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028 - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S3 E2 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle: Welcome back to another episode of reality hits, Matt. I'm your host, Michelle. And I'm Matt. Today we'll be diving into season three, episode two. Right. Episode two. Yeah. Before we get started, do you want to do a quick recap of episode one? Sure. I like I haven't done a recap in a while. It's been a Yeah, we did. Season three episode one last week before that we did the Vanderpump Villa episode that the girls went to Yep, and then before that we had the full season two recap Yeah, so it's been close to a month. I haven't done a recap in a while. So bear with me ⁓ last week season three episode one Starts out you told me that it starts out with Taylor ⁓ She's taking a break from the group, doing some therapy, trying to get her life in order, stepping aside. And then I think ⁓ jumps into that Minky Couture influencer event. Wow, I forgot the name of that. Yeah. ⁓ And Macy and Michaela are there and you said the DJ was like calling out numbers or somebody would go to a number, the music would stop. Macy's running around. said she's super competitive, trying to get a couture bag. Yeah. She ends up getting one. We learn that. Whitney is no longer in Mom Talk. Yeah. She went into negotiations and wanted tickets to the Oscars, as well as a part in another scripted reality TV show. According to Michaela. OK, well, I mean, you told me, so that's how it goes. ⁓ Demi is also out. said that in an interview. So. All right. Well, you told me, so. ⁓ my gosh. That's that's what I'm running with. Demi is also out of MomTalk. She for three times as much as the other girls are making in negotiations and they said no. So her and Whitney are now making content together about MomTalk and whatnot. So yeah. Still not as bad as ⁓ what they showed. Not as bad as what Michaela was doing about Whitney. Okay, all right. In my opinion, from what I saw. In your opinion, all right. ⁓ Is at this influencer event as well and jesse is on her way there Layla calls jesse and says, you know, hey before you come in I need to talk to you Yeah, and you had said that layla said she was sick to her stomach about the whole jesse marciano thing Yeah, which confused me because this is season three I thought everybody knew about this, but I guess they did the reunion Yeah after they started recording for season season three. So, like, I was really confused last week. I think they rolled from season two right into filming season three. Then at point during the season three, they they did the reunion for season two. Yeah. So, like, they, like, literally just like ended season two filming, rolled right into season three. Right. Right. So, Layla wants to go talk to Jesse about, you what Marciano said and Jesse's caught off guard. guess her and Jordan were on a break. ⁓ She hung out with Marciano, made out him, ⁓ whatever. And then Layla's like, no, he you guys had sex. So ⁓ Layla's like. I'm going to call him. So they call him. He doesn't know that Jesse's in the car. He's on speakerphone. Yeah. And Laila's like, well, no, that, you know, she's saying you didn't. Marciana is like, yeah, you know, she was going to say that this and that. then Jesse steps in and is like, yeah, no, like this isn't what happened. And he kind of backs off a little bit. So then this is like kind of opens up like a whole like. a whole thing with Jesse and Jordan, because they were like handling this privately, not thinking it would ever get out. And now it's like Jordan knew about about it. Right. For the most part, not thinking that sexual intercourse happened, but like they were dealing with it separately. Right. So she leaves to talk to Jordan. and let him know that this is going to drop. So they've to let their families and friends know to drop because it's not going to be private anymore. All right, so then it moves on. I think we're moving towards Leila's birthday party. She's invited all the girls, well, all the girls that are, I guess, remaining. She has Macy, Michaela, Jessie. And Miranda. And Miranda, who's still kind of around, like officially in MomTalk yet. Jen is in Arizona because Zach is still ⁓ possibly gonna go medical school, so they're like waiting it out there to see. ⁓ One thing that had brought up was that he was asking her like how she felt about like the girls and everything, and she was like kinda like hopeful that she could get back into mom talk, and he's like. doesn't seem too happy about that. Like he wants her to move on. ⁓ So anyway, the the birthday party for Layla, she's talking about who's all invited. And I guess she had said that Kate and Chase are invited. Yeah. And all