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The Best and Worst of Arab Culture · Obnoxiously Pleasant

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  SPEAKER_00: Today we are talking about Alina prepped this episode as usual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh today we're talking about cultural uh practices, behaviors, traditions, yeah, norms in your society, that things that we love and things that we love to hate, or things that we want to keep and things that we want to cancel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, just things that, you know, are very prevalent for us in our society that may have caused trauma or may be the best thing that we love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or hate to love.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure it's like this in every culture, not just like, you know, Middle Eastern culture, Arab culture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I and when I I shouldn't even say that, it's just like we have a lot of similarities across, you know, uh uh 11 countries across North Africa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think these, these, these traditions that we have, some of them are like amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then some of them I'm just like, why is this a thing?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is this so like it is, it is, it is pretty freaking traumatic.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what we're talking about today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would love, love, love, like in the comments, on YouTube, on Instagram, on TikTok.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you tell us the things that you love or love to hate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you ready?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm ready.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I came prepared as always.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, always.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the first uh section is gonna be about modesty and respectability.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, respectability.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that a word?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just go with it, okay, Hanan.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think one of the things that is a big No, no, hold on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is respectability a word?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll we'll look it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll look it up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a word.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, focus.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So one of the things that I love is respect for elders.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know other cultures do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think every I think there's a lot of cultures do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I do, but like I think we go the extra.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I I honestly, I don't think we're any different than a lot of the other cultures that respect their elders.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I understand, but like it's a big, it's a big thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, but it's a big thing in almost every culture that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you just like completely like shat on my my pretty much.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, because I look at like, no, honestly, no, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I look at like my Asian friends, for example.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And across almost every single group of my Asian friends, no, that respect for elders is something that really matters and is really important.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that person's like a prized person in that family, whether it's the matriarch, whether it's the patriarch of the family.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, oh my God, all of my all of my uh all of my uh Latino friends, they're it's all like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're they're I mean, even respect for dude in Latino culture, in Hispanic culture, even respect for the people that are gone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Haven't you not watched Coco?
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  SPEAKER_00: I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love Coco.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was a great movie.
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  SPEAKER_00: I cry every time I watch it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like top five for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Me saying going on, moving on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's across the board.
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  SPEAKER_01: We get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's fine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's one thing, this is not so positive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like when we still, I feel like our community still worries about what other people say.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it's a big- Again, that's everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's human nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think okay, it's everybody to a certain extent, but we go with like, come on, don't argue with me on this.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know I'm right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like, hey, I'm sure what are they gonna say?
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  SPEAKER_00: But but at the same time, I feel like that is like a lot of other cultures too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not not to our level.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have to disagree with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Khales, everything is like honky dory.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, not everything is honky dory.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, what I'm saying is I think other cultures have the same problem that we do.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I know, I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's but it's a it's a big part of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are the people gonna say?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's your aunt gonna say?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's your aunt gonna be like?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, but but I feel like okay, I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's like this with a lot of other cultures, not just Arab culture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, not just Middle Eastern culture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like everybody is like this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dude, my Iranian friends are like this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but can we let it go?
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't you think we should let it go?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think we should let it go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think people should not care, obviously, about what other people think to a certain extent.
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  SPEAKER_01: To a certain extent.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is one thing I think we need to kind of like ease up or let it go entirely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that that definitely that's definitely like a source of trauma for a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Definitely let that one go for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we're keeping the respecting the elders.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you didn't ask me if we're keeping it or letting it go.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're just talking about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, so we're letting it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I definitely think we should keep people talking about each other.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or if you're what others think of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, this is also kind of shut up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't even don't be talking to them behind my back.
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  SPEAKER_01: This one over here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this is also like similar to what I just said.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh basically focusing uh more on what's ab than more than rather what's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like Abe is a very like is a very like subjective thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think it's a good episode, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's Abe and what's not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think it I think we need to stop doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like instead of focusing on like I don't know, don't you think there's a lot of emphasis on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a lot of emphasis.
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  SPEAKER_00: But here's the thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a and I don't like when things that are Aib get conflated with things that are haram.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's and people tell you, like, oh my god, haram is like not permissible in Islam.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, but honestly, the concept of Aib spans everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: It spans whether you're in the Middle East, whether you're Muslim, whether you're Christian, whether you're Druze, whatever you're like, it's just Aib.
