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- 0:06is advised. Located on the Gulf of Mexico, Galveston, Texas, remained
- 0:14unsettled by Europeans for a couple hundred years after Spanish explorer Cabeza Devaca became shipwrecked
- 0:22there sometime around the year fifteen twenty eight. The area's rightful inhabitants, the
- 0:29Accoquisa and Caroncua Native American peoples, were left alone for well over one hundred
- 0:35years after Devaca's stranding, until the late sixteen hundreds, when Robert Caballer LaSalle
- 0:43claimed this area for his sovereign king King Louis, naming it Saint Louis or
- 0:50perhaps Saint Louis. But the area later known as Galveston City and Galveston County,
- 0:56remained unsettled and unoccupied by anyone else other than the Caronkoua for another one
- 1:02hundred years, when troops of Louisiana's Spanish governor Bernardo de Galvez occupied the area
- 1:10for a brief period in seventeen seventy seven. It was named Galveston in honor
- 1:15of De Galvez, but the area was once again left alone by outsiders,
- 1:22then famous pirate Jean Lafitte became the first such outsider to occupy Galveston for an
- 1:29extended period. He and about a thousand of his men set up shop there
- 1:34after being given a full pardon by United States Army General Andrew Jackson for all
- 1:40past crimes of smuggling and privateering in exchange for fighting alongside the United States in
- 1:47eighteen fifteen's bloody Battle of New Orleans, the last remnant of the War of
- 1:53eighteen twelve. Lafitte and his men, the Barratarians, indeed fought, and
- 2:00in fact are thought by some to be the reason the United States defeated the
- 2:05Brits in this month long struggle. Jean Lafitte and the Barratarians couldn't help themselves,
- 2:12however, and returned to their lawless ways as privateers and smugglers for the
- 2:17Mexican Army. After settling Galveston for years. The relationship between Lafitte, his
- 2:24men and the Caronkua people was amicable and even cooperative. The natives even helped
- 2:31repair damages to Lafitte's fort in September of eighteen eighteen, after a hurricane devastated
- 2:38much of it. They were paid back in supplies and modern conveniences, but
- 2:45this was still their territory. Lafitte and his men still guests essentially, and
- 2:52the Caronqua took it upon themselves to take what they wanted from the visitors.
- 2:58Lafitte ultimately decided he couldn't let the Kronkua get away with that, and after
- 3:04kidnapping some of their women tribespeople in retaliation, fighting between the rightful inhabitants of
- 3:10Galveston Island and the intruder privateers began. On top of that. Around that
- 3:17time, a ship captain of Lafitte's decided to raid a United States merchant ship,
- 3:24resulting in the US government coming in to remove the pirates from Galveston themselves.
- 3:31Even if the US hadn't come, the French pirate and his fight for
- 3:36profit buccaneers were likely no match for the Caronkua natives. Lafitte and the Barratarians
- 3:44boarded his ship, named the Pride, and sailed out of the Gulf city.
- 3:50But this was Jean Lafitte and he wasn't just going to abandon shop that
- 3:54easily. Before sailing away, he and his men burned down the town they'd
- 4:00created, leaving little behind but soot, smoke, and the stone remnants of
- 4:06some of the structures. But that's hardly the last time Galveston would be virtually
- 4:13destroyed. An actual city began to emerge on Galveston Island the year Texas gained
- 4:20its independence from Mexico. In eighteen thirty six, Michel B. Menard purchased
- 4:28seven square miles in the area, and, against all odds tropical storms,
- 4:32hurricanes, and pandemics, Galveston was imagined as some sort of West New Orleans
- 4:40and quickly became the most sophisticated and economically robust city in Texas. The population
- 4:48boomed from this point on until it hit near forty thousand residents at the beginning
- 4:54of the twentieth century. Mother Nature had other ideas for Galveson, however,
- 5:00perhaps room for only one big easy. On September eighth, nineteen hundred,
- 5:06came the Great Storm. This deadly hurricane killed around eight thousand women, men,
- 5:14and children, around twenty percent of the city's population. Folks drowned were
- 5:20crushed or pierced by objects made into projectiles by the extreme winds. Traditional burials
- 5:30for such a large number of the dead were out. When attempts to bury
- 5:34them at sea failed, the tides brought the bodies back ashore for two months
- 5:41funeral pyres burning the victims of the Great Storm burned. The thick smoke was
- 5:47inescapable and choked the survivors, even some, it is said on boats sailing
- 5:54in the Gulf. Although the city remained prosperous because of the idea of Galveston
- 6:01as a center for high society, culture and sophistication was over. Instead,
- 6:09seedy saloons, gambling dens, and brothels or body houses took over. No
- 6:15doubt, Galveston's reputation as a sort of city of sin grew fast, since
- 6:21folks came from hundreds of miles away for a taste of sweet debauchery and lawlessness.
