Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 7/30/26: Iran Claims Fighter Jets Struck, Munitions Shortage, Fauci Pleads Fifth, AI Bubble Watch
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- 0:37Speaker 2: Indeed, we do heavy US retaliation against Iran overnight as
- 0:41Speaker 2: Iran claims that they destroyed three of our F thirty
- 0:44Speaker 2: five fighter jets. We will break down where we are
- 0:47Speaker 2: in the war today. Fauci name we haven't discussed for
- 0:51Speaker 2: a while. Grilled Yesterday pleads the fifth amid new revelations.
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- 2:31Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and start with Iran.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Indeed, so let me bring you up to speed. You
- 2:35Speaker 2: will recall yesterday when last we spoke, Trump had threatened
- 2:39Speaker 2: to beat the fing shit.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Out of Iran.
- 2:43Speaker 2: We now have seen a very heavy retaliation from the
- 2:47Speaker 2: US against what they described as a sneak attack from
- 2:50Speaker 2: Iran on Jordan. I'm kind of confused by this term
- 2:52Speaker 2: sneak attack. I don't think you typically broadcast your military tactics,
- 2:56Speaker 2: and we.
- 2:57Speaker 3: Are at war.
- 2:58Speaker 2: There is no ceasefire agreement in play as we speak.
- 3:00Speaker 2: But in any case, Iran had attempted to and they
- 3:03Speaker 2: claim were successful in striking US forces in Jordan. Trump
- 3:07Speaker 2: made this threat and then overnight delivered on some of
- 3:10Speaker 2: that rhetoric. Let's go ahead and put this map up
- 3:12Speaker 2: on the screen. We can see some of the strikes
- 3:14Speaker 2: that we're aware of, this being tracked by an ocent
- 3:17Speaker 2: account across Iran, Southern Iran in particular. You can see
- 3:21Speaker 2: near Kesham Island, of course, that is very significant. Meanwhile, Iran,
- 3:26Speaker 2: for their part, they are claiming that they were able
- 3:29Speaker 2: to take down or destroy three F thirty five fighter jets.
- 3:34Speaker 2: One account saying for the first time since the start
- 3:36Speaker 2: of the war, Iran's i ERGC announces the complete destruction
- 3:39Speaker 2: of three F thirty five fighter jets significant damage to
- 3:42Speaker 2: three others at an air base in Jordan through multiple
- 3:44Speaker 2: ballistic missiles targeting the deployment ramp and maintenance hangar this morning.
- 3:48Speaker 2: This is per Iranian media task name. Iran had not
- 3:51Speaker 2: previously announced the destruction of an F thirty five the
- 3:54Speaker 2: iergc AD. Several US officers and maintenance personnel were also killed. Again,
- 3:58Speaker 2: we have no confirmation of any of this as all
- 4:00Speaker 2: coming from the Iranian side. The strike comes in responds
- 4:02Speaker 2: to a US strike on two residential homes on Keshum
- 4:05Speaker 2: Island earlier this morning, killing my father, mother, and their
- 4:08Speaker 2: two year old child, and injuring two other children again
- 4:11Speaker 2: according to Iranian media reports. So we are back at
- 4:17Speaker 2: full scale war more or less, with this time being
- 4:21Speaker 2: the first time. I want to get your reaction just
- 4:22Speaker 2: to this piece that Iran took the initiative. Typically, Iran's
- 4:27Speaker 2: approach has been what they describe as an eye for
- 4:30Speaker 2: an eye. The US hits them, they respond, and it's
- 4:33Speaker 2: been sort of this horizontal escalation that has been their tactic.
- 4:38Speaker 2: This is the first time that they have been the
- 4:41Speaker 2: first ones to act and set the pace of escalation here.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Now their view is that the US reinstitution of the
- 4:47Speaker 2: blockade was itself an act of war for them to
- 4:50Speaker 2: respond to. Nevertheless, this seems to be a pretty extraordinary
- 4:53Speaker 2: development as we watch this war.
- 4:55Speaker 1: So reading a little bit and looking at some of
- 4:58Speaker 1: the background, I do think it's important to note, you know,
- 5:00Speaker 1: the US is describing it as a surprise. It's not
- 5:03Speaker 1: a surprise, and it's because it actually comes on the
- 5:06Speaker 1: heels not just of the blockade, but at that exact
- 5:09Speaker 1: time when Iran struck the US base, there was a
- 5:12Speaker 1: specific attempt to try and to force ships through that
- 5:15Speaker 1: Oman corridor outside of Iranian control. And so that's what
- 5:20Speaker 1: the response was directed to. But grand strategically, let's zoom
- 5:24Speaker 1: out and let's put that attack and then this one
- 5:26Speaker 1: a two please up on the screen. Iran and a
- 5:29Speaker 1: drone hit a US owned gas storage tank at Egypt's
- 5:33Speaker 1: Mediterranean report according to their maritime security and two gas
- 5:37Speaker 1: tankers caught fire. This is about an explosion of the
- 5:41Speaker 1: war and targeting oil assets, energy assets both in terms
- 5:46Speaker 1: of their allies in the hoo theies whenever it comes
- 5:48Speaker 1: to the Red Sea, the Bab al Mandeb. Straight now
- 5:51Speaker 1: you have going after Egypt and you know, basically a
- 5:54Speaker 1: warning for the Mediterranean port saying hey, you want to
- 5:56Speaker 1: go through Suez, you want to go through this pipeline.
- 5:58Speaker 1: The sum Ed pipeline will also be able to strike
- 6:00Speaker 1: you there. And of course we'll be able to strike
- 6:02Speaker 1: tankers in the Strait of hor Moves, which also happened
- 6:05Speaker 1: last night. It wasn't just these strikes that happened on Jordan.
- 6:08Speaker 1: So this strategy is basically to say we have a
- 6:11Speaker 1: complete dedication to choking off all Western attempts to circumvent
- 6:16Speaker 1: and to bring oil out of the Middle East. Period.
- 6:19Speaker 1: If we cannot export, Then nobody will export. Remember this
- 6:22Speaker 1: is what Gallibov had said previously. But even bigger above that,
- 6:26Speaker 1: what does all of this represent and treata PARSI laid
- 6:29Speaker 1: a lot of this out yesterday. He has a new
- 6:30Speaker 1: op ed out over at SETAEO. Here's what he says.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Beyond the prevailing assessment that Iran was probing Trump's resolve,
- 6:37Speaker 1: a deeper and riskier calculation Tehran is now making. It
- 6:40Speaker 1: has everything to do with Iran believing that the path
- 6:42Speaker 1: to piece is not directly through a deal, but rather
- 6:45Speaker 1: first through convincing Trump he has no realistic military option.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Only then will he commit himself fully to diplomacy. Needless
- 6:52Speaker 1: to say, it is extraordinarily risky strategy. It seeks to
- 6:54Speaker 1: compel diplomacy by increasing the perceived costs of military escalation,
- 6:58Speaker 1: yet it simultaneously raised the probability of the very conflict
- 7:01Speaker 1: it istensibly designed to prevent. This is the escalation trap
- 7:04Speaker 1: in a nutshell, which is both sides believe, and I've
- 7:07Speaker 1: said this as well. Neither side has bled enough, and
- 7:10Speaker 1: you know Iran has bled plenty, so many of their
- 7:13Speaker 1: people have been killed, but the IERGC remains intact. The Ayatola.
- 7:17Speaker 1: You know, supposedly it wants a nuclear weapon, even though
- 7:19Speaker 1: his father didn't want a nuclear weapon. They have the
- 7:22Speaker 1: ability to have deterrence. They are locked in a place
- 7:25Speaker 1: where they have the United States in a diplomatic or
- 7:27Speaker 1: in a strategic quagmire from the United States. We are
- 7:31Speaker 1: a grand and a great empire. So while yes it
- 7:34Speaker 1: is extremely dangerous, we're going to talk about our munition stockpile.
- 7:37Speaker 1: It's not a zero. Only only eighteen of our Americans
- 7:41Speaker 1: service members have been killed. So you know, I'm not
- 7:44Speaker 1: using that language. That's Trump's languages, like not that bad.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Look at Vietnam. Not that many Americans have died relatively
- 7:50Speaker 1: in the conflict. Several hundred have been wounded, but they've
- 7:53Speaker 1: mostly been able to cover that up. And gases, what
- 7:55Speaker 1: I mean, the national price right now four dollars and
- 7:58Speaker 1: nine cents a gallon. It hurts, but it's not absolutely catastrophic,
- 8:01Speaker 1: Like it's not gas lines in the nineteen seventies. So
- 8:03Speaker 1: Iran is like, that's the only way that we can
- 8:05Speaker 1: bring them to their knees. There's only real one way
- 8:08Speaker 1: to get to that point. So we're months away, you know,
- 8:11Speaker 1: potentially from their perspective, and Trump, you know, is completely torn.
- 8:15Speaker 1: There's a report from NBC News yesterday that he was
- 8:19Speaker 1: exasperated and he shouted at his advisors just two days
- 8:23Speaker 1: ago in the situation room. He doesn't know what to do.
- 8:26Speaker 1: He actually does want a deal, but he wants it
- 8:28Speaker 1: on his terms. Iran, though, has concluded, we cannot make
- 8:31Speaker 1: a deal with this man, most because of the way
- 8:34Speaker 1: that the memorandum of understanding fell apart. But you know,
- 8:36Speaker 1: more importantly, this is fascinating. They're looking at Venezuela. So
- 8:40Speaker 1: even though that Venezuela is currently an American colony run
- 8:44Speaker 1: by the US Secretary of State, it turns out, and
- 8:47Speaker 1: I did not even know this, is that they track
- 8:50Speaker 1: the relief of sanctions via Finsen, which is the art
- 8:53Speaker 1: which is a department in the US Treasury responsible for
- 8:56Speaker 1: removal of sanctions. Despite a lot of the rhetoric, it
- 8:59Speaker 1: hasn't happened. It took a very very long time. Iran
- 9:02Speaker 1: had the memoram of understanding. They saw that their money
- 9:04Speaker 1: never actually made it to their bank accounts. They're looking
- 9:07Speaker 1: at Venezuela and saying, look, Venezuela and Delsea. They surrendered
- 9:10Speaker 1: and They're still not even getting all of their money.
- 9:12Speaker 1: They're basically being pillaged by the United States. They also
- 9:15Speaker 1: look at Saudi Arabia, so they have three data points.
