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The Big Issues 4 November 2020 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: But joining us in the studio right now for the
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Speaker 1: big issues. Well, I have got Matt Cunningham this morning.
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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, mattdo Wolfe. How are you very well?
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Speaker 1: And I've also got the big man himself in his
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump shows.
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Speaker 2: Don't Talma, why wouldn't I be?
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Speaker 3: Katie, Great to be with you, good morning.
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Speaker 4: It's a good day to be supporting Orange Jesus. You
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Speaker 4: know he's been out there spreading peace and delivering miracles.
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Speaker 2: Goodness Jim for another miracle.
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Speaker 1: It's certainly going to be an interesting day.
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Speaker 2: Matt. You've been keeping a really those on things, haven't you.
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Speaker 5: Well. I've been trying to Okatie.
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Speaker 3: It's very He's a news hound, that's what he does.
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Speaker 6: It's very difficult to follow, but I would say that
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Speaker 6: early on what's interesting is watching what's happening in Florida,
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Speaker 6: and it is a neck and neck race in Florida,
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Speaker 6: although on the latest votes, look looks like Donald Trump's
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Speaker 6: just got his nose in front in Florida. Now, if
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Speaker 6: Trump loses Florida, he'd only have to drop one sort
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Speaker 6: of reason and reasonably large state and he would lose
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Speaker 6: the election before all the others felt the same way
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Speaker 6: as twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 5: But he is, he does have his nose in front
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Speaker 5: in Florida.
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Speaker 6: And what's interesting in Florida as well is that in Miami,
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Speaker 6: while Biden is winning in Miami, he's not winning by
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Speaker 6: anywhere near as much as what Trump as what Hillary
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Speaker 6: Clinton was winning Miami by in twenty sixteen. Now, that
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Speaker 6: would tell you that a lot of those Latino voters,
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Speaker 6: a lot of those African American voters in Miami are
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Speaker 6: turning out for Trump. So if Trump managed is to
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Speaker 6: hang on in Florida, then there's every chance that this
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Speaker 6: could be a very close race and that Trump could
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Speaker 6: get a second term.
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Speaker 5: But as I say, it's very early days.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I just I was watching how mate, tim Avia,
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Speaker 4: a little while ago, it used to be a Channel
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Speaker 4: nine up here, a great guy now overseas.
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Speaker 3: He's in some tally rooms.
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Speaker 5: Say that about a journalist.
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Speaker 7: Ever, come on, you're not really journalists. But I take
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Speaker 7: that bank, I take that bank. That was That was
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Speaker 7: a wrong thing to say. That was the wrong thing
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Speaker 7: to say.
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Speaker 4: But tim Avia was talking about Florida, you see, and
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Speaker 4: basically echoing what Matt had to say. And whilst the
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Speaker 4: early results are reading for a narrow lead for Joe Biden,
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Speaker 4: tim Arvia was saying that this is dreadful news for
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Speaker 4: the Biden camp because are expecting to win those early
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Speaker 4: seats by a lot more and if things continue to
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Speaker 4: play it this way, they may well be a landslide
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Speaker 4: Trump's way in Florida.
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Speaker 2: I've got to.
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Speaker 1: Say, I'm not I won't be overly surprised if he wins.
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Speaker 1: I know that the polls have been saying that it
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Speaker 1: was going to go Joe Biden's way, but if you yeah,
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Speaker 1: I won't be surprised. I don't think if Donald Trump wins.
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Speaker 1: And you know I'm not a big Donald Trump supporter.
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Speaker 1: I know you are, Dave, I'm not, but I just
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Speaker 1: think he's he has managed for whatever reason, and however
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Speaker 1: he's done it, he has managed to reach the working
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Speaker 1: class of America.
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Speaker 2: They vote for him. And I was watching one.
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Speaker 1: Of his rallies yesterday because that's what I do in
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Speaker 1: my spare time, you know, I watch things like that
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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on what's going on around the place.
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Speaker 1: They are just chanting his name like they think that
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Speaker 1: he can do no wrong.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm hardly surprised, I have to say.