- 6:29Prohibition only exacerbated it, and by the early nineteen twenties organized crime had
- 6:34a bigger presence in the city than it did one hundred years before, when
- 6:39it was a camp for nothing but pirates. Though Galveston as a kind of
- 6:45Las Vegas of Texas lasted well beyond prohibition, it all came to an end
- 6:50when, on June tenth, nineteen fifty seven, Texas Rangers came in and
- 6:56virtually raided the entire town to destroyed Galveston as it was then known, just
- 7:03not physically. Injunctions were given to more than fifty major establishments, and the
- 7:11famed and infamous Balinese Room became the example to any other such illegal gambling,
- 7:17liquor sales, or prostitution operations across the state, catching the front page headlines
- 7:25of just about every Texas newspaper sporadically for the next few months. After that,
- 7:32Galveston finally began the transformation into what it is today, a beach town,
- 7:38a family destination spot. Tourism instead of organized crime, drives the city's
- 7:45economy. However, little can be done about the sometimes cruel reign of Mother
- 7:51Nature, and Galveston is often at least partially devastated by hurricanes. There were
- 7:59plenty between nineteen hundreds of the Great Storm and two thousand and eight's Hurricane Ike.
- 8:05Beyond the expected aftermath of Ike, it too left immeasurable destruction to something
- 8:11completely unforeseen. Documents, files, and physical evidence housed in the storage room
- 8:20of the Galveston Police Department. There's no definitive list of the unsolved and cold
- 8:26cases, or even an attempt at such that can be found publicly, of
- 8:31course, but it is known that crucial evidence, once awaiting the technological advances
- 8:37in DNA science we are seeing realized today, has been both lost and destroyed
- 8:43at the destructive hands of Hurricane Ike. For many years, this was thought
- 8:48to include evidence in the Halloween nineteen eighty nine murder of thirty year old Sylvia
- 8:54Salinas. You know, I just always wonder, you know, how she'd
- 9:20be, where she'd be at you know. I remember asking her when I
- 9:28was a little girl, because she was so fun loving and played around and
- 9:33joked around all the time. I asked her what she was going to do
- 9:39when she got old, because I couldn't picture her being old, like you
- 9:43know per se my grandma and grandpa. I just could not picture it because
- 9:48she was so fun and fun loving and you know, always playing around and
- 9:54stuff. I just could not picture her old. And I asked her,
- 9:58I said, what do you and two when you get old? Aunt Sylvia?
- 10:01And I remember she bent down to my level and she got white in
- 10:05my face and smiled real big, and she said, I'm never gonna get
- 10:11old. She didn't, she will Forever, be Young, Forever. Born
- 10:22to parents dear Lise and Maria Elena and Galveston on January seventh, nineteen fifty
- 10:28nine, Sylvia Seleinas lived in the area her whole life, alongside her sister
- 10:33Nara, and brothers Reuben and dear LESE. Junior. Selena's food store was
- 10:39located at thirty first Street and Avenue Q, just a few blocks north of
- 10:46the Sea Wall. Her brother dear LESE. Junior, had owned the store
- 10:50for eighteen years, beginning when he was a very young man. He gave
- 10:56it to his folks to operate so he can move to Hawaii and manage at
- 11:00Johannolulu Grocery Store. In nineteen eighty eight, Sylvia officially purchased it from him.
- 11:07My name is Serika and I am Sylvia Selina's niece. She's my dad's
- 11:13sister, and my name is Christine. Aunt Sylvia would have been my great
- 11:20aunt, my mom's aunt. I was what probably six months old when she
- 11:26passed away, so I never really got a chance to know who she was
- 11:31other than three stories. Okay, Well, I grew up in the store.
- 11:37My sister and I basically grew up there. You know. We were
- 11:41kids. We'd hang out in the store with you know, Grandma, with
- 11:48Aunt Sylvia. There was a lot of times I'd go hang with my Aunt
- 11:52Sylvia by myself because we only lived a couple of blocks from where the store
- 11:56was located. You know, we were all always up at the store.
