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SUZANNE MORPHEW SHOCK AUTOPSY: SHOT WITH TRANQUILIZERS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Breaking news tonight.
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Speaker 2: Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew goes missing on Mother's Day, seemingly
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Speaker 2: torn off her mountain bike to vanish into thin air,
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Speaker 2: but then her body found in a shallow grave miles
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Speaker 2: away in the last hours.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne Morpheus autopsy released.
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Speaker 2: Not only was Suzanne murdered, she was shot full of
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Speaker 2: animal tranquilizers before her death. Just what does the deadly
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Speaker 2: drug cocktail extracted from her bones reveal? Good evening, I'm
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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Well, Suzanne.
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Speaker 4: If anyone is out there, I can hear this that
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Speaker 4: has you. Please, We'll do whatever it takes to bring
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Speaker 4: you back. We love you when you miss you your girls,
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Speaker 4: even no questions asked, however much they want, I will
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Speaker 4: do whatever it takes to get you back from me.
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Speaker 4: I love you and I want you back.
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay?
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Speaker 2: Whoever took her shot or full of animal tranquilizers before
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Speaker 2: they killed her? I mean powerful animal tranquilizers. We've got
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Speaker 2: an all star panel makes sense of what we know.
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Speaker 1: But listen to this. Be torphinal A Zaperone.
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Speaker 2: Meta to my Dean They first identified her through her
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Speaker 2: dental records and the port she had on her body
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Speaker 2: she was in remission for cancer, then later DNA extractor
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Speaker 2: from her knee. I'm curious, was she wearing the clothes
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Speaker 2: that the medical examiner got already in bags?
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Speaker 1: Could we even tell? Were her bones so.
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Speaker 2: In a state of de comp and completely skeletonize that
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Speaker 2: she was out of her clothes? What more are we
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Speaker 2: learning from this deadly drug cocktail? And according to experts
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Speaker 2: in the Colorado region, hunters do not hunt with animal tranquilizers.
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Speaker 1: But guess who does use them? Barry Morphew.
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Speaker 2: He says he uses animal tranquilizers to shoot deer to
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Speaker 2: get their antlers off of them, and that he may
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Speaker 2: have been using them to shoot chipmunks. Wow, what a
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Speaker 2: coinky dink because now his wife's body turns up, what's
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Speaker 2: left of it full of animal tranquilizers.
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Speaker 1: But that's a whole other can of worms. Don't worry,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to open it in just a few moments.
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Speaker 2: Joining me high profile investigative journalist Lauren Sharf, and you
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Speaker 2: can find her at Lauren Sharf TV. Lauren, thank you
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Speaker 2: for being with us on the story from the very beginning,
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about how her body was found
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Speaker 2: and what the autopsy revealed.
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Speaker 1: That was just released in the last hours. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with the autopsy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were just skeletal bones. There was no
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Speaker 5: actual tissue on the bones. It was scattered in Moffat, Colorado,
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Speaker 5: which is a desert area in Sawatch County. And there
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Speaker 5: was also a lot of clothing that was also found.
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Speaker 5: A padded bra a, ripped dark blue gray hooded sweatshirt,
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Speaker 5: a Nike tank top, yetti shorts, fabric fragments, there was
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Speaker 5: a ballclava, pink and light colored leather work gloves. So
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Speaker 5: there were other items besides skeletal remains that were there.
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Speaker 5: No shoes were found.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no shoes. I'm glad you mentioned that.
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Speaker 2: And I'm very intrigued by the balaclava that was found.
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Speaker 2: One of the head face coverings that we often see,
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Speaker 2: like on TV, terrorist serois wearing them where the only
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Speaker 2: thing you see are their eyes. Everything else is covered
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Speaker 2: and they typically come down over the neck and shoulders.
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Speaker 2: A pale patterned balaclava, a pink and light color leather
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Speaker 2: work glove, a light colored partial padded bra a ripped
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Speaker 2: dark blue gray hooded sweatshirt labeled crested butte, a torn
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Speaker 2: green Nike tank top, yetty shorts, and a fabric fragment.
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Speaker 1: What can we deduce?
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Speaker 2: All of the clothing and fabric fragment weathered and covered
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Speaker 2: in dirt. Very curious, joining me, as I said, an
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Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we are learning.
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Speaker 2: You're seeing shot of Suzanne Morphew in life, and she
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Speaker 2: seems very happy with her husband and two adult daughters.
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Speaker 2: But all was not as it seems. Trouble was brewing
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Speaker 2: within the marriage. But before I get to that, I
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Speaker 2: want to focus on these meds, these tranquilizers in her system.
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Speaker 1: And joining me is a renowned death.
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Speaker 2: Investigator, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, the
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Speaker 2: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and Starve.
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Speaker 1: And You Hit series Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 2: Joe Scott in a nutshell because also joining me, Joe
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Speaker 2: Scott is a very dear friend of Suzanne Morphew's. You know,
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Speaker 2: hold on, I see Cheryl McCollum has popped up Joe
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Speaker 2: Scott Cheryl in honor of Suzanne Morphew.
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing my Justice for Suzanne T shirt that.
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Speaker 2: You and I got when we were out investigating and
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Speaker 2: beating the bushes and trying to find answers in Suzanne's murder.
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Speaker 2: Are you at all surprised her body was shot full
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Speaker 2: of animal trunk?
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Speaker 6: Not at all.
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Speaker 7: I think it was exactly what he said.