- 9:18Speaker 1: They have the Memorandum of Understanding, they have Venezuela, and
- 9:20Speaker 1: they have Saudi Arabia. Trump announces a nuclear deal in
- 9:23Speaker 1: immediately renex and then they also look at some of
- 9:26Speaker 1: the Democrats and the Republicans in Washington to their criticism
- 9:31Speaker 1: initially of the memorandum, and they go, even if we
- 9:33Speaker 1: were to do a deal with Trump, how do we
- 9:35Speaker 1: have any guarantee as Obama tried with the JCPOA they
- 9:39Speaker 1: would actually get through Congress. Now obviously his did. But
- 9:43Speaker 1: what they're looking at now, they don't even trust enough
- 9:46Speaker 1: of the Democrats, you know, currently to support a memorandum
- 9:49Speaker 1: of understanding. So they don't trust Trump. They don't trust
- 9:51Speaker 1: our political system, you know, at our system itself, both
- 9:55Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. They don't trust the ability of any
- 9:59Speaker 1: of their money getting to them. And this is all
- 10:01Speaker 1: just over the horror moves strait. None of this has
- 10:04Speaker 1: even to do with the nuclear issue, which is ten
- 10:06Speaker 1: times bigger and more contentious in everything.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we can put a five up on the
- 10:10Speaker 2: screen which contain a lot of this analysis. This is
- 10:12Speaker 2: someone who teaches at Johns Hopkins International Studies Institute, and
- 10:17Speaker 2: he says, you know, basically what Sager is outlining here
- 10:20Speaker 2: that in his conversations with counterparts in Tehran, it suggests
- 10:23Speaker 2: something else is at play. Iranian decision making is increasingly
- 10:26Speaker 2: shaped by an intense pessimism about what diplomacy with the
- 10:29Speaker 2: US can achieve. Most senior figures, whether pragmatists or hardliners,
- 10:35Speaker 2: simply don't.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Believe a deal is possible.
- 10:38Speaker 2: The pessimism has gotten worse since the MoU was signed.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And so he points to Asager saying, political horizon here. Okay,
- 10:45Speaker 2: not only do you have a split in the Trump
- 10:47Speaker 2: administration where even in the regime itself they don't agree
- 10:51Speaker 2: with each other, but then when ANMAU was signed, we
- 10:53Speaker 2: have democrats out there taking podshots saying, oh my god,
- 10:56Speaker 2: how can you cave to the what a gift to
- 10:58Speaker 2: the Mullahs, etcetera, et cetera. Looking at Venezuela, you control Venezuela,
- 11:03Speaker 2: you got everything you wanted here, you kidnap their leader,
- 11:05Speaker 2: and you still can't make good on the things you're
- 11:07Speaker 2: supposed to do with.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Regard to Venezuela.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Then they look at their own experience with the MoU,
- 11:12Speaker 2: where there was supposed to be sanctions relief and that
- 11:15Speaker 2: did not come through even in that short period of time.
- 11:18Speaker 2: So on every level, they're looking at this and saying,
- 11:22Speaker 2: how can we expect, like, even if Trump has the
- 11:25Speaker 2: best of intentions here, which who would like?
- 11:28Speaker 3: Who would really believe that?
- 11:29Speaker 2: But even if you bought that, they say, he is
- 11:32Speaker 2: unable to actually follow through through some you know, his
- 11:36Speaker 2: own personality defects. He's so erratic, he can't focus to
- 11:40Speaker 2: follow through on anything. His own administrations at war with itself.
- 11:44Speaker 2: They're in a political, you know, disaster landscape. Democrats are
- 11:48Speaker 2: taking political potshots that make this even more impossible. And
- 11:52Speaker 2: then just on the mechanics of it with the MoU,
- 11:55Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia, with Venezuela, they literally seem to be
- 11:59Speaker 2: unable to follow through.
- 12:01Speaker 3: And so what does that mean?
- 12:02Speaker 2: That means that you are not going to negotiate, at
- 12:05Speaker 2: least not in the short term. What that means is
- 12:07Speaker 2: you have to exact so much pain that it forces
- 12:12Speaker 2: an outcome. That is what they're trying to accomplish right now.
- 12:16Speaker 2: And so when you see them taking the initiative and
- 12:19Speaker 2: being the first ones to strike in this instance, it's
- 12:22Speaker 2: not necessarily because the hardliners won the argument, although in
- 12:25Speaker 2: a lot of ways I think the hardliners did win
- 12:27Speaker 2: the argument. It's because the Iranians recognize that they have
- 12:31Speaker 2: to push this thing forward.
- 12:32Speaker 3: They have to tighten the screws.
- 12:34Speaker 2: On an economic level, on a military level, on a
- 12:37Speaker 2: political level, if they're going to get to a place
- 12:40Speaker 2: where there can be some sort of a resolution. Because
- 12:43Speaker 2: to your point, Sager, yeah, Trump might like a deal,
- 12:46Speaker 2: but he wants a deal that's a fantasy. He wants
- 12:48Speaker 2: a deal that didn't exist when they were negotiating the
- 12:51Speaker 2: MoU and sure as hell doesn't exist now. So until
- 12:55Speaker 2: you puncture that Trumpian fantasy, you're going to continue to
- 13:00Speaker 2: be in this cycle of escalation. So that's where we
- 13:04Speaker 2: are right now. Let me put one more piece up
- 13:09Speaker 2: on the screen here, We'll actually two more pieces, put
- 13:11Speaker 2: a three up on the screen. This is just the
- 13:13Speaker 2: oil prices, you know, as we're back to war now,
- 13:16Speaker 2: they continue to climb. I think we're at roughly ninety dollars.
- 13:19Speaker 2: This says a benchmark index for worldwide crude prices climb
- 13:22Speaker 2: nearly eight percent on Wednesday, crossing above ninety dollars a barrel.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Now this morning it is doubt a bit. I don't
- 13:29Speaker 2: know why, but there you go. But I would certainly
- 13:31Speaker 2: expect the trajectory on oil in general to be going
- 13:35Speaker 2: up between everything that's happening in the Middle East plus
- 13:37Speaker 2: Ukrainian attacks on Russia not helping the situation. So there
- 13:41Speaker 2: is that, and then this is pretty interesting. Put a
- 13:44Speaker 2: four up on the screen here about Jordan. Jordanian's rare
- 13:49Speaker 2: challenge to their leaders tell the US to leave. So
- 13:54Speaker 2: for the first time you really have an uproar at
- 13:57Speaker 2: kind of an elite level within Jordan saying hey, you
- 14:01Speaker 2: know this whole being besties with the US and hosting
- 14:05Speaker 2: their forces here, which is not even something the Jordanian
- 14:07Speaker 2: government really acknowledged until now when it's undeniable. That's not
- 14:13Speaker 2: working out so well for us. The article reads. Hunters
- 14:16Speaker 2: of Jordanian political, legal and other figure signed an open
- 14:19Speaker 2: letter last week calling for the withdrawal of US forces
- 14:22Speaker 2: from Jordan, in a rare public challenge to the government,
- 14:24Speaker 2: which is long cracked down on free speech and dissent
- 14:27Speaker 2: In recent weeks, Iranian missiles and drones have increasingly targeted
- 14:30Speaker 2: US military forces and installations in Jordan, including early Wednesday.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Iranian officials said the attacks have repeatedly set off sirens
- 14:37Speaker 2: across the kingdom and pulled the country further into a
- 14:39Speaker 2: war it wanted no part of, but most Jordanians have
- 14:43Speaker 2: remained silent. People who signed the letter said they were
- 14:45Speaker 2: driven by a sense of national responsibility and concern that
- 14:48Speaker 2: the troop presence endangered Jordanian sovereignty. We maintain that their
- 14:54Speaker 2: presence exposes Jordan to security, political and economic risks that
- 14:58Speaker 2: serve no national interest and increase the likelihood of our
- 15:01Speaker 2: country being dragged into a regional conflict to which it
- 15:04Speaker 2: is not a party. This is the polar opposite of
- 15:07Speaker 2: the logic that has held around the region for years
- 15:11Speaker 2: and years and years, and it is the same reversal
- 15:14Speaker 2: of logic that is occurring across the region where they're going. Hey,
- 15:17Speaker 2: I thought it would protect us to have these US
- 15:20Speaker 2: forces here. I thought that would keep us safer. Instead,
- 15:24Speaker 2: this is putting us and our sovereignty at risk, and
- 15:26Speaker 2: for a war that most of our population and much
- 15:28Speaker 2: of the Jordanian population by the way is Palestinian that
- 15:31Speaker 2: our population does not agree with, so we don't want
- 15:34Speaker 2: to do this anymore. Big picture, this is one more
- 15:38Speaker 2: blow to the entire long term US military strategy of
- 15:43Speaker 2: putting these bases all around the world, and then it
- 15:45Speaker 2: turns out we can't protect the bases, and the bases
- 15:48Speaker 2: end up being magnets for these sorts of attack that
- 15:51Speaker 2: piss off the allies were supposed to be protecting.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Couldn't any American sympathize? We're like, look, are alive. I'm
- 15:56Speaker 1: going to pick a random country, Switzerland. I don't know
- 15:59Speaker 1: if we have an a lie. It's technically a neutral country.
- 16:01Speaker 1: But everyone's like, okay, whatever, you know, yeah, what he
- 16:04Speaker 1: thinks about it? Ben Switzerland. Let's say hypothetically we're to
- 16:07Speaker 1: get into a war, Americans either get killed or missile start.
- 16:10Speaker 1: We're like, whoa, whoa, Like what's going on here? Exactly? Also,
- 16:15Speaker 1: just to underline how extraordinary this is, the government of
- 16:18Speaker 1: Jordan has prosecuted people for criticizing not just the Jordanian
- 16:22Speaker 1: monarchy but literally its own allies. So this was an
- 16:24Speaker 1: extraordinary move. But we've actually talked a lot of Jordan
- 16:28Speaker 1: is a very unstable country. You got a king and
- 16:30Speaker 1: the queen, you got a parliament. You kind of have
- 16:32Speaker 1: like this weird dictatorship over the country. Eighty percent of
- 16:37Speaker 1: the population is not even Jordanian. They're all Palestinian. Obviously
- 16:40Speaker 1: they're pissed off already because of what Israel has done
- 16:43Speaker 1: to Palestine. They have a significant amount of a refugee population.
- 16:47Speaker 1: So always a very unstable system in and of.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Its safe among which is basically a western city in
- 16:53Speaker 2: the rural areas, which are you know, much much different
- 16:56Speaker 2: life being lived there.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Totally. It's a gorgeous country. I highly recommend to business
- 17:00Speaker 1: if you ever have the time to do so. But
- 17:01Speaker 1: even if you know, even as an American barely spending
- 17:04Speaker 1: any time there, I'm like, this is a very strange
- 17:07Speaker 1: system that is going on. So then you add on
- 17:09Speaker 1: top of this is the Israel conflict and now direct
- 17:12Speaker 1: attacks on Jordanian soil, which as you said, they didn't
- 17:15Speaker 1: even know about in many of these cases, like everyone
- 17:18Speaker 1: knew their American military there, but to this extent, absolutely not.
- 17:20Speaker 1: And they have ballistic missiles that are coming in. So
- 17:24Speaker 1: this is a very dangerous and precarious situation for the
- 17:27Speaker 1: United States. And there will be two things that happened.
