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Freaks part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Julia's Basement.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: Due to the ongoing litigation, there's been an ownership change,
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: but part of the settlement was any proceeds due to
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: the many ads, Chumba Casino's in, otherwise we'll be going
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: to the settlement.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: So, thank you for listening.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess Ryan's not the only one with
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: a boss now.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Buckle your shoes!
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Ryan, you just pointed out there's no score in this movie.
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really gave it enough.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: But so what I'm doing right now, shout out to Craig.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Craig was so generous to bring this wonderful bottle of
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: Yukon Jack. And there's a recipe on the back that said,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: pour Yukon Jack over ice with a dash of lime
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: juice to create a snake bite. So I have some
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: lime juice. Keep in mind, Pep, you're not drinking today,
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: but this is one of the worst alcohols I've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like Floki Bad. It's called Yukon Jack. It's
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  Speaker 2: from Cantadia.
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  Speaker 3: Cantadia?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: What is bad about it?
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  Speaker 1: It is, what is bad about it? The taste.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: The taste.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say the taste, really the aftertaste, the slogan is.
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  Speaker 2: Only the strong survive.
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  Speaker 4: Don't smell that bad. It's 100 proof.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: It's 100 proof.
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  Speaker 2: So let me try this. This is lime juice, ice,
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  Speaker 2: and Yukon Jack. This is called the Snake Bite.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out, Craig.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely better.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: It's definitely better.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan, do you want a shot? Sure.
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  Speaker 1: No, do you really?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just try yours.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you meant like a shot of you.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, Frozo's here. He can read the back here. Original
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  Speaker 4: recipe of a born of a rugged adventure like the
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  Speaker 4: legendary character whose name it bears.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, untamed and fearless and baldly flavorful. Whoa, we got
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  Speaker 2: Frozo here. Ryan's not the only one with impressions. You
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  Speaker 2: know what this movie reminded me of? What was the
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  Speaker 2: movie that you and Eric didn't like but I love
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  Speaker 2: that was nominated for Best Picture? With Bradley Cooper about
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  Speaker 2: the freak show.
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  Speaker 1: The Traveling Circus.
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  Speaker 3: Nightmare Alley.
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  Speaker 1: Nightmare Alley.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm surprised you didn't listen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like Nightmare Alley. A lot.
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  Speaker 3: I love it, but it's too long. Not bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's also like an exact remake of a prior movie,
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  Speaker 2: which gets minus points in my opinion, but anyways.
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  Speaker 3: The original movie, I think, is also like half the
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  Speaker 3: length of that movie, too.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't it called The Geek?
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  Speaker 3: The geek? The original movie's called Nightmare Alley, which is
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  Speaker 3: a great movie.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, but like the character in the
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  Speaker 2: freak show that like bites the heads off chickens.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's like a mangy dude. He's not like a, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anywho.
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  Speaker 4: That was not in this one.
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  Speaker 2: We're back. We're talking freaks. We might change the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan was scolded several times during the intermission for trying
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  Speaker 4: to talk about Freaks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to the bathroom and I came
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  Speaker 2: back and Ryan's just going off about the making of
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  Speaker 2: Documentary of Freaks.
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  Speaker 3: I go, why are we talking about this?
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  Speaker 2: It's fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: You guys should check it out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, share it on the pod.
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  Speaker 3: What were you saying?
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  Speaker 5: So the documentary went into the prior, during, and afterlives
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  Speaker 5: of the actors in Freaks because Freaks, obviously, as Tim
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  Speaker 5: said earlier, was met very negatively. So a lot of
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  Speaker 5: the actors tried to disown being part of the movie
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  Speaker 5: because it had such a negative impact.
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  Speaker 3: It's like Sala. Um, bearded lady very much was vocally
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  Speaker 3: against the movie being like this was bad we.
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  Speaker 4: Shouldn't have done this didn't need to be in it
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  Speaker 4: I mean as one.
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  Speaker 5: Scene is pretty important but um so the fascinating story
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  Speaker 5: it's not important it's not important at all.
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  Speaker 1: Um when she has a baby with the skeleton man it's.
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  Speaker 4: Like the one moment of gentleness this entire movie what
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  Speaker 4: is the point of the bearded lady birth scene I
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  Speaker 4: think it's the one moment of like oh see there's
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  Speaker 4: there's a family here in a weird way yeah um.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh Oh, and say Hans was in Wizard of Oz.
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  Speaker 3: Hans was in Wizard of Oz.
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  Speaker 1: As a munchkin.
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  Speaker 5: As one of the representatives of the lollipop kids that
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  Speaker 5: sings and talks to Dorothy.
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  Speaker 4: So Hans is being shown in Vegas right now at
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  Speaker 4: the Sphere. That's something to think about.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, power of the pod.
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  Speaker 1: I'd see a freak show at the Sphere.
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  Speaker 2: No, actually I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. whatever you whatever you're doing right now
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  Speaker 3: to fix this stop i'm just gonna say that that
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  Speaker 3: was really not good he's mixing like 19 things together to.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Counteract yukon jack.
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  Speaker 3: But the um.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't really people in glass houses with gorditas in
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  Speaker 2: front of them we shouldn't throw stones i've had like
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  Speaker 2: four bites also you drank the entire baja blast it
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  Speaker 2: was good.
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  Speaker 4: I am amazed by that it was good um And, like,
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  Speaker 4: when will you have to go to the bathroom?
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  Speaker 3: Because I would have... Oh, I am not allowed to
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  Speaker 3: go to the bathroom here. I've been out for, like,
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  Speaker 3: two and a half years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's a thing. You go outside. Ryan goes outside.
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  Speaker 3: But, also... He actually went in the corner when you
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: were upstairs. It's the cat maker.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: You know those, like, AstroTurf pads you can buy for
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: a dog if you, like, have an apartment?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have one of those for us.
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  Speaker 3: You have, like, a nine-foot one in your backyard for
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  Speaker 3: a human friend.
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  Speaker 2: Just covered in dumps.
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  Speaker 3: So, also.
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  Speaker 5: Pep showed us earlier, but Angelino, who also was in
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  Speaker 5: The Wizard of Oz, he was.
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  Speaker 3: A background actor.
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  Speaker 4: Easily the most accomplished.
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  Speaker 3: I was watching the movie. I was like, his face
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  Speaker 3: just looks so familiar. And then Pep sent a screenshot
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  Speaker 3: from Mad Max Beyond Thunder and I'm like, no fucking way.
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  Speaker 3: He's part of Master Blaster.
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  Speaker 4: 50 years.
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  Speaker 3: He was 81 when he's making Mad Max 3. insane
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  Speaker 3: and it's like a full action scene yeah insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah and i i i want to go back and
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  Speaker 2: say like i feel bad the way i phrased this
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: stuff about microcephaly in part one because i said i
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: elaborated on it but i said it makes me feel
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  Speaker 2: icky like when they're presented in this way and i
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  Speaker 2: don't i don't mean that like they should be put
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  Speaker 2: put away and never seen by the public i just
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  Speaker 2: mean like I remember in middle school and in the
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: early days of the internet, there would be memes making
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  Speaker 2: fun of mentally handicapped people.