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Speaker 8: He told people, I've got the dark gun, I've got
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Speaker 8: chemicals that I've got rid of, I've got needles, I've
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Speaker 8: got a cap that they found in the dryer. He
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Speaker 8: basically said it. He also told everybody that he was
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Speaker 8: running around the house hunting that could be leakage. He
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Speaker 8: has invoked this entire narrative and right down to her
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Speaker 8: having clothing on right that is not bedclothes, by the way,
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Speaker 8: and he said that's how we left her. It makes
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Speaker 8: complete sense to me that this was going to be
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Speaker 8: the result from her bone mare.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Cheryl McCollum and I trunked through. I can't even
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Speaker 2: tell you about the terrain that we I can't call
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Speaker 2: it hiking because it was slow going, looking and so
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Speaker 2: many spots hoping for the discovery of her body. The
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Speaker 2: discovery was made many miles from home in a shallow
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Speaker 2: grave Joe Scott Morgan. Back to you, Joe, Scott. Another
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Speaker 2: thing in this autopsy report is quote one weathered bullet. See,
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Speaker 2: I've got so many questions, Scott. Was the bullet in
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Speaker 2: the shallow grave? Were the bones in the shallow grave
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Speaker 2: where they scattered? Were the clothes still on the bones?
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Speaker 2: Six envelopes containing five fab brick fragments?
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Speaker 1: What's that? Okay? Jump in.
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Speaker 9: We have to understand if you look, if you look
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Speaker 9: at the autopsy report, Nancy, this is something fascinating, is
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Speaker 9: that this was not just a one day event where
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Speaker 9: they collected everything and put it in a single bag.
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Speaker 9: These bags are actually annotated to demonstrate that two of
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Speaker 9: them had been collected same day, labeled day one twice,
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Speaker 9: and then you have day two and day three where
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Speaker 9: they go out and they collect more remains. So that
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Speaker 9: gives you the understanding that these remains are shallow and
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Speaker 9: that they're probably scattered about. They even had some commingling,
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Speaker 9: apparently with animal skeletal remains out there as well, which
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Speaker 9: is kind of an herculean task on the part of
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Speaker 9: the anthropologist to delineate between these two items. So it
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Speaker 9: can be very confusing out there. And then and then
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Speaker 9: to top it all off, you have this weathered projectile
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Speaker 9: that's out there. I don't know, and this is going
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Speaker 9: to be fascinating to see as this plays out because
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Speaker 9: we don't have all of the reports. What does the
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Speaker 9: ballistic examination say about that round? What kind of weapon
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Speaker 9: platform is it associated with? Is it a twenty two
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Speaker 9: caliber or is it a seven point sixty two? We
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Speaker 9: have no idea. And also one more thing, Nancy, is
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Speaker 9: that we don't have any indication that a shellcasing, the
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Speaker 9: spent shellcasing was recovered, and that could be a big clue.
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Speaker 9: So yeah, lots of lots of evidence recovered out there,
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Speaker 9: not to mention the clothing. And there's still more analysis
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Speaker 9: I think to be done at this point in time.
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Speaker 1: A lot of analysis. And back to you.
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Speaker 2: Cheryl McCollum joining US, founder director Cold Case Research Institute.
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Speaker 2: You can find her at Coldcasecrimes dot org, hit podcast
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Speaker 2: Zone seven and forensics expert.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl.
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Speaker 2: I've been pouring over this autopsy report. They didn't give
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Speaker 2: us much, but they gave me enough. Just hold on,
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Speaker 2: two and two still equals four?
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Speaker 1: Right? Or is everything completely upside down?
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Speaker 2: Because didn't Barry morph you say he was using an
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Speaker 2: animal trank gun at the time of her death.
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Speaker 8: Correct, around the time she went missing. Correct, And Nancy,
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Speaker 8: here's the thing. They're not giving us a lot. That's
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Speaker 8: the right call. They're not going to tell us the caliber.
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Speaker 8: They're not going to tell us exactly the shape and
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Speaker 8: condition of that projectile.
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Speaker 7: There was also one found.
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Speaker 8: In the bedroom, on her side of the bed, on
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Speaker 8: the So do those two projectiles match.
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Speaker 7: They're not going to disclose that yet.
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Speaker 8: They're playing it close to the vest, which is what
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Speaker 8: they should do, so that when they go.
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Speaker 2: Hey, can everybody, can we just agree right now to
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Speaker 2: stop saying projectile? Okay, okay. If you're talking about a bullet,
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Speaker 2: say bullet. You're talking about a shell, say shell. If
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Speaker 2: you're talking about a trunk, leftovers of a trunk, say it. Okay,
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Speaker 2: now rephrase that and regular people talk. Cheryl, this goes
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Speaker 2: for you too, Joe Scott Morgan, Go ahead, Cheryl.
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Speaker 8: So there's two bullets, one that was found with her
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Speaker 8: at the disposal site and one found in the bedroom.
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Speaker 8: We don't know if they match. And again, they shouldn't
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Speaker 8: tell us that yet. They've got people to interview. So
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Speaker 8: when they go and they say, hey, we found a bullet.
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Speaker 8: Is the person going to say, was it a twenty two?
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Speaker 8: And again go back to Barry's original statement when he
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Speaker 8: got out of the truck after he was told she
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Speaker 8: was missing, and he gets home and they say, hey,
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Speaker 8: we found her bike down this ravine. The first thing
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Speaker 8: he says was you think a mountain lion got her.
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Speaker 8: He's the one that keep referring to large animals. He's
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Speaker 8: the one that's using a tranquilizer for large animals.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just an unbelievable story.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Cheryl McCollum. Listen, crash.
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Speaker 10: I mean the bike look the way it was laid,
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Speaker 10: that kind of looked like it, but.
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Speaker 7: There's not really that much damage.
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Speaker 11: A bike lion, yeah, lion.
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Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that.
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Speaker 7: I didn't see anything, and they're not letting.