- 17:30Speaker 1: The allies, the Gulf allies, or any of these Arab
- 17:32Speaker 1: allies will have to make one choice. They will either
- 17:34Speaker 1: have to do a bear hug and say, okay, now
- 17:35Speaker 1: we have to go all in. This is kind of
- 17:37Speaker 1: the UAE and or Saudi strategy, or you're going to
- 17:40Speaker 1: go in the Jordanian direction, possibly another direction where they go, okay,
- 17:43Speaker 1: we're going to push you out in the long term
- 17:45Speaker 1: and you're going to significantly hurt you know that any
- 17:48Speaker 1: type of alliance. But the bedrock of American policy has
- 17:52Speaker 1: basically just been always to make a deal with the regimes,
- 17:54Speaker 1: the monarchies and pay them off the population. They use
- 17:57Speaker 1: the money, and you know, they kind of dole it
- 17:59Speaker 1: out patronage kind of system to keep everybody happy. This
- 18:03Speaker 1: has upended that dramatically, which again is an Iranian grand
- 18:06Speaker 1: strategic victory. If we were to look at now perceived
- 18:09Speaker 1: control over the Strait of Hormuz as well as fracturing
- 18:13Speaker 1: the alliances of the Gulf countries, all while domestically hurting
- 18:17Speaker 1: the President of the United States, bleeding the US economy,
- 18:20Speaker 1: and perhaps like most importantly, actually revealing this, you basically tearing,
- 18:27Speaker 1: showing the entire world what the US military is actually
- 18:32Speaker 1: capable of. To have this happen is the greatest blow
- 18:36Speaker 1: to US prestige and perceive power, which ultimately is power
- 18:40Speaker 1: in and of itself, in my entire life, more than Iraq,
- 18:43Speaker 1: more than Afghanistan. To have a declaration that we will
- 18:47Speaker 1: overthrow your regime and not and then to have the
- 18:49Speaker 1: straight closed despite the fact that it was open and
- 18:51Speaker 1: showed zero ability. I mean, the America Sentcom is bragging.
- 18:55Speaker 1: They're like, we've put five million barrels out of this
- 18:58Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. Sounds like a lot, but they did
- 19:01Speaker 1: the map. That's only five million barrels per day on average.
- 19:03Speaker 1: There were twenty million, twenty five million moving before the strait.
- 19:07Speaker 1: So it's like, wow, you know, the full might of
- 19:09Speaker 1: the empire, hundreds of billions of dollars and that's all
- 19:12Speaker 1: you could get. I mean nobody I would not have
- 19:14Speaker 1: thought that. And I'm a huge pessimist on the military.
- 19:16Speaker 1: We're much weaker than even I thought.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, Like we showed our ass the whole world.
- 19:21Speaker 2: There's just no doubt about it. The whole strategy is flawed.
- 19:23Speaker 2: We're about to talk about, you know, the munition stockpile
- 19:26Speaker 2: and intercept our inventories, and that is a crucial immediate
- 19:31Speaker 2: term problem.
- 19:31Speaker 3: But I think the bigger problem.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Is just in the entire system and the entire strategy,
- 19:37Speaker 2: because and I saw policy tens are talking about this,
- 19:40Speaker 2: like let's say that the cupboards were full, to use
- 19:43Speaker 2: some Trumpian terminology here, that we hadn't given a bunch
- 19:45Speaker 2: of stuff to Ukraine, that we had everything that we need.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Do you really think that that was going to be
- 19:50Speaker 2: sufficient versus China? When you just think about they have
- 19:54Speaker 2: something like ninety five percent of the entire drone industries
- 19:56Speaker 2: in China. How does their industrial base compare to our
- 20:00Speaker 2: at this point? You guys, tell me which which side
- 20:03Speaker 2: has more industrial capacities? Spin up whatever they want? And
- 20:07Speaker 2: you know, Iran, they are a middle power. They are
- 20:11Speaker 2: certainly rising in power and prestige, but we can't even
- 20:14Speaker 2: compete against them. They've been much smarter, much more strategic,
- 20:17Speaker 2: and had a military that was much more prepared, better
- 20:20Speaker 2: prepared for waging modern warfare.
- 20:23Speaker 3: You know, this whole approach that we have is.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Just completely hollow, and so yeah, that has been thoroughly
- 20:30Speaker 2: revealed in this war. In a way that it really
- 20:32Speaker 2: wasn't in the Iraq war or in the Afghanistan war,
- 20:35Speaker 2: which we're also obviously embarrassing and you know, humiliating for
- 20:38Speaker 2: us in their own ways. Let's go ahead and turn
- 20:43Speaker 2: to those inventories, because this is a significant part of
- 20:47Speaker 2: the near term story, especially. I keep going back to
- 20:50Speaker 2: that NBC news report that we are all ready already
- 20:54Speaker 2: rationing interceptors having a pick and choose. Okay, we see
- 20:57Speaker 2: an Iranian ballistic missile coming in. Is this a really
- 21:00Speaker 2: important target? Our service member lives at risk? Are we
- 21:03Speaker 2: going to bother to actually try to take down these missiles?
- 21:07Speaker 2: Or are we going to just accept the damage here?
- 21:09Speaker 2: We're already in this place. So let's go ahead and
- 21:13Speaker 2: put a sixth up on the screen here. This has
- 21:16Speaker 2: some of the numbers and saga, why don't you go
- 21:18Speaker 2: ahead and explain what we're seeing here with the Patriot
- 21:20Speaker 2: and the THAD interceptors.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Right, And so CSI, first of all, can I just
- 21:24Speaker 1: debunk some Ben Shapiro level lunacy. So the latest coup
- 21:28Speaker 1: cope by the neocons is will missile stockpiles are classified again? CSIS.
- 21:35Speaker 1: The irony is is that CSIS here is basically an
- 21:37Speaker 1: arm of the Pentagon. They're like the most pro defense
- 21:40Speaker 1: think tank in all of Washington. So when they're publishing
- 21:43Speaker 1: these assessments, if they were completely bs the Pentagon, many
- 21:46Speaker 1: other people would say, oh, this is wrong. If they
- 21:48Speaker 1: have an entire page on their methodology, I recommend that
- 21:51Speaker 1: you go read it. The TLDR is if you're skeptical.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Especially The TLDR is basically that because Congress, all of
- 21:57Speaker 1: these weapons have to be paid for. The Congress is
- 22:00Speaker 1: the person who funds are the people who fund the Pentagon,
- 22:02Speaker 1: So the Pentagon have to make annual reports to Congress
- 22:05Speaker 1: about what it's buying and what the general inventory levels.
- 22:08Speaker 1: This can give you an extraordinary amount of confidence about
- 22:11Speaker 1: where the stockpiles were so pre war. And by the way,
- 22:13Speaker 1: when we say pre war, we're saying February twenty seventh.
- 22:16Speaker 1: It's actually very important to say those pre war numbers
- 22:19Speaker 1: were already catastrophically low because of what was going on
- 22:23Speaker 1: in Ukraine and because of what happened both under Biden
- 22:27Speaker 1: and Trump when we were shooting down a bunch of
- 22:29Speaker 1: Iranian missiles that were going after Israel. So all of
- 22:32Speaker 1: that being said, before the war February twenty seventh, the
- 22:35Speaker 1: number of patriots in the US arsenal was twenty three
- 22:39Speaker 1: hundred and thirty. They can say this with absolute confidence.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Now the current number as of July twenty seventh is
- 22:44Speaker 1: between seven hundred and fifty nine and eight hundred and
- 22:48Speaker 1: twenty seven. Just think about what a dramatic drop that
- 22:52Speaker 1: is in the overall stockpile. And just to give you
- 22:55Speaker 1: a just to give you an idea of what it
- 22:58Speaker 1: means now for choices by the United States, President Zelenski,
- 23:01Speaker 1: while he was in the Oval office said that just
- 23:03Speaker 1: to get Ukraine through the summer, they need three hundred
- 23:07Speaker 1: patriots to be given to them, which would be almost
- 23:10Speaker 1: half of the stockpile. This currently exists just in the
- 23:14Speaker 1: US inventory alone. Also, for those who are complaining about
- 23:17Speaker 1: these numbers, these numbers include the replenishment that have come
- 23:21Speaker 1: since the beginning of the war. Just again to show
- 23:23Speaker 1: you all how disastrous to suspend that that number is
- 23:26Speaker 1: actually worse. So four hundred and fifty two dads in
- 23:29Speaker 1: the US arsenal before the war on February twenty seventh,
- 23:33Speaker 1: that was already twenty five percent lower than where it
- 23:36Speaker 1: was back in last June, I believe under Operation Midnight Hammer,
- 23:41Speaker 1: when the United States in the Twelve Day War fired
- 23:43Speaker 1: twenty five percent of all thads that we had in
- 23:46Speaker 1: the US stockpile, just to protect Israel, not to protect America,
- 23:49Speaker 1: to protect Israel. The current number is now between two
- 23:51Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four and two hundred and seventy eight.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Now remember that the number of new thads that are
- 23:57Speaker 1: coming online into the system twelve. According to the Pentagon,
- 24:01Speaker 1: they take forever to build and they have massive contracts now.
- 24:05Speaker 1: But you can try and crash, you know, the defense
- 24:08Speaker 1: base and all of that. It's not going to work
- 24:10Speaker 1: unless it's like World War two total inventory. This is
- 24:13Speaker 1: I mean, there's no other way to say it. This
- 24:15Speaker 1: is terrifying for the world because and look Taiwan, like,
- 24:19Speaker 1: let's put that aside, like because at that point, I
- 24:21Speaker 1: don't even you know, even before all of this, the
- 24:23Speaker 1: CSIS war games from two years ago, when the stockpile
- 24:27Speaker 1: was much higher, CSIS again had a war game where
- 24:30Speaker 1: they concluded the United States would lose. So that was
- 24:32Speaker 1: then We're long past that. We're at a point where
- 24:36Speaker 1: South Korea, Japan, the Straight of Malacca. You know, you
- 24:40Speaker 1: think you care about horror moves, go and take a
- 24:41Speaker 1: look at Malacca and what moves through there on a
- 24:43Speaker 1: daily basis. Like we are now at a point where
- 24:46Speaker 1: I'm talking about extremely critical situations, ones of either NATO
- 24:53Speaker 1: or quasi NATO type allies, where it starts to get
- 24:56Speaker 1: on the table. And somebody made a good point the
- 24:59Speaker 1: actual impact of this in the near term. We can
- 25:02Speaker 1: keep this pitoty stuff going with Iran for you know,
- 25:05Speaker 1: potentially another year or two. That's not the problem. The
- 25:08Speaker 1: problem is is that when the next president gets sworn
- 25:11Speaker 1: on sworn in in January twenty twenty nine, he's going
- 25:14Speaker 1: to get a briefing by the INDO Paycom, by the
- 25:17Speaker 1: you know, the people were responsible for that region, and
- 25:20Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, look sir, this is how money
- 25:23Speaker 1: we got, this is how many it's going to come online.