the girls are kind of upset by this. with all the drama that happened with him previously. And then it turns out that he's got a podcast where he just like rips on mom talk and secret lives. he talks shit ⁓ on hair studio, talks shit on Taylor and her issues. ⁓ You said that he had said that the only reason Macy has a following is because her baby daddy died. Yeah. Like this. The two guys, I think one's his brother and one's a friend or something. The two guys that like were in that clip were like, well, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're good with that. Yeah, that's that's really shitty. So out in Salt Lake City for the birthday party, the girls are having dinner at a restaurant, all the guys are across the street, and then they're gonna meet up later and go to, ⁓ guess, this event, this party. before the party, Macy and Michaela meet up with Jesse and Jesse tells them what's going on with the whole Marciano thing before they head out to Salt Lake City. they're just like kind of blown away by it. Jesse was like crying and I don't know if it was Macy or Michaela, they were like, we've never seen her cry before, like she's tough. so they're like, you know, we trust you, ⁓ we'll be there you. ⁓ Meanwhile, Jordan's just telling everybody. Yeah, it seems like that. It seems like he's like scheduling appointments with people to like ⁓ tell people that emasculated. Right, right, new word for the dictionary. And then ⁓ somehow. Demi found out or texted, Brett drove by the house, which Jordan told him, like he had to have. I don't see any other. Jordan's just telling everybody. Besides Layla. Yeah, and she can be kind of. She would be the only, it's either Layla or Jordan. Yeah. So anyway, they're at the dinner. ⁓ shows up. Everybody's pissed. think Michaela leaves. Macy leaves. Macy leaves. ⁓ Michaela's like, I guess I got to wait for Jessie. ⁓ right. Because she brought Jessie or something or Well, the Jordan left in the middle. Yeah. So then I guess there was lot going on. Jessie was talking to some people and wasn't there for Jordan. So then he got upset and left. And then that was the end of the episode. Anything that I missed? All right, so we're jumping into episode two of season three of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It's called The Book of Fidelity. OK. We start with Makayla and Macy and they are trying on dresses for Makayla's 25th party, which will be an elevated St. Patrick's Day themed. Okay, nice. So we just celebrated Layla's 24th. Now we're rolling into Makayla's 25th birthday party. I feel like it's just constant, like, wasn't there a party for Layla in season one? Season. two and it was followed. ⁓ yeah. then it was followed by because Leila got divorced and that was a divorce for her. Then her birthday. She had multiple parties in one season and then Michaela's like so they all have birthdays very close to one. OK. And then Taylor. had ever right around Michaela's birthday last season. OK. So ever is turning one right now. OK. So it's been like a full year since Whitney's crashed Michaela's birthday party. ⁓ right. Right. Remember when she came in? That was the roller rink. Yeah. OK. So now she's doing an elevated St. Patrick's Day themed. And she says that she doesn't think that Whitney will crash this party. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess. So Layla texted the girls after her birthday party to address the whole Chase situation. But Makayla says that she didn't respond to that right now because she just wasn't ready to address it. She said she did, however, respond to Layla's happy birthday text to her. So I guess her birthday, her actual birthday has already happened and her party is coming up. OK. A producer asked Michaela if she would rather have Whitney or Chase at her party, and she says neither. She says she doesn't think Whitney will be crashing this party this year. And it's weird enough that her and to me have been making together. OK, she says that she prays that kind of friendship will ever find her in this lifetime. ⁓ Which is funny because the clip that they showed of Whitney and Demi was them being like obsessed with one another and like fake making out with one another. And I don't know if that's why her and Macy make those types of TikToks now. Oh, OK. They make those types. So I don't know if they're making fun of those TikToks from the past. Right, right. But it seems like they're making fun of people calling them like lesbians together. OK. Which is probably what they were doing to Whitney and Demi being like, why do you like, you know? So like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of found it humorous seeing that. that TikTok that they showed and then her saying, I pray that kind of friendship never