Latest / DISGRACELAND / Bonus Episode - Scary Movies and an Interview with Low Cut Connie's Adam Weiner
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,
- 0:05Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
- 0:08Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
- 0:12Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
- 0:30Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
- 0:33Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
- 0:35Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
- 0:37Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
- 0:40Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking
- 0:43Speaker 1: about this week's subject of the Disgraceland full episode, the
- 0:46Speaker 1: Poltergeist Curse, the movies that scared you as a kid.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Again even more shocking Shancomb's allegations of what I plan
- 0:53Speaker 1: to do with all this ditty information. Also have a
- 0:56Speaker 1: special interview with Adam Wiener from one of the greatest
- 0:59Speaker 1: rock and roll bands on the planet at the moment,
- 1:01Speaker 1: Low Cut Connie, talking about his new movie Art Dealers,
- 1:05Speaker 1: And of course we're diving into your voicemails, tax and
- 1:08Speaker 1: more and as always a whole lot of rosie. Alright, Discos,
- 1:12Speaker 1: let's get into it. There was a study that came
- 1:29Speaker 1: out in twenty twenty one from behavioral scientists Colton Scribner
- 1:34Speaker 1: who found that horror film fans fared better psychologically than
- 1:38Speaker 1: non horror film fans during the COVID nineteen lockdown. The
- 1:42Speaker 1: reason wasn't because they had better and scarier entertainment options
- 1:47Speaker 1: at home during the pandemic, but rather because horror movies
- 1:51Speaker 1: force us to play with fear. They forced us to
- 1:54Speaker 1: play with other negative emotions as well, dread, anxiety, disgust,
- 1:58Speaker 1: and the theory goes that when we play with our fears,
- 2:01Speaker 1: we learn to better manage our fears. So those of
- 2:04Speaker 1: us who could better manage our fears because of horror
- 2:08Speaker 1: did better in twenty twenty managing our emotions during lockdown.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I looked into a couple of these studies when prepping
- 2:14Speaker 1: for this episode, and I'm shocked at how many there are,
- 2:19Speaker 1: these super serious academic looks at the psychology behind horror
- 2:23Speaker 1: film watchers. I didn't know this existed. It's a whole
- 2:26Speaker 1: piece of academia. Most of these studies, though they don't
- 2:29Speaker 1: have a lot of value. I found the COVID nineteen
- 2:31Speaker 1: thing to be a little bit interesting, but I don't
- 2:33Speaker 1: need a study to tell me why we're afraid when
- 2:36Speaker 1: we watch these films and you don't either. I'm more
- 2:39Speaker 1: interested in knowing why we are drawn to these films
- 2:42Speaker 1: as opposed to why we are afraid. Fear isn't a
- 2:45Speaker 1: positive emotion, obviously, most of us consciously avoid negative emotions.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And to that question, why we want to watch things
- 2:55Speaker 1: that are going to scare the hell out of us,
- 2:57Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of information. Psychologically. We want the thrill,
- 3:01Speaker 1: I get it. We want to feel like we're in
- 3:03Speaker 1: the situation without truly being in the situation, without the
- 3:06Speaker 1: negative consequences. We want that in doorphin rush. I think
- 3:10Speaker 1: that's simple and easy to understand, but it strikes me
- 3:13Speaker 1: that there's probably something else there that keeps drawing. It's
- 3:16Speaker 1: like the phenomenon of women who love, you know, sort
- 3:21Speaker 1: of the slasher true crime stuff. There's been a lot
- 3:25Speaker 1: of think pieces written on that with the expansion of podcasting,
- 3:30Speaker 1: But you know, as it pertains to horror movies, that's
- 3:32Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. I don't watch a lot
- 3:34Speaker 1: of horror movies, mainly because my wife doesn't watch a
- 3:37Speaker 1: lot of horror. She listens to a lot of true crime.
- 3:40Speaker 1: She's not a horror movie fan. I showed her Halloween
- 3:42Speaker 1: last year. I couldn't believe I got her to watch
- 3:46Speaker 1: it with me, and no joke, she was pissed off
- 3:49Speaker 1: at me for like a week afterward. The experience was
- 3:53Speaker 1: legitimately anxiety inducing for her, which is strange to me,
- 3:57Speaker 1: because I don't even think Halloween is that scary of
- 3:59Speaker 1: a movie. Maybe it was when it was released back
- 4:02Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. I don't know. I wasn't watching
- 4:04Speaker 1: it back in nineteen seventy eight. I was too young,
- 4:06Speaker 1: But I don't find it to be that scary anymore.
- 4:09Speaker 1: You know, it's got the iconic Mike Myers. Of course
- 4:12Speaker 1: he's at face value horrifying, but the film again not
- 4:17Speaker 1: that scary. Maybe it isn't that scary to me because
- 4:20Speaker 1: despite what little horror I watch, the more modern horror
- 4:24Speaker 1: that I have watched is more emotionally manipulative and thus
- 4:28Speaker 1: more scary to me. I think the scariest movie that
- 4:30Speaker 1: I've seen in my entire life is that movie that
- 4:32Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of heat, that movie The Strangers
- 4:35Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight, And I think the reason
- 4:39Speaker 1: is because it feels so real. The movie shot like
- 4:43Speaker 1: super bare bones. It looks. It looks good. It's just
- 4:46Speaker 1: not like a big budget film with a lot of
- 4:48Speaker 1: big sets, not a lot of grandness in the filmmaking,
- 4:51Speaker 1: and I think that makes it more relatable. It's hard
- 4:54Speaker 1: to think of other movies off the top of my
- 4:57Speaker 1: head that have scared me as an adult. The Conjuring,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but that was different. That was because you know, I
- 5:03Speaker 1: saw The Conjuring when it came out in the movie theaters,
- 5:06Speaker 1: in the movie theater, excuse me, in Santa Monica. And
- 5:10Speaker 1: then some years later, five, six, seven years later, whatever
- 5:13Speaker 1: it was, I was flipping through the channels at night
- 5:15Speaker 1: and The Conjuring came on. I was in my bedroom
- 5:18Speaker 1: just north of Boston, and I realized that the hospital
- 5:21Speaker 1: scenes from The Conjuring were filmed right down the road
- 5:24Speaker 1: from where I lived. And it's something I didn't pick
- 5:28Speaker 1: up on the first time when I saw in the theater.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't. It wasn't that scary to me then
- 5:33Speaker 1: in the theater because the context was so different. I
- 5:35Speaker 1: was in Santa Monica, but there in my bedroom, you know,
- 5:40Speaker 1: two miles from where the horror movie was set, or
- 5:43Speaker 1: part of it anyways, and I know the house is
- 5:45Speaker 1: set in like Connecticut or something. But again, I'm talking
- 5:47Speaker 1: about the hospital scenes that scared the hell out of me.
