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I told my cousin to STOP eating my cakes... and it started a family uproar! -r/AmITheAsshole | Reddit Stories | EP3072 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: I told my cousin to stop eating my cakes, and
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  Speaker 1: it started a family uproar. She's hungry. I bake a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite hobbies, and my family meets
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  Speaker 1: up most Saturdays at my grandmother's house.
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  Speaker 4: We live pretty close, and we've had this routine for years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's usually me, my dad, my gran and my granddad,
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  Speaker 1: my auntie and my two cousins. The cousin in question
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  Speaker 1: is 22 male. It's become customary that every weekend when
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  Speaker 1: we go over, I bring some of my baking along.
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  Speaker 1: It can be a full cake, a tray bake, cupcakes, etc.
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  Speaker 1: If any is left over, then either my gran will
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  Speaker 1: keep it or my dad will take it home and
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  Speaker 1: dish it out at work.
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  Speaker 4: No big deal.
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  Speaker 1: The problem I have with my cousin is that no
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  Speaker 1: matter when I offer him my baking, he will eat
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  Speaker 1: some of it and then I recently discovered that he
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  Speaker 1: will just bin the rest. Not because he doesn't like it.
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  Speaker 1: He'll just say, I'm full or I've had enough. Okay, then.
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  Speaker 1: So this goes on for a few weeks, and I
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  Speaker 1: keep seeing that he'll throw half of it away, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is pretty dang rude.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's extremely rude.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just save it for later, dude.
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  Speaker 6: Or give it to me.
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  Speaker 4: Or stop wasting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just take a smaller piece. Yeah, take a small slice. What?
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  Speaker 7: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So I go up to him and say, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: cutting slices too big or if the portion is too
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  Speaker 1: big for him, why doesn't he cut it himself? So
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  Speaker 1: I start bringing the cakes and tray bakes, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: in whole and offer a knife around to everyone so
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  Speaker 1: they can cut as much as they want. So he
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  Speaker 1: will cut the size proportion he wants. And then I
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  Speaker 1: opened the bin last week. and still discover about half
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  Speaker 1: a slice of flapjack in the bin. For the record,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any kind of eating disorder, any kind
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  Speaker 1: of intolerances, and has always been the kind of person,
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  Speaker 1: if we ever eat out, to just eat what he
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  Speaker 1: wants and leave the rest. The idea of leftovers seems
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  Speaker 1: to be a foreign concept to him. By the way,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Cakes. Keon.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, and we're here to talk about some stuff, give
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  Speaker 1: some advice, but we don't have all of the answers
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  Speaker 1: that you may seek. We will only tell you what
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  Speaker 1: we know. Take it with a grain of salt. And
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  Speaker 1: then you're going to tell us what you know in
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  Speaker 1: the comments. Please. And I'm going to take that with
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  Speaker 1: a grain of salt as well.
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  Speaker 6: Or a grain of sugar.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh.
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  Speaker 4: Please.
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  Speaker 1: Get it? Cakes, sugar, baking, yum, vegetable oil. Please tell us.
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  Speaker 1: I confronted him about it and texted words the effect of,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really disrespectful of you to waste food
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that I'm offering you to cut.
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  Speaker 4: As much as you want.
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  Speaker 1: And you also have the option to just not have
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  Speaker 1: anything at all. I don't want you eating my baking anymore.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of the family enjoys it, but you obviously
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  Speaker 1: don't respect the work that goes into my baking. So
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  Speaker 1: from now on, I'm not going to let you have any.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks. That's kind of hard. That was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: That's very hard.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly would have just given it really small slices.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just would have been like, or like share it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As of writing this, it's Monday now and there is
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  Speaker 1: still discourse going on about it. My aunt, his mother particularly.
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  Speaker 1: is saying it is really unfair of me to say that,
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  Speaker 1: that it will make things very awkward for him being
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  Speaker 1: over at weekends because he will be left out. I
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  Speaker 1: explained the situation to her and how I felt disrespected,
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  Speaker 1: not to mention a bit offended at his attitude to
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  Speaker 1: food waste, so then suggested that I just stop bringing
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  Speaker 1: my baking over at all. This has caused an uproar
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  Speaker 1: with my family saying that they love my baking. They
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  Speaker 1: enjoy having it over morning coffee, but it's unfair just
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  Speaker 1: to leave one person out, etc, etc. And it's all
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  Speaker 1: the biggest load of nonsense over nothing.
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  Speaker 4: It really is. Basically, my cousin wastes food I make
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  Speaker 4: for him. I don't like it. And so I said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want him wasting it again. Family is mad.
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  Speaker 1: Because they want their cake. and to eat it too, literally.
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  Speaker 1: Am I the a-hole here? Or is this just being
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  Speaker 1: blown as out of proportion as I think it is?
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  Speaker 8: I don't think you owe your baking to anyone. I
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  Speaker 8: don't think, if you don't want to give it to anyone,
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  Speaker 8: like if you don't want to give it to someone,
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  Speaker 8: then don't give it to them.
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  Speaker 4: That's, you made that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit dramatic of everyone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I just, I don't know if I would,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, hmm.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like I would just stop giving that person
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  Speaker 8: something or just like little tiny thing or ask him
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  Speaker 8: why he's not eating all of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Or just not give it to him and not say anything.
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  Speaker 6: Just stop giving it to him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say anything. I would
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  Speaker 1: just be like, you know, just.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think confronting him in, I mean, maybe not
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  Speaker 6: as intense, but just like, hey.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Why are you eating my food?
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  Speaker 6: Why are you throwing it away? Like, stop taking so much.
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  Speaker 6: Do we not know how proportions work?
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  Speaker 1: I would probably do it that way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I would need to do it
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  Speaker 4: so seriously.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Just being like, hey, stop eating. Stop taking so much.
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  Speaker 1: I would just be like, hey, when you're done, give
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  Speaker 1: it to me. I'll eat it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go.
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  Speaker 6: Why are we wasting food kind of thing?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think I would just call him out in a
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  Speaker 4: more casual way.
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  Speaker 6: And then if they stop, great. If they keep doing it,
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  Speaker 6: then I'd be like, all right, no more for you.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Stop wasting my food.
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  Speaker 6: Or I'm cutting it for you and I'm giving you
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  Speaker 6: little pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Every time you don't eat all of it, I have that.
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  Speaker 6: I have it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There is an edit with some info here. I started
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  Speaker 1: letting him cut his own portion size weeks ago. This
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  Speaker 1: is not a one-time reaction. This is my reaction to
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  Speaker 1: my cakes and bakes being repeatedly thrown in the bin
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  Speaker 1: despite the Him cutting his own portion. He is under
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  Speaker 1: no obligation to take any and never has been. If
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  Speaker 1: he wants a mouthful only, he is free to take
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  Speaker 1: a teaspoon. If he didn't want to eat my baking anymore,
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  Speaker 1: I would be fine with that. It's the cutting his
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  Speaker 1: own portion and still insisting on cutting too much for
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  Speaker 1: himself and then resorting to throwing it away that prompted
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  Speaker 1: my reaction.
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  Speaker 6: I would just go, okay, see, you're done with it.
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  Speaker 6: Tin foil. Boom.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Put in the fridge.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to show you some magic. Okay. It's still
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  Speaker 4: there for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: I do not care if he doesn't like my baking.
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  Speaker 1: I do, however, care about waste. I am not digging
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  Speaker 1: through the trash. It's a foot pedal bin. You can
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  Speaker 1: quite clearly see inside when you open it to throw
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  Speaker 1: away other things. Oh, and that's it.
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  Speaker 4: And there we go. Well, I mean, I understand getting offended. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But also.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like art.
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  Speaker 1: Not everyone's going to like it. It's subjective. People like,
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  Speaker 1: but he does like it.
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  Speaker 4: He does like it.
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  Speaker 1: He does like it.
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  Speaker 4: Not to finish it all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not to finish it all.
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  Speaker 6: Don't waste the food.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's annoying, but also.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think we could call him out in a little
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  Speaker 4: bit less dramatic way.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Because he's your cousin or something. Nephew. Be something to you.
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  Speaker 4: It's cousin. Just be like, dude, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, knock it off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
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  Speaker 9: My brother's girlfriend stole my dirty laundry, so I set
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  Speaker 9: a trap.
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  Speaker 4: Freak, that's mine.
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  Speaker 8: When I was younger, my brother had a girlfriend who
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  Speaker 8: would steal my dirty underwear and wear them without washing.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what, what, what, what, what, what? Vomit, ew, yucky.
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  Speaker 8: I had a suspicion when my clothes were disappearing. Shirts, pants, bras,
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  Speaker 8: and then underwear. I've asked her to stop taking my
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  Speaker 8: clothes previously before knowing about my underwear being part of
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  Speaker 8: the deal. It was confirmed when I saw my underwear
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  Speaker 8: that I had just discarded it into the dirty laundry
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  Speaker 8: basket an hour prior and she bent over. When she
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  Speaker 8: bent over, her pants had fallen a bit, enough for
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  Speaker 8: me to see my own underwear.
