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Episode 213. The Bean Files: Demons, UFOs, Alien Encounters & the Unexplained | Reverend Bill Bean · Wake Up with Miya

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Speaker 1: For those of you out there who might think I'm
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Speaker 1: a crazy man, well, you could think that all you want,
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't change the fact of the matter. And
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Speaker 1: that is the fact.
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Speaker 2: Of the matter.
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Speaker 1: There are demonic spirits attached to alcohol and drugs as well.
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Speaker 1: So if a person is a drug user, addicted to
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Speaker 1: drugs or whatever, they're under the spirits of Barmakia sorcery.
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Speaker 1: And so this is very real. Most people don't understand
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Speaker 1: this or realize it. And that's what the devil wants.
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Speaker 1: He wants to keep people ignorant and uninformed to these things. Therefore,
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Speaker 1: they have no clue what's going on. And they'll continue
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Speaker 1: to do these things and think it's okay to do it.
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Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, there could be a path of tragedy
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Speaker 1: and destruction as a result of those types of things. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Isn't alcohol called spirits as well?
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Speaker 1: Yes. So when you go to see the liquor store
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Speaker 1: thing there, it'll say beer, wine, and spirits. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Reverend Bean, welcome back to the show. It's been a
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Speaker 2: while since we had the chance to sit down and talk,
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Speaker 2: so I'm really happy to have you back. But for
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Speaker 2: those who may be discovering you for the first time,
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Speaker 2: before we get into the Bean Files, some of your
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Speaker 2: incredible experiences that you want to share in your book,
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Speaker 2: Please tell everyone a little bit about who you are,
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Speaker 2: what kind of spiritual work and spiritual warrior you do,
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Speaker 2: and what you've been up to since the last time
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Speaker 2: we've been on the show together.
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for having me back, Mia.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. When you brought that to my
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Speaker 1: attention about it's been two years, time is just... Either
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Speaker 1: God himself, Yahweh, has put his finger on the dial
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Speaker 1: of time, speed things up, or... The devil and mankind
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Speaker 1: are the culprits in this, but somebody is, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: responsible for the speeding up of time. And it's just,
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Speaker 1: I mean, days just go by like a blink and
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Speaker 1: we see years go by like a blink too. So
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Speaker 1: it's great to be back with you. A lot has
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Speaker 1: been going on since the last time I was on
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Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. I'm, of course, still busy helping people
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Speaker 1: from all over the world. God works through me to
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Speaker 1: help these people, and I thank him and praise him
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Speaker 1: for it. But my story begins all the way back,
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Speaker 1: really sort of being born into the world in trauma,
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Speaker 1: kind of from the very beginning. So I've written 13 books,
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Speaker 1: and in the first book, which is called Dark Force,
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Speaker 1: I describe the events that my family and I had
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Speaker 1: these horrific interactions and physical attacks from demonic entities. It
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Speaker 1: began in the book I write that it began in
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Speaker 1: 1970 when my family and I moved into a three-bedroom
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Speaker 1: ranch-style home located in Glen Burnie, Maryland, in a community
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Speaker 1: called Herondale. But I found out after I'd written that
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Speaker 1: first book that it actually goes much further back. And
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Speaker 1: I found out from a reliable family source that that
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Speaker 1: two relatives that I never met, they came and went
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Speaker 1: before my time, but well over 100 years ago, actually
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Speaker 1: participated in a ritual of invitation, invocation, summoning of these
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Speaker 1: demonic entities. And if somebody's doing that, believe me, the
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Speaker 1: door's going to open and the devil will send those
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Speaker 1: demons in. They'll kick that door and they'll be in.
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Speaker 1: until someone like me comes along by the power of
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Speaker 1: God working through me to evict them. So that's what happened.
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Speaker 1: And so the story goes much further back. I found
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Speaker 1: out that my parents each had supernatural experiences in their childhoods.
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Speaker 1: And my mother actually lived in that very area with
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Speaker 1: her family as a teenager. So she had exposure, prior
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Speaker 1: exposure to that area. And let me tell you, I
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Speaker 1: can recall being four years old when we moved in
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Speaker 1: there My sister was 13. We were standing together looking
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Speaker 1: at the house in front of the house. And the
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Speaker 1: house was located at the bottom of a downhill cul-de-sac
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Speaker 1: with a very long and deep ravine behind it that
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Speaker 1: stretched for several miles. And many, many stories about a
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Speaker 1: lot of different supernatural things that took place in that ravine.
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Speaker 1: But the house had a very ominous look and feel
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Speaker 1: about it from the very beginning. And my sister and
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Speaker 1: I were frightened. It was semi-dilapidated. My father, William Bean Sr.,
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Speaker 1: was a master carpenter. He saw it as a restoration project,
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Speaker 1: which he did quite a bit of work to in
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Speaker 1: restoring it. He would go in through the front door,
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Speaker 1: and it was very dark in there. It was the paneling.
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Speaker 1: It was this dark brown paneling, almost black. And even
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Speaker 1: on the brightest of days, it was dark in that house.
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Speaker 1: And the vibe, you know, you could feel it. There is,
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Speaker 1: especially if we have holy discernment, we can sometimes see
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Speaker 1: these things and feel them as well. And if you
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Speaker 1: are in the presence of God's angels and the divine,
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Speaker 1: you're going to feel loved. You're going to feel comfort.
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Speaker 1: You're going to feel protection. The angel might speak to
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Speaker 1: you and say, don't fear. I'm not here to hurt you.
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Speaker 1: But it's the reverse when you're in the presence of evil.
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Speaker 1: It's very heavy, very foreboding. There could be a ringing
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Speaker 1: in your ears. You could smell horrible smells. It is
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Speaker 1: a complete inversion of what is good and what is right.
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Speaker 1: So unfortunately, In that environment, in that home, it felt
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Speaker 1: that way most of the time. So you would walk
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Speaker 1: in through the front door, into the living room. You
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Speaker 1: would make a right. So you go about halfway between
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Speaker 1: the living room and dining room. You can make a
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Speaker 1: right and go down a long hallway with hard tile floor.
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Speaker 1: And oftentimes we'd hear what sounded like someone walking down
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Speaker 1: that hallway on the hard tile floor. It would reverberate
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Speaker 1: off the walls and off the paneling. sounded like they
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Speaker 1: had boots on or something. And my brother and I
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Speaker 1: shared the first room on the right. His bed was
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Speaker 1: closest to the window. Mine was closest to the hallway.
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Speaker 1: My parents' room was the second room, the next room
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Speaker 1: down on the right. And then my sister's room was
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Speaker 1: across the hallway. And I believe that was a main
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Speaker 1: portal in the house. And I believe that portal was
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Speaker 1: located in her closet, which was adjacent to the living
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Speaker 1: closet at the end of the hallway. And my sister
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Speaker 1: and That's the room where the door would open and
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Speaker 1: slam for many repetitions at a time. The room was
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Speaker 1: always cold on the hottest of summer days. That room
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Speaker 1: was always cold. And my sister didn't live there for
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Speaker 1: very long either. But my mom was the first to
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Speaker 1: have an experience right after moving in. She was in
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Speaker 1: the living room unpacking and organizing. My dad had taken
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Speaker 1: us with him for the day to leave her alone
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Speaker 1: and let her, you know, be able to have peace
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Speaker 1: with us not being there and bothering her as she
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Speaker 1: unpacked and organized the house. And it was during the
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Speaker 1: course of that that she felt the presence come into
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Speaker 1: the room. She thought that it was my dad sneaking
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Speaker 1: back in to play a joke on her. And she
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Speaker 1: spun around, fully anticipating on seeing him and her shock.
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Speaker 1: You know, no one or nothing was there. So as
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Speaker 1: you can imagine, she was unnerved by it, perplexed. Eventually
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Speaker 1: able to go back to doing what she was doing.
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Speaker 1: And then my sister's bedroom door slammed shut by itself.
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Speaker 1: And that was enough to make her go outside and
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Speaker 1: wait until we returned. So that's where it began. And
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Speaker 1: this activity gradually escalated into violent physical demonic attacks on me,
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Speaker 1: my mother and other family members as well. And it
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Speaker 1: greatly contributed to the destruction of my family. Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 2: I'm really sorry about that. Now, one of the things
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Speaker 2: that really stands out in your book is the connection
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Speaker 2: between angels, demons, UFO, aliens, Bigfoot, and other unexplained phenomenon.
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Speaker 2: What do you believe connects all of these things?
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Speaker 1: I think that it's all part of our circle of life.
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Speaker 1: And I think there's so much around us that, you know,
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Speaker 1: if it's true that mankind can only use a small
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Speaker 1: percentage of of our brain-powered capacity, well, then if the
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Speaker 1: number is 10%, well, then that means that there's 90%
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Speaker 1: of something going on around us that we cannot perceive.
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Speaker 1: And so there's a whole other world going on, and
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Speaker 1: maybe once in a while, for certain people that are
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Speaker 1: selected by God for certain reasons, that world bleeds into
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Speaker 1: our world, and we can sort of have these types
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Speaker 1: of experiences, that's my best guesstimate on the whole thing, Mia.