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  Speaker 1: And even when I was 12, I never thought those
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  Speaker 1: were funny.
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  Speaker 2: I always hated them, and it just made me sad.
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  Speaker 1: And so many people thought they were funny.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that when there's a portrayal of a
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  Speaker 2: mentally disabled person in a film, it has to be
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  Speaker 2: done in a very delicate way. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: this movie is very delicate.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: I went back and forth. Ryan seemed to very much
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  Speaker 4: think this wasn't, like, expletive at all. And I thought, like,
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  Speaker 4: I can see it.
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  Speaker 3: For what it was going to be, yes. I think.
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  Speaker 1: For the time.
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  Speaker 2: For the time, this is.
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  Speaker 5: Because this, made by, I think, maybe anybody else, it
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  Speaker 5: would have been like, hey, this is a horror movie,
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  Speaker 5: and we found real people who look like this who
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  Speaker 5: are the monsters in this movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I know Cuff is the king of not. doing
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  Speaker 4: any sort of research because you like to have your
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  Speaker 4: own formed opinions, which I appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: For this, I did research, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, so one of the things I will not take
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  Speaker 4: credit for, but I forget where I saw it on
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  Speaker 4: someone said, a very astute point was when there's scenes
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  Speaker 4: with Hans and Frida, is that his name?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When there's scenes with any little person, the way it's
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  Speaker 4: shot is chest up. So they're not trying to show you, wow,
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  Speaker 4: look how small this person is next to you. It's
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  Speaker 4: all shot as if they're just.
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  Speaker 2: Two normal people talking.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that was a great point. I do like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do kind of ride for this movie more, having
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: seen it a second time. The first time, I was
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  Speaker 2: just like, oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll get to the ending.
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  Speaker 2: And there is.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't even mentioned, there is a scene in this
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  Speaker 4: movie that everyone listening right now has seen referenced in.
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  Speaker 1: A movie or TV show.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. We will talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: So Hans gets Clio Champagne, and they're traveling in a circus,
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  Speaker 2: so they all are sort of living in these apartments
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  Speaker 2: that are inside of wagons drawn by, horse-drawn wagons. But
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  Speaker 2: they're in Hans' wagon, or Clio's wagon, doesn't matter, and
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  Speaker 2: Hans buys Clio Champagne. So they don't really.
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  Speaker 1: Explain why he has this money.
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  Speaker 2: It was an inheritance.
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  Speaker 1: An inheritance.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And I wrote, poor Frida.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what is he doing? He's getting her gifts, giving
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  Speaker 2: her champagne, and Cleo is just a bitch. So Frida
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  Speaker 2: and Hans have this come-to-Jesus moment where Frida's like, Hans,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? We're engaged to be married. You're buying
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  Speaker 2: Cleo champagne. You're hanging out with her in the trailer.
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  Speaker 2: This is not appropriate. And Hans is really cool about
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: it at this point. He says, Frida, I've been a coward.
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  Speaker 2: I should have come to you earlier. I'm in love
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  Speaker 2: with Cleo. I am so sorry. I did not handle
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: this the right way. I'm deeply sorry. And Frida says, Hans,
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  Speaker 2: I just want you to be happy. I'm like, wow,
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: this is the greatest breakup ever in film.
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  Speaker 3: It's really well done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cleo is talking to Hercules about how Hans
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  Speaker 2: bought me a bracelet for $ 500.
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  Speaker 1: And we pawned it.
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  Speaker 2: So I always do inflation calculator when we do the pod.
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  Speaker 4: That's $ 12, 000.
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  Speaker 1: Nice job, Hans. That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Now Frida goes to Cleo. Do you remember what, like,
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Frida says to Cleo?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pep, do you remember?
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  Speaker 4: Frida going to Cleo. Doesn't she, like, say, just.
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  Speaker 2: Like, don't hurt him?
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  Speaker 1: Don't hurt Hans.
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  Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. Don't hurt him. He's a
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  Speaker 2: good man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Cleo's just kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Like, fuck off.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this was the whole reveal of, like, Frida thinks
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: that Cleo knows about Hans' inheritance, so she's like, again,
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  Speaker 5: it's not very, it's not handled super well in the movie,
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  Speaker 5: in 1932, but she's like, She's like, I know he
• 9:52
  Speaker 5: told you about the money he's getting, right? Because she
• 9:55
  Speaker 5: thought Hans would have to overcompensate and he would tell
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  Speaker 5: her he.
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  Speaker 3: Has a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: But he actually didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't.
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  Speaker 5: And then Cleo does a very movie villain move of.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, oh. an idea is forming in my brain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like basically says that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Let me get the smartest person at the circus involved.
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  Speaker 4: Let me get Hercules.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Let me get Hercules, the irrational maniac involved.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: Irrational maniac.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: Who punched a woman about 40 seconds ago.
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  Speaker 4: And laughs like this.
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  Speaker 1: He does.
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  Speaker 3: He does.
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  Speaker 2: So Cleo is like talking to Hercules. If I can
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  Speaker 2: get Hans to marry me, you know, she doesn't call
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: them little people, but she's like, little people's health is
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: not very strong. So then in this moment, and you
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: mentioned this also, Afad, why?
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: We love this stuff.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: We just love talking freaks.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: In this moment, I don't know. Maybe I fell for
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: this movie. I genuinely really like Hans.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Him and Frida did a very good job making you
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: like them.
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  Speaker 2: Especially Hans. And when she says, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You just sympathize with Hans.
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  Speaker 4: That's why. I do.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Hans.
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  Speaker 4: A beautiful woman that just like.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: He's pulling out his phone to buy Freaks right now.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Buy another copy.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to read, like, Pep said, like, if we
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: were Freaks characters, I would be Hans. I was a
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: big fan of that text. Because Hans is just, like,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: focused on love.
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: Hopeless romantic.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: He's a hopeless romantic. And then who was Ryan again? Ryan?
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: I think it was the guy with the knife, right?
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Prince Randian?
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think it did make you Prince Randian.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: No.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think it was.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Pep made himself Schlitzy.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: Was Ryan Madame?
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: I think it was the wagon.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Madame Tetralini? No, no, I have it here. I was
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: the Frenchman, the cop.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: I know everybody is waiting on bated breath to find out.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: But anyways.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: Who pressed play? But anyways.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I found it, I found it. Calf is Hans,
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  Speaker 2: hopeless romantic, blinded by beauty. Ryan is Frozo, just a
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: nice guy trying to make a buck. I'm glad I
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: found that. I'm glad I found that. Just a nice
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: guy trying to make a buck. Pepper Schlitzie, just chilling
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: with Madame Tetralini. What does that mean? So, but, but,
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  Speaker 2: so when she was like... That's the only thing you
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: call out is chilling with Madame Tetralini. So, but, when
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Cleo says....