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Speaker 4: You know, to me, was happening in the US and
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Speaker 4: all this hype around Biden sort of reminds me somewhat
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Speaker 4: of Bill Shorten. And I don't think Americans, like Australians,
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Speaker 4: are ready to accept a major attack on their economy.
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Speaker 3: And when you look.
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Speaker 4: At the US, you've got the Democrats promising increased taxes,
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Speaker 4: promising to wind back fossil fuels. At one stage, Joe
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Speaker 4: Biden even said they would be in fracking. He sort
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Speaker 4: of backtracked on some of that sort of stuff. And
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Speaker 4: you then accompany that with all of this wokeness and
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Speaker 4: the PC brigade in the Democrats. It's very similar to
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Speaker 4: what happened in Australia with Bill Shorten and all of
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Speaker 4: the pundits in the media and the establishment, we're all
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Speaker 4: backing Bill Shorten at the time, and I think the
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Speaker 4: same is applying to the US. But fundamentally, I don't
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Speaker 4: think people want to see an increase in their taxes,
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Speaker 4: nor do they want to see.
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Speaker 2: I think they want jobs as well.
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Speaker 4: You know, I think Trump has got an amazing track
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Speaker 4: record on jobs, and fundamentally a lot of that was
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Speaker 4: about the tax cuts that he delivered and opening up
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Speaker 4: of the American energy industry.
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Speaker 6: On that point, It's going to be interesting to watch
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Speaker 6: what happens in Texas in particular, also in Pennsylvania and Ohio,
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Speaker 6: but in Texas. I mean, there'd been some talk that
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Speaker 6: Biden could potentially win Texas. I'm just looking at the
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Speaker 6: early results in Texas, and he's ahead in Houston, but
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Speaker 6: they're not in some other parts. I think, you know,
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Speaker 6: if Trump has a convincing win in Texas, it would
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Speaker 6: sort of reinforce the point that Dave is making on
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Speaker 6: the point of energy and on the point of jobs.
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Speaker 6: So that'll be an interesting one to follow tonight as well.
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Speaker 6: Interesting the point Dave makes them about Bill Shorten as well,
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Speaker 6: and we've had Anthony Albanezi up here the last three days.
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Speaker 5: I think there has been a.
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Speaker 6: Dramatic shift in Labor, even though there's some internal opposition
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Speaker 6: within their part about how they approach this issue. Anastagia
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Speaker 6: Palichets just won the Queensland election and won with a
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Speaker 6: swing to her and as Joel fits given the Labor
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Speaker 6: Resources spokesman said after that election, she did it while
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Speaker 6: she approved a new coal mine in Queensland during the
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Speaker 6: election campaign.
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Speaker 1: So he was also said, I mean, we can talk
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Speaker 1: about that again in the moment, but he'd also said that,
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Speaker 1: you know that federally, he feels as though Labor isn't
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Speaker 1: reaching the working class in the way that they need
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Speaker 1: to in the states that they had or certainly in Queens.
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Speaker 6: I think there's been a reckoning within the party. I
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Speaker 6: think that while there are some elements of the Labor
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Speaker 6: Party that are still trying to draw them towards that
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Speaker 6: sort of inner city left position, I think the party
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Speaker 6: itself has had an awakening on that issue. Certainly, Anthony Albanezi,
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Speaker 6: when he was up here this week, was talking up gas.
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Speaker 6: You know, he was he was certainly trying to tow
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Speaker 6: a sensible middle ground rather than do what Bill Short
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Speaker 6: did during the twenty nineteen election campaign, which was say
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Speaker 6: that you know, you know, we have to do all
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Speaker 6: these things on emissions, but give absolutely no detail whatsoever
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Speaker 6: and what the cost of achieving that with it.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting too when you look at it.
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Speaker 4: You know, we've and you know, I think, Maddie, you've
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Speaker 4: got this remarkable ability to understate things. I mean, no,
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Speaker 4: there's a huge there's a huge civil war going on
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Speaker 4: within labor at the moment. I mean it's it's racking
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Speaker 4: them to pieces. And you know, you could simplify it
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Speaker 4: and say it's the inner city elites versus people in
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Speaker 4: regional Australia who are lives focus on agriculture and mining,
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Speaker 4: and there's probably an element of that, but without a
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Speaker 4: doubt there's some major riffs within labor and very strong
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Speaker 4: pro coal voices in labor, Joel Fitzgibbon probably being the
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Speaker 4: chief one amongst them, but not certainly not the only one.