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Speaker 1: And I mentioned also, and I didn't follow up on
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Speaker 1: the thought, that when I came into this world, I
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Speaker 1: was born into trauma. And the reason I say that
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Speaker 1: is that shortly after my birth, the story goes, and
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Speaker 1: I don't believe the story, but I was told this,
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Speaker 1: that when I was born, a hair from a nurse
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Speaker 1: had somehow wrapped around one of my toes and it
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Speaker 1: actually severed the toe and they had to reattach the
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Speaker 1: toe and I have a scar to this day I'm
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Speaker 1: 60 years old and I still have a scar that
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Speaker 1: wraps all the way around that toe So I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure what happened, but I just find it hard to
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Speaker 1: believe that a hair wrapped around the toe so tight
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Speaker 1: or whatever that it actually cut in and severed that toe.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 2: And that, that story was told by your parents? Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and other family members, and I just, and look,
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Speaker 1: my parents are gone. I love them, but I just
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Speaker 1: find that hard to believe.
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Speaker 2: Something happened, though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard of any story like that ever,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I still carry a scarf to this day
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Speaker 1: that wraps all the way around that toe, so they
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Speaker 1: said the toe was severed. It was reattached, and prior
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Speaker 1: to that, Let me back up a little bit. My
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Speaker 1: sister was born in 1957. So my parents were married
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Speaker 1: at 56. My sister was born in 1957. There was
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Speaker 1: another child born in 1963. It was a male child.
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Speaker 1: And this is another thing that I could never get
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Speaker 1: because different family members had different accounts. Supposedly, it was
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Speaker 1: a male child. He didn't live for very long. Died
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Speaker 1: under mysterious circumstances. and representatives from Johns Hopkins Hospital came
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Speaker 1: to retrieve the body for studies. Okay, so what does
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Speaker 1: that mean? I have no idea, but it doesn't sound good.
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Speaker 1: And so again, it was varying accounts of his birth
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Speaker 1: and death. Could never nail it down. I contacted Johns
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Speaker 1: Hopkins Hospital back in the late 1990s. They told me
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Speaker 1: that they didn't have the records anymore. It should have
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Speaker 1: been There should have been a case file from 1963
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Speaker 1: on this. And they told me that they got rid
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Speaker 1: of all records before 1970. And again, I find that
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Speaker 1: very hard to believe. And so I never could get
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Speaker 1: to the bottom of what happened to that baby. All
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Speaker 1: I know is that he was born, he was a male,
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Speaker 1: and then he died shortly after. And then representatives from
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Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins came and retrieved the body. So what does
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Speaker 1: that mean? I have no idea, but I find it
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Speaker 1: interesting because then I'm born in 1966 and then I
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Speaker 1: have a toe severed as, you know, I'm coming into
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Speaker 1: the world not long after. And so I really believe
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Speaker 1: when I look back on this, perhaps God chooses certain
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Speaker 1: people for certain things. And maybe he chose me before
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Speaker 1: I came into this world to be this spiritual warrior,
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Speaker 1: to be somebody that he would work through to help people.
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Speaker 1: And maybe the devil was trying to kill me before
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Speaker 1: I could get into that position where God wanted me
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Speaker 1: and needed me to be. That's the best explanation I
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Speaker 1: can give you as to why it all started like that.
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Speaker 1: And then there was a pattern after that of abuse.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I was physically attacked by demonic entities between
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Speaker 1: ages five and 12 on a regular basis. The level
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Speaker 1: of trauma that I have suffered you know, throughout childhood
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Speaker 1: was off the charts. So my escape from it all
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Speaker 1: was becoming an athlete. I loved sports. I was the
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Speaker 1: first guy on the field and the last guy to
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Speaker 1: leave because I didn't want to go home. And so
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Speaker 1: that was my only escape from the horrors that were
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Speaker 1: taking place, you know, throughout my childhood.
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Speaker 2: And you described being only five years old when these
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Speaker 2: attacks began. And during one of these experiences, you were
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Speaker 2: pinned to your bed, unable to move or scream. And
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Speaker 2: then you saw what you described as an angel appear.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And that experience happened many times
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Speaker 1: over the years. And it was horrific. And I've given
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Speaker 1: over 2,500 media interviews in my career. And each and
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Speaker 1: every time I talk about this, I can't properly put
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Speaker 1: it into words because The level of trauma that I
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Speaker 1: was experiencing at that time, the level of fear, I
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Speaker 1: thought I was dying. My heart was beating so fast,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to just jump out of
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Speaker 1: my body. It was horrible. And I felt paralyzed except
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Speaker 1: for my eyes. And before I felt totally paralyzed, I
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Speaker 1: tried to scream out for my parents and my mouth
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even work. And so the only thing that seemed
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Speaker 1: to be working were my eyes. And I saw, as
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Speaker 1: all these things were unfolding, I saw this lady. She
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Speaker 1: appeared at the foot of my bed. She was in
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Speaker 1: a pale white or whitish bluish type of gown. And
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Speaker 1: I certainly felt love and comfort. And with the appearance
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Speaker 1: of what I believed this entity and being to be
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Speaker 1: was an angel, I started to calm down because I
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Speaker 1: started to feel protection. peace and comfort and all the
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Speaker 1: horrible things that were happening suddenly stopped. And she just
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Speaker 1: continued to stand there at the foot of my bed, gazing,
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Speaker 1: smiling at me. The more I looked at her, the
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Speaker 1: more comfort I felt, the safer I felt. And that
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Speaker 1: she just turned to her left and floated up through
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Speaker 1: the ceiling. And the most amazing part about that, Mia,
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Speaker 1: is that angelic being maybe took the former shape of
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Speaker 1: my mother. She looked just like her. And it was
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Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. It happened many times throughout my lifetime, childhood
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Speaker 1: in that house. And my mother was also rescued by
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Speaker 1: her when she was being attacked by a demonic entity.
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Speaker 1: And this angelic being who looked like, can you imagine
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Speaker 1: something that manifests, looks just like you, and then rescues
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Speaker 1: you from you know, a demonic attack and grabs the
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Speaker 1: demon and takes it away. Well, that's what happened with
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Speaker 1: my mother and other family members saw this divine manifestation
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Speaker 1: as well. So, you know, all the evil that was
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Speaker 1: taking place there, God did have this angel among all
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Speaker 1: the evil. And again, looking back on that, I think, okay,
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Speaker 1: what did this happen? And the best way that I
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Speaker 1: can come to a conclusion or summarize it would be
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Speaker 1: that Perhaps it was necessary for me to have had
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Speaker 1: those experiences in order to be where I'm at right
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Speaker 1: now and helping others because I could be the most
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Speaker 1: brilliant man in the world and if I never had
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Speaker 1: the experience, then I can't come together with the person
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Speaker 1: that I'm trying to help. But they know I've had
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Speaker 1: the experiences, therefore we can instantly bond because they can
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Speaker 1: trust me. And as you know, people that suffer trauma
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Speaker 1: They don't trust people and they don't want to talk
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Speaker 1: about it either. It's very, very difficult. It took me
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Speaker 1: years to be able to have that transformation from victim
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Speaker 1: to victor. And as part of that transformation, I was
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Speaker 1: able to start to talk about these things and to
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Speaker 1: get them out there. But I tried to sweep it
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Speaker 1: under the rug for a long time and that doesn't
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Speaker 1: work because unfortunately, when a person is under this type
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Speaker 1: of oppression... demonic forces are there. They will remain there
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Speaker 1: until they are evicted. So there's no sweeping this under
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Speaker 1: the rug. And for anybody out there that might be
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Speaker 1: watching this right now, please get help, whether it's me
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Speaker 1: or somebody else. If you've had this type of experience,
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Speaker 1: it's certainly to the level of having it over and
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Speaker 1: over and over again. You know, that's a pattern that develops,
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Speaker 1: and that's right out of the playbook of the devil,
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Speaker 1: that he wants to keep people under control by lowering
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Speaker 1: their frequencies and vibration. And the way to do that
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Speaker 1: is through trauma and fear. So that's why when a
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Speaker 1: person starts to have these types of negative demonic experiences,
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Speaker 1: you know, they might see an apparition, they might hear
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Speaker 1: a voice, something might touch them or scratch them, or
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Speaker 1: they see something move, whatever it may be. Now that
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Speaker 1: puts them into a state of fear. And all life
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Speaker 1: operates on frequency and vibration. We're all electrical animated beings.