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  Speaker 1: Hans is, like, little people's health is not strong.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, that's right. Little people die young all the time.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: So I really liked Hans, so I googled how old
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: was he when he died.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: He was 83.
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  Speaker 3: Almost the entire cast of the quote-unquote freaks outlived the
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: quote-unquote normal people in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, almost double.
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: I think Johnny Eck lived to, like, 82, and I
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: was like, what?
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: Did you read about how Johnny Eck.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: You're wiping tears away.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: Someone told him that he should audition to be a newscaster. Oh, yeah.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Because one of the.
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  Speaker 5: Guys who was on the interview of this documentary was like,
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  Speaker 5: Johnny actually was a very handsome man. And he goes,
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: I always felt bad because you would go to restaurants
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: or go to public.
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  Speaker 3: Places with him. And if people saw him sitting in
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: a chair, people would just approach him.
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  Speaker 5: And then when he would, you know, move, they would
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  Speaker 5: very sadly be repulsed by him.
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  Speaker 3: But he said, like, he honestly could have just, like, succeeded.
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  Speaker 3: But one thing I thought was incredible. So Johnny Ek
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  Speaker 3: had a twin brother. And they started in entertainment by
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: doing a magic show where they would do the sawed
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: man in half.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: And they did this thing where.
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  Speaker 2: That's genius.
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  Speaker 3: Johnny's brother would be, like, the guy in the audience
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  Speaker 3: being like, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: This is horseshit.
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  Speaker 5: He would get up, get in the box. The magician
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  Speaker 5: would saw it in half. When they were sawing, they
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: would switch Johnny out. Johnny's brother out with Johnny. And
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: they had a pair of pants on like a rope
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  Speaker 5: on the stage. So when he separated it, Johnny would
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: get up and be like, what did you do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What happened to my legs? People would like scream. They
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: said like people like almost had like full-blown heart attacks.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: It's like the prestige.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: And then like the legs would burst. I thought this
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  Speaker 3: was great. The legs would burst out of the coffin
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: and start running around the stage. And then he would
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: chase the legs and And be like, what the fuck
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  Speaker 3: is happening? And I'm like, in 1920-whatever?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would truly be like a witness.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Incredible idea.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: So Cleo decides, I've got to get Mary Han so
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I can get his inheritance. I've got to kill him
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: and get his inheritance and I'll split it with Hercules.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: So they have a wedding feast.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, so Hercules does nothing. I'm going to split it
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: He does zero. He schemes. He's a schemer, Ryan. He's
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: a schemer.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: So you'd say Hercules is the Joker of this movie? No,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: he's not.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Cleo poisons the champagne for Hans. And there's a sword swallower.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: So this is like kind of controversial. Cancel cuff. But
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I've never really thought of a sword swallower in a
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: So when I saw a sword swallower, I go, it's
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: a male.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, sword swallowers are just people
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: with no gag reflexes. That's like all it is really.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: You have no gag reflex and you just position your
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: throat so you can put a sword all the way down.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: It's like depth perception too.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: But....
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: People with no gag reflexes are really good for something
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: that I won't go into. So if you're a straight
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: male sword swallower, you're sort of wasting your gift.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Pip's face.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Not on this one.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Like, come on. Like, you owe it to the world
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: to start, you know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Isn't he doing everything he could do with this gift?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying you can, like, a really great thing
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: you have the ability to do.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: You're not doing it. It's like, what's the, there's nothing
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: worse than wasted talent? Isn't that like Good Will Hunting
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: or something?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: So, deleted scene. Sword Swaller approaches Hans.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I have an idea. I have an idea here.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think you need to do it on Hans.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying, like, I have an idea. He presented it.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a... There's a YouTube video of, who's, oh
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: my god, I'm drawing such a blank, who with Ricky
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Gervais and Stephen Merchant?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Carl Pilkington, yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's a YouTube of him and Ricky that, like,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: you should watch if you just search, like, Carl Pilkington,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Ricky Gervais YouTube, where it's just them shooting the shit for, like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: an hour, and Ricky's just giving him topics, but he knows,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: and he, I think he used the word freaks, he says, like, Carl,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: you're obsessed with freaks, right? And then So Carl's just
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: going through. He takes out a book, and Ricky goes, oh,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: he's got that book. And then he goes, so this
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: is sort of a book of, like, the 50 weirdest
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: things in the world. So then Ricky goes, the 50
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: weirdest things? Like, that's the book? But he's looking at
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: people that have, you know, genetic disorders. And then he's criticizing. So, like,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: there's a guy, and he's revealing all of them. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I go, like, nice top here. And then he'll take
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: his hand and go, like, but three legs. And then
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Ricky's trying so hard not to laugh, because it's like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I don't want to laugh at these people. But then
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Carl will go, like, but the thing, like, that bothers
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: me is, like, he, you know, he's a three-legged jungler.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: What's the point of that? And then Ricky's like, what's
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: the point of that? And he's like, what should he
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: have done, Carl? And he goes, like, I don't know, soccer?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Soccer!
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe a jogger? If he had three arms and he
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: was a jungler, that would make a whole lot of sense.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: But so there's, like, a whole bit of Carl doing that, of, like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: this is what people should do, so.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: At the wedding, everybody gets drunk, and then Pepper Ryan,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: do you want to describe how Cleo and Hercules act
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: at the wedding?
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: So they're like, she is very drunkenly calling herself sarcastically
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: his wife, and like, I'm so lucky to be with you.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: It's very implied that she's.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Throwing this at him. I've got him.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I wrote, I don't think Cleo's doing a good job
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: with this con job. No.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: No.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: No. And the saddest thing about this is they just
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: keep cutting back to Frida, who is just a wreck.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: And not a wreck because, like.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Very good acting by Frida.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: And, like, not a wreck because, like, oh, this woman
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: stole my man. More like, I just feel bad because
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: they think he's so stupid. They're throwing this in front
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: of his face. And then she makes a comment about, oh,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: my God, you're so drunk, you might kiss me or whatever.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Hercules kisses Cleo.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I will say, when this shot happened, I was like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: oh man, shit's about to go down. Yeah. Because Hans
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: looks fucking pissed when he turns around.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Well, if Shannon made out with somebody at my wedding reception,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I'd be pissed. Hercules? Well, if it was Hercules.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I'd be like if it was Joe. I get it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Just don't do it again, babe.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: I love that you were saying Frozo is clearly a
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: 1930s actor. Hercules clearly, this is the first movie where
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: they have sound that he's ever been in.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: It's like insane how like.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: He's like, ah!