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  Speaker 4: That's disgusting.
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  Speaker 6: That's foul.
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  Speaker 4: That's disgusting.
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  Speaker 6: That's foul.
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  Speaker 7: Ew.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you underwear?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 8: For some context, growing up, I was the one doing
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  Speaker 8: everyone's laundry. We would have a laundry basket in the
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  Speaker 8: bathroom for dirty clothes. I would sort, wash, hang up,
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  Speaker 8: take down, and fold everyone's clothes before taking them to
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  Speaker 8: everyone's rooms.
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  Speaker 4: Weird in its own right, if you ask.
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  Speaker 8: Me, but I digress. There was six adults and two
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  Speaker 8: young people, including me being younger. After seeing my dirty
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  Speaker 8: underwear on her butt, I couldn't believe it. I thought
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  Speaker 8: maybe she had a pair like mine, a variety pack
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  Speaker 8: from Walmart or something. But I realized I'd only seen
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  Speaker 8: mine while doing the laundry. I didn't want to ask
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  Speaker 8: her outright because in the off chance that I was wrong,
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  Speaker 8: it would be a weird accusation. Plus, I've always been shy,
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  Speaker 8: but more so when I was a teenager.
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  Speaker 4: It's even worse. She's stealing dirty underwear from a teenager.
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  Speaker 4: That's gross. That's gross. That's gross.
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  Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from this inspection. And if
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  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
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  Speaker 8: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
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  Speaker 8: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do.
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  Speaker 8: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
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  Speaker 4: And Opie says.
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  Speaker 8: So I tested the theory. I took a picture of
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  Speaker 8: the next pair of underwear that I took off, sitting
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  Speaker 8: on top of the laundry pile, took my shower, and
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  Speaker 8: checked back about.
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  Speaker 4: An hour later.
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  Speaker 1: They were gone.
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  Speaker 2: Ew!
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  Speaker 4: That's freaky. I do not want that. I would feel.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, what if I have a disease? I
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  Speaker 4: would feel unsafe. I would feel very unsafe.
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  Speaker 8: I checked everywhere in the bathroom. When she and my
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  Speaker 8: brother left to go to the store, I went to
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  Speaker 8: see if they were anywhere in the room.
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  Speaker 4: Nope, gone.
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  Speaker 8: When they came back, I was helping with groceries. She
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  Speaker 8: bent down to pick up a bag, and there on
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  Speaker 8: her butt were my test underwear.
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  Speaker 1: That's just nasty.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Also, why is she wearing so many low-rise?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, also, get a belt.
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  Speaker 4: Also, get a freaking belt.
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  Speaker 8: Pull up your pants, you sleazebag. At this point, I
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  Speaker 8: asked her if she was wearing my underwear. She denied it.
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  Speaker 8: I told her I knew those were mine. and she
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  Speaker 8: tried to say I must have put them in her
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  Speaker 8: clean clothes pile by mistake. I told her that they
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  Speaker 8: hadn't been washed yet, because I just took them off
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  Speaker 8: today and left them in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 4: I showed the picture. She left the room crying.
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  Speaker 1: Dang. Dang.
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  Speaker 8: I called afterward to stop taking my clothes. After this,
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  Speaker 8: I started keeping my dirty laundry in my room. Soon after,
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  Speaker 8: I noticed that my clothes started disappearing again. Turns out
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  Speaker 8: she would go into my room when I'm at school.
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  Speaker 8: I confirmed this by just opening the door to the
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  Speaker 8: room when they left and found my clothes scattered across it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm asking my brother. Hey, tell your girlfriend
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  Speaker 4: to stop stealing my clothes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
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  Speaker 4: And it's also the fact that they're all like dirty clothes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: None of them are like clean. And why doesn't she
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  Speaker 4: just ask if she needs something?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Just be like, hey, can I borrow like a hoodie
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  Speaker 4: or something?
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  Speaker 6: This is foul.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gross.
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  Speaker 8: At this point, I've had enough. So on to my confession.
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  Speaker 8: The next time I was hanging laundry, I noticed a cactus.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't know what. No, I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. But a cactus underwear? No. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I'm scared.
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  Speaker 8: That we head out back near the clothesline. I thought
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  Speaker 8: of the pair of underwear I confronted her about with
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  Speaker 8: the picture. I couldn't bring myself to wear them even
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  Speaker 8: after I washed them. I thought to myself, it won't
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  Speaker 8: be any harm as long as she doesn't wear them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, P.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, P, you know she gonna wear them. Oh, this
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  Speaker 8: is the worst way to handle this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's.
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  Speaker 4: Are you just gonna, like, put it on display? Are
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  Speaker 4: you gonna... Give it to the cactus?
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  Speaker 6: You might feel a little prick. Let's go with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I took the haunted underwear, held it taut, rubbed it
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  Speaker 8: on the cactus, then put it in a spot in
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  Speaker 8: my room that it would appear dirty and left for school.
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  Speaker 4: Oh. That's like illegal.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's stealing her own underwear. Maybe don't steal it.
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  Speaker 1: She's told you to stop and you just keep doing it. Yes.
• 11:30
  Speaker 6: I put like itching powder.
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  Speaker 8: Itching powder would be better than this. This might send
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  Speaker 8: her to the hospital. I came home to see that
• 11:37
  Speaker 8: the pair of underwear was gone. I saw her later
• 11:39
  Speaker 8: that day walking funny and she couldn't look at me.
• 11:42
  Speaker 8: She never said anything about it, but I've heard through
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  Speaker 8: the wall we shared that she needs help.
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  Speaker 4: Getting the pricklies off. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 8: I thought that I was sly about it, LOL, but
• 11:56
  Speaker 8: it turns out my brother put two and two together.
• 11:58
  Speaker 8: Years later, after the relationship ended, he comedically brought up
• 12:01
  Speaker 8: the story at a get-together, ending it with, Yes, Opie,
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  Speaker 8: I know that was you, and we couldn't control our laughter.
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  Speaker 8: I clarified some things about the situation to him in
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  Speaker 8: the conversation, since he wasn't fully aware due to the
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  Speaker 8: lies from his girlfriend, now ex, and trying to stay
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  Speaker 8: out of girl drama. He was under the impression that
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  Speaker 8: it was other items of clean clothing. Definitely wasn't my
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  Speaker 8: finest moment, but she got the pokey.
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  Speaker 1: She got the pokey pokey.
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  Speaker 4: She got her clam poked. Ow.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, owie.
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  Speaker 4: This feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Cactus-y. The moments when... When people put, like, laxatives in.
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  Speaker 8: You know, like, when there's, like, stories where people are
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  Speaker 8: eating other people's food at the office?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yes.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and, like, someone, they're like, oh, I put laxatives
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  Speaker 8: in the food. That feels like if you put itching
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  Speaker 8: powder in the underwear. Putting cactus spikes in underwear feels
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  Speaker 8: like if you put, like, something that would make them vomit.
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  Speaker 4: Profusely.
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  Speaker 5: Profusely.
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  Speaker 8: That feels like the comparison there. Like, you put arsenic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: maybe not arsenic, but, like.
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  Speaker 4: Her meat section hurts. Yeah, that feels pretty intense.
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  Speaker 1: But you were 16. My crotch hurts. Don't do that, folks.
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: Don't do that. Don't do that.
• 13:17
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: Don't take people's dirty laundry.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think we'd have to say this as
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: a public announcement, but don't do that.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: Don't take people's underwear, but also don't do this as revenge.