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Speaker 4: And then you look at the other side, you know,
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Speaker 4: the Liberal Party and they virtually stepped away from coal
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Speaker 4: said oh well all our focus is now on gas,
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Speaker 4: and you're sort of, yeah, it's going to be interesting
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Speaker 4: to see where the cards leand with this one, I
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Speaker 4: noticed that there's a couple of unions. Now we've come
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Speaker 4: out and said that, you know, powerful unions, not necessarily
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Speaker 4: aligned factionally at all. Well you're aligned to either side,
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Speaker 4: not aligned to either side, but have basically come out
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Speaker 4: and said, listen, you know we're out of here unless
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Speaker 4: you fix up your support for coal. So you know,
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Speaker 4: there's some major issues going on in this country. And
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Speaker 4: I think fundamentally people don't like unreliable electricity or high prices.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think that's driving a lot of
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Speaker 4: you know, the hip pocket and they've always drives a
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Speaker 4: lot of issues.
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Speaker 1: Well, it drives a lot, there's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: And it is time for the big issues. And you
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Speaker 1: Issues proudly brought to you by Simon Watts. Joining us,
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Speaker 1: of course is Dave Tolner and Matt Cunningham. Now, just
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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on the US election. From what I
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Speaker 1: can see on the age this morning, it is being
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Speaker 1: reported right now they're saying Biden at eighty five seats
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Speaker 1: and Trump fifty five. But gee, you know, we're very
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Speaker 1: early days when it comes to counting those votes, aren't we.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, they're talking about electoral College votes, and it's interesting.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just trying to watch the real time
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Speaker 6: coverage and the two states I think you really need
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Speaker 6: to keep it close eye at the moment of Florida
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Speaker 6: and Georgia, which are both both have Trump in front
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Speaker 6: at the moment. Whether he stays there or not is
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Speaker 6: the other question, because the other thing we know, the
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Speaker 6: other factor in this is all of those postal votes,
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Speaker 6: all of those people who voted early and those votes
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Speaker 6: coming in late. And whether that, I mean, the discussion
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Speaker 6: before the election was that they would favor the Democrats.
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Speaker 6: So whether that's going to happen, I don't know. But
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Speaker 6: Trump certainly has his nose well and truly in front
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Speaker 6: in Florida at the moment, and he's also just got
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Speaker 6: his nose in front in Georgia. So those those couple
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Speaker 6: of states are interesting, I think to watch. But as
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Speaker 6: you say, it's a long way.
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Speaker 2: To go, there is certainly a long way to go.
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Speaker 1: Tell you, well, one area that we're keeping a close
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Speaker 1: eye on on the weekend. And we did touch on
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Speaker 1: this before is the Queensland election. And we now know
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Speaker 1: that after Anastagia Palichet and the Labor government took out
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Speaker 1: took out the Queensland election on the weekend, that Queensland
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Speaker 1: Liberal National Party leader deb Frecklington well, she stood down,
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Speaker 1: she was going to call that party room vote for Oh,
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Speaker 1: that wasn't your fun, Matt coming.
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Speaker 2: Usually it's Daves wait for it, his alarm.
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Speaker 3: I can't, I can't do that. I can't do the mute.
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Speaker 2: It's not sure how to do it.
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Speaker 6: That was the alarm I had set to tell me
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Speaker 6: to say something. If David spent the first twenty minutes
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Speaker 6: talking uninterrupted, happens.
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Speaker 3: About But I'll.
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Speaker 1: Tell you what, Well, I was quite surprised by the
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Speaker 1: way that things unfolded in Queenslander. I guess maybe not,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're all expecting and I think COVID has
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Speaker 1: really thrown such a spanner in the works when it
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Speaker 1: comes to.
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Speaker 2: The elections.