finds me. I'm like, that is what your friendship is with Macy now. okay. Jessie was supposed to go dress shopping with them, but didn't show, so Macy tried calling her, but it goes straight to voicemail and the girls get very concerned because her phone is never off and it's very unlike her. Okay. And after this, we go to the intro. Following the intro, at Jesse's house. ⁓ OK, so the girls before ⁓ were concerned. Where's Jesse intro? Jesse's OK. ⁓ You hear just the audio of Jesse and Jordan's conversation and Jordan goes, I've been trying to be respectful towards you even at times when you might not deserve it. I've taken six months of my life going through hell and back. Okay. And Jesse says, yeah, and treating me like shit. And Jordan says, yeah, treating you like shit. And guess what? It's because you're numb and I don't feel like you feel bad for what you did. Jessie says, I do feel bad. I was a cheater. I did do it. And Jordan goes, yeah, you did do it. Jessie goes, you're pushing me away and not like saying like, you're not allowing us to work on this. And Jordan goes, yeah, and it's all justified. I think I'm done having this conversation. OK. And that's the end of what you hear between the two of them. All right. While this is happening, you see Jesse's two sisters and her mom downstairs kind of like pacing near the stairs, kind of like listening to what's happening. ⁓ So Jesse's sister and mom, like she asked them to come over because she knew kind of like what was happening and it was like really bad. So she had come over to grab some of her stuff and that was going to her mom's house. Meanwhile, Jordan starts packing his bags and he's going to stay at his parents' house. OK. For the meantime. They've decided to separate. For real. OK, they're going there separate ways for 90 days. This comes out later than 90 day thing. But in this scene, he's leaving and then she's going to go get the kids and then go back to the house and figure it out. OK. In an interview, he says having to tell his family what has happened has been hell, and it makes him question if more has happened. Jessie's mom's house, Jessie says Jordan is staying at his parents' house so she'll have to get the kids and go home. Jesse says that the fight that they had right after Leila's birthday, so this is when Jordan said that he felt emotionally abandoned by his and then left? Yeah. Yeah. That it was like the worst fight that they had ever had. Jordan said in that fight that he didn't think that it could ever work out, and then they decided to separate at that point. OK. Jesse's mom tells her that she's doing the right thing and Jesse tells her family that their marriage was getting so bad and instead of doing what she did, she should have separated from Jordan six months ago. So she's saying, like, at this point, we already had issues. I should have just pulled the plug at that point and we should have gone through what we're going through now. Then I made a stupid decision. I cheated on my husband, but like it was already in this bad place. And her mom says you should have done this a few years ago. ⁓ geez. So her family, like, is already like this was a bad situation. Time to move on. Yeah. And her sister says that they haven't seen the Jesse that they love in a very long time. ⁓ wow. OK. So they're all very supportive of her. And they're not saying like, hey, what you did is like, OK. But they're like, listen, like, you should have left a long, time ago. Right. Right. OK. A producer asked Jessie what she means by it got really bad and Jessie hesitates and says it's tricky because they do have children together and she doesn't want to say anything where it could be misconstrued in the future. Like they hold ill will against right. Either parent. Right. She does say that it did get to the point where it probably could be considered emotional abuse, name calling, talking down to one another threats. She said it was every single day that they were and there wasn't a single day where they got along. Oh, jeez. Wow. And at that point, like, I think your kids, even young, probably understood. Yeah, they catch on to that bad it was. So. They can sense that. Yeah. Yeah. That ends the Jesse stuff for right now. OK. So it goes to a coffee shop where Taylor is meeting Dakota. So this is her first, I guess, on screen outing back since being at her retreat. Taylor says she's now home from her therapy retreat and she said her trip was very exhausting and they did a lot of work. They basically condensed months of therapy into... two week, like 11 day like session. OK, which was really difficult, but much needed. OK. And she does say that Dakota did go to the retreat for a day for a couple therapy with a psych therapist the goal ⁓ healthy co-parenting