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: That could have been really.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Really bad. Oof.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: My stepdaughter uninvited her sister from a party, so I
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: refused to bring her gifts. Bring her back! My 43-female stepdaughter,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: 23-female Sally, invited me to her baby shower along with
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: her sisters, Lee, 25, Callie, 25, and Amanda, 13. We
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: were all over at my parents' house for a cookout.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: We usually do all holidays there since my mother has dementia,
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: also important. And I go over every weekend to give
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: my dad some much needed time away from home. When
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: she invited us, Lee let her know that she could
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: not go to the last weekend of the month.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: This is important as she.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Works that weekend. When the date was announced, it was
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: May 30th, so Leigh was not going to be able
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: to attend. Leigh said that was alright as she understood
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Sally's mom planned the baby shower and she would just
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: do something with Sally at a later time. Callie, Amanda,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed shopping for the little one. Callie
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: let us know she was having a boy and they
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: were doing Winnie the Pooh for the baby room.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: Love that. I love Anita Poole. We went all out.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: My husband and I got the video baby monitor they
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: were wanting with an extra camera. Tons of baby clothes
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: all six to 12 months since most people buy newborn two,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: three months. I actually had Sally over to give her
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: some things because I went a little overboard.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Patty Cake Doll.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And if you want to spin your own stories, go
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: to the RSI Showcase Storytime subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And we are here to give good advice goofily, but
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: we don't have all the answers. We only tell you
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: what we do.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: But let us know what you would do down in
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: the comments, please.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: As Opie says, the day before the shower arrives, Sally
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: sends a message in the family group chat that says,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see everyone at the baby shower tomorrow.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: As a reminder, the shower is for people 20 and
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: up only. No children allowed. Amanda gets very upset and messages,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: does that include me? Sally never responded. The next morning
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: comes and I respond, since we've still not heard from Sally,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: that if Amanda was not welcome to come and celebrate
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: her first nephew and her sister, then I would just
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: drop my gifts at Sally's another time. Still no response.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Keep in mind, she had invited Amanda at the cookout,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and had never said anything about it being an adult-only occasion.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Callie also decides not to go because now Sally has
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: excluded Lee and Amanda and felt it was extremely rude,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: especially to wait until the day before. A whole week
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: goes by and no one hears anything from Sally. But
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: we did hear from my daughter-in-law that Sally is moving
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: to be closer to her bio mom at the end
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: of July. Sally messages me that Friday and also when
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I'm planning on dropping off the baby gifts. I let
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: her know I'm at work and can't talk right now.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Another week.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: And she messages me on Saturday asking if I can
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: drop off the gifts or if she should come by
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: and pick them up. As I said, on the weekends,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I am with my mom, and at this point, it's
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: been two weeks that the only thing I've heard from
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Sally is, when are you dropping off gifts? I lost it,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and this is where I may be the a-hole. I
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: text her, honestly, I'm tired of feeling used. You've broken
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: your sister's and your dad's heart. You've left the family
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: out of everything, including the gender reveal, and didn't even
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: bother to tell us you're moving. I'm not bringing the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: gifts by. Dang.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Wow. OP texted that? OP texted that. Okay, okay. OP said,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I stayed on business. You don't include your sister?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: You don't get a gift. The next thing I know
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: is her mother is texting me.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: A little backstory.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: While my husband and I were searching for a new house,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: we found one with an apartment out back and told
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Sally if we got that house, she could move into
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: that apartment. We ended up not buying that house and
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: got a smaller one. Sally came to us asking if
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: she and her boyfriend could move in. This was about
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: two years ago. We told her we didn't have room
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: as Amanda. And her two brothers had the other rooms.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And in fact, one brother was in the basement that
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: was unfinished. Two weeks later, she shows up with her boyfriend,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: her mom, and all of their Sally and the boyfriend
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: stuff saying her mom got a new house with only
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: two bedrooms and they could not stay there. So we
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: split the basement in half because what else can we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: do and give them half? That's kind of crappy.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: We spoke with them and the agreement was $ 200 per person.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Since neither of them were working, we agreed to start
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: in two months to give them time to get a job.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: He get a job. She never did.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on, girly pop. Let's start chipping in. At
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: one point, the basement flooded because Sally unplugged the sump
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: pump to plug in her TV.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Sally!
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Cue the cleanup! That's so stupid.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: All of this is thrown in my face by her mom.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: She messages me saying this is the last time I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: will make her daughter cry. That when the basement flooded,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Sally got hurt and we did nothing. I offered to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: take her to the ER. She twisted her ankle. She
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: refused and called her mom to take her instead. That
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: we charged them $ 400 to stay in an unfinished basement
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: after we invited them to move in with us. So
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: if anyone is using someone, it's me using her daughter.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: That's weird to throw that back. Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: That's interesting.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: That feels like the type of logic that my neighbor
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: would have used this morning.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Sally still got her gifts. Her dad took them to her.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But was I the a-hole for refusing to take them?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: This has been weighing heavily on my mind. I have
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: great relationships with all my stepchildren, but Sally has never
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: liked me no matter what I do.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: So, was I the a-hole?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: No.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: She doesn't seem like she really... Communicates well? No, it
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: seems like she's just kind of expecting everyone to know what...
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know. She just expects a lot, it seems. Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: it seems like she's expecting a lot.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: There's just... I mean, again, there's just no communication.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I don't really.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: And then also for her to be like, oh, by
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the way, this person's uninvited. Like your own sister. Your
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: own sister's uninvited?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's 13. Even though she got very, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: very excited, bought stuff for the baby.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: You know, like you don't exclude. Well, that's why it feels.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: Like she like this girl is taking advantage of people
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: because she waited until her sister bought stuff and contributed
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: and then.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Was like, you can't come. Oh, bummer. You can't come. Oh, boy.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: It's been about two weeks. two weeks since this went down.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I talk with Lee two to three times a week,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and I mentioned I had posted this today. She let
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: me know that Sally has blocked not only Amanda on
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: social media, but her and Callie as well. No explanation
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and will not answer their, the older girl's texts. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: know she had blocked Amanda. She did that the night
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: she made the announcement about the baby shower, but I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: had no idea about the other girls. So I asked
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: my sons, all three of them, Are also blocked. Two
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: step-sons and my bio-son. I have no idea why.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: This is weird.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: All the bridges have been burned? Why?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: She seems dramatic.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Overly.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The boys did not get involved at all. Lee
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: couldn't go because of work and had let Sally know
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: before the shower was planned. And I guess Callie was
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: blocked because she sided with her other sisters. Thank you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: for all the feedback, both the good and the bad.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: What?
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: So then.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: That's it?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are you gonna, like.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Okay. Do something about this? Hope he's like, well, that's it. Yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I guess everyone's just blocked. No one can ever talk
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to anyone ever again.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: All right, we're all blocked.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: La la la.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: La la la la la.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: That pisses me off. Where it's like you don't get
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: a reason or like the full on reasoning why you
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: did it. You just went, OK, all of you block.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I just don't I.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Don't understand what the point of any of that was.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Who's like, why?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Why is she, you know, not letting her sister come
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and then blocking everyone, not talking to anyone?
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Katie, I agree.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It's probably her bio mom has something to do with this.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Seems like everyone's a little bit because, yeah, talking behind backs.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like things are. Things are looking up.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: No, it seems like things are looking... I know what
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: to do. Flooded. You take this, and you go.
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you do it to take on me, because that
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: was the... No, I meant to... Who are you hitting?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, to the girl.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: The Sister Sally. Sister Sally. Christina the Greek says she
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: just wanted gifts. She doesn't like them. Yeah, truthfully, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: that's rude. Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: I uncovered my mother's years-long affair, so I finally exposed
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: the truth. The truth will set you free! I, 20 female,
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: have always had a tumultuous relationship with my mom, 42 female.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Dang. Honestly, it feels like it started the moment I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was born.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Aw, dang.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: She's accused me completely seriously of trying to separate my parents...
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: Because when I was two years old, I sat between
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: them on the couch. Your mom has serious issues. That
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: kind of thinking has always defined a relationship. As I
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: got older, the issues got bigger. My dad would often
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: take my side because most of the time I was
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: being logical and calm while my mom escalated everything. She
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: has never taken accountability for anything. Instead, she deflects, rewrites
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: events or makes herself the victim. When she doesn't get
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: her way, she yells, blows the situation up into something
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: much bigger and refuses to acknowledge her part in it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: One time she came into my room and took some
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: of my cash without asking. When I calmly brought it up,
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: she said it wasn't really my money because I was
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: the child and she was the adult. So she could
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: take what she wanted.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: She said it's like taking candy from a baby. What
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: are you going to.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Do about a little baby?
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Cry.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Cry about it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: And then she bops.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: You on the head.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: That mindset eventually led her to taking $ 6, 000 from me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Holy crap. $ 6, 000 is crazy.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: How does a two-year-old have that? She's like, you're trying
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to destroy my marriage.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Give me all your money. How does a two-year-old have
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: more money?
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: My baby empire.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: She claimed it was for the house, but her pantry
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: was empty while she always had new clothes and food
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: for herself. By the way, this comes from nomunks7134, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: if you want to submit your own stories, go to
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: the r slash okstorytime subreddit.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: And we're here to give good advice, Goofily, but we
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: She also hasn't worked for almost the entirety of my parents' marriage.
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: and only recently got a job. Even so, she doesn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: pay any of the household bills. My dad pays for everything,
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: including paying off her credit card when she runs it up.
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: Even after they separated, he is still financially supporting her
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: in ways he shouldn't have to. and has no retirement
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: savings to show for his hard work. Growing up, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: was expected to do the majority of the cleaning and
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: take care of my two younger brothers. She would constantly
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: complain that nobody helps her. But when my dad or
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: I tried, we were doing it wrong or touching her
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: things without permission. It was impossible to win.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, been there, done that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I mean that's it is my mom to a certain
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: extent not like all of this yeah that's that's not
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like that but like my mom will be like oh
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: yeah it's fine guys I'll get it don't worry you
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: know whatever and then we go to help and she's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: like oh my god why are you putting it there
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm like all right and that's when I just
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'd rather get yelled at she was never.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: Emotionally supportive either and anytime I expressed feelings she minimized
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: them I've tried to set boundaries before they're always ignored
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: usually with the reasoning that she is the adult and
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: I am the child so my boundaries don't matter.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Wow, she sounds like a lovely lady.
