
• 25:19
  night. Like OK, which one are we doing?
• 25:20
  Like are we going to start the new one because everyone's
• 25:22
  excited about it? Are we going to keep working on
• 25:24
  the hard ones? We've, you know, have been
• 25:25
  beating our heads against the wall.
• 25:28
  I've heard a lot of anxiety about the feedback from raid
• 25:32
  testing in like official midnight not being listened to
• 25:35
  enough. So now we're adding in another
• 25:36
  one. That's concerning, right?
• 25:39
  Like again, I I'm just worried it's too much.
• 25:40
  I'm worried it's both going to feel like a lot for the players
• 25:42
  and it's also going to be a lot for the devs and just all
• 25:47
  together it's just going to be too much to put in a patch.
• 25:50
  However, if it's not, it's going to be sick right?
• 25:54
  If you're done with AOTC and you're usually the .7 is around
• 25:57
  when the team starts kind of winding down, I'm hoping this is
• 26:00
  not going to be like a final boss level of one boss.
• 26:03
  I'm hoping it'll be somewhere like mid range, so it's not A1
• 26:07
  nighter and maybe actually, as I say that I usually the mid rate
• 26:10
  of kind of our one nighters. So like I would like this to be
• 26:13
  like a few nights, but not so many that it's you know, just
• 26:16
  another damn final boss to beat your head against for ages and
• 26:19
  ages right, like not easy, but not the most complicated thing.
• 26:24
  Hopefully they can you know, if you be a cool way to do like
• 26:27
  mechanics I don't usually have to play with because again, it's
• 26:29
  just a single boss right, you're not going for anything.
• 26:31
  I think it could be a really cool way to pump up a time that
• 26:35
  tends to be a little bit slow. I think if that is not what it
• 26:39
  is at the .7, I think this is going to be really complicated.
• 26:46
  OK. Well, our concerns there.
• 26:48
  Sean, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty much
• 26:51
  with Lex, I think so it is we'll by 12 point 0.7 most teams are
• 26:56
  in farm at that point and a lot of teams are at the we're only
• 26:59
  doing the skipped bosses point of farm.
• 27:01
  I think it's all going to go down to difficulty.
• 27:03
  If this is a so this is from a two night a week mythic team
• 27:07
  perspective. So if this is a one to two week
• 27:10
  Prague, so two to four raid nights at about 15 pulls a
• 27:15
  night, so a 30 to 60 pull boss, I think it's fine.
• 27:18
  I think it's a fine thing to add to the end.
• 27:20
  You definitely don't want it to be too difficult.
• 27:22
  This shouldn't be a wall because at that point of the season,
• 27:24
  people are winding down. People are looking to get ready
• 27:26
  for their breaks, to get ready for next season and this is
• 27:30
  fine. I'd like to see it launched with
• 27:31
  the same item level as the rest of the raids.
• 27:33
  And I really desperately hope it doesn't include a turbo boost at
• 27:37
  the same time as this because I'm so, so tired of turbo boost.
• 27:41
  But there's none mentioned on the road map.
• 27:43
  So I am hopeful, But I think it comes out of tuning.
• 27:46
  If if it's tuned super hard, I think that it feels kind of bad
• 27:49
  to inject it when they do. But if it's tuned at like a
• 27:51
  medium level, like a, a middle mid tier boss level, and I think
• 27:55
  it's fine to have it to give a little bump to folks, you know,
• 27:59
  trying to get them ready to go for for the next patch.
• 28:03
  It's all going to come out of tuning.
• 28:04
  I'm, I'm not, I'm not as worried, I don't think as Lex
• 28:10
  is, but there is, I do definitely hear her concern and
• 28:14
  if it comes out tuned really hard, I could see, I could see
• 28:17
  it being a flop. OK, Yeah, I think it's going to
• 28:23
  be for those teams that are trying to get things done before
• 28:28
  the new season comes in. I question how difficult they
• 28:31
  can really make it if it is also considered part of the current
• 28:36
  tier and therefore you don't get your like cutting edge AOTC for
• 28:41
  that particular raid once the new season comes in.
• 28:45
  That to me just means that it seems more likely that they'll
• 28:49
  tune it closer to a mid boss raid than an end boss raid.
• 28:55
  Obviously the race, the world first teams and stuff that have
• 28:59
  been on farm for a while, they will not have the as much
• 29:06
  difficulty as progging through this.
• 29:08
  But they'll also have the questionable decision of do we
• 29:13
  host this as an event? And I don't think that happens
• 29:16
  when you're just about to wind up into like the main next tier.
• 29:21
  So this might be just something that we see as a raid from home
• 29:24
  sort of try. Kill it.
• 29:28
  There will 100% not be an on location event for this this.
• 29:33
  This could be a cool world's first sort of raid though, in
• 29:36
  the sense that this might be the one time that a non echo non
• 29:41
  limit Guild did. I name one of the old ones that
• 29:45
  doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, it's, it's liquid now.
• 29:50
  That's OK. We we need the Spotify comments
• 29:52
  we're going to get from that are good for the algorithm, so let
• 29:55
  them come in. Love it.
• 29:57
  I got to be wrong more just for the sake of this that I think
• 30:01
  that's always the the cool thing about the early bosses and the
• 30:03
  race of the world first right is that that I mean, part of that
• 30:06
  is because the big teams are doing splits and stuff.
• 30:09
  And so my guess is they'll still be steamrolled by the people who
• 30:12
  have been dedicating their entire life to this because it's
• 30:14
  their paid job. Wouldn't it be cool if we could
• 30:17
  get a world's first kill, like a true world's first kill from a
• 30:22
  smaller team because it was only one boss raid?
• 30:23
  And so you actually can be like, all right, we're going to grind
• 30:26
  really hard. Everyone's going to call out
• 30:27
  sick from work, but it's going to be like only for two days, so
• 30:31
  who cares? We get a return of pieces.
• 30:33
  Pieces had a world first kill on UNAT, so it'd be nice to see
• 30:36
  them come back and get a world first kill on Smorgar, whatever
• 30:39
  his name is. Also, we're all assuming that
• 30:42
  there will be a mythic version of this, but there's a
• 30:44
  possibility where it launches and it only has normal and
• 30:46
  heroic. Really.
• 30:48
  Yeah, if you look at the anniversary event with Black
• 30:50
  Rock Depths, it only had, it did not have a mythic version, it
• 30:53
  only had heroic and that came out like in the middle tier.