and focusing on healing individually. OK, that's good. So Taylor. ⁓ Asked Dakota how things have been since she's been away and Dakota appreciated having the one on one time with ever and he feels like he got a lot of bonding time with him and they show a couple clips, TikToks of him with ever and like it was really cute. Um, Taylor does bring up ever's first birthday and they do decide to do a joint party together because I think that would be nice. And they also talk about mediation. Um, Dakota doesn't know like how mediation works. So he's like hesitant cause he's like, I would like to do 50 50, and Taylor's like, well, can your job accommodate that? And he's like, well, no. And that's why like, I don't know. And she's like, well, we can figure something out and then like put in, mediation, like we'll try this for a year. And then if it doesn't work we can like retalk about it, and he's like okay I don't know how that works so it does seem like they're having healthier conversations about all this and it's more focused about ever than like Them so that seems good. then they're bullshit. Yeah, that's good. though we kind of know where that heads later on. I have no idea. You're just here in season three. Yes you do. And then after all of the catch up about Ever and themselves, Taylor does ask how everyone else in the group is doing and Dakota does tell Taylor about Jordan and Jessie and Taylor cannot believe it. She literally goes. No, there's no way like she didn't. like she like immediately goes to like that's that's a lie. Like whoever's thinking that, like thinking that Jesse's like probably freaking out and it is a lie. And he's like, no, like it's true. Like like a portion of this is true. Jesse's is admitting to it. And so Taylor says that she is shocked. And she says in an interview that all she can do is think back to all the conversations that Jesse and her had about Jen and Zach and just how judgmental Jesse seemed about their situation. ⁓ right. Right. She meanwhile, you have this happening behind you. Yeah. So Taylor's just kind of mind blown by all of that. We go to Michaela's birthday. So Michaela's birthday is at this like. castle, chateau, snow in the ground. There's dancers outside. Like they're doing the jig. Yeah. ⁓ And so it seems extravaganza, to say the I'm like, my God. By twenty, that did not look like that. I did go to I did go to Utah for my ⁓ birthday by myself. I did go to Salt Lake City then Park City. ⁓ I spent the weekend at like this resort and it was the weekend before the ski resorts opened. Right. So I got like this major discount because no one wants to travel the week before ski resorts. Right. ⁓ And it was a really nice time, but I spent my 25th not at a castle. Yeah, no Irish dancers. Sorry. So Miranda shows up and she says that she's thankful that Michaela did invite her to the party, but she's kind of on edge because the girls do think that she is the mole in the group. ⁓ OK. She says that even though she's still friends with to me, she doesn't tell her anything that's been going on in the group. And she says and it kind of like gave me the vibes that she's like, honestly, I don't really know what's going on. Right. Right. Jordan shows up separately from Jesse and it turns out that they are in couples therapy and they decided to do this 90 day separation. So Jordan goes to the bar, asks for a water and Jacob's over there and Jacob asks how Jordan is doing. He says that he doesn't really know. Like he kind of leaves, he's like, I don't really know. Kind of just over in La La Land. Layla shows up and she decided to bring a friend with her to Michaela's birthday because she felt like there was still tension brewing from her birthday party and she hasn't really talked to the girls. Michaela says in like a separate group, I wasn't expecting her to bring someone. I didn't give her a plus one, but it's fine. she was like, I wasn't, there's like, she like basically said. There's some unfamiliar faces to me here. Yeah. didn't give her a plus one. Like so like she was kind of like salty about it. And at that point, like Layla, not like she didn't hear that, but she's talking to her friend. Her friend's like, you should go talk to them. And like, yeah, I think I need to. So Layla does get up and decides to pull them aside to have a conversation. And Layla does apologize. She starts off with saying, like, I apologize for how heated I got and I lost my cool for sure. And she acknowledge that she could have given them a heads up that Chase was going to be there at the party. She says, but I do feel like my feelings about him coming weren't heard and my opinion was shut down pretty quickly. And so all the girls do acknowledge that that was kind of shitty and like they appreciate