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Speaker 3: Us go over the site because they're getting a track.
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Speaker 11: Jackson on the route.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything really, but like people.
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Speaker 10: You're lying, I didn't really know this, but I will lie.
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Speaker 3: I'm not like an extra tractor or something, you know.
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Speaker 1: A mountain lion, my rear end mountain lion. You know.
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Speaker 2: I could watch that bodycam video all day long and
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Speaker 2: then some Barry morphew, Suzanne's husband, jumps up and says
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Speaker 2: a mountain lion puts that out there. Now, just one
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Speaker 2: quick review, Joe Scott Morgan, tell me again about the
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Speaker 2: animal tranquilizer evidence found in Susanne's home. What was found?
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Speaker 1: Of course, this may be after a cleanup, but again
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Speaker 1: Barry Moore few is not a suspect and he has
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Speaker 1: not been named again for murder. Okay, tell me, Joe Scott.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, what we're thinking about here, Nancy, is this is
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Speaker 9: a very lethal cocktail. And that's the way I like
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Speaker 9: to frame it this Bam. I think it's referred to
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Speaker 9: as this deer tranquilizer essentially that's being used. You've got
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Speaker 9: three components here, Nancy, and you'd mentioned him off the top,
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Speaker 9: and if you'll just permit me, I'll go through them
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Speaker 9: very very quickly. With the beutrophenol, that's actually an opiate
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Speaker 9: based drug. Okay, So you think about a synthetic heroin
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Speaker 9: like morphine, like a drug that kind of induces sleepiness,
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Speaker 9: it also impedes your breathing. And then you go to
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Speaker 9: the azipirone, which is interesting term here. It's a syenic
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Speaker 9: which means like based in serenity. You think about people
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Speaker 9: that take valume or any other kind of benzo, it's
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Speaker 9: going to calm you down. It's actually used with hogs,
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Speaker 9: with pigs to slow them down if they're very, very aggressive.
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Speaker 9: And then you come to the final one, which is
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Speaker 9: this meta midian, which is actually a precursor to anesthesia Nancy.
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Speaker 9: Anybody that's ever been through surgery and you've had anesthesia,
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Speaker 9: you know that kind of milky warmness that comes over
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Speaker 9: you when they give you that first rug, that first injection.
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Speaker 9: It kind of knocks your system down. That's what you're
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Speaker 9: talking about. Any one of these drugs, Nancy, is lethal
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Speaker 9: when you take it at a high dosage. You got
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Speaker 9: a combination of three here, and to me, this speaks volumes.
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Speaker 9: And the fact the fact that they extracted this from
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Speaker 9: the head of her femur is damning, damning evidence.
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Speaker 1: Now now why do you say that? And the fact
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Speaker 1: that they had to extract it from the head of
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Speaker 1: her femur. By the way, guys, femur is a leg bone.
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Speaker 9: Go ahead, yeah, and literally where they took this from
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Speaker 9: Nancy is quite fascinating. We don't hear about this a
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Speaker 9: lot but they and all due respect here, but just
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Speaker 9: let me. They removed the head of the femur, which
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Speaker 9: is where it attaches into the hip, and that's one
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Speaker 9: of the densest areas of bone in the body. And
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Speaker 9: it's actually got vascular in there, like blood vessels, blood supply,
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Speaker 9: and they superheated it and extracted this this substance from
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Speaker 9: here and then they were able to break down into
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Speaker 9: its components. There's no soft tissue, Nancy. You don't have
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Speaker 9: organs to look at. You certainly don't have blood at
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Speaker 9: this point in tom and this is the only source
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Speaker 9: that you can get.
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Speaker 12: Inside the Morphew residents, investigators find empty darts, a needle
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Speaker 12: used to inject tranquilizer chemicals into the darts, and a
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Speaker 12: dart gun in Morphuse gun Safe. Investigators also find a
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Speaker 12: needle cap used to cover the injecting needle in the
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Speaker 12: dryer at the Morphuse house, along with clothes and bedsheets
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Speaker 12: from one of the couple's daughters. Morphew tells investigators he
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Speaker 12: uses tranquilizers to shoot deer to harvest their antlers. Investigators
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Speaker 12: also find a twenty two caliber round next to Suzanne
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Speaker 12: Morphuse bed.
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Speaker 13: Prosecutors theorize Barry Morphew kills Suzanne Morphew after he gets
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Speaker 13: home around two forty five On May the ninth, FBI
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Speaker 13: agent who reviewed evidence in the murder case against Barry
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Speaker 13: Morphew testified in court that Morphew appears to have been
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Speaker 13: chasing his wife, Suzanne Morphew, around their Colorado home the
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Speaker 13: day before Suzanne was reported missing. According to his cell
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Speaker 13: phone data, Morphew claims he was chasing chipmunks. Empty darts,
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Speaker 13: needles used to inject tranquilize their chemicals into darts, and
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Speaker 13: a dart gun are found in the house, and Morphew's safe.
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Speaker 13: A cap to a dart is found in the dryer.
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Speaker 13: After Suzanne vanishes, investigators take photos of injuries to Morphew's
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Speaker 13: hand and scratches that looked like they were made by
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Speaker 13: fingernails on his left arm.
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Speaker 2: Joining me as a special guest, Tish Leway, close friend
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Speaker 2: of Suzanne Morpheus, Tis, thank you for being with us. Hi,
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Speaker 2: Tis got a question for you when you heard the
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Speaker 2: autopsy results.
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Speaker 1: What went through your mind?
