Latest / The Immutable Word / EP056 The Living Cornerstone
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- 0:00It is a psychological impossibility for men to willingly die for something they know to be a lie.
- 0:07It's one thing to lie about something. It's another thing to die over that lie.
- 0:11If they'd stolen the body, then they would have known the resurrection was a hoax.
- 0:15And if money, sex, or power were their motives, they failed miserably because
- 0:19they all died horrible martyrs' deaths.
- 0:21So that's one of the greatest empirical evidences of the resurrection is the
- 0:25fact that they were completely, totally, and utterly transformed.
- 0:29So that means they saw something. Something changed their perspective.
- 0:33And it's another same thing with like there's even James, the brother of Christ.
- 0:37How do you take a family member who knew Jesus Christ as his brother,
- 0:41who ended up becoming a believer, if the resurrection isn't true?
- 0:45That sometimes your greatest skeptics are going to be people in your family.
- 0:48Then you also have Paul, who literally persecuted and hailed women and men to
- 0:55prison over their faith in Christ.
- 0:58And he became a believer and ultimately was beheaded over his faith.
- 1:04You can't explain that. That's the problem, is you cannot humanly explain the
- 1:09change and the transformation of these people's lives.
- 1:11So, that's one of the greatest empirical evidences, is a changed life.
- 1:15Welcome to The Immutable Word. We are back for a new episode.
- 1:19We've been talking about the Baptist distinctives. We've gone through a couple
- 1:24of those already. So, we're just going to break from that series.
- 1:27Is just do a quick departure.
- 1:28We were talking in our last episode about doing maybe a special on the resurrection and the timing.
- 1:34And you and I were just talking about it for a good hour.
- 1:38Trying to figure out the timing, because you have the Gentile time that we're
- 1:43so used to, that I'm so used to, and then you have the Jewish time,
- 1:46which is completely backwards.
- 1:48And trying to understand the timing between when Christ died to when he rose
- 1:53is not a huge point of contention, but it sounds like most even Bible believers
- 1:59leave that it's not Wednesday,
- 2:01it's Thursday when he, well, he died on Wednesday.
- 2:06See, I'm already getting, I'm already confused, about it he died on wednesday
- 2:09evening he was put in the grave but the full three days and the full three nights
- 2:13start start thursday anyways i won't go into it now because i know that's what
- 2:18exactly what we're going to go into and the question is when did he rise you know what day was that,
- 2:24and so that's something that we're gonna gonna break down but you you and i
- 2:27were talking about it and i was just trying to wrap my mind around the whole
- 2:31timing and it's like i need to see this in the spreadsheet, and of course,
- 2:34he already had it in the spreadsheet.
- 2:37So, yeah, I think the, you know, we're going to talk today more really about
- 2:42the importance that the bedrock of our Christian faith is the resurrection.
- 2:47So, it's more topically based than to dive into the days and the hours, you know.
- 2:52But the point is, is that as Bible believers, the biggest confusion is the fact
- 2:58that there was two Sabbaths that week. so a lot of the reasons why evangelicals, Catholics, and.
- 3:05You know, others think that Christ was crucified on Friday, and that's why you get Good Friday.
- 3:10That's why you hear it everywhere. Good Friday, Good Friday,
- 3:13Good Friday, is that Jesus Christ was crucified on Friday.
- 3:16And the reason why is they said he had to be crucified before the Sabbath.
- 3:20Saturday. But they confuse the weekly regular Sabbath, Saturday,
- 3:26with the high day, which is the first day of Unleavened Bread after the Passover.
- 3:31That's a Sabbath. Okay? So, that's the confusion.
- 3:35So yes, there's people that believe, as far as Bible believers,
- 3:38there's a little bit of debate between was it Wednesday or was it Thursday?
- 3:43My biggest reason or the main contention I have is that Matthew 12,
- 3:4740 says it's three days and three nights.
- 3:50Now, the leeway some people with Thursday is that it's a Jewish idiom day could
- 3:56mean any time within a 24-hour period.
- 3:59It doesn't have to be strictly 24 hour period and they feel like if you do if he was.
- 4:06If he rose again early Sunday morning, that's actually the second half of the
- 4:11first day of the week because it doesn't start till Saturday evening.
- 4:14So the window of resurrection is anywhere between Saturday evening,
- 4:18after Saturday evening, 6.01 to 6 a.m.
- 4:23The next day, which would be Sunday, but that's all one day.
- 4:27So anyway, you know, without going into it, we just talked about this for over
- 4:30an hour, hour and a half, but the point is, is that the bottom line is that
- 4:34Friday was not the crucifixion. It's impossible.
- 4:37For me, my biggest contention with Wednesday into Thursday is that there had
- 4:41to be a day in between the crucifixion and the burial,
- 4:45or that Christ was in the tomb, is that the women had to buy spices.
- 4:53They couldn't have bought spices.
- 4:56If it was a Thursday crucifixion, they couldn't have bought spices Friday,
- 5:01because all day Friday morning into evening, Friday 6 p.m., is going to be the
- 5:09high Sabbath still, right?
- 5:11And then Friday evening into Saturday is going to be their Sabbath, their weekly Sabbath.
- 5:18So when could the women have bought the spices?
- 5:21If you're not supposed to, you cannot buy or sell, there's no markets open.
- 5:25They can't work on a Sabbath day.
- 5:28And if you have a Friday Sabbath, or you
- 5:31have basically a thursday sabbath and you have a friday sabbath when
- 5:34could they have bought the spices see the problem yeah there's no window right
- 5:38so there's no window and and not only that it
- 5:41technically makes a half a day period if
- 5:44you start thursday with the crucifixion by the evening because it said by the
- 5:47ninth hour which is about 3 p.m so that would have been 3 p.m thursday then
- 5:53the problem is is you now you're technically two and a half days not three days
- 5:57you have three days and two and a half nights basically so you don't have a full 72 hours.
- 6:03So, that's the reason why I go with Wednesday crucifixion, because it's the
- 6:07only, you know, it's the only mathematical formula that fits the Matthew 1240
- 6:13formula, which is three days, three nights in the heart of the earth, like Jonas.
- 6:17So, I take it literally. Some people take the idiomatic direction and say,
- 6:22well, you know, a day could mean any time.