- 5:50Speaker 1: I had to literally get up, walk downstairs, walk around
- 5:55Speaker 1: the house, check the locks, did the whole all that
- 5:57Speaker 1: whole thing. Again, I think it was the context that
- 6:01Speaker 1: made it scary for me, made the film scary for me. Books,
- 6:05Speaker 1: on the other hand, they're a lot scarier to me
- 6:09Speaker 1: than than than horror movies are. Salem's a lot reading
- 6:11Speaker 1: that as a kid. When I think of it now,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I can I can still actually feel what that fear
- 6:16Speaker 1: was that I felt back then. And of course the Exorcist.
- 6:20Speaker 1: We're talking about the Exorcist. We have an Exorcist episode
- 6:23Speaker 1: coming out next week. We're doing a book club next
- 6:25Speaker 1: week on the twenty ninth, Tuesday, the twenty ninth, about
- 6:29Speaker 1: the Exorcist. So if you want to get in on that,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you still got time to read the book. You get
- 6:32Speaker 1: a week almost, you know, But reading it as an adult,
- 6:36Speaker 1: I didn't read The Exorcist as a kid, But reading
- 6:38Speaker 1: it as an adult after seeing the movie as a kid,
- 6:41Speaker 1: reading the book, it's a different type of fear. Okay,
- 6:44Speaker 1: the fear the horror isn't about the green puke and
- 6:47Speaker 1: the profanity spewing from Reagan's mouth. It's it's that the
- 6:53Speaker 1: the horror of it, of the of the book. The
- 6:56Speaker 1: story is wrapped up in my very real faith and
- 7:00Speaker 1: contextualized in spirituality, and it scares the hell out of me. Again, context,
- 7:07Speaker 1: I think the context is what makes this stuff scary
- 7:10Speaker 1: to us. The scariest movies to me are the ones
- 7:13Speaker 1: that are the most realistic. Like I talked about The Strangers,
- 7:15Speaker 1: now The Exorcist. I believe in possession. I believe in
- 7:19Speaker 1: good and evil. I believe that evil travels in unexpected ways.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I believe in God, I believe in the devil, and
- 7:25Speaker 1: I believe, like the Catholic Church believes that in extremely
- 7:28Speaker 1: rare occasions, exorcism is necessary to cast out the spirit
- 7:32Speaker 1: of evil. So, with all that at my core, and
- 7:34Speaker 1: the beautiful writing that is the book The Exorcist, in
- 7:37Speaker 1: the filmmaking that I mean, the film is incredible. With
- 7:42Speaker 1: all that, it's easy to see how that book and
- 7:45Speaker 1: that film scare the hell out of me. The book
- 7:48Speaker 1: mainly though, Now I'm talking all about this because you know,
- 7:51Speaker 1: we released this episode on the Poltergeist, The Curse of
- 7:54Speaker 1: the Poultergeist film series, I should say to get it right,
- 7:57Speaker 1: and the question of the week was you know, I
- 8:00Speaker 1: was talking about how that movie scared the hell out
- 8:02Speaker 1: of me as a kid. It really really did, and
- 8:04Speaker 1: we're going to get into that more later in the episode.
- 8:07Speaker 1: And I asked you guys, what movies scared you? And
- 8:09Speaker 1: I get a lot of great feedback. So many great
- 8:12Speaker 1: horror movies from the eighties, the nineties, the seventies as well.
- 8:17Speaker 1: You know, if we're all relatively the same age, give
- 8:20Speaker 1: or take a decade or so here in Disgraceland, I
- 8:24Speaker 1: think we're lucky with the horror movies. We came up
- 8:26Speaker 1: with pretty incredible stuff. And I got a lot of
- 8:30Speaker 1: great incoming voicemails, texts, emails, dms, et cetera from you
- 8:36Speaker 1: guys on the answer to the question of the week,
- 8:39Speaker 1: which movies scared the hell out of you as kids?
- 8:42Speaker 1: I want to read to you though, just to again
- 8:43Speaker 1: because we're talking about context here, different type of context.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I want to read to you guys. I went to
- 8:48Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes and I wanted to find some lists of
- 8:51Speaker 1: the scariest films of these previous decades. So going to
- 8:56Speaker 1: the eighties. The ten scariest films in reverse order, ding
- 9:00Speaker 1: to Rotten Tomatoes, which I went to on purpose because
- 9:02Speaker 1: it's kind of like a voted on type of thing
- 9:05Speaker 1: as opposed to just completely editorialized. But anyways, here we go.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Number ten Evil Dead Too. Now I'm gonna give you
- 9:11Speaker 1: my comments on these as I kind of breezed through
- 9:13Speaker 1: them here, and if you guys have any comments, hit
- 9:16Speaker 1: me up. You know how to do it. Six one seven,
- 9:17Speaker 1: nine oh six, six six three eight at disgrace landpot
- 9:21Speaker 1: So anyways, Number ten Evil Dead Too. Okay, I've seen
- 9:23Speaker 1: Evil Dead two, not that scary. Number nine Stephen Kingk's
- 9:26Speaker 1: Dead Zone. I don't remember the film, though I have
- 9:28Speaker 1: seen it. Christopher Walking the book, on the other hand,
- 9:32Speaker 1: just like Salem's Lot, completely frightening. Number eight Henry Portrait
- 9:36Speaker 1: of a serial Killer. Okay, what was this? I thought
- 9:39Speaker 1: this was a nineties movie, but I guess this is
- 9:41Speaker 1: eighty nine. Maybe very scary movie, but I wouldn't categorize
- 9:45Speaker 1: it as horror, though Rotten Tomatoes does. Henry Portrait of
- 9:49Speaker 1: a serial Killer American Werewolf of London. Number seven super scary,
- 9:54Speaker 1: super scary to me as a kid, I saw it
- 9:56Speaker 1: in the theaters when it came out, pretty sure. My
- 9:59Speaker 1: dad took me.