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Speaker 1: We all have force fields. And the devil is a
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Speaker 1: master of manipulating the force fields. He knows the buttons
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Speaker 1: to press. And so if we are in a real
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Speaker 1: authentic relationship with God, life's not perfect. We'll never achieve
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Speaker 1: perfection on this earth in this life. We'll achieve perfection
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Speaker 1: when we get into his heavenly kingdom. But here we
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Speaker 1: must fight the good fight every day. And if we
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Speaker 1: are real with God, he'll be real with us. And
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Speaker 1: we always want to be under the blessings of Deuteronomy
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Speaker 1: 28 and the protection of Psalm 91. But the devil, again,
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Speaker 1: is very clever in creating situations and scenarios to attack
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Speaker 1: the target and lower the frequencies and vibrations in that
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Speaker 1: person or person's Once that happens, the person or persons
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Speaker 1: are wide open and vulnerable for demonic attack. And that's
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Speaker 1: how these things can take place. And it can escalate
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Speaker 1: from demonic oppression into a full possession because the game
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Speaker 1: of wear down. And once the target is worn down
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Speaker 1: to the point to where they give up the will
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Speaker 1: to fight or live, then a full demonic possession can
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Speaker 1: take place. Wow.
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Speaker 2: And you later described you actually confronted the entities at
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Speaker 2: your home. And you saw, was it four of them
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Speaker 2: materialized right in front of you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, me and five adults who were standing behind me.
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Speaker 1: And so all of these years of this demonic oppression
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Speaker 1: and attack, I equated it to being prisoners in a
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Speaker 1: POW camp. You know, you just get so worn down.
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Speaker 1: You come to expect it. And you say, well, this
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Speaker 1: is my life. This is what it's reduced to now.
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Speaker 1: And it is what it is. And so we lived
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Speaker 1: that way. And, you know, it really didn't strike me.
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Speaker 1: The gravity of it really didn't hit me until I
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Speaker 1: had delved into writing that first book, which was very difficult,
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Speaker 1: by the way, because I had a lack of education,
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Speaker 1: which prohibited me from being able to express myself correctly
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Speaker 1: and to have things in a proper format that an
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Speaker 1: author would. how they would lay the book out and
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Speaker 1: how they would speak and the spelling and the punctuation,
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Speaker 1: the diction, all these things. But anyway, it was very,
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Speaker 1: very difficult. And so I had to immerse myself back
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Speaker 1: into all that and relive those experiences. And that was
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Speaker 1: very traumatic for me again and very painful. And that's
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Speaker 1: when it hit me. I thought, dear God, how did
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Speaker 1: we How did we endure that for almost 10 years
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Speaker 1: of all that type of abuse? And even after moving out,
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Speaker 1: which we were finally forced out in December of 1980,
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Speaker 1: my poor mother who suffered, I've been involved in thousands
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Speaker 1: of cases all over the world. And I have yet
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Speaker 1: to see a case that was as severe as my
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Speaker 1: own mother, I'm sorry to say. And her level of
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Speaker 1: suffering was far greater than mine. And even after moving
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Speaker 1: out of the house, She was still under demonic physical attack,
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Speaker 1: which contributed to her early demise. Neither of my parents
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Speaker 1: lived to see the age of 50. My mother died
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Speaker 1: of a cerebral hemorrhage at age 44. And that was
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Speaker 1: two months and three days later after her mother, my
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Speaker 1: beloved grandmother, Dora Harvey, had died from a sudden series
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Speaker 1: of heart attacks. So the two closest people to me
21:57
Speaker 1: in my life were suddenly gone. And that was just
22:00
Speaker 1: disastrous for me. And my dad, we beat senior. He
22:05
Speaker 1: was shot to death at age 48 in 1987. So
22:09
Speaker 1: neither of my parents lived to see the age of 50.
22:11
Speaker 1: Most of my family's gone. And a lot of them
22:14
Speaker 1: died under mysterious and tragic circumstances. And so having had
22:21
Speaker 1: all those experiences for all those years, my dad, who
22:24
Speaker 1: was a very good man, but made some horrible choices.
22:31
Speaker 1: He was. a very tough, rugged individual. He was a
22:39
Speaker 1: man's man, used to being in charge of every situation
22:42
Speaker 1: and scenario. And when all this started, he suddenly found
22:46
Speaker 1: himself in a situation that he could not control. My
22:49
Speaker 1: parents believed in God, but we were not religious. We
22:52
Speaker 1: didn't attend church or anything like that, so we didn't
22:55
Speaker 1: have any faith-based background. You didn't have, and my father
23:01
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone to him anyway. You know, back in
23:03
Speaker 1: that time frame, you didn't have anybody, you know, going around.
23:08
Speaker 1: The Warrens, to my knowledge, were the first people that
23:10
Speaker 1: started into these types of investigations. And it was later
23:13
Speaker 1: in the 70s. So my father wouldn't have called them
23:16
Speaker 1: anyway or anybody else. But I think he was the
23:20
Speaker 1: first one to really come under an attack. And I
23:24
Speaker 1: think that the reason for that was to get the
23:27
Speaker 1: strong one out. You know, if you get him out,
23:29
Speaker 1: it's going to be much easier to manipulate and control
23:32
Speaker 1: the rest of the family. And unfortunately for my dad,
23:37
Speaker 1: he made the terrible decision of trying to escape reality
23:42
Speaker 1: through alcoholism. So my parents were social drinkers. And back
23:46
Speaker 1: then you would have house parties with family members and
23:49
Speaker 1: a house full of smoke and drinking everywhere and all
23:52
Speaker 1: that stuff. But then it escalated. As this supernatural activity increased,
24:00
Speaker 1: well then, with my father coming under attack, it confounded
24:05
Speaker 1: him so bad, I think he was trying to escape
24:07
Speaker 1: reality through the bottle. And he became a raging alcoholic
24:12
Speaker 1: who began to regularly physically abuse my mother between the
24:16
Speaker 1: years of 1973 and 1975. Nearly killed her on several occasions.
24:21
Speaker 1: I can recall being eight years old having to run
24:24
Speaker 1: out of the house to get the police call to
24:25
Speaker 1: my father because he was killing my mother. These are
24:28
Speaker 1: horrific memories for me. I saw a loud bloodshed in
24:32
Speaker 1: that house over the years, believe me. And it was
24:35
Speaker 1: all part of it. So when a person decides by
24:41
Speaker 1: our own free will, he made the choice. So the
24:43
Speaker 1: devil doesn't force anything on anybody. But if we make choices,
24:49
Speaker 1: bad choices that certain doorways can open, And then he
24:52
Speaker 1: will eat in a bed and send those demons in
24:55
Speaker 1: to finish off the target. And that's exactly what took
24:59
Speaker 1: place with my father. He made the conscious decision to
25:02
Speaker 1: escalate his drinking. And I have no doubt, being a
25:08
Speaker 1: firsthand witness to what took place, that while under the
25:14
Speaker 1: influence of alcohol, he was under the influence of those
25:20
Speaker 1: demonic spirits that And that actually fueled his rage against
25:25
Speaker 1: my mother. And he was under complete control from those
25:30
Speaker 1: demonic entities. And it is a miracle that he didn't
25:32
Speaker 1: kill her. So I've seen this with my own father.
25:35
Speaker 1: I've seen it with other family members and other people
25:37
Speaker 1: as well. Clients throughout the years. And people don't realize. Look,
25:46
Speaker 1: if you want to have a drink, please. One or
25:49
Speaker 1: two drinks if you want to go to dinner or
25:51
Speaker 1: have a drink, whatever. There's nothing wrong with that. But
25:54
Speaker 1: what does go wrong is that when the person has
26:01
Speaker 1: now 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, now
26:05
Speaker 1: you've crossed the line and you are intoxicated. So you're
26:09
Speaker 1: poisoned in mind, body, and spirit. And that activates and
26:13
Speaker 1: gives legal rights to the demons of Al-Qul and Al-Gol,
26:17
Speaker 1: which means flesh-eating demons. For those of you out there
26:22
Speaker 1: who might think I'm a crazy man, well, you could
26:24
Speaker 1: think that all you want, but that doesn't change the
26:26
Speaker 1: fact of the matter. And that is the fact of
26:28
Speaker 1: the matter. There are demonic spirits attached to alcohol and
26:33
Speaker 1: drugs as well. So if a person is a drug user,
26:37
Speaker 1: addicted to drugs, they're under the spirits of pharmakia, sorcery.
26:41
Speaker 1: And so this is very real. Most people don't understand
26:46
Speaker 1: this or realize it, and that's what the devil wants.
26:48
Speaker 1: He wants to keep people ignorant and uninformed to these things. Therefore,
26:55
Speaker 1: they have no clue what's going on, and they'll continue
26:57
Speaker 1: to do these things and think it's okay to do it.
27:00
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, there could be a path of tragedy
27:04
Speaker 1: and destruction as a result of those types of things.
27:09
Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't alcohol called spirits as well?
27:12
Speaker 1: Yes. So when you go to the, you see the
27:15
Speaker 1: liquor store thing there, it'll say beer, wine, and spirits. Exactly.
27:20
Speaker 1: People don't get it, Mia. They don't. And a lot
27:22
Speaker 1: of times they don't want to get it. So this,
27:25
Speaker 1: there are people that the more you try to give truth,
27:29
Speaker 1: the more they'll hate you for it because they want
27:32
Speaker 1: their version of it. They want to do what they
27:35
Speaker 1: want to do. And if you try to give them truth,
27:37
Speaker 1: then you're interrupting their good time and they'll get angry
27:41
Speaker 1: with you for it.