that. Let's try to have it like more of a voice and yeah, yeah, some backup. So all of them do kind of acknowledge like there could have been better things from all of them done in that situation. Right. And Michaela goes, this is a common theme in our friendship. And Maisie interrupts and goes, toxic men? And Michaela's like, no, well that too, but like miscommunication. And they're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But immediately like Maisie was like, yeah, toxic men, my God, that's a theme. Afterwards, they film like a silly. So Miranda comes out after they're done talking. They all film like a silly TikTok, like them trying to Irish dance together. And then like they come inside. At that point, Jesse brings up that Jen and Zach actually went to Chippendales together. What? ⁓ Yeah. OK. It clips of like. them on stage making content like Zach's on stage with them making content. interesting. Jen's on stage being rolled around in a chair like they were at Chippendales. Okay. Jessie says that she hopes that maybe Zach has finally been able to put all this behind him. And when she does finally see and talk to Jen, they do have a lot to talk about. But this has been one thing that's been put back on the list because she doesn't feel like it was fair that they got so much shit for the exposure therapy. And then they're on TikToks. Like one of their TikToks was like exposure therapy round two, like quote unquote. So like they're kind of making light of it, but like that's like the point of contention with her and like Jen. Like, yeah, the fact that like Jessie and Jen haven't been able to move on from just Chippendales at her house and then they go and do this like, OK, so they should be able to move on from that. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I get that. But like they're doing this on their own terms. Like they went together. Yeah. Like they didn't have some weird ass surprise. Like it's just a show at some. It's just weird that they went from like not even just going to the show. Like he's like. meeting the guys and she's on stage and they're dancing on her and that was his big problem. Like, yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I get her point. It's like. we can't talk this out and we're going to have a screwing match, but then you like turn around and do this with your husband. Like, I don't know. It's weird. Yeah, I don't know. I mean. Yeah. So separately, Jessie tells the girls that she's been thinking of ways that she could prove Marciano wrong, that they had intercourse. Okay. She says that she went through all of their texts and found five or six that him. Okay. Jessie starts reading the texts to the girls. ⁓ right. They're at the party. OK, Jordan is at the party. Yeah, yeah. Jordan, at one point, is literally two feet behind Jesse as she's reading. OK, that's a bit weird. Keep this in mind. Yeah. First one is about him calling her a mom and because she is his sugar mama, he tells her he can't stop thinking about her vagina. and that he fucked up and wants redemption. OK. Michaela in an interview says she's so uncomfortable right now. And she says Jesse seems like so excited to clear her name with these texts, but they're a little like kinky and gross. Yeah, yeah. The second one was Marciano asking Jesse she thinks she can handle him. So she goes, I'm not sure, I want to find out. And he goes, so you think you're ready to dive into the deep end? And she goes, well, what do you mean by that? And he goes, I'm no kiddie pool if you get what I'm saying. And she says, damn, no wonder you needed that little pill. Because he had to take a pill to get his thing up. So all of this she's thinking is like, Okay, they haven't done it yet and they're still like teasing like, yeah, I find out. Layla says it's weird that Jesse is sharing all this with Jordan like right behind her. At one point, Jordan walks behind her and like looks at her phone. OK, so like he can hear all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesse says the most damning text was this. Yeah, so far, like I haven't read anything or heard anything that's been like, man, I wish we had sex like this sounds like building up to. two people about to have sex. So I can only imagine what this next one is. So he says, I wanna find out. And she goes one day. And he goes, I know I'm very much looking forward to it, LOL. And she goes, ⁓ same here. And he goes, I would be lying if I said I wasn't about your most recent surgery as well. Definitely wanna try it out. ⁓ all That was in reference to her. tightening of her vagina. Her labiaplasty. Her labiaplasty. Yeah. OK, so all right. At that point, at that message, yes, they have not had sex. So Macy says as uncomfortable as going through these