• 30:56
  So it's possible that especially if they're using the one in 12
• 31:00
  point 1.5, which we'll get to if they're using that as a vehicle
• 31:03
  for story driving as opposed to difficult content, And also
• 31:08
  launching it as a heroic only raid would allow them to avoid
• 31:12
  the question of do we put increased item level on it for
• 31:14
  mythic or not? Because it doesn't matter if
• 31:16
  it's heroic. Yeah, I I have nothing to
• 31:18
  indicate that it won't be mythic, but I'm just saying that
• 31:21
  that that could potentially be something that they do where it
• 31:24
  just becomes heroic. Yeah, it's a it's a good thought
• 31:27
  It there's like background for it.
• 31:29
  So I like it. OK.
• 31:32
  Sean, do you want to take us to 12.1 point O since I fumble
• 31:37
  that? Yeah, 12.1 point O, we're in a
• 31:40
  total surprise to no one. We're getting a second patch at
• 31:43
  midnight. 12.1 is coming just before BlizzCon, so it'll be
• 31:47
  about that five month mark from the start of Season 1.
• 31:52
  And they were very light on the details, Ian said.
• 31:54
  We don't want to give any story spoilers away yet, but we're
• 31:58
  going to have a new zone, new raid, new dungeons, new delves,
• 32:01
  new world boss housing, social and UI updates.
• 32:05
  Important to note, that's the first time on the timeline that
• 32:09
  they mentioned UI updates. So the UI you have now is the
• 32:12
  one you're going to have till 12.1.
• 32:16
  Yeah, I, I, we're definitely going to Aerithor, I think over
• 32:21
  there across the sea or to some zone we've not heard of and not
• 32:26
  expected, as is tradition. Yeah, at this point, I don't, I
• 32:29
  don't take any bets. It's just like and we're going
• 32:33
  to Aspoliosia. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:36
  Oh, Aspoliozia is a very fun spot.
• 32:38
  That's a good. That's a deep cut.
• 32:40
  For those of you who don't know that is.
• 32:41
  The It's too deep. Nobody wants to go away.
• 32:48
  Yeah, it's very deep. Yeah, Season 1, Season 2 is
• 32:51
  coming. I this this was a surprise to
• 32:53
  me. This was the first genuine
• 32:54
  surprise of the presentation. I fully expected Season 2 to
• 33:00
  come after BlizzCon specifically because we are having an on
• 33:06
  stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon, which means we're having them
• 33:13
  like 2 weeks after launch. Three weeks after launch?
• 33:16
  Because BlizzCon is September 12th, you're not going to launch
• 33:19
  this raid much sooner than like middle of August.
• 33:25
  I think this is probably the latest you can do this and still
• 33:27
  have time for race to roll first before BlizzCon.
• 33:31
  So it's actually maybe a little bit shorter than five months if
• 33:34
  we're launching like start of August area.
• 33:38
  But yeah, it's it's about that five month mark.
• 33:41
  It's coming soon. Oh yeah, it's probably goblin.
• 33:48
  Goblin graphics is in the chat here of the live show.
• 33:50
  If you want to see the live show, you can get the address
• 33:53
  for it at bit dot LY slash faz discord.
• 33:55
  You can watch us record live. There's a fun pre show where Lex
• 33:58
  has a lot of curse words. But yeah, he's mentioning that
• 34:02
  it might be the goblin zone, that troll or that troll area, a
• 34:05
  toll Uthak or whatever it is off the coast of Queldenasse.
• 34:11
  So it could probably, it's probably going to be that.
• 34:14
  That's actually now that you say that, I think it's that I that's
• 34:16
  what it is. I would hope so, because that
• 34:20
  would make more sense than. I was looking forward to as a
• 34:23
  palusia. Yeah, I I would like more
• 34:34
  coherency in the story. So that would make more sense at
• 34:38
  least we'll see where they go and how they develop it.
• 34:43
  But Ian was light on any kind of details because obviously he
• 34:47
  doesn't want to give story spoilers and and that, but it is
• 34:50
  a continuation of this light versus void.
• 34:53
  So maybe it's more light focused in like trolls versus light
• 35:00
  would be kind of cool. Not a motif that we've seen
• 35:03
  before or even just like light infused trolls would be kind of
• 35:08
  crazy for silver moon to deal with where it's like, wait a
• 35:10
  second, they're using the same power as us.
• 35:13
  We the bad guys here. I could I could give an entire
• 35:21
  win this expansion launches. I will give a tirade about
• 35:27
  Silver Moon's relationships with the trolls, but that is a
• 35:30
  different episode. Next what?
• 35:33
  What are your thoughts on 12.1? Without more information it's
• 35:39
  hard for me to feel like I can speak confidently about it.
• 35:43
  I'm curious, So I was wondering because one of the things it's
• 35:45
  housing social and UI updates and we jumped on the fact that's
• 35:47
  the first time they mentioned UI updates.
• 35:49
  I'm wondering what the social updates, if that's when they're
• 35:53
  anticipating they're going to bring in the Wow Ambassador
• 35:55
  program, which I realized I tried to Google once the video
• 35:58
  dropped and it wasn't out yet. So I'm trying to read an article
• 36:01
  as we speak. But essentially, in short, it's
• 36:05
  a way to nominate people who are like really good community
• 36:09
  members and then those people help bring new players in and
• 36:18
  amplify the like, like make the game more fun.
• 36:21
  Which there's a little snarky part of me that's like, oh, so
• 36:24
  you don't have to pay GMs. But I didn't say that.
• 36:28
  Anyway, I'm not sure if that's it really sounds like this.
• 36:31
  That's a program they intend to do on launch.
• 36:34
  So I'm curious what the social update is if it's not that
• 36:37
  because it was apparently a big enough deal they wanted to put
• 36:40
  it in. But it's probably that.
• 36:42
  I don't know anyway. If it is the ambassador program,
• 36:48
  Vasdev, anybody at Blizzard, if you can hear me, please vet the
• 36:52
  crap out of these people. I really.
• 36:55
  The Ambassador program starts February 26th.
• 36:57
  OK, OK, so it's definitely not I like a lot.
• 37:02
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 37:03
  I'm, I'm, I'm a little the the the ambassador program.
• 37:06
  I'm curious how it's going to. Go well, they said they were
• 37:09
  getting a friends list and everything that.
• 37:13
  Oh, maybe that would make sense. Anyway, I don't know.
• 37:16
  I thought it was interesting that it was something.
• 37:17
  I don't remember them mentioning anything specifically that would
• 37:19
  cover that, but apparently like there is a thing they're
• 37:22
  planning. Hey, Sean, you want to say what
• 37:24
  you think it might be? It's not.