27:43
Speaker 2: So, exactly. And these spirits, you call them alcohol. What
27:47
Speaker 2: did you say?
27:49
Speaker 1: Alcohol.
27:50
Speaker 2: Alcohol.
27:50
Speaker 1: Like alcohol. Yeah. A-L-K-U-H-L and Al-Gawl, which is A-L-G-A-W-L. Those
28:02
Speaker 1: are Arabic words. And you can punch it up and
28:05
Speaker 1: it means flesh eating demons, flesh eating my experience. It's
28:10
Speaker 1: all there. The information's there. That's why I say every
28:13
Speaker 1: week on my broadcast, my little warrior mode broadcast, I
28:16
Speaker 1: say knowledge is power and power perceived is power achieved.
28:20
Speaker 1: It's very true. And so the more knowledge that you acquire,
28:23
Speaker 1: the more empowered you will become. And see, that's what
28:26
Speaker 1: happened to me back in my life when I, After
28:31
Speaker 1: those tragedies took place, after the deaths of my mother, grandmother,
28:37
Speaker 1: I quit school. I had to quit school. Really, I
28:40
Speaker 1: tell people I have an eighth grade education, but I
28:42
Speaker 1: really have a seventh grade education because I quit school
28:45
Speaker 1: in the eighth grade. I didn't complete the eighth grade.
28:48
Speaker 1: So I quit school in the eighth grade. I lied
28:50
Speaker 1: about my age. I went to work for a construction company.
28:54
Speaker 1: And there were some hardcore guys on those construction sites.
28:59
Speaker 1: And that made me a hardcore guy. I grew up
29:02
Speaker 1: on the streets. I hung out with some of the
29:04
Speaker 1: worst of the worst people. Most of those people were
29:06
Speaker 1: dead or in prison. I could have been there myself.
29:10
Speaker 1: And through it all, God had this plan over me,
29:14
Speaker 1: and he kept me safe. I've been in many life-threatening
29:16
Speaker 1: situations throughout my lifetime. He's kept me safe through all
29:20
Speaker 1: of it because he needed me to be where I'm
29:23
Speaker 1: at right now in helping others. I'm convinced of it now,
29:26
Speaker 1: and I thank him and praise him for it. But
29:30
Speaker 1: after the deaths of my mother and grandmother, I really
29:33
Speaker 1: didn't want to live anymore, Mia. And I've had, where
29:37
Speaker 1: you see some of those guys and there's an action. films,
29:40
Speaker 1: you know, I lived that life for real. And I
29:43
Speaker 1: was looking for a means to an end. I didn't
29:46
Speaker 1: want to live anymore. So I lived my life on
29:48
Speaker 1: the edge because I was looking to be out of
29:50
Speaker 1: this world. And so I lived that way for a
29:52
Speaker 1: long time. And then I made the greatest decision that
29:55
Speaker 1: I ever made in my life. And that was to
29:57
Speaker 1: make God first, to be real with him, And then
30:01
Speaker 1: he was real with me. So I, one day I
30:04
Speaker 1: was just tired of being sick and tired. I said,
30:07
Speaker 1: I don't want this life anymore. I don't want to
30:10
Speaker 1: drink anymore. I don't want to use drugs anymore. I
30:13
Speaker 1: don't want any of this. I said, if you can
30:16
Speaker 1: help me, I'll serve you. And I'll certainly do everything
30:19
Speaker 1: that I can to serve you. And I was real
30:21
Speaker 1: and sincere. And it was like a switch from that
30:28
Speaker 1: moment forward. after coming back to him, after submitting before him,
30:34
Speaker 1: after declaring that it would make him first at serving,
30:37
Speaker 1: it was like a switch turned on. I had no
30:40
Speaker 1: more desire for alcohol or drugs. I see it as
30:43
Speaker 1: my mortal enemy now. Somebody can lay a $ 50, 000 check
30:48
Speaker 1: down here on my desk right now and say, hey,
30:50
Speaker 1: let's go get drunk or whatever. I'd tear it up
30:52
Speaker 1: and throw that person out. I have no desire for that.
30:55
Speaker 1: I know what it is and I know what it
30:57
Speaker 1: does to people. And I'm so thankful that God not
31:00
Speaker 1: only heard my prayer, but he honored it and brought
31:03
Speaker 1: forth that transformation over me to where I had no
31:06
Speaker 1: more desire for that. And I could see the truth
31:08
Speaker 1: as to what it is and what it was and
31:10
Speaker 1: what it is now. Uh, but after that, Mia, it
31:15
Speaker 1: required me to make some changes because when we, we
31:21
Speaker 1: develop bad behavioral patterns, okay. when we're living that kind
31:25
Speaker 1: of lifestyle, as I mentioned, growing up on the streets
31:28
Speaker 1: and hanging out with some undesirable people. I mean, I
31:30
Speaker 1: had some good friends that were great friends with me
31:33
Speaker 1: at times, but I also had some arts criminal friends
31:36
Speaker 1: and I could have been there, you know, right in
31:37
Speaker 1: prison or dead, you know, where they are. So when
31:41
Speaker 1: you develop that type of mindset and behavioral pattern, it's
31:47
Speaker 1: very difficult to break because that's an addiction in itself,
31:50
Speaker 1: an outlaw mentality that where you start to rejoice at
31:55
Speaker 1: being bad and doing bad things. And that becomes a
31:58
Speaker 1: way of life. And so I had to completely sort
32:03
Speaker 1: of rewire my thinking into saying, now, look, I can't
32:07
Speaker 1: have this life anymore. And this goes for this lifestyle too,
32:11
Speaker 1: that I could do better and be better. I can
32:13
Speaker 1: have a hope and a future. And so there started
32:17
Speaker 1: the process of the behavioral pattern changes. And it was
32:23
Speaker 1: a very tough road. It was two steps forward and
32:25
Speaker 1: three steps backward until I got there. But once I
32:28
Speaker 1: got there, I was so far removed from it. I
32:31
Speaker 1: looked and looking back, I thought, dear God, it's like
32:34
Speaker 1: it's happened to somebody else. You know, this is not me.
32:36
Speaker 1: This is not my life. But that's what God can do.
32:39
Speaker 1: He can make the impossible possible. You just have to
32:41
Speaker 1: be real and authentic with him. Unfortunately, there's a lot
32:44
Speaker 1: of charlatans out there that mislead people in a million
32:46
Speaker 1: different kinds of ways. And this is why I say
32:49
Speaker 1: to people, you can develop a real and authentic relationship
32:52
Speaker 1: with God. You don't need anybody to guide you there.
32:55
Speaker 1: You be real with him. He'll be real with you.
32:57
Speaker 1: He'll meet you where you are, and then he will
32:58
Speaker 1: help you to transform just like he did for me.
33:01
Speaker 1: If he would do it for somebody like me, he'll
33:03
Speaker 1: do it for somebody like you. So that is the
33:05
Speaker 1: key to everything, is authenticity and consistency. So you have
33:11
Speaker 1: to be consistent in that relationship. You'll never achieve perfection,
33:14
Speaker 1: but I'll guarantee you one thing, and this is based
33:16
Speaker 1: on my personal experience. I once had a life that
33:20
Speaker 1: was so horrible that I was seeking death. And now
33:22
Speaker 1: I have a life that's so blessed that I wouldn't
33:24
Speaker 1: trade my life for anybody's life on this planet. And
33:27
Speaker 1: that's the God's honest truth. That's what he's done for me.
33:30
Speaker 1: That's what he continues to do for me. And he
33:33
Speaker 1: has blessed me beyond my wildest dreams. I could never
33:38
Speaker 1: imagine the life that I have now. And I'm so
33:40
Speaker 1: grateful and thankful to him for it. Yeah. Absolutely.
33:45
Speaker 2: And you also talk about what you call legal rights,
33:50
Speaker 2: where I guess by drinking maybe and doing drugs and
33:56
Speaker 2: maybe spiritual, what is that? Ghost hunting, things like that.
34:01
Speaker 1: All those things. Right?
34:02
Speaker 2: You're giving them legal rights to open up your life
34:06
Speaker 2: and yourself. Is that what that means?
34:08
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And you'd be shocked at how many
34:11
Speaker 1: people have come to me for help that you know,
34:14
Speaker 1: were in the ghost hunting investigations and some of them
34:18
Speaker 1: people on TV, some of them big stars, you'd be surprised.
34:23
Speaker 1: And you'd also be surprised to know that a lot
34:26
Speaker 1: of priests, pastors, clergy have come to me for help.
34:29
Speaker 1: I've been flown to churches all over America to assist
34:35
Speaker 1: clergy and pastors and ministers who were under spiritual attack
34:40
Speaker 1: to the point that they were ready to unalive themselves.