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: I've tried to go low contact. I've told her I
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: needed space, and she would chase me around the house
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: and bang on my bedroom door until I continued the conversation.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Nightmare.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Nightmare, nightmare, nightmare.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I've written her letters because it felt safer than talking
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: in person. That's so sad. Yeah, this is bad.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, that just broke my heart. All jokes aside, that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: actually broke my heart. To be like, I can't communicate
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: with my mom because I feel more safe writing to her.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Fast forward. My parents are now separated. When they first separated,
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: my mom moved into the in-law apartment attached to our house.
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: But in November of last year, my pee-pee.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Pee-pee!
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming you.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: My pepe.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Pepe?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I thought it was pepe, but I like pee-pee. Pepe
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: like the frog.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Pepe like you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Anyway, but in November of last year, my Pepe got
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: very sick.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: I just like how you read it, my pee-pee.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: My pee-pee.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: My pee-pee got very sick.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: My pee-pee's sick.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: My pee-pee had a lot of cactus in it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: My pee-pee pokey.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So she had to move out. So he and my
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Mimi could move in.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I think it is Pee-Pee. I think she calls her
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Grandpa Pee-Pee. Pee-Pee and Mimi? My Pee-Pee and Mimi. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: like Pepe better.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Pepe and Meme?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Pepe, Meme.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: No, it's Meme.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just Meme.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: It's Meme.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: My Peep and Meme.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, do that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: My Pepe and Meme.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: So he and my Mimi could move into that space.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: Around the time of the separation, my mom started spending
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: all of her time with a man I'll call Pepe.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: 65 male They were together Constantly Gym Grocery tips To
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: another town Hiking Morning and night Morning and night?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, so why grocery trips to another town?
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: What's wrong with the grocery store in town? Alvin would
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: pick her up right in front of her house all
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: the time. It was obvious something was going on. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: started digging and found out he was married and that
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: they were having a full-blown affair. While she was out,
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: I looked at her computer and found email after email
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: about the relationship. About a year in, he said he
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: needed a break because he and his wife were going
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: to marriage counseling.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That guy stinks. Oh, we need a break. Should I? Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm working on my marriage.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: So if we could just take a break. I'm not
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: breaking up with you. We will start this later. But
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: just give me about like two, three months till this
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: chills out.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I need to get my relationship in a little
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: bit better of a place before I continue my affair.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: My God, I mean horrible.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Just put a bookmark in it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, a little pause. During that time, my mom kept
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: detailed diaries trying to convince him to leave his wife
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: because she wasn't good enough and was just like my dad.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: There were explicit details and longs of their activities in
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: her planner, plus them confessing their love for one another.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: It's been three to four years since the affair started,
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: and I still haven't said anything. Recently, she wrote that
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: Alvin's wife is getting suspicious.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Dear diary, I've been seeing Alvin for months now, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I feel that his wife is growing suspicious of our affair.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: His wife is interfering into our affair.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to do, Diary. Do you think
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I should ruin the relationship more? Or should I perhaps
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: return to my dullard husband? I grow weary of him
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: every day.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: One or two, dear Diary.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: One or two, chat. What do you think? Type one,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: if I should ruin his marriage. Type two, if I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: should just keep going with how it is. All right.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: And ruin his marriage.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Type two. Oh, dear diary, you wrote type two?
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, dear.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Diary, you've written both.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, shoot.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just at an impasse.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: I have been cheated on before and I genuinely believe
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: she has a right to know. I have wanted to
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: tell her for a long time, but I am afraid
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: of what my mom would do to me or to
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: my dad.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: If she found out it was me. On top of
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: all of this, I'm at a breaking point. My Mimi,
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: who meant the world to me, passed away in November.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: My pee-pee's health has started.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Stop.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: That's what it said.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It says pee-pee.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Is Mimi a pee-pee?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: My pee-pee's health has started slowing him down.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You can't even say it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: And my dad is under so much stress, caring for
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: him that his immune system is shot. The house has
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: fallen behind because he's exhausted. The most recent argument actually
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: started because the house was a mess and she refused
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: to help clean it. I confronted her about not being
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: there for us, not helping with the house, not helping
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: with my pee-pee, not supporting my dad, and prioritizing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Alvin over her family.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: She said she deserves to maintain her mental health and
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: that they're just friends.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: I said it's fine to have friends, but not when
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: he's married and you spend all your time together, especially
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: when his wife has made it clear he isn't to
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: have female friends. As usual, she escalated and refused to
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: take accountability. It's been a week since we've spoken and honestly,
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: I'm okay with that. I've talked with my therapist and
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: we think writing her another letter might be the best step.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: explaining why I'm distancing myself and that I'd be open
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: to reconnecting if she genuinely sought help and took accountability.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: She's been to therapy twice before, but each time concluded
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: that everyone around her is the problem.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: I don't want her at my wedding someday unless she
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: has done real work on herself. Part of me thinks
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: giving her the letter soon gives her time to show
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: whether she's capable of change. But I don't want the
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: fallout to land on my dad and brothers when they're
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: already dealing.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: With so much.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: Does writing the letter and stepping away fully sound reasonable?
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: Or is there a better way to handle this? And
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: what would you do about Alvin's wife? Do I tell her?
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: And if so, how would I do it safely? And
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: we've got an update.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: What do we do?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: As for Alvin's little number over there, I'm going to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: say write a letter.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's write letters to everyone. Yeah, just write letters.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Write as many letters as your heart desires. Kind of
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: like a to all the boys I've loved before situation.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Or even a 13 reason why.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe not that one.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I can't even make a joke anymore. My PB hurts.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: My PB's sick.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: My PB's sick.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: We have an update more than three months later.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: The same week I made the original post, my pee-pee
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: passed away.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: No!
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Sophia had it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, and it's so bad.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: It's so bad. You tried. You tried.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I have to change it to grandpa.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: For the sake of that sentence, I have to change
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: it to grandpa.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: No, you have to.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: You have to commit to the bit.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: The same week I made the original post, my pee-pee
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: passed away. We laid him to rest the following week,
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: and things have been a complete whirlwind since. Naturally, the
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: day my peepee passed away, my mom found a way
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: to make it all about her. She looked my dad
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: and aunt in the eye while they were with their
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: passing away father and claimed she was having a worse
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: day because she was physically injured at work. Girl, which
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: is way worse than emotional injury. For context, she works
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: with behaviorally challenged elementary-aged children. She then spent the next
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: two weeks obsessing over Alvin and even tried to invite
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: him to my grandfather's funeral.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: As most of you suggested, I need to tell Alvin's wife.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: After the funeral, I did exactly that. I found her
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: email address, created a burner account, and sent her the
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: screenshots I took from my mom's email. I sent it
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: on a Wednesday and didn't get an immediate reply, but
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: by Monday, all heck broke loose.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Does your dad know?
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: I don't think he knows.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he knows.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: My mom received a phone call from the wife. After
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: getting my email, the wife dug through her husband's phone records,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: found my mom's number, and called her. The real punter,
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: my mom was in the car with Alvin when the
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: wife called.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, dang.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's honestly power move. Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: The wife blasted her, told her to stay away from
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: her husband, then called her husband and ordered him home immediately.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: A massive blowout must have happened because later that week,
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: my mom completely panicked. She went to the police station
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: to try to file a restraining order against.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: The wife and failed. For what? Yeah, for what?
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: She even showed my younger brothers a picture of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: woman and her license plate, telling them to call her
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: immediately if they saw her. Now my mom is convinced
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: the wife has figured out their home address and she's
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: terrified the wife has been parking across the street waiting
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: for her and claims she's even been stalking her outside
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: of the gym. But despite claiming she is scared for
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: her life and despite dragging my younger brothers into her paranoia,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: she still goes to Alvin's house that he shares with
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: his wife and adult children.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Wait, what? I.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: I think that OP is, I think OP's mom, at
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: least from what OP said in the past, has some
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: sort of paranoid slang, not schizophrenia, but like, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: like as paranoia, paranoia that is unfounded. Um, like I
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: think she's a lot wrong with her. But it seems
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: like I don't know if any of that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Is actually happening. It's undiagnosed.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: That blinding fear didn't stop her from going right over
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: that very Saturday. For the last couple of months, she
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: has actively continued to see him, shop with him, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: talk about him nonstop.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Whoa.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: And if that wasn't enough, right before my peepee passed away,
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: I uncovered a massive family secret. My parents are already divorced.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Since when?
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So technically, this, well, no, because she is still infringing
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on their marriage.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: Back in October of last year, they went to divorce
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: court and legally ended their marriage. They decided to tell
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: absolutely no one until the chaos calmed down.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: So the chaos could come back up?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why?
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: I only found out because my aunt and I were
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: going through Pee Pee's will and trust. I was spiraling,
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: terrified that my mom was going to find a way
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: to take further advantage of my dad financially. To stop
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: me from worrying, my aunt finally looked at me and said,
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: they're already divorced. I was instantly relieved. Honestly, my dad
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: is just incredibly relieved that it's finally over. He's completely
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: done with her behavior and he has finally insisted on
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: making her pay rent. Through all of his grief, he
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: has become an even better father. All he wants now
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: is to spend time with us and be there for
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: his kids. My mom, on the other hand, has completely
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: distanced herself from us. Unless there's a camera around, she
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: has used the passings of my grandparents as a Facebook
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: publicity stunt, snapping photos of our family just to post
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: them online and show the world how perfect we are.