- 6:25But the Bible, there's very specific passages that tell us day and night,
- 6:29you know. And it's very interesting.
- 6:31Yeah, it can be very confusing. It is confusing, but it's also very specific.
- 6:36So, when the Bible talks, when it describes its day, which I know you're probably,
- 6:40you might go through some of this, but when it describes its day,
- 6:43it describes 12 hours in a day, 12 hours in an evening, that's a full 24 hours.
- 6:47Three days and three evenings when it talks about Jesus. If you have to work,
- 6:51if you work strictly off of a 24-hour literal period of time,
- 6:56it's going to be a big challenge to argue for a Thursday crucifixion.
- 7:02It's going to be really difficult to do that.
- 7:04If you loosely interpret the 24 hours and it's not a strict 24 hours.
- 7:11You know, then, yeah, you could probably argue for a Thursday.
- 7:13But my thing is, if you can argue
- 7:15for a Thursday and the Jewish day is subjective, then why not Friday?
- 7:22I mean, you see what I'm saying? The problem is, is once you kind of lose that
- 7:27objectivity and you make it subjective to idiomatic language or cultural language,
- 7:33then you can almost interpret it any way you want.
- 7:36So it goes back to the rule of thumb is like we take it literally.
- 7:40Well, we're literalists. So if it says it, it's very specific in terms of the timing.
- 7:46So we just stick with that. We should always just lean towards that. Right.
- 7:51So, I'm not going to break fellowship over it, but the point is,
- 7:56if I'm going to believe a Wednesday crucifixion, I need to have good reasons for it, right?
- 8:01And so, I think it's a matter of deduction when you start looking at what the
- 8:05scriptures say, and you come to the conclusion that, okay, a Wednesday is the
- 8:09only one that mathematically fits correctly.
- 8:12It sounds like the whole crux of that, too, when it comes to the evidence is
- 8:15what you mentioned earlier, which is when the women had to go out to the market,
- 8:20the markets were open to buy spices.
- 8:23And that has to fit in between somewhere.
- 8:26Right. Mark 16.1 is when they went out and they bought the spices.
- 8:30Well, how'd they do that if it was in Luke 23.56 as well?
- 8:35How did they do that if it was a Sabbath day?
- 8:38They can't. No markets would have been open for them to buy spices.
- 8:42Yeah, no, the key thing is the high day Sabbath too, which is the Passover,
- 8:48which they're celebrating that week.
- 8:50So, when we say he's crucified before Passover, we're saying before Thursday,
- 8:55which will be Wednesday evening.
- 8:57The beginning of Thursday is Wednesday, 6 p.m.
- 9:00I was going to ask if you could quickly explain what the Jewish day looks like.
- 9:07Yeah, 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. is the evening. 6 a.m.
- 9:11To 6 p.m. is the day of the morning as they call it so the evening in the morning
- 9:15or the first day That's what it says in genesis.
- 9:17So they go by a lunar calendar So the jewish day technically starts at 6 p.m.
- 9:22So right now for us, it's 7 54 on a tuesday night We're technically into almost
- 9:30the second hour of wednesday evening Yeah, which would it starts with the evening.
- 9:36Yeah, not the morning like but when I say wednesday it's the entire evening and the morning, right?
- 9:42So we're two or three hours into Wednesday, basically, even though it's Tuesday evening.
- 9:48Yeah, but we start with Wednesday evening. In the morning. In the morning.
- 9:53See, this is why it's so confusing. It takes a while for your brain to come up around it.
- 9:59Yeah, I had to create a spreadsheet, and I literally—I mean,
- 10:02there's a book that I would recommend by Jeff Williams called Three Days and
- 10:06Three Nights, Solving the Crucifixion Paradox.
- 10:11And Brother Jeff Williams, he's
- 10:12a missionary, Baptist missionary in New Zealand. And it's a great book.
- 10:16It's not a big, exhaustive book, but what he does is he looks at every scenario.
- 10:19He runs through the typical objections. He goes through the timelines.
- 10:24He defines the days according to how the scripture defines those days.
- 10:28And so I think he makes a really good, strong case And provides a lot of good
- 10:33biblical evidence for the crucifixion And showing that the timeline is not contradictory
- 10:37That's one of the main objections,
- 10:39And I mean, I've seen Christians walk away from the faith Because they think
- 10:42that there's too many contradictions in the Gospels So.
- 10:46You know, I know that people, our brethren, that argue for a Thursday Won't
- 10:52say there's contradictions either, right?
- 10:53They wouldn't say that And I believe that they don't believe there are contradictions
- 10:57But from my point of view, I'm just saying that mathematically,
- 11:01when you stick to the definitions in Scripture, Wednesday makes the most sense, I guess, for me.
- 11:06So unless, you know, I heard a good argument for Thursday and they can get,
- 11:11you know, 72 hours, then maybe I would think about it. But I haven't.
- 11:15I guess that's my point. I would say this, that I could see how it's easily
- 11:21confused when it comes to the math,
- 11:25the Sabbaths that are occurring, and what we might define or how somebody could
- 11:32see what do we mean by the day.
- 11:34So between the Jewish days and the Gentile days, and you just mix it all in
- 11:38a pot, I could see where it can get really convoluted.
- 11:41Yeah. I mean, the main takeaway for believers is it wasn't Friday.
- 11:46I mean, at the end of the day, it wasn't Friday. No matter whatever the reasoning
- 11:51or the challenge with Thursday, Wednesday, the bottom line is there's no absolute
- 11:57way it could have been Friday.
- 11:58So people that, you know, talk about Good Friday this, Good Friday that have
- 12:03not carefully read the Bible.
- 12:04And the biggest reason they say Good Friday is because they don't know that
- 12:08there's two Sabbaths that week.
- 12:09A high day, a high Sabbath, which is the first day of Unleavened Bread that
- 12:14immediately follows this Passover.
- 12:17Passover was always, always, always on the 14th of the first month,
- 12:21which was called the Beb.
- 12:23That was the religious month. So the 14th of that month,
- 12:26then you would have seven unleavened days
- 12:29or seven days of unleavened bread where they would eat unleavened bread
- 12:32that's called the feast of unleavened bread well the whole thing was a feast
- 12:36of unleavened bread which included the passover but passover was followed by
- 12:41seven specific days where you ate unleavened bread and the beginning of that
- 12:46seven days was a passover and the end of it was a passover.