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Speaker 3: Over the line because of it, didn't he.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you know that this is the thing. That's
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Speaker 1: what a lot of people are saying. Somebody was fiercely
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Speaker 1: offended last week, Dave when you called Michael Gunner a
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Speaker 1: dud on the show and asked me to please call
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Speaker 1: you out on that, And I thought, I've definitely heard
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Speaker 1: Dave say worse.
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Speaker 5: I'm heard da.
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Speaker 3: Everyone.
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Speaker 5: I've heard people call Dave a lot worse.
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Speaker 6: You know, something you got to say about Danny is
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Speaker 6: he's not easily offended.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. But yeah, me watch alike, just.
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Speaker 6: Not late for who spent thirty minutes in the last
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Speaker 6: session a question time at last Parliament having a crack
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Speaker 6: at one another over who was the most easily offended.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
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Speaker 1: And then they come in on a Friday and offend
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Speaker 1: each other again during the week that was they do.
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Speaker 3: It's sort of funny to watch. It's all funny to
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Speaker 3: listen to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but what did you think about deb Frecklington standing down? Obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know she was in a bit of a situation
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Speaker 1: where she had to, I guess after being defeated, But.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think she had no choice after what was
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Speaker 6: a pretty disastrous election was on. I mean, the knives
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Speaker 6: were out for her before the election. If you go
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Speaker 6: into an election with leaders leadership instability like the LMP
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Speaker 6: had in Queensland. You're starting well and truly behind the
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Speaker 6: eight ball. You know, their vote went backwards and she
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Speaker 6: had no choice, I think, but to stand down.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a bit sad. I have to say.
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Speaker 4: It seemed to me like Deb Frecklington was a good
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Speaker 4: coherent leader. But the times are against her. You've seen that.
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Speaker 4: There's been a number of people. Of course, they don't
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Speaker 4: win on their first attempt and it takes two or
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Speaker 4: three times. Sad, I think that Deb Fricklington has pulled
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Speaker 4: the pin. But ultimately in our division is death and
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Speaker 4: you can't have you can't have a party at war
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Speaker 4: with itself in the lead up to an election.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well and then and yeah, then when you I
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Speaker 1: guess when you suffer a loss like that. But you know,
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Speaker 1: COVID's just thrown everything, like we said, it just threw
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Speaker 1: everything up in the air. But now, speaking of resignations,
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Speaker 1: well we talked about this last week. Dave Tolna Australia
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Speaker 1: Post Chief executive Christine Holgate ended up resigning with immediate
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Speaker 1: effect after we cover it off on the Big Issues
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Speaker 1: last Wednesday morning. We then ended up on the on
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Speaker 1: the show on Thursday last week with one of the
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Speaker 1: people who actually has one of the outlets, you know,
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Speaker 1: the franchises, I guess you'd call them. I can't think
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Speaker 1: of the exact wording for it, but basically an Australia post.
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Speaker 2: You know, an area with an outlet where there you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm trying to say.
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Speaker 1: And she was one of the ones that had sent
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Speaker 1: the five dollars you know, I sent them. Well, she
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Speaker 1: said that no, she didn't, but she sent the five
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Speaker 1: dollars in coins to Skimo's office in the post to
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Speaker 1: make sure that they realized that that the government realized
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Speaker 1: that those franchisees did indeed support Christine Holgate, but it
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Speaker 1: wasn't enough to keep her in the job.
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Speaker 4: No, I think it's been a bit of an own
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Speaker 4: goal by Scamo, and even more so the fact that
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, in my view, the government never
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Speaker 4: backed down and that left Christine at Holgate in an
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Speaker 4: unenviable position to continue on at war with her major
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Speaker 4: shareholder or to simply step aside. And I think probably
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Speaker 4: she took the right decision and stepped aside.
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Speaker 3: Sad I have to say.
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Speaker 4: It seems to me an awn goal by Scam. One
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Speaker 4: of the few black spots on his.
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Speaker 3: On his record, I suppose.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really had no idea how much support Christine
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Speaker 1: Holgate had until we sort of opened the phone line,
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Speaker 1: so I had people messaging.