texts are, it is to her proving Jesse's innocence. Innocence is a. Innocence as in like they didn't have sex. Okay. Yeah. She has admitted to like, cause the whole thing with them is like, are you lying? Like if you're lying, I can't support you. Right. We're not going to support liar. So, you know, you and your husband have already had these conversations about up till that. So like you have been working through this separately of the kissing, the emotional infidelity, all this like, but like the whole like lie of it is like what they're trying to get to. Okay. And so she says as mom talk, they need to get to the bottom of this for her. So Macy is full on, you know what? These texts are weird. I wouldn't read these at this point, but like, hey, to me, they're proving a point. Right, right. Okay. So this cuts back to Jen and Zach and they're back in Utah for the next couple of weeks. She says that they're moving back so she can be closer with her midwife. Jen says that her Taylor and Layla have a beauty event coming up. She says that besides Taylor, she hasn't really talked to any of the girls. Okay. Zach says he's excited to be back in Utah, but he's nervous about Jen being back in MomTalk. He says no matter what he does, the girls will always have an opinion about him. and he just wants Jen be supported the way that she deserves. ⁓ okay. So ⁓ they're still to figure out. Yeah. we go to Macy's house. Michaela and Jace are coming over ⁓ and Macy wants get to the bottom of this whole Marciano situation. She says that Jace and Jacob are just as invested this because they're friends with Jordan. ⁓ OK. As girls are. OK. ⁓ So they're all kind of like scheming together to be like, what's actually happening? Can we like help both of our friends out because you know, they're in this limbo. So. Jacob tells the girls that he spoke with Jordan at the birthday party and Michaela says she's gonna message Marciano so her and Macy can meet up with him. Jase at this point, which is Michaela's husband, is like, where does he live? Like, is this gonna work? Like, you know, like he's kind of skeptical and I guess he lives in Vegas. Jase says is it this important that you guys drive down there to meet up with him? And Michaela goes 100 percent. ⁓ So is like all in and Jason's like, what the hell are you guys getting yourself signed up? Yeah. They then start looking up different interrogation tactics. OK, ⁓ so says the first one is to build trust ⁓ and decides that she's going to. ⁓ try to build trust by telling him that she's really into his DJ videos. And then they show a couple of TikToks of him like with his DJ videos. And he's like, it's like lights going and he's like shirtless. And it's like really funny. And they're all dying after this. The second one is to invade his space and then he goes, ⁓ I don't want to do that. And then the third one is to confront him with evidence. So they decide to ask Jesse for like all the screenshots of the text. or whatnot. ⁓ OK. Yeah. So at that point, Jacob suggests that they starve him to. And so Macy goes, I'm not even going to let him have water. ⁓ they then role ⁓ and Jase is Marciano. And on the screen, they write J.C. Ono ⁓ as his name. And Michaela and Macy like start interrogating them and they're like, so did you have, he's like, I don't know what you're talking. And then like, he's trying to like talk in an accident and they're like, what the hell? like put a spotlight on him at one point. It was really funny. After that, they show the clip of Michaela and Macy leaving to drive the two and a half hours to meet up with Marciano. So they did. decide to not go all the way to Vegas and they decided to meet him in like Beaver, Utah, which is two and a half hours, like in between Vegas and like where they are. Interesting, okay. So they start their road trip and they say that Jesse did give them the blessing to go talk with him. Okay. So they did like clear this with her. They make at this point like three stops for snacks and two stops for paying. And Michaela ends up having to like pee on the side of the road. And they're like showing all these clips. It was really funny because they're both pregnant at this point. OK, so they're trying to do like a two and a half hour drive. Yeah. That's like six months pregnant. One them's like a little less than six. I don't know. Not six months, but like one of them like they're both pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. cut to Jessie, who's going to a therapy session by herself. And she says that she's still trying to work on herself in the meantime, because she explained that she knows that she needs to work on herself before all this becomes public, because she can only imagine the comments she's going to get. And she's not in