- 12:01My dad had it for a while before my aunt bought it, so I
- 12:07kind of grew up there. As far as I can remember, that store
- 12:11was, you know in our family. Yeah. I spent a lot of
- 12:16time in that store, my sister and I, so like we knew it
- 12:20like the back of our hands. My sister and I would go up to
- 12:24the store. We'd walk to the store from Grandma's house, which was a
- 12:26couple of blocks away, and Aunt Sylvia would be up there working and I'd
- 12:31go in and get a bag of chips or whatever, and She's like,
- 12:35hey, why are you always up here taking my chips? He would say,
- 12:39you need to bring some money next time. You tell Grandma to give
- 12:43you money because you don't get them for free. But she'd always give them
- 12:46to me anyway. That was just how she was. She was so fun
- 12:50and loving. She was a life of the party, so everyone loved her.
- 12:56She was awesome. The store was a midtown Salveston's staple, and so
- 13:01was Sylvia. Close friends called Silvia Sill or Anti Sill or Tsil, perhaps
- 13:09because her genuine kindness mixed with her razor sharp wit made her seem like your
- 13:16cool aunt. Selena's food store was small but packed full of just about anything
- 13:22you can imagine, from fresh fish at the meat counter to candy and other
- 13:28snacks, and from cigarettes and cigarillos to various sizes of batteries, greeting cards,
- 13:35and what have been called the cheapest but coolest sunglasses on Galveston Island.
- 13:41Too. If Sylvia didn't sell it, you didn't need it. Even before
- 13:48Sylvia Salinas owned the place, customers were familiar with her since she long worked
- 13:54the counter there. Whether you were in and out of Selina's Food Store or
- 13:58stop to chat for a while, Sylvia made it crystal clear you were welcome
- 14:03there. She was cool to teenagers or perhaps simply tolerated them, helpful to
- 14:11her elderly customers, and sweet to children who would stop by. If a
- 14:16kid wanted some gum or candy but was short a few cents, Auntie Sill
- 14:20wouldn't let it slide. But if you came into Selina's food store acting a
- 14:26fool or being rowdy, Sylvia had no problem putting you right back in your
- 14:31place. Sylvia was hospitable and friendly, but she didn't take a lot of
- 14:35shit. I remember one instance as a child, I was hanging out with
- 14:41her up there, and there was a man that had come in and I
- 14:46saw him get a bottle of wine and put it down the front of his
- 14:50pants, and I told my Aunt Sylvia. I said, Aunt Sylvia,
- 14:54that guy just took a wine bottle down his pants. And she was like,
- 14:58okay, okay. She said, will you stay here? And he
- 15:01was walking out the door. She said stay right here, and of course
- 15:07I didn't listen, and I walked outside because I wanted to see what was
- 15:09going on. She followed him out, and she had him up against the
- 15:16side of the store, and she like decked him a couple times in the
- 15:20face. She stuck her hand down in his pants, pulled her wine bottle
- 15:24out, and told them, don't you ever come back to my store again.
- 15:30But my aunt everybody knew her, and everybody knew not to mess with
- 15:33her. Still, she trusted people, perhaps too much, and believed that
- 15:41everyone was basically good, especially her beloved clientele like old timey mom and pop
- 15:48grocer's. Sylvia advanced credit to her customers when they needed it, allowing them
- 15:54to get her back when their paychecks came in. You know, if they
- 15:56didn't have the money for something, maybe they didn't have money for their kids
- 16:02diapers or whatever, she would let them go ahead and take them and then
- 16:06pay her back when they got their paycheck. She'd give advice or just listen
- 16:11to whatever someone needed to get off their chest. Folks loved Sylvia for all
- 16:18these reasons, but it was her wit and rapid fire jokes that kept a
- 16:22lot of customers coming back. Sylvia Selenas was focused and driven to succeed,
- 16:30a natural business person who helped Selena's Food Store realize its potential as an important
- 16:36part of the neighborhood. According to a uniform crime report released in nineteen ninety,
- 16:42the city of Galveston in nineteen eighty nine saw a few interesting shifts in
- 16:48crime statistics. Auto theft had increased dramatically, and theft of property other than
- 16:56auto saw about an eight percent increase. Burglaries were significantly down, but robberies
- 17:03and assaults both up. The murder rate in nineteen eighty nine was more or
- 17:08less the same as the year before. Like nineteen eighty eight, there were
- 17:14thirteen murders in nineteen eighty nine, and with approximately sixty thousand residents on Galveston
- 17:19Island that year, the murder rate stood at around twenty two murders per one
- 17:25hundred thousand citizens. That put Galveston way out of the top ten US cities
- 17:30with the highest murder rate, or even on par with Dallas's thirty six murder
- 17:36victims per one hundred thousand residents. But the Gulf City was up there as
- 17:41far as the state of Texas is concerned, with a higher rate than cities
- 17:45like Austin and San Antonio, and around the same rate as cities like Fort
- 17:51Worth. In other words, just like many cities in Texas in the nineteen
- 17:56eighties and nineteen nineties, Galveston wasn't exist was actually a safe place to live.