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Speaker 2: Me and I saw it news wise as well.
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Speaker 6: And from a business point of view, I mean, she's
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Speaker 6: effectively turned Australia Post around. And in the corporate world,
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Speaker 6: you know, four watches worth five thousand dollars each or
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Speaker 6: whatever they were, you know, is.
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Speaker 4: Nothing, but particularly if you pull off a hundred million
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Speaker 4: dollar deal.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I've had mates who work in the banking industry
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Speaker 6: and been given you know, lavish overseas.
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Speaker 5: Holidays as rewards for this sort of thing. You know,
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Speaker 5: we are in the role absolutely.
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Speaker 6: If you're in the if you're in the in the
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Speaker 6: government world, well it's a very different story because then
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Speaker 6: it's not your money, and that's when it becomes a
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Speaker 6: bit of a gray area. Of course, she'd come across
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Speaker 6: from Blackmores, where she'd done a pretty incredible job driving
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Speaker 6: up their share price, and I'm sure she would have
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Speaker 6: rewarded her executives at Blackmoor's with something far more extravagant
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Speaker 6: than a five thousand dollar watch.
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Speaker 5: But you know, in punt Land. You know, it doesn't
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Speaker 5: sort of sick.
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Speaker 4: And I think the other thing too, is that the
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Speaker 4: board of Australia Post, for whatever reason, has a number
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Speaker 4: of fellow travelers of the Liberal.
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Speaker 3: Party on me.
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Speaker 4: And I don't know whether sco May was thinking that
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Speaker 4: that wasn't a good look or whatnot. He's got a
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Speaker 4: review happening into Australia Post. But the fact is that
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Speaker 4: that organization has done a remarkable job, not just Christina Holgate,
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Speaker 4: but the board and everybody. And to see that all
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Speaker 4: sort of derailed by an issue of bonuses for a
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Speaker 4: bunch of people who did a remarkable job in pulling
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Speaker 4: off a deal that no one thought was possible, I
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Speaker 4: think it just looks bad.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's head back to the US briefly, and it
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Speaker 1: is being reported now that Florida has counted about two
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Speaker 1: thirds of its vote with President Donald Trump and Democratic
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Speaker 1: rival Joe Biden neck and neck. Biden's won Virginia and Vermont,
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Speaker 1: and Trump carried Indiana and West Virginia. Now we know
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Speaker 1: that polling stations also closed in Pennsylvania midday, one of
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Speaker 1: the crucial Blue Wall states that handed Donald Trump the
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Speaker 1: White House in twenty sixteen, but counting only began their
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Speaker 1: well today, so it could take days to get a
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Speaker 1: decisive result. We did catch up with a reporter on
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Speaker 1: the ground as well before ten o'clock this morning and
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Speaker 1: heard that, you know, it's pretty interesting.
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Speaker 2: They're no doubt about it. In Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: She'd send us a video of, you know, of people
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Speaker 1: walking around with baseball bats, or a bloke with a
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Speaker 1: baseball bat.
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Speaker 2: I think the worry is going to be the reaction
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Speaker 2: no matter which way it goes, everybody's.
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Speaker 4: Going to be keeping a very close I don't know
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Speaker 4: that people are worried if Trump gets elected.
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Speaker 3: I think they will. These shopkeepers with their shops.
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Speaker 6: I think they're worried if they're worried if Trump gets along.
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Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, they're worried if Trump gets elected, because I
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Speaker 4: don't think they're worried about white supremacists come and to
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Speaker 4: cause in trouble for their shops. I think they're worried
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Speaker 4: about the rioters and the looters that.
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Speaker 2: I'd be worried about bloody either side.
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Speaker 1: If I'm honest, if I was there seriously concerned about what's.
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Speaker 2: Going to happen.
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Speaker 6: I think there's a legitimate concern if Trump loses and
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Speaker 6: then refuses to accept the result, that things could get messy.
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Speaker 5: But I think there's also a problem if Trump wins.
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Speaker 6: And all those people who suffer from Trump de arrangements.