• 37:26
  I mean, it's not. Going to be, they would have
• 37:28
  announced. That.
• 37:31
  By now, yeah, the specifically for the ambassador program, so
• 37:33
  it, it's a a growth of the community Discord program that
• 37:37
  was started in the EU region and it's now being expanded
• 37:41
  worldwide. That's the ambassador program.
• 37:43
  In order to be an ambassador, there's two different ways.
• 37:45
  Number one is you are a member of one of those one of those
• 37:49
  community discords and you are nominated by that community
• 37:52
  Discord to be an ambassador. So they already have some
• 37:56
  ambassadors selected from these communities that are part of the
• 37:59
  community Discord program that are moving forward into
• 38:02
  midnight. The other way is to apply.
• 38:04
  There's a link where you can apply to both have your Discord
• 38:06
  included and to apply to become an ambassador yourself.
• 38:10
  And then someone on the Blizzard team, I guess will choose from
• 38:12
  those applications based on Twitter and various response to
• 38:19
  a tweet. Is that the application?
• 38:21
  A lot of the applications getting in now are are quite
• 38:23
  good. So that's there will be vetting
• 38:25
  on it. Yeah.
• 38:28
  I assume it's going to be a lot like if you were one of those
• 38:31
  people who like likes to help new players and sign up for
• 38:36
  that, like the you see the murlocs on people's heads.
• 38:39
  It'll be a lot of people like that I think that are applying
• 38:40
  for it. If you don't like helping new
• 38:42
  people, don't apply, don't apply for this.
• 38:44
  And if you're in a Discord, that's one of the community
• 38:47
  discords that's part of this, that's not been rolled into this
• 38:49
  ambassador program and you get nominated because you're friends
• 38:52
  with the people that run it or whatever, and you don't like
• 38:54
  helping people, don't just say yes.
• 38:55
  It's not like one of those things that you strive to get
• 38:59
  and be like, oh look, I'm an ambassador, but I'm also a Dick.
• 39:03
  So please, please 'cause I think this program could do a lot of
• 39:06
  good for new players. And I desperately want to avoid
• 39:10
  people that aren't super altruistic putting their names
• 39:14
  in. So don't accept the nomination
• 39:17
  if you're not like that, and don't put your name in if you're
• 39:20
  like, kind of a Dick, don't do it.
• 39:24
  And even if you are super altruistic, don't put your name
• 39:30
  in or accept the nomination if you don't have the bandwidth.
• 39:33
  Like helping people is great, but if you do not have the
• 39:36
  energy for it, help yourself first.
• 39:38
  Like you're not going to do yourself any good.
• 39:40
  You're not going to do anybody any good if you're burnt out.
• 39:42
  And then people are coming to you because you're an
• 39:44
  ambassador, right? So I'm glad that this is put
• 39:48
  forward in the way that it is. It is for the people who are
• 39:52
  looking to help that that I'm just worried that some people
• 39:57
  are going to see it as like a blue check mark and be like, I
• 40:00
  got to get it because it's going to make me look more prominent.
• 40:03
  Please don't. As for the social update, they
• 40:14
  said they were redoing the friends list and stuff.
• 40:16
  That's all well and good. What I'm more concerned with is
• 40:20
  ignoring section and filter section.
• 40:25
  It would be wonderful if I could filter trade chat to just ignore
• 40:32
  certain words. If your message has a phrase in
• 40:35
  it, just completely, immediately just muted.
• 40:38
  I don't need to block that person, but muted.
• 40:42
  I am one of those people who have have hit the upward limit
• 40:46
  of people on my ignore list multiple times.
• 40:52
  Like we've all been there in trade chat and it's just the
• 40:55
  wall of wanna run this? Wanna get your 12 plus?
• 41:00
  Wanna wanna use my services for whatever profession I'm Hawking
• 41:05
  like and we leave, we leave services and they're in trade
• 41:10
  and we leave trade and they're we're putting this crap in
• 41:12
  general and we report and block and report and block and then
• 41:16
  eventually it's just like you've you've reached the the limit.
• 41:20
  So just a nice filter system, I think would be a great way of
• 41:24
  being able to go about it. What would you guys want from
• 41:28
  this? Start with you, Lex.
• 41:30
  I, I mean, this is very hyper specific.
• 41:33
  I want to be able to copy and paste things from chat without
• 41:36
  needing a new add on to do that. That was more of a frustration
• 41:41
  in role-playing, but it was a huge frustration in role-playing
• 41:44
  that I couldn't like copy what somebody said or like even
• 41:47
  someone's name. Oh my God.
• 41:48
  Like inviting people to Guild is such a raging pain.
• 41:51
  If they're a cross server, if you have to type and if they
• 41:53
  have a freaking character, pain in my butt.
• 41:58
  It's worth it though. For everyone who I invited to
• 42:00
  read who's like, we love it, it's worth it.
• 42:02
  I'll type your silly little special characters.
• 42:04
  You can have a cute little name, but yeah, that would be my
• 42:07
  biggest win. I think it's got to be
• 42:11
  significant if they're like putting as a headline because
• 42:13
  they just added in that like recently partnered with things
• 42:18
  just stealth drop that into into our social.
• 42:22
  So like I assume this is going to be something huge.
• 42:25
  What? What are you thinking, Sean?
• 42:28
  I just hope that it's the ability to queue cross faction
• 42:32
  without being in a full group. You thought it was going to say
• 42:35
  region, You thought it was going to say cross region.
• 42:37
  I got you like you and I have brothers off that AQ enough
• 42:41
  times I was. Yeah, I know.
• 42:43
  I just want to queue cross faction.
• 42:44
  Like right now you can queue cross faction for like time
• 42:47
  walking if you have a full group.
• 42:49
  It's a pain in the ass if you don't have a full group and like
• 42:52
  LFR as well. That's what I hope that the
• 42:54
  social update is, that we're allowed to play with our Horde
• 42:57
  fans and our Alliance friends whenever we want.
• 43:06
  That would be, that would be something.
• 43:08
  But I, I expect that there's going to be a, it's going to be
• 43:11
  a package of things. Because if they're going to put
• 43:13
  it as a bullet point, it feels like it's probably going to be a
• 43:15
  bit more outside of 12.0, sorry, 12.1.
• 43:22
  And then we go into like 12 point 1.5 and that it starts
• 43:26
  getting more and more vague as those as we get further on,
• 43:31
  they're going to like revisit this update this and add in more
• 43:35
  specifics as we get closer. I'm sure that like once like the
• 43:40
  race to world first has cooled down and we're and we're looking
• 43:43
  towards 12 point O .5. We'll get an update where that's
• 43:46
  showing exactly what we can start expecting for 12.1 and
• 43:51
  like far, far more details of that.