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  SPEAKER_00: Abe, you can't do this because it's Abe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, who decided?
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  SPEAKER_00: Who gets to decide what's Aib?
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  SPEAKER_01: But see, that comes to that another one on my list here, basically confusing what's cultural, cultural instead of religious.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just noticed that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I really like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's very nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's actual stone from Jerusalem.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, look at that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really nice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, guys, sidebar.
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  SPEAKER_00: We should you should really take a picture of this and zoom in.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is really nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I got one for me, and I'm really what about one for me?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll get you one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Damn, you're gonna put it on.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I got really cute free Palestine bracelets, I got one for me and one for her.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did she do the same thing?
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  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
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  SPEAKER_01: For the Tina.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, come on now.
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  SPEAKER_01: I got you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do I not buy you other gifts?
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  unknown: I don't want to talk about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's because you really like this one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, halas.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll hook you up.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'll hook you up.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we just completely like messed up my train of thought.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Hanaan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hanan and her ADD is also affecting me now.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're be fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna find it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were talking about things that are Abe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I'm saying it it's another thing, like confusing religious with cultural.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that needs to stop.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that happens everywhere too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, that's just not that's not just us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would love for people to not worry about what's Aib anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, because I as I always said, like, who gets to decide what's Aib?
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  SPEAKER_00: Who gets to decide why you can't do a specific thing versus why you can do this thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think some things are a like, like, okay, I mean the next one on the list is public displays of affection.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's no need for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, Lena's a prude.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a prude.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Lena is a prude.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she just get she just gets mad at love.
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  SPEAKER_00: She does doesn't love love.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that's not true.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's different levels.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, these are rumors.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not true.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who's spreading rumors about your business?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: But Luce is the cat.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna only be you and no, seriously.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you going out doing public displays of affection with your husband?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: What we have to we have to frame what we mean by public displays of affection.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking about holding hands.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm not talking about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about like full-on like make uh make out session in the street.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, that's a little like that's but here's my thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: People want to do that, live your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying have some.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I I think it's fine.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to see that with anybody, regardless if you're gay, if you're straight.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's my no, here's my thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't really care.
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  SPEAKER_00: People like everybody do what makes you happy, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I just think in a sometimes it's like not in the right place.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it's there's not so here, here I'll respect your surroundings, the environment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like if we're out, if we're out, for example, like and there's like a lot of children or something, like that's like really inappropriate, right?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I just think it's a little strange.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, and why are you doing that when there's like lots of children around?
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's a I have a lot of questions, but in general, I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think people who have to show us that stuff in public, they have serious issues.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, but I don't think people I think I think you're thinking they're doing this for us, they're not even thinking about us.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, why can't you just I mean, I don't know.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a place to go to.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's not true.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, you don't know that.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're not a place to go to.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe maybe they're dating behind their parents' back, or maybe they're cheating.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's fine.
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  SPEAKER_01: I we're gonna disagree on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's fine.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
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  SPEAKER_01: The we're gonna move on to gender roll, gender roles.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gender roles?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So who doesn't have gender roles though?
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  SPEAKER_01: Everybody, even in American society.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everybody, everybody, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: But there is this obsession with having sons over daughters.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's still in some parts.
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  SPEAKER_01: I really think so.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna say no.
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  SPEAKER_00: But no, I think I honestly no.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think some parts, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I do think that there's like, here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think there's been a huge shift.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, of course it's a change.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's gone a lot better, 100%.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with you.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta give people credit.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: I still think, I still think in some parts, it's still, this is still a big but but I also think uh to be honest with you, so here's the thing.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: I I do know, for example, right, like my not my friends, but I would say like my friends who are my age, obviously like their parents, right?