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Is it my time to talk?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hercules sucked.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: So they kiss.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: He's very pissed off and she's like, he's just being drunk, whatever.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Frida's so devastated that her and Madame leave. Madame screams like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: you guys are monsters. Like, fuck you for doing this.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And Cleo calls Hans a green-eyed monster and laughs at him.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And then, so, like, Cleo and Hercules are, this is unfortunate,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Cleo and Hercules are being really mean to the freaks,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: and they're laughing hysterically, and the normal humans are laughing hysterically.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: The freaks all look sad, except Schlitzie's, like, loving it
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and laughing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Schlitzie's loving it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Schlitzie doesn't get it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Although they're not.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Totally, because the One of Us hasn't happened yet. It's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: about to happen. So they're not totally turned off, which
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I was a little confused by.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I thought maybe the One of Us thing was the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: final test because they knew where it was going.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But maybe I'm giving this movie too much credit.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: But should we get into it later? I'm like, how
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: much did this thing... like know itself where it's like
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: hey the whole time this group has kind of been
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: in control and this was kind of their way of
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: surfacing the bad and getting rid of it i don't
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: think this movie is smart enough or was smart enough
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: to do that um it's fair though um but i
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: just felt that way so Angelino gets up and is like,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: let's invite Cleopatra to join us and be part of this.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Well, first, who starts it?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: The chant?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Isn't it one of the little people?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Josephine Joseph!
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Josephine Joseph!
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Shout out.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Josephine Joseph uses her fork. I can't do it on
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: this table, but it starts like the beat of the
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: gobble gobble gobble gobble.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. One of us.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: One of us.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: We accept her. We accept her.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: One of us. One of us.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Gobble gobble.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Gobble gobble.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: We accept her. We accept her.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Gobble gobble.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Chance over, man.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. While that's happening, Angelina gets up. On the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: table with like a big chalice. And they're just like pouring.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: It's like an enormous champagne glass. Like a coupe glass. Yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a giant coupe glass.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he just like pours an entire bottle of champagne.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: And then is like having all.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: It also gets super dark in that cup too. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: don't know what else is in there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's in there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I will just say. So as they were doing this,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he pours the giant champagne glass. And then passes it
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: around the table. And they all drink from it. Ending
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: with Cleo. I wrote, she's not going to do it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I would not do it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: What was the big, big container?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Big container.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: That's literally what it is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Like, do you want to explain what that is?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even remember.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Was it a, was it a Schultz original? But it
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: was like, someone was saying that, oh, like, you know, like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: you'll be like, oh, have you ever played the game
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Fingers where everyone puts a finger on the glass and
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: then you say, well.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I forgot about Fingers. I love Fingers.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so if it was like me, Tim, and Ryan, Fingers,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: we each put a finger on the glass and then
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I say, one, two, three, two. And then you either
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: keep your finger or keep it on. So it was
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: in that realm of like, oh, have you ever played this?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And someone said, have you ever done Big Container? And
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I've never heard of it. And literally,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it's you fill a big bowl of booze, and then
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: everyone just chants Big Container while people are taking swigs.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: And I was like, that's not a game.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's not a game.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Don't die.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So she's not going to drink from it. I wouldn't
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: drink from the freak Big Container. I also wouldn't drink from...
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Normal people, big container.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: That's disgusting. But I was like, there's no way Cleo's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: going to do that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You want to be one of them. Well, you want
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to be one of them. In this scenario, I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you just got to bite the bullet. There are some,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: because I'm more of a germaphobe than either of you.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: What if, like, the bird lady's feathers were in it, like, floating?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: That would be a hard pass for me.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: But I think, like, I'm a germaphobe more than either
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of you, but sometimes you.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Just got to bite the bullet and realize... I just
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: need to risk germs in this scenario because there's no
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: way around it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You are also outnumbered completely.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to just do it, and that's what
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Cleo should have done. But this is the most famous
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: scene in the movie. This has been spoofed countlessly. It's
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: in a Ramones song, and most famously it was in
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: South Park. So what was the scene in South Park?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: While Ryan thinks of that, I was going to say,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to reference 12th and Wall Street.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking of.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Wolf of Wall Street 2.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: And then Simpsons has a classic scene I built, unless
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I'm misremembering.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: South Park is.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I can't remember it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to look it up.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Is it the camp?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think it's that heavy-handed.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: But it's so funny because every single... They do it
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in Wolf of Wall Street 2. Every single person.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Except my wife that asked what I was doing the
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: pod on And I said the 1932 movie Freaks. Did
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: not know of the movie, but then I said the
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Google gobbled One of Us, and they were like, oh.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Actually, my SEO is wrong. I wrote One of Us,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: and it came up with the Jonah Osborne song that
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I shared recently.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Jonah Osborne?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: What if God was one of us?
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: They played that at the end of this.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Just a slob, like they did.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: It's a stranger on a bus.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: So Cleo is absolutely not going to do it. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: then the glasses pass to her.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: She says no. And then I wrote the quote down
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: unless one of you wants to say it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: No?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: No, sorry.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: You dirty, slimy freaks. Freaks. Get out of here.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And then she throws the drink at all of them.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Mainly fucking Angelino.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets to him. Doesn't blink.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I like Angelino.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't blink.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: He's sort of like the quietly like the leader.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. definitely later too and.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Then Hercules is hammered he lifts Hans and puts him
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: on Cleo's shoulders and they both are laughing hysterically.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: At that point I wrote what is happening right.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Now I like what Hans says because she's like what
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: the hell like what are you saying like whatever get
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: up and say something and he's like I'm just ashamed
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: of you meaning like this is our place like you
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: are the embarrassing one not this situation is embarrassing.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: For you And then it cuts to, like, I thought
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it was the next morning, but it's just later that night?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she poured poison in his champagne glass at
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: the table.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: The whole night.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: It's like that night. Also, I was like, after your
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: wedding night, Hercules come back to your trailer with you?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Like, that's a little odd. Well, they were trying to apologize,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: being like, the kiss meant nothing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And also, the mocking of you. They say, oh, we
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: were just joking.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: We were drunk.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Also, a line we should note that Hercules says... when
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: they're doing the one of us chant. They're going to
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: make you one of them, my big duck.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a weird thing to call her, not knowing
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the end of this movie. And Han says, no, I
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: see it. I see what's going on. Han's the midget.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Han's the fool. And then he falls down because he's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: been poisoned. But it cuts to several of the freaks
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: are quietly watching them, and then it cuts to Prince
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Randian in the mud under a carriage, just.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Like watching them.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: See, I.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: That's why I was thinking, like, I took this as, like...
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: The movie's done a great job being, like, oh, like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: they are always in control.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yes. Like, they have eyes everywhere. Yes.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Their whole thing is making them, like, their own survival and, like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: making the circus keep going.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: So I felt like....