- 18:02There was a different time back then, and like, there's no way
- 18:04I would have let my kids when they were a little walk to the store
- 18:08by themselves. That's how it was back then. And you know, I
- 18:12would go and I'd have my three year old sister's hand and we'd walk up
- 18:18to the store and go get candy or whatever. And so I don't remember
- 18:22the neighborhood being like with a lot of crime or anything like that. I
- 18:27do know my grandma was robbed a couple of times. One time I was
- 18:33there, one time I was not there, but my sister was there.
- 18:38But nobody ever robbed Aunt Sylvia. They knew better, everyone knew not the
- 18:44mess with her, you know, So they they'd hit my grandmother because Grandma
- 18:49was just an easier target than Aunt Sylvia. On the morning of Tuesday,
- 18:56October thirty first, nineteen eighty nine, how Sylvia Salinas's parents, Maria Elena
- 19:03and dear Lese Senior, hung around Selena's food store visiting with their daughter.
- 19:11It was a day like any other day, nothing unusual about it. It
- 19:15was Halloween, but being a week day, the kids were all in school
- 19:21and most parents at work. Galveston residential neighborhoods were relatively quiet. It was
- 19:27too early for tricks and treats. At some time around noon, deaar Lese
- 19:33Senior and Maria Elena left the store to eat lunch at home. Which was
- 19:38about two blocks away. Sylvia spent her lunch break restocking the shelves, likely
- 19:45dreaming of the life she might soon have with her brother, dear LESE.
- 19:49Junior. Sylvia planned not to continue the lease on the food store when it
- 19:55came up for renewal in nineteen ninety, and instead planned to move to Hawaii
- 20:00to be near her brother, not to mention the tropical beauty of the Islands.
- 20:07At one twenty three pm that day, the private security firm that handled
- 20:12the small grocery and convenience store received and alert the silent alarm had been triggered.
- 20:19The Galveston Police were notified and Patrolman John Lopez was sent to the scene
- 20:26in response. At one twenty seven pm, Officer Lopez arrived at Selena's food
- 20:33store. It was almost immediately apparent to the policeman that something terrible had occurred.
- 20:41The store was quiet and no greeting was offered Lopez as he passed through
- 20:45the front door. As he approached the counter, he saw blood, a
- 20:51lot of blood, and then the still body of the store's owner, thirty
- 20:56year old Sylvia Salinas. It was clear she was dead. Officer Lopez quickly
- 21:04called for backup. In no time, yellow crime scene tape sealed off the
- 21:10scene, keeping potential customers from entering. As the police processed the store for
- 21:15evidence, Galveston County District Attorney Mike Guarino sent out assistant DA Brent rich Book
- 21:23to surveil. Galveston Police Identification Bureau Sergeant James Kitchen preserved the crime scene on
- 21:32video, carefully documenting the four bloody shoe or boot prints found in the store,
- 21:38also the open cash register, bloodied and emptied of everything besides some coins
- 21:44and food stamps, the body of Sylvia Salinas lying behind the counter in a
- 21:49pool of blood, an overturned stool beside her, and the murder weapon found
- 21:56near the victim. The knife used to kill Sylvia had also been used to
- 22:02pry open the cash register. It's often described by reporters and police as a
- 22:07butcher knife, though in the video footage of the crime scene, the bloodied
- 22:12knife is clearly a filet knife or boning knife. As police processed the scene,
- 22:21they began to theorize what happened. Someone entered the small grocery store at
- 22:26approximately one twenty pm. As Sylvia sat behind the counter, relaxed on her
- 22:33stool, this person thrust a knife into her chest, just above her left
- 22:37breast, piercing both her heart and long and causing her to fall backward.
- 22:45After pulling the knife from her chest, the cops ascertained Sylvia's killer pried open
- 22:51the cash register using the murder weapon, setting off the silent alarm in the
- 22:56process. Sylvia, they said, never got the chance to sound the alarm
- 23:00herself. A machete and loaded revolver sitting on a shelf just under the cash
- 23:07register completely undisturbed, and the fact that no defensive wounds were found on Sylvia's
- 23:14hands or arms suggested that the store owner hadn't had time to react at all.
- 23:21Police were unable to determine how much money had been taken from the cash
- 23:26registered drawer, likely thirty year old Sylvia Salinas was killed for far less than
- 23:32a thousand bucks. As Galveston PID documented with video and scoured the crime scene
- 23:51for clues, a crowd of bystanders gathered outside. They watched in disbelief as
- 23:57a gurney carrying a covered by was wheeled out and loaded onto an ambulance.