- 25:25Speaker 1: You can try and throw money at the problem. The
- 25:27Speaker 1: Trump administration certainly is, but the reality is that if
- 25:30Speaker 1: this X and Y happens, there's not a fucking thing
- 25:33Speaker 1: you can do about it. That's literally, I mean, that's
- 25:34Speaker 1: not my language, that's Trump's language. Whatever it comes to Taiwan,
- 25:38Speaker 1: he said that in twenty twenty so just to give people,
- 25:42Speaker 1: you know, an example of what this means for the
- 25:44Speaker 1: retrenchment of the United States and part of why this
- 25:47Speaker 1: war has been so absolutely catastrophic. And we've seen it already.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Let's put a eight up on the screen for example,
- 25:54Speaker 1: which we've talked about previously. The military has to now
- 25:56Speaker 1: start rationing. If anybody watched that movie that was on
- 26:00Speaker 1: Netflix about the nuclear strike, you know, there was a
- 26:02Speaker 1: nuclear missile as the whole plot is that it's incoming
- 26:05Speaker 1: to the United States and they only fire two ground
- 26:08Speaker 1: based interceptors to shoot down the missile, and they fail,
- 26:12Speaker 1: and somebody in the control room or situation room is like,
- 26:14Speaker 1: why don't we fire another one? They're like, we can't.
- 26:16Speaker 1: We have to ration it because we only have forty
- 26:17Speaker 1: eight so in case, we have to save it for future.
- 26:20Speaker 1: So you have to sit there and let ten million
- 26:21Speaker 1: people die. That's the most extreme example of what rationing
- 26:24Speaker 1: looks like. This is what rationing looks like on a
- 26:26Speaker 1: much more micro scale. We have all these bases spread
- 26:29Speaker 1: out across the world, and what is Iran telling us
- 26:32Speaker 1: We can hit you in Jordan, we can hit you
- 26:34Speaker 1: in Saudi, we can hit you in Bahrain. We can
- 26:36Speaker 1: hit you in Kuwait, even in Egypt. You are not safe.
- 26:40Speaker 1: You know, you are not safe anywhere around this world.
- 26:43Speaker 1: And then what does that mean. It means that you
- 26:45Speaker 1: also have this Ukraine situation which is happening. They're begging
- 26:49Speaker 1: for three hundred missiles, by the way, just this morning,
- 26:51Speaker 1: and the Blacks either lighten up a bunch of Russian tankers, right,
- 26:54Speaker 1: so you could see the globalization of this conflict, the
- 26:58Speaker 1: extreme rationing which is happening. And I have not even
- 27:00Speaker 1: mentioned Asia, you know, in what's actually breaking out, which
- 27:04Speaker 1: is where any of this would actually be important. So
- 27:07Speaker 1: you know, it's not hyperbolic to say that this has
- 27:10Speaker 1: destroyed the ability in the near term of the United
- 27:13Speaker 1: States to project power around the world. It has actually
- 27:16Speaker 1: removed it in a dramatic sense. Even if we are
- 27:19Speaker 1: to throw money at the problem, which we are, it
- 27:22Speaker 1: will take years through replanet just to where we are
- 27:25Speaker 1: where we were, and where we were was already a disaster.
- 27:28Speaker 2: And here's the thing that it appears that the Iranian
- 27:30Speaker 2: strategy was to use their older, more outdated missiles in
- 27:34Speaker 2: the beginning of the conflict so that we would burn
- 27:37Speaker 2: up our interceptor stockpiles dealing with those, and now they're
- 27:41Speaker 2: starting to deploy their more advance which is highly sophisticated
- 27:44Speaker 2: weaponry when we are in the position of having to ration.
- 27:49Speaker 2: So they've been very intelligent about that. They also we've
- 27:51Speaker 2: talked long about how they go after the radar systems
- 27:55Speaker 2: so that we have less ability to know what they're
- 27:57Speaker 2: doing and be able to intercept their missiles as they're
- 28:01Speaker 2: coming in. They've sort of, you know, in a very
- 28:04Speaker 2: systematic fashion, degraded our capacity there. And then if you
- 28:08Speaker 2: look at that chart of you know, what we have
- 28:11Speaker 2: in terms of patriots and thads, the number of thads
- 28:14Speaker 2: hasn't changed at all since the ceasefire, which would indicate,
- 28:18Speaker 2: I mean, not only did we not replenish, it would
- 28:20Speaker 2: indicate we haven't been firing any We've basically stopped firing
- 28:24Speaker 2: fads because we are so limited in our inventory of
- 28:28Speaker 2: them at this point.
- 28:29Speaker 1: When the radar was hit by the Iranians, I think
- 28:32Speaker 1: on day one of yeah, the conflict and this, you know,
- 28:36Speaker 1: just to underscore like the total number is the whole world.
- 28:40Speaker 1: It's not just about what's happening in Sentcom. Remember how
- 28:42Speaker 1: we just strip all those thads out of South Korea.
- 28:45Speaker 1: I look at this, it's never coming back. It's not
- 28:47Speaker 1: coming back anytime soon. They should be real nervous up there,
- 28:51Speaker 1: you know, being neighbors forty five minutes away from the
- 28:54Speaker 1: fourth largest military in the world with a bunch of
- 28:56Speaker 1: nuclear tipped missiles. I mean, that's terrifying.
- 28:59Speaker 2: And it's not going to be like Jordan and the
- 29:01Speaker 2: Gulf Arab allies that are rethinking their whole approach to
- 29:04Speaker 2: how they deal with the US and how they deal
- 29:06Speaker 2: with China and the level of antagonism that they have
- 29:09Speaker 2: towards China, Russia, Iran, all of our allies are looking
- 29:13Speaker 2: at this and rethinking their entire approach. And at the
- 29:16Speaker 2: same time, it's put a nine up on the screen.
- 29:19Speaker 2: You know, it's been very, very difficult to accurately cover
- 29:23Speaker 2: what is happening, how much damage. We're having to rely
- 29:26Speaker 2: on these ocent accounts and satellite data that is frequently
- 29:29Speaker 2: out of date, or looking up with the Iranian say
- 29:32Speaker 2: and what they claim. And part of it is that
- 29:34Speaker 2: you are now having an even more aggressive crackdown on
- 29:37Speaker 2: information coming out of the region. So Centcom commander reportedly
- 29:41Speaker 2: said videos like this one that was shared previously that
- 29:44Speaker 2: was someone a service member that was at that base
- 29:47Speaker 2: in Jordan when it was hit that we shared last time,
- 29:49Speaker 2: can help a run with targeting during missile and drone attacks,
- 29:53Speaker 2: and deployed US soldiers could soon be ordered to surrender
- 29:56Speaker 2: their phones. So they are really trying to crack down
- 30:00Speaker 2: on any sort of footage or documentation of the damage
- 30:04Speaker 2: that Iran has been able to inflict across the region,
- 30:08Speaker 2: both because of you know, I guess helping with targeting,
- 30:11Speaker 2: although it seems to me like Iran is doing just
- 30:13Speaker 2: fine with targeting those it didn't really need the service
- 30:16Speaker 2: members videos, but in addition, just for propaganda values, because
- 30:20Speaker 2: when you see this coming out, Yeah, you don't want
- 30:23Speaker 2: the American public seeing that Ron is able to strike
- 30:27Speaker 2: these bases and the fear and terror of our service
- 30:30Speaker 2: members and the amount of damage being done to our equipment.
- 30:33Speaker 2: There is a total blackout on information coming out of
- 30:36Speaker 2: the entire region, very Israeli coded.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, they do. They literally do not want us
- 30:41Speaker 1: to see what our men and women are having to go. Honestly,
- 30:45Speaker 1: it is more equally terrifying when you look at that
- 30:47Speaker 1: because that video it's like an office, you know, it's
- 30:50Speaker 1: like sitting in an office like any normal but then
- 30:53Speaker 1: you run out and there's sirens going off and you're
- 30:55Speaker 1: running to a bomb shelter. I mean, you have a
- 30:58Speaker 1: vision of service members who get killed in combat as
- 31:01Speaker 1: like being on a front line or engaging about No,
- 31:04Speaker 1: that's not how it works anymore. It's coming from a
- 31:06Speaker 1: terrifying threat in the air from thousands of miles away
- 31:09Speaker 1: or you know, thousands of kilometers away. That is what's
- 31:12Speaker 1: scary about this entire thing. And we can feel the
- 31:15Speaker 1: terror and try and put ourselves in that situation and say,
- 31:18Speaker 1: oh my god, I cannot believe that our people are
- 31:20Speaker 1: through that are going through this last thing. I just
- 31:23Speaker 1: want to highlight just to show you all, you know
- 31:25Speaker 1: what they spend all our money on. Let's put this
- 31:27Speaker 1: next one up here on the screen. I mean, this
- 31:30Speaker 1: is bonkers. So just yesterday, the Pentagon has now committed
- 31:34Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty billion dollars for Patriot missiles
- 31:40Speaker 1: and for submarines. This this includes half of this is
- 31:46Speaker 1: just for Patriot missiles from Lockheed Martin fifty nine billion.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Don't forget this is on top of an additional thirty
- 31:54Speaker 1: five billion dollar multi year contract for that interceptors that
- 31:58Speaker 1: Lockheed had all ready signed. So let's put together one
- 32:03Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars just to be able to rebuild many
- 32:07Speaker 1: of the munitions that were just fired already in the
- 32:10Speaker 1: Iran War and potentially stock up for in the years
- 32:14Speaker 1: to come. But even if you were to look deeply
- 32:16Speaker 1: inside of this the contract, which by the way, is
- 32:19Speaker 1: going to extend now for multi years because that's how
- 32:21Speaker 1: long it takes to be able to build, you also
- 32:23Speaker 1: would have to take a look and say, are we
- 32:26Speaker 1: even getting our money's worth? Remember the New Patriots cost
- 32:30Speaker 1: four million apiece and take years to produce just one
- 32:34Speaker 1: of those missiles. So we're paying top dog. Just in
- 32:36Speaker 1: case you're wondering, both Lockheed Martin and RTX, which is
- 32:39Speaker 1: a submarine builder, this month raised their twenty twenty six
- 32:43Speaker 1: profit and revenue projections on the strength of their ammunition
- 32:46Speaker 1: sales this America instead, and that's in their terms of
- 32:49Speaker 1: their profit right, so their profit's going up. We're getting
- 32:52Speaker 1: builked every time you pay your taxes. We pay our
- 32:55Speaker 1: quarterly taxes as business owners. This is the shit that
- 32:58Speaker 1: it's going to. You know, I was telling you about
- 33:01Speaker 1: my Amtrak experience. I'm not a huge national rail guy
- 33:04Speaker 1: or whatever, but on the estelic corridor. Yeah, I think
- 33:06Speaker 1: it makes sense, you know, in these highly connected cities.