a good mental space to kind of handle that at this point. OK, so she's kind of preparing for the worst at this point. She tells the therapist about how she's never felt good enough and she feels like she was with someone who took advantage of that, ⁓ talking about Jordan. So she's like, he kind of exploited that part of me. ⁓ And never really built her up. he was always there to tear her down. ⁓ The therapist asks If she's currently in the state of self grace or self shame when it comes to infidelity. And Jesse says that the first two days that she like had to admit to it and deal with it and like live in it, she. It was like very hard and she admitted that she didn't even feel like she deserved to have water. She felt thirsty at that time. ⁓ geez. Because she didn't think that she deserved anything that would give her like any sort of satisfaction. OK. Jessie does tell the therapist that her relationship with Demi wasn't much better than her relationship with Jordan, because if she did go against anything Demi said, Demi would talk down to her and make her feel dumb. So she always kind of felt like Demi was like on this pedestal and was always right. Kind of like the way she felt Jordan was. So her friendship with her while she thought it was a good friendship, like now she's realizing like was very bad. Yeah. The therapist then asks Jessie, like, what do you like about yourself? And follows it up with what do you like about yourself physically? Because when the therapist initially asked, what do you like about yourself? She goes, you know, I'm the first person that would give my shirt off my back, would let you live with me if you needed help. and she's like, while I love that about myself, I also hate that about myself because then I get taken advantage of. Right, yeah, absolutely. So then the therapist goes, well, what do you physically like about yourself? And Jessie says nothing. She goes, I don't like anything physically about myself. She admits that the comments online to her, ⁓ it shows screenshots of comments from her page calling her a man, ugly, mentally unstable, et cetera. ⁓ gosh. OK. I mean, people can be like really ruthless. Yeah, I mean, that's the Internet. mean, people are just assholes on the Internet. So and she admits that it's led to her getting surgeries done that she necessarily didn't feel like she. Yeah. Probably needed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when it comes to the Internet, you got to just brush that shit off. But like if that's how you are, then some people can't handle that. So unfortunately, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah, maybe she shouldn't be on reality TV. Okay, let's sever down. Maybe people shouldn't be shit heads. Yeah, that too. Like, imagine if we like got big. The comments that people make about me is like crazy. They'd be like, you guys are fucking stupid. Yeah. I'd be like, I don't care. Like you just you don't even respond to that. Like you just let it go. I think it gets to a certain point, though. Like and also like. Why are you on their page and why are you commenting on it? They just move on. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but it's just some like. But to blame her. for just posting and like existing and living. Yeah. Yeah. And to post these People have nothing better to do with their lives. Yeah. But like it's not like it's the person's fault that's posting it, not like that's posting the mean comments, not the person that's posting. No, absolutely. But like you just brush, you just let it go because that is some. Yeah, easier said than done. Somebody living in like their parents' basement. It's easier said than done. It's like when. like the Olympics are on and people are watching and it's like, ⁓ my God, you couldn't pull off that like flip. And it's like some fat guy eating chips on his couch who's never done anything in his life athletic. And it's like this guy, like that's who's judging you. I feel like we're way off topic So I don't know where you ended, but got to pick it back up. So we cut back to Macy and Michaela and they pull up to this like campground in Beaver, Utah to meet Marciano. OK. And on the screen it says, so this is a two hour drive, two and a half hour drive on the screen. It says five hours later, six P breaks and four snack stops later. The girls are nervous that he is not going to show up. But Makayla thinks that he is a clout chaser from when she met him in the villa. I kind of got that vibe. the fact that he knows cameras will be here. ⁓ yeah, he's to be on TV. Yeah, for sure. He thinks that. Yeah. They go into this dinky little restaurant and they're trying to figure out what to order. And then Marciano shows up. OK. Michaela says, I think he's gotten a lot more