- 12:51I mean, I'm sorry, Sabbath. Hello. The beginning of the first day of Unleavened
- 12:55Bread after the Passover was a Sabbath.
- 12:58The end of the seven days of Unleavened Bread was a Sabbath.
- 13:03So, he had two Sabbaths in the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
- 13:06And so, which would be a week later, right? Seven days later.
- 13:09But the point is, is this, is that, and this is where there's some confusion
- 13:14too about the Easter in Acts 12.4, because some people argue that that is just
- 13:19the Christian Passover after the resurrection.
- 13:22Okay? But the problem is, is the Bible says, then were the days of unleavened
- 13:27bread, and they try to argue that Ezekiel 45,
- 13:30the whole thing is the unleavened Passover, or the feast of unleavened days
- 13:35is the whole thing, which includes Passover.
- 13:38However, they don't see the distinctions in some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy
- 13:42passages that say that it starts the 15th day, which is the day after Passover.
- 13:49The 15th day is the first day of seven days.
- 13:52And those days are specifically called the days of unleavened bread.
- 13:56So, if you read Acts 12.4, and it says, then were the days of unleavened bread,
- 14:01that means Passover is already passed. There is no more Passover.
- 14:05So, anyway, there's some interesting discussion around that.
- 14:10You know, especially an argument for the word Easter. There's a lot of debate
- 14:13around it. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
- 14:16One thing that helps us to understand not only how the Jewish days work,
- 14:21but understanding the holidays and the Sabbaths and the feasts and the days.
- 14:26Yeah, when we say holidays, it means holy days. Holy days.
- 14:29Holy day for them are going to be their feasts.
- 14:32Feast of unleavened bread, the feast of first fruits, the feast of tabernacles, right?
- 14:37They had seven different feasts that they would follow in their Jewish year.
- 14:41So Passover was obviously the most important because that's when they were,
- 14:45you know, came out of Egypt.
- 14:47And that's the memorial. And of course, the Bible says, according in Corinthians,
- 14:50Paul says, Christ is our Passover for the Gentile believer.
- 14:55So, a lot of typology there and pictures, you know, of Christ.
- 14:59But anyway, there's, I mean, all that is deeper dive. What I wanted to do today
- 15:04was actually talk about why the resurrection was important to the Christian faith.
- 15:08So, you know, we can get marred and we can get mired, I guess. Yeah, there it is.
- 15:14We can get mired in all the details. I mean, honestly, it's a big quagmire.
- 15:18Just like me. We can spend 18 episodes just talking about the timeline.
- 15:21We can talk about the feast of Passover, and that's an entire study in and of
- 15:26itself. It's fascinating.
- 15:27I think it helps just to understand a little bit of that. I was struggling.
- 15:31That's why we talked about it before we even started recording for like an hour,
- 15:35just trying to wrap my head around just the timing by itself.
- 15:40But yeah, to get back on track, I know the main purpose here is to— Yeah,
- 15:43the technical details of the resurrection are, I mean, again,
- 15:47it's a very deep dive type of study, right?
- 15:52There's a lot of technical details, you know.
- 15:55But what I wanted to do, at least for this episode, is more from an apologetic
- 15:58standpoint, why does the resurrection matter compared to every other religion out there?
- 16:04So regardless of the timeline, regardless of the calendar week and the time
- 16:10frame of the Passover and all that other stuff, the bottom line is,
- 16:14why does the resurrection even matter to us?
- 16:17So that's really, to me, today we'll talk about that. And, you know,
- 16:21if we need to do a deeper dive into the Passion Week, I'm just telling you that...
- 16:25I think listening to it is much harder than if we had some kind of a visual
- 16:31aid to walk through because it's, it's just difficult to walk through. When we start our video.
- 16:36Unless we open up the Bible and we spend the next two or three hours going literally
- 16:40verse by verse, day by day, breaking out the definitions and so forth.
- 16:44That's what it's the little chart I put. And I just did it for Wednesday.
- 16:48I just did it just for Wednesday. The spreadsheet I did, it took me six months to put that together.
- 16:54Okay. And that was literally going through all those passages and trying to
- 16:58figure out where to put it on the timeline.
- 17:01All right. Well, we'll definitely shelve that for now because we know how deep
- 17:04we can go. But yeah, let's shift to this. I think this is a good study.
- 17:08And it really is the cornerstone or the bedrock for Christianity.
- 17:12It's another distinct—I know we've been talking about Baptist distinctives.
- 17:15I think this helps as a—would you say this helps as a differentiator,
- 17:20as a Christian? Well, I mean, as a Christian, I mean, because,
- 17:24you know, Catholics, they believe in the resurrection.
- 17:27Orthodox believe in the resurrection. Presbyterians, Protestants,
- 17:30they all believe in the resurrection.
- 17:32So, but the point is, is that the resurrection is literally the bedrock of our faith.
- 17:38Like you could take everything in the Bible, everything.
- 17:42And if you were to remove the resurrection, it would be absolutely meaningless.
- 17:46You can literally toss the entire bible
- 17:49in the trash can if there's no resurrection that's what
- 17:52we're trying to say we're basically saying our entire faith the
- 17:57entire cornerstone and foundation of our faith as christians why we're not mormons
- 18:03why we're not muslims why we're not buddhists why we're not hindus is is the
- 18:08resurrection that is the differentiating factor is the resurrection That's why
- 18:13we're not Muslims. That's why we're not Jews.
- 18:15We are Christians, Bible-believing Christians, and it all hinges on the resurrection.
- 18:22Paul's entire ministry, every
- 18:24single epistle, is basically rooted and grounded in the resurrection.
- 18:29So, it is the pinnacle of our faith. So, when you don't understand...
- 18:34Well, number one, the importance of the resurrection, it's going to be really difficult to defend it.
- 18:39If you don't understand how the resurrection plays a part in the gospel, it's the definition.
- 18:44It's literally part of the definition of the gospel Paul gives us, 1 Corinthians 15.
- 18:49Then, you know, it's going to be really hard to argue for your faith.
- 18:54So one of the things I think as Christians, we've talked about this over and
- 18:57over again, but I think it's worth trying to reestablishing is this.