- 10:00Speaker 2: You know.
- 10:01Speaker 1: There's got the great special effects. That's kind of what
- 10:03Speaker 1: this movie is is known for. I watched this movie
- 10:07Speaker 1: almost every year. It still kind of scares me, particularly
- 10:10Speaker 1: the stuff out on the moors, the country side, the
- 10:12Speaker 1: spookiness of the English countryside, just and the transformation piece.
- 10:16Speaker 1: There's something in storytelling too. It's a trope for a reason,
- 10:20Speaker 1: like what a character transforms, and when they literally transform
- 10:23Speaker 1: in these horror movies. I think it does something else
- 10:26Speaker 1: to us, to the fear factor within us. So seven
- 10:29Speaker 1: American Werewolf of London, I get it. I think it
- 10:31Speaker 1: should perhaps be even higher on the list. But number six,
- 10:34Speaker 1: Return of the Living Dead, I've never seen it. Number
- 10:36Speaker 1: five Little Shop of Horrors. Coincidentally, just watched this the
- 10:39Speaker 1: other night with my kids. Not scary. I don't even
- 10:41Speaker 1: know why it's on here. This should not be on here.
- 10:43Speaker 1: For the fly, I get it. We're talking more about
- 10:46Speaker 1: that transformation thing. This is Cronenberg. This is I almost
- 10:50Speaker 1: said Steve Gutenberg, but it's Jeff Goldbloom, correct, Yeah, Jeff Coldbloom.
- 10:54Speaker 1: And they're talking about the eighties of the Fly, not,
- 10:57Speaker 1: of course, the original three reanimator. I've never seen it too,
- 11:01Speaker 1: our girl Sigourney Weaver and Aliens, who we covered a
- 11:05Speaker 1: couple episodes ago. Again, that's Aliens, not alien and number one,
- 11:11Speaker 1: which I get. I don't agree with it, but I
- 11:13Speaker 1: get it. Nightmare on Elm Street. I was at the
- 11:18Speaker 1: perfect age to not be scared by Nightmare on Elm Street.
- 11:22Speaker 1: It came just like a just too late, like a
- 11:26Speaker 1: year too late for me, and I just found the
- 11:29Speaker 1: whole thing to be cheesy. But conversely, a couple of
- 11:33Speaker 1: years before Friday the thirteenth, Jason vorhees that shit I
- 11:37Speaker 1: found would be really scary. Night Mare on Elm Street,
- 11:40Speaker 1: this set of cheese fat. I was a little too old.
- 11:43Speaker 1: I was getting to be a little too cool for school.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I'd like to go back and watch it, though, because honestly,
- 11:47Speaker 1: I have not watched this movie. I think since I
- 11:50Speaker 1: was a kid, and the idea of like, you know,
- 11:52Speaker 1: the Boogeyman under the bed or whatever the hell it
- 11:53Speaker 1: is I don't remember, is fucking frightening, So I get
- 11:56Speaker 1: why this one is number one. Poltergeist is not even
- 11:58Speaker 1: on the list, guys. It did come in at eleven
- 12:02Speaker 1: eighty eight percent Rotten Tomatoes rating. But yeah, I mean,
- 12:07Speaker 1: come on, Little Chapahara's Polter Guy should be on this list. Okay,
- 12:09Speaker 1: let's go to the nineties. Real quick. Number ten audition,
- 12:12Speaker 1: never seen it, no idea what it is. If anyone
- 12:14Speaker 1: see an audition, let me know. Number nine six cents, Yes,
- 12:17Speaker 1: very scary. I've only seen this movie once. My oldest
- 12:20Speaker 1: son has been begging me to watch it. He's only
- 12:22Speaker 1: ten years old. I saw this when it came out.
- 12:25Speaker 1: I need to see it again. I love m Night
- 12:27Speaker 1: Shamalan's movies, most of them that I've seen anyway. Is
- 12:30Speaker 1: Number eight Blair Witch, also super frightening. Number seven Tremors.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I don't remember it, but I think I watched it,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and I think I was scared. Number six Dead Alive,
- 12:39Speaker 1: never seen it. Number five Kronos, never seen it. Number
- 12:42Speaker 1: four Misery not really scary, not just it's not. Number
- 12:47Speaker 1: three Iraq Nophobia ninety three percent Rotten Tomatoes. Iraq neophobia.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I don't remember that being scary. I remember that being
- 12:53Speaker 1: kind of a joke. Number two Silence of the Lambs,
- 12:56Speaker 1: truly frightening. And number one I need to see this more.
- 13:00Speaker 1: I have not seen this movie, and I'm embarrassed. I'm ashamed. Frankly,
- 13:04Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed and ashamed. What movie is that from? I
- 13:06Speaker 1: can't remember. Number one The Ring? Ninety eight percent. Have
- 13:10Speaker 1: you guys seen The Ring? I know some of you
- 13:11Speaker 1: have talked to me about it before. Okay, real quick,
- 13:14Speaker 1: for the rest of the old heads out there, I'm
- 13:15Speaker 1: gonna quickly run down the top ten from the seventies.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Number ten, The Wicker Man. This scared the shit out
- 13:20Speaker 1: of me as a kid. I've only watched it once.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I'm going back to watch it again, perhaps this week.