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: But her acting isn't working on the rest of the
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: family anymore. And she has officially stopped being invited to
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: any celebrations on my dad's side. My younger siblings still
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: have no idea about the divorce and probably won't find
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: out until closer to the end of the month. My
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: dad realized I knew about the divorce on the day
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: PP passed away because it somehow slipped out. When I
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: confronted my mom and asked if she knew that I knew,
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: she immediately deflected in trying to blame my dad. The
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: argument quickly devolved and I brought up Alvin. I told
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: her she was crossing boundaries and making my younger brothers
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: miserable by forcing them to live in her drama.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I flat out told her, I know you guys aren't
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: just friends. Her response, that's how we can be.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: I don't know why all of the adults are acting
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: like this.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But shape up. Shape up.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Come on, do better.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Grow up. Grow up.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Put your big pants on. Pee-pee wouldn't want this.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: But there's a little bit left.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Then she tried to minimize it by admitting that, if anything,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it was an emotional affair.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Mind you, I've seen the emails. It's a full-blown physical affair.
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: And she's like, but I felt very emotional after the
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: physical part. But hearing her actually say the words emotional
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: affair after years of lying was something else. Since that conversation,
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: we have gotten into full-blown screaming matches. I haven't officially
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: ended the relationship, and my dad would like me to
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: leave the door open, but I'm still unsure.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where things stand.
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: The marriage is over, the affair is exposed, the family
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: cut her off, and whatever relationship I had left with
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: her feels entirely gone. I'm just trying to take things
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: one day at a time, protect my brothers before they
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: find out the truth at the end of the month,
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: and be there for my dad. If anyone has advice
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: on how to navigate this kind of limbo with a
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: self-absorbed parent, I'd greatly appreciate it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Distance yourself? I don't know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I think you're doing all the right things. You exposed
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the truth.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: And, you know, even though everything kind of blew up,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I think it was going to come out anyway.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: It's definitely not your fault at all.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: You just sped up the process. Yeah, no, don't blame
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: yourself at all, Opie. I think you're just trying to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: do what's right in this situation. And I feel bad
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that you've been thrown all these different obstacles.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: In the middle of this. Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Tough.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Of just trying to live your life and be cool.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: You're like, I don't want my mom to listen to me.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: And she never does. And I just lost both my grandparents.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: And also I've just found out that my parents have
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: been divorced. So like, I was mad about this for nothing. Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I agree with Sophie King.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Therapy.
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: Therapy.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Big time.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Big girl therapy. Get in there, girl.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Get all up in there.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
• 37:44
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• 37:48
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• 37:52
  Speaker 11: My mother snooped through my things, so I planted fake
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: evidence for her to find.
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: I can't imagine that backfiring at all. I, a 22 female,
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: grew up in an extremely religious household.
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: My family was Mormon, and I knew from a very
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: young age that I was not. As a teenager, I
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: got rebellious. I drank energy drinks, tried Starbucks, and stopped
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: reading my scriptures.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Look at you being a bad Mormon, you.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Living in sin.
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: Back in the ground with the golden tablets only Joseph
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: Smith can read.
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: My mom thought I was becoming a classic 1960s leather
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: jacket bad girl.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: That's honestly sick.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: You're becoming those girls in Greece.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Stop.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: If you were, dude, help me.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: What were they?
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: Help me make me as cool as you.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: They were the lady something.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: It's not the teep. No.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: What were they called? What were those ladies called in Greece?
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: I don't remember. I'm only thinking of the outsiders.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: The pink ladies.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Pink ladies.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Shout out to Frenchie.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: I really wasn't.
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: I think the worst thing I did was steal from
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: the store because there was a body wash I really,
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: really wanted. I'm not saying I was a perfect angel
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: by any means. I was definitely a little crap, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: not a bad little crap. My mom started snooping through
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: my room. I think she was convinced I was hiding
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: stuff from her, and she wanted to find evidence. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: knew because I would find her in my room when
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: I got home from school or noticed my stuff moved around.
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: Being a petty teenager, I decided to give her what
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: she was looking for. I planned a notebook with gory art,
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: some cheap spicy sleep toys I found online, and a
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: used pregnancy test. Not all at once, but building up
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: to the pregnancy test. I even hide them in places
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: she'd have to go looking for, like under the fitted
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: sheets pressed between my mattress and the wall. or just
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: inside the crawl space between two beams and buried at
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: the bottom of my full trash can. Nothing really came
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: of them, but my mom did text asking if I
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: was hoping for a negative result like what the pregnancy
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: tests were showing. By the way, this comes from Construction Decon,
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: and if you want to speak on stories, you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Know where to go.
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: I'm Riley.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: I'm Dakota.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: And we're going to read this goofily because it's funny.
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: If you guys have anything you'd like to add, please
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: add it down below. As Opie says, Fast forward to
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: a few weeks when my sister got married. We're all
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: discussing family plans, raising kids, etc. My mom mentioned how
• 40:28
  Speaker 11: she was able to stay one step ahead of my
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: siblings and I. I guess my face showed it because
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: she asked if I didn't believe her. I thought we
• 40:37
  Speaker 11: were past the statute of limitations for my crimes, a.k.a.
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: My mom would be upset for a little bit, but
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: it would eventually become a funny story to tell. And
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: told her that I didn't think she really was a
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: few steps ahead of me. We started going back and forth.
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: She mentioned how we got a treat if we drank
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: all the water in our bottle throughout the day. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: told her I dumped my water out and still got
• 41:02
  Speaker 11: the treats. She mentioned taking me to therapy to get
• 41:05
  Speaker 11: my emotions out. I told her I didn't talk to
• 41:07
  Speaker 11: the therapist and knew she tried to get the therapist
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: to tell her what I talked about during the sessions.
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: Then she mentioned upgrading the home security because she knew
• 41:17
  Speaker 11: I lost my V-card and kept me from sneaking out.
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: I never snuck out and faked a phone call with
• 41:23
  Speaker 11: my friend saying I had when I had it because
• 41:26
  Speaker 11: I knew she was eavesdropping. This continued, and I admitted
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: I planted things in my bedroom for her to find
• 41:32
  Speaker 11: because I knew she was snooping in my room. She
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: got really upset, and we haven't really talked much since.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: Aww.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: She thought she was being a good mom and you
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: were tricking her.
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: Well, this certainly won't end up backfiring and making things worse.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: You know who was Mormon?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Ellen.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: I did know that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Yep, I knew that too.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: There's a large Mormon population in St.
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: Louis.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Also in Utah.
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: I knew a lot of Mormons and boy oh boy
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: were they mostly very unhappy about it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: She got really upset and we haven't talked much since.
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: I'm trying not to justify my actions as a kid
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: because I know I could have handled things better. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: think in a way I was trying to become all
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: the things my mom thought I was because at least
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: I fulfilled her expectations of me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: Hey, whoa, whoa.
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: Back up.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Am I the a-hole?
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: You're 22. You're not a kid.
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: She said these are things she did as a kid.
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: Now she's rehashing them as an adult.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: I was like, yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: You got math wrong.
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: You got to get out of that. You got to
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: get out. Move out of your family's house. Be away
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: from them.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: So what's happening is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 11: She's talking out through like all her like expectations of
• 42:41
  Speaker 11: like the things that mom thought she did. And they're
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: just rehashing the past.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: She hid pregnancy stuff in her room. She still lives
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: with them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: That was a few. That was like her as a kid.
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: Now she's rehashing these things a few years later.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: I thought that was what she was doing now to
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: be like, hey, you're an idiot.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: No, it was like, this is what I used to do.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Fast forward. Now we're having these conversations.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: Leave the Mormon church.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: A sparkly lady, well, trust goes both ways, mom.
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: She didn't trust her kids, so they didn't trust her.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Edit.
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: I appreciate all the responses and wanted to maybe give
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: more insight to the type of person my mother is.
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: For starters, no, I did not do this at my
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: sister's wedding. I worded it poorly and meant that the
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: wedding is what brought everyone together, and the wedding often
• 43:30
  Speaker 11: brought up many conversations about raising kids. Some people have
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: pointed out, that it's weird my mom wasn't confrontational about things.
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: My mom isn't a very confrontational person in general. She's
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: the type of person who wanted to pretend I didn't
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: know what she knew. I also think that because she
• 43:48
  Speaker 11: never really had any proof I was a horrible kid
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: like what she thought I was, that she was waiting
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: to catch me in the act to justify the way
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: she saw me. She really didn't say much things when
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: she found the things.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: I plan it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: That did shock me as a teenager and I'm not
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: entirely sure why she didn't give me a big reaction.
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: She was not trying to help me by dragging me
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: to therapy. All she knew was a kid who wasn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: religious and thought another adult could talk some sense into me.
• 44:18
  Speaker 11: I did willingly attend therapy around 17 because I was
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: trying to process actually leaving religion when I turned 18.