34:43
Speaker 1: And you would be shocked, Mia, so this, yes, the
34:45
Speaker 1: ghost hunting, I equate it in this way. If you
34:50
Speaker 1: pulled up to a beach and the sign says shark
34:54
Speaker 1: infested waters, don't swim here. But if you still jump in, well,
35:00
Speaker 1: guess what? Whose fault is it? Yours. And you gave
35:03
Speaker 1: a legal right to the devil and those sharks to
35:06
Speaker 1: devour you. It's the same thing in that world of
35:09
Speaker 1: ghost hunting and people being And look, these TV shows
35:14
Speaker 1: have glorified all this now. It's big business. So there
35:18
Speaker 1: are different reasons why people would do this. Now, one,
35:22
Speaker 1: a person could be misled into thinking that they can
35:25
Speaker 1: perform a service for God by sending entities to the
35:30
Speaker 1: light or whatever. I'm sorry. It's all deception. And then two,
35:34
Speaker 1: a person could want their 15 minutes of fame. And
35:38
Speaker 1: all of a sudden declare that they're this big ghost
35:40
Speaker 1: hunter and all this kind of stuff. And they're going
35:42
Speaker 1: to go on YouTube and then they're going to get
35:44
Speaker 1: a TV show and all this kind of stuff. So
35:46
Speaker 1: they're down for anything. There's a couple of people that get, well,
35:49
Speaker 1: more than a couple, but a couple that come to
35:51
Speaker 1: mind right now that are down for anything. They're big
35:54
Speaker 1: TV stars. They're on their shows, which I've never watched.
35:58
Speaker 1: I've seen clips of. And they're provoking demonic entities. And really,
36:04
Speaker 1: if you're provoking, you're invoking. And these people have no
36:08
Speaker 1: idea what they have opened themselves up to. And these
36:13
Speaker 1: are also some very unhappy people and very unstable people,
36:18
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. So when we come into a
36:21
Speaker 1: real authentic relationship with God, the things that we need
36:25
Speaker 1: to seek, A, be real with him, he'll be real
36:27
Speaker 1: with us. B, be consistent in that relationship. You will
36:32
Speaker 1: not get a perfect life as a result of it,
36:34
Speaker 1: but what you will get is a very good and
36:37
Speaker 1: a very blessed and a very stable life. We always
36:40
Speaker 1: want to be in the center. We don't want to
36:42
Speaker 1: veer too far one way or the other, because if
36:44
Speaker 1: we do, disastrous things can happen. So it's all about
36:48
Speaker 1: consistency and stability. So when we flip the coin and
36:52
Speaker 1: look at that world that you just mentioned, There is
36:55
Speaker 1: no stability. It's completely unstable. It's completely dark. It's completely dramatic.
37:00
Speaker 1: These people don't even get along with each other. I mean,
37:02
Speaker 1: they're always at odds with each other because everybody's trying
37:04
Speaker 1: to get a piece of the sidewalk. Everybody wants their
37:07
Speaker 1: piece of the pie and their crumb. And it's very sad.
37:10
Speaker 1: And look, I've helped a lot of these types of people.
37:13
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that are in this
37:15
Speaker 1: type of thing. I love them. I wish them the best,
37:18
Speaker 1: but they know that I'm not in agreement with them
37:20
Speaker 1: and I'm not down with any of that stuff. And
37:22
Speaker 1: so that sort of puts us at odds, and that's okay, too.
37:26
Speaker 1: Even if I'm a man on an island, I am
37:29
Speaker 1: not going to comply with the world just so I
37:31
Speaker 1: can be popular and accepted when I know that it's wrong. Yeah.
37:37
Speaker 2: And like you said, you're opening yourself up. I'm sure
37:40
Speaker 2: they have attachments when they leave.
37:42
Speaker 1: Oh.
37:43
Speaker 2: You know that follow them? Absolutely. And destroy their lives.
37:48
Speaker 2: But you don't know that part of the story.
37:49
Speaker 1: And their family's lives as well. Exactly. Exactly.
37:51
Speaker 2: But you don't know that side of the story. You
37:53
Speaker 2: only see what you see on the TV. So, yeah,
37:56
Speaker 2: that's scary. You also get into UFO side in your story. Now,
38:02
Speaker 2: your first sighting happened with, I guess, was with you
38:05
Speaker 2: and your family in 1977.
38:06
Speaker 1: Well, you probably remember all these things. That's fantastic. Yes,
38:11
Speaker 1: that's true. What you say is absolutely the truth. But
38:15
Speaker 1: I will say this. My mother had an old photo collection.
38:19
Speaker 1: which I never knew existed until around 2005. And my
38:24
Speaker 1: wife and I were over at my sister's house, Christmas
38:26
Speaker 1: of 2005. And my sister asked me if I wanted
38:30
Speaker 1: some of those old family photographs. And I said, sure.
38:33
Speaker 1: And I took them and I went home and I
38:34
Speaker 1: started looking through them and I was shocked. I was
38:38
Speaker 1: shocked to see some of these photographs that my mother
38:40
Speaker 1: saved and she saved them for a reason. You should
38:43
Speaker 1: have seen, and I, well, you have seen some of them.
38:46
Speaker 1: I've posted some of them, sent some to you. The
38:49
Speaker 1: supernatural things that were taking place in some of those photographs.
38:53
Speaker 1: And so the earliest known photo of me where something
38:56
Speaker 1: supernatural was taking place was a photo that was taken
38:59
Speaker 1: in 1968, looked like Christmas time, 1968. I was two
39:04
Speaker 1: years old. My sister was nine, or she was 11.
39:07
Speaker 1: She's nine years older than me. We're seated behind a
39:11
Speaker 1: toy piano. She's seated to my left, and to her
39:14
Speaker 1: far left is this, had to be at least seven
39:17
Speaker 1: feet tall, this black hooded entity. So that's 1968. And
39:22
Speaker 1: then the following year, 1969, I guess it was my
39:26
Speaker 1: dad who took the photograph, a Polaroid photo of a
39:29
Speaker 1: three-year-old boy standing in front of the bushes. And then
39:32
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's all these others in the photograph.
39:35
Speaker 1: It's like three humanoid beings standing behind me, another very
39:39
Speaker 1: tall lion-looking figure standing behind them and me. And then
39:45
Speaker 1: these other faces, and then including... what looked to be
39:48
Speaker 1: like one of those little gray alien guys standing to
39:51
Speaker 1: my left, and then two other faces that looked to
39:54
Speaker 1: be the faces of Bigfoot. So it was as if
39:58
Speaker 1: at that moment, a dimensional doorway had opened and all
40:03
Speaker 1: these different beings came through. It's an extraordinary photograph, again,
40:07
Speaker 1: Polaroid photo taken in 1969. So that predates that first sighting,
40:14
Speaker 1: my first sighting with the family, in 1977, but there
40:17
Speaker 1: was another photograph that I came across out of her collection.
40:21
Speaker 1: It was a stunning image, and it is in the
40:23
Speaker 1: Bean Files book, as well as the other images that
40:27
Speaker 1: I just mentioned. This photo was taken of my mother
40:32
Speaker 1: in that house in 1975. She's on the phone. I
40:37
Speaker 1: don't know who took the photo. I don't know if
40:39
Speaker 1: it was before my dad had left or if it
40:41
Speaker 1: was another family member that took the photo. I'm not
40:44
Speaker 1: sure of that. But behind her is a long rectangular mirror.
40:52
Speaker 1: And then to the left of that mirror is an
40:54
Speaker 1: oval-shaped mirror. Now, my mother's on the phone. Whoever took
40:58
Speaker 1: the picture took the picture. And in the oval-shaped mirror,
41:03
Speaker 1: just as clearly as I could see you and you
41:06
Speaker 1: could see me, is what looks to be this gray
41:10
Speaker 1: alien-looking being with big black eyes, big face, clear as day.
41:15
Speaker 1: And then if you look further, you could see the little,
41:19
Speaker 1: either it's the same one or a different one, standing
41:22
Speaker 1: beside my mother, just probably about three feet tall, just
41:26
Speaker 1: above her waist. And you could see the flash of
41:30
Speaker 1: the camera coming off of his head. So that's another
41:33
Speaker 1: extraordinary photograph that was taken in 1975. And then in 1977,
41:38
Speaker 1: my father had come home for a visit. The power
41:41
Speaker 1: went out in the house and all the houses in
41:44
Speaker 1: the area. He went outside to investigate. He comes back in,
41:48
Speaker 1: collects us, and we go out in the backyard, and
41:51
Speaker 1: there is this brilliant white object shaped like a, I say,
41:57
Speaker 1: I've described it as like a chef's hat or a
41:59
Speaker 1: mushroom or whatever, in the sky, silently hovering, very low altitude,
42:06
Speaker 1: over a utility pole in the ravine. Now, here's something
42:10
Speaker 1: that I've failed to note in most of my interviews
42:14
Speaker 1: over the years. And I thought about it, you know,
42:17
Speaker 1: when I was writing this most recent book, The Bean Files,
42:20
Speaker 1: and I started scanning that ravine in my mind. And
42:24
Speaker 1: I remembered that the object was hovering over a utility pole,
42:29
Speaker 1: but it was adjacent to one of those little power shacks.