• 43:56
  There are things that like, they probably haven't even planned
• 43:59
  yet, but they're like, Oh yeah, we are going to make those
• 44:01
  changes. One of the things that they said
• 44:03
  they're going to constantly be looking at updating is housing,
• 44:07
  and they've actually announced a couple of features for housing
• 44:11
  that will be coming soon. So one thing I'm super excited
• 44:14
  about is the ability to group move objects together.
• 44:19
  It's like this entire thing, this entire group set that I
• 44:23
  have here, I'm going to move this over here or a copy or a
• 44:26
  copy and paste. That to me is amazing.
• 44:29
  I just was rearranging a, a hallway where I have like items
• 44:35
  from particular expansions. And I was like, oh, I want to
• 44:38
  start over here as like classic and then BC and Wrath and so
• 44:41
  forth. And then I realized that I had a
• 44:42
  gap. And so I had to move every item
• 44:45
  1 by 1. And so this will be a godsend.
• 44:53
  What about you guys? Let's start with you, Sean.
• 44:57
  I know you you're rating, rating, rating.
• 45:00
  But like any of these housing features look nice to you.
• 45:04
  The only one that really matters to me is the one that I asked
• 45:06
  them about months ago, and the answer I got then lines up with
• 45:10
  everything they've said since, so it wasn't new information.
• 45:13
  And that's the ability to have our pets roaming around our
• 45:17
  house when we get there. The answer Jesse gave me when I
• 45:21
  asked, like when housing first came out, was yes, we want this,
• 45:24
  we have to solve collision first.
• 45:26
  So it sounds like they have an idea on how to solve collision.
• 45:29
  So great. But I got to be honest fam, I
• 45:33
  haven't even gone back to my neighborhood.
• 45:35
  So I did endeavours once for about 45 minutes and that will
• 45:40
  be the last endeavour I do. But I haven't gone back to my
• 45:43
  house since before Christmas. So Sean, I have good news on
• 45:48
  Endeavours, which is when they are active, during the time that
• 45:51
  everything's really exciting and active, you'll be doing them
• 45:54
  automatically when you're doing everything.
• 45:55
  Plus new dungeons, new delves, which I know.
• 45:57
  You do, yeah, yeah, that's, I'll get the points that way.
• 46:01
  I'm not going to do any Endeavour specific activities
• 46:03
  though. That's Oh, yeah, they're not.
• 46:05
  They're not my, that's not. I talked a huge game last
• 46:08
  episode about how fun it was having it to just like screw
• 46:10
  around with. And then every single day I
• 46:12
  thought to myself, do I want to log in and do the endeavour?
• 46:14
  And then I thought, no, I could do anything else with my time.
• 46:17
  Yeah, and you're not going to hang this Farazra outside
• 46:19
  instead. Well, I had already hugged my
• 46:22
  Farazra outside and I was like, OK, I'm going to do Endeavour
• 46:27
  stuff. And I hit the cap.
• 46:28
  And then they put out the news that, hey, we've seen that this
• 46:33
  cap is too restrictive, that these diminishing returns are
• 46:39
  too painful. And they immediately set forth
• 46:43
  and made changes hot fixed in this stuff so that you get more
• 46:50
  sorry, the diminishing returns are cut off so you don't go down
• 46:53
  to like one or two tickets from something that used to give you
• 46:56
  like 10 or 8. They allowed it to go from
• 47:01
  instead of getting 1000 house XP to like 2250 housing XP, which
• 47:08
  is great because I'm continuing to level up my house, which
• 47:11
  which I and really having fun with.
• 47:15
  So I guess I'll I'll be the housing main.
• 47:18
  Lex can be the R Pier and Sean can be the pet battler, and
• 47:22
  we'll all have fun stuff to do. I'm curious I 'cause I have a
• 47:26
  theory about mount collectors and people addicted to
• 47:33
  increasing the level of their house is your.
• 47:37
  Theory that they can't ride. Yes, yes, that that was his
• 47:41
  theory from before. Have you?
• 47:44
  Have you filled like are you full?
• 47:46
  Have you used all of your points in your house or are you
• 47:48
  strictly just I need to make this number go up?
• 47:52
  I had hit the cap and then I tore parts of the thing down.
• 47:57
  And now with this new rebuild, I'm halfway towards the cap, but
• 48:02
  I've still got like one room that is utterly empty and I want
• 48:05
  to fill in the space. Like I'm my place is a huge,
• 48:09
  it's just got a lot of things in it, right?
• 48:12
  Like I wanted to build it like cozy and, and like lived in.
• 48:17
  And so that's required like a lot of things that I'm putting
• 48:20
  together. And I'm not like one of those
• 48:22
  crazy builds where like they put together a bunch of columns and
• 48:26
  suddenly they've got like Voltron set up, right.
• 48:30
  I've got just like different things that I'm like, OK, like
• 48:34
  this, these are my coffee cups and I and, and like this is my
• 48:38
  like little nook where we're all like make my coffee and my mini
• 48:41
  fridge and so forth. And so like that's the stuff
• 48:43
  that I've got sort of set up. I don't have a fridge in my
• 48:47
  kitchen. Thanks, John.
• 48:48
  There you go. And that's the sort of stuff
• 48:50
  that I do. You're welcome.
• 48:52
  Yeah. Fun.
• 48:53
  I'm glad. I'm glad you're enjoying it.
• 48:54
  That makes me happy. That sparks joy.
• 48:56
  Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of
• 49:00
  changes coming. One things that they were
• 49:03
  talking about were import codes. So if you are somebody who
• 49:07
  doesn't do those crazy builds, but you you walk into Lexus
• 49:11
  Place and you're like, Oh my goodness, you can now copy out
• 49:15
  part of the layout. And then if you've got the
• 49:18
  materials, import that into your well, you can't do that now, but
• 49:22
  that is something that's coming in the future that you'll be
• 49:24
  able to like copy out something that you see, import that into
• 49:28
  your place and use that as the inspiration starting point.
• 49:31
  If Lexus created a grand piano, you can then find out what the
• 49:37
  materials are for that, put the grand piano in your place and go
• 49:41
  from there. So like, I think that is that is
• 49:43
  actually something that I had asked for way back before this
• 49:48
  had even come out. And Sean, you're like, this is
• 49:50
  not something I'm going to do. I just need people to do like
• 49:53
  quick build time lapse videos. And I say, what if they have
• 49:57
  import codes like the like they have for talents?