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Speaker 3: Honestly, I was thinking that that's how it was going
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Speaker 3: to come back anyway from probably I don't know. A
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Speaker 3: couple months ago, right after they found her. I know,
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Speaker 3: I said, I have a feeling that the autopsy's going
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Speaker 3: to come back, and she was tranquilized. I have my
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Speaker 3: own theories of how it went down, but it didn't
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Speaker 3: surprise me, to be honest, the only thing that surprised
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Speaker 3: me is that they found something after three years.
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Speaker 1: Tish got a question for you.
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Speaker 2: Again, very more Few was charged in Suzanne's murder.
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Speaker 1: Those charges were dropped.
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Speaker 2: He is at this moment no longer a suspect, no
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Speaker 2: longer a person of interest. The state asked for the
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Speaker 2: charges to be dropped when they were accused of not
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Speaker 2: handing over exculpatory or evidence that would prove innocence information
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Speaker 2: to the defense. The state asked for the charges to
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Speaker 2: be dropped, and that was done. They may be refiled.
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Speaker 2: As of right now tonight, Barry Moore Few is not
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Speaker 2: named as a person of interest or suspect in Susanne
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Speaker 2: Morphus's murder. That said, Tish, you stated that you had
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Speaker 2: your own theories. You are a very close friend, were
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Speaker 2: a very close friend of Suzanne Morphuse.
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Speaker 1: What's your theory of, as you say, how it went down.
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Speaker 3: This is what I've always said, I think he arrived
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Speaker 3: at two forty five.
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Speaker 1: I think he was.
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Speaker 3: She was in the backyard, may have saw her on
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Speaker 3: the phone with Jeff Libbler, and I think that's where
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Speaker 3: he shot her with a tranquilizer gun. I think she
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Speaker 3: got up. I think she ran. I think that that's
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Speaker 3: all that pinging was, you know, her running and him
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Speaker 3: chasing her. I think she ran up to Mallory's room
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Speaker 3: and I think that's where he shot her again with
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Speaker 3: the tranquilizer gun. And I think that's where the dark
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Speaker 3: cap fell. And I think she was there for, you know,
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Speaker 3: however long until he was to put her body where
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Speaker 3: he put her. But I think that's why those sheets
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Speaker 3: and the cap gun.
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Speaker 1: I think it was just in a.
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Speaker 3: Hurry, you know, trying to and didn't notice the dark
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Speaker 3: cap that they found.
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Speaker 1: In the dryer.
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Speaker 3: I mean, why would they find Mallory's sheets in the
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Speaker 3: dryer when she was in college.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's a really good pointsh Leeway.
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Speaker 1: Friend of Suzanne Morpheus, because I have certain.
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Speaker 2: Sheets that I put on Lucy's bed because they match
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Speaker 2: her bedspread that she picked out, and certain pillowcases she likes.
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Speaker 2: Same thing with my son his her blue same thing
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Speaker 2: with my mom because her bed is a different size.
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Speaker 1: So that's a really good point.
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Speaker 2: Why would the adult daughter Mallory's sheets nobody else's. It's
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Speaker 2: not like it was a cleaning day for Suzanne Morphew.
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Speaker 2: Why would her sheets alone be and the washer dryer.
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard a single soul bring that up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now you know what else would be interesting to find out, Tish,
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Speaker 2: is if Mallory's bed, say, was a double or a
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Speaker 2: queen and Suzanne's bed was a king. Hypothetically speaking, I'd
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Speaker 2: be very curious to find that out.
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Speaker 1: But you say it was they were mallory sheets, right.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's what was said. But that's been
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Speaker 3: my theory all along, that he as soon as he
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Speaker 3: got home.
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Speaker 1: I think she passed on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Yes, when you say that he came home to whom
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Speaker 2: are you referring.
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Speaker 3: When Barry came home?
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Speaker 1: Did you know that Susanne Moorephew?
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Speaker 2: Did you ever get information Suzanne Moorephew had gone to
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Speaker 2: a batter women's center for group therapy.
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Speaker 3: I did get information after she had went missing from
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Speaker 3: some people that were going to the same center.
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Speaker 1: So another lady in the group told you she had
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Speaker 1: been going.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I know the lady. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: reveal that here. That's a whole other can of worms. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let me understand something.
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Speaker 8: Two.
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Speaker 2: Chris McDonough joining me, who has been on the investigation
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Speaker 2: along with Eryl and myself.
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Speaker 1: Chris, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Chris is the director at the Cold Case Foundation, former
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Speaker 2: homicide detective, has investigated over three hundred homicides, and the
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Speaker 2: host on YouTube of the interview room where I.
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Speaker 1: First met him.
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Speaker 2: Chris, thank you for joining us again with this very
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Speaker 2: disturbing update on Susanne Morphew's autopsy results.
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Speaker 1: There's so much to glean.
21:46
Speaker 2: From the three pages that we have obtained, and hey,
21:50
Speaker 2: one of those pages is just the listing of five
21:53
Speaker 2: different doctors.
21:55
Speaker 1: You don't normally see that.
21:56
Speaker 2: Do You just got five different medical professional weigh in
22:01
Speaker 2: on this.
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Speaker 1: Usually there's one name scribbled at the bottom.
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Speaker 2: Man, they did it. I'll hold on four pages. Four
22:07
Speaker 2: pages and one is I noted five different experts weighing in.
22:13
Speaker 2: But they had to bring in a forensic dentist. I
22:15
Speaker 2: don't know if that's one of these. They had to
22:17
Speaker 2: bring in a toxicologist because of all the drugs, and
22:21
Speaker 2: I believe I've mastered their names beutorphenal A Zaparin and
22:28
Speaker 2: meta to my dean, I think. But I'm just gonna
22:31
Speaker 2: refer to it as the animal trenks. So Chris McDonough,
22:35
Speaker 2: could we just and everybody on the panel again, we're
22:39
Speaker 2: not having high tea at Windsor Castle with Charles and Camilla,
22:43
Speaker 2: so jump in for Pete's sake. We've got one hour
22:47
Speaker 2: to cover a major event in the law and in
22:51
Speaker 2: criminal justice ad to getting justice for Suzanne. That's where
22:55
Speaker 2: this T shirt says. And for me, it ain't just
22:57
Speaker 2: a T shirt. It's not just a slogan I want it,
23:02
Speaker 2: I want it again, barrymoreph you is not a suspect.