- 13:25Speaker 1: And number nine Carrie. Is Carrie really that scary or
- 13:28Speaker 1: is it just horrifying? I would say it's horrifying. Number
- 13:30Speaker 1: eight Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Number seven. Don't look now,
- 13:34Speaker 1: I've seen this one, Donald Sutherland, Julie Christi, but I
- 13:38Speaker 1: without sound. Don't ask me why I need to watch
- 13:41Speaker 1: it again. I think it's on criteria. Number six Alien, Yes, horrifying,
- 13:44Speaker 1: very scary. Five Suspiria made by Anthony Bourdain's girlfriend's dad, Diargento.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Not really scary, but worth a watch a vibe horrific vibe.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Number four, I guess this is the remake of Nose Faratu,
- 14:01Speaker 1: which I've never seen. I've seen the original. Number three,
- 14:04Speaker 1: Young Frankenstein not scary, It's comedy. Number two Halloween talked
- 14:09Speaker 1: about that earlier number one scariest movie from the nineteen seventies.
- 14:15Speaker 1: You're all waiting for me to say the Exorcist, but
- 14:18Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it because it ain't number one.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Number one Jaws. Jaws left field choice. There. I get it,
- 14:29Speaker 1: it is scary. I still have a problem going in
- 14:33Speaker 1: the water. I have my whole life. I'm so afraid
- 14:35Speaker 1: of sharks. I have a shark tattoo, I have a
- 14:38Speaker 1: shark app on my phone, and every summer I sit
- 14:41Speaker 1: on the beach as my kids are in the water
- 14:42Speaker 1: and I monitor it. I'm psycho about my fear of sharks,
- 14:46Speaker 1: and it's because of Jaws. However, the Exorcist is number
- 14:51Speaker 1: twenty three on this frickin' list. Doesn't make any sense.
- 14:55Speaker 1: And there's a bunch between ten and twenty three that
- 15:00Speaker 1: I'd never seen before or heard of, and I'm like,
- 15:03Speaker 1: what is this? I got to see these things. So anyways,
- 15:06Speaker 1: that'll contextualize the conversation. We're going to get into in
- 15:09Speaker 1: a little bit. When we come back after this break,
- 15:10Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the question of the week
- 15:12Speaker 1: and your answers to what the scariest movie of your
- 15:15Speaker 1: childhood was. Now listen before we do that, I gotta
- 15:19Speaker 1: just I gotta clean something up here. Next week's episode,
- 15:21Speaker 1: like I said, is on the Exorcist, and at the
- 15:24Speaker 1: end of that episode I posed a question of the
- 15:26Speaker 1: week that is just it's too similar to last week's
- 15:30Speaker 1: question of the Week. I don't know what I was thinking.
- 15:31Speaker 1: I don't record these things in succession. I record them
- 15:34Speaker 1: all out of order. I messed up. I ask in
- 15:37Speaker 1: the e bloc. The final message of the Exorcist episode
- 15:41Speaker 1: is what's the scariest movie of all time? Now, if
- 15:43Speaker 1: anyone wants to answer that, go ahead. I'm not going
- 15:45Speaker 1: to go back and punch it. However, I think a
- 15:49Speaker 1: better question is when, when you're listening to the Exorcist episode,
- 15:53Speaker 1: be thinking about the fact that this was a book.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Obviously we talk about that in the episode. Is a
- 15:58Speaker 1: book before it was a movie. So the question of
- 16:00Speaker 1: the week, a more a more app question of the
- 16:01Speaker 1: week is what is the scariest book you have ever read?
- 16:05Speaker 1: And we'll get into that in the after party bonus
- 16:07Speaker 1: episode after The Exorcist is released. And if you still
- 16:11Speaker 1: want to hit me up, you want to tell me
- 16:12Speaker 1: about your scariest movie even beyond your childhood, go for it.
- 16:15Speaker 1: We'll talk about that too. Six one seven nine oh
- 16:17Speaker 1: six six six three eight voicemail. Text to let me
- 16:20Speaker 1: know the answer to next week's question of the week
- 16:23Speaker 1: at disgracelam pod on the socials. Disgrace lampod at gmail
- 16:26Speaker 1: dot com. Email to hit me up back in the flash.
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- 18:11Speaker 1: The question of the week from last week was what
- 18:15Speaker 1: movie scared the hell out of you as a kid
- 18:17Speaker 1: because of the Polter guyst episode. That's what I wanted
- 18:19Speaker 1: to know. Let's go to Ish in the seven eight.
- 18:20Speaker 3: One, Jake, what up your boy ish?
- 18:25Speaker 2: Long time? Hope all as well?
- 18:28Speaker 3: Sounds like you're still kicking ass about scary things and
- 18:31Speaker 3: scary movies. First off, the video from Yes the Owner
- 18:37Speaker 3: of a Lonely Heart that used to scare the living
- 18:40Speaker 3: shit out of me as a kid. For some reason,
- 18:43Speaker 3: growing up, I was into horror movies. Watched tons of
- 18:46Speaker 3: horror movies. My parents were cool with it. Poltergeist was
- 18:49Speaker 3: one of the creepiest, scariest things I had seen as
- 18:52Speaker 3: a kid. As an adult, I like to watch scary
- 18:54Speaker 3: movies by myself with a lifetoff to see if that
- 18:57Speaker 3: shit scares me. It's tough job a couple of times,
- 19:01Speaker 3: but for the most part not really. But like you said,
- 19:03Speaker 3: Poultergeist threeteen, something about it very creepy, Caroline, Caroline.