- 19:00You know, we have an obligation of the truth, right? I mean,
- 19:03that's at the end of the day, you know, we've said it over again. I love the phrase.
- 19:07I'm going to keep using it, but we're supposed to be faithful stewards of the
- 19:10truth, right? 1 Corinthians 4.2, 2 Corinthians 4.1 and 2.
- 19:14We are supposed to be faithful ministers and stewards of the truth,
- 19:19which, you know, emphasizes our duty to what? Defend and uphold the faith.
- 19:241 Thessalonians 5.21, how many times have we quoted that, right? Prove all things.
- 19:282 Peter 3.15, give an answer. to be ready to give an answer to all men for the,
- 19:32you know, reason of the hope that's within us, you know, meekness.
- 19:36Jude 3, we're supposed to contend for the faith. So, the bottom line is that
- 19:40we have an obligation to defend and uphold the faith, not our opinion,
- 19:46not our preferences, but the faith.
- 19:48So, understanding the cornerstone of our faith is crucial, right?
- 19:52The bodily, bodily, not the spiritual resurrection, but the physical bodily
- 19:56resurrection of Jesus Christ is crucial.
- 19:59You know, our belief in our faith system, it's not a blind leap in the dark.
- 20:03It's a step into the light.
- 20:05You know what I mean? We're not following a blind faith. We're following a faith
- 20:09that's rooted entirely on the historical, physical resurrection of Christ.
- 20:13One way, you know, and again, without that literal triumph with Jesus Christ
- 20:17rising from the dead, our faith is completely, totally, utterly meaningless.
- 20:21It doesn't mean anything.
- 20:23And so that's why, you know, somebody once said, I think a great outline is
- 20:27that Christ's death proves that he was 100% human.
- 20:30His resurrection proves that he was 100% God.
- 20:33And so that argument that people go, oh, he was either human or God,
- 20:37that, you know, we call it the hypostatic union, is that he was 100% man and 100% God.
- 20:43I don't explain, I can't explain it. Don't ask me to explain it.
- 20:46All I know is that's what the Bible reveals.
- 20:50So the cornerstone of christianity i don't know if people thought
- 20:52about this alan but if you think about this way right either jesus christ you
- 20:57know if if there was no crucifixion okay let's just say if there was no crucifixion
- 21:01and jesus christ just died on the cross then either he was you know it was the
- 21:07heroic end of a misguided martyr yeah,
- 21:11or it was the pathetic demise of a deranged madman, or it was the rightful execution of a fraud.
- 21:17If he didn't rise from the dead, that's what, you know, Christ's death would mean.
- 21:23So, the, you know, the resurrection is what transformed the crucifixion,
- 21:28right, from some tragic, horrible Roman tragedy, right, into this triumphant
- 21:34atonement of sacrifice that Christ made for the sins of the world.
- 21:38And it's like God saying amen to his substitutionary blood atonement,
- 21:43what he did when he shed his blood on the cross, when he died, he was buried.
- 21:47It basically proved that Jesus Christ, all his prophecies were valid. It validated Christ.
- 21:53It validated our faith, so forth and so on.
- 21:56So, if you think about it this way, Christianity is different in the fact that.
- 22:00If you were to go in, you know, in archaeology and discover the bones,
- 22:05and you can, you can go, So, I mean, Muhammad's bones are there in Riyadh or in Saudi Arabia.
- 22:11If you were to pick up his bones, you know what you can do? You could still be a good Muslim, right?
- 22:16If you found, if you discovered the bones of Buddha, you could still seek enlightenment.
- 22:22It wouldn't affect your faith whatsoever.
- 22:24If you discovered the ashes of the Hindu deity, Hinduism would go on unabated.
- 22:30There'd be no problem with it. But if you were to find one bone of Jesus Christ,
- 22:35our entire faith would be completely destroyed.
- 22:39That's the difference between Christianity and every other religion.
- 22:44The resurrection distinguishes our faith from every faith in the world.
- 22:50Okay? And, you know, we talked about this before, but in 1 Corinthians 15,
- 22:56you know, Paul is talking and defending about what the gospel is.
- 23:00He says, you know, what the gospel is, is the death, burial,
- 23:02and resurrection of Christ.
- 23:03So, he creates, you know, he writes this logical argument in 1 Corinthians 15
- 23:08that defends this cornerstone.
- 23:11So, apparently, there was those in the Corinthian church that either denied
- 23:15or questioned or doubted, you know, the resurrection.
- 23:18And he uses a logical construct that we call it the reductio ad absurdum,
- 23:24which means reducing an argument to absurdity.
- 23:26He actually argues from the reverse. He says, what if the skeptics are right?
- 23:30What if there is no resurrection of the dead? And so, he demonstrates six specific
- 23:35things in this argument.
- 23:37Number one, if Christ is not risen, right, then if dead men don't rise,
- 23:43then Jesus Christ, who partake of the flesh, is still in the grave.
- 23:47So, number one. So, if he doesn't, if he never rose from the dead,
- 23:50obviously, he's still in the grave.
- 23:52Number two, our preaching is in vain. If he's in the grave, then everything
- 23:57we preach, there is no gospel.
- 23:59All of the apostolic preaching, the preservation of scripture,
- 24:03all of it means absolutely nothing.
- 24:07So he even says our preaching is vain. And he says, if our preaching is vain,
- 24:10then guess what? Our faith is in vain.
- 24:13Every believer, you know, that is trying to serve God today is believing a lie.
- 24:18They're basing their entire faith on something that's untrue.
- 24:21And our faith, the Bible says in Romans 10, 17, so then by faith cometh by hearing
- 24:25and hearing by the word of God. That means the word of God is false.
- 24:31And then, of course, if our faith is vain, then our witness is false.
- 24:36That means, you know, the testimony, the historical testimony of Christ rising
- 24:41from the dead is a lie. It's a fraud.
- 24:44The apostles were imposters and liars. And then, of course, if all that's true,
- 24:49then guess what? We're dead in our sins.
- 24:51Because it was our sin that Christ nailed to the cross. It said that he became
- 24:55sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him, 2 Corinthians 5.21.
- 25:01So, we're still in our sins if Christ didn't rise from the dead.
- 25:04And of course, if Christ never rose from the dead, then those Christians who
- 25:11have died in the past are dead forever.