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: They almost, like, started this too late to be, like, oh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: they've always been in control.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying maybe they shouldn't show you, but... Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It's just... That was the first hint of, like, that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: But also... being a 1932 movie, it's almost like she
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: sees them and she's like, oh, and then does nothing
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: about it. Like, isn't this odd that they're all around me? Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Then they, so the freaks, I think, call a doctor.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And the doctor comes and says, Hans was poisoned but survived.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And I didn't understand this. Cleo said, oh, so should
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I have not have given him that mustard powder? And
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the doctor says, no, the mustard powder you gave him
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: saved his life.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I think it was meant to be like a cover
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: my tracks thing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she knew the jig was up.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Or also, like, she gets worried because when he passed out,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: or Hercules says, you gave him too much.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Well, the idea was to kill him, so what's too much?
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I was wondering if the plan was to be more
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: of a slower kill, not just like that night die,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: because that's too obvious.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: But, again, maybe we give the movie too much credit.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was also confused by that piece, because I
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: got it after the fact that now she gets to
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, I saved your life.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: But then if she's planning to kill him anyway, it
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: wouldn't matter.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: So the thing I like about the horror aspect about
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: this end of the movie, so Venus goes to Hercules
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and says, I know you poisoned Hans, and I'm going
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: to go to the cops.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: So great.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And Hercules says, you wouldn't snitch on your own.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you're not part of us.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: You're not one of us.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And Hercules grabs her violently, but then it cuts to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: all the freaks are watching.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: And you think that they're just these helpless, mentally deficient,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: idiots that are not going to be able to do
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: anything or have no like power over this situation and you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Will find out you were wrong he got.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: The message in that moment he did actually it's very true.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Good so hans is in his trailer um in bed
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and he apologizes to cleo and.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Cleo watching this and forgetting you know the ending i was.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Like no hans no i actually love what we're gonna
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: say something.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: No, I liked the next moment even after this where
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: after Venus has her showdown with Hercules, they have that
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: quiet moment where Hans is getting... I'm sorry, Hercules is
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: getting ready for the show and even Roscoe is like,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I can't talk to you.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And then Hercules knows, like, I'm fucking out. Like, I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: fucking out.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So, at this point, as Pep said, no Hans. He's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: still blinded by love. He's in bed. He's very sick.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: He's been slowly being poisoned by Cleo and Cleo, he
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: apologizes to Cleo. He's like, Cleo, I love you. And
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: then she turns the corner and pours out poison in
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: his medicine. And then he puts it in his mouth.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And I wrote, no, Hans, she's still poisoning him. And
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: then she was like, you rest up, Hans. And she
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: walks out of the wagon. And then Hans.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Spits out the poison medicine into a napkin. And I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: went like, oh!
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go, Hans! Let's go!
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a good one time the camera
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: moves the entire movie. They just zoom right in on
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: him doing it, being like, uh-oh.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And so the freaks are acting a little weird. They're
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: creeping around. And then Hans says, tonight we will do it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It is raining very bad now.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: That is such a great moment.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: What?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Explain.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Tonight we'll do it so when she leaves, Jeremy, the half-man,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: is walking by and staring right at her.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So I would be like, hey, Cleo, just run away.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It's clear as day. This is not going to go
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: well for you. Just run away. So Angelino comes in
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: and closes the door. They say nothing, and he just says, tonight.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Tonight.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And he just goes, come back to my wagon. That's
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: all they say. I'm like, what the fuck is this
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: going to be?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And this is what's so shocking. Because again, you're like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: these people are... If you're Hercules, you're not going to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: be intimidated by a little person who's three feet tall.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You know? And so it cuts back to now. Hans
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is still in bed. Cleo is still poisoning him. And
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: then Hans says, Cleo, give me the black bottle of poison.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And Cleo kind of freezes and is like, what?
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I also love how, like, it follows her.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Like, the camera follows her.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: And then they cut back, and you see that just
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Hans just got himself out of bed and is just
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: sitting up straight. And I'd be like, if I was her,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, jump out the fucking window of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: wagon right now.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Because he's been so sick, quote-unquote.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: She expects him to be.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: He's, like, bedridden, and he's sitting up totally fine. So she...
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And his two friends are there. Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: So she knows, like, I can overpower Hans.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: So Hans says, give me the black bottle of poison.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: So she's kind of, like, weighing her options. And she
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: looks over, and there's another little person in the corner...
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And he just casually pulls out a huge knife.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Starts licking it. Starts licking it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved when he licked it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And then No Legs comes in and pulls out a gun!
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Has a full gun.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, cleaning his gun was fucking amazing.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Amazing!
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: He takes a gun out and then he takes a
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: handkerchief and he's just cleaning the gun.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not pointing it at Cleo like, you're held up.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: He's just, hey, I'm just going to sit here and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: casually clean this gun. And then it cuts to... venus's
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: trailer because it's like a horrible rainstorm and they're they're
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: moving in transit so if there was a really loud
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: noise like maybe nobody would notice at the time so
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: what is what is hercules doing at this point to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: venus's um so stagecoach.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: He breaks out of his own stagecoach goes to hers
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: breaks through the window he's.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Going to kill her so keep in mind these are
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: like wagons moving along stagecoach Yeah, the stagecoach is moving
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: along and pouring rain, pitch dark out, and he's running
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: up to jump on the back of hers and kicking
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: out the boards.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: There's a moment.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Earlier where Frida is talking to Frozo and she says,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: I overheard Hercules saying, Venus knows too much.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: So she's like, I think Venus is in trouble.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: So Hercules is going to kill Venus.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Hercules gets in there, tries to get at her, She
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: yells for Frozo. Frozo comes in. I didn't understand how
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: this worked.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Like, they get into a... Hercules, like, fucks up Frozo.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you're fighting the circus strongman, so
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you're going to lose. But then he, like, tries to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: burn him on the stove.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: That's when I have it. I just go, whoa! Yeah.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It was so intense.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Just burning him on the stove.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: And then they get thrown out of the.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: No, theirs doesn't fall over.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Never mind.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: They get thrown out of the carriage, out of the wagon.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: And on the ground, he pretty much has Frozo dead
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: to rights.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: He's fully mounted.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: He's choking him up.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in the mud. He's fully mounted. He's just
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: going to easily kill Frozo.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: And then you see the little person who had the
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: knife with Cleo just throw it into his back.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: He was credited as the knife-throwing little person. Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So he gets stabbed.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: He gets stabbed, yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And this is my favorite horror moment of the movie,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: because this is truly terrifying.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: So Hercules.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: This makes it a horror movie.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: But this is where you catch the ticket in, yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It's at night, it's raining, they're in the mud. Hercules
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: is just stabbed, so he's disabled.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: He's, like, backpedaling in the mud under the wagon. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: he looks around, and there's, like, a dozen freaks of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: little people.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: pinheads it was very.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Well done where it was flashes of lightning so you'd
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: get like a very clear shot of like oh there's
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: like 20 of them.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah because you wouldn't you're exactly right pep i forgot
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to mention that there'd be a flash of lightning you
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: see all of them and they all have knives and
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: they're all just closing in on hercules.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Even ryan's favorite prince randian.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Prince randian has a knife in his mouth he's coming
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: over what is he gonna do with that um that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: could back he lit a cigarette pretty easily And this
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: was edited out of the film, but in the OG
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: cut of the film, they cut Hercules' balls off.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, he was originally shown at the ending.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll talk about that later.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Is this true?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. In the original cut of the film, they
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: don't show it. Yeah, they were going to show none
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: of it. But in the original cut of the film,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: they close in on him, and it's indicated that they
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: cut his balls off. And at the end of the film,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Hercules is shown... singing, and this footage is lost forever.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, I thought they didn't even
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: know what was on that footage, but so they know.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They know, it was lost forever.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Hercules is singing in an extremely high-pitched voice at the circus,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and the indication he's now a castrated singer, a castrato.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I love, there's a part of the documentary that's about
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: the endings, and it's about how, like, They would, like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: test the endings and how audiences reacted, and I thought
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: this was hilarious. It's like, we originally ended like this,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: and people didn't like it. I was like, what do
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: you mean, didn't like it now? Like, what does that mean?