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: There were many times where we would argue and before
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: I went to therapy she'd say, I hope you enjoy
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: gossiping to your therapist about what a horrible person I am.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Why do moms do this?
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: You just get a little nasty sometimes.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: I also knew from this therapist that on multiple occasions,
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: my mom would visit or call trying to get any
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: sort of information about what I discussed during our sessions.
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: I think because I never kept a diary, my mom
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: had nothing to go off of because she I never
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: talked to her about anything going on in my life.
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: That's because I knew she would tell other people about
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: anything I would say. I have very distinct memories of
• 45:07
  Speaker 11: her gossiping about my cousins and my older sister in
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: such a negative light. I knew she would gossip about
• 45:13
  Speaker 11: me to other people so she doesn't get anything to
• 45:16
  Speaker 11: gossip about me for. She'd gossip for clout. Also, you're
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: a middle child. I can see it from a mile away.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: In the middle.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: Why am I so stuck in the middle now? I'm
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: a little middle child in the middle now.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Can't you guys see this too?
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: But we're so stuck in the middle now.
• 45:31
  Speaker 11: In the end, I think a lot of her behavior
• 45:34
  Speaker 11: boiled down to the fact that she sees herself in me.
• 45:38
  Speaker 11: She did say that a few times, how she doesn't
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: want me to be like her or have the same
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: regrets she does. So she was so often harsh with
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: how she treated me because of that. And it got
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: out of control.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Interesting.
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: Yes, she was like, Often I've tried to discuss this
• 46:07
  Speaker 11: with her. I get shut down or only hear a
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: bunch of excuses to justify her treatment of me. Sometimes
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: I'll get, and I'm sorry you feel that way. I
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: don't talk to my parents often. Well, this is why
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: you're here. This is why we're in this situation.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: Hey, there it is. And there it is.
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: When I do, it's only about things that aren't really personal.
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: I talk about my classes, my current internship, some projects.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: We sit in this limbo where I've moved on from
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: many things, recognizing that my mom was struggling to raise
• 46:38
  Speaker 11: five kids as a stay-at-home mom.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: But a silent.
• 46:42
  Speaker 11: Understanding that I won't get an apology for most of
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: my upbringing. I knew you had a lot of siblings.
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: I knew it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: I knew it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: I knew it.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: She's Mormon.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm in the middle now.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: I'm a Mormon in the middle now. Mormon in the middle.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever met a Mormon with just
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: like being an only child.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: Frankie Munez, Mormon in the middle.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: Mormon? Is that a Jamaican? Is that just a Jamaican show?
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Frankie Mormes.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: Mormon in the middle.
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: I do feel bad for going back and forth with
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: my mom, but at the same time, it felt a
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: little freeing.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was how I saw.
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: Her defeated for a bit, or because I've never told
• 47:17
  Speaker 11: anyone about being so sneaky. I hope my mom can
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: get professional help someday. and learn how to apologize for things.
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: I know the past won't change. I just wish she
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: would own up to her mistakes, but that would first
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: require learning not to assume an apology meant she failed.
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: I don't think my mom truly failed me, as there
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: are many skills and knowledge I have because of her.
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: I hope she realizes that one day.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: My parents called my fiancé not the right one days
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: before our wedding. You couldn't have said that earlier? I,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: 30s male, am getting married in a few days. My
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: partner and I have been planning a small private wedding
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: ceremony with just our witnesses, followed by a trip. The
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: history here is important. My parents have a long record
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: of controlling my life choices. When we previously discussed other decisions,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: like not wanting children, it resulted in a massive aggressive
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: conflict initiated by my mother. I ended up having to
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: back down just to keep the peace. Because of this,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I thought our wedding plans would be different. Initially, we
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: wanted a simple ceremony in a park, and after that,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: we'd immediately go on a trip, me and my future wife.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: My parents immediately pushed back, pressuring us for weeks, calling, texting,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and guilt tripping. To do it properly and at least
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: have some small lunch all together. Because that's what my
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: mother wants and it'll be a proper wedding. By the way,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: this comes from Jack Daniel. And if you want to
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: spin your own stories, go to the r slash okay
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: story time subreddit. I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I'm Dakota.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And we are here to give some good advice in
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a little goofy way. But we don't have all your answers.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: We only tell you what we would do. But let
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: us know what you would do down in the comments.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: As Opie says.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: When we originally planned a larger wedding, they pressured us
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: to include family children, even though we didn't want them
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: there initially. When we first planned a large wedding, but
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: we scratched that because of finances. My mother cried and
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: accused us of blocking the whole family and that she'll
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: not go if we won't let the kids come. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: we gave in to keep the peace. Then the goalposts
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: moved again. On my 30th birthday, just days before the wedding,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: my parents called to say they were considering not attending because...
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: The plans were a farce and too short. They attacked
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: my partner, saying she isn't the right one, and asked,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: what would people think of this wedding? What would we
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: show or tell them? You are both selfish. This led
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: to a huge fight.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: I don't even know what their problem is.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: What don't they like about the wedding? What's your problem?
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: They don't like that they're not controlling it. I guess so.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: That's the issue here. Mama wants a piece of that cake.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: During a follow-up meeting at their house, my father screamed
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that we were selfish and that they deserved a nice
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: memory of their only son's wedding. They eventually told us
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: that our original proposal of an abroad ceremony, what's her name,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: with just witnesses was actually better than what we were
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: currently planning. So the next day I wrote to them saying, fine,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we will do the abroad ceremony with just witnesses. They
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: both replied that it was a weird decision, but that
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: they respect it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe they meant weird in a positive way. Maybe
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, that's weird.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: We appreciate how cool you are, though.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Whatever. Could be that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Now, just a few days before the wedding, my father
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: has messaged me asking if we've rethought this, claiming that
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: by doing this, I am permanently destroying our family relationships,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: hurting my mother, and that he.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Will never forgive me.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, my God.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: These people are, you know what? I think that these
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: people are rich. I think Obi's parents are like super. Yeah,
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: didn't you hear the voice I was using?
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I did. That means they're rich.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: They're rich.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: They're risky.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: Ooh, they're very rich.
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: I think these people are super rich. And maybe it
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: said that and I missed that. And I think that
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: everything has to go according to their thoughts and their plans.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: And they've never had anyone tell them no before.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Which is just so annoying.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Like, no one gets everything they want, especially when it's
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: not your wedding, you're not getting married, you're not planning it. Like,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to take your, you know, what is it?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to take your ideas into consideration, but I'm
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: not going to choose every single thing that everyone likes ever.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just, every time they give you an idea,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: you go, oh, I'll consider that. Yeah, like, oh, I'm considering.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: I have decided not to invite them to the ceremony.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I want to be surrounded by love and support, not
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: by people who are openly critical of my partner and
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: who use forgiveness as a weapon to control my choices.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I know this will cause a massive blow up once
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: they find out, and I'm terrified of the fallout, including
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: threats of being disinherited. Edit, it was a threat they
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: used in the past, and they said if they do
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the disinheritance... It's mainly meant as a total complete cutoff
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: of a relationship between them and me and cutting me
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: out of their life.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's a little bit left.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: What are you doing? I'm going and enjoying my wedding
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: without my parents.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think that she's the a-hole?
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: OP?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: OP's a guy. Sorry, do you think that he's the a-hole?
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: No.
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: No, how could you be the a-hole for trying to
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: throw the wedding that you want to throw?
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: It sounds like these people, his parents, had a terrible wedding.
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: And now they're just trying to live it vicariously through
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: someone else's.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I think they're trying to put on a face and
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: impress people. I think that's what they're trying to do.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Rather than being like, oh, we had a horrible wedding.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: We got to make it up with our child. I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: think they are looking to have it a specific way.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: To be like, what are the guests going to think?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: What are other family members going to think about this?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Everyone needs to know that my son is rich. My
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: gut tells me I'm doing the right thing. But the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: guilt is suffocating me. How do you handle the, you're
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: destroying the family, guilt tripping.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: When it's days away from the wedding?
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: How do I stand my ground without getting sucked into
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a circular argument with people who clearly don't care about logic,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: only about control? Any advice on how to survive the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: aftermath if they explode when they realize the wedding happened
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: without them?
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Like this.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: Rupture your eardrums.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Or like this. Or like this.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, wait.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Or like this.
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: Dang, I should have been doing color commentary that whole
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: time for all of our listeners.
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: For anyone who's just listening, they were doing captivating mime performances,
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: various things like plugging your ears, being lassoed away, demurely
• 54:11
  Speaker 10: denying someone's presence in front of you.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: And there you have it, folks. And zipping your mouth.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: And zipping your mouth. And throwing away the key.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: We did forget that. Why don't you forget that one?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Was it not memorable? What's wrong with me? It was
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the last one, so I didn't think about it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: I had a lot going on.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: I just do your own thing.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's just, that's what's going to make
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you happy in the end. Yeah. You're going to regret
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: it if you don't. You know, and screw them. They
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: should have been more, should have.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Wanted to come. Yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: To add a bit more detail, my parents, mother mainly,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: had issues with all of my former girlfriends. At one point,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: they refused to see my former girlfriend for many years
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: simply because she wasn't allowed to visit their home with me.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: Why?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I'm also suffering anticipation, anxiety, and panic attacks at work
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: because I have trouble handling this much stress, which I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: disclosed to them at some point and told them it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: because of their behavior.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: And let me guess, they went, I don't believe that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: They went, they said, Sophia plugs her ears vigorously.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: It's probably your nagging girlfriend that's making you all stressed out.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Your girlfriend is trying to rip our family apart.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how could you let this happen, darling?