- 25:14They're eternally lost. They will never rise again. There is no future hope.
- 25:19So Paul reduces that skeptic argument about Christ not rising,
- 25:23and he basically reduces it to utter despair.
- 25:27But then he comes to the conclusion in verse 20 of 1 Corinthians 15,
- 25:32but now is christ risen from the
- 25:35dead because the resurrection is an empirical fact
- 25:38it proves that truth is stronger than
- 25:41lies good you know good is stronger than evil and love is stronger than hate
- 25:44because that is essentially the victory that christ had over death and in the
- 25:50grave the reason why you know in john 11 you know you have lazarus who died
- 25:56right and remember mary and Martha, they're distraught and upset over it.
- 26:01And he's, and you know, they, they're, they, it's almost like they lose hope.
- 26:04And he says, don't worry, I'm the resurrection and the life.
- 26:07So, the reason why there's hope of those that have passed is because of the resurrection.
- 26:12So, you know, our mom and dad passed on many, many years ago.
- 26:17We would absolutely have no hope of ever seeing them again if Christ is not risen from the dead.
- 26:22So, the bottom line is this, is that the resurrection is the cornerstone and
- 26:27the pinnacle of our faith.
- 26:28And if Christ is not risen, all the implications, the horrible implications
- 26:34would be true. So, you and I have just wasted our entire year doing this podcast,
- 26:40trying to defend the faith.
- 26:41That's how important the resurrection is. One of the things,
- 26:44you know, again, you know, we talked about it already.
- 26:47I'm not going to try to belabor the point, but Good Friday is impossible.
- 26:50The Bible says Christ is our Passover. So, a Friday evening burial and a Sunday
- 26:55morning resurrection would only yield 36 hours maximum.
- 26:58So, mathematically, it's impossible that he was crucified. You can't squeeze
- 27:03three days and three nights out of a Friday crucifixion.
- 27:05You have to be able to satisfy that 72 hours.
- 27:10So that's why Wednesday crucifixion makes the most sense. That's where you can
- 27:14fulfill Matthew 12, 40, where Jesus Christ said, For as Jonah was three days
- 27:18and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of Man be three days
- 27:21and three nights in the heart of the earth.
- 27:23So he says three days and three nights, three days and three nights,
- 27:26three days and three nights.
- 27:27I believe three days and three nights means exactly that, three days and three nights.
- 27:32And by the way, that was the only sign that Jesus Christ said would be spoken
- 27:37of against the Son of Man, is the crucifixion.
- 27:40And when Paul was at odds and he was surrounded by Sadducees and Pharisees,
- 27:45he raises his hand, he goes, of the hope of the resurrection am I called into question.
- 27:50His entire ministry hinged on the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
- 27:55So it's imperative. People understand that, right?
- 27:58And Good Friday, you cannot get that 36-hour day.
- 28:01So if I already give a rough timeline, Wednesday is the 14th of Nisan,
- 28:06which is the Passover. Okay?
- 28:10Christ, our Passover lamb, he's crucified by the third hour,
- 28:139 a.m., right? Wednesday morning, which is the second half of Wednesday,
- 28:18because the beginning of Wednesday actually started Tuesday evening.
- 28:21So 9 a.m., he's crucified.
- 28:24And he dies at the ninth hour, which is 3 p.m., the ninth hour of the day.
- 28:30So if the first hour of the day starts at 6 a.m., 3 p.m. is the ninth hour from 6 a.m.
- 28:37So because Sabbath was rapidly approaching, sundown, Meaning 6 p.m.
- 28:42Was Thursday. That's the beginning of that Sabbath day.
- 28:45He had to be buried before the Sabbath day. So it was ending Wednesday,
- 28:503 p.m., just so people know that there's only three hours left in that day at 3 p.m.
- 28:57So, the high day Sabbath, which is the 15th of Nisan, which is the second,
- 29:01the day after the 14th, so Passover is the 14th, the 15th of Nisan is the high
- 29:07day, which is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
- 29:11It's a special high day Sabbath of rest. So, if you go back and read Exodus
- 29:1512, verses 15 through 16, and John 19 through 31, you notice that no work could be done.
- 29:21That's why the markets were closed, the women couldn't buy spices,
- 29:25because you basically went into the Thursday. By 6 p.m.
- 29:29Wednesday night, that's Thursday, the evening, that's the beginning of Thursday.
- 29:34So by that time, all the markets are closed. They can't buy spices.
- 29:38And that would continue all the way until the next day.
- 29:44So for Thursday till 6 p.m. Thursday evening.
- 29:49Friday evening would be the beginning where the markets opened.
- 29:52So, the normal workday, basically, you would have from Friday evening until
- 29:58Friday, the next day, 6 p.m.
- 30:00So, they would have basically those 24 hours.
- 30:03You know, if markets open, you know, Thursday night into Friday,
- 30:07it's more than likely going to be Friday morning, 6 a.m.
- 30:10Till 6 p.m. The second half, the second 12 hours. Yeah, because the Bible says,
- 30:14aren't there 12 days in a workday, right?
- 30:18That's what Christ says. Are there 12 days in a day? And he was talking about
- 30:21that with regard to working. So they had 12 hours to work.
- 30:24So 6 a.m. Friday morning until 6 p.m. Friday evening, the markets were open.
- 30:30The women can go and buy spices.
- 30:32If you have a Thursday crucifixion, that would be impossible.
- 30:37So not only that, he had to be crucified before Sabbath. Friday wasn't the Sabbath.
- 30:42So Friday, the workday, the markets open. And then Saturday,
- 30:46that's the weekly Sabbath.
- 30:48That's the regular Seventh-day Sabbath. The women had to buy the spices and
- 30:52prepare him for the dead and all this other stuff before that time frame.
- 30:56So that's the internal biblical proof, right?
- 31:00The women, Mark 16, 1, they said when the Sabbath was passed.
- 31:04Well, that's obviously not Saturday because he rose again from the dead already.
- 31:08So when the Sabbath was passed, well, what Sabbath are they talking about? It's got to be Thursday.
- 31:13The high Sabbath. Yep. And then of course, yet Luke 23, 56 says,
- 31:19prepared the spices and ointments and they rested the Sabbath day.
- 31:24Well, how does it when they buy the spices when the Sabbath has passed and then
- 31:29they rest the Sabbath day?