23:06
Speaker 1: So Chris mcdonnaugh add it up for me. Well, there's a.
23:10
Speaker 11: Couple of really interesting things going on here, Nancy. One
23:14
Speaker 11: is that perimortem trauma, there's no indication of that. What
23:17
Speaker 11: that means is there's no indication that the bones at
23:21
Speaker 11: their soft you know when they're the softest ie are alive,
23:26
Speaker 11: that there's any trauma to the bones. So that's the
23:28
Speaker 11: first thing. And when the bullet is found, we have
23:31
Speaker 11: to ask ourselves. Well, that means we may have to
23:34
Speaker 11: exclude some type of weapon i e. A sharp instrument
23:38
Speaker 11: and or even a gun. The second piece here is,
23:42
Speaker 11: if this couldn't get any more sinister, is we have
23:45
Speaker 11: to look at the fact that she has a medical
23:47
Speaker 11: port still on her body and found in that grave.
23:52
Speaker 11: So for me, as you know from an investigative position,
23:55
Speaker 11: my first thought was did he inject directly into that
23:59
Speaker 11: medical port and what Doc Morgan was talking about that
24:03
Speaker 11: would give the type of density necessary to find it
24:09
Speaker 11: four years later in the bones themselves.
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Speaker 10: I want to give you a little brief recap of
24:18
Speaker 10: what we've done since we received the call of Suzanne's
24:21
Speaker 10: disappearance on Sunday. Just in the area and in the
24:26
Speaker 10: general area. We've run foot searches using air support, canine support,
24:33
Speaker 10: swift water support, and we've also utilized countless hours of
24:36
Speaker 10: drone searches. We've used well over two hundred personnel and
24:40
Speaker 10: over two thousand man hours have gone into this search.
24:43
Speaker 10: But unfortunately we haven't found Suzanne yet, and as I
24:45
Speaker 10: stated before, that is our top priority.
24:48
Speaker 2: You were hearing the Chaffy County Sheriff Cheryl McCollum. Do
24:53
Speaker 2: you remember when we were out there last investigating and
24:58
Speaker 2: there was still snow on the ground, and we stood there,
25:02
Speaker 2: not too far from where Barry Morphy was then living,
25:07
Speaker 2: and just looked around at that terrain, covered in snow,
25:12
Speaker 2: covered in ice, and we thought, how in the h
25:17
Speaker 2: E double l are.
25:19
Speaker 1: We gonna ever find Susanne Nancy.
25:24
Speaker 8: For everybody to understand, you take an airplane to Colorado,
25:28
Speaker 8: and then you take a smaller airplane. Then you drive
25:32
Speaker 8: several hours. I mean, you're in the middle of the
25:34
Speaker 8: most gorgeous scenery, but you're in the middle of nowhere,
25:38
Speaker 8: and there was so much terrain. There's mountains and creeks
25:42
Speaker 8: and just this the snow banks. I know, at one point,
25:49
Speaker 8: you know, several people were standing there and on the
25:51
Speaker 8: other side you couldn't have seen them. I mean, the
25:54
Speaker 8: snow banks were that high, they were almost seven feet
25:58
Speaker 8: and you know, there was so much land wide open,
26:02
Speaker 8: not a building on it, not a house anywhere near
26:05
Speaker 8: that you could have in the cover of darkness or
26:08
Speaker 8: in broad daylight, could have disposed of her body without
26:12
Speaker 8: being seen.
26:12
Speaker 2: You know what, Let me just stop you right there.
26:15
Speaker 2: How is everybody on this panel so calm? There are
26:21
Speaker 2: way too many coincidences for me. Okay, number one, he
26:27
Speaker 2: happened he Bury Moore few happens to conjure up.
26:32
Speaker 1: And out of town. Let me see the guests, please.
26:34
Speaker 2: An out of town trip the morning on Mother's Day
26:39
Speaker 2: that Susanne moorefew goes missing, claiming he last saw her
26:45
Speaker 2: at early early in the morning asleep in bed.
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Speaker 1: Okay, leaving on Mother's Day.
26:52
Speaker 5: None of his daughters are also gone, right, thank you,
26:55
Speaker 5: Lauren Sharf.
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Speaker 2: The one time the daughters are away camping, Nobody even
27:00
Speaker 2: she's missing until they trying to call her on Mother's Day.
27:04
Speaker 2: So she's talking to her boyfriend on the phone. Oh,
27:09
Speaker 2: which reminds me to Tish Lee. Wait, did you you're
27:13
Speaker 2: a stylist? Did you do the hair of Bary Morphy's girlfriend?
27:18
Speaker 3: No, but I did meet her in October of twenty
27:21
Speaker 3: twenty when she came in to start tanning in the
27:24
Speaker 3: salon that I had worked at. Her and actually Macy
27:28
Speaker 3: and Mallory both they all came in about a week
27:32
Speaker 3: within each other. It was yeah, it was very bizarre.
27:37
Speaker 3: They were getting ready to go on that trip in
27:39
Speaker 3: January to Mexico.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, white, white, white.
27:43
Speaker 2: October twenty twenty, and Suzanne had gone missing May twenty twenty.
27:49
Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that what you said?