42:35
Speaker 1: So they had these little almost shed looking things back
42:38
Speaker 1: then that was like a power supply for the community.
42:42
Speaker 1: And it was hovering over that. And so it hovered
42:45
Speaker 1: out there. And it was not just our family standing
42:49
Speaker 1: in the backyard watching. And probably 40 yards from our
42:52
Speaker 1: back door over the ravine, there were other families that
42:55
Speaker 1: came out in their yards as well. And we were
42:57
Speaker 1: all watching this. And it hovered silently for almost an hour.
43:01
Speaker 1: And then it just gently and gradually rose in altitude
43:04
Speaker 1: and slowly headed off to the north. And when that happened,
43:08
Speaker 1: then all the power came back on in the houses.
43:11
Speaker 1: So that's where it started with the UFO experiences. And people, again,
43:16
Speaker 1: it's very difficult for some people because you have the
43:19
Speaker 1: nuts and bolts UFO people that say, no way, this
43:22
Speaker 1: is not paranormal in any way. You have the ghost
43:25
Speaker 1: people that say, there's no way that aliens are connected
43:28
Speaker 1: with ghosts or demons or whatever. And then you have
43:32
Speaker 1: the religious people that say, all of it is garbage.
43:35
Speaker 1: They either try to dismiss it or they say, you
43:37
Speaker 1: need to ignore that because that's all of the devil.
43:40
Speaker 1: So- It is a very taboo type of subject. And
43:45
Speaker 1: you can quickly become a person on an island by
43:49
Speaker 1: having these types of experiences. But again, I don't care
43:52
Speaker 1: because the truth is the truth and there's no substitute
43:54
Speaker 1: for it. And any substitute for the truth is a lie.
43:57
Speaker 1: And that's where the devil's in the details. So that
44:01
Speaker 1: was the first experience or sighting that I had of
44:06
Speaker 1: a UFO. And then by.
44:11
Speaker 1: And let me say this as well, throughout that entire
44:14
Speaker 1: ravine and area, there were many legends and stories of UFOs, sightings, aliens,
44:22
Speaker 1: and Bigfoot. All through, they called the Bigfoot people the
44:27
Speaker 1: Gully Man. They'd say, don't let the Gully Man get you.
44:30
Speaker 1: And so that was their name for the Bigfoot. But
44:33
Speaker 1: I mean, these stories were all around for many, many
44:36
Speaker 1: years through there. And so an odd thing... happened in 1995.
44:44
Speaker 1: So that was my first UFO sighting. I had had
44:47
Speaker 1: other sightings throughout my lifetime since then, but then when
44:51
Speaker 1: I got to 1995, January of 1995, something happened, and
44:56
Speaker 1: it was almost like this doorway opened, and I started
44:59
Speaker 1: to have these regular experiences, encounters, and sightings of these
45:06
Speaker 1: unidentified flying objects. They call them UAPs now. I'm That's
45:11
Speaker 1: where it started on a regular basis. And so why
45:16
Speaker 1: is that? I have no idea except to say that
45:20
Speaker 1: for people, and people in the religious circles are very
45:25
Speaker 1: quick to dismiss this as demonic, satanic. Some of it is,
45:29
Speaker 1: but some of it is not. I've had many divine
45:32
Speaker 1: encounters involving UFOs, non-human beings, and angels as well. And
45:39
Speaker 1: so Psalm 68, 17 says the chariots of God are 20,000, okay?
45:43
Speaker 1: So that's the origins, if the Bible's correct, those are
45:47
Speaker 1: the origins of the flying Merkabah craft. Now, when Hasatan,
45:52
Speaker 1: Satan the devil, was cast out of heaven with a
45:54
Speaker 1: third of the angels, Bani Elohim, the sons of God, they,
45:58
Speaker 1: in my opinion and belief, were evicted out of heaven
46:04
Speaker 1: in those flying chariots. And they came down here and
46:06
Speaker 1: they took human women, had unnatural acts with them, produced
46:10
Speaker 1: a hybrid offspring of giants called the Nephilim. The Nephilim
46:13
Speaker 1: went into the forest and the fields and had unnatural
46:16
Speaker 1: relations with apes, bears, wolves, dogs, monkeys, you name it.
46:19
Speaker 1: And those are the Bigfoot Sasquatch Sabe people, which are
46:24
Speaker 1: every bit as much supernatural as they are flesh and blood.
46:28
Speaker 1: And I've had many experiences with them as well. So
46:31
Speaker 1: this is how I can say, so for the person
46:34
Speaker 1: that would say, how can he connect all this? Well,
46:37
Speaker 1: I can connect it and I'm connecting it for you
46:39
Speaker 1: right now through my personal experiences. It is all very
46:42
Speaker 1: much related, all connected. So the devil, again, is very clever.
46:47
Speaker 1: You know, he was evicted out of his high position
46:50
Speaker 1: as choir director in heaven. He was privy to some
46:53
Speaker 1: of the secrets. And then again, for people say, well,
46:56
Speaker 1: they think that the devil is just this independent being
47:01
Speaker 1: that happened on the scene. Wrong. He is a created being,
47:05
Speaker 1: which makes him a son of God, too. Because if
47:07
Speaker 1: Yahweh created the universe and created everything, well, then he
47:11
Speaker 1: created the devil, too, which makes him a son of God, too.
47:13
Speaker 1: He's the rebel son of God, okay? And so that's
47:16
Speaker 1: how this all started. And that's how the rebellion started.
47:19
Speaker 1: And that's why he was kicked out of his position
47:23
Speaker 1: of choir director into the position of being the adversary
47:26
Speaker 1: of mankind. Because Yahweh created us to have free will.
47:31
Speaker 1: So if mankind has free will, then there must be
47:34
Speaker 1: a consequence for actions and choices and decisions. And the
47:39
Speaker 1: devil fulfills his role through perfection in being that adversary
47:44
Speaker 1: to mankind. That's why he's never destroyed.
47:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, you answered my next question. I was going to
47:50
Speaker 2: ask you about the chariots. Ezekiel's vision and Elijah's chariots
47:56
Speaker 2: are fired, so.
47:58
Speaker 1: There's over 100 scriptures in the Bible, Mia, that talk
48:00
Speaker 1: about these events and these sightings and these interactions. And,
48:04
Speaker 1: you know, people like Ezekiel, Elijah, he was taken up. Enoch,
48:08
Speaker 1: he was taken up. They never saw death. So that
48:11
Speaker 1: means the flying chariot came and took them up somewhere,
48:14
Speaker 1: I guess, in the Yahweh's heavenly kingdom. And that was it.
48:19
Speaker 1: And then the biblical accounts in the New Testament, Jesus
48:22
Speaker 1: was abducted and watched for the response of good on this. Well,
48:26
Speaker 1: if if that story has any truth to it whatsoever
48:31
Speaker 1: about the devil coming to Jesus when he was in
48:33
Speaker 1: the desert for 40 days and he took him up
48:36
Speaker 1: to a pinnacle, that means a high place, and you
48:39
Speaker 1: can't take somebody up to a pinnacle unless you have
48:42
Speaker 1: some type of craft that you could take them all
48:45
Speaker 1: the way up there and then perhaps show the whole
48:47
Speaker 1: world to him on the screens that are inside the
48:50
Speaker 1: craft and and then, you know, says, if you'll get
48:53
Speaker 1: down on your knees and worship me, it's all yours. Now,
48:55
Speaker 1: who could say that? Number one, who could take the
48:59
Speaker 1: Son of God against his will, and then who could
49:03
Speaker 1: make that offer to him? Well, I'll tell you who.
49:05
Speaker 1: The older brother who feels that it is his birthright,
49:09
Speaker 1: the world is his birthright, therefore he could offer that
49:13
Speaker 1: to the younger brother. There's a theme throughout the Bible, okay? One,
49:18
Speaker 1: and I'm every book of the old testament yahweh brings
49:22
Speaker 1: forth the savior to his people two there's always the
49:26
Speaker 1: brother versus brother theme it is all throughout and that
49:30
Speaker 1: started in the garden where i believe eve it's much
49:33
Speaker 1: more to do uh much more than a piece of
49:36
Speaker 1: fruit I think Eve had unnatural sexual relations with the
49:40
Speaker 1: devil and her husband as well, which produced the devil's seed,
49:45
Speaker 1: which was Cain. And that's why he slew his brother Abel,
49:47
Speaker 1: because there was enmity, which means hatred between the two.
49:51
Speaker 1: And so that's where it all started. And then the
49:53
Speaker 1: whole theme throughout the Old Testament is brother versus brother.
49:58
Speaker 2: Sounds like a movie.
49:59
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting? Yes, exactly. You can't put those dots together.
50:03
Speaker 1: And some have vilified me and really have engaged in
50:06
Speaker 1: debates with Bible scholars over it. And you wouldn't believe
50:10
Speaker 1: the level of attack that I've come under from saying
50:13
Speaker 1: these things. But look, I believe I am a truth seeker.
50:16
Speaker 1: So I seek the truth. So I know the truth.