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: Don't listen to her.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: She's evil. Ugh.
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: Scoff, scoff.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: She's the devil.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: That's the end of the story.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was it by the way.
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: Hmm.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah. So I don't know. I, I truthfully going
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: low contact, I believe is going to help you and yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: And your new wife to be.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to make you feel lighter and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: not heavier.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: And then you'll float off into the air. Hmm.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Mother's again the last story and we got another one
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: coming right up. My mother blamed me for ruining her
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: vacation because I called her house a mess.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: Well, maybe your house shouldn't have been so messy.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Trigger warning animal neglect?
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: No.
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: Stop.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I am a 25-year-old guy living about 10 minutes from
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: my childhood home where my mom now lives alone. She
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: has two dogs with her. One is an old family
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: dog that's turning 15. The other is a puppy that's
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: about eight months old. For context, they're in an apartment.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: These are small dogs and there's plenty of space for both. Regardless,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I moved out three years ago to live with my partner.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: We live in a pretty small apartment. That's just a
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: bedroom and a kitchen pretty much. So sometimes if my
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: mom had to go somewhere or whatever, I would drop
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: by there to babysit them after my shift. I work
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: only night shifts. This month, She was supposed to go
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: on vacation to a beach abroad. I agreed to come
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a few times to feed and walk the dogs, no problem.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: She told me they've been having a bit of an
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: ant issue recently, but that it's not too bad.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: And I said, that was okay.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from adorablead1615. And if you
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: want to spend your own story, Go to the r
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: slash okay story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: I'm Keon.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: We're here to give you some good advice. But we
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: don't have all your answers. We'd only tell you what
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: we would do. But you should let us know what
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: you would do right now in the comments.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Go.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: As Hopi says, so first day of her being abroad,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I come to walk them and everything is fine. I
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: pour them some food and water and leave. I come
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: back later in the day. I noticed that they haven't
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: been eating or drinking at all. We live in Europe
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and there's a huge heat wave going on right now.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking this is not good. I pick up
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: the food containers from which they eat and pour the
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: stuff down the toilet so I can replace it.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Why down the toilet? Why not just in the trash?
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Why are you going to clog the pipes? That's weird.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Along with the food fell something that I thought was dirt.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Just this huge black mass of speckles.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Was that ants?
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I knew this was coming.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: They left food out. And then I noticed that it
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: was moving. It was ants, like more ants than I've
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: ever seen together in my life. Had to be in
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: the hundreds. It's no wonder they weren't eating. I try
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to get them to eat and drink, but they just
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: do not want to.
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately, when you have ants, you cannot leave. I've
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: been there.
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: And I've also had dogs staying when I was dealing
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: with this problem. You cannot leave any food out. You
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: have to make sure they eat it, and then you
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: remove the food.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: So wait, I feel like you could just like put
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: them in a like a different bowl for them to eat.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: I think they would eat if it was in a
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: different bowl. Glitter Corpses Spook Teak says I have PTSD
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: around ants. Yes, that's a legit thing.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's a legit thing because I have it.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I come back the next day and try pouring them
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: some water and food before we take a walk, hoping
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: they would eat it quickly.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: They don't want to.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I pour them some food and we go out for
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: about 30 minutes. We come back and the little ones
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: start eating. The little ones started eating. I'm like, why
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: did you stop doing this? Oh, wait.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: OP keeps leaving food unattended.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Hold on. And as soon as she does, a bunch
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: of ants just disperse from under the food.
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Like, OP, this is your fault.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Just take the dogs just take the dog food outside
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: have them eat it yeah that's.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: What I thought I don't understand I know there's a
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: heat wave though so maybe it's too hot but like.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: After the first I mean she took him out for
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: a walk anyway after the first ant you know infestation
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: on the food you should not have made this mistake
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: twice And you certainly cannot make it a third time.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Do not leave food unattended.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: She then pees herself, and the older one starts licking it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Mind you, he hasn't been or wanted to drink for
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: two days now.
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: Why are we not, like, what's going on? Duchess Cassandra says, OMG,
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: this opiate's an idiot, though.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: A little bit, yeah. This is how I would approach this.
• 59:54
  Speaker 8: What I'm doing here, if I don't have the experience
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: that I personally have with ants.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: I see the ants.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Are all on the food.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: I call the people I'm looking, you know, the dog,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: the people, the owners. And I say, hey, just out
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: of experience, the dogs aren't eating.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: They're not drinking. What do you think I should do?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Why was that not the first thought? I would immediately
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: go get ant traps or like make one or something.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: Ant traps.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm doing. Or getting at least like sprayed.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Like you gotta do something.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: It's just absolutely wild to me that seemingly OP has
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: not contacted the owner, saying your dogs haven't eaten or
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: drank in two days.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. And she's throwing the food into the toilet. Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Stop. I lose my crap.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I call my mother yelling, asking her how the F
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: did she think it was a good idea to leave
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: two dogs in an infested house. It's not infested.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: You're just dumb. Hmm. How she did not plan this
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: And if it was like this, she could have went
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: to vacation and we could have had them at one
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: of those dog sitting places while an exterminator could have
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: taken care of the ants. Three birds, one stone. You dumb.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: You dumb. So she came back after being away for
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: two days. The whole vacation was supposed to be a week.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: And now she is pissed at me for not being
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: able to do her this one solid.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And how she is so tired all the time and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: deserved a vacation. I told her she did deserve a vacation,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: but we should have organized accordingly and not have ants
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: crawling around in their food. I'm worried that the ants
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: maybe bit their mouths or something like that.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I am just mad.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: My mother-in-law says I was out of line, but I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: don't know. Am I the a-hole? Like, yeah. I don't know.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: Just because I have experiences with ants. Maybe OP has
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: no idea how to take care of these ants. And
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: it's not your job to... get all of the ant stuff.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: For your mom, but your mom did warn you that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: there were ants and like rule number one with ants
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: is don't leave food out.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: So like a little bit. Yes.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: But I understand where your frustration is coming from.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're the a-hole in a sense. I
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: think you're more just like... Clueless?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you that. I'll give you clueless. Yeah,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: because it's not.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Like you meant for this to happen or were planning this.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: You were trying to avoid it. You tried to take
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: care of the dogs the best you could, but then
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh God, what is happening here? I don't
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: think you're the a-hole. I think you're just uninformed about
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: what to do.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: And don't know how to... figure things out. Yeah. Which
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: kind of concerning, but I don't know.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 8: I do think, I guess I will amend part of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: my statement because I think that if you literally are
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: so overwhelmed that you do not know how, and you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: don't know how to figure these things out.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: Call the original owners, like call your mom back because
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: you don't want, you know, the dogs to pass away
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: because you don't want to.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Take care of them.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I just feel so bad for the dogs that like,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: they don't know what to do. They're just getting like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: they're just eating ants.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Whatever that made me upset. Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Susie says ants happen so fast. We treat for ants
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't matter. They're relentless.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: I was dealing with ants for two years and I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: tried everything. I mean, people in chat know I was
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: trying the diatomaceous earth. I was trying raid. I was
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: trying like ant baits and nothing worked until, and my
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: landlord like was saying that she wouldn't spray because she
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: didn't like, it's bad for the environment.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not spraying. I don't want to spray.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: And I literally had to like beg her, The ants
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 8: will not stop. Please spray outside the house. And she
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: ended up doing that. And that was the only thing
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: that's actually gotten rid of the ants. And even then,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: like they still come not in the waves that they were,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: but like they still come occasionally when it gets hot.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: My mother-in-law played the victim for years, so I matched
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: her energy.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Ooh, queen, you be a bee, I'mma be a bee.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: To start, I will tell you that I am fully
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: aware I tend to react first and think later. I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: also need to point out that my mother-in-law has a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: habit of taking anything you say or text and twisting
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: it into what she thinks you meant, even when you
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 8: clearly explain yourself. It's also important to point out that
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: my husband has tried to keep the peace, but even
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: God couldn't open her eyes.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: So he tends to.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Back away from the entire situation. Which is fine with me.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: It's never caused problems in our marriage. My mother-in-law and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: I have had our disagreements.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Over the years.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: One incident that caused a permanent wedge happened after my
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: husband and I got married. I have a son from
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 8: my first marriage. One day, we were at her house,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: and my brother-in-law and her kids were there as well.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: As we were leaving, she wanted a picture with her grandkids,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: so my son and my two nephews took a picture
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: with her.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Then I heard her say, Okay, now one with just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: my real grandkids. What the F?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from LMXTCTU, and if you
• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia. I'm Savannah.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: I'm Dakota.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: And OP says, So, I grabbed my son, pulled my
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: husband aside, and said, let's go. I was incredibly hurt,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: but even more angry. I never said anything to her,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: but I no longer made a point of bringing my
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: son around. He was only seven at the time and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: I prefer to keep things positive for him. I didn't
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: even tell my husband what happened. Fast forward to 2021
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: and my son's wedding. He invited my mother-in-law and her
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: husband number three to the wedding. He did not invite
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: my brother-in-law or his family because they were not active
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 8: in his life. mainly because my husband and his brother
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: are not on speaking terms. My son did ask my
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: husband if he wanted his brother there, and my husband said,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: not really, but it's your wedding, and I respect your.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Choice if you do.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: My mother-in-law called me, flipping out because brother-in-law wasn't invited.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: She told us we needed to invite him. He explained
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: that we weren't paying for the wedding and that it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: wasn't our decision. She threw a fit. We told her
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: to take it up with my son. That was strike one.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: In 2023, we invited her here for Thanksgiving. They canceled
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: that day. The day of.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: All that food was wasted.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: I cooked for seven people and only had three at
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: the table. I decided I was done planning anything that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 8: included her, her husband, or their friends.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Strike two.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: I should also mention that my mother-in-law went through a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: serious health issue a while back. After all her treatments
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: and tests, she is thankfully recovered. However, because of what
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: she went through, she still has some ongoing challenges that
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: make long-distance travel stressful for her. I am sympathetic to that,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. With that said,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: on to my breakdown. In October 2025, I was trying
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: to figure out Thanksgiving plans. I mentioned to my mother-in-law
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: that we would probably be going to my mom's house.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: She lives two hours away, and we usually drive there
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: and back on the same day. I told my mother-in-law
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: she was welcome to join us if she decided not
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: to go to her daughter-in-law's house. Keep in mind that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 8: her in-laws live farther away from her than I do,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: and about the same distance from her as my mom.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: She told me she would let me know. I told
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: her nothing was set in stone. At the last minute,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: we decided to have our floors redone the weekend after Thanksgiving...