• 50:01
  And so I'm really glad that this is coming along.
• 50:03
  This should help a lot of people moving on from housing though,
• 50:11
  something that I think Lex you might be excited for, something
• 50:14
  that I, I am like hoping is going to like reignite my
• 50:17
  passion in 12 point 1.5 labyrinths.
• 50:24
  So Lex, talk us through this. What are labyrinths?
• 50:28
  So basically they're a mega dungeon, but it's actually a
• 50:31
  delve. So it's it's a really big delve.
• 50:34
  It sounds like from what I've been hearing slash this in the
• 50:37
  video is probably doing my actual job and being a good
• 50:39
  employee Boss. Don't fire me.
• 50:42
  You can like start and come back, right?
• 50:44
  So it's not like you have to do it all in one run.
• 50:45
  You can split it up into little parts, but it's basically like a
• 50:48
  big, complex, large delve with different Delvey ways to delve.
• 50:54
  Basically to making Delve bigger and cooler and there's more
• 50:57
  options and it's cooler, it's more fun and there's more things
• 50:59
  to do and you can be in there for a long time.
• 51:03
  Yeah, the mega delves called Labyrinth, I think I like that
• 51:07
  that phrasing that that coin of the phrase you got there.
• 51:13
  I am hoping that as they like turned up the difficulty for
• 51:20
  dungeons into mega dungeons and when they originally did mega
• 51:24
  dungeons for like Return to Cares and they were very story
• 51:28
  built. I'm hoping that these labyrinths
• 51:31
  are much the same. I noticed that nowhere in this
• 51:36
  timeline is there any pointing to a mega dungeon.
• 51:40
  So if the labyrinth is in inserted into the story like the
• 51:47
  last mega dungeon we got. If you're call back in
• 51:49
  Dragonflight, that was the infinite Dragonflight's Dawn of
• 51:53
  the Infinite. So if it's like that, I I could
• 51:59
  really be excited for this if it is something that they do more
• 52:05
  like I'm going to say Mecca Gone was the weakest Mecca dungeon
• 52:09
  for me it. Was the only Mecca dungeon.
• 52:15
  I I just mean like story wise and in terms of like impact and
• 52:22
  placing, like I felt that obviously there was novelty with
• 52:27
  return to Kazan and there was like a very cool story story a
• 52:34
  bit Mechagon was just sort of a Side Story sort of thing.
• 52:39
  And. Manny Mechagon unlocked an
• 52:43
  Allied race as Avesh merely existed.
• 52:48
  Mechagon didn't unlock the Mechagomes.
• 52:52
  Yeah, that whole island, the the dungeon is the culmination of
• 52:55
  that island. That's how you unlocked
• 52:57
  mecanomes. Oh they added it, you went
• 52:59
  unlocking mecanomes came in afterwards.
• 53:02
  But they came from there. That's where they came from.
• 53:07
  That's their home. Oh, Manny.
• 53:08
  Yeah, it's still still not raiding.
• 53:12
  Oh, Manny, Yeah. I will say, I think we've said
• 53:16
  this a little bit a few times on the podcast.
• 53:18
  Delve, in my opinion, have a very unique ability to add to
• 53:22
  the story because they are solo content and they're not timed.
• 53:26
  And I don't necessarily know that.
• 53:28
  I feel they have dug into that. I feel like the Delve storylines
• 53:33
  have always been kind of surface level, so I'm hopeful.
• 53:39
  I think that'd be one thing to be really cool with the
• 53:41
  labyrinth is to give it more of an ability to get into story,
• 53:45
  even little things like wouldn't it be cool if you could read
• 53:47
  little like, I mean, I don't know, I probably wouldn't
• 53:50
  actually do it. Wouldn't it be cool if it was
• 53:51
  possible like, you know, read like have options to go into
• 53:55
  more of lower areas or like trigger certain sites that are
• 53:57
  only, you know, basically just story fights that you can skip
• 54:00
  otherwise and things like that. I think the there's an ability
• 54:05
  in single player play to be a lot more flexible because you
• 54:10
  don't have to worry about like, well, what are the other
• 54:12
  players? Are they either going to be
• 54:13
  like, no, we're not going to go over and read the stupid
• 54:15
  journal, go do the freaking and plus as fast as you can or like,
• 54:20
  oh, well, we have to go do this one thing.
• 54:22
  So everyone has to go drag over to this one place and nobody
• 54:24
  wants to go. And I think it'll be really
• 54:25
  cool, especially with the name like Red Labyrinth, if they do
• 54:29
  make this a lot more choose your own adventure.
• 54:31
  And they do make it a lot more like if you want to really dig
• 54:34
  in and get into this story in a way that you can only
• 54:38
  comfortably do in a single player environment, you can.
• 54:43
  If you want to just speed through it as fast as possible,
• 54:46
  you skip these areas and you just go straight to the boss.
• 54:49
  Yeah, I definitely agree with you there, Lex, especially with
• 54:53
  the advent of like Mythic Plus making dungeons more streamlined
• 54:57
  and all the bosses, faceless punch dummies, the delves, the
• 55:03
  labyrinths have a have a real space to explore story and have
• 55:08
  characters again, which doesn't happen in World of Warcraft
• 55:12
  instance content anymore. So yeah, this this could be a
• 55:16
  real opportunity. I like that.
• 55:21
  Beyond that, the latest the last thing going all the way to 12
• 55:27
  point 1.7, they have a new stand alone mode now.
• 55:35
  There was like a little image of some concept art for that.
• 55:42
  But this is from the same team that did Plunderstorm, that did
• 55:49
  Remix, and now this new thing is coming up.
• 55:53
  So what are your thoughts on that?
• 55:57
  Let's start with you, Sean. You.
• 55:59
  You were the one who fell in love with Plunderstorm and you
• 56:02
  did like Mr. Pandaria remix. I'm not sure what your final
• 56:07
  thoughts were for remix. Think you you flip-flopped this
• 56:10
  so many times I've lost track of where you ended up.
• 56:13
  Yeah, it was. I really liked Plunderstorm and
• 56:16
  Mr. Bandaria remix. I think you should land on that.
• 56:21
  I'm excited. I I like thunderstorm a lot.
• 56:23
  I like, I'm I like the Warcraft universe, like the Warcraft art
• 56:26
  style. I like the Warcraft team and I
• 56:29
  like when people get to be creative and try something
• 56:31
  different. So let me see what you got and
• 56:34
  you can listen. That's coming out in in autumn.