- 24:03Multiple folks said both aloud and as whispers is that Sylvia is that Tasil.
- 24:11Many didn't find out that it was until it was confirmed on the evening news.
- 24:18One of the images that I will never get out of my head is
- 24:22my grandmother standing in front of the store hugging one of her friends, and
- 24:29she is crying and her mouth is wide open, crying, And it was
- 24:34put in the paper, and that image of my grandmother has stuck with me.
- 24:41And also my grandfather standing outside of the store looking down and just with
- 24:47the saddest look on its face. You know, I can't even imagine as
- 24:52a parent what they went through losing their daughters. Sylvia was their youngest child.
- 24:59She was baby and we all loved her so much. The slang of
- 25:07Sylvia Salinas happened in the middle of the day, in broad daylight, yet
- 25:12no one in the neighborhood reported seeing anything suspicious. However, some folks who
- 25:19lived nearby did see something, and the Galveston Police were soon pleading for other
- 25:26people to come forward. Sometime around when the silent alarm was triggered, witnesses
- 25:32saw a white male with sandy blonde or brown hair running through the alley next
- 25:37to Selena's Food store. The cops assured the public that the man wasn't necessarily
- 25:44a person of interest and that they were just seeking him in an attempt to
- 25:48gather more information. Thought to be about ten minutes before the silent alarm was
- 25:55triggered to a black male wearing dark clothing was seen using the payphone outside the
- 26:00store. It was a stretch, but perhaps, police said this unidentified man
- 26:07saw Sylvia's killer enter the small grocery store. Whatever these potential witnesses saw,
- 26:15or in the case of the running white guy, what he might have done,
- 26:19the police had absolutely no idea the direction they should steer the investigation.
- 26:26We don't know if it was somebody next door or somebody from out of town.
- 26:30Galveston Police Chief Bob Pierce commented, adding, anybody with information concerning possible
- 26:37suspects or vehicles, please notify police. We need all the help we can
- 26:41get with this one. The investigation was cold just as soon as it began,
- 26:48and the day following the senseless murder of Sylvia Salinas, an arrangement of
- 26:53blue carnations hung on Slena's food stores entry, partially covering a closed sign hanging
- 27:00inside the double glass door at six PM on Thursday, November two, nineteen
- 27:07eighty nine, at Galveston's Broadway Funeral Home. Sylvia Salinas's parents and siblings spoke
- 27:15of her love of life and compassion for others. We pray for her soul.
- 27:22Her brother, de Lise Salinas Junior said, my parents ask forgiveness for
- 27:26the person responsible. They pray for his soul. Her funeral was like standing
- 27:33room only there were so many people there. She impacted a lot of people.
- 27:38The next day, a mass was held at Sylvia's lifelong place of worship,
- 27:44Mission Rena de la Pace Catholic Church. Four hundred mourners attended, and
- 27:51services were held in both Spanish and English. When the mass moved to the
- 27:56cemetery, standing over his sister's ground, der Leise Junior said he, like
- 28:02his parents, prayed for the soul of his sister's killer, but dear Lese
- 28:07added he also asked for the capital punishment of the murderer, that he be
- 28:14executed. Der Leise Junior felt a sense of guilt forever selling his sister Selena's
- 28:21food store. If he hadn't, he said, she wouldn't have been there
- 28:25alone to be murdered in cold blood friends too, spoke at the Catholic ritual
- 28:32to honor Sylvia, including Cynthia Marsh, who said she couldn't think of a
- 28:37soul who would want to harm her dearest and closest friend. It just didn't
- 28:42make any sense. Sylvia Sealinas was buried at Lakeview Cemetery, and the mass
- 28:48in her honor continued for years to come on the anniversary of her senseless murder.