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: So I told my mother-in-law we definitely planned on going
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: to my mom. She started asking if we would hit traffic,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: why my mom and son couldn't come to my house instead, etc.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: I explained about the floors and told her she could
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: either come to my house or meet us halfway and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: ride with us. She said she would work it out.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: She eventually said she would come and ask me to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: find out what she could bring. I told her I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: would ask my mom. At that point, I thought the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: plan was set. Since the election, I had posted on
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: Facebook about my unhappiness with a current candidate. At one point,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: I posted that if anyone in my family voted for
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: a specific person, I wonder who that is. I didn't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: want to spend the holidays with them. Sure, that may
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: have been extreme, but I know my limits. I mean,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: that's fair.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: My mother-in-law's husband removed me as a friend.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: A few days later, I received a birthday card from them.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: It said, you're a year older. Underneath in his handwriting,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: he had written, big deal.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Ew.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Why even say anything if you're just going to be
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: so rude and on my birthday? You're a year older.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Big deal.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Big whoop.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm petty.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: So I sent him a text that said, I received
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: my card. I will be sure to show my appreciation
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: come Christmas.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Have a day.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: Huh?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Have a day.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: OP is doing the same.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Giving the same energy back.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Have a day. I'm going to start saying that. All right.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Have a day. What type of day?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Whatever you think you deserve.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: A week before thanksgiving my mother-in-law texted me and said
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: she wasn't coming to my mom's because it was too
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: far to drive she said she was going to stay
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: home alone and make a turkey i asked her why
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: she makes plans she doesn't intend to keep her reason
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: wasn't the issue the issue was that she knows how
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: far away my mom lives She knows her limitations and
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: people make arrangements around.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Her only for her to cancel. She immediately played the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: victim saying, I didn't understand.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: How hard things were for her and that I was
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: selfish and needed to show more compassion.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: Blah, blah, blah, your needs.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: I hate you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: Again, I told her I understood the issue. I think
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 8: Opie should just respond to everything with, yes, I understand. Yes,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 8: that's so sad.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: This is truly devastating.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: I understand. Have day.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Have a day.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Have a day.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: That wasn't what I was upset about. She told me
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 8: we were obviously never going to see eye to eye.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Fine.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: Whatever.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 8: Thanksgiving rolled around and my mother-in-law contacted my husband to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: tell him that she had lied to her husband and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: told him she was meeting us halfway for lunch so
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: she wouldn't have to go with him to his family's gathering.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: Your mother-in-law just doesn't like hanging out with anybody.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, I want to be alone.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: I want to be alone.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Get away from me.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: And also, if you leave me alone, I'm going to say,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: why did you do that? Normally, I would have rolled
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: my eyes and left it alone. But my hormones and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 8: perimenopause took over, and the petty princess came out. When
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 8: we got home, I posted on Facebook. His kids are
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: still friends with me on Facebook. It was nice spending
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: time with my mom, husband, son, and grandson today. Hopefully,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: we'll see other family members at Christmas. The week after Thanksgiving,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: I was writing our Christmas cards. I sent one to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: her and another to her husband. Inside his card, I wrote,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: I wanted to return your kindness, so for your gift
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: this year, I decided to donate $ 5 to several charities
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: in your name. I listed four charities that were complete
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: opposites of his core values and belief. I signed it,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: have the holiday you deserve. I also used his business
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: email address for each donation. Well, that was the cherry
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: on top. My mother-in-law texted me saying she got his
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: card and threw it away. She said he had seen
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: the donation emails and was furious.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: I replied, I match energy. Yes, let's use charities. To
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: be petty. Yes, I'll give to charity and not you.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: See how you like it.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: OP, do you give to charity other times? Nope, only
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: for pettiness. Only for pettiness? Okay.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: She then told me he doesn't vote. I said, so
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 8: he's mad about me for a comment I made about
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: people who vote?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: She told me I needed help because I was so vindictive.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: Then she said, I understand why your son doesn't want
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: to spend time with you. You're the reason I didn't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: get to see him grow up. You are a terrible mother.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: Whoa.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: You literally said he wasn't your real grandchild.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: And now a line has been crossed.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: What? That's strike three. Oh.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: That's strike three. Strike three.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: She's out of here.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: She's out. Get her out.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: We can kick her out of the villa. Oh, we
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: can be done. I was just waiting for that strike
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: three like 10 years later.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Ugh.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: At that point, every kind word left my vocabulary. I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: told her, first of all, you're the reason you didn't
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: get to see him grow up, reminded her about the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: photo incident, which she denied and told me I was
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: lying and accused me of projecting.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I then told her no longer.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: Include me, my son or my grandson, in anything family related.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: As far as I was concerned, we were non-existent to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: her from that point forward. I also told her I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: would never tell her son to distance himself from her
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: because that's not who I am. However, I would never
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: again put myself in her presence because I believed she
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: was toxic. I told her not to contact me or
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: my son again. I concluded by saying I know I
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: wasn't the mother of the year, and I've spent the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: last 15 years working on my relationship with my son.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: However, the last person I need or want an opinion
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: from is a so-called Christian who committed adultery but lectures
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: others about right and wrong. Throw your stones somewhere else. Whoa!
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Mic drop i mean stone drop drop your stones baby
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: oh my burn her at the stake you know what
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: burn her at the stake might as well put her
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: in a stake and burn her get her medium rare
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: i want her in a stake and i want to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: eat it i want it now that was the final
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: strike do you have any final thoughts burn her at
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the stake Cause she made a big mistake.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: I just don't like how this was handled at all.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: And she just doesn't, the mom really doesn't understand that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: there are consequences to actions, especially when you're not like
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: intentionally rude.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm, I'm not going to let my child
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: see you anymore. Well, I mean, I guess he's not
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: a child. He doesn't want to.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: See them though.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: So it's like, he's not really made any effort to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: reach out to grandma. So yeah. And, It's not like
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: she's made an effort to reach out to him either.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: She actively didn't see him as her grandchild. Since he
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: was seven.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Like, bye. Bye. I don't need it.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: Bye-bye.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: But we got a little bit left.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: She then called my husband and told him her version
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: of what she believed I had said. When he got home,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 8: I showed him the actual text messages. I told him
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: he could spend Christmas with her or any other holiday
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: if he wanted, but I would not be attending. He
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: said he would just visit her at work or meet
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: up with her separately. He knows I am capable of
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 8: being civil in places I do not want to be,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: but he hates conflict and would rather avoid it. Now,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: it's been several months that I've started hormone replacement therapy.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: Looking back, I'm wondering if I overreacted. I should also
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: mention that my mother-in-law has only seen my grandson once
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 8: when he was five months old. He turns four years
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: old this month.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's not even your decision whether or not
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: she sees your grandson. It's your son's decision.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I agree. And she's just repeating the same pattern, so
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: she's never going to change. So just cut it off
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: now while it's still, you know, not a thing. Like,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: just be done with it. Who cares? She wants to complain.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Go complain. Complain to someone who cares, which is not me.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: No, sir.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: No, sirree. Ooh.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: But that's the end of that story.