- 19:10Speaker 2: I don't know, man, all is well? Give up the
- 19:13Speaker 2: good work, disco.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Ish My man, it's been a long time since you've
- 19:18Speaker 1: called in. I was wondering where you were. I'm happy
- 19:21Speaker 1: to hear your voice. I hope you're doing well up
- 19:23Speaker 1: there in the Northeast. Owner of a Lonely Heart. I
- 19:26Speaker 1: can't remember the video, but I know the song and
- 19:30Speaker 1: I can see. I can see actually the song that's
- 19:33Speaker 1: sort of like those big, massive hits. I can see.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I can see that scaring the hell out of me
- 19:39Speaker 1: as a little kid. Although it didn't scare me, Poltergeist
- 19:42Speaker 1: did as it did to You were relatively the same age,
- 19:44Speaker 1: I believe. And yeah, Carol Anne, just freaky freaky all right,
- 19:48Speaker 1: sh I appreciate you. Let's check out with Steve from
- 19:51Speaker 1: the three one eight three, Steve way way way on
- 19:57Speaker 1: the other side of the world.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Go ahead, Steve Jay.
- 20:01Speaker 5: This is Steve from the three one eight three in
- 20:04Speaker 5: Melbourne in Australia. You were after films that scared the
- 20:09Speaker 5: life out of people. I'm going to nominate American Wealth
- 20:12Speaker 5: in London. I was ten years old when it came out.
- 20:17Speaker 5: I saw it on a home video at a friend's
- 20:19Speaker 5: place and I did not sleep soundly for weeks after that.
- 20:24Speaker 2: It was shown.
- 20:25Speaker 5: A film reviewer played the first thirty seconds and then
- 20:28Speaker 5: some still photos of that famous Rick Baker special effects
- 20:32Speaker 5: scene where David changed into the werewolf for the first
- 20:34Speaker 5: time as in a nighttime talk show, and I thought,
- 20:38Speaker 5: I have to see this film, but my parents were
- 20:41Speaker 5: dead against me seeing it. But of course the Munich
- 20:43Speaker 5: of folks tell you not to do something, that's all
- 20:45Speaker 5: you want to do, right. So anyway, after it left
- 20:48Speaker 5: the cinemas, it came out on home video here and
- 20:51Speaker 5: I saw it at a makesplace after school one afternoon,
- 20:53Speaker 5: and yeah, oil boy, my folks were right on the
- 20:57Speaker 5: money with that call. Anyway, thank you for the podcast.
- 21:01Speaker 5: I'll look forward to hearing plenty.
- 21:02Speaker 1: More stories from this Grice Land, Steve, we are of
- 21:06Speaker 1: like mind, my friend, even though we are oceans apart.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in. I think you may have heard
- 21:12Speaker 1: already me talk about American were Wolf of London. You're
- 21:16Speaker 1: you obviously had responsible parents. They didn't want you to
- 21:18Speaker 1: see it. My parents, My dad took me to see it.
- 21:21Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, this is one of those things
- 21:23Speaker 1: where I know my I know my oldest could maybe
- 21:28Speaker 1: handle it. Maybe I'm being very careful, very careful, and
- 21:32Speaker 1: trying to preserve his innocence and in a balance in
- 21:35Speaker 1: a meaningful way, not in a not in an over
- 21:38Speaker 1: overly protective way. He's got his whole life to watch,
- 21:41Speaker 1: watch these movies, and I'll be watching them with him,
- 21:44Speaker 1: with both my sons. But it's hard, man, it's hard.
- 21:47Speaker 1: You know I want to watch this stuff with him,
- 21:49Speaker 1: especially American Werewolf of London. If anyone hasn't seen American
- 21:51Speaker 1: Werewolf of London, do yourselves a favor and go do
- 21:54Speaker 1: so immediately after this episode. Anyways, Okay, let's check out
- 21:57Speaker 1: with Tony from the two oh six.
- 22:00Speaker 6: What's having him?
- 22:00Speaker 4: Brother?
- 22:01Speaker 2: You know who it is?
- 22:02Speaker 6: Tony from the two oh six. Just got done listening
- 22:04Speaker 6: to that Polter guyst episode with my wife and she
- 22:08Speaker 6: is now a fan of the podcast. She actually asked
- 22:11Speaker 6: me to send her that episode so she can play
- 22:13Speaker 6: it again.
- 22:14Speaker 2: She loves speaky stuff.
- 22:16Speaker 6: To answer your question, I'm not gonna give you one movie.
- 22:19Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you four. I'm just gonna list them off,
- 22:22Speaker 2: not any particular order, but.
- 22:23Speaker 6: These are the movies that scared me to where I
- 22:25Speaker 6: can never watch the movie. Okay, here we go, One
- 22:28Speaker 6: Video Drone, two, Jacob Flatter, Three Tales from the Hood,
- 22:33Speaker 6: and four even though it's technically not a scary movie,
- 22:36Speaker 6: but I can't deal with hallucinations, wreck Riem for a Dream.
- 22:39Speaker 6: Those are the four movies I will not watch at all. Okay,
- 22:44Speaker 6: all right, love the show about to listen to the
- 22:46Speaker 6: Robert Johnson episode and keep doing what you're doing.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Much love on the Twillo sext Brother peace.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Tony, thank you for turning us on to your wife
- 22:54Speaker 1: the podcast. Appreciate that Videodrome never seen it. Jacob's Ladder
- 22:59Speaker 1: legitimately horrifying. Jacob's Ladder legitimately horrifying. I cannot believe I
- 23:05Speaker 1: forgot to mention that earlier. It's worth mentioning that Jacob's
- 23:09Speaker 1: Ladder was a big influence on my writing for the
- 23:13Speaker 1: John Denver episode that we have done. So if you
- 23:16Speaker 1: want to want to know what I'm talking about, go
- 23:17Speaker 1: back in the archive and check that out. Tales from
- 23:20Speaker 1: the Hood, Never seen It, Requiem for Dream Hubert Selby.