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: And then they did this, and it was just not
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: long enough. Then they did this, and it was too happy.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: And I was like, this is insane.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So what's going on with Cleo, she's now being chased
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in the woods, screaming, being chased by the freaks.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, her wagon tipped over. That was a classic. Like,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: you can tell this movie's from 1932.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: It's, like, sped up. It's sped up to make it
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: look worse than it was.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: It looks really bad. Yes.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: And the wagon tips over. She kind of gets, like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: launched out. And then, or no, she kind of, like,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: just climbs out. And then they're all, yeah, Johnny Eck is, like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: in the charge of coming hot.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And she's just screaming in the woods, and they cut away.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: In the original cut, it cuts away before they even, like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: get to her. But in the original cut, I guess
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: it was more graphic, but then... surrounding her and attacking her,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but they don't show anything. But it cuts away, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: then it goes back to the beginning of the film,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: where the carnival barker is saying, like, look inside this
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: animal pen, and you will see the most horrifying thing
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you've ever seen. And then the big, like, horrifying reveal
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of the movie, Pep, do you want to describe Cleo?
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's clearly Cleo, it's clearly her face,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: but her body is that of a bird particularly like
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: a duck yeah particularly a duck's body but very large
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: and uh yeah she's kind of going like also missing.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: An eye yeah they cut her eye out so it's
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: kind of indicated what do they do exactly they cut
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: her they cut her legs off they cut her eye
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: out and they somehow made her.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Into a duck no they like in that situation like
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: think of that scenario like they cut her legs off
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and they were able to get her to survive like
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: it's just so like they made her.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah brian.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Han's just like, get the duck machine.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Get the duck machine!
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: But it's just like, they do such a... I get, like, again,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I think we're balancing between, like, are we giving them
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: too much credit or not enough? But, like, they do.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: It's so much better that, like, you just never see
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: beyond a certain point where, like, okay, the moment when, like,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: the freaks attack Hercules, like, it's truly, like, a terrifying moment.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: But also, hey, the truly monstrous human is getting what's
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: coming to them. So of course they're going to meet
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: him on that level. And then the soulless maniac who
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: caused all this stuff, she gets the worst fate of all.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: But you don't see what they do to her because
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: if they did show that to you, you'd probably be like, well,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I hate the freaks because the quote-unquote normal-looking humans get
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: mangled by them.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: They make people into freaks and that's not fair. Now
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: she is one of us.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Andy's like slamming, going like, when are they going to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: reference the lobster?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. But do you think, so obviously, like, in 1932,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: this ending packed a wallop of, like, this is, like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: solo level. Oh, my God.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: I just picture it like, so, what'd you think, darling?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Coming out of it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I think this still packed a punch.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, like, gross.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: When I saw her quacking, and I still don't really
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: understand what it did.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: It was a little too weird for me.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Fair? I'm like... I'm like good like this is how
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: this should end yeah fuck her like honestly I would
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: have liked if.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: It was like her top and Hercules top like stitched
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: together and they were somehow.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Also like surviving it kind of was just really them
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: cementing their whole point I guess of the whole thing
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: too of like.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Now you didn't want to be one of us now
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you are one of us yeah you're not above us.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: No one is you're now the main maybe they made
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: her too popular though she might be like the main draw.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Now I the movie did not end here for me
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: did it end here for you No.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, did it end here for you?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: It did not.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a historical note from Wikipedia. While
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: some versions ended on Cleopatra becoming the human duck, other
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: ended showing Hans now living in a mansion from his inheritance,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: still humiliated, visited by Froso, Venus, and Frida. So you
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: could tell, like, I would say that the quality of
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: this movie, like the audio and the visual, were really good,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I would say.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I had no problem with it, but this scene was bad.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Rough.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: The visual was bad.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You could barely see what's happening. You could tell.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: This was like hard surviving footage.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: And this was like film that was stored somewhere else
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: that was not. Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: You could barely make out faces. It doesn't look great.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Oh there's a lot of water on this.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Seriously. Basically like I don't know. Pat do you want
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to describe what happens at like the last scene in
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the mansion?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah I mean what I recollect he basically is still
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: just like I don't want visitors. I don't want to
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: be seen. I just want to be like, I want to,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm disgraced. And Frida, uh, his, I mean,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: I imagine.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Ex-wife, um, ex-fiance, ex-fiance.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: They never got married.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Uh, that's right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So she's sister in real life.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: She's basically, uh, say like, she's just saying like, we,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: you don't have to like live in this complete disgrace. Right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: But he has such an inheritance that he bought like
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: a Rockefeller esque Multi-million dollar mansion. Why was he traveling
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: with the freak show?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I think... I think he just got it, right?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I think also, like... One more show.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: My thinking maybe is, like, he had just gotten it,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: but also, like, I am... Again, we're giving away too
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: much credit. I am accepted here. I am not going
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: to be accepted there.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's just not going to be the case.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: But I think this is so dumb. This is not
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: the original cut. They added this in after the fact,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: as we already said. It's so dumb that this is
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: such a great, powerful ending. And again, like Nightmare Alley,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: like to have that big wallop of an ending of
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: this show or The Human Duck and the audience is
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: so horrified and then you, after the fact, add in
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: like a happy ending. It's like, you just ruined everything
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: that happened.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But I'm not shocked they do that though.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: No.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Because when the documentary talks about each ending, they play
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: it out for you. And I was like, man, Herd's
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: ending with the duck just packs so much more punch.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yes. It packs more punch. But I get, the Todd
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Browning was like, I really want to show their humanity.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: And if we end it with, hey, see how scary
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: they were? You guys were right the entire time. You
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: should have been scared of these people.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I think you're giving too much credit. I think the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: studio made them put this ending in to make it happy.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I just think, because the original, this was shot,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: so I think of like.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I almost feel like when we saw it in class,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: like it would end up on the dock.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: You could be right.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: That was like, That very much stuck in my brain,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: and I just didn't remember, but that's also maybe a
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: sign that the ending shouldn't.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Have been added, so.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: There also was a, there was, like, three different versions
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of the ending, and it was the ones we talked about,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: and then there was another one that was written that
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: never shot, that they wanted to be, like, let's just
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: truly show, like, the full recycle of, like, she's part
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: of the group now, she has a whole dynamic with them, like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: She has this whole second life as the duck woman.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: But they were like.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Why would they want to make her sympathetic?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: And the idea is, like, this whole situation broke her.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, this movie... Again, we keep balancing between this. But, like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: they made her so villainous. Like, there's not one redeeming
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: quality about her at all.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: You'd find it harder to believe. But then again, they're like, well,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: they just mangled her so horribly. She has no choice.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: But....