- 31:31Unless you have a break in between, that's Friday. That's the only way it works.
- 31:36How can you buy spices after the Sabbath yet prepare them and rest on the Sabbath?
- 31:40The answer unlocks perfectly if you use the
- 31:43chronology that thursday was a high sabbath to pass
- 31:47and then friday morning they went to open the markets to buy the spices and
- 31:51then they rested the regular saturday sabbath i mean it was a good friday to
- 31:55do that to buy the spices it was a very good friday yeah there you go so so
- 32:00only on a wednesday crucifixion you have a sabbath plus workday plus sabbath
- 32:03scenario that's the only way it works you can't do it with thursday.
- 32:07So that, you know, the Bible's obviously vindicated a Good Friday tradition is demolished.
- 32:12And Saturday evening at sunset, exactly 72 hours had passed and Christ rose from the dead.
- 32:16So here's some of the objections to the resurrection. And this is where,
- 32:20as Christians, we ought to learn how to defend our faith.
- 32:23So there's three theories we'll talk about. So number one is called the swoon theory.
- 32:27And this is where they argue that Jesus merely fainted on the cross.
- 32:32So he didn't really die, but, you know, from weakness.
- 32:35But then later on, he revived in a cool, damp tomb.
- 32:38And obviously medically and logically this is preposterous because
- 32:41prior to the crucifixion jesus was scourged with an inch of his life i mean
- 32:46basically when you know you're talking about pieces of broken glass and metal
- 32:50and shards were on the end of that whip and it shred him to pieces i mean there
- 32:55was there was you know you could probably see parts of his inside,
- 32:59and a man that would bleed out like that would have no strength to try to rise
- 33:04himself you know raised himself from the dead.
- 33:06So, prior to the crucifixion, he was scourged within an inch of his life.
- 33:09His side was pierced with a Roman spear to confirm death. And the Bible says
- 33:13that both water and blood came out.
- 33:16And I can't remember the medical term for it, but that basically says he died
- 33:21of asphyxiation and something similar to a heart attack.
- 33:25So, he was already dead, the fact that water and blood came out.
- 33:30His side was pierced, right? So, So then Nicodemus, after that,
- 33:34he wrapped the body with 100 pounds of embalming spices.
- 33:37So myrrh, aloes, and these were all poisonous.
- 33:41They would have suffocated a weakened man after his weakened state.
- 33:44So it's highly irrational to suggest that a half-dead, severely mutilated man
- 33:51could unwrap his own mummy-like grave clothes, push away a massive stone from the inside,
- 33:56overpower a squad of heavily armed Roman guards, then present himself to the
- 34:00disciples as a glorious conqueror of death.
- 34:02So the swoon theory just falls apart. Medically, it's impossible.
- 34:07Then there's the theft theory. So, this was the very first lie,
- 34:11if you think about it, propagated against the resurrection.
- 34:13That was the Jewish Sanhedrin. They bribed those guards and said,
- 34:17look, basically, we're going to give you money, but whenever you're questioned,
- 34:21you tell everybody that his disciples came by night and stole them away while we slept.
- 34:26So, that's what you tell them. So, the logical absurdity of this claim is self-evident.
- 34:30So, how could sleeping guards, well, how would they even know who stole the
- 34:34body if they were asleep?
- 34:36Right? You just, you knew it was the disciples. How would you know it was the disciples?
- 34:42Furthermore, the disciples were cowards. They all fled at Christ's arrest, right? In the garden.
- 34:50So, Peter even cowered before young men, and he even denied Christ three times.
- 34:55So, they lacked the courage and the martial prowess to overcome a trained Roman
- 34:59watch. How would that have happened?
- 35:01It's ridiculous. It doesn't stand in the line of reasoning.
- 35:05So the theft theory falls apart. Then you have the hallucination theory, okay?
- 35:10Well, let me put it this way. On the theft theory, if there was a hasty grave robbery,
- 35:16why would the thieves take the time to meticulously unwrap the body and leave
- 35:20the linen grave clothes perfectly in place, folded with the head napkin wrapped
- 35:26together in a place by itself? John 20, verses 6 and 7.
- 35:30I mean, it doesn't make sense, right? That's not the behavior of men trying
- 35:34to steal a body at night from a Roman guard, you know, watch of guards.
- 35:38Then, of course, the hallucination theory is that the disciples just experienced
- 35:41a grief-induced hallucination of the risen Christ.
- 35:45However, here's the problem. Psychological hallucinations are highly individualized
- 35:50internal events like a dream.
- 35:52There's no historical or psychological precedence for large groups of people
- 35:58having the exact same sustained detailed multi-sensory hallucination.
- 36:04It's one thing if you hallucinated something. It's another thing if both of
- 36:08us hallucinate the same thing.
- 36:10But the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 15, 6, that he appeared to over 500 people.
- 36:15And Paul said that the majority of those were still alive to his day when he was writing that.
- 36:22This is almost 30 years later, to corroborate the claim that Paul was writing in his epistle.
- 36:28So it's a historical record of evidence, is what it is. It's a historical eyewitness testimony.
- 36:35And historical eyewitness testimony works a certain way.
- 36:38So the disciples weren't expecting the resurrection, okay? This is another problem.
- 36:43They were steeped in grief.
- 36:45They struggled with doubt and unbelief and skepticism.
- 36:50Thomas outright refused to believe that Christ arose from the dead until he
- 36:54physically touched his wounds, right?
- 36:57Hallucinations simply cannot be touched. You can't touch a hallucination.
- 37:00And finally, a hallucination doesn't explain the missing corpse.
- 37:05The authorities needed only to walk down the street to the tomb,
- 37:08produce the rotting body of Christ, and totally shatter the beginning of the
- 37:11church, but they didn't.
- 37:14That would have been the best way to squash Christianity at its birth is produce the body of Christ.
- 37:20So, the hallucination theory doesn't work. So, at the end of the day,
- 37:24you know, these theories, again, they're attempts to try to discredit the crucifixion. Why?
- 37:29Because it is the root and the foundation of our Christian faith that is so utterly important.
- 37:34You know? So, I don't know if you've ever heard or thought about those theories
- 37:38before. Have you ever dealt with them?
- 37:40I've heard about the grave robber where somebody just stole the body and that was it.