- 23:24Speaker 1: I don't remember it being scary. I remember it being
- 23:26Speaker 1: miserable but being really good. Yeah. Anyways, hope you dig
- 23:30Speaker 1: the Robert Johnson episode. I tried to make it super devilish.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I hope that comes through. Richard from the nine to
- 23:35Speaker 1: one six.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, it's Richard from nine to one six, a
- 23:40Speaker 2: relatively new listener. Really, Doug your Pull for Guys episode
- 23:44Speaker 2: that was always one of my favorites growing up. I
- 23:47Speaker 2: remember seeing it in the theaters. But the one that
- 23:50Speaker 2: really scared me when I was young. Was the one
- 23:53Speaker 2: and only original Phantasm from nineteen seventy nine here locally,
- 23:59Speaker 2: and they showed it uncut after the news one night,
- 24:04Speaker 2: like maybe six months after it came out, and I
- 24:07Speaker 2: stayed up and scared the shit out of myself. He
- 24:11Speaker 2: thought's a good work, man, Thanks.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Richard, good to have you here. Man. Appreciate the new listeners.
- 24:17Speaker 1: The shooting of Fantasm locally again here we go with
- 24:21Speaker 1: the context right, makes it, makes it scarier, I bet
- 24:26Speaker 1: just a little bit pushes it over the edge for you,
- 24:28Speaker 1: or did as a kid anyways, And showing it after
- 24:30Speaker 1: the eleven o'clock news or whatever it was, that's that's amazing.
- 24:36Speaker 1: I'm a huge Stephen King fan. Well, I should say
- 24:39Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Stephen King's books, some of
- 24:43Speaker 1: Stephen King's books, not a whole lot of his movies,
- 24:46Speaker 1: but some of the movies are great. And he'll tell
- 24:48Speaker 1: you the same thing. And just to your note about
- 24:52Speaker 1: Phantasm being being shot nearby in your hometown. Recently, within
- 24:58Speaker 1: the last ten years, in my hometown of Clinton in Massachusetts,
- 25:01Speaker 1: they shot Castle Rock and that was a trip. That
- 25:07Speaker 1: was a trip to see I obviously don't live there anymore.
- 25:09Speaker 1: My family does, and it was a trip for them
- 25:12Speaker 1: because Stephen King's production crews rolling around and they've since
- 25:17Speaker 1: shot I think, more television, more Stephen King related television
- 25:21Speaker 1: in Clinton, Massachusetts, and a lot more in Massachusetts. But
- 25:25Speaker 1: to have it in your hometown. And the final scene
- 25:27Speaker 1: of that series takes place at the literal exact spot
- 25:30Speaker 1: where I got drunk for the first time in my life.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I found that to be very, very exciting and thrilling
- 25:35Speaker 1: when I was watching it. But Castle Rock, I guess,
- 25:39Speaker 1: kind of scary for TV for sure. If you haven't
- 25:41Speaker 1: seen it, check that out. All right, let's do some texts.
- 25:43Speaker 1: This one comes from the seven oh six and it's
- 25:46Speaker 1: kind of guys. It's to me, but it's it's kind
- 25:49Speaker 1: of the you guys as well. Seven o six says, Hey,
- 25:52Speaker 1: you know the best thing about your series slash bonus content.
- 25:54Speaker 1: No matter how far I fall behind while dealing with
- 25:57Speaker 1: the next bullshit thing from work, or the first trip
- 25:59Speaker 1: to take my kid to Disney being canceled till next
- 26:02Speaker 1: year due to hurricanes or emergency VET visits to find
- 26:05Speaker 1: out my thirteen year old Kat as a tumor and
- 26:07Speaker 1: her sinus cavity. It's having that good familiar feeling listening
- 26:11Speaker 1: to an old friend pickup right where we left off
- 26:14Speaker 1: the last time. And the more I think about it,
- 26:16Speaker 1: even though I'm a dedicated metal head, the more I
- 26:18Speaker 1: find out my life is a lot more like those
- 26:20Speaker 1: old country songs. And I ever care to admit, I
- 26:22Speaker 1: hope all of you working out there have that one
- 26:25Speaker 1: thing that makes you get out of your head for
- 26:26Speaker 1: a few minutes a day, like you do for me.
- 26:29Speaker 1: He's talking about the podcast here, and if not, I
- 26:31Speaker 1: got an old beat up pickup truck in my backyard
- 26:33Speaker 1: with a bag full of wrenches and spare parts. If
- 26:35Speaker 1: you ever need a life distraction. Take care you guys.
- 26:38Speaker 1: I love that. I wish you gave me your name.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Seven oh six. It's great, great text. Appreciate it. Eight
- 26:43Speaker 1: point two writes in The Fucking Cramps my new favorite episode.
- 26:47Speaker 1: The Cramps, Devo and the Blasters were my first favorite
- 26:50Speaker 1: bands when I was six. What when you were six?
- 26:54Speaker 1: Great taste for a six year old? Is that a
- 26:56Speaker 1: flex or what? I don't care. It's awesome. Then you
- 26:58Speaker 1: go on to Saysters were my first show. Nice good
- 27:02Speaker 1: for you. Love the blasters American music. Okay, Textter goes
- 27:05Speaker 1: on to say I grew up by coastal between Riverside,
- 27:08Speaker 1: California and Rutland, Vermont. Okay, Riverside, California. That explains the blasters.
- 27:12Speaker 1: But Textter goes on to say my dad owned thrift
- 27:14Speaker 1: stores in San Bernardino and Riverside in the eighties. He
- 27:17Speaker 1: also played bass guitar in various bands. Okay, I'm starting
- 27:20Speaker 1: to believe you here, huge car and rockabilly scene in
- 27:23Speaker 1: the Inland Empire. Lux and Poison IVY would occasionally come
- 27:26Speaker 1: into my dad's stories and he saw them perform a
- 27:29Speaker 1: handful of times. My pops who wake us up blasting
- 27:32Speaker 1: the song garbage Man at us, He would say, wake
- 27:34Speaker 1: up and go to school. You're gonna end up a
- 27:36Speaker 1: garbage man. I would be buried in my yellow Bad
- 27:39Speaker 1: Music for Bad People t shirt. Also, the song Surfing
- 27:42Speaker 1: Dead that they did for the Return to a Living
- 27:44Speaker 1: Dead is a great underrated Halloween song. Happy rock a
- 27:47Speaker 1: rolla Halloween, Keep it spooky. Mister Jake's side note word
- 27:50Speaker 1: of advice never never, never play the Cramps for your girl.