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: They they're, you know, like they'll have like five daughters, six daughters, seven daughters, but they'll keep trying to have kids just so they have like one boy.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that does cause some trauma for people because you're just like, am I never gonna be like Are you never good enough?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I also think like that's changed so much in the last like.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying, I'm not saying this is just like no, I I understand that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what you're describing, I feel like is more of a cultural habit or an expression, not really like not tradition, you not tradition.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, that's I wouldn't I wouldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, that's I think that's fair.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's fair because like the whole thing with like um the double standards, yeah, with how to how um some of our parents not all of our parents, but even but honestly, look at like Chinese culture for a long time with the one child, you know, uh uh law, girls were I know, like that everyone wanted to have a son.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they were.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everybody wanted to have a boy, and girls literally like they were, you know, haram, like the the you had girls that were like babies that were like murdered and thrown away or whatever, you know.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's I mean it's not that serious, but I mean what I'm talking about now, like you're really like now you're saying like negative Nancy, you're like Debbie Downer right now.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm just thinking about it because it's not a c it's like a practice, yeah, yeah, it's not a tradition.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Not even a practice, it's like a cultural ex habit expression.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: But see, that's that's what I'm saying.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like treating like like even if you have like sons and daughters, if you have boys and girls, it's always like you feel like the boys get treated differently.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, come on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like now that's changed.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's changed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't do that with my kids, but I also think it's because all of us are byproducts of that trauma.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, okay, like you know, uh your brother can stay out later than I always say, like habi mama or like wanna bintasita.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the ugly duckling.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: But that stuff still happens to this day, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know it's like a c like I don't should I say it's a cultural thing?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because now every time I say something, I feel like you're gonna come at me like that.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's wrong, Lena.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's cultural and not a tradition.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's more cultural, and I think it needs to end.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it's a tradition or just culture.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: I will tell you my favorite tradition that I think thankfully is not as prevalent anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and this is a tradition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not not a visiting somebody like the day after they get married, like to check and find out that you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: That brings up a lot of trauma for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just don't like I just don't, I don't, but that was a thing for the longest time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know why.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you guys, did you do it too?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I had to do that shit.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like like and it's so weird when you come questions.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, they come and you come the next day and they're like, Ma bruk, I'm like, Ma brukhan, what?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's so wrong.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, see, that is that is a tradition, but alhamdulillah, they stopped that.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: They stopped that.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Thank god.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: This is something like I'm just like, did I come at the like did I fall?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why is that that why is that the thing that's not Ayyb?
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: That is Ayyb.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what are you actually congratulating me about?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: That you know, like yeah, I'm just like it's so wrong.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: They're congratulating her because you know she did the deed.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is a horrible tradition.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, that's a perfect example of this.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but alhamdulillah, they stopped that.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, where I'm from anyway, like they don't do that shit anymore.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um this is not a tradition, but this is something that like that happens.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Arab moms doing everything for their sons.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it clearly Lena has some sort of trauma from this.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's not true.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, my mom was cool, like I never had a problem.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Her mom was awesome, yeah.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, she like there was never like any bias or any favorite.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, but this is the second thing you mentioned about Arab moms and their sons.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's a problem because you see this shit everywhere you go.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, this is not a tradition, this is like a cultural practice, I think.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's like it needs to stop.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like halas, let them do their own shit for that.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean habit mom.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like he's he's like 25 years old, like full full grown man and still doing shit for that.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Again, mama's boys are something that spans all cultures.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's not just it's just not uh I mean I took your episode and I went completely sideways.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay, it's fun as long as we're talking.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so do you I think this is like wanting to your kids to speak Arabi.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's part of that's I would say that's a tradition.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's keeping that's part of keeping your culture and your language alive.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: So that's it, that's an important.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you you do that, obviously.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I'm not the best at it, but I'm trying.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm trying I'm trying too, and I'm not the best at it.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like what I what I'm like one for one.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: The other one is 50-50.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, see that when we with the first one's always you start out like strong, right?
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then once the second one comes, you're just like, you're like so determined, and then the second one comes along, and you're like, you know what?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Just make sure that you you're, you know, living in.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: But are you okay with them just speaking English?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: I would love for them to know their language.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's so important.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, like, I don't want to traumatize them in the learning process.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, like I told you about my son, like when we went to the Blaad, when we went to Falasin a couple years ago, he was so upset.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, You're teaching me fusha arabi.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the point?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I like I can't even communicate with that.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I also think like you can learn, you can learn to speak, right?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: But like learning to read and write and stuff, that stuff is really important.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: But you don't really appreciate that until you get older, by the way.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I told him that.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then now, like, I I I don't know if I told you.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: But Sunday school, that Sunday school trauma is real, guys.
