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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Friday the 10th of October
- 0:102025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
- 0:13I'm your host, Mike Robinson, joining me in the studio today,
- 0:15Patrick Henningson. Welcome to the program, Patrick.
- 0:17Great to be with you, Mike. And Mark Anderson will join us
- 0:20in a little bit and we have a special guest we will we'll
- 0:24introduce shortly. But we're going to begin today,
- 0:27Patrick, with the the peace plan.
- 0:29This is the big story, isn't Mike?
- 0:31And this is the the meeting of the minds here or the meeting of
- 0:35something else. These three likely lads here.
- 0:39I mean, look at this, Benjamin Netanyahu, Steve Witkoff, Jared
- 0:42Kushner, Donald Trump wasn't there to really do the deal, but
- 0:46he is there in spirit as you can see on the back wall.
- 0:49But that's Netanyahu with his his trusted cabinet there, which
- 0:53he hand picked by the way he hand picked those two people in
- 0:57the Trump cabinet. Is it a ceasefire deal, Mike?
- 1:00Is it if they're already celebrating peace in the Middle
- 1:02East? What's going on there?
- 1:04Well, take a close look. If you know how this one's going
- 1:06to go, take a close look at that gentleman there, that Steve
- 1:09Witkoff. We like to call him the Dell boy
- 1:12of diplomacy. So we took a little the Dell boy
- 1:18of diplomacy. That makes Jared Rodney, doesn't
- 1:20it? Yes, it does.
- 1:21We don't want to insult Rodney, though, do we?
- 1:23And I'm I'm almost to feel like I'm insulting David Jason with
- 1:26that comparison, Mike. But that's kind of what we are
- 1:30are going to expect because these are con men of the highest
- 1:32order. Every single ceasefire has been
- 1:35a strategic pause to rearm Israel and continue the bombing,
- 1:40just like from the beginning of Trump's term.
- 1:42Let's take a look at Donald Trump.
- 1:43This is what he had to say about this historic deal.
- 1:49I think it's going to be a lasting peace, hopefully, and
- 1:52everlasting peace, peace in the Middle East.
- 1:55We secured the release of all of the remaining hostages and they
- 1:58should be released on Monday or Tuesday.
- 2:00And getting them is a complicated process.
- 2:04I'd rather not tell you what they have to do to get them.
- 2:07There are places you don't want to be.
- 2:10But we are getting the hostages back on on Tuesday, Monday or
- 2:15Tuesday and that'll be a day of joy.
- 2:18I'm going to try and make a trip over.
- 2:21We're going to try and get over there and we're working on the
- 2:25timing, the exact timing. We're going to go to Egypt where
- 2:30we'll have a signing, an additional signing.
- 2:32We've already had a signing representing me, but we're going
- 2:36to have an official signing. So, Mike, they, they don't have
- 2:41the timings. They haven't confirmed, maybe
- 2:43Monday, maybe Tuesday, they haven't confirmed the names.
- 2:46Israel hasn't agreed on the names of the Palestinians being
- 2:51released, including some high profile people we'll speak
- 2:53about, speak about in a moment. And, and so, yeah, but it's all
- 2:57about the signing. It's going to be, it's historic.
- 2:59There's peace in the Middle East.
- 3:01They're already celebrating on Fox News in America.
- 3:03Just finally there's peace in the Middle East.
- 3:05Nothing's actually happened yet. Nothing has actually happened.
- 3:10In fact, Israeli tanks opened fire on Palestinians celebrating
- 3:14the ceasefire just last night. That was the opening gambit from
- 3:18Israel is to basically shoot Palestinians.
- 3:20We're celebrating that the war's over.
- 3:22Well, I guess it's not over then, but, well, we'll see.
- 3:25Well, it's really said that they had held a defence cabinet and
- 3:29then a full cabinet before they agreed this thing.
- 3:32But let's just have a look here at what Keir Starmer had to say
- 3:36because this was this was his words.
- 3:39I welcome the news that the deal has been reached on the first
- 3:42stage of President Trump's peace plan for Gaza.
- 3:46And he then lauded the efforts of western aligned countries in
- 3:50the region for stepping up and and helping get this over the
- 3:54line. But he said that this agreement
- 3:57must now be implemented in full without delay and accompanied by
- 4:00the immediate lifting of all restrictions on life saving
- 4:03humanitarian aid to Gaza. Well, that may be his position.
- 4:08But while the various meetings were going on, Israel wasn't
- 4:12holding back. And as we can see here as well,
- 4:15first of all, as reported by Resistance Use Network from the
- 4:18Palestinian side and also in the Israeli media here, multiple
- 4:22attacks on Gaza were carried out in the run up to the ceasefire.
- 4:26Because why get into the spirit of what's being done when
- 4:29there's an opportunity to kill a few more people before the
- 4:32deadline, Patrick? Yes, exactly.
- 4:34Right, so, so let's just have a look at what the Resistance News
- 4:37Network said here. Now at 2:00 AM, the displaced
- 4:40people of Gaza are cautiously celebrating and crying tears of
- 4:42joy at shelters and hospitals in light of the news of a ceasefire
- 4:46deal. The IOF continues to bomb the
- 4:49Gaza Strip at this time, particularly cyber neighborhoods
- 4:51South of Gaza City, while drones are flying low over Muazi.
- 4:55Explosions rock Gaza City now, but the Times of Israel here was
- 5:01claiming that the idea of hopes to complete its withdrawal by
- 5:03noon starting 72 countdown, 72 hour countdown.
- 5:08Sorry to free the hostages. I don't know what your thoughts
- 5:11are on that. Well, I mean it again, the
- 5:14timing hasn't been confirmed yet.
- 5:16So when is the swap going to happen?
- 5:18That was a problem in the last agreements and Israel basically
- 5:22deep sixed every single one of these agreements in the past.
- 5:25There's a 0% success rate and they always come up with some
- 5:29excuse or they try to blame Hamas.
- 5:31So clearly the Palestinians are willing to take a step to make a
- 5:35deal. But I'm, I'm going to say
- 5:36cautiously, Mike, that at best this is a temporary, but perhaps
- 5:40ceasefire temporary. It's this not, it's not a peace
- 5:43plan. It's not a peace deal.
- 5:45But by the same token, Mike, we need to be also sensitive to the
- 5:49fact that I will not deny any Palestinian the respite of not
- 5:53having to be bombed for at least 24 hours, 48 hours, maybe a
- 5:56week, maybe a month. I will not deny them that, even
- 6:00though I'm a total skeptic about the sincerity of the Americans
- 6:03and the Israelis on this. Well, let's get an idea perhaps
- 6:07of the sincerity of the Israelis in this because here's Channel
- 6:107. I guess this is Israel national
- 6:12news. I just want to quote a little
- 6:15bit from this because they say the names of the four terror
- 6:18aces that Hamas demanded as part of the deal, Marwan Bargaty and
- 6:23and three others were removed from the list of terrorists who
- 6:26were said to be released under the ceasefire agreement that
- 6:29went into effect early Friday morning.