- 27:54Speaker 1: I'm not gonna reading the rest of that great texts
- 27:58Speaker 1: aside from the addendum, nice work, damn man, your dad.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Your dad hooked you up. And if you guys haven't
- 28:05Speaker 1: heard the Cramps episode from last week, I invite you
- 28:07Speaker 1: to go do so. Uh aight, oh two knows what
- 28:10Speaker 1: they're talking about? Four two five writes and Hey Jake,
- 28:13Speaker 1: it's Julie from the four two five. Listen to Low
- 28:16Speaker 1: Cut Connie.
- 28:17Speaker 4: Damn.
- 28:18Speaker 1: I like the music big time. Thanks for the heads up.
- 28:20Speaker 1: On another note, not the greatest band of all time,
- 28:23Speaker 1: but a big kick ass American band, the Smithereens. Julie,
- 28:27Speaker 1: Thanks for the text. You're in for a treat. We've
- 28:30Speaker 1: got an interview with Adam from Low Cut Connie coming
- 28:33Speaker 1: up right after this. All right, guys, we are back.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Lots going on in this episode. A couple things real quick.
- 28:54Speaker 1: You guys want to spread some love for the show.
- 28:56Speaker 1: I know you do. You asked me about it all
- 28:58Speaker 1: the time, and I appreciate you, and you know what
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- 29:02Speaker 1: that is to go to Apple Podcasts or go to
- 29:04Speaker 1: Spotify leave a review for the show, and as you know,
- 29:07Speaker 1: I read one of the reviews every week or a
- 29:09Speaker 1: couple anyhow, and if I read it here in the episode,
- 29:12Speaker 1: you get some free merch for all of those who
- 29:15Speaker 1: have reviewed the show and who I've I've spoken about,
- 29:18Speaker 1: and I read your reviews on the after party. I
- 29:21Speaker 1: believe that I that I got all the merch out
- 29:23Speaker 1: to you over the last weekend. If I did not,
- 29:25Speaker 1: if I did not, if you contacted me and I
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- 29:31Speaker 1: it shouldn't be this complicated, but it is. There's like
- 29:33Speaker 1: three different emails that the things go to and all
- 29:35Speaker 1: this other nonsense. But I think I got you taken
- 29:37Speaker 1: care of it. If I didn't, I apologize and I will.
- 29:39Speaker 1: So I just want to hit these real quick. Amy
- 29:41Speaker 1: leap Heerce on Apple Podcasts. I'm not going to read
- 29:43Speaker 1: your review, but it made me very happy. It's almost
- 29:46Speaker 1: too complimentary, and I don't want to be blowing smoke
- 29:48Speaker 1: up my own ass here and any more intensely than
- 29:52Speaker 1: I usually do. But also, you know, just hit me up.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I really appreciated Amy, this very very kind thing for
- 29:58Speaker 1: you to say. I'm going to read this one here.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Germ redrum Skates writes on Apple Podcasts being from the music, art,
- 30:03Speaker 1: slash skateboarding communities over forty years. This podcast is so great.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Sharing the stories of the chaos it follows musicians and
- 30:11Speaker 1: artists is a great way to connect even more with them.
- 30:13Speaker 1: The storytelling is easy to follow and intriguing. Highly recommend Germ.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Get in touch Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com and
- 30:20Speaker 1: I will hook you up with some merch. Appreciate that, guys,
- 30:23Speaker 1: I really appreciate the request. We're an independent podcast. This
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- 30:30Speaker 1: this Shawn Comb shit right. You may have noticed in
- 30:33Speaker 1: the B block here at the top of the show.
- 30:35Speaker 1: This is the first week in the last three weeks
- 30:38Speaker 1: where I didn't lead with Seawan Combe's news. And it
- 30:42Speaker 1: wasn't because there was no Shawn Combs news. There was
- 30:44Speaker 1: actually some quite horrifying Shawn Combs news. And I was
- 30:49Speaker 1: talking to Matt who works with me here at Double Elvis,
- 30:53Speaker 1: and you know he puts these shows together. Excuse me,
- 30:55Speaker 1: I'm moving my chair. You can hear that in the background.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I apologize and it's like, dude, what are we gonna do?
- 31:00Speaker 1: This Shaw Comb shit is not stopping. The listeners want
- 31:04Speaker 1: to hear it. I know they want to hear it.
- 31:05Speaker 1: You guys have written to me about it numerous times,
- 31:07Speaker 1: many of you have. But I don't want to cannibalize
- 31:11Speaker 1: what we have going on here and just kind of
- 31:13Speaker 1: eat the whole show up and suck up all the
- 31:14Speaker 1: oxygen or whatever metaphor you want to use. So I
- 31:18Speaker 1: think what I'm going to do is I'm actively pursuing
- 31:21Speaker 1: a way to tell this shan Comb's story in with
- 31:26Speaker 1: my form of storytelling and how that comes to life.
- 31:30Speaker 1: We've got some ideas, we're working with some different people.