• 56:37
  That's right around Halloween. If you guys, Fasdev, if they
• 56:41
  want to see like if they're still sort of like we don't
• 56:43
  really know what we want to do. You can have you can have my
• 56:45
  idea for the prop hunt, the reverse prop hunt that's free.
• 56:48
  You can have that. That could be the event.
• 56:50
  The whole event could just be me as a platter of cheese chasing
• 56:54
  people down in in Hillsborough. I I'd be OK with that, yeah.
• 56:59
  I mean, that makes sense. A lot of those horror movies are
• 57:01
  cheesy, so this just sort of really double s down on that.
• 57:07
  I was talking to friend of the show Halionics and she pointed
• 57:13
  me to a Wowhead article back from When PAX East was around
• 57:22
  and we were talking about this in development mode that was set
• 57:29
  in a spooky area. This was their part of their
• 57:36
  future experimentation and Blizzard confirmed that an
• 57:41
  upcoming game mode will not be battle Royale like plan to
• 57:44
  start. Instead, it will have a vibe
• 57:46
  that is more similar to a scary story.
• 57:49
  Additionally, the key image appears to take place in the
• 57:51
  town of Darkshire, within the haunted force of Dustwood.
• 57:55
  This is all the way back in May of 2025 that this this was
• 58:03
  coming. And then when you look at the
• 58:05
  key art, it's sort of vibes with that.
• 58:08
  So people were. Imagine a game mode where you
• 58:13
  don't have you can't attack. So if you've ever played the
• 58:15
  game Amnesia The Dark Descent, there's a monster chasing you.
• 58:19
  You can't fight. All you can do is run and hide.
• 58:22
  So you could have stitches, cause stitches is one of the
• 58:25
  creatures that roams this. The roads of Duskwood.
• 58:28
  You could have stitches chase the player down and you have to
• 58:31
  like run away from him and solve some kind of puzzle in order to
• 58:34
  save yourself or save somebody. That could be neat.
• 58:36
  Dude, I'm way down. I'm way down for this.
• 58:38
  I'm going to create it in my head so that they could never
• 58:41
  possibly match what I've imagined, and then it'll let
• 58:43
  myself be disappointed when it doesn't match them.
• 58:46
  I think is is what I'm going to do, and then I'll say something
• 58:49
  completely obnoxious like this could have been an e-mail and
• 58:52
  really paint myself as a giant anyway.
• 58:57
  OK, I'm sure that many people will join you as we get more
• 59:02
  details. So nothing special there.
• 59:07
  Lex, What? What are you thinking?
• 59:09
  I'm really excited, to the surprise of nobody who saw me go
• 59:13
  crazy guys, when we talked about Prop Hunt, I like a little
• 59:16
  silly, fun, goofy little thing to play around with.
• 59:20
  The biggest hypothesis I've heard is sort of Among Us style
• 59:24
  and the art from the video is sort of like a circular,
• 59:29
  circular space. I mean, obviously this is all up
• 59:31
  for like they're not none of this is locked in.
• 59:34
  To me, the video art almost looks a little bit more perfect.
• 59:38
  Visions ask. There's like little glowy parts
• 59:41
  that seem to be differentiating certain areas, but obviously I
• 59:44
  don't know, we won't know until it's closer.
• 59:47
  I think it's going to be great. I was less of a remix person
• 59:50
  because I don't like long term grinds, Surprise, surprise,
• 59:53
  likes a little bit lazy. I loved Plunderstorm.
• 59:55
  I mean like once it kind of got super like everyone knows what
• 59:58
  to do. It's there's a meta and I don't
• 1:00:00
  really know the meta and I don't really like, I'm not great at
• 1:00:02
  PVPI, didn't get as into it, but like early on it was really fun
• 1:00:05
  because it was just a silly screw around, run around button,
• 1:00:09
  button, button, button, button game.
• 1:00:10
  And I think that was really fun. I think whatever it's going to
• 1:00:12
  be, it's going to be a good time.
• 1:00:13
  It might not be a long term good time but I'm happy to have, you
• 1:00:17
  know, a couple weeks that I play a silly little game and until
• 1:00:21
  someone met makes it a meta and I don't want to read the meta
• 1:00:23
  and I get bored. I'm hoping it's not player
• 1:00:26
  versus player. Some people have talked about
• 1:00:28
  like it being something like DVD where it's this asymmetrical
• 1:00:32
  thing, one one player trying to hunt down four other players
• 1:00:36
  around this scary town and they're trying to hide and do
• 1:00:39
  objectives while avoiding the other player.
• 1:00:44
  Instead, I would prefer if it was more like a repo, another
• 1:00:48
  game that is similarly scary where you're going around you're
• 1:00:53
  trying to collect things and particular things could be like
• 1:00:58
  poltergeists or or spirits that might like chase after you.
• 1:01:01
  And if that might be a cool kind of squad sort of thing to do.
• 1:01:06
  And then have the like poltergeist and all of that be
• 1:01:09
  just NPCS where it's like, oh crap, I trapped, like I
• 1:01:11
  triggered something in the farm and then black get killed or run
• 1:01:15
  away from the farm and that sort of thing.
• 1:01:17
  There's there's a lot of possibilities.
• 1:01:19
  This is just like us brainstorming stuff based on
• 1:01:24
  like very vague hints. But I do recommend for people
• 1:01:30
  who are looking to speculate, go back and look at that old
• 1:01:34
  article from PAX East because it does have a few more details and
• 1:01:38
  it this seems to be them coming forward with that stuff.
• 1:01:42
  It also is something that I really wanted to point out to
• 1:01:45
  you, Lex, because it shows that this stuff is in development for
• 1:01:49
  a good long while before like we ever get our first eyes on it,
• 1:01:55
  which might allay some of your concerns and everything's being
• 1:01:59
  rushed out like it might it. Would lay my concerns more if it
• 1:02:03
  wasn't actually showing up rushed right?
• 1:02:07
  No I know so it also what I didn't.
• 1:02:09
  Maybe everyone else knew this. I was sort of under the
• 1:02:12
  impression that like the Plunderstorm and limits team was
• 1:02:14
  up. Like the World of Warcraft team
• 1:02:16
  was kind of devoting resources while other doing other things.
• 1:02:20
  It seems like they're talking about this like there is a
• 1:02:22
  separate team that is kind of portioned off and that is the
• 1:02:27
  standalone game team. I think it's sorry.
• 1:02:31
  The live team, which was something that was talked about
• 1:02:35
  mentioned at least in in in the video as well.