- 33:09Speaker 1: So yesterday I was in New York. I'm coming home.
- 33:13Speaker 1: I'm on the new AM track, the next gen AM track,
- 33:16Speaker 1: but which, by the way, I paid more for to
- 33:18Speaker 1: go from New York to Washington, DC than I paid
- 33:21Speaker 1: to go from Tokyo to Kyoto on a much better train,
- 33:24Speaker 1: which is built in the nineteen nineties. The train broke
- 33:26Speaker 1: down in the middle of nowhere. We had to get
- 33:29Speaker 1: off the train, literally in the middle of nowhere, and
- 33:32Speaker 1: go from one train to another train on a rinky
- 33:35Speaker 1: dink little bridge and then sit on our suitcases in
- 33:38Speaker 1: the aisle. That happened here in the United States of
- 33:40Speaker 1: America yesterday, not just to me, to a lot hundreds
- 33:43Speaker 1: of other people. Okay. That's on a nationally funded AM
- 33:46Speaker 1: track with the next gen and hundreds of billions of
- 33:49Speaker 1: dollars from the United States government, from you know, New
- 33:51Speaker 1: York government, all these municipalities. This is what we spend
- 33:54Speaker 1: our money, you know, we spend our money on these missiles.
- 33:56Speaker 1: And then even when we do spend our money on
- 33:58Speaker 1: rail or innovation, or thing shit literally breaks down, would
- 34:01Speaker 1: never happen. You know, in Japan, they give you an
- 34:03Speaker 1: apology if something happened, if you're five minutes later, five
- 34:06Speaker 1: seconds late, something like that, they give you a letter
- 34:08Speaker 1: saying we're very sorry for their disruption in our service.
- 34:11Speaker 1: I'm just giving an example of like, it's not woe
- 34:13Speaker 1: is me, but that's the state of our infrastructure of
- 34:15Speaker 1: our country. Not to mention all of our other economic problems.
- 34:18Speaker 1: And this we's been one hundred and twenty billion. Nobody
- 34:20Speaker 1: even blinks an eye one hundred and twenty But do
- 34:22Speaker 1: you have any you know how many Amtrak you could
- 34:24Speaker 1: build if that's what you wanted to do. Yeah, cars, investment, whatever,
- 34:27Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 34:28Speaker 3: Here's here's some examples.
- 34:30Speaker 2: So for a one hundred and twenty billion dollar, you
- 34:31Speaker 2: could fund all of SNAP for a year, all of Snap.
- 34:34Speaker 2: You could institute universal pre K for the majority of
- 34:38Speaker 2: three and four year olds, right, you could fully expand headstart.
- 34:42Speaker 2: If you want to build housing, you could build somewhere
- 34:45Speaker 2: around six hundred thousand affordable apartment units or four hundred
- 34:49Speaker 2: and sixty one thousand basic housing units like of standalone
- 34:55Speaker 2: single home variety. So that's what we're talking about here,
- 34:59Speaker 2: I'm going to just throw this all one hundred and
- 35:00Speaker 2: twenty billion. Of course, the military is getting even more money,
- 35:04Speaker 2: and then you look at the results. It genuinely is
- 35:07Speaker 2: mind boggling. What is the money going for? What are
- 35:11Speaker 2: we accomplishing with this money? And then you have Trump
- 35:13Speaker 2: out there making comments like, yeah, we can't have nice things.
- 35:16Speaker 2: You know, it'd be nice to have affordable jod here.
- 35:18Speaker 2: We can't do that because we got to find our military. Really,
- 35:21Speaker 2: why what is our military doing? It's just you know,
- 35:24Speaker 2: revealing to the world that we have spent. All of
- 35:27Speaker 2: this is thrown at these defense industrial contractors. They are
- 35:30Speaker 2: making money hand over fist, and the whole strategy is
- 35:34Speaker 2: rotten to its core, but that won't stop them from continuing.
- 35:37Speaker 2: We need one hundred billion more and a hundred billion more.
- 35:39Speaker 2: The whole defense budgets got to go up to one
- 35:41Speaker 2: point five trillion Pete Hegseth tells us that the greatest
- 35:44Speaker 2: threat to America is that we don't fund the Defense
- 35:47Speaker 2: Department to a one point five trillion dollar price tag.
- 35:51Speaker 2: That is so incredibly insane. And think about your town,
- 35:55Speaker 2: Think about what a tiny fraction of that money could
- 35:58Speaker 2: mean for your town. It's crazy, as our infrastructure crumbles,
- 36:02Speaker 2: as our airports are disgusting, as you know, our bridges
- 36:05Speaker 2: are degrade, all that stuff, the trains, the schools, all
- 36:09Speaker 2: of it, and you know, in very minimal, bare bone
- 36:12Speaker 2: social safety net that's constantly being attacked and made even
- 36:15Speaker 2: more threadbare, and just money hand over fist into this
- 36:20Speaker 2: gaping maw which is the Pentagon.
- 36:22Speaker 1: It's so so absolutely insane. And yeah, look I'm not
- 36:26Speaker 1: a dove. I just think that we could build a
- 36:28Speaker 1: much more effective I think we can have both. I
- 36:31Speaker 1: really do. We're so phenomenally rich as a country. You
- 36:35Speaker 1: could have I mean, look at the around you know,
- 36:36Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars drones, thirty thousand dollar drones. If we
- 36:39Speaker 1: had to rethink of the entire thing. Yeah, we could
- 36:41Speaker 1: be safe. We could have a better strategy, it would
- 36:44Speaker 1: be cheaper, and we could have cool trains, we could
- 36:46Speaker 1: have cool roads, we could have cool cars. You know,
- 36:48Speaker 1: we could have all of it if we want it,
- 36:49Speaker 1: or just don't start a war. Don't have bases in
- 36:51Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere for literally no reason that are
- 36:54Speaker 1: just sitting there, you know, ready to be sitting ducks
- 36:56Speaker 1: but yeah, this is where nobody in DC will say
- 37:00Speaker 1: one word about the eye popping number here. They won't
- 37:02Speaker 1: even question how much it actually costs, the delivery timeline,
- 37:05Speaker 1: are we actually getting, you know, what we want from it?
- 37:08Speaker 1: It is like that is the true bipartisan consensus, where
- 37:11Speaker 1: oh it's all good, it's just.
- 37:12Speaker 2: Yeah, well they see it as like a jobs program.
- 37:14Speaker 2: In there, it is just program and that's yeah. I mean,
- 37:16Speaker 2: that's increasingly what our economy is, like building, making bombs
- 37:21Speaker 2: and AI and gambling. That's what our economy is basically.
- 37:26Speaker 2: So that's what our show's focused on.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Let's get to Fauci. Okay, everybody trip down memory lane.
- 37:35Speaker 1: Doctor Anthony Fauci of COVID fame returned to Capitol Hill
- 37:40Speaker 1: for to testify before the United States Senate, specifically after
- 37:45Speaker 1: the release of his new diary, which he apparently was
- 37:48Speaker 1: keeping on a laptop computer owned by the federal government.
- 37:51Speaker 1: In eleven hundred pages, he reveled in his own fame
- 37:55Speaker 1: that was currently going on. He gave his thoughts about
- 37:57Speaker 1: the pandemic, about the President, about himself, about members of
- 38:00Speaker 1: the press, but also, and I think most importantly about
- 38:03Speaker 1: whether COVID nineteen leaked from the Wuhan lab in twenty nineteen,
- 38:08Speaker 1: or whether it emerged naturally via the wet market or
- 38:12Speaker 1: some other finatural phenomenon out of China. So what we're
- 38:16Speaker 1: going to start with here is doctor Fauci testifying before Congress.
- 38:20Speaker 1: When I say testifying, he delivered only an opening statement
- 38:23Speaker 1: attacking Senator Ran Paul, who had called him to testify before,
- 38:26Speaker 1: then saying he intended to plead the fifth to protect
- 38:29Speaker 1: himself from criminally incriminating himself before Congress. So let's take
- 38:34Speaker 1: a listen.
- 38:35Speaker 4: Given Senator Poll's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution,
- 38:42Speaker 4: his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly
- 38:49Speaker 4: releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me,
- 38:59Speaker 4: the only conclusion I can reach is that the sole
- 39:04Speaker 4: reason he is calling me before this committee is to
- 39:08Speaker 4: get me to say something, anything, that could vindicate his
- 39:14Speaker 4: repeated public pledges that I end up in his words
- 39:19Speaker 4: quote behind bars unquote. Any reasonable person who has followed
- 39:27Speaker 4: his unhinged obsession with me would readily come to the
- 39:33Speaker 4: same conclusion.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Therefore, although it pains.
- 39:37Speaker 4: Me to do so because of the respect I have
- 39:42Speaker 4: for the legislative branch of government and my decades long
- 39:46Speaker 4: record of cooperating with Congress. Under the advice of my attorneys,
- 39:53Speaker 4: I will invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment of
- 39:56Speaker 4: the Constitution to refrain from answering you have questions?
- 40:01Speaker 1: Do you have that in front of you? On the
- 40:04Speaker 1: Advisive Council?
- 40:05Speaker 4: I respectfully declined to answer it based upon my rights
- 40:09Speaker 4: under the Fifth Amendment.
- 40:10Speaker 1: Let the Constitution. Let the record record.
- 40:13Speaker 5: That the witness has refused to answer whether there's a
- 40:16Speaker 5: folder in front of him based on his Fifth Amendment right.
- 40:20Speaker 5: Have you refused this pardon or do you have any
- 40:23Speaker 5: reason to believe this full and unconditional pardon, this grant
- 40:26Speaker 5: of immunity would somehow require you to plead the Fifth Amendment.
- 40:33Speaker 4: On the Advisive Council, I respectfully declined to answer based
- 40:37Speaker 4: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
- 40:41Speaker 5: Do you still refuse to answer the questions.
- 40:45Speaker 1: On the Advisive Council?
- 40:47Speaker 4: I respectfully declined to answer it based upon my rights
- 40:50Speaker 4: under the Fifth.
- 40:51Speaker 1: Amendment of the Constitution.
- 40:53Speaker 5: Were you ever made aware of gain of function research
- 40:56Speaker 5: on monkey pox being conducted at the National Biodefense Analysis
- 41:00Speaker 5: and Countermeasure Center, and back at fourteen dreck.
- 41:07Speaker 4: On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined to answer
- 41:10Speaker 4: based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
- 41:14Speaker 1: So that was the entire thing. You could see his
- 41:17Speaker 1: opening statement there. He still believes he's being unfairly prosecuted,
- 41:20Speaker 1: specifically around what happened with COVID nineteen, whether it leaked
- 41:24Speaker 1: from the lab or not. And there actually were a
- 41:26Speaker 1: lot of clues in Fauci's diary. So let's go ahead
- 41:29Speaker 1: and put this up here on the screen. All of
- 41:31Speaker 1: these have been released from Fauci's own diary, which again
- 41:34Speaker 1: he wrote on a federal government laptop, eleven hundred pages
- 41:37Speaker 1: or so. This is actually probably the single most important quote.