- 37:46And that's how people that are skeptics would try to explain it.
- 37:50And the swoon theory, that's just utterly ridiculous just hearing about that,
- 37:56that when they crucified, when the Romans were just vicious,
- 38:00they made sure you were dead.
- 38:02I mean, that's why they stabbed Christ in the side to ensure that he was already dead. Right.
- 38:09And, you know, the other ones, the hallucination theory, I don't know, just think about that.
- 38:14That's just insane to think about. Doesn't make sense, yeah.
- 38:16No, it doesn't make any sense. You have to really, it's a stretch, any of these arguments.
- 38:23And they have to fight for these because they cannot accept a crucified and resurrected Christ.
- 38:30Because if you have a resurrected Christ, man, the implications for the lost
- 38:35believer, or the lost person, not lost believer, but the lost person,
- 38:39is that they're going to stand before God and be judged for their sins.
- 38:42Comes down to accountability.
- 38:45Yep. So ultimately, and then of course, ultimately, the most important evidence
- 38:49is the resurrection's reality in the apostles' radical transformation.
- 38:55So we just said that they were cowards.
- 38:57They all fled at the night of their rest. Peter denied Christ,
- 39:00right? They were scared to death.
- 39:03They didn't anticipate. I mean, even though Christ told them he would be beaten,
- 39:08crucified, and buried and raised again the third day, but they didn't believe
- 39:11that. Because as far as they were concerned, he was supposed to be the conquering
- 39:15messiah who was going to destroy all their enemies.
- 39:18So, after the crucifixion, they scattered everything.
- 39:22So there's no way that those men would have been recognizable as far as,
- 39:30you know, whenever you look at the beginning of Acts,
- 39:32when you see these men now openly preaching Jesus Christ and setting themselves
- 39:37up for persecution and martyrdom, right?
- 39:40Somebody once said, it's impossible.
- 39:42Men may die for a lie that they think is true.
- 39:48But it is a psychological impossibility
- 39:51for men to willingly die for something they know to be a lie.
- 39:56It's one thing to lie about something. It's another thing to die over that lie.
- 40:02If they'd stolen the body, then they would have known the resurrection was a hoax.
- 40:07And if money sets or power were their motives they
- 40:10failed miserably because they all died horrible
- 40:13martyrs deaths so that's one of the greatest empirical
- 40:16evidences of their faith is is
- 40:19of the resurrection is the fact that they were completely totally and utterly
- 40:23transformed so that means they saw something something changed their perspective
- 40:28and it's another same thing with like there's even james the brother of christ
- 40:32how do you take a family member who knew Jesus Christ as his brother,
- 40:37who ended up becoming a believer if the resurrection isn't true.
- 40:41Sometimes your greatest skeptics are going to be people in your family.
- 40:47And then you also have Paul who literally persecuted and hailed women and men
- 40:54to prison over their faith in Christ,
- 40:57and he became a believer and ultimately was beheaded over his faith.
- 41:03You can't explain that that's the problem is you cannot humanly explain the
- 41:09change and the transformation in these people's lives so that's one of the greatest
- 41:13empirical evidences is to change life.
- 41:16If you really think about that, when it comes to the skeptics that are out there,
- 41:22let's say that the claim is that the disciples were a bunch of deceivers and
- 41:25hoaxers and they were out.
- 41:28They had some motivation, just like you said, money or power or anything else.
- 41:32But really, what really got me thinking about it is that statement you said
- 41:40was, would anybody be willing to die for a lie that they know is a lie?
- 41:46I don't think anybody would. If you knew it was a lie, would you actually lay
- 41:49down your life for it? Yeah.
- 41:51It's a more articulate way to put it. But that's the question.
- 41:55If you knew it was a lie, you know it's a hoax, would you lay your life down for it? Right.
- 42:02I mean, it's a powerful, you know, it's a powerful reasoning thing.
- 42:04You can't just say that, oh, they just made it up.
- 42:08Yeah. No, it's a good piece of evidence and something that a lot of people don't
- 42:13really take into consideration when they're questioning it.
- 42:18Brother Keener brought this illustration up, and I thought it was a great illustration
- 42:22for kind of reinforcing the fact that it changed life is a very powerful testimony of evidence. So Dr.
- 42:30Harry Ironside, he was a preacher in the early 1900s.
- 42:34And I guess he was challenged by an agnostic or an atheist.
- 42:40And he tells a story where he was kind of challenged for like,
- 42:45prove Christianity is true.
- 42:47And he said, you know, I guess the guy that was challenging him said,
- 42:51I want you to prove the resurrection. I want you to prove the Bible is true.
- 42:54The Bible doesn't have any contradictions and so forth and so on.
- 42:57And he had actually, he recountered the challenge and he basically said,
- 43:04look, okay, I'll tell you, I'll tell you this.
- 43:06He was challenged by the debate and he agreed on the condition that the challenger,
- 43:11and this is what he said, you bring two people whose lives were morally transformed by agnosticism.
- 43:18And when you can produce two people, he goes, then I'll produce a hundred people
- 43:24whose lives have been transformed by the gospel.
- 43:27And the agnostic withdrew his challenge.
- 43:31Think about that. How many people do you know of that will come to you and say,
- 43:35when I rejected religion, I became agnostic, my life was ultimately fulfilled,
- 43:40and it became better morally than it ever was before?
- 43:45You're going to have a really hard time finding that.
- 43:49So it was at a Salvation Street meeting in San Francisco when he did that.
- 43:53So I thought that was interesting.
- 43:54You know, he says, I tell you what, you bring me two people whose lives were changed morally.
- 44:00Their entire life was morally transformed for the better by turning to agnosticism.
- 44:05He goes, and I'll bring you a hundred people whose lives have been changed by the gospel.
- 44:09It's impossible. There's no hope in that way of life and being agnostic.
- 44:14There's nothing to look forward to. So how can you do that?
- 44:17There's no way you can do it. That's it. All they got is right here, right now.
- 44:21What's that? I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was just saying, all they got is right
- 44:24here, right now, the present time. That's it. That's the only hope they have. No real hope.
- 44:30So, obviously, we don't worship a dead martyr. We worship a living Savior.
- 44:35He's provided infallible proofs, both flesh and bone, because remember,
- 44:38he went to the disciples. He said, you think I'm a ghost?