27:50
Speaker 3: She went missing maya, twenty twenty. But the girlfriend came
27:54
Speaker 3: into the tanning salon to start tanning in October of
27:58
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, which was right about a week to two
28:04
Speaker 3: weeks after Mallory and Macy had started coming into tan again,
28:10
Speaker 3: and they were getting ready to go to Mexico for
28:14
Speaker 3: their annual trip that they I guess they went to
28:18
Speaker 3: every year, is my understanding.
28:20
Speaker 1: Did the girlfriend go on the trip? I'm not sure.
28:23
Speaker 3: It was a weird coincidence that she came in right
28:26
Speaker 3: after they started tanning.
28:29
Speaker 1: I have never met her before.
28:32
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about another coincidence, and that is, in six
28:36
Speaker 2: months after Susanna is still missing, body not found, he's
28:43
Speaker 2: already got a girlfriend.
28:44
Speaker 1: That's a yes. Now did he already have a girlfriend
28:47
Speaker 1: to your knowledge? Within six years? She said that.
28:49
Speaker 3: So when I first met her, we had kind of
28:53
Speaker 3: heard this name that was out there. So when she
28:56
Speaker 3: came into the tanning salon, we know exactly who she was.
28:59
Speaker 3: The first couple time she came in, she didn't really
29:02
Speaker 3: talk much about anything.
29:04
Speaker 1: Well, let me just cut the chase for you. Was
29:07
Speaker 1: she wearing some of Suzanne's jewelry?
29:09
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was seen that it looked like her.
29:13
Speaker 1: Don't need to say anything else.
29:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that said as I was saying earlier, How
29:19
Speaker 2: is everybody on the panel so calm? With all the coincidences?
29:24
Speaker 2: You have him coming home. She's on the phone with
29:27
Speaker 2: her boyfriend. She says to the friend, Oh, my.
29:29
Speaker 1: Stars, Barry's here, gotta go bam. She goes missing.
29:33
Speaker 2: He has a hastily thrown together work trip out of
29:36
Speaker 2: town on Mother's Day. Again, my rear end leaving for
29:41
Speaker 2: a hastily throw together work trip out of town on
29:44
Speaker 2: Mother's Day. He calls back, but when he can't get
29:47
Speaker 2: her on the phone, when the daughters can't find her,
29:50
Speaker 2: and has somebody else.
29:52
Speaker 1: Call nine one pint one.
29:54
Speaker 2: She's full of animal trink and oh yeah, right before
30:00
Speaker 2: she went missing, I was shooting an animal trank gun
30:04
Speaker 2: darts and they were actually found in the home. And
30:08
Speaker 2: there's a bullet by your bed. How did that get there?
30:11
Speaker 2: The easter bunny just throws it by your bed. What
30:16
Speaker 2: the woman's bones are scattered?
30:21
Speaker 1: She was murdered.
30:24
Speaker 2: I mean, help me out, people, am I the only
30:27
Speaker 2: one seeing all these coincidences.
30:30
Speaker 11: Who was that?
30:31
Speaker 1: Is that jump in for peace? Christmas?
30:33
Speaker 3: Nancy?
30:34
Speaker 11: I mean, think about it, right, I mean, you're right
30:36
Speaker 11: on target here. I mean, what a coincidence that this
30:39
Speaker 11: guy used to own a deer farm and he used
30:42
Speaker 11: to harvest deer antlers by utilizing the same exact chemicals
30:47
Speaker 11: that are found inside of her body. And to your
30:50
Speaker 11: what you said a moment ago a month before, when
30:53
Speaker 11: he's asked by the FBI, hey, have you ever used
30:56
Speaker 11: this stuff? He says, oh, yeah, all the time. I'm
30:58
Speaker 11: very proficient in it, to the point where he tells
31:02
Speaker 11: him even a little bit deeper of how he does it.
31:05
Speaker 11: And that's why it's really interesting. Does he hit her
31:07
Speaker 11: with a dart hypothetically that night, you know, the day
31:10
Speaker 11: she disappeared, and then now that he has that part
31:14
Speaker 11: from her cancer treatments on her body, does he utilize
31:18
Speaker 11: that as a mechanism to go even further with his plot?
31:23
Speaker 11: If he's the guy, right, and so I'm with you
31:28
Speaker 11: on this one hundred percent, it is not lining up
31:31
Speaker 11: for it.
31:32
Speaker 1: I've got more.
31:33
Speaker 2: I've got more, and I welcome everybody on this panel.
31:37
Speaker 1: If you have a thought put it out there.
31:39
Speaker 2: Joe Scott Morgan is uncharacteristically quiet right now, But what
31:43
Speaker 2: about this his self? A thank you, Jackie. His cell
31:47
Speaker 2: phone pings where her helmet is found far far away. Oh,
31:51
Speaker 2: I guess the mountain lion threw it out there where
31:54
Speaker 2: he happened to be looking for. What was he looking
31:56
Speaker 2: at deer that morning on his haytill he thrown together
32:01
Speaker 2: out of townshrip? His cell phone pings right there. And
32:05
Speaker 2: let me remind everybody, he's the one, Barry morriphu who
32:10
Speaker 2: is not a suspect.
32:12
Speaker 1: He is the.
32:13
Speaker 2: One at the very beginning. He is the one that says, hey, neighbor,
32:19
Speaker 2: can you go see if her mountain bike's there? Maybe
32:23
Speaker 2: she went.
32:23
Speaker 1: For a ride.
32:24
Speaker 2: He might as well have said maybe a mountain lion
32:27
Speaker 2: dragged her off. He's the one that introduces the whole
32:31
Speaker 2: mountain bike ride theory out there, that's where it came from.