• 1:02:41
  Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was being a
• 1:02:42
  good employee and doing my actual job, but yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:45
  So I think I mean, so far everything that team has
• 1:02:53
  produced, I guess remix, they're like remix in general, not just
• 1:02:57
  remix people had on and off, like early on it was a little
• 1:03:01
  bit complicated, but that was really, really big game mode.
• 1:03:03
  Plunderstorm specifically, I thought came out in really good
• 1:03:06
  shape. There were definitely, I mean,
• 1:03:08
  like there were bugs, there were issues, there were things that
• 1:03:10
  you know, exploits and things, but overall it they were like,
• 1:03:14
  it was all OK. And so I'm hopeful that this
• 1:03:18
  team, this team seems to be really good about had like
• 1:03:23
  getting things out in in a really good position.
• 1:03:27
  And look, again, I first of all, I'm trying really hard not to
• 1:03:31
  let my opinion of what is occurring in live be influenced
• 1:03:35
  by my fears, right? So like, I get everything's
• 1:03:38
  going to come out buggy, right? It's, I don't know, like it's a
• 1:03:41
  game with a ton of people code that's, you know, almost as old
• 1:03:44
  as I am, Like it's fine, whatever.
• 1:03:46
  There's going to be mistakes. And I I mean, all of this is
• 1:03:50
  really, really cool. So I'm also not trying to, you
• 1:03:52
  know, be like, Oh no, they're giving me cool, cute things,
• 1:03:56
  dude. Oh shoot, darn, I'm having fun,
• 1:03:59
  right? I just worry because it does
• 1:04:01
  feel like things are coming out half baked more and more and
• 1:04:03
  more and I'm like, OK, are we hiring more people or like,
• 1:04:09
  what's the plan? That's my fear.
• 1:04:13
  But yeah, you're right. They, they're working on this
• 1:04:15
  for a long time. And especially with a standalone
• 1:04:18
  game like this, I'm, I'm really hopeful.
• 1:04:20
  I'm really excited about this. To be honest.
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  I think this is going to be really, really fun.
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  I am over the moon, whatever it is, right?
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  All of these suggestions or something.
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  I did not expect to battle Royale.
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  In fact, I think when Plunderstorm came out, I was a
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  big whiny little baby about it. I was like, I don't want to do
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  battle Royale. I don't want to do the, I don't
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  like PvP. And I loved it.
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  I thought it was really fun and silly and goofy.
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  Oh, did I stop? Yeah, she stopped.
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  Oh, I know it's a rarity. Sorry, it was like a puff stop.
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  I got caught. I caught off guard there.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  So like things that have been in the pipeline for a while.
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  I'm hoping that things are smoother.
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  They brought on 100 people from Blizzard North.
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  They are, they're hopefully getting past growing pains,
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  onboarding pains and going through all of and going through
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  that. And so maybe things will not be
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  as rough. We've talked about how there was
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  sort of a change in course part way through the War Within and
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  hopefully that means that things will be smoother going forward.
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  But a lot of this is just hopes and none of it confirmed.
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  So we will see. Something that we have a lot of
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  hope for is BlizzCon. Now the two of you will be going
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  to BlizzCon and that is like the big mark on this September 12th
• 1:05:59
  that they've got there. What are you hoping to see at
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  BlizzCon? And Lex.
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  Yes, Lex for sure. What else?
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  John, keep going. I answered my question I want
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  I'd like to see a StarCraft shooter.
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  I more Warcraft, obviously more Warcraft.
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  I love that and an animated series, the Warcraft animated
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  series. The RT at the end of this
• 1:06:27
  presentation was a, a trailer for housing that like literally,
• 1:06:32
  honest to God, took my breath away.
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  And it was easily as good as any animation I've ever seen on a
• 1:06:41
  television series or movie. So yeah, that's, I hope for that
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  at BlizzCon. I hope they come out and say,
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  hey, guess what? Our, our team is amazing.
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  We love them. We signed on with Apple TV Plus
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  for a deal to prepare to present to, to, to develop a Warcraft
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  television animated series. That's what I hope.
• 1:07:04
  And Lex. And I want to see Lex.
• 1:07:06
  I wanted to see Manny, but he refuses to come to BlizzCon.
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  We'll talk about it and after show.
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  Lex, what are you hoping to see at BlizzCon?
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  And please don't answer Lex, that doesn't have the same
• 1:07:16
  appeal. I have a mirror in my own God
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  damn house, Manny. So yes, obviously I'm super
• 1:07:22
  excited to see Sean. I'm super excited to see my
• 1:07:24
  Guild again. That was a really good time.
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  I think there's some members who weren't able to come last year
• 1:07:27
  who were coming this year and a lot of people who were there
• 1:07:30
  last year who were coming back. It's gonna be amazing.
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  I'm so excited. I'm over the moon.
• 1:07:34
  So I honestly, based on where they put BlizzCon in the road
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  map, I don't want to see a lot from World of Warcraft because
• 1:07:43
  yeah, like 12, obviously I think they're going to give us some
• 1:07:46
  information on 12.2, but it's going to be early enough in 12.1
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  that like frankly, I mean, I guess we will have had, you
• 1:07:54
  know, the the ending of everything.
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  So yeah, I think they gave us a lot of information on 12.2.
• 1:08:01
  I think they're going to feel like they have to give us some
• 1:08:03
  information on Last Titan, and I kind of don't want them to spoil
• 1:08:05
  the end of 12.2, and I think they probably don't want to
• 1:08:08
  either. So I'm thinking that's going to
• 1:08:10
  be reined in. And if it's not, I hope they
• 1:08:12
  rein it in. Like even if they're thinking
• 1:08:14
  like whatever doesn't like that would suck in my opinion.
• 1:08:18
  It would be disappointing. So my guess is this is going to
• 1:08:21
  be very StarCraft heavy. And I think that's actually
• 1:08:23
  really exciting. I think having BlizzCon be an
• 1:08:25
  opportunity to be like, let's bring back an older IP.
• 1:08:31
  Let's I, I think the idea of the, I'm hopeful the, the mobile
• 1:08:35
  game is StarCraft. I really hope they learn from
• 1:08:37
  last BlizzCon and they drop it immediately upon BlizzCon so I
• 1:08:40
  can play the mobile game through BlizzCon.
• 1:08:42
  That was amazing. I, yeah, I, I, I frankly, some
• 1:08:48
  World of Warcraft. I don't want to see a lot of it
• 1:08:50
  in that point in time. Yeah, this kind of goes along
• 1:08:55
  with what Sean was saying at the beginning, and I said I'd loop
• 1:08:58
  back to it. Well, here I am.