- 41:41Speaker 1: And for everyone who has currently joining us for the subject,
- 41:44Speaker 1: I know that it's all get quite a bit tedious.
- 41:46Speaker 1: We used to have all the details completely memorized and
- 41:49Speaker 1: here on lab leak, so I'll try to, you know,
- 41:51Speaker 1: simplify it as much as I can. So here, Senator
- 41:54Speaker 1: Paul writes that from Fauci's own diary, he says, quote,
- 41:58Speaker 1: now we know the the market was not the source.
- 42:01Speaker 1: It was the amplifier. So to make that very clear,
- 42:05Speaker 1: what Fauci was writing there was quote, now we know
- 42:08Speaker 1: that the wet market aka the wet market were allegedly
- 42:11Speaker 1: the bats and the other animals and you forget the
- 42:14Speaker 1: pangolins and all that were being sold, was not the
- 42:17Speaker 1: source of COVID nineteen. Quote, it was the amplifier. The amplifier,
- 42:21Speaker 1: by the way, that theory makes sense if you trace
- 42:24Speaker 1: back the timeline of when COVID nineteen, in my belief,
- 42:27Speaker 1: leaked from the Wuhan lab. Now, what this also explains
- 42:31Speaker 1: already is that as of January twenty twenty, in this
- 42:33Speaker 1: initial entry he says that the wet market was off
- 42:36Speaker 1: the table in his own private notes. In his defense,
- 42:39Speaker 1: if you read the totality of the diary, what he's
- 42:42Speaker 1: saying is, now we know that the market was not
- 42:44Speaker 1: the source. It was the amplifier. In the context of
- 42:47Speaker 1: wrestling of whether it leaked from the lab.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Or not, he says, having said that somewhere the virus
- 42:52Speaker 2: jump from animals to humans. So he's just indicating here, Okay,
- 42:57Speaker 2: the timeline doesn't work out for it to be the
- 42:59Speaker 2: wet market, but in his diary he's claiming he still
- 43:02Speaker 2: believes that it was zoonotic transmission from animal to human
- 43:07Speaker 2: and not allatly right.
- 43:08Speaker 1: And so then this is where getting to the timeline.
- 43:11Speaker 1: And again I apologize if this is a bit tedious,
- 43:13Speaker 1: but it does matter for whether any of this happened
- 43:15Speaker 1: and what the actual cover up was, which, in my opinion,
- 43:17Speaker 1: is the actual crime if you were to say of
- 43:20Speaker 1: all of this. So what happened is that as of
- 43:22Speaker 1: January thirty first, so five days after he makes this entry,
- 43:25Speaker 1: he says that there are now conspiracy theories that the
- 43:28Speaker 1: virus was given gain a function via inserted mutations and
- 43:31Speaker 1: released in Wuhan, as in he was aware of and
- 43:34Speaker 1: naming the engineered hypothesis. The next day, on February first,
- 43:38Speaker 1: he has a secret call. Again, none of this was
- 43:41Speaker 1: disclosed to the American people at the time of leading virologists.
- 43:45Speaker 1: There were some let's say, there were twelve virologists that
- 43:48Speaker 1: were on this call. Ten out of the twelve did
- 43:52Speaker 1: not believe entirely in the natural origin hypothesis. Two of
- 43:56Speaker 1: them did. So what Fauci did is to to one
- 44:00Speaker 1: of those scientists, Anderson, to draft a paper called Proximal Origin,
- 44:05Speaker 1: which is then published nationally in a leading medical magazine.
- 44:10Speaker 1: That paper then becomes the basis through which Fauci is
- 44:14Speaker 1: able to come before the American people in February and
- 44:17Speaker 1: in March and to say that independent scientific research has
- 44:21Speaker 1: now backed up the claim that COVID nineteen came from
- 44:25Speaker 1: the wet market aka zoonotic transmission aka not from the
- 44:30Speaker 1: Wuhan lab. He also, and we can actually show this
- 44:33Speaker 1: before if we want to, please, had several instances in
- 44:37Speaker 1: which he spoke with the head of China's own CDC
- 44:40Speaker 1: and in fact you had been transmitted very incorrect information
- 44:46Speaker 1: or sorry, correct information which he then did not distribute
- 44:49Speaker 1: to the public. For example, gu confirmed that asymptomatic people
- 44:52Speaker 1: with COVID could transmit Fauci wrote that the Wuhan of
- 44:54Speaker 1: Health officials did not tell him this, and thus he
- 44:57Speaker 1: gave out false information, a lapse quote that likely allowed
- 45:00Speaker 1: the outbreak to take hold. This all reflects back on
- 45:03Speaker 1: the original discourse in Fauci's own testimony and guidance to
- 45:08Speaker 1: the American people about whether they should or should not
- 45:11Speaker 1: wear a mask. There's also, in my opinion, when we
- 45:14Speaker 1: really look at a lot of the Lab League coverage,
- 45:17Speaker 1: the fact is is that inside of this diary it
- 45:19Speaker 1: details even more of what we knew previously about the
- 45:23Speaker 1: cover up of the potential lab league hypothesis. And I
- 45:26Speaker 1: will say here again I cannot say with one hundred
- 45:29Speaker 1: percent certainty that COVID leaked from the Lab. I could
- 45:32Speaker 1: give you ninety five percent. The only reason that I
- 45:34Speaker 1: can't give you one hundred percent is because China destroyed
- 45:36Speaker 1: most of the evidence. And I think ultimately what this
- 45:40Speaker 1: comes down to is this general like there's I get it.
- 45:44Speaker 1: It's so parts. You know, one of the Republican senators
- 45:46Speaker 1: what did he say is like who the fuck do
- 45:48Speaker 1: you think you are? I'm like, okay, man, Like you know,
- 45:50Speaker 1: it's like we're doing the dance six years later. In
- 45:52Speaker 1: a certain respect, I.
- 45:54Speaker 2: Do want pretending that it wasn't Trump was and it was,
- 45:57Speaker 2: by the.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Way, totally fair. And I think you know, with the
- 46:01Speaker 1: Lab leak, we had Annie Jacobson on about biological war.
- 46:04Speaker 1: And if you're a LIB, you want RFK Junior running
- 46:07Speaker 1: all these BSL four laboratories. You want Pete Hegseth in
- 46:11Speaker 1: charge of military anthrax and all of these other bioweapons
- 46:14Speaker 1: that are in our face, Like this is not partisan.
- 46:17Speaker 1: The point is is that we got lucky with COVID.
- 46:20Speaker 1: This sounds crazy to say, had a one percent, you know,
- 46:23Speaker 1: fatality rate, mostly old people and fat people. If this
- 46:27Speaker 1: was the Spanish flu or something like that and it
- 46:30Speaker 1: actually affected young adults and children, I mean, it would
- 46:32Speaker 1: have been madness and we would have had millions more
- 46:36Speaker 1: people that would have been killed. So the point is
- 46:39Speaker 1: is like, we actually have to reconcile with lab leak
- 46:41Speaker 1: and what happened here just to be able to deal
- 46:44Speaker 1: with whatever the next pandemic is, and instead we've had
- 46:46Speaker 1: total partisan retrenchment on what I again think is a
- 46:50Speaker 1: very basic issue of elite from the LAB. We have
- 46:53Speaker 1: done multiple monologues and segments here on the show over
- 46:56Speaker 1: the years. Fauci definitely covered it up, and on top
- 46:58Speaker 1: of that, he gave a lot of incorrect information, which
- 47:01Speaker 1: in my opinion, the crime was is he never admitted it.
- 47:04Speaker 1: You know, whenever it came to mass whenever it came
- 47:06Speaker 1: to school closures and many of these other things, he
- 47:09Speaker 1: retrenched entirely and that he acted very nobly. And what's
- 47:12Speaker 1: also obvious from his diary entry is he reveled in
- 47:15Speaker 1: the media attention. He said crazy ass things like I
- 47:18Speaker 1: am the science. I mean, he was a total egomaniac.
- 47:23Speaker 1: And you know, you don't have to be a crazy
- 47:26Speaker 1: right winger to be like, yeah, this person really destroyed
- 47:29Speaker 1: a lot of public faith in the CDC and the
- 47:32Speaker 1: NIH and the entire scientific establishment from running a lot
- 47:35Speaker 1: of his responsor in COVID. There are many other criminals
- 47:38Speaker 1: that are involved, but you know, in my opinion, Fauci
- 47:39Speaker 1: is primarily one of them.
- 47:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that comment about I am
- 47:43Speaker 2: science or I am the science is very revealing because
- 47:45Speaker 2: what you see with I think the most charitable interpretation
- 47:50Speaker 2: you could give to Fauci is that he thought it
- 47:53Speaker 2: was probably zoonotic transmission. But rather than putting out to
- 47:58Speaker 2: the public like here are the competing theories, here's evidence
- 48:01Speaker 2: on the side, here's evidence on that side, and allowing
- 48:04Speaker 2: the public to live in some measure of uncertainty, he
- 48:07Speaker 2: wanted to have no, here's the definitive answer. I can
- 48:11Speaker 2: point to case closed. And maybe he just wanted that
- 48:15Speaker 2: because we see in other examples where he had a
- 48:18Speaker 2: similar approach of let me put something out there that
- 48:22Speaker 2: is not technically correct, but I think is a better
- 48:25Speaker 2: thing for the public that to manage their emotions. He
- 48:29Speaker 2: saw that more as his role than actually reading the
- 48:31Speaker 2: public in on the totality and the messiness and the reality.
- 48:34Speaker 2: You know, especially as the new virus pandemic, you're gathering signs,
- 48:39Speaker 2: you're figuring out what's going on. There's going to inherently
- 48:41Speaker 2: be messiness and uncertainty in that, and he didn't think
- 48:44Speaker 2: the public could handle that. But the other piece, obviously
- 48:47Speaker 2: with the lab leak in particular, is that there's also
- 48:50Speaker 2: a self interested motive of NIH's funding some of this
- 48:52Speaker 2: research to directly connected to this lab.
- 48:55Speaker 3: Some of the other.
- 48:56Speaker 2: Characters involved are directly implicated in terms of the research
- 48:59Speaker 2: that was being done, and so you also have this
- 49:02Speaker 2: self interested motive of like, I don't want the finger
- 49:04Speaker 2: pointed at us and what we're doing, and we want
- 49:06Speaker 2: to continue to do this gain of function research even
- 49:09Speaker 2: though it is profoundly dangerous. You know, when we talk
- 49:12Speaker 2: to Annie Jacobson, I asked her the question. You know,
- 49:15Speaker 2: biological weapons are illegal, right, They're completely banned, and yet
- 49:21Speaker 2: what we do in these labs is messing around with
- 49:24Speaker 2: things that could be bioweapons. How do they draw the
- 49:28Speaker 2: line between bioweapons development and quote unquote gain of function research.