50:19
Speaker 1: So I can speak the truth. So I can teach
50:21
Speaker 1: the truth. So if you want to believe. The cookie
50:25
Speaker 1: cutter versions of things, well, that's okay. You could stay
50:28
Speaker 1: in your own little box and that's fine. But if
50:31
Speaker 1: you want to step out of the box and have
50:32
Speaker 1: a better understanding of life and how things work, then
50:37
Speaker 1: it's going to require a bold step out of that
50:39
Speaker 1: box to seek wisdom and knowledge.
50:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the strangest experiences in your book is
50:46
Speaker 2: what you described as an abduction in 1996.
50:48
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
50:50
Speaker 2: You woke up with a tall, pale green being with
50:53
Speaker 2: large black eyes, mantis-like head standing in your bedroom.
50:57
Speaker 1: You're amazing. That's impressive. I'll tell you, it's very rare
51:02
Speaker 1: when somebody knows all this information going into it. And
51:06
Speaker 1: it's all true. Yes, that's absolutely true. And this began,
51:11
Speaker 1: my wife and I went to bed, I think it
51:13
Speaker 1: was probably, I don't know, somewhere around 2.45 a.m. maybe. And, um,
51:19
Speaker 1: We had a little dog, a little Yorkie, and that
51:22
Speaker 1: little dog would bark at any noise. You couldn't sneak
51:25
Speaker 1: past that dog for anything. So we get into bed.
51:29
Speaker 1: The dog's bed is on the floor next to her side,
51:32
Speaker 1: my wife's side. We get into bed, and I noticed
51:37
Speaker 1: that they were like immediately asleep. I looked over at her,
51:41
Speaker 1: and I even looked down at the dog, and it
51:42
Speaker 1: just was weird. There was enough light in the room
51:45
Speaker 1: to where I could see her and the dog. I
51:49
Speaker 1: couldn't go to sleep. I just, I felt uneasy. And
51:53
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, as I was
51:56
Speaker 1: trying to go to sleep, I heard this big pop
52:00
Speaker 1: in the room, big popping noise. Now I'm, you know,
52:05
Speaker 1: startled and up off my feet. I'm like, whoa, what
52:09
Speaker 1: is this? What, you know, and it was right in
52:11
Speaker 1: the room. It was right there with us. So I
52:15
Speaker 1: turned the lights on. My wife never woke up. The
52:18
Speaker 1: dog never woke up. That was very strange. And I
52:21
Speaker 1: go through the entire place, turn the lights on, don't
52:26
Speaker 1: see anything out of the ordinary. I turn all the
52:29
Speaker 1: lights off, go back to bed, I try to lay down,
52:34
Speaker 1: and now I cannot go to sleep. And I'm opening
52:37
Speaker 1: my eyes every several seconds because I know something's there.
52:41
Speaker 1: I can't see it, but I feel it. And so
52:44
Speaker 1: every time I tried to close my eyes, it would
52:46
Speaker 1: come right back open. So this went on for a while,
52:49
Speaker 1: and I think we had a TV on a TV
52:55
Speaker 1: stand past the foot of the bed, probably 10 feet
52:58
Speaker 1: away from the foot of the bed. And back then,
53:03
Speaker 1: you know, you had BCRs, and it was a BCR
53:06
Speaker 1: underneath of that with a clock. And it was blue.
53:10
Speaker 1: The clock had blue lighting. And I recall, I'm pretty
53:16
Speaker 1: sure it was 401. the last time I saw on
53:20
Speaker 1: that clock. And then all of a sudden, this being
53:24
Speaker 1: appeared at the foot of the bed, again, at least
53:28
Speaker 1: seven feet tall. And it was glowing like green, like
53:33
Speaker 1: a yellowish green. And it had the big black eyes,
53:36
Speaker 1: long skinny arms, long skinny fingers. I.
53:44
Speaker 1: I could move, but at the same time, I was
53:46
Speaker 1: just so mesmerized by what I was seeing. My wife
53:50
Speaker 1: wouldn't wake up. The dog wouldn't wake up. Then the
53:55
Speaker 1: being took its left hand and wrapped those fingers around
54:00
Speaker 1: my right ankle. I will never, ever forget it, Mia.
54:03
Speaker 1: The coldness of that hand wrapping around those fingers, wrapping
54:08
Speaker 1: around my ankle. I felt paralyzed after that. Then it
54:13
Speaker 1: turn me over like on my left side. I don't
54:16
Speaker 1: know if it was doing something on my back or whatever.
54:19
Speaker 1: I don't know. But next thing you know, after that,
54:22
Speaker 1: I'm somewhere else. And now it's sort of like, think
54:29
Speaker 1: about being in the backseat of a car. And I'm
54:31
Speaker 1: not saying that I was in the backseat of a car.
54:33
Speaker 1: I don't know where I was. I wasn't in my
54:35
Speaker 1: bed anymore. I can tell you that. And, and so
54:38
Speaker 1: there's this human looking sort of human looking, Male seated
54:44
Speaker 1: next to me, I think, was a man in black,
54:48
Speaker 1: black suit, clean shaven, slick back hair, very chalky skin,
54:55
Speaker 1: similar to the entities that I saw in that house,
54:58
Speaker 1: you know, back in 1979. And the he was seated,
55:04
Speaker 1: you know, very straight, very upright and very rigid. And
55:08
Speaker 1: then he turned his head. So I'm he's to my left.
55:13
Speaker 1: And he turned his head towards me like this, never
55:16
Speaker 1: moved his body, turned his head, sinister look. And he said,
55:20
Speaker 1: don't talk about this. And the next thing you know,
55:25
Speaker 1: I'm back in my bed. I felt like I was
55:28
Speaker 1: run over. You know, I felt horrible. I was a
55:30
Speaker 1: very powerful man back then. I was a power lifter.
55:32
Speaker 1: I could bench press 500 pounds. I was a very
55:35
Speaker 1: powerful individual. But I felt like I'd had a very
55:39
Speaker 1: strenuous workout and I was completely fatigued. And I will never,
55:45
Speaker 1: ever forget that as long as I live. And I've
55:47
Speaker 1: had other experiences like that as well. And I failed
55:50
Speaker 1: to answer your question earlier about age 13, my first
55:59
Speaker 1: encounter as a spiritual warrior. And I believe that was
56:02
Speaker 1: the test that God put on me to see if
56:05
Speaker 1: I could be who he wanted me and needed me
56:07
Speaker 1: to be. And so on that day, which was that
56:11
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for jumping around, but I want to answer
56:12
Speaker 1: this for you because it came to mind. July 1979,
56:21
Speaker 1: my mother was just picked up by an unseen force
56:25
Speaker 1: by the back of her neck and thrown across the room.
56:27
Speaker 1: She landed into her makeup table. She was cut open.
56:30
Speaker 1: She was scratched. She was bruised. All of the years
56:35
Speaker 1: of abuse and being in that level of fear-based, trauma-based
56:39
Speaker 1: life mind control, it all came to a head there.
56:46
Speaker 1: And just before that, I'd had a dialogue and a
56:51
Speaker 1: meeting with my Uncle Clifford, who was a very devout Christian,
56:55
Speaker 1: and he planted seeds of faith with me in saying
56:57
Speaker 1: that we could take power and authority over these demonic
57:00
Speaker 1: forces by the power of God. So little did I
57:02
Speaker 1: know that the very day that I returned from Florida
57:07
Speaker 1: and meeting with my Uncle Clifford, that I would be
57:10
Speaker 1: put into this situation now confronting these demonic entities. And
57:16
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. After seeing my mother attack like that,
57:19
Speaker 1: something snapped inside of me and the fear was gone.
57:23
Speaker 1: The trauma was gone. It was replaced by burning anger
57:28
Speaker 1: and a ferocity that I never had my entire life.
57:33
Speaker 1: And so then I grabbed a Bible and and a
57:38
Speaker 1: mason jar full of holy water. I failed to mention
57:41
Speaker 1: that a priest was involved for the last 16 months
57:43
Speaker 1: that we lived there. My family, not Catholic, but my
57:46
Speaker 1: step-grandfather was. He went to his church. They sent a priest.
57:49
Speaker 1: He was involved for the last 16 months that we
57:51
Speaker 1: lived there, and he was bringing mason jars full of
57:53
Speaker 1: holy water to the house. So when this happened, on
57:56
Speaker 1: that day, I grabbed the Bible, and I grabbed a
58:00
Speaker 1: mason jar full of that holy water, and I began. Now,
58:03
Speaker 1: here's where I made my mistake. My uncle told me,
58:07
Speaker 1: that we could bind the rebuke and cast out these
58:09
Speaker 1: entities by the power of God. But what I did,
58:11
Speaker 1: here's where I made the mistake. I called them out
58:15
Speaker 1: and commanded them to show themselves. Big mistake. And so
58:19
Speaker 1: when I did that, it became like a scene from
58:22
Speaker 1: a horror film. The house started vibrating and shaking. Things
58:25
Speaker 1: started falling off the walls. Doors were opening and slamming.