- 28:56Meanwhile, Galveston homicide detectives attempted to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
- 29:03They had lifted prints from all over the Salina's food store, and along
- 29:07with forensic identification experts, were busy sorting through them, checking the prince against
- 29:15their own files and comparing them against others, including family friends of the slain
- 29:19woman and regular customers. The faster they could eliminate some fingerprints at the scene
- 29:26as one of those. The faster they might identify persons of interest, but
- 29:33it was an incredibly time consuming process. There were a ton of prints to
- 29:37go over. The department received a substantial number of phone calls about the murder
- 29:44of Sylvia Selenas in the first few days of their investigation, but Galveston police
- 29:48Sergeant George Powell said none offered any real value. None of these tips at
- 29:55all panned out. Neither the man seen running near the small grocery about the
- 30:00time the alarm was triggered, nor the man seen using the payphone outside the
- 30:06store about ten minutes before that came forward, Sergeant Powell said days after the
- 30:12terrible crime. Other than that, the policeman wouldn't elaborate or discuss the investigation
- 30:19with the press. No member of Sylvia's family recognized the knife used to kill
- 30:26her. We don't ever remember that knife being in the store, so this
- 30:32person came with the intent of using it. Though Selena's food store had a
- 30:38meat and fish counter, they didn't do their own butchering in house, so
- 30:44it seemed unlikely the knife came from within, but still detectives could not be
- 30:49sure. Smuggling the approximately ten inch long knife into the store inconspicuously isn't impossible,
- 30:59of course, but still it seemed like a difficult task. The murder
- 31:03weapon resembled a filet or boning knife, and a large one that is likely
- 31:08uncommon in the typical home, perhaps suggesting that the person who killed Sylvia worked
- 31:15for area fish and seafood markets, or at least had in the past.
- 31:22It's unknown if that particular avenue of investigation was ever followed. It's constantly said
- 31:30in reports that the Galveston police theorize that Sylvia knew and trusted the person who
- 31:36attacked her, and the media tagged right along on that notion, never offering
- 31:41up the possibility that the murderer simply took the beloved store owner by surprise,
- 31:45leaving her no time to react to the attack before the weapon was thrust into
- 31:51her heart. While both scenarios seem identically plausible to me, the theory that
- 31:56Sylvia indeed knew her attacker perhaps is easier to reason with. Galveston police detectives
- 32:05point out that Sylvia Salinus never reached for her loaded revolver or machete, both
- 32:10of which sat on a shelf underneath the cash register. She hadn't sounded the
- 32:15store's silent alarm. Now these facts work for both theories, of course,
- 32:22but police feel they work better alongside the notion Sylvia was familiar and comfortable with
- 32:29the person who killed her. She likely even invited the person behind the counter,
- 32:35police believe before they struck the victim's brother, de Lise Selinus Junior,
- 32:42certainly agreed that his sister would never have let anyone behind the counter unless she
- 32:46knew them well and fully trusted them. Cynthia Marsh also believes that whoever killed
- 32:54her closest friend was someone she knew. In Perhaps what is the best argument
- 33:01for the theory, Cynthia describes Sylvia as an astute and alert individual. Selena's
- 33:08food store was her business, something she took incredibly seriously, and Cynthia said,
- 33:15if there was ever potential danger, her friend was always aware, with
- 33:21a seemingly natural ability at assessing and handling potential threats before they occurred. Considering
- 33:29the reasoning of the Galveston Police, the slain woman's brother, dear Lise Selinus
- 33:34Junior, and her dearest friend Cynthia Marsh, it's difficult not to lean toward
- 33:38the theory that Sylvia Salinus knew the person who took her life. However,
- 33:45it's just as difficult to totally discount the theory that she did not know her
- 33:50killer at all, or that her acquaintance with them was a passing one and
- 33:55they simply took her completely by surprise, a reaction an impossibility. Speaking with
- 34:14Sylvia's niece Sherika and great niece Christine, the entire family's opinion about Sylvia knowing
- 34:21her killer was perfectly clear. It doesn't make sense because she was tough from
- 34:29what I've heard, and for her not to fight back and just allow that
- 34:37to happen, I don't know it just right since right it doesn't he'll never
- 34:42let anyone back behind the counter, and that's a big thing. She never
- 34:47let anyone back there, you know. So for somebody to get back behind
- 34:52the counter with her, it was someone she really really trusted and was close
- 34:58to. I remember being up there when her friends would come up to visit
- 35:02or whatever, and they would stay on the other side of the counter.
- 35:06She didn't invite them back behind the counter. They just sit there and shit
- 35:09chat with her on the other side of the counter, you know. So
- 35:14I just it was someone really close to her. It had to be,
- 35:19and the counter had stopped sitting on it, so it couldn't even been that
- 35:23someone jumped over the counter because they would have knocked things over getting across it.
- 35:30So they literally had to walk around and there was a little swinging door
- 35:36that came up to about your waist area or upper legs. It would swing
- 35:40back and forth, and they had to come in that way. There was
- 35:45no other way enter out unless you wanted to jump across the counter. But
- 35:49there was much meaning though that she would. They had time to walk around
- 35:54the counter and to the back before being able to reach her, which have
- 36:00given her ample time. Oh yes, grab one of the two weapons that
- 36:05were sitting within arms reached, she wouldn't have even had to get up.