- 6:31Now, before I go on with the quote here, .5 F of the
- 6:36implementation steps for President Trump's proposal for
- 6:40the the end of the Gaza war, which was signed, as you said,
- 6:45said. And I quote, as Hamas releases
- 6:47all the hostages, Israel were released in parallel the
- 6:49corresponding number of Palestinian prisoners as per the
- 6:53attached lists. And Barghodi's name was on that
- 6:56list and that was approved by, amongst others, Witkoff.
- 7:01And today, as we mentioned, the phrase employed by the Israeli
- 7:06government was and quote, at this point in time, he will not
- 7:10be part of the release process. And that quote goes on to say as
- 7:13Hamas releases all the hostages, Israel will release in parallel
- 7:17the corresponding number of parallel prisoners.
- 7:20But they're they're not adhering to the terms that were signed.
- 7:24So where does that leave the agreement?
- 7:26So that they already told basically the Americans to get
- 7:29stuffed will decide who's going to be on the list.
- 7:31So they've already basically gone bad on their own sort of
- 7:35side of the agreement. So that's Israeli opening
- 7:38gambit. Marwan Barghouti.
- 7:40To call him a terrorist ace or terrorist mastermind is patently
- 7:44ridiculous. These are practically elderly
- 7:46men by this point. They've been sentenced to life
- 7:49in prison and their main crime is their potential political
- 7:52leaders of of a Palestinian state that is their chief crime.
- 7:55So all of these people will either be assassinated or put in
- 7:59prison until they die. That is the Israeli policy and
- 8:02that's how they keep it Palestine down and and always
- 8:05have the excuse to say we don't have a negotiating partner says,
- 8:09says Netanyahu. Yeah, because you killed them
- 8:11all or they're in prison. So I mean this, this, this goes
- 8:15to show you what a farce this whole thing has been really for
- 8:18the last 40 years, the whole. And in fact, wasn't a couple of
- 8:21months ago that Ben Kaferi went to at him in prison and was
- 8:24basically gloating effectively, you're never getting out and you
- 8:28know, we will destroy the lot of you sort of thing was what he
- 8:31was doing at the time. It was pretty unpleasant.
- 8:34The defense minister, yes, Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
- 8:37Pretty incredible stuff, Mike. But we can talk more about this
- 8:41ceasefire with our next guest at the end.
- 8:43Well, maybe you'll ask her her opinion, but I want to welcome
- 8:46on to the program Yara Mardarelli.
- 8:49She's a journalist. She is also a crew member on the
- 8:53Global Summit Flotilla will put their their X account up here on
- 8:58screen so people can see it. I encourage everyone to fall.
- 9:01They've got a lot of followers in the last week.
- 9:04And this is the main flotilla that had over 40 boats that
- 9:07tried to break the siege in Gaza.
- 9:10And Yara, who we have on the line right now, she is one of
- 9:13those crew members who is just, she's recently been released and
- 9:16allowed to come home. She's going to talk briefly with
- 9:19us with the UK column about her experience.
- 9:22Welcome to the program, Yara. Hi, thank you for having me.
- 9:27It's a real pleasure to see you and of course everyone's very
- 9:29happy to see that you're well as well as your your crew mates and
- 9:32your comrades on that incredible mission, very important mission.
- 9:37But just to get started, for those people who don't know you,
- 9:40Yara, how did you get involved in the Global Summit Flotilla
- 9:44and and what is the Global Summit Flotilla?
- 9:48So the Global Sumud Flotilla is a coalition of the Freedom
- 9:51Flotilla. The Sumud convoy, which parallel
- 9:56to the Global March to Gaza, were both attempting to March to
- 10:00the Rafa crossing and I was part of the Global March to Gaza.
- 10:05After we were sabotaged by the Egyptian secret police via
- 10:10Israel, we attempted to break the siege by sea.
- 10:15And so we reconvened in Tunisia and started organizing and I
- 10:20quickly kind of became a Co head of of communications at the
- 10:25Global Summit Flotilla and part of the organizing committee.
- 10:29And so tell, tell us about this journey yard.
- 10:31How you know, when did you disembark?
- 10:34I know there was a huge gathering in, in in Barcelona,
- 10:37in Spain, but boats came from all over the Mediterranean.
- 10:41How did it start? How long was the journey?
- 10:44Just tell us briefly about how how how your experience with
- 10:47that. So we were at sea for around a
- 10:51month. Of course we had.
- 10:52We started out with around 70 plus boats on the journey.
- 10:56Of course some had failures, couldn't continue for different,
- 11:00different reasons and we ended up with 42 boats in total.
- 11:04We departed from the port in Barcelona with around 20 plus
- 11:08boats and then on the first leg of the journey headed to
- 11:12Tunisia. In Tunisia we were as many might
- 11:16have as many who might have followed along.
- 11:18We were we were attacked for the first time by Israel.
- 11:22My lead boat, which was the Alma was drone struck one day after
- 11:27the family boat was drone struck.
- 11:30And those were the large, the large ships that were kind of
- 11:33the mother boats riding fuel to all the smaller vessels.
- 11:37And so we were at risk of attack.
- 11:40We were attacked once in Tunisia.
- 11:42And subsequently then we were attacked by 15 drones which
- 11:47exploded above people's heads on the sailing boats in close to
- 11:52Greek territorial waters just a few days after we left Tunisia.
- 11:58And these were intimidation and fear tactics employed by Israel,
- 12:04of course, to scare us, to scare participants out of the mission,
- 12:08but they didn't work. We continued sailing and and
- 12:12then we were of course, as, as people know, intercepted,
- 12:15illegally kidnapped in international waters around 17
- 12:19miles from from the shores of Gaza.
- 12:22And, and Jara, there there was the reports that Italy, Spain,
- 12:26Greece had deployed naval vessels to escort to support you
- 12:31Turkey as well. What, what was the truth behind
- 12:34that? Because how much help were they
- 12:36giving you out of those countries?
- 12:39Were any of them better than others?
- 12:41What what? What are your thoughts on on
- 12:42that side? So the Greek warship only
- 12:47accompanied us until we actually left Greek territorial waters
- 12:51and then turned back. The Italian vessels were a
- 12:54complete PR stunt, no help whatsoever.
- 12:58The Spanish fleet, we actually never saw it, turned around
- 13:02before we even got to see it. And the only fleet that actually
- 13:06delivered any kind of help was the Turkish fleet actually,
- 13:10which came up to the Alma, our boat, and provided a bunch of
- 13:14humanitarian in aid. But that was about it.
- 13:17When we were in our hour of need and we needed the warships, when
- 13:22Israel kidnapped us, illegally abducted us, there were no
- 13:26worships to be seen. So to us, it was performative
- 13:29politics. It was we didn't expect anyone
- 13:32to come to our assistance or help.
- 13:36But you know, these, these warships did for us.
- 13:40They they were barely visible, barely there.
- 13:43That's interesting. A lot of people believe if they
- 13:46stuck with you that would have created a lot of problems for
- 13:48the Israelis. But this is a different
- 13:51discussion. Maybe we can have another time,
- 13:52but tell us about your crew mates.
- 13:54There was some incredible people involved, my understanding, all
- 13:59volunteers from all around the world.