- 49:33Speaker 2: And it's basically a gigantic loophole. So that's, you know,
- 49:36Speaker 2: that's the way people should think about this. And you know,
- 49:39Speaker 2: in terms of this proximal origin paper, which really becomes
- 49:44Speaker 2: this lynchpin in saying it was do not extreme switch,
- 49:48Speaker 2: it was not a lab leak, all of these scientists
- 49:50Speaker 2: degree very like definitive language that was used.
- 49:54Speaker 3: You can see behind the scenes.
- 49:56Speaker 2: The lead author, just before this was published, said that
- 49:59Speaker 2: a lab leak was quote friggin' likely, wrote that the
- 50:03Speaker 2: main issue is that accidental escape is in fact highly likely.
- 50:07Speaker 2: It's not some fringe issue. Another co author wrote that
- 50:11Speaker 2: the virus easily could have leaked from a lab. Now
- 50:15Speaker 2: they claim, oh, well that was a little earlier, and
- 50:17Speaker 2: then we looked into and we decided, no, it is
- 50:19Speaker 2: do not. It is you know, from an animal to
- 50:21Speaker 2: a human. And so that's why it was so definitive
- 50:23Speaker 2: in the paper. But it seems hard to believe that
- 50:26Speaker 2: since there was no new information that had really come
- 50:29Speaker 2: out to put your you know, some on the scales
- 50:32Speaker 2: in the direction of this is coming from an animal,
- 50:34Speaker 2: that they still harbored at least some doubts and yet
- 50:37Speaker 2: what was presented in this paper was very concrete, and
- 50:40Speaker 2: then what you know, what happens from there. It becomes
- 50:43Speaker 2: pushed out to a lot of scientific journalists. Just accept this, Okay, well,
- 50:47Speaker 2: we've settled this question.
- 50:49Speaker 3: It came from an animal.
- 50:50Speaker 2: We're moving forward, all of that research into the actual
- 50:53Speaker 2: oranges origin. Sudden gets pushed out to the fringes. And meanwhile,
- 50:56Speaker 2: as Sagar's pointing out, the discourse on this is just
- 50:59Speaker 2: so and so toxic at this point, it's almost hopelessly
- 51:03Speaker 2: damaged beyond repair, even though you know, it continues to
- 51:06Speaker 2: matter how this happened, and maybe we should change our
- 51:09Speaker 2: policies in our approach here so that it doesn't ultimately
- 51:11Speaker 2: happen again.
- 51:12Speaker 1: We let's talk about schoclosure. I mean, that was the
- 51:14Speaker 1: second two lab leak, the most consequential thing that will
- 51:16Speaker 1: affect this nation. Test scores have never recovered from the pandemic.
- 51:20Speaker 1: It still remains a literal lost generation. Not to mention
- 51:23Speaker 1: drug use, alcohol abuse, all kinds of things that happened
- 51:26Speaker 1: sociologically as a result of this. In his diary, Fauci
- 51:30Speaker 1: says that he convinced the New York City mayor to
- 51:33Speaker 1: close schools, and he influenced Cania school closures. In twenty
- 51:37Speaker 1: twenty two, in an ABC News interview, he said quote,
- 51:40Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with school closures. It's literally
- 51:42Speaker 1: a lie. It's a bald faced lie. He told multiple
- 51:46Speaker 1: times Francis Collins, for example, to please delete his emails
- 51:50Speaker 1: after you read it, which is directly in contravention of
- 51:52Speaker 1: his need to preserve records for Congress and for Foya,
- 51:56Speaker 1: by the way, and for future historians. He said, quote,
- 51:59Speaker 1: if anybody is lying, Senator, it is you. Whenever Paul
- 52:01Speaker 1: directly asked him about deleting information, he said he redefined
- 52:06Speaker 1: Remember when he redefined gain of function by saying that
- 52:09Speaker 1: we no longer did gain a function. It's a total lie.
- 52:12Speaker 1: And ultimately what this is is he became a genuine egomaniac.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Let's put B five up here on the screen. In
- 52:19Speaker 1: his diaries, quote the press is going wild with me.
- 52:24Speaker 1: He talks about how flattering it is. He talks about
- 52:27Speaker 1: how cool it was for him that when he shows
- 52:30Speaker 1: up to the White House, he no longer has to
- 52:32Speaker 1: give his ID because the Secret Service recognized who he was.
- 52:37Speaker 1: He revels in Oprah and all of these other celebrities
- 52:41Speaker 1: coming to his defense. You can go through and read
- 52:44Speaker 1: all of this for yourself. It's all public knowledge, like
- 52:47Speaker 1: this is who the guy became embodied in the I
- 52:51Speaker 1: am the science question And that's why. I mean it's
- 52:55Speaker 1: a tragedy like what has happened, as I said, like
- 52:57Speaker 1: we got entirely lucky and we blew our stack with
- 53:01Speaker 1: Lockdown's vaccine development, Trump and all of that. The loss
- 53:05Speaker 1: of public faith. Just imagine if we had a real
- 53:08Speaker 1: if we had another pandemic, if we had Spanish flu today,
- 53:11Speaker 1: what is going to happen with? What is going to
- 53:13Speaker 1: happen we have ARCA, we had fouch, Like are we
- 53:16Speaker 1: going to close schools or not? I mean that's going
- 53:18Speaker 1: to be a serious question. What are we going to do?
- 53:21Speaker 1: Is there a vaccine to do it or not? Who's
- 53:24Speaker 1: going to publish the information? We wear a mask? Should
- 53:26Speaker 1: we not wear a mask? I mean just imagine like
- 53:29Speaker 1: fifteen days to stop the spread. Anybody gonna believe that?
- 53:32Speaker 1: Like which scientists do we turn to? Do we turn
- 53:35Speaker 1: to Fauci and all the other officials over the CDC
- 53:38Speaker 1: who lied to us? Do we trust Rkade Junior and
- 53:40Speaker 1: doctor Marty Mackrey. This is a serious problem that we
- 53:44Speaker 1: all have, right And that's kind of my point and
- 53:47Speaker 1: just overarching to the Annie Jacobson point. Yeah, you know,
- 53:50Speaker 1: screw the Wall Street Journal. I don't know why, but
- 53:52Speaker 1: they did not credit her book. They ran an entire
- 53:55Speaker 1: piece about how with AI biological weapons are now much
- 54:00Speaker 1: easier to manufacture and that many AI models have no
- 54:03Speaker 1: guardrails in place to tell you how to in a
- 54:06Speaker 1: high school chemistry set be able to manufacture a highly
- 54:09Speaker 1: infectious either disease or gain a function like some type
- 54:12Speaker 1: of thing. They gave her zero credit, even though she
- 54:14Speaker 1: literally lays that out in her entire book. It can happen.
- 54:17Speaker 1: It can happen very very easily. And now what I
- 54:21Speaker 1: mean that with this public health infrastructure, in my opinion,
- 54:24Speaker 1: because of him, you know, we really are in a
- 54:27Speaker 1: very very bad place. And that's just my last thing
- 54:30Speaker 1: is with Fauci is he literally got a pardon, a
- 54:33Speaker 1: blanket pardon from Biden, which he had said publicly, I
- 54:37Speaker 1: will have no problem testifying before the US Senate, so
- 54:41Speaker 1: he has no potential criminal liability. He has a federal
- 54:44Speaker 1: blanket pardon from the United States President. He literally, you know,
- 54:48Speaker 1: got the he said previously I had nothing to hide,
- 54:52Speaker 1: and then ultimately, after his diary and all that is submitted,
- 54:56Speaker 1: he has to plead the fifth. So look, pleading the
- 54:58Speaker 1: fifth is not technically you know that you're hiding something,
- 55:00Speaker 1: But in my opinion, it does demonstrate like very clearly
- 55:04Speaker 1: that on his own merits, he cannot stand by much
- 55:07Speaker 1: of what he said in the middle of the pandemic.
- 55:09Speaker 1: That's not even just a Partison point. I just think
- 55:11Speaker 1: that's a fact at this point. All right, let's move on,
- 55:13Speaker 1: shall we turning down to some crazy rumblings going on
- 55:19Speaker 1: in the stock market, including South Korea, many chip manufacturers,
- 55:23Speaker 1: our own tech companies, and perhaps here the very first
- 55:26Speaker 1: glaring sign of margin gone wrong with AI stocks and
- 55:29Speaker 1: a potential bubble collapse. Let's put this up here on
- 55:32Speaker 1: the screen, Leopol. I'm not going to try and say
- 55:34Speaker 1: his last year. I think it's going to say Ashenberger's
- 55:36Speaker 1: his situational awareness. Hedge fund is now quote seeking to
- 55:40Speaker 1: raise capital after an AI route. The reason why this
- 55:44Speaker 1: is important is that this hedge fund, twenty billion dollar
- 55:47Speaker 1: hedge fund was founded by a former Open AI employee
- 55:51Speaker 1: who now needs quote fresh capital after heavy losses in
- 55:55Speaker 1: recent AI stock selloffs. The fund had previously posted a
- 55:59Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty nine percent net return for the
- 56:02Speaker 1: year through the end of June, which means now that
- 56:05Speaker 1: it is July thirtieth, he is now lost Nearly the
- 56:09Speaker 1: entirety of the fund was hurt by a July downturn
- 56:13Speaker 1: leverage or amplified by its use of leverage to manu
- 56:16Speaker 1: magnify returns. Its hardest hit large positions include Oracle and AMD,
- 56:22Speaker 1: which are each down twenty percent for the month, along
- 56:25Speaker 1: with the smaller bets like Nebuist, Sharon Ai, Bloom Energy,
- 56:29Speaker 1: and sand Disc. For context, the Nasdaq one hundred has
- 56:33Speaker 1: down ten percent in July, and South Korea's COSPI has
- 56:36Speaker 1: lost roughly a third of its valued. He says now
- 56:39Speaker 1: that the fund was not immune to the turbulence, but
- 56:41Speaker 1: framed the selloff as creating attractive buying opportunities, inviting investors
- 56:46Speaker 1: now to add cash so that he continue the strategy,
- 56:49Speaker 1: and he says the anthropic IPO is a potential catalyst
- 56:53Speaker 1: for his recovery. So why does that matter? This is
- 56:55Speaker 1: the first person to actually get wiped out, at least
- 56:58Speaker 1: so far. If nobody gives him any more money on
- 57:01Speaker 1: these leverage bets on AI. The initial downturn is indicative
- 57:05Speaker 1: of a dramatically changing geopolitical situation, not just to mention
- 57:09Speaker 1: a financial market situation. Let's start with South Korea. We'll
- 57:13Speaker 1: put C three up here on the screen. South Korea
- 57:15Speaker 1: has now had a stock market at a three month
- 57:18Speaker 1: low with a massive AI selloff. Samsung and Skhinex have
- 57:22Speaker 1: fell by more than ten percent quote renewed fears over
- 57:26Speaker 1: AI spending and Chinese competition. Investors were ditching their chip
- 57:31Speaker 1: stocks on Tuesday, rising concern about the huge amount of
- 57:34Speaker 1: borrowing from AI companies, and South Korean semiconductor companies specifically
- 57:39Speaker 1: fell by more than ten to ten percent, with their
- 57:42Speaker 1: entire index down by eleven point five percent back to
- 57:45Speaker 1: mid April. But the stock sell off itself is more
- 57:48Speaker 1: indicative of what is going on beneath the behind the scenes,
- 57:52Speaker 1: in terms of the rising problems with the amount of
- 57:54Speaker 1: debt that these AI companies have, the amount that they
- 57:56Speaker 1: have to invest in these chips, and China actually the
- 58:00Speaker 1: big one that a lot of the Western press just
- 58:02Speaker 1: doesn't want to deal with. And that's when I'll get
- 58:04Speaker 1: your take here. Chrystal ce four on the screen. Chinese
- 58:08Speaker 1: chip Champion CXMT whenever it debuted, came out with four
- 58:13Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six percent pop on the Chinese Stock
- 58:16Speaker 1: Exchange because of their ability basically to prove not only
- 58:20Speaker 1: with their AI with their AI fever gripping their own
- 58:23Speaker 1: stock market, but it was about domestic chip manufacture, which
- 58:27Speaker 1: has always been their biggest problem. America relies both on
- 58:31Speaker 1: Taiwan and these South Korean companies to boost our chip manufacturing,
- 58:35Speaker 1: basically the Western Alliance kind of, if you will. The
- 58:38Speaker 1: dream for the Chinese has been to disaggregate themselves from
- 58:41Speaker 1: Alliance on Nvidia chip design and Taiwan as well, and
- 58:44Speaker 1: this is one of the first times that they have
- 58:46Speaker 1: the ability to build out their own infrastructure. A lot
- 58:50Speaker 1: of this is very reductive and like it's very complicated,
- 58:53Speaker 1: et cetera. But the bottom line is, like the South
- 58:55Speaker 1: Korean and Asian markets, the Western markets do, Western Allied
- 58:58Speaker 1: markets not doing very well. American companies like Meta as
- 59:01Speaker 1: of this morning posting a ten percent loss, you have
- 59:04Speaker 1: significant losses by this hedge fund. Chinese chip manufacture going up,
- 59:08Speaker 1: and a lot of it portends very badly for any
- 59:12Speaker 1: potential bubble conversation.