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, the ending of just showing her as
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the duck does all that for you in one moment.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: So the ending of them at the mansion where Frida
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: embraces Hans and they're basically like, let's get back together
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and get married. And then they go, okay. And then
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they embrace. And then it says, the end in cursive.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And I out loud watching it went, okay?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Did you watch Freaks 2?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: No, there's not Freaks 2. Is there Freaks 2?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: There's one called She Freak. That's what I saw.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But is it related to Freaks 2?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: It's meant to be a sequel, but it's not great
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: from what I've heard. It has minimal or nothing. It's
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: in the Freaks universe?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: The Freaks cinematic universe?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: FCU?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: No, Legacy. There's nothing about a sequel in here.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Search SheFreaks.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Well, SheFreaks is not.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Search Ice Spiders.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Freaks 2.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I got excited and said there was going to be
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: a Freaks 2 coming out in 2026 and again it
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: was the fucking 2018 Freaks.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Fucking Zach Lepofsky and Adam Steen the people who made
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Freaks 1 the other Freaks that we're talking about the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: science fiction film. But yeah that's the movie for you
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: folks and that's ending October for us. It's the end
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: of the Halloween podcast series.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: What an end.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: What an end.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Hans.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Let's have a round of.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Hans.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so....
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Freak's advice.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I would say.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Ryan doesn't know.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I would say there's a difference between judging a subculture
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: and crossing a subculture. I don't think.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: First of all, it's not.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Really a subculture because they have physical disabilities.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you can laugh at the ICP kids in
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: the mall. You can laugh at them. You can make
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: fun of them to their face. But you don't want
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to be alone in the woods with them making fun
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: of them to their face, right? So you've got to
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: be really careful about crossing a subculture and thinking that, oh,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: these guys are pathetic losers and they can't touch me.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: That is not true.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: And you end up at the gathering.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: You end up at the gathering and then you are
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: torn to pieces.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Buy Juggalos.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: So don't end up torn to pieces by Juggalos is
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: my freak's advice.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Pep? Ryan, you go.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Buy things you haven't seen before, if not twice, because
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: you never know you're going to need them or you
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: end up paying $ 90 for them when streaming.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, also my freak's advice is see Freaks in public
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: domain January 2028. For free.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Get excited for the first Cuff's Basement movie. Tim sent
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: us this outline for the sequel that we're making. Very excited.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the prequel, Freak's Origins. So get ready.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Freak's Origins, Rise of Schlitzy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: We're so excited.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Schlitzie, this isn't advice. Well, advice, go search Reddit Schlitzie,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: because there was a happy 125th birthday, and I was
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: just talking to Kup about wishing people birthdays that are
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: already past.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: That are long dead.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, happy 125th birthday, and then there's people commenting like, oh,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: happy birthday, my sweet Schlitzie, and I was like, who
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: the fuck are these people?
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I'm glad Schlitzie's reading that somewhere.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: This expression is kind of cliched now, but It was
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: like 10 years ago and I had never heard it before.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: There was like a porn star that had posted a
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: bikini picture on Instagram and somebody had commented on it like,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: oh my sweet beautiful Nikki, you are a goddess, you
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: are so beautiful, I love you. And then somebody responded
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: to that, go touch grass. And I was like, yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: what are we doing here guys? Get back to reality.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Go watch Freaks.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my Freaks advice would just be, if you see
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: movies from the 1930s, don't judge it before you watch it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Check out Freaks.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: What's your second favorite movie from the 1930s? I can't
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: think of a single movie from the 1930s. Oh, you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: know what we should do is The Cabinet of Dr.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Caligari.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: We could do that.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Me and Pep saw Caligari as well.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? What did you think of that?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Not good.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty boring.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I don't really.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Myself included.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty boring. I mean, in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: somnambulist genre, it's probably like two for me.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: What is that? The Somnambulist.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Somnambulism?
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Never heard of that. What is that?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: That's what The Cabinet of Dr.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Caligari is about, but somnambulist. The definition of this word
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: is a person who walks, eats, or performs complex motor
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: acts while asleep. That is what Caligari is about.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: That's, like, considered the first popular mainstream horror film, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it came out in 1920. It is over 100 years old.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: But the funny thing is, there's a lot of, like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: 1910s 1920s like silent movies that are like more like
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: i thought call of gary even though it's very short
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: was i'm like okay this is fine but then this
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: like dance macabre there's like the original sleepy hollow that
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: are just like at.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Least visually interesting you know like they look something different.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah um i never saw the original dracula but.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: You've not seen the original king kong that's 33 i
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: have not seen the original okay is that a horror
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: movie really it's like an action movie i feel like
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: godzilla and king kong are kind of like extraneous to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: horror it's a monster movie it's like it's like a
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: hybrid of an action movie and a horror.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Movie yeah exactly it's very mummy so it wouldn't.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Say it's a car the mummy's horror.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: But like the mummy like the brendan fraser one like
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: it has horror elements.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Oh no not the brendan fraser one but i meant
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the old school one like creature from the definitely yeah
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: like the creature from the black wolf man.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Dracula universal monsters have you seen any of those by
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Dear og ones yeah I think so, but, like, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: don't remember.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I've seen, I think I've seen, I watched Creatures of
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: the La Baca Greenland, like, last year.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: There's no way they're good.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: The brilliance of them, like this, they're, like, 63 minutes,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: 70 minutes.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: I think, like, I think with the 1910s, 1920s silent films,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: it's tough for me because, like, sound's a big thing
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: for me in movies.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you can go on YouTube and find how people
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: put their own soundtracks on them. That's pretty cool.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: It's the opposite of.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Music by Evanescence on Cabinet of Caligari. Exactly.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: It's the opposite of that movie. That was just a
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: blue screen that you hated.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, the podcast that Ryan called a movie?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Sometimes Ryan gets too cute.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You were warned about that, though. I made a pic
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: and you made fun of my pics. I said, now
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I'm doing this.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Mark liked it.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he, well, what does that mean?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like Pep and I were talking, like Pep,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: so Andy Junova, like, I don't agree when you criticize Ryan,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: but his top.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: His movie, his list.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Top 10 movies.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: His list of top 10.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Movies of all time in his personal opinion was really
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: stupid and like.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: You were right to call him out.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: And I said to Andy that Pep texted me, so
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Ryan thinks the stranger is a better movie than Jurassic Park.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: There's no way that's true. And then Pep goes, Ryan
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't think that. And I was like, thank you. Ryan
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't think that. No, but that doesn't make any sense.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Ryan doesn't think it's strange.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: You don't even think that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: If we did favorites of all time, what would we do?