- 14:01Many people applied their limited positions as crew
- 14:05members and there's some very high profile people as well.
- 14:09What was it like and what were some of the things that you can
- 14:13say about some of your your your comrades there on the mission?
- 14:18Only good things, I mean we had around 30,000 plus applications,
- 14:22which which says it all, like 30,000 people are willing to put
- 14:26their bodies on the line, potentially risk attacks, if not
- 14:30worse by the scientist entity to, to bring humanitarian aid to
- 14:35the besieged people of Gaza. On my vessel, on my ship, I had
- 14:41the honour to be with Mandela, Mandela, Mandela and Greta
- 14:46Thunberg and a lot of Thai keiki that many, many people know is
- 14:52an absolutely amazing activist and also Leila Hegazi, US
- 14:56activist, among other absolutely phenomenal activists who have
- 15:00been working tirelessly towards Palestinian liberation for most,
- 15:07most of their lives. So it was a real honour and a
- 15:11real pleasure to be surrounded by such incredibly inspiring
- 15:15individuals who were at the same time and very, very humble.
- 15:20And we, you know, were sailing together for around a month.
- 15:24And so we became close comrades and friends and almost family
- 15:31in, you know, on a, on a, on a boat for, for a month.
- 15:35You can never escape your comrades.
- 15:37And we had the absolute joy and pleasure to have built very,
- 15:41very strong relationships, and lasting relationships at that.
- 15:46And probably probably the most famous, at least at the moment
- 15:50in global politics was Greta Thunberg.
- 15:53She was famous as an environmental activist.
- 15:55But for the, since October 7th, she has become extremely vocal,
- 16:00extremely active on the, the, the genocide in Gaza.
- 16:04Just tell us about what it was like to, to, to, to be with her,
- 16:07to work on this effort with her. And also what there's there's
- 16:12stories about what the Israelis did they they, they singled her
- 16:16out for abuse when her her boat was apprehended.
- 16:21Tell us a little bit about what you know with with regards to
- 16:24Greta. Greta is Greta is exactly as she
- 16:29portrays herself to be. You know, Greta does not want
- 16:31the spotlight. She does not want to be seen as
- 16:34a hero. Neither do any of us.
- 16:37And she makes that very, very clear in each and every
- 16:40interview she does, umm, you know, she's using her privilege
- 16:43and her platform to shed light on what is happening in Gaza on
- 16:48this ongoing genocide ceasefire or not.
- 16:51Umm, and she's, she's an incredibly humble and kind and,
- 16:55and genuine, uh, uh, person. She was of course singled out,
- 17:00but this is not something that she, uh, even wants to bring to
- 17:04the media because she does not want to become the story.
- 17:07But of course the media has heard how she was draped in the
- 17:11Israeli flag, kicked repeatedly, made to kiss the Israeli flag,
- 17:17and just continually abused and mentally and physically abused
- 17:23by by this entity. Time and time again.
- 17:26Every day I would see her get dragged out of her cell and get
- 17:30brought in front of high IOF generals to discuss, in their
- 17:38words, the reason why we're there and to understand why
- 17:43we're why we're so adamant on bringing humanitarian aid to to
- 17:48a besieged population. Very, very strange, very, very
- 17:50bizarre. They wanted to kind of convert
- 17:53her to to their cause, which of course did not work at all.
- 17:59And tell us about the time of apprehension.
- 18:01So you're all you knew that it was coming.
- 18:04I mean, as you get closer and you started getting drone
- 18:07attacks, you start seeing their sort of ships circling you,
- 18:12hailing your vessels and so forth.
- 18:14And so you've been trained on a protocol.
- 18:16You're live streaming this from your boats.
- 18:19But yet at that point, you have to kind of, I heard, get rid of
- 18:22your devices. Tell us about the time of
- 18:24apprehension, what that was like, what was going through
- 18:26your minds? And then they brought you back
- 18:29to, to, to, to maximum security prison, apparently.
- 18:34Go ahead. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:36As you know, Israel was trying to manufacture consent to attack
- 18:40us for weeks, calling us terrorists and putting out
- 18:45fabricated reports of of of us being terrorists and each
- 18:49participant being guilty by association, therefore giving
- 18:52them a a right to attack us. Where after the warships came, I
- 18:57think realized that there was a lot of global pressure from the
- 19:02people, not necessarily from our states.
- 19:04Our states only brought the warship because of the pressure
- 19:08that people globally put onto them, protecting us and
- 19:13demanding a safe passage. We were abducted, you know, in
- 19:19kind of almost one by one at sea.
- 19:23They came for the big ships first.
- 19:26We had been encircled by around 12, uh, military vessels and
- 19:30they brought a floating, uh, prison, um, very dystopian and
- 19:36bizarre and, uh, water cannons and comes jamming boats.
- 19:40So they came with a whole kind of fleet of boats, uh, to umm,
- 19:46try to intercept us. Or they of course had, uh, we
- 19:48noticed they did not have the capacity, they barely had the
- 19:52capacity to intercept us all. So they sure as hell don't have
- 19:55the capacity to intercept 100 boats when we go back and break
- 19:59the siege next time, uh, which we realise is absolutely
- 20:02possible. But yeah, they abducted us, uh,
- 20:04illegally in international waters, brought us to the port
- 20:07of Ashdod where we saw the Madeline and the Handala, umm,
- 20:12put out as trophies of, uh, boats.
- 20:14That they stole in previous interceptions and then they
- 20:19attempted to humiliate us and and psychologically and
- 20:24physically tortured us for the the coming days.
- 20:28Yes, and and also so Ben Gavir is a sort of very far right
- 20:34extremist, you know, calling for the annihilation of the
- 20:38Palestinians, the extermination, ethnic cleansing and so forth.
- 20:42So you had a you and your caught your your crewmates had a direct
- 20:47kind of confrontation with him or he was trolling you.
- 20:51He had all of you from what the reports that we see tied up in a
- 20:54yard where he was shouting at you, but you guys and yourself
- 20:58as well shouted back. He put the video on social
- 21:02media. We'll show this video now and
- 21:04it'll give you give give our viewers a kind of a sense of
- 21:07what the scene was like and then we'll get your comment on it.
- 21:09But let's go ahead and roll this.
- 21:30I. I mean, apologies to our viewers
- 22:03for having to show you Ben Gavir for over a minute, but we'll,
- 22:07we'll hand it back to you. What was that like, Yara?
- 22:11I mean, to me, the most outrageous thing about this
- 22:13video is that they threw our aid overboard our aid, which was
- 22:17widely documented in hundreds of videos, that they threw it
- 22:21overboard and that our aid and the baby formula that
- 22:24Palestinians desperately need and the medicine, etcetera is
- 22:27all floating in the Mediterranean now.
- 22:30That's how depraved the Israelis are.
- 22:33Him calling us terrorists was all part of a smear campaign
- 22:37that was running for weeks and weeks to try to, to attack us
- 22:41into, to get to put us in, in Ketsuya prison in the Negev
- 22:45desert, a maximum security prison where they hold
- 22:48Palestinians, where they torture Palestinians and where they kill
- 22:51Palestinians. Just a couple of days ago, a
- 22:54Palestinian died in in, in detention, in administrative
- 22:58detention. And 10,000 plus Palestinians are
- 23:01still being held in administrative detention even
- 23:05after the 2000 Palestinians are released in this so-called peace
- 23:11deal. And there will still be 8000
- 23:13plus Palestinians, 450 of which are children.