- 36:08Remember Sylvia kept a loaded gun and a machete behind the counter, so if
- 36:15somebody was going to go back there, she would have had time. Somebody
- 36:21that was not supposed to be back there, at least she would have had
- 36:23time to reach for one of those weapons to at least defend herself. Oh
- 36:30yeah, and she did not. She would have been on guard. If
- 36:35it was someone that you know, she wasn't familiar with, or if they
- 36:39gave her a bad vibe. That had to be someone she knew and trusted
- 36:46very well, because I can tell you right now I know her and I
- 36:52know Aunt Sylvia wouldn't let that happen like it was someone she trusted. They
- 36:58wanted to make it look like a robbery. I would almost set my life
- 37:01on that. It was something personal. It had nothing to do with Robin
- 37:06the store. They knew what they were going to do. They took that
- 37:09knife in there, and they knew what they were going to do when they
- 37:12walked through that door. Cynthia Marsh again makes one of the best points,
- 37:17perhaps as she completed her thoughts on what she thinks happened, she said,
- 37:22when the murder of her friend occurred, it was a busy time, lunchtime.
- 37:29Though it was an early weekday, there were still plenty of folks coming
- 37:32in and out of the store around that time, and undoubtedly plenty of folks
- 37:37hustling and bustling around the neighborhood. There were always people outside the direct vicinity
- 37:44of Selena's food store anyway, some walking, others sitting around on their front
- 37:50porches. Looking out in any direction. From any side of the grocery,
- 37:55you'll see a residence. It's hard to believe that no one saw anything.
- 38:01Yeah, it was broad daylight, so I would think that somebody had to
- 38:07have seen something, you know. I really I almost want to say that
- 38:13I don't feel like it was a male because I know how on guard she
- 38:17was around them. But I just I don't know. I just don't know.
- 38:23Somebody knows something. That's what I'm hoping for. I'm hoping that someone
- 38:30will come forward. Maybe they were scared back then, you know, and
- 38:36maybe they'll come forward now and let us know something, you know. Just
- 38:43I feel like it was someone she knew very very well, and I've always
- 38:47felt that way for many years now. To our knowledge, the two men
- 38:52police sought as witnesses, the man seen running and the man on the payphone,
- 38:58both outside of seas food store, have never come forward. In the
- 39:04initial investigation, about twenty men considered potential persons of interest were interviewed but later
- 39:12eliminated by detectives. Although crime stoppers of Galveston all but immediately offered up a
- 39:19one thousand dollars reward for information leading to the arrest of Sylvia's killer, friends
- 39:24and family of the slain woman began collecting donations to grow that reward fund.
- 39:31They pleaded with the community those who lost a part of themselves when Sylvia died,
- 39:37to contribute so that justice could be done. By November twelfth, nineteen
- 39:43eighty nine, twelve days after Sylvia was killed, they had collected two thousand
- 39:49additional dollars. Still, no one came forward with the information the Galveston Police
- 39:55needed to develop a strong lead, let alone make an a The murder of
- 40:01Sylvia Salinas has been sitting cold for decades, and that's the sad thing about
- 40:08it is that there is not a lot of information that was given. And
- 40:14I think that plays a big role in why it hasn't been solved, because
- 40:22there wasn't much given to the community about what happened. Whether that be because
- 40:30they didn't have that information or because they held on to it or whatever it
- 40:36may be, I don't know, but I just feel like there's got to
- 40:40be more to it than what we're seeing. I know. I wish that
- 40:45we had like celtones back then where we could look to see who she talked
- 40:51to, or you know, who she was communicating with that morning, you
- 40:55know, or where she had been or whatever. But we just don't.
- 41:00And I wish there was some kind of video or something, you know,
- 41:05surveillance video, but there wasn't. The family has also spent countless hours working
- 41:10with what little evidence has been made public, primarily the police crime scene video,
- 41:16in an attempt to answer their own questions. Another thing that we saw
- 41:22in the video was the bloody footprints. And so with this footprint, my
- 41:29sister and I have kind of narrowed it down to it being a converse shoe.
- 41:36You can see where it gets real thin on the side, so it
- 41:39had to be. We can't figure out exactly what shoe it was. That
- 41:45it was some type of converse, we think, but that's what it looks
- 41:50like to us because we have like searched the web for shoes back in you
- 41:54know, eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, you know, and
- 42:00kind of looked at the different patterns on the bottom of them that there was
- 42:04one that was really really close but not quite and it was a converse.