- 44:41He goes, give me that fish. I'll eat it, you know.
- 44:45And he ate it in front of him. He goes, go ahead and touch my hands.
- 44:47And he tells Thomas, right?
- 44:49So, you can't touch something that's spiritually resurrected,
- 44:52you know, but you could touch something that's physically resurrected,
- 44:55and that's exactly what Jesus Christ proved whenever he came to them.
- 44:59So, both the chronological, the historical, the logical evidences all defend an empty tomb.
- 45:05And again, the greatest evidence being the changed life of a believer.
- 45:09So here's what's interesting about it. There's a couple quotes I thought was really interesting.
- 45:14Thomas Arnold, he's a former chair of modern history at Oxford,
- 45:19said this, I know of no one fact in the history of mankind.
- 45:24Which is proved by better and fuller evidence of every sort to the understanding
- 45:29of a fair inquirer than the great sign which God has given us that Christ died
- 45:35and rose again from the dead.
- 45:37So, he said there's no other fact of history that's greater than the resurrection of Christ.
- 45:43And then Gary Habermas, he's a historian and philosopher, he said this,
- 45:47if Jesus was raised from the dead, then he is Lord and Christianity is true.
- 45:52If he were not, then Christianity is false and the resurrection is the central
- 45:57point of our faith, basically.
- 45:59So, the Bible says in Luke 24, 5, and as they were afraid,
- 46:03they bowed their faces to the earth and they said unto them the angels said
- 46:06why seek ye the living among the dead jesus christ
- 46:09is a living savior our faith is based off
- 46:12of the resurrection and the resurrection is
- 46:15based off of infallible inerrant immutable truths and so and the lord you know
- 46:23there's tons of internal evidence of it but reasoning through it it just it's
- 46:27just the central fact and i think every Christian needs to understand the importance
- 46:31of the resurrection and be able to defend it, be prepared to defend it.
- 46:35So, the more you understand about the resurrection, and I always make it an
- 46:38exercise every, you know, every year, right, during Easter and resurrection.
- 46:44You know, we call it Resurrection Sunday, right, where we focus on the resurrection.
- 46:48The Christian ought to focus on the resurrection of Christ every week of their
- 46:51life, but I think it's a good...
- 46:55Exercise to stop and make sure, do I understand the importance of the resurrection?
- 47:01Can I logically and apologetically defend the resurrection?
- 47:05Can I walk through the biblical events surrounding the resurrection?
- 47:09And I think every Christian should strive to be able to articulate it in a way
- 47:15that will convince the lost person or the skeptic or maybe the person on the
- 47:19fence that Christianity is true.
- 47:22Yeah, solid, powerful.
- 47:25And people can find this in Substack in terms of some of the,
- 47:29I would say show notes, but this is a, you wrote a post about it as well.
- 47:35And something that we can link into the description for folks to reference.
- 47:42And I would just say, if it's something to whet your appetite, do it.
- 47:45But I would also, I'll send you the link to the book, Alan, we could put it
- 47:50in the show notes, but I would also highly recommend Brother Williams' book,
- 47:55Three Days, Three Nights. Oh, yeah. Okay.
- 47:57And what's the first and last name? If anybody's looking at it.
- 48:01Williams, Williams. So, Jeff. Yeah, Jeff Williams. Jeff Williams.
- 48:05Okay. Yeah. Jeff Williams, Three Days, Three Nights.
- 48:09Yeah, you're making me type and talk at the same time.
- 48:12Just trying to throw you off, man.
- 48:15So, I never read the book. I might. I'll check it out myself. I'm sure it's on Amazon.
- 48:20Yep. You can get on Kindle. You can get it on, uh, yeah, regular, uh, paperback. Cool.
- 48:26Yeah. Well, we'll be sure to put the, the link to that. And then also the link
- 48:31to the, the sub stack that you wrote your, your post around this.
- 48:36It's got some graphics in it too.
- 48:39Yeah, I mean, we can always, you know, there's a lot of stuff to cover,
- 48:43but yeah, that's good, yep.
- 48:45Cool. Well, I think that was a good thing to cover. Just Easter just passed
- 48:51this last Sunday a couple days ago.
- 48:53So if anybody has any questions, I know we were a little technical in the very
- 48:57beginning because that was just my curious mind.
- 49:00And we were on the verge of arguing before the podcast about how the timing
- 49:06was working because I just, I was slow to understand.
- 49:09Like with a lot of things. But if there's questions around that,
- 49:12I mean, we can even do a feature podcast covering the timing around it and get
- 49:16a little bit more technical because it is fascinating. It's very, very interesting.
- 49:20And I think there's a lot of value of knowing the details around this.
- 49:26This would strengthen your argument if people have questions or are questioning
- 49:30when the resurrection happened or if you're talking to a Catholic,
- 49:33you can answer confidently if you know the timing.
- 49:38So any questions just shoot it over to us you know where to find us mutableword.gmail.com,
- 49:43and Robert's TikTok account you know just shoot him a chat or something,
- 49:49and check out the Substack I know you've been writing a lot of or you're starting
- 49:53to do a lot of posts now on Substack yeah I'm trying to get some stuff in there
- 49:57I'm kind of playing around with it you know because eventually we wanted to do a blog for our site,
- 50:04Substack kind of offers a nice little neat platform.
- 50:07It's just tied to my name right now. I'm hoping to try to somehow get it tied
- 50:12to Immutable Word. That was the plan, at least.
- 50:16Yeah, Immutize it. Yep.
- 50:19Nice. Yeah, so this is working out now until we get a website up at some point in time.
- 50:25So check it out. We'll put the link down in the description.
- 50:29Anyways, I think we'll wrap it up there unless you've got anything else to add, any last rounds.
- 50:34No, I'm good, man. Awesome. All right. Well, we'll see everybody next week.
- 50:39We will probably return to the series that we've been running,
- 50:43which is the Baptist Distinctives. If you haven't listened to those two episodes,
- 50:47listen to the last two, went through the intro.
- 50:49The introduction and Bible as a final authority. Yep. Starting with the Bible.
- 50:54Then autonomy of the church will be the next one we do. This is the A in the
- 50:58acrostic, right? Which is just the acronym. Cool.
- 51:01All right. Something to look forward to. We'll see everybody next week.