- 23:17You know, Ben Gavir calling us terrorists came as no surprise
- 23:19to us, but it was very cathartic to be able to tell him that
- 23:24Israel is committing A genocide and that he's a baby killer.
- 23:28Something that startled him quite a bit, because I think it
- 23:31must have been one of the first times that he was faced with 500
- 23:35humanitarians that are kind of pointing the mirror back at him
- 23:39and showing him who the real terrorist and Madre is.
- 23:43Yeah, and he edited your your all your comments that shouting
- 23:46at he edited out his social media video, which was
- 23:49interesting, but he was also trolling you.
- 23:51This is the defense minister for Netanyahu came to the prison to
- 23:54troll you putting a picture, We'll bring this up on screen of
- 23:58of what the what was he called this the future Gaza.
- 24:01And he made you guys look at it every day or whenever you pass
- 24:05by. It was it was part of the
- 24:07psychological warfare they were playing on you.
- 24:09Explain that part briefly if you could.
- 24:13Yeah, this, this set the new Gaza in Arabic.
- 24:16This was a poster of a completely annihilated and
- 24:19bombed apocalyptic looking Gaza, which, you know, in the prison
- 24:24courtyard, the cells were all next to each other and the
- 24:26courtyard was in front of us. So each time you would look out
- 24:29the window, you would see this huge poster, below it an Israeli
- 24:33flag, and below it a pool of what I can only describe was
- 24:38blood. So every single day I woke up
- 24:41and I looked out the cell, I could imagine was, my God, what
- 24:45have they done to Palestinians here?
- 24:47If they treated us in the way that they did as uh, uh, many
- 24:51times they, umm, actually threatened to gas us, gas us.
- 24:55Umm, we were, uh, and, and when we asked, uh, when we told them
- 24:59that they're not allowed to pepper spray us, they said, no,
- 25:02not that kind of gas. So they were threatening us.
- 25:05They were pointing snipers at us.
- 25:06They were keeping essential life saving medications from people
- 25:10with cancer, people with heart problems, people with diabetes
- 25:14who desperately needed insulin. People were fainting.
- 25:19You know, this was happening every single day.
- 25:22And instead of helping us, their answer when we asked for medics
- 25:26was that they would gas us. Or at another juncture, an
- 25:30answer, but by a guard was, is she dead?
- 25:33Referring to a friend of mine who had fainted.
- 25:37Is she dead? Because if she's not dead, it's
- 25:39not an emergency. And I quote her directly.
- 25:43So this was aside from the fact that we got no drinkable water,
- 25:47we got, we were drinking from from brown water in the bathroom
- 25:52because they weren't providing clean drinking water.
- 25:55We were getting a couple of slices of stale bread and rice
- 25:58that had been left out in the sun all day, which is also quite
- 26:02dangerous. Among all of these kind of
- 26:07different things that they were doing, they were also directly
- 26:10pointing snipers at our heads and keeping us from sleeping by
- 26:14coming into our cells every couple of hours and just moving
- 26:18you to a different cell at 2:00 AM for no reason whatsoever.
- 26:22So these were all techniques that they employed.
- 26:24But of course, if they do this with us, imagine how they treat
- 26:28Palestinians. And well, here's a just a photo
- 26:32of you on your release. This is as you're coming back to
- 26:35Spain off of a chartered flight that the Israelis used to deport
- 26:39you, took your passports, didn't let you have them until you
- 26:43landed back in Europe. So, but it's great to see all of
- 26:48you that you're back and that you're OK.
- 26:50At least most of the crew that we've seen are in good spirits.
- 26:54So again, we're we'd like, we'd like to continue this
- 26:57conversation another time, Yara, but we really appreciate you
- 27:01sharing your your story with us here on the UK column News Yara
- 27:05Mondarelli, thank you so much. Thank you.
- 27:08Thanks for having me. OK, brilliant.
- 27:10Thank you, Yara. And well, Yara is off now to
- 27:14have another interview and hopefully she gets as much
- 27:19coverage as possible. Patrick.
- 27:21Well, look, let's move on then. And the other news from this
- 27:25morning, of course, is that the Nobel committee has announced
- 27:29the winner of the Peace Prize. So let's just have a look at,
- 27:35let's just have a look at the first clip of this because we've
- 27:39got a couple of clips from the announcement.
- 27:41But let's just listen to a few seconds of what was said at the
- 27:43beginning. The Nobel Peace Prize for 2025
- 27:52goes to a brave and committed champion of peace and.
- 27:59And Patrick, you know, when I heard that, I just, the first
- 28:02name that came to mind was Donald Trump.
- 28:03It's gonna be 7 wars, 7 wars. Is it?
- 28:06Is it not? Did he win?
- 28:08Did he not win? Well, this was posted on the
- 28:10official Israeli Prime Minister's Twitter account.
- 28:13We'll bring this up here. That's an AI generated image.
- 28:16This is on Netanyahu's official X account right here.
- 28:21So this is they, they want Donald Trump to win.
- 28:23Netanyahu himself recommended or nominated Trump.
- 28:26Should Israel be allowed to nominate anybody for the Nobel
- 28:30Peace Prize? I mean, it's crazy world we're
- 28:31living in here. But we'll see, I guess, what
- 28:34we'll find out. Well, let's find out.
- 28:38To a woman who keeps the flame of democracy burning amidst a
- 28:43growing darkness, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to
- 28:53award the Nobel Peace Prize for 2025 To Maria Corina Machado.
- 29:03She is receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for her tireless work
- 29:07promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela and for
- 29:13her struggle to achieve a just and peaceful transition from
- 29:19dictatorship to democracy. As the leader of the democratic
- 29:26forces in Venezuela, Maria Corina Machado is one of the
- 29:31most extraordinary examples of civilian courage in Latin
- 29:36America in recent times. Miss Machado has been a key
- 29:43unifying figure in a political opposition that was once deeply
- 29:48divided, an opposition that found common ground in the
- 29:54demand for free election and representative government.
- 30:01Well, apparently Trump didn't get it.
- 30:04It'll probably complain it's a DEI award, but it's goes deeper
- 30:09than that. And we'll show you how deep this
- 30:11goes, actually. And so that's the the headlines
- 30:14here. Maria Cortina Machado wins the
- 30:18Nobel gong. I think we can call it a gong at
- 30:21this point because the awards been thoroughly discredited
- 30:24there. But they're calling her the
- 30:25leader of the democratic forces of Venezuela.
- 30:27That's like a military wing, but it's not.
- 30:30It's funny you use the term democratic forces.
- 30:33This is a hugely politicized award by the Nobel Committee.
- 30:37I will argue Mike, this is the most politicized Nobel Peace
- 30:41Prize award ever. Well, isn't Venezuela absolutely
- 30:45the top of Trump's regime change list?