• 14:01
  unknown: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Sunday school trauma is real.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: But you went, you had you full blown like high school.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: I had full, I had full-blown school.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: I had full blown.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: That is an easy one.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Your mom, your mom's a real one for you.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she is.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I read, I write, uh, everything.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: But aren't you aren't you grateful for her that she made you do that?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful for her that she made me do that.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: But honestly, like, yeah, she is a real one.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: But because you know, Hannah knows how to spell type na'iman, and I don't.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: And this is a perfect example.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: But it's fine.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, can we pause and talk about that for a minute?
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: So Lena got so much hate because she spelled Naiman wrong.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Guys, this is somebody who does not have a formal education in the Arabic language.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: You guys, some look, some people were really sweet about it, and they're like, it's spelled this way and not this way.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Some Jerkosaurus Rex, okay, that's a good one.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Wrote a comment and was like, um, you didn't even bother yourself to use Google.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I mean, I did use Google and Google like let me down.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: For the jerkosaurus rex who's had that.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: But what what was it?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: You said it's Tenoen or what is it?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's Tenoen, yeah.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Tenoen.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just like it's the ed if, anyways, another story for a different day.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, that was right.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: She tried to do it.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, I was like, y'all are so messed up.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you just let the girl live her life?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: She's out here working a full-time job and doing this problem.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: No formal schooling of Arabic, guys.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: But this is the other thing.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, that's the other thing.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's more of like a cultural practice than like, you know, and and and there are cultural practices that are both positive and negative, but this is definitely like negative.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: You can, and this is not just in the Middle East, this is everywhere.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can tell somebody they're wrong without fully criticizing them, you know?
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so that is like a perfect example.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: So here's somebody who is really trying.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like she does not have any formal education in Arabic.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then you get this like, and I get it, keyboard warriors, whatever, right?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, why would you go when I see something negative on the internet and I don't like it?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just keep moving.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Unless it's like very rarely am I compelled to leave a comment unless it's like somebody's like rocking something or I love it or whatever.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: But you're gonna sit here and you're gonna take time to tell somebody, um, dumb by there yourself, use go.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: See, like you said, a lot of them were very nice about it.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, and I'm I'm cool with that.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I responded to them and I said, Yes, my bad, you know, whatever.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: But like some of them were so like mean and sarcastic.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, oh my god, okay, that's fine.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Jerk's horses.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and it's funny because usually if I'm doing Arabi, like I'll text you, but it was like so late.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like I stay up late.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to like bother Hana because like I wear like a shirt.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's funny.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Lena, Lena will text me like at 1 a.m.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: and I'll text you back at 6 30 in the morning.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's usually the people.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's usually the same.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that one time I'm like, I'm not gonna bother Hanan to go over my Arabic.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it's really not that big of a deal.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's not.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you gotta just let it be.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: You got the point, right?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was funny.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, just go with it.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine, Addie.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so let's see.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: These are a couple questions to wrap up the episode.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what's one tradition you'll never let go of and one you'll happily ditch?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, you know, the happily ditched, like trying to see people after, you know, they do the deed.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I think we're done with that.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's a little weird, right?
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm trying to think of what you know what I'll tell you, like traditions that I love that I will never let go of.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, ka'khil aid.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Kakhila'id are like these cookies that we make.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's very, because you guys make ma'amul, we make ka'q.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's a very traditional Egyptian thing.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: And having those cookies on aid, like that's something I'm never gonna let go of.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's been doing it all my life.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now my kids love it.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never gonna let go of kaq.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Mainly also because I'm a chunky monkey.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: And if it's food related, then I absolutely, you know, but but things like this.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah things that make me feel like like parts of my culture that I'm like never gonna let go.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like fun, fun things.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, kakaraid is very important for me.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny you guys say kak.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Is it with a ha or ha?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, so we pronounce it with that with a with a ha, but it's really cak is the proper error.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's kak, yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: But kak is the proper air, but it's we say kak.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it's uh, but yeah, kakaraid for me is like, guys, I need to I need to know how you feel about cakaraid because that stuff is just so good.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so good.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay with the powdered sugar and everything.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure there in every culture there is something similar to that.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like Mexicans have the Mexican wedding cookie.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it's very similar to to cak, by the way.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: So from all of our traditions, this is the one thing that you're interested in right now.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: And if for me, you're not.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, sorry.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's wrong with cac and aid?
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have to take a pause here.