- 59:13Speaker 2: The question is are these canaries in the coal mine?
- 59:15Speaker 2: And it looks very much like it, because the South
- 59:17Speaker 2: Korean stock market, which has collapsed and the taking down,
- 59:21Speaker 2: I mean to retail investors are just like utterly screwed
- 59:24Speaker 2: because of course they saw the stock market going crazy,
- 59:27Speaker 2: they got in on the action, many of them around
- 59:29Speaker 2: its peak that it's been nothing but destruction since then.
- 59:32Speaker 2: In any case, the South Korean stock market is heavily
- 59:36Speaker 2: dependent on these chip stocks. It's like half of the
- 59:40Speaker 2: stock market is represented in these ship stocks. So when
- 59:43Speaker 2: they take a tumble, the whole thing goes down and
- 59:46Speaker 2: it's a disaster. So is that a canary in the
- 59:48Speaker 2: coal mine? And then this guy with his hedge fund,
- 59:51Speaker 2: his whole thing was, I am betting on the AI revolution.
- 59:54Speaker 2: I'm betting on the need for all of this compute,
- 59:57Speaker 2: all of these chips. I'm betting against software companies because
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: I think AI is going to come in and displace them.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: So now with him basically saying, Okay, those bets didn't
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: work out, I may have to unwind this whole thing.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Well, what do you think our entire economy.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: Is a bet on at this point, it's a very
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: similar bet that our whole economy is making on the
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: AI revolution. So that's why these things are incredibly important
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: to take a look at. And now in South Korea
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: with their stock market was you've also because you had
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: so many retail investors get in and so many of
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: them buy them using debt basically on margin. Now as
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: those stock prices go down and they're experiencing those margin calls,
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: then they have to sell more and more and more,
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: and that creates a self fulfilling prophecy. But to Soccer's point,
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: a lot of this does come back to China. They
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: have made this extraordinary push partly because of our own
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: chips export controls that force them into the direction of okay,
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: we're going to have to be self reliant. Now, they
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: haven't caught up, but they're getting a lot closer, and
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: I think no one would bet against them. I mean,
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: just look surely at the human capital the number of
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: engineers that they graduate versus US, like, it's not even comparable.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: And they have a nationwide strategic emphasis as part of
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: their five year plan on this sector. They are going
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: to continue to develop, They are going to continue to
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: get better and then when you look at the way
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: that their AI models have basically nearly or you know,
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: have matched the frontier models here, they do it requiring
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: a lot less compute. It's much more efficient kind of
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: destroying and undermining the entire business model that Open Ai,
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Anthropic and our other you know, big AI development companies
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: here have pursued. Yeah, this is the ground shifting. These
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: are the canaries in the coal mine. This is the
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: quicksand that this whole thing could could sink into.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: Ultimately, let's put C five up here on the screen
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: to bolster that point. This is about chip lithography. So
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: again I'm not an expert. I'm doing my best. This
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: is all very complicated. This was one of the major
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: bottlenecks for China. So what they write is that China
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: has now potentially made a significant breakthrough in chip making equipment.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: The information a state back firm in Shanghai has now
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: figured out how to build immersion deep ultraviolet known as
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: DUV lithography tools, which is capable of manufacturing the most
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: widely used chips. This is technology which has long been
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: dominated by the Netherlands ASML, which means that China is
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: now progressing faster than outsider is expected in a push
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: for semiconductor self efficiency. If you compare this DUV chip
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: making advance with China to the CXMT stock that I
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: talked about very previously, you pair those two things together,
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: what you see is that you basically have a situation
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: where you have chip manufacture which is now becoming one
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: of the bull areas of Chinese investment. And it also
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: means that what they're creating is the ability to compete
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: both with the United States with South Korea, all at
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: a time of a men's speculation from the United States
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: and or a mense speculation in the United States and
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: a potential bubble burst which could rip a lot of
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: the capital out of this. That is the big picture
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: problem as to why I think all of this matters.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: And generally, I mean you can see here. Let's put
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: see one for example up on the screen. I mean
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: sand Disk got absolutely wiped out in terms of a
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: thirty percent loss over the week. I think it's down, yeah,
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: fifty four percent in July, the S and P five
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: hundred's biggest loser. They continue to look at a lot
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: of these different stocks, and you know, just to be fair,
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: let's see stocks are a little bit up this morning,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: so it's not really about you know, our own s
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: and P. Five hundred. We're looking specifically at the technology
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: sector and these chip manufacturers. But you had Meta that
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: also posted a significant loss. Let's put CE seven please
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: up on the screen. The stuff really matters. Their stock,
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: I think is down by about ten percent as of
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: this morning. All of this because of weaker than expected
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: revenue forecast, and it took a big hit to its
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: cash pile. So basically what they said, analysts were expecting
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: a guidance of sixty three billion dollars in revenue. The
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: company had said that assumes foreign currency, et cetera. But
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: the biggest capital expenditure is that their guidance for the
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: year to between one hundred and thirty one hundred and
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five billion from a prior range
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: forty five billion. Basically, what they're saying is that they
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: are going to spend billions more dollars on capital expenditure
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: than they previously had admitted, and that their free cash
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: flow is now down actually this quarter from what they
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: previously had expected for a lot of these analysts, aka
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: CHIP or data center construction and AI investment is going
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: up and up and up, and we don't see that
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: reflected in the revenue. They have a long term bet,
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: which we're going to talk in a little bit, that
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: you know, the open models, et cetera, and all that
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: will come, but we're still talking about hundreds of billions
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: a year, trillions, you know, totally if you look at
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: all of it, and if it doesn't work out, all
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: of it goes bust completely.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: And not just if it doesn't work out, because sometimes
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: two things are conflated. Will the technology be transformational, that's
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: one question. A totally separate question is what happens with
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: the revenue and the economics and whether the stock market
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: crashes those two things. That you could have a scenario
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: where you know, the models work out, it's transformational and
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: the stock market does really well and all these companies
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: you know, become larger than anything that's ever existed on
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: the planet. You could have where you know, it kind
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: of sucks, but they continue to pub the stock market.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: You could have where both things fail, and you could
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: have a situation where it's transformational but they bet on
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: the wrong model. And that's the thing that increasingly looks
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: likely to me, as you know, someone who's looking at
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: this from the outside, trying to read and understand as
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: much as I can, that our companies bet on this
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: model of We're just going to churn and burn, hyper scale,
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: build down all of these data centers, throw as much
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: compute as possible, bring in, suck in all of this
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: investor cash endlessly, and hope that the productivity gains translation
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: replacing of human beings at their work, that that is
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: valuable enough, that is all ends up being justified. But
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: when China comes in with cheaper, more efficient models and
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: open source, meaning that a company can just you know,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: download that and run it themselves. They don't have to
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: give their data to anyone else.
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: It's cheaper.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do that? That undercuts their entire business model. So,
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: even if the tech ends up being transformational, does it
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: work out from their business model perspective? And that is
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: what I mean. You look at the data center construction
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: across the country. So many of the jobs that are
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: that are being created right now or like electricians and
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: in construction for specifically these data centers. If that goes
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: down it's I mean, it is really dire. We actually
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: just had a GDP cut number come in that was
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: weaker than expected. It was like one percent growth, you know,
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: and some of that is because of government spending going
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: down due to a variety of reasons, et cetera. But
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: a lot of the economy is built on this AI buildout.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: That's where all of the money is going. And so
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: when you see these canaries in the coal mine of
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: this guy that bet everything on exactly that direction, on
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: the South Korean stock market, which is all bet on
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: the chips and the continued to increased demand for chips,
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: you have to pay attention to that.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So we'll continue to monitor how it's all going.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: But and look, you know, to again be fair, many
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: tech companies their stock is up as well. So it's
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: not like this is exactly an entire industry wide phenomenon.
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: But generally, like with South Korea, this is their worst
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: crash since ninety seven. It's worse than ninety seven, it's
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: worse than O eight, Like, this is one of the
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: greatest stock market calamities in their history. I don't think
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: that we can ignore that, especially on a country who's
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: whole at least market was bet on these chip stocks.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: We are not as exposed, but we are exposed broadly
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: to all of the AI sector for all of our growth.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Oh and not to mention gases four dollars a gallon,
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: So grocery prices are up like fifty two percent. Consumer
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: spending is very high for the top ten percent, but
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: for most people it continues to crunch. So in terms
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: of our real production, it's not looking that great.