- 30:47They're being attacked right now by the US, and this goes very
- 30:51deep indeed. We'll show you a little bit
- 30:53about this here. Now, this is what you have to
- 30:55realize right now. the United States recognizes the Venezuelan
- 30:59opposition leader, Edmundo Gonzalez as the president of the
- 31:02country. So this is the new Juan Guaido.
- 31:05The Americans just said we, that's our that's the guy that
- 31:08we think is president didn't go, he didn't go through, you know,
- 31:11any of the due process, wasn't elected to anything.
- 31:14But the US didn't like Maduro. So that's it.
- 31:17So what's interesting here is Gonzalez, let's take a look at
- 31:22this. He has made Maria Cortina
- 31:28Machado installed her as as executive vice president.
- 31:32So if he steps down, she becomes the US recognized quote
- 31:36president even though she's not elected to anything.
- 31:39Now, there's been accusations ever since 2005, Mike, that this
- 31:43woman is ACIA asset and this is the just type in Maria Quintino
- 31:50Machado CIA asset into Google. And you can do your own research
- 31:54on this. There's plenty to look at there.
- 31:57And I've I thought, is there any legs to this accusation, Mike?
- 32:00So I did a little digging as we do on this program and let's
- 32:05take a look at that for a minute.
- 32:06Well, this is an interesting story from a year ago.
- 32:09Venezuela's attorney general to CNNNGO Sumat has no electoral
- 32:12authority. What is Sumat?
- 32:14Sumat is an NGO that monitors Venezuelan elections and
- 32:20controls polling stations. Who funds SUMAT?
- 32:24Well, it's none other than the National Endowment for
- 32:27Democracy. That is a known CIA cut out
- 32:30front. And who is the founder of SUMAT?
- 32:33And this might shock you or it might not.
- 32:36It is none other than Maria Cortina Machado.
- 32:41So the accusations of her being ACIA asset, I'm afraid look very
- 32:46credible at this point, Mike. And so you're looking at here a
- 32:51massive regime change operation. And I don't know if we have one
- 32:56more slide here, but yeah, this is how the media are are
- 33:00positioning her. Look at this.
- 33:01Who is more, this is Reuters, the opposition leader.
- 33:04Here's Brookings Institute, that's the Hudson Institute
- 33:07here. Maduro menace a conversation
- 33:09with Maria Manchata, there's Brookings there bring bring
- 33:14their case to the OAS Organization of American States.
- 33:16Rolling Stone will prevail. Opposition leader is not giving
- 33:20up. So they're positioning her.
- 33:22Clearly this is and this is Marco Rubio and Trump.
- 33:26So Trump is backing this Venezuelan and the Trump
- 33:30administration backing her for regime change in Venezuela.
- 33:33It's clear as day, Mike. Now, why would they be doing
- 33:37that, Patrick? Why would they be doing that?
- 33:39Is that anything to do with the fact that Venezuela supports
- 33:43Palestinian cause? It might be, but probably more
- 33:46so because Venezuela has the second largest proven oil
- 33:49reserves in the world and mostly most of it's been taken offline
- 33:53under the first Trump administration.
- 33:55They stole the Venezuelan state oil company SITCO, stole their
- 33:58assets, liquidated some of it and gave it to 1 Guido and
- 34:02nobody knows what happened with the money.
- 34:04We're talking about hundreds of of 1,000,000 billions in fact by
- 34:07the end of it. But that it's also a
- 34:09geopolitical thing. It's wrestling control.
- 34:12And they have more of a hybrid economy in Venezuela, IE state
- 34:16directed capitalist socialist hybrid.
- 34:18Washington does not like this model at all.
- 34:21They want free market privatization, open it up for
- 34:25speculation and just vulture capitalism.
- 34:28That's and the the Chavez and Maduro are keeping that at Bay.
- 34:32This is really what it's about. OK, Thank you, Patrick.
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- 36:22OK, Now, Keir Starmer, our illustrious Prime Minister, has
- 36:27been in India to meet Prime Minister Modi.
- 36:31There they are, they look very happy together.
- 36:35He signed a £350 million contract to supply the Indian
- 36:39military with UK manufactured lightweight missiles as part of
- 36:43a deepening weapons and defence partnership between EU the two
- 36:46countries. This is how the UK government
- 36:48describes it. They describe it as a new
- 36:50milestone reached in in UK, India, Defence industrial
- 36:54collaboration. But get this Patrick, they talk
- 36:58about a new milestone in defence industrial collaboration on
- 37:02electric powered engines for naval ships.
- 37:05How does that work if you're sailing, bearing in mind anybody
- 37:09that has an electric car and you're trying to trying to drive
- 37:11up the M5 or something and you get to Bristol and it's got no
- 37:14power anymore and you got to park the thing up for three
- 37:17hours to charge it up. What are they going to do with
- 37:19these these these naval ships with electric motors?
- 37:22Are they going to park them in the middle of the Indian Ocean
- 37:26and provide some kind of far back for them to to recharge?
- 37:29What are they gonna do? Maybe Elon will have a a network
- 37:32of of charging stations in the ocean or they could have
- 37:36retractable sails which they could put up or solar panels.
- 37:40It'll be a slower journey, of course, taking a major tankers
- 37:43with solar panels. But Mike?
- 37:45No, we're talking about military Navy ships.
- 37:47Navy ships, OK, but I think the best solution is of course the
- 37:49most green one is to have diesel generators on the ship so they
- 37:53can recharge the batteries, right.
- 37:55That's. Anyway, anyways, getting back to
- 37:58the missile part of it, this contract is going to, they say
- 38:02deliver UK manufactured lightweight multi role missiles
- 38:06built in Belfast to the Indian Army.
- 38:08And this of course, is all part of the British regime's plan for
- 38:12change and the provision of jobs, as you know, jobs.
- 38:17Hundreds of new jobs. Hundreds of new jobs linked to
- 38:19the deaths of other people. So.
- 38:21So that's all good stuff. But in the meantime then,
- 38:26somebody else that Starmer met was Nandan Nilikani, which who's
- 38:32the very he's effectively responsible for the thorny issue
- 38:38of digital ID in India. So Nilikani is part of emphasis.
- 38:45Yeah, sorry, emphasis. He's sort of the head of
- 38:48emphasis at the moment. And they are behind the roll out
- 38:50of digital ID to 1.4 billion Indian citizens or so.
- 38:54Now, interestingly, Sam Coats from Sky News asked Starmer
- 38:59about this. He said this is during the
- 39:01closing press conference. But he said that Starmer was
- 39:05quote, infused by a fresh enthusiasm for the plan for
- 39:09digital ID because Coats felt that that Starmer's was feeling
- 39:13a bit deflated by the response from the British public on the
- 39:16issue. But having spoken to the and
- 39:18seen the way it operates in India, he's really excited about
- 39:21it, which is really a bit unfortunate because really the
- 39:26timing of this hasn't gone so well for them.
- 39:30This is Discord, and this is Discord's Twitter feed today.
- 39:33And actually, there's nothing about what's happened to Discord
- 39:36on their Twitter feed. They seem to be just blanking
- 39:38the whole thing. They're not acknowledging it
- 39:40publicly at all it seems, at least as far as their social
- 39:43media is concerned. And why am I mentioning Discord?