58:29
Speaker 1: I was 13 years old, and there were five adults
58:31
Speaker 1: with me. My mother, and she had a new man
58:33
Speaker 1: in her life at that time named Richard. and my
58:36
Speaker 1: grandmother was present, and my mother's sister, Joyce, was present
58:40
Speaker 1: with her boyfriend. So there were five adults there. They
58:42
Speaker 1: were terrified. I should have been terrified as well, but
58:45
Speaker 1: I was angry. And so calling these things out, it's
58:47
Speaker 1: like a scene from a horror film. They are following
58:51
Speaker 1: me up the hallway, and we get to the end
58:54
Speaker 1: of the hallway. I go left in the living room.
58:58
Speaker 1: They go right into the dining room. And I continued
59:02
Speaker 1: to command these things to show themselves and they did
59:05
Speaker 1: show themselves. And they started to materialize in greenish yellowish
59:10
Speaker 1: beams of light very similar to where i saw that
59:14
Speaker 1: other entity whatever it was you know the alien looking
59:17
Speaker 1: entity glowing that yellowish greenish color well they materialized and
59:24
Speaker 1: and one was a man in a black suit, had
59:27
Speaker 1: a black beard. Sometimes he wore a hat. On this day,
59:29
Speaker 1: he wasn't. And it was chalky, very chalky white skin.
59:34
Speaker 1: The eyes were black. The second entity had red hair,
59:38
Speaker 1: like close crop curly red hair, long scar, clean shaven,
59:43
Speaker 1: long scar down the left side of the face, black
59:45
Speaker 1: eyes too. The third being was a female, look of
59:49
Speaker 1: a female, long black gown, long dark hair, sharp facial features.
59:55
Speaker 1: And then the fourth entity was what I call the
59:58
Speaker 1: dark force entity, probably the ringleader of it all, was
1:00:01
Speaker 1: this very tall hooded entity with glowing red eyes. I
1:00:07
Speaker 1: clearly saw them. The adults clearly saw them for several seconds.
1:00:10
Speaker 1: And then they just didn't suddenly vanish. They dissipated. And
1:00:15
Speaker 1: as they dissipated, all the chaotic things had stopped in
1:00:19
Speaker 1: the house and a peace came over the house. We
1:00:22
Speaker 1: ended up leaving and going to Richard's house for the weekend.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: We came back and of course it started all over
1:00:27
Speaker 1: again until we finally left there. But I wanted to
1:00:30
Speaker 1: mention that to you because you had asked me that
1:00:32
Speaker 1: question and please forgive me. There's so much content and
1:00:36
Speaker 1: information that I had gone past that. So I wanted
1:00:39
Speaker 1: to sort of bring that full circle.
1:00:42
Speaker 2: And for someone listening who feels like something unexplained or
1:00:47
Speaker 2: spiritual may be happening in their own life, What would
1:00:51
Speaker 2: you want them to understand before they go looking for
1:00:54
Speaker 2: answers in the paranormal?
1:00:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, the main thing, please, if you are watching this
1:01:01
Speaker 1: and if you don't believe anything that I'm saying at all,
1:01:04
Speaker 1: that's okay, but you can believe this. The best decision
1:01:08
Speaker 1: and choice that you can make is to develop a
1:01:11
Speaker 1: real and authentic relationship with God because you want to
1:01:14
Speaker 1: be under the blessings of Deuteronomy 28 and you want
1:01:17
Speaker 1: to be under the protection of Psalm 91. So if
1:01:19
Speaker 1: you can Develop that relationship. Then you'll develop your faith.
1:01:25
Speaker 1: And you, in developing that faith, you will have blessed
1:01:29
Speaker 1: assurance that God is with you and for you. Now,
1:01:31
Speaker 1: that doesn't make you exempt from any kind of demonic
1:01:34
Speaker 1: attack because I've helped plenty of people that had strong
1:01:37
Speaker 1: faith continue to do so. But what it does is
1:01:41
Speaker 1: it helps you to invoke and activate the power of
1:01:46
Speaker 1: God over these demonic forces. And the number one thing
1:01:50
Speaker 1: is to trade the fear for faith. So if you
1:01:52
Speaker 1: come from a fear-based, trauma-based background, it is essential for you,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: if you want to move forward in life, to trade
1:02:00
Speaker 1: that fear and trauma for faith, what I call warrior mode, faith, strength,
1:02:04
Speaker 1: and courage. And if you could get into that level
1:02:07
Speaker 1: of warrior mode, you're going to be way ahead in
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the game in keeping your foot on top of the devil.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: And if you are having problems like that, and you
1:02:15
Speaker 1: feel like it's, you know, beyond you, then reach out
1:02:18
Speaker 1: to me. You can go... Punch my name into Google
1:02:21
Speaker 1: or you can punch my website up, BillJBean.com. And I'll
1:02:25
Speaker 1: get back to you as quickly as I can. I'll
1:02:27
Speaker 1: do anything and everything that I can by the power
1:02:29
Speaker 1: of God working through me to help you to be
1:02:30
Speaker 1: free from evil. And whether it's me or somebody else,
1:02:33
Speaker 1: don't wait. Because the longer you wait, the worse it
1:02:35
Speaker 1: will get. Yeah.
1:02:38
Speaker 2: And your book, Bean Files, is full of portals, angels, UFOs,
1:02:42
Speaker 2: spiritual warfare, demonic entities. It's an amazing read. I highly
1:02:47
Speaker 2: recommend it. And it's a true story. This is not fictional.
1:02:50
Speaker 2: This is real. This is an amazing read. Bill, thank
1:02:54
Speaker 2: you so much for coming back on this show. It's
1:02:56
Speaker 2: always great catching up with you. And I really appreciate
1:02:59
Speaker 2: you taking the time to share all of this with
1:03:02
Speaker 2: us today. But where can people find you and your
1:03:04
Speaker 2: work again, if you could mention that one more time?
1:03:06
Speaker 1: And I want to thank you again, Mia. It's been
1:03:08
Speaker 1: my pleasure to have been back on with you. And
1:03:11
Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I'm telling you, it's not often when the
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Speaker 1: interviewer knows all this. I have so many more questions.
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Speaker 1: we'll do a part two. We'll come back for part two,
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Speaker 1: but that's impressive to me that you took the time
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Speaker 1: to really do the research and know the questions to
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Speaker 1: ask and understand the information and know the information. So
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Speaker 1: I thank you for that. And again, for those of
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Speaker 1: you out there who want to get a copy of
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Speaker 1: the book, it's on Amazon and you can go to billjbean.com.
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Speaker 1: There's a link right there. You can click on and
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Speaker 1: order your copy and There are a lot of books
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Speaker 1: out there on this topic, okay? But I will say this,
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Speaker 1: and maybe you'll agree with me on this, Mia. I
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Speaker 1: don't know of any other book out there that I've
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Speaker 1: ever become aware of that has over 100 photographs. That's
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Speaker 1: a real authentic photo right there of an angel. I
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Speaker 1: don't know of any other book out there that has this,
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Speaker 1: this combination of That's a real authentic object that I
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Speaker 1: photographed and videotaped in 2022 right from my window over there.
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Speaker 1: I don't know of any other book out there that
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Speaker 1: has over 100 photographs of what I believe to be angels, demons, aliens,
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Speaker 1: and UFOs. I didn't even get to the Bigfoot stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to that in The Bean Files 2.
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Speaker 1: But it's extraordinary in the sense that, A, it's real
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Speaker 1: and authentic. I see these things, I experience these things,
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Speaker 1: and I document them. That's real. B, there's a reason
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Speaker 1: for this. And I'm not sure what the reason is
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Speaker 1: other than to say perhaps it's just a part of
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Speaker 1: my calling as this spiritual warrior to have a better
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Speaker 1: understanding of life and the broader spectrum of life. And
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Speaker 1: if that's the case... I'm very thankful to God, even
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Speaker 1: for the bad experiences. And the reason I say that,
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Speaker 1: now look, I certainly wish I could go back in
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Speaker 1: time and change the events, especially the things that happened
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Speaker 1: to my mother. Believe me, if I could, I would.
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Speaker 1: But I'm thankful to have had the experiences in order
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Speaker 1: for me to be where I'm at now and how
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Speaker 1: God works to me to help people. It was essential,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps it still is, to further broaden my scope
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Speaker 1: and ability and capability by the power of God working
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Speaker 1: through me to help others. That's the best way that
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Speaker 1: I could surmise it. So I'm grateful for everything. And again,
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Speaker 1: I thank you so much for having me. I knew
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Speaker 1: the time was going to go by like a snap.
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Speaker 1: I know. And I look forward to our next interview
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Speaker 1: and I look forward to you coming on Warrior Mode.
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Speaker 1: So we're going to make that happen in December. Yes.
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Speaker 2: Thank you again for sending me your bean files. I
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Speaker 2: truly enjoyed reading it. I'm glad we finally have this
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Speaker 2: chance again to sit down. So thank you, my friend.
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Speaker 1: God bless you and your family, Mia, and we'll talk soon.