- 42:22In the early morning hours of Saturday, September thirteenth, two thousand and eight,
- 42:27at a little after two am, Hurricane Ike made landfall over Galveston,
- 42:31Texas. The storm ravaged the island city long, crippling both habitation and the
- 42:39economy. But what is most tragic and often overshadowed by the shocking structural damage,
- 42:47is the lives I took. Though it's easier to find and agreed upon
- 42:52some monetarily speaking, than a consensus on the cost to human life, both
- 43:00directly and indirectly. Dozens of folks died in Galveston County alone as the result
- 43:06of Hurricane Ike. The storm also damaged or destroyed the evidence in an unclear
- 43:13amount of cold and unsolved cases too. When we first aired Sylvia's case in
- 43:20twenty twenty, police in Galveston believed the evidence in her case was among the
- 43:25destroyed. However, it appears it was simply misplaced. We were working with
- 43:32my sister and I had talked to a detective at the Galveston County or Galveston
- 43:39Police Department. Sorry, they thought that they lost all the evidence during Ike,
- 43:46but they didn't. They still have the evidence. You know. I
- 43:52don't know if something may come of that, but I've just got my fingers
- 43:57crossed that one day will have answers, you know, I'm hoping and I
- 44:04hope that that's the case too. Is that they that they do test and
- 44:10you know that they don't put it on the back burner because it is such
- 44:14an old case. Because although it's an old case, it's still fresh to
- 44:19us, you know, like we still want answers, just like anyone else
- 44:24out there who has been through something recently. You know. I just hope
- 44:30that they don't, you know, put it aside because it's so old,
- 44:36because there are people out there exactly, Yes, I don't want them to
- 44:40forget about her, because there are people who still out here that think about
- 44:45her and want answers. Doesn't matter how old the case gets, we still
- 44:52we still want to know. You figure, if they were in their twenties
- 44:55back then, or uh, you know, yeah about if I've ventured to
- 45:01say, if they were in their twenties or early thirties, they'd be you
- 45:07know, nearly sixty pears old now. Yeah, so they could still be
- 45:12alive and just been living free all these years, knowing what they did,
- 45:17you know, And if that's the case, I just don't understand how someone
- 45:22can live with themselves for so long without feeling guilt or remorse, especially,
- 45:30you know, surely if that person is still alive, and while surely they
- 45:37see what we put out there, they see these documentaries about Aunt Sylvia,
- 45:44and they see everything that her family has gone through and what we feel right,
- 45:52and you know, they've got to feel something right. In twenty sixteen,
- 45:58the city of Galveston still rebuilding and recovering from Ike's merciless destruction. Eight
- 46:04years later, announced that the city would soon build a stronger and higher evidence
- 46:09storage facility to protect against flooding. Sylvia's father, Delise Salinas Senior, died
- 46:19in April of twenty ten, and her mother, Maria Elena Salinas in April
- 46:24of twenty twenty one. That day that she was killed, when my grandparents
- 46:30went up to the store. The alarm company had called them and told them
- 46:35that the silent alarm had went off at the store, So they had went
- 46:39up there and my grandfather, I guess when they told them, you know
- 46:44what had happened. My grandfather begged them to let him go in and see
- 46:52his daughter because he didn't believe them, and they told him no, but
- 46:57he was insistent that he wanted to her. He had to make sure that
- 47:00it was her, and so they let him in. And just to know
- 47:07that that was the last image that he had of her is just so sad.
- 47:14My grandma, like wore black for over a year every single day,
- 47:21and she hated black. She hated black. Sylvia's senseless murder, of course,
- 47:29had a huge impact on her family, the ripple effects of which are
- 47:32still being felt generations later. I think that's what bothers me the most is
- 47:39that the people that I did grow up with and that I love, I
- 47:44had to watch them for years suffer because of this. And then I,
- 47:50you know, I hear all these great stories about her, and like I
- 47:53was robbed of getting to know her and getting to have these experiences myself her.
- 48:00You know, oh, you would have loved her. She would have
- 48:04loved you. I know, you tell me all the time. I tay
- 48:09from me not too long ago, and it felt so real. I dreamed
- 48:20that we were at the store and I walked in and she was there,
- 48:25and I was like, wow, I can't believe you're here. And I
- 48:30kept saying aunt Sylvia, this, Aunt Sylvia that, and she looked at
- 48:34me and she said, quit calling me Aunt Sylvia. You're older than I
- 48:37am. Now. It felt really real to me. You know, I
- 48:43miss her a lot. We all do. If you have any information about
- 48:51the murder of Sylvia Salinas, please contact Crime Stoppers of Galveston at four zero
- 48:57nine seven sixty three eight four seven seven. Remember, you can remain anonymous.
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