32:36
Speaker 1: I mean, Cheryl McCollum, what do I have to do?
32:38
Speaker 8: Hit you over the head, Nancy, I've got more for you.
32:40
Speaker 8: And this is the thing that has bugged me from
32:42
Speaker 8: day one. They released a video where he is walking
32:46
Speaker 8: law enforcement through the home. They say to him, Hey,
32:49
Speaker 8: we need some clothing, maybe for tracking dogs or whatever.
32:52
Speaker 7: He opens the door and lets them in. This is the.
32:55
Speaker 8: First time he is entering the home since she goes missing.
33:00
Speaker 8: He ain't looking around for nothing. He's not calling her name.
33:04
Speaker 8: He doesn't say hey, in case she got hurt on
33:06
Speaker 8: the bike, there was some horrible accident. Maybe she's upstairs.
33:10
Speaker 8: There's a drinking glass on the counter. He doesn't refer
33:14
Speaker 8: to it. He doesn't talk about it. He's not checking anything.
33:17
Speaker 8: Let me tell you something, Nancy. If you were to
33:20
Speaker 8: be missing and I go to your house and I
33:24
Speaker 8: noticed the guinea pigs have not had their cage cleaned,
33:28
Speaker 8: something happened to you before six point thirty in the morning.
33:31
Speaker 7: The next thing I'm going to look for is fat boy.
33:33
Speaker 7: Has he been out? Is he and his crate still asleep?
33:37
Speaker 8: Something happened to you, And even I can pinpoint him.
33:41
Speaker 7: So this to me was critical.
33:43
Speaker 6: If you watch him.
34:14
Speaker 7: That maybe since you get that up to the road
34:17
Speaker 7: and then take the seal on her, call the husband.
34:20
Speaker 11: Kind of bikes he had.
34:28
Speaker 3: Slightly chippy money particulus.
34:33
Speaker 11: Can you try to call the husband and see what
34:35
Speaker 11: type of fights she has?
34:36
Speaker 2: Body cam footage of the deputies actually finding Susanne Morphew's
34:41
Speaker 2: bike out in the wilderness some distance away. How far
34:46
Speaker 2: away was it, Joe Scott Morgan that her helmet was found,
34:51
Speaker 2: and it is very Morphew not to suspect the husband
34:55
Speaker 2: that started the whole line of investigation into the bike.
35:01
Speaker 2: How far away was her helmet found? Do you recall,
35:03
Speaker 2: Joe Scott, Yeah.
35:05
Speaker 9: We're looking at about a mile essentially. So how you know,
35:09
Speaker 9: when you think about working and I came at this,
35:12
Speaker 9: Nancy initially as yeah, it could be a you know,
35:16
Speaker 9: a bicycle is struck by a vehicle. I've worked a
35:19
Speaker 9: lot of those cases over over my career. But if
35:22
Speaker 9: that's the case, how does the how does the helmet
35:24
Speaker 9: wind up so far away from this bicycle? And also
35:29
Speaker 9: how's the helmet off of the body. These things are
35:31
Speaker 9: meant to protect the head and they're strapped onto the head.
35:35
Speaker 9: So there are big, big questions here. And one point further,
35:40
Speaker 9: I've seen big cat attacks from all over the world
35:44
Speaker 9: as in depth investigation seminars, I've been to this sort
35:48
Speaker 9: of thing. You know what. The one thing that really
35:50
Speaker 9: stands out to me about this is that when you
35:53
Speaker 9: have a big cat attack, you'll have drag marks. But
35:56
Speaker 9: you know what else you got, You got blood trails,
35:59
Speaker 9: because the way a cat attacks is they dig those
36:02
Speaker 9: teeth in and they rip and then they carry off,
36:05
Speaker 9: so you will have evidence of that. The fact that
36:09
Speaker 9: he says this from Jump Street has always been puzzling
36:12
Speaker 9: to me because this is a typical of what a
36:15
Speaker 9: mountain lion would do. Generally you have to go through
36:18
Speaker 9: under an outcropping or something. They always attack from the rear,
36:22
Speaker 9: and there's nothing like this. You're going to tell me
36:24
Speaker 9: that a mountain lion actually scurried up a bank and
36:27
Speaker 9: waited for a bike.
36:29
Speaker 5: There was no sign of a struggle either or even
36:32
Speaker 5: a nothing.
36:33
Speaker 9: I know that at all.
36:34
Speaker 5: Initial reports that it seemed stage at least what detectives said.
36:39
Speaker 5: So like what you were saying, there was no blood
36:42
Speaker 5: anywhere anything as far as broken limbs of trees and
36:46
Speaker 5: things like that, that wasn't the case in this.
36:50
Speaker 1: Bike.
36:50
Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting about that location. To Cheryl McCollum,
36:54
Speaker 2: you and I stood at the foot of that embankment
36:59
Speaker 2: and we're looking up just the way that picture is
37:02
Speaker 2: and try to imagine how her bike landed there. And
37:06
Speaker 2: we looked and looked and looked, no damage to the
37:10
Speaker 2: bike at all. The cell phone data in this case
37:15
Speaker 2: will become very very critical of the case ever goes
37:18
Speaker 2: to trial. Lauren Sharff, joining US former reporter and journalist
37:23
Speaker 2: at Lauren Sharf TV. Lauren very quickly in a nutshell,
37:27
Speaker 2: the cell phone data is very disturbing, explained.
37:33
Speaker 5: When he arrived at home, his cell phone pinged around
37:36
Speaker 5: the house pretty sporadically and pretty quickly. His attorneys claim
37:41
Speaker 5: that there's no way he could have gone through the
37:43
Speaker 5: walls like that, But there's also a like a garage
37:49
Speaker 5: underway where people can walk underneath.