- 39:46Well, because they have admitted to losing 70,000 government
- 39:52issued IDs as a result of a hack.
- 39:55Now that number in my opinion is a massive understatement.
- 39:59The hackers themselves claim to have stolen data from 5.5
- 40:03million unique users. The hack wasn't of Discord
- 40:06itself, but it was of the age verification company the the
- 40:10company that they had outsourced the age verification situation
- 40:14to, which was Zendesk. And, and so the question is
- 40:18bearing in mind the Starmer regime is about to consult on
- 40:21digital ID for not only adults, for for children aged 13 to 16.
- 40:26And of course, as we've been talking about over the last lot
- 40:29of months, this is closely related to the age verification
- 40:31regime brought in by the Online Safety Act.
- 40:34Should the British government not be slightly embarrassed
- 40:36about the fact that, you know, an age verification corporation
- 40:41has has lost this amount of which just exposes people to
- 40:46identity theft? Well, the solution to that,
- 40:49Mike, is just make sure that an Israeli company is managing all
- 40:53of that data and then there's nothing to worry about because
- 40:55they're our best friends. Israel, by the way, Infosys in
- 40:59India. Is that the same Infosys that
- 41:02Rishi Sunak's family is? I couldn't possibly comment.
- 41:05Heavily invested in father-in-law to the tune of
- 41:08over half a billion dollars or something like that.
- 41:10Is that the same Infosys? It is.
- 41:12It is, but it's. So interesting.
- 41:14Starmer. Starmer was elected on change.
- 41:16And of course, if you're elected on change, you make sure you
- 41:19employ the same people that were proposed in the original.
- 41:24He's hoping for some spare change from the Infosys mergers,
- 41:28and that would be. That would be an allegation, I
- 41:32would say. They they wouldn't do that,
- 41:34would they? No, they would.
- 41:35No, of course not. But anyway, let's move on then.
- 41:39You mentioned Israel again, but let's look at what's going on
- 41:42militarily there. Well, look at the what?
- 41:44What? This new report came out here.
- 41:45Look at this. This is from Responsible State
- 41:47Crab. He's doing some pretty good work
- 41:49lately. This is a Quincy Institute in
- 41:51the United States. 20 So they reckon since October 7th, the
- 41:54United States has forked out 21.7 billion in military aid to
- 42:00fuel Israel's war on Gaza. This is a new report here.
- 42:03This is academic level report. And this is the the the gist of
- 42:08it here, Mike. Israel could not have wreaked
- 42:10the level of destruction it inflicted on Gaza without US
- 42:14weapons and financing. And US provided them the ability
- 42:18to widen the war to to the broader region that would have
- 42:22been severely undermined had they not had US support.
- 42:24A very important point here, very important.
- 42:27But on this issue of supplying weapons to Israel, some European
- 42:30countries are now finding themselves at leaders and
- 42:34corporations are finding themselves at the other end of
- 42:37the legal tunnel on this issue. And here's one, believe it or
- 42:41not, Giorgio Maloney, Italian Prime Minister, she is named in
- 42:45an ICC complaint alleging complicity in the Gaza genocide
- 42:50here. The details of this are the
- 42:52important part. So we want to 1st actually,
- 42:56we'll we'll look at the her reaction to this.
- 42:57Let's go ahead and roll that clip.
- 43:05La France.
- 43:34De la Palestina. So.
- 44:15So she's clearly in a defensive mode on that.
- 44:19So let's go on and look at the what could be behind her denial
- 44:23or her response there. And we'll bring this up on
- 44:25screen right now. And this is what this is from
- 44:29our global affairs editor of 21st Century Wide.
- 44:32Despite Maloney's nervous reaction, the move is not
- 44:36unexpected given the comparable actions have already been taken
- 44:39throughout Europe. In Germany, legal actions have
- 44:41been filed with the ICC local courts targeting government
- 44:45officials, arms manufacturers for alleged involvement in the
- 44:49genocide in Gaza. But here's the important point.
- 44:51This is from France. 100 lawyers in France have officially
- 44:54requested the ICC to look into France's potential complicity in
- 44:59Emmanuel Macron's complicity in the genocide in Gaza.
- 45:03This is happening in multiple European countries.
- 45:06And just another point to add here.
- 45:09And this according to the Stockholm International Peace
- 45:12Research Institute. It's a very good think tank, by
- 45:15the way. I've cited them before.
- 45:16Until, until he was among three nations exported major
- 45:19conventional arms. So Maloney's saying we haven't
- 45:22sent anything since October 7th, but she's just talking about new
- 45:25orders. They kept fulfilling old orders.
- 45:27But this is exactly what the British regime did as well.
- 45:30They said we're going to stop sending arms to to Gaza, but
- 45:33let's ignore all the billions of pounds worth of contracts that
- 45:36already exist because they're going to be fulfilled.
- 45:38And some of them slip through which you'll at the F35 parts
- 45:41from Leonardo in Italy. But back back to this quote here
- 45:45in this that that was between 2020 and 2024.
- 45:48So the overlap of October 7th, but, but it's noteworthy, the
- 45:51United States and Germany accounted for a staggering 99%
- 45:54of exports in a broader category of large weaponry.
- 45:58So Germany and the United States far and away and then Britain is
- 46:02a sort of trailing 3rd place on that in terms of supplying
- 46:05weapons to enable this genocide in Gaza.
- 46:09So I think the ball is just beginning to roll on this story,
- 46:13Mike. And you can see the panic.
- 46:14Is this why all the European countries are suddenly
- 46:17recognizing A Palestinian state? They.
- 46:19Think that's going to stay off potential ICC prosecutions?
- 46:22They're trying to create a public relations barrier to
- 46:24protect themselves, perhaps. I, I personally, I think it's,
- 46:27it's for other things as well to buy to help by time and give the
- 46:30impression that there's some kind of peace deal so that the
- 46:33Arab countries will back Tony Blair's Gaza Riviera Project,
- 46:38Blair and Trump's debacle there in Gaza.
- 46:40But anyway, that's a discussion for later.
- 46:43OK, let's well what was Lincoln and do that up to?
- 46:49Well, I don't know, but I, I didn't supply this, this image,
- 46:53but I mean seeing that it's up here, right?
- 46:56OK, well, I had to apologize. Is this?
- 46:58Is this recent? No, this is not recent.
- 46:59This is. This is actually an error, so
- 47:01I'm going to apologize for that. Let's let's just.
- 47:03It's a horrific picture by the. Way it is, yeah.
- 47:06Yeah. OK, Look, I want to just mention
- 47:09what's going been going on in the South China Sea and the last
- 47:12few days because Exercise Bersama Lima has finished.
- 47:18And on the Twitter feed, which is what you should have seen
- 47:20there, it said Exercise Bersama Lima has wrapped up.
- 47:24Now they said that Bersama Alida 25 is the largest of a series of
- 47:29annual exercise exercises delivered by the nations of the
- 47:32five Paris Defence agreements arrangements.
- 47:34That's the UK, Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand and
- 47:37Singapore over 2 weeks, they said.