• 1:09:01
  They have been really good with this.
• 1:09:05
  Not to give story spoilers. There was very much like, hey,
• 1:09:08
  this is the general stuff. I'm not going to tell you the
• 1:09:10
  name of of the patch, not going to tell you much of the story
• 1:09:14
  stuff. But I remember just really early
• 1:09:19
  Legion, they dropped everything on the Carazan patch and it was
• 1:09:25
  like was I overlap like Legion was hype, but like to
• 1:09:30
  immediately know what was going on in the in the next major
• 1:09:33
  patch kind of got ahead of itself.
• 1:09:38
  So maybe it could happen at BlizzCon.
• 1:09:42
  I'm I'm unsure I would really. I would really say that the new
• 1:09:51
  unannounced IP that they've been picking up people for now, that
• 1:09:56
  they're picking up publicity, people would love to see some of
• 1:10:01
  that stuff come to light at BlizzCon.
• 1:10:05
  And then beyond that, like, yeah, you're I think I'm with
• 1:10:12
  Lex. You can go light on Warcraft,
• 1:10:15
  push more of the more of the other franchises like to see
• 1:10:20
  what's happening with Overwatch. Please.
• 1:10:24
  I I don't know why I keep hoping for Overwatch to like do
• 1:10:27
  something I like. They're going to announce
• 1:10:29
  Overwatch 3 and still not have started the story from Overwatch
• 1:10:32
  one at this point. I don't know.
• 1:10:35
  At some point I'm going to stop caring.
• 1:10:37
  Let's have start let's have heroes of the storm revived.
• 1:10:42
  That's my that's my dream. Here's the storm revived would
• 1:10:46
  be amazing. But yeah, we will see.
• 1:10:50
  I honestly, it's going to be community.
• 1:10:52
  I just want to get a picture of Lex and Sean side by side that
• 1:10:56
  isn't photoshopped. If when I was drunk, when I was
• 1:11:00
  drunk and being like I've got friends.
• 1:11:04
  I put one in the For Ezra discord.
• 1:11:06
  I put a photo of Lex and I and you.
• 1:11:08
  It's all three of us. Actually, I put I just dropped
• 1:11:11
  it in there in the modern conversation channel.
• 1:11:13
  Oh. There we go.
• 1:11:14
  All right, BlizzCon. Dreams do come true friends, but
• 1:11:18
  we would love to hear what your BlizzCon dreams are so jump into
• 1:11:23
  the fast discord. Let us know and is there
• 1:11:27
  anything else that you guys think we would possibly see at
• 1:11:32
  BlizzCon or you want to talk about from this road map?
• 1:11:35
  Sean you? 2 Two things.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah, the two most important things.
• 1:11:39
  I can't believe we didn't mention Rufus.
• 1:11:42
  So Blizzard has partnered with Habitat for Humanity and they're
• 1:11:46
  selling this giga cute dog pet that comes with a dog house and
• 1:11:51
  a dog bowl. And his name is Rufus, and he's
• 1:11:54
  dressed up like a little construction worker and he's got
• 1:11:56
  little construction boots on his paws.
• 1:11:58
  And if you buy it, money goes to build houses for people that
• 1:12:02
  need it. It's a great 'cause I love it.
• 1:12:05
  I keep refreshing the store 'cause I want to buy it now.
• 1:12:09
  I love Rufus, I've only just met him but I would already kill for
• 1:12:13
  him. And the other thing is the the
• 1:12:17
  date of pre patch we're getting an extra day.
• 1:12:21
  The official launch of pre patch was announced, it's coming on
• 1:12:23
  February 26th at 3:00 PM Pacific Time.
• 1:12:27
  So we're getting 4 full days of pre patch.
• 1:12:32
  So Early Access is coming even earlier for everybody who bought
• 1:12:36
  the Midnight Epic Edition, and hopefully Collector's Editions
• 1:12:42
  are shipped and arrived before then.
• 1:12:47
  I really hope that I am terrified that they won't be.
• 1:12:52
  I'm more likely to get Heroes of the Storm revive before you get
• 1:12:56
  epic dish on time. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:01
  I'm really nervous about that. Really nervous about that.
• 1:13:05
  Yeah. Rufus, go buy Rufus.
• 1:13:07
  Get Rufus. He's got the cutest.
• 1:13:08
  He looks like Paw Patrol. It's like Paw Patrol right in
• 1:13:10
  your house. And he apparently does a little
• 1:13:13
  if you idle him. He built something.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the he, he does look like the cutest
• 1:13:19
  doggo. Well, the second cutest. 3rd
• 1:13:23
  cutest. The third cutest I was, Yeah,
• 1:13:25
  I'll accept third cutest. OK, just cause.
• 1:13:28
  Is it 'cause we have a tie for first, or are we as a tie for?
• 1:13:32
  1st So obviously it's it's Reya and then Shadow very close.
• 1:13:35
  Second of Shadow and then Rufus. It's a close.
• 1:13:41
  Second, we'll talk after we'll let's do a, we'll do a poll in
• 1:13:44
  the Discord, we'll put both of our dogs pictures up, and we'll
• 1:13:47
  let the Fazers, we'll let the Fazers choose.
• 1:13:50
  Fazers choose You each get this a bit two photos that that we'll
• 1:13:55
  put into the poll. The FAZ No, we can't actually do
• 1:13:59
  this. One of you will quit in rage.
• 1:14:00
  We can't let the fascination. No, I won't quit in rage.
• 1:14:03
  I will pretend to be OK with it until BlizzCon and then get my
• 1:14:06
  revenge like a good psycho there.
• 1:14:10
  You go OK, but. Unless I win.
• 1:14:13
  Unless I win. So if you want to save Lex's
• 1:14:16
  life, you know which dog to vote for.
• 1:14:19
  For legal reasons, that's a joke.
• 1:14:21
  Lex is not in any danger. I'm delightful.
• 1:14:25
  I am now scared. You know what?
• 1:14:27
  I'm not going to the US anymore. Psycho, Sean.
• 1:14:30
  Oh wow, anymore? That's where he draws the line.
• 1:14:37
  For legal reasons, that is a joke.
• 1:14:41
  Anyways, that's going to do it for us here.
• 1:14:45
  We are really looking forward to this entire year of World of
• 1:14:49
  Warcraft, and we're really glad that they built this state of
• 1:14:52
  Azeroth out of the road map that they used to just put out.
• 1:14:57
  But until next time, may all your hits be good.