37:51
Speaker 1: What does it tell you, Joe Scott?
37:53
Speaker 9: You know, look, these things are not as exacting as
37:57
Speaker 9: the defense would like to, you know present. And this idea,
38:02
Speaker 9: you know Lauren just mentioned with him walking through walls
38:05
Speaker 9: and this sort of thing, that's absolutely ludicrous. You've already
38:09
Speaker 9: got to sing narrow down. You know, he's moving through
38:11
Speaker 9: the house and he's doing it quickly. So if they
38:14
Speaker 9: want exactitude here, I don't know what to tell them
38:17
Speaker 9: because you're not going to get much tighter than it
38:19
Speaker 9: is right now.
38:20
Speaker 1: Tis Leeway.
38:20
Speaker 2: Susanne Morphy's a friend, what do you make of the
38:24
Speaker 2: theory as shown by the cell phone data, that she
38:27
Speaker 2: was being chased through the home with the Trent gun.
38:32
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just what I've always believed. When we
38:34
Speaker 3: went to court and saw that data, I always thought
38:37
Speaker 3: that he came home and that's what she was running
38:41
Speaker 3: from him, to get away from him.
38:42
Speaker 8: Cheryl McCollum jump in the cell phone shows he's running
38:46
Speaker 8: zigzag all over the yard in the house.
38:49
Speaker 7: He claims he was hunting chipmunks.
38:53
Speaker 8: If anybody has ever seen a little chipmunk run, First
38:57
Speaker 8: of all, they're tiny, they dart and then they had
39:01
Speaker 8: they have escape routes all the time. He's also running,
39:06
Speaker 8: he must be a hell of a shot. No way
39:09
Speaker 8: that's possible. It's not even large.
39:12
Speaker 1: I've Chrispin done what about it?
39:13
Speaker 11: Well, you know it's interesting in the autopsive report, right,
39:18
Speaker 11: and I agree with what Doc and Cheryl and everybody
39:20
Speaker 11: have sent here on this panel that you know he
39:24
Speaker 11: he's out, you know, allegedly hunting these chipmunks. But here's
39:28
Speaker 11: a problem that he has. At the dump site where
39:32
Speaker 11: Suzanne has found there are human and non human bones.
39:36
Speaker 11: I've asked myself if he has this pre incident behavior
39:41
Speaker 11: of staging, even as this is an example of that,
39:45
Speaker 11: what did he stage at the dump site and the
39:48
Speaker 11: burial site? And now we see these non human bones
39:51
Speaker 11: that are mentioned in the autopsic report. And my initial
39:55
Speaker 11: thought process was, and I could be, you know, totally
39:58
Speaker 11: wrong here, but you know, he's a hunter, and if
40:02
Speaker 11: you're going to bury a human being, and you know
40:06
Speaker 11: that animals are going to come to that gravesite at
40:08
Speaker 11: some port, some point, and I've had many sites like
40:12
Speaker 11: others where they're going to dig up that body, Well
40:16
Speaker 11: why not place a carcass over the top of that body?
40:20
Speaker 11: And now those animals have a food source and at
40:24
Speaker 11: some point they're going to lose interest in that grave site,
40:27
Speaker 11: and or if it was discovered by a human, they'll go, oh, well,
40:31
Speaker 11: that's just a carcass over there, that's not a problem.
40:34
Speaker 11: So I think that could be a very interesting piece
40:36
Speaker 11: of this puzzle as it unfolds.
40:39
Speaker 2: Lauren Sharoff joining us on investigative journalist on the case.
40:43
Speaker 2: Isn't it true that very more for you not? A
40:46
Speaker 2: suspect claimed that he had out all of his animal
40:52
Speaker 2: trank peraphernalia and then threw it away right before Suzanne
40:58
Speaker 2: went missing.
40:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, in April of twenty twenty one, when he's asked
41:02
Speaker 5: by investigators about the tranquilizer chemicals, he said he typically
41:07
Speaker 5: keeps him on his workbench in the garage and that
41:11
Speaker 5: he might have thrown them away during his trip to
41:14
Speaker 5: Broomfield the same weekend that Suzanne disappeared. And going back
41:19
Speaker 5: to Chris McDonough's point about carcasses and things like that,
41:23
Speaker 5: I've heard from a lot of people in town in
41:25
Speaker 5: Moffatt and Swatch County that that area is a dumping
41:28
Speaker 5: ground for such animals like he was describing.
41:33
Speaker 2: I also find it very curious that a thirty three
41:38
Speaker 2: year wildlife officer expert Renzo del Piccolo, who retired from
41:45
Speaker 2: Colorado Parks and Wildlife, insists that tranquilizers are not used
41:51
Speaker 2: to hunt animals. They're only used by wildlife officials. Hunting
41:57
Speaker 2: with tranquilizers is ill legal. Let's stop and remember American
42:04
Speaker 2: hero Captain Benjamin Maulton just twenty seven, died in a
42:09
Speaker 2: helicopter crash with four other marines feb seven, twenty twenty four.
42:14
Speaker 2: He obtained the Sharpshooter Award the National Defense Service Medal.
42:19
Speaker 2: He graduated second in his class from the Officer Candidate
42:23
Speaker 2: School in the Navy. He leaves behind dog Buck, sisters
42:28
Speaker 2: Fustine and Maxine, and loving parents Robin and Steve. American
42:34
Speaker 2: hero Captain Benjamin Malton. Thank you to our guests, but
42:39
Speaker 2: especially to you for being with us tonight. Nancy Gray
42:43
Speaker 2: signing off, see you tomorrow night six and nine o'clock
42:46
Speaker 2: sharp Eastern, and until then, good night for it