- 47:39The UK joined Malaysia, Singapore, Australia and New
- 47:42Zealand for training across sea, air and land.
- 47:44And this is a building, sorry. I'm building on this exercise
- 47:49that that included military training, but it also included
- 47:55sporting and cultural exchange activities aimed at building
- 47:59personal connections and enhancing cooperation among the
- 48:02five participating nations. So this is a well, let's just
- 48:07just let's just put this little bit of video on screen here so
- 48:11you can get an idea of what it looked like.
- 48:12But it's, it's a pretty pathetic attempt at at Sabre rattling
- 48:16towards China and perhaps India as well to a certain degree,
- 48:21while at the same time running all these sort of cultural
- 48:24exchange things. So.
- 48:25So this is effectively more about soft power than it is
- 48:28about hard power. Right, Yeah.
- 48:29So it's using the military as a type of a soft power.
- 48:32And but Mike, I mean, that means that they're going to get
- 48:35together and and confront China in the in the sporting arena
- 48:38maybe. I mean, they're not messing
- 48:40around, are they? No, no.
- 48:42So if you can't beat them on the battlefield, you try to beat
- 48:44them on the what? The cricket pitch or, I don't
- 48:47know, rugby or I don't know, football.
- 48:51Who? Knows maybe.
- 48:52Pickleball. No Table tennis.
- 48:55It could be any of these. Cuz this is they.
- 48:56Haven't got a chance against China.
- 48:58And table tennis, yeah, cuz I mean, I don't know where they're
- 49:01going on that actually the cultural side, like what's
- 49:03involved there? What's that about getting
- 49:06together, making chapatis like How does that work?
- 49:10And dancing. We're sort of we're sort of
- 49:12making fun of this thing in a sense.
- 49:14It if it wasn't so serious, it's it's, it is a bit of a joke.
- 49:18But anyway, look at what else has been going on then.
- 49:21So Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper, well, she was in
- 49:27Northern Ireland yesterday with what she described as European
- 49:32partners don't see her there. Let's does she?
- 49:35Oh, there she is. Yeah.
- 49:37Anyway, so she was there. This is all about the Western
- 49:40Balkans. So they call this the Western
- 49:42Balkan Summit, foreign ministers meeting.
- 49:46It's all about what they described as the importance of
- 49:49building resilience in the Western Balkans to combat the
- 49:52constant flood of Russian hybrid threats aimed at destabilizing
- 49:57the region and finding ethnic tensions.
- 50:00So I got to suggest that perhaps there's a little bit of
- 50:03projection on to Russia, what we're doing ourselves as a
- 50:06nation. I've been hearing rumours of
- 50:08efforts to restart the Balkans conflict for several months now,
- 50:12and the British regime has formed on this.
- 50:14But before we just discuss the form that the British regime
- 50:17has, let's let's look at the little propaganda video that
- 50:19they pushed out on it. Nearly 30 years ago, dialogue
- 50:23between leaders right here helped shape a peaceful future
- 50:26for Northern Ireland. Today, foreign ministers are
- 50:29meeting here to discuss preserving peace in the Western
- 50:31Balkans. But peace is never permanent.
- 50:33It must be protected. Western Balkans face growing
- 50:36threats from instability, corruption and criminal gangs,
- 50:38and close to 22,000 people transited through their last
- 50:42year. Malign actors, including Russia,
- 50:43are using cyber attacks and disinformation to stir division
- 50:46and weaken democracy. These threats do not respect
- 50:49borders. They compromise our shared
- 50:51security, economic growth and our values.
- 50:54The UK stands ready to support a secure and prosperous future in
- 50:56the Western Balkans. From the lessons of Northern
- 50:59Ireland, we look ahead together. So that's their pathetic little
- 51:04propaganda piece. Now, what they're talking about
- 51:05is pumping millions of pounds into the Western Balkans to deal
- 51:09with people smuggling and all these kinds of things.
- 51:11But of course, we know when, when Foreign Commonwealth Office
- 51:14money goes into these countries in this, this acts as a front
- 51:17for other activities. But they're talking about law
- 51:21enforcement training in Kosovo, stronger border security and as
- 51:25I say, people trafficking and so on.
- 51:27Look, one clue about what might be going on here that we might
- 51:31talk about is whether or not there's any BBC media action
- 51:34activity because and, and whether they have had any
- 51:38projects running in in this region.
- 51:40And indeed they have had projects running in Serbia, N
- 51:43Macedonia, Bosnia and Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Croatia and
- 51:47Slovenia. And we've got to remember the
- 51:49role in Syria just to bring Juliet Harkin, formerly of BBC
- 51:53Media Action, back on screen, because this is sort of the form
- 51:55that the British Foreign Office has.
- 51:57We, BBC Media Action, worked in 2004 with individuals within the
- 52:01Syrian ministry who wanted change and tried to get them to
- 52:03be the drivers of that. This organization, just one of
- 52:07the front organisations that goes into countries as an NGO,
- 52:11ostensibly in this case for, for journalism training and so on,
- 52:17but they then use people to create narratives that help
- 52:20destabilise and, and and so on. So I, I absolutely question what
- 52:27Britain is doing here. Any suggestion that this is
- 52:29about countering Russian hybrid threats is just nonsensical.
- 52:33This is we are there attempting to destabilise that region as
- 52:38another front against Russia, in my opinion.
- 52:40I mean that that propaganda video you showed the beginning
- 52:43is a is a masterpiece with the the classical score.
- 52:46And then they're saying peace is never permanent.
- 52:49Peace is never permanent. Let's think about the Balkans
- 52:51for a minute. How did the breakup of
- 52:53Yugoslavia occur? Did that just happen organically
- 52:57or did that have anything to do with the EU and NATO forcibly
- 53:00breaking up that country, including 75 days of bombing by
- 53:05AUS LED and British LED NATO military campaign to this day.
- 53:10This scars run deep. And and you know, we're over 20
- 53:14years from that that conflict, Mike.
- 53:15So I mean, Western Europe is the reason why there was conflict in
- 53:20the Balkans. It didn't exist before, but that
- 53:22was a major geopolitical piece that the Americans wanted to
- 53:25break up because they're thought they're on a roll because they
- 53:28just broke up the Soviet Union. That's how history should write
- 53:31it. But yet we have all this
- 53:33propaganda that's being shoved down our throats here to prepare
- 53:36us for what? To accept another war on
- 53:40European soil and to mobilize? No, we need to the Russians.
- 53:45Conscription. Yes.
- 53:47Mark, thank you for your patience.
- 53:48Let's welcome you to the program at last.
- 53:51What's what's been going on in the United States on the health
- 53:54front? Well, you might recall,
- 53:58gentlemen, good day guys, that last week I reported on the
- 54:01basic thrust of Make America Healthy Again, Make our Children
- 54:05Healthy Again through RFK's HHS. And no sooner had that come out
- 54:11then, and we'll show this slide from the Wapo, a democracy dies
- 54:15in darkness, says the Washington Post.
- 54:17I think they create some of that darkness.
- 54:19At any rate, right away, 6 surgeons general shot back.
- 54:23It's our duty to warn the nation about RFK Junior.