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Would Freaks make it now?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: No!
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: No!
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: If it was remade now.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I would do like Grandma's Boy now. I would do
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: so many.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: We're not ever doing that again.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: But that's it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Did we do advice?
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, we did actually.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I think my real advice.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, wait. We didn't get to Bruce crawling out of
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: the hole yet, did we?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: No, that's Dark Knight Rises.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Pep.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say my real advice would
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: be there's no topic not worth doing a podcast with
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Coffin Ryan.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: That's very true.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: My advice is have Pep on more podcasts.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: We were texting recently. I know it's the funniest thing.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I cannot believe I haven't been on a pod in
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: over two years.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: That's wild. We were saying we've done a lot of stuff.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot else we can really do. And
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: then we were like, oh yeah, there's actually one. Also,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I would really redo the Jurassic Park episode. I think
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: that one has a lot on the table that we
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: left off.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Well, so we were talking about, well, sorry, Pep, you
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: were going to say something.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say that comment of we're
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: running out of things to do reminded me of R.I.P.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Mary when your ex said that, like, aren't, like, how
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: is there still new movies? Like, aren't they going to
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: run out of ideas? And you were just so angered
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: by that comment.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: It's just a really dumb thing to say. And we
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: didn't make it, but what... That was it. There's so
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: much to make movies about today. Oh, yeah, we were
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: talking about Back to School Month, and we were like,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: what can we do for next year for Back to
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: School Month? And I said, Billy Madison, The Rules of Attraction,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: which I wanted to do The Rules of Attraction, but
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: now it's not really good timing with what's going on
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: in the news for The Rules of Attraction with Cornell,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: so we can't really do that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe T.O.P. Yeah. T.O.P. But in.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, you know what would be
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a great Back to School movie?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: It would be Rushmore. And then I was like... We
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: didn't do Rushmore as a pod, and then I searched
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: it in Spotify, Cuff's Basement Rushmore, and we did it
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: in 2018.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was the second episode we ever did.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: We did it in your kitchen in Charleston.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I forgot to mention, you're like, this is, I think
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: we're five, oh my god, I don't know what's in
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: the can right now, but this might be released as
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the 669th episode. It's pretty close. Wow. You were on
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: like 664 when I looked.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like 500 to 600 went really fast, and
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: 600 to 700 has not been going fast.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: You definitely do. I feel like you do way more consistently,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: like weekly, over the past few years than when we started.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I think we do way less in my opinion.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like, well, when we started, started. We do
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: it more than when we started, started.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I feel like you do it like once a month.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like in COVID, we were doing it all
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, every day. And then now it's been,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like recently especially, it's been bad, where it's been like, well, bad.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: it's been like 10 days in between episodes sometimes, which
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: we never normally did, but it's, uh, I mean, Andy
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: really fucked us when he canceled the, um, uh, the
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Bosworth pod.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: What is it called?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Stone Cold, baby.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: We were going to do it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And then, um, Joe, I.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Was thinking, you know what? I was honestly thinking of
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: the Stone Cold pod, like this week in like watching
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: the freaks and preparing for this podcast. I was just like,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Stone Cold seemed like such a blast, and we're talking
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: about Schlitzy and Hans.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Freaks. So, yeah, like, Andy... So we were going to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: do the Stone Cold pod in August, and then Andy said...
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Or not August. June. And then Andy said, at the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: very last minute, I have to cancel and reschedule. And
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: we were like, fine. And I wasn't going to say
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: anything to Andy, but I was like, oh, that kind
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: of fucks up my plan, because all of July was
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: going to be Batman, but, like, this isn't a real podcast,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and nobody listens to it, so who cares? And then Joe,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of course, said... Well, it's not really Blockbuster Month if, like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: it wasn't July. Like, it was July and August, and
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: also you started with Stone Cold. And then that's when
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I responded, like, Andy fucked it up.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: It was Andy's fault.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Joe is Bible, as usual. Yeah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: But, well, Pep, thank you so much for coming on.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: It's so great to see you again.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: And everybody was like, you were on such a great run.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: You did Batman, then you did. Breakfast Club, and then
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: you did Angus, and then now we're ruining it with
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Halloween Month.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Which is actually kind of perfect. I think it's kind
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: of perfect.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, everybody stops listening in June, so.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: It's very true, yeah. Especially after, yeah, Batman.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Well, I feel like maybe your first, like, three or four,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: however many you did before this one will be bad,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: but then once they see Freaks.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: The numbers on Freaks are going to be. Eat our dust, Ben.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to hop into some of those Schlitzy Reddit
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: posts and just post a link to this pod. You
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: guys are good.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Finally, the final word on Freaks.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Didn't talk about Schlitzy enough.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: But we should say thank you to everybody who reached
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: out about Angus. I'm so glad that movie got that response.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I love Angus so much.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: So Hurley, Sean, Andy, Joe, and then Bridget texted me,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to Angus and I'm not going to finish
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: it because I'm really bummed out. And I go, no,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: you have to finish it. You have to finish it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Also, watch it, people. Please watch it.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: And then Bridget texted me, I am so sorry. Because
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: remember I said that Bridget made fun of Angus when
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I was a kid?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: And then she was– and I was like– I said,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I'll never forgive you like as a joke. And then
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: she said, I'm also crying now listening to the Angus pod.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And I said– and then Megan responded, I'm listening to
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: the Angus pod. I just started. And Bridget goes, it's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: really sad. And I said, it's not sad. Like the
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: ending is great.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: The ending is wonderful.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: But it's a tough ride.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: It's now available for rent on YouTube.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I watched it.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, I thought it was like a newly thing. No, no.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I had the DVD, but I watched it on YouTube
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: because Shannon was using the TV and I just didn't
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: want to bother fighting.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: So I think even Freaks 1932 was on YouTube to rent,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: but yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: That's where I watched it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: The key with YouTube is YouTube is the only streaming
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: service where you can control the playback speed fully. You
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: can do. 5 all the way up to three times.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: This movie is 64 minutes. Did you watch?
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Parts of it I did.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Why do we do this? Parts of it I did.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Eric listens to this at one and a half speed.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Let me guess, when the children were playing in the woods,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: he popped it up to two?
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. Actually, that part was a full, like, let me.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Wait, Pat, wait, I have a comment. They're not children,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: they're monsters!
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: They're not children, they're monsters! To their face.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Happy Halloween. We're moving on to November.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: And you're welcome.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Love you. Happy Thanksgiving.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, also, one last piece of advice.