Botox since I saw him last. He's very shiny. she says that he gives ⁓ like a very gross energy to her. Okay. Macy tells Marciano that all they want to do is hear his side of the story. They feel like they know the truth, but they want to hear it from him. So she kind of goes, I think I know the truth, but like you need to tell me. Yeah. They ask Marciano if him and Demi ever did kiss in Italy. that's the first, which threw me off because I'm like, I thought we already squashed it to me. Yeah, yeah. Stuff. But I guess maybe there's still some lingering questions about that. OK. So at first he's hesitant and then he says that he doesn't want to start a war. And they tell him that he's starting a bigger war by saying that he slept with Jesse. Yeah. And then they ask him again, did you kiss to me? He says, fuck it. Yes, it happened. And it was off camera at the villa. Okay. They then jumped to Jesse. they ask So you said you slept with Jesse. Like, why did you know? Layla said that you said that. Yeah. Marciona explains that he spent the night in Jesse's room. And when he woke up, Jesse asked him to leave because Jordan was trying to FaceTime her. And they both like nod like, yeah, Jesse told us that. OK, this is a line. ⁓ Michaela asked, like, were you fully clothed? And he goes, no, I was just in my boxers. And then Michaela asks about them sleeping together. Yeah. The what he told Leila. She asked if it was just his memory of it. And he says he probably shouldn't have said that. And he's going to look like a liar. But that's OK. OK. And Michaela goes, so you didn't sleep together. And Marciano says no. Oh, OK. They then ask him, why would you lie about that? and Marciono says he felt like he was being influenced. When they ask him by who, he says, to me. What? Okay. And then it ends with Michaela asking, so did me tell you to say that you slept with Jessie? That's it? That's the end? We don't get his answer? That's the end. We'll find out. Wow. The suspense. Yeah. Yeah. Leaving you on the So Demi's in on this. Apparently, which would make sense of like, if, OK, so spitballing because we started with like, Leila might be the mole. Yeah. Yeah. What if Demi is the own mole because Marciano, like say Jesse's still talking with Marciano. And she goes, ⁓ I'm going to tell Macy and Makayla about what happened today, but like you need to come true about it. And then he goes and tells Demi like, hey, she's telling Macy and Makayla what are we going to do? And then, you know, all this stuff like maybe there's like this more internal network that like they're not even thinking about because Marciano has been influenced by Demi. Wow, crazy. And I do know because this isn't even on a season. Demi and Marciano are in lawsuits with one another about like cease and desist and defamation. Yeah, yeah. So like they've been going back and forth about all this. And Demi even tried to sue the production company of Secret Life of Mormon Wives and all this. yeah, so so we just ended. Marciano did. Sorry, Marciano. Sorry. Turned it on the production company between Demi and Secret Life of Mormon Wives. Wow. I think. I don't know. Anyway, there's lawsuits flying around. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the end. That's the end. Yeah, there's nothing more. Man. OK. All right. I guess we'll have to wait till next week. Man. Now you left me on a cliffhanger here. Yeah. I mean, I haven't even started watching it, so I don't even know. Geez. OK. Well, I guess we'll figure it out next week. It did cut to a look ahead for next week. And Demi is back on camera. OK, so we do see her interaction with Layla. There's some fighting going on. OK, Layla calls her out like I know you did. Yeah, yeah. So all right. Demi is like leaving and she goes, I'm going to go on a Facebook live and expose Jesse for all she did because season two hadn't come out yet. So she's like at that point of recording for season three. Yeah. Season two hadn't come out yet. So when Demi is leaving, she goes, I'm going to go on a live and like tell everyone what Jesse did to get like ahead of all this. Right. Right. And so like, yeah. So like, we'll see more of that. But like, Laila is like, what a fucking like crazy psycho. And so, yeah, we do see that. OK. All right. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thanks for listening, everybody. On that note. Yeah, I guess we'll pick it up next week. Be sure to follow us on Instagram, at reality hits Matt. It's reality hits M-A-T, just one T and Matt. Same on TikTok, at reality hits Matt. want to shoot us an email, have any questions, comments, maybe something that we don't know that we missed. ⁓ During some of these episodes, there's a lot going on. 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