• 18:25
  unknown: Nothing.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you mad, bro?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we have a lot of good traditions.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know what else I love?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love, love, love, love that we at weddings just give money.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's I don't want to buy you a gift, I don't want to think about it.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you want to do a registry, I'm all for it.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I love, you know, that you um, you know what else that I love are what are they called?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: She's on the roll now.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh U Lilations, the Zagrit.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I love those because those are that is like the best expression of happiness and love and excitement and joy.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And like I, and every country has their own version, and I love that.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: That is like, and and I don't, I don't feel like anybody else does it.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they do, but besides you know, Arab, but like I I freak I love Zaharit.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love Zaharit.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's a good one.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love it.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there is what's wrong with Gak, man?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just Gak is amazing.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: She just is like, she's a hater today.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, I'm not a hater.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: She's a hater.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what it's like?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: It is like gak wars before when like the last two weeks of uh the last 10 days of Ramadan.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, before it was.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing with us.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: We do ma'mul.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's like everybody's trying to get their ga'k.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't make it, I go to.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I have a friend that actually has a little tradition with her kids where she makes the gaq and the khorayeba, all the cookies, and I think it's the sweetest thing.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's the cutest thing.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just, I'm just giving you a hard time.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice, it's fine.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, the one thing that I love is Arab hospitality and generosity.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: That for me is vague.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I do my best to teach my kids to, you know, don't be cheap and like be nice, be welcome to see.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just not about being cheap, but honestly, it's like there's a lot of things.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Just be generous, like share.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a lot of things about our culture that are like not my favorite, but there's a lot of things about my culture that are my favorite.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like we are very like I look from my experience, I love the fact that we are, despite whatever is happening, like, for example, when someone dies, people show up.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care if we're at war, everything pauses, the world stops, and you show up to be there for, you know, the the family that just lost them.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I, and I, and there's a lot of things that like we we're terrible, like we hold grudges.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of things about our about about our about our people that I don't love, but that is something that I like really respect and better.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: In in times of need.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: In times of need, people would show up for you.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: So okay.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Rapid fire segment.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love rapid fire.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, cultural behaviors that we either keep or cancel.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I like this.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't have a discussion.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: You either say keep it or cancel it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, right.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Keep it cancel.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Never showing up empty-handed when visiting someone's house.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Keep.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Keep.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely keep.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, women serving uh men while they just sit around and do nothing.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking cancel.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely cancel.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Cancel.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Serve yourself.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Serve yourself.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Asking about marriage and kids at every family gathering.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Cancel.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Cancel.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Cancel.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: No more.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I hated that one.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: No sleepovers ever.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Keep.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely keep.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't let my kids sleep anyway.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Except my sister's house.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: And my parents.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: No sleepovers.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like family members, obviously.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sons getting more freedom than daughters.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Cancel.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Cancel.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody gets freedom.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's so true.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: But cancel.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm okay with that.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: No, cancel.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, let them live their lives.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Kissing the hands and foreheads of elders.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we can keep that.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: Keep that.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's cute.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Not calling adults by their first name.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: Keep it.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely keep it.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Keep it.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: What can I because it's like, you know, you say uncle, you're like Khello or Ammo or whatever, right?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Kheli, Amni.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just, I cannot imagine.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: It would be so weird.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, forcing us to eat more even after they say we've had it now.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: My God.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of like love it and hate it.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, I love it if I'm doing it to someone, but don't keep pushing food on me.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: No, you know, definitely keep keeping.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: I like I say no, but like I love that.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes I'm like, am I gonna be a fat ass if I like have one more slice of cake?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: But somebody's like, Do you want more cake?
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, thank you.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we keep we're keeping it.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're keeping that, yeah.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, big expensive weddings.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think it depends on what you want.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: And it's either keep it or cancel it.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Keep it, keep it.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know why?
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you have the money, go for it.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right, I think we're done.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's listen.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh let us know what's one thing, either a tradition or a cultural behavior or cultural practice from your from like your country.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that you love or that you hate you'd like to just completely get rid of or that you hate to love.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know in that comment.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because, like, people offering me food.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: I hate that I love that.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a good thing though.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because no, no, it is a good thing.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I that's why I said I hate that I love it.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I hate the fact that I I love I love people offering me food.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Let us know what you want to keep and what you want to do.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: This was fun.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: All right, see you guys next time.