- 54:28So they're not just talking about his policies.
- 54:30They just don't like RFK himself.
- 54:32Now, let's name those six surgeons General really quickly.
- 54:36They're on this next slide. Jerome Adams, who was under
- 54:39Trump previously, Richard Carmona, Jocelyn Elders under
- 54:45Vivek Murphy under Biden, Antonia Novello under George HW
- 54:51Bush and David Satcher who also served under Bill Clinton.
- 54:55Those are the six surgeons general that are shooting back
- 54:58at Maha and whatnot. At any rate, let's go on from
- 55:02there and take note that the the the basic claims here we are of
- 55:11the former surgeons general. This is the the overall thrust
- 55:14of what they're saying. I've really boiled it down a
- 55:16lot. They're saying, quote, Kennedy
- 55:19has spent decades, and I put emphasis here, advancing
- 55:22dangerous and discredited claims about vaccines, most notoriously
- 55:26the thoroughly discredited theory the childhood vaccines
- 55:30cause autism. Actually there is evidence that
- 55:33autism is caused by vaccines. Some some vaccines.
- 55:36He has promoted misinformation about PV vaccine, which protects
- 55:41against cervical cancer, and he has repeatedly misrepresented,
- 55:44they say, the risk of mRNA technology and coronavirus
- 55:49vaccines despite their life saving impact during the
- 55:53pandemic. Life saving impact?
- 55:55Really. Talk about an only one sided
- 55:59rebuttal against Kennedy. My goodness anyway.
- 56:02And of course, Kennedy's former outfit Children's Health Defense
- 56:06then shot back again back at the surgeons general, saying the ex
- 56:10surgeons general's latest to join RFK.
- 56:14They're the latest to join the RFK junior smear campaign In a
- 56:18statement provided to the defender.
- 56:20That's the topless offense of publication Andrew Nixon.
- 56:23Nixon, excuse me, the communications director for the
- 56:26HHS accused former surgeons general of contributing to the
- 56:32three public the penalty is now attempting to address.
- 56:37So basically children tell the fans and saying the problem of
- 56:42Kennedy of are pretty much caused by the likes of Kennedy's
- 56:46critics in this case. Yeah, I think so.
- 56:51Yeah. Are you there, Mark?
- 56:55Is that? Yeah, sorry, sorry Mark, your,
- 56:58your audio is absolutely broken and we actually can't hear you
- 57:03very well at the moment. So that is unfortunate is.
- 57:06He Is he still there? Are you still there?
- 57:10Are you hearing me? Yeah, we are now.
- 57:11Yeah, we've got you back. OK, let me let me just get that
- 57:15Andrew Nixon quote and I'll try and finish in a slightly
- 57:18abbreviated fashion. OK.
- 57:21Anyway, Andrew Nixon, the HHS communications director, had
- 57:26this to say. The same officials who presided
- 57:29over the decline in America's public health are now
- 57:31criticizing the first HHS secretary to confront these
- 57:35problems head on. We remain committed, he says, to
- 57:38restoring trust, reforming broken health systems, and
- 57:41ensuring real healthcare choices.
- 57:44And the rest of the slides they show the other here's an
- 57:50important one. When when this came out very
- 57:52recently and I reported most recently at last week the make
- 57:56America healthy again make again one of the centerpieces of the
- 58:00overall report and it shows the report there is ending the
- 58:04corporate capture of public health.
- 58:07And of course the the Kennedy HHS covers much more than
- 58:13vaccines. One of the things about the
- 58:15surgeons general and their their critique is they're talking
- 58:19pretty much as if Kennedy his objections to a full blown
- 58:24acceptance of vaccines is the only problem.
- 58:26So as I put on this slide, RFK's plan about is more than vaccines
- 58:30and pharmaceutical. It's about updating dietary
- 58:34guidelines, reforming SNAP or food stamps to get to get sweets
- 58:38out of the out of the cycle, out of the out of the game there
- 58:42with with food stamps so there's less sweets and less junk food.
- 58:46Radical transparency. Other examples of what he's been
- 58:51doing, removing petroleum based food dyes or overhauling the
- 58:56grass standard, restoring trust and vaccine safety,
- 58:59investigating the cause of autism.
- 59:02So Kennedy is an absolutely conclusive that vaccines are the
- 59:06only cause of autism, but he has maintained their one of them and
- 59:10so it's much broader than the surgeons general.
- 59:13What would have you believe much just saying that RFK, aside from
- 59:18a few points, is just a vaccine conspiracy and trying to make
- 59:22that a stick. However, there's a twist in this
- 59:25whole thing and the defender, of course, recently I showed this
- 59:30slide. This is just a reminder there
- 59:32was secrecy. Even Kennedy's own defender is
- 59:35saying there's secrecy over the Trump Pfizer deal, sparking a
- 59:39Freedom of Information Act inquiry.
- 59:41I mentioned that last week. This is just for that.
- 59:44Here's where it takes a turn as we move on RFK's face.
- 59:49This is RFK's reaction. September 30th when Albert
- 59:54Borla, the CEO of Pfizer, was in the White House cementing this
- 59:58new deal where Pfizer would get, as it states here, no tariffs
- 1:00:05for no tariffs on Pfizer for three years.
- 1:00:08Pfizer, in return, will boost its domestic manufacturing to
- 1:00:11the tune of 70 billion. Making its drugs more available
- 1:00:15to Medicaid at a discounted rate.
- 1:00:16Things like that and Albert Borla was in the White House to
- 1:00:20cement that deal with RFK junior at the time.
- 1:00:23And this sub stack post that I'm that I'm showing here as as the
- 1:00:29small NF KS reaction as Trump odds and and pours out the
- 1:00:36praise on Albert Borla and five chose RFK's reaction if it's
- 1:00:43available. OK.
- 1:00:45Yeah. OK.
- 1:00:47Thank you for that. Mark, Unfortunately, your
- 1:00:50connection today was not very stable, but we got enough of
- 1:00:54that to understand what's going on.
- 1:00:55You got any brief thoughts on it?
- 1:00:57No, I think I probably would like to comment on the whole
- 1:01:00Tylenol thing because that's an interesting story there.
- 1:01:04There is some there's a method behind the scenes there.
- 1:01:07And I think Bing Pharma is, is, is indirectly going to end up
- 1:01:11benefiting from a lot of these things.
- 1:01:14So I mean, I'm, I'm very skeptical when it comes to big
- 1:01:16pharma because I know the lobbying, the lobbying power is
- 1:01:19just immense in Washington. And I know Trump's very chummy
- 1:01:23with the, the, the top echelon of the Pharmaceutical industry.
- 1:01:27Of course that's how they a fast tracked operation warp speed and
- 1:01:32he was groveling and fetting over them during his first term.
- 1:01:36But that's that's history. We can talk more about that.
- 1:01:40An extra I'm sure we will and lots to talk about an extras a
- 1:01:43day. So if you are AUK column member,
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- 1:01:50I just want to say thank you very much to Chris, who was
- 1:01:52producing the programme for the first time today.
- 1:01:55And so well done and we'll see how we go next week.
- 1:02:00Thank you for that and thanks for joining us everyone.
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