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Speaker 4: We've just had four years of people not accepting the result,
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Speaker 4: and we've seen what that's led to rights and all
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Speaker 4: of that sort of stuff across America. If Trump wins again,
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Speaker 4: you know, are we going to have another four years
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Speaker 4: of rights and not accepting winners.
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Speaker 1: So I do reckon that if Biden were to win, that,
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Speaker 1: I do reckon that we're going to find that that
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Speaker 1: some of those Trump supporters aren't overly happy either.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it would be interesting either way. I
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Speaker 6: think there's one thing to blame here, Wolfe, and it's
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Speaker 6: social media. It has just turned the United States in
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Speaker 6: particular into this just cesspit of divisions.
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Speaker 4: In fairness matter. You know, social media has bled into
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Speaker 4: the major media, your outlets around the world.
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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with that.
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Speaker 4: You know, we've got such a divided media, Like you
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Speaker 4: go onto the A B see from my perspective, I
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Speaker 4: cannot watch that now. I cannot turn practically anything on
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Speaker 4: the ABC on. I think the last good show I
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Speaker 4: watched on the A B. So it just happened to
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Speaker 4: be the federal election night. I was at somebody's place
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Speaker 4: and they had the A B C turn on our creams.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. I was sitting there watching Penny
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Speaker 4: Wong and Barry Cassidy and all those other dreadful people,
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Speaker 4: and then of course, and of course they put on
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Speaker 4: then they put on the most amazing show.
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Speaker 3: On the most amazing show. But that's really the last joy.
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Speaker 4: Can you look at you know, you look at the
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Speaker 4: our media outlets and that sort of stuff. You got
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Speaker 4: Kevin Rudd calling for a rural commission on Rupert Murdoch.
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Speaker 4: Can you believe that a rural commission on Rupert Murdock?
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Speaker 6: Why?
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Speaker 4: Because Rupert Murdock sells a lot of newspapers and aims
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Speaker 4: a lot of media outlets. That's fundamentally his reason. It
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Speaker 4: doesn't go with the way he thinks.
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Speaker 6: It's absolutely that is absolutely absurd. But you do see
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Speaker 6: and politicians. I was talking to someone who a senior
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Speaker 6: labor advisor both here in the territory and federally, who
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Speaker 6: was this morning who was saying that their biggest worry
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Speaker 6: about Labor federally was that politicians getting sucked in by Twitter.
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Speaker 1: I think I just think it's unbelievable because.
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Speaker 6: Twitter is, you know, it's a suer.
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Speaker 5: I'm on Twitter, Guardian journalists.
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Speaker 6: The consensus for you on Twitter is generally the opposite
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Speaker 6: of what mainstream Australia thinks. And I think Dave's point
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Speaker 6: about it creeping into the mainstream media is absolutely one
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Speaker 6: hundred percent correct.
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Speaker 2: Creeping in on this show.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting look at the journalists who aren't on
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Speaker 4: Twitter compared to those that are. It's, uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: they certainly line up. You know, the people on Twitter
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Speaker 4: generally will be the one signing a petition to do
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Speaker 4: away with Rupert Murdoch.
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Speaker 1: Well, Maddie and I aren't even journalists, so we don't
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Speaker 1: have to worry about it.
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Speaker 3: Sticking up for me in fairness, I stick up for
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Speaker 3: you both. I mean, there's oft and often I don't
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Speaker 3: agree with you, but you know.
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Speaker 4: At least there's some effort, well at least there's some
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Speaker 4: effort of balance, but it doesn't seem to be that
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Speaker 4: way and a lot of the media that I see now,
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Speaker 4: and admittedly I'm not very balanced myself.
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Speaker 3: I acknowledge it.
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Speaker 4: I a skew a little bit to the right. Well,
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Speaker 4: we just enough to wear a Trump T shirt into
21:48
Speaker 4: your study.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to have to leave it there. Always great
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Speaker 1: to have you both in the studio. Dave Tolner and
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Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham will be talking to you both in the
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Speaker 1: very near future and keeping a very close eye on
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Speaker 1: the US election, the afikay, the Donald.
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Speaker 2: Out of control, out of control.
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