- 31:33Speaker 1: I haven't quite nailed it down yet, but I'm on
- 31:35Speaker 1: it now. As it pertains to the week to week
- 31:39Speaker 1: nature of this scandal as it unfolds, I think what
- 31:42Speaker 1: we're going to do is in the after party there
- 31:45Speaker 1: will be a Shawn Comb section that I will just
- 31:48Speaker 1: I'll continue to bring you guys up to speed. I
- 31:51Speaker 1: will continue to bring you up to speed, most likely
- 31:54Speaker 1: here in the wide version of the show, but also
- 31:57Speaker 1: in the all access version of the bonus show that
- 32:00Speaker 1: the Patreon members get. And so I'm going to do
- 32:02Speaker 1: a little bit of that now right before we get
- 32:04Speaker 1: to Adam from Loko, Connie this Buzzby guy who we
- 32:06Speaker 1: talked about last week. We talked about the lawsuit, the
- 32:09Speaker 1: civil lawsuit that he filed with six different complainants alleging abuse. Okay,
- 32:16Speaker 1: he filed another one this week with five five alleged
- 32:21Speaker 1: victims coming forward for some pretty damning information. And he
- 32:27Speaker 1: is alleging Tony Busby for the first time rape abuse
- 32:32Speaker 1: of a minor. So this changes things quite significantly. And
- 32:36Speaker 1: I'm telling you this first of all, the specifics of
- 32:39Speaker 1: the allegations are more horrifying than the specifics of the
- 32:45Speaker 1: allegations that I read you last week from the Macy
- 32:47Speaker 1: stock room with Sean Dittycombs. It should be noted that
- 32:51Speaker 1: Diddy's lawyers have denied that these allegations are true. And
- 32:56Speaker 1: I'm not going to do the thing where I'm going
- 32:58Speaker 1: to detail there and go through the whole thing here
- 33:02Speaker 1: again like I did last week. I'm just going to
- 33:03Speaker 1: tell you some facts on what's happening with this case.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Buzzby is going full speed ahead like we thought he would,
- 33:10Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that every week we're going
- 33:12Speaker 1: to get a handful of new victims who come forward
- 33:15Speaker 1: with lawsuits from Busby's law office.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Now.
- 33:18Speaker 1: The reason I bring up the thirteen year old here
- 33:21Speaker 1: because in the federal indictment, which still remains as Sean
- 33:27Speaker 1: Combs's biggest obstacle here, okay, is the federal case against him.
- 33:32Speaker 1: That is why he is in jail. Okay, He's not
- 33:35Speaker 1: in jail because of these civil complaints obviously, but in
- 33:38Speaker 1: the federal indictment there's nothing about minors. Now, if the
- 33:44Speaker 1: evidence that Buzzby is bringing forth and these new civil
- 33:49Speaker 1: complaints becomes information and evidence that the federal prosecutors put
- 33:57Speaker 1: into a superseding indictment. In other words, if they get
- 34:01Speaker 1: wins of some of these allegations and decide that there's
- 34:05Speaker 1: enough real evidence there that they want to roll the
- 34:09Speaker 1: rape of children into their federal indictment, that is going
- 34:13Speaker 1: to make Sean Combs his life infinitely more difficult. Because
- 34:19Speaker 1: the way Seawan Colmbs is setting up his defense right
- 34:22Speaker 1: now is that he is stating that all of these relationships,
- 34:28Speaker 1: the freak offs, everything that's been alleged in the federal
- 34:32Speaker 1: indictment was consensual. That's the defense that his attorneys are
- 34:38Speaker 1: going to put up, and that it's not easy to defend.
- 34:44Speaker 1: To put that defense forward, I should say, but it
- 34:46Speaker 1: is a lot easier to do that than it is
- 34:51Speaker 1: to argue against the fact that he's being alleged he
- 34:55Speaker 1: abused miners. I'm trying to be very careful with my
- 34:57Speaker 1: words here, as you can tell. And the reason that
- 34:59Speaker 1: it is more difficult to do the latter is because
- 35:02Speaker 1: consent doesn't enter into this in any way, shape or form,
- 35:06Speaker 1: because they're minors. Okay, so if that happens, and that's
- 35:12Speaker 1: a big if, but I don't know the people I'm
- 35:16Speaker 1: listening to, the people I'm talking to, they're not ruling
- 35:19Speaker 1: it out. Now. If that happens, Sean Combs' is life
- 35:22Speaker 1: becomes much much more difficult. So I'm keeping an eye
- 35:27Speaker 1: on that. We get into the all axis portion of this,
- 35:30Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a little bit more about the
- 35:33Speaker 1: specifics here of these new allegations that have come out.
- 35:37Speaker 1: But I want to give you, guys, because I get
- 35:39Speaker 1: asked this question a lot, what do you think is
- 35:40Speaker 1: going to happen? When is this going to happen? Is
- 35:42Speaker 1: it going to be a trial? Is he going to
- 35:44Speaker 1: be found guilty? I want to give you a little
- 35:46Speaker 1: bit of news that broke over the last two weeks
- 35:49Speaker 1: and just explain to you what I think is going
- 35:51Speaker 1: to happen in this case over the next six twelve,
- 35:54Speaker 1: eighteen months. Sean Colmes has a trial date for May fifth,
- 35:58Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Shawn Combs's team pursued that trial date.
- 36:03Speaker 1: They wanted the trial to happen as soon as possible. Now,
- 36:07Speaker 1: on the other hand, Shawn Combs is making his I
- 36:12Speaker 1: think it's his third appeal to get out on bail.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into the mechanics of it
- 36:18Speaker 1: because it's very complicated. It involves two different judges, and
- 36:22Speaker 1: I would have to say, at this juncture right now,
- 36:26Speaker 1: as I'm recording this on October twenty third, twenty twenty four,
- 36:30Speaker 1: it looks like Shawn Combs might actually be able to
- 36:32Speaker 1: get out on bail. Now, I'm not saying it's definitely
- 36:36Speaker 1: going to happen, but I'm saying it is fifty to fifty,
- 36:39Speaker 1: if not slightly better than that, that he gets out
- 36:42Speaker 1: on bail. Now, if he gets out on bail, his
- 36:44Speaker 1: legal team is going to quickly change course, I believe,
- 36:48Speaker 1: and try to get the trial delayed because now he'll
- 36:50Speaker 1: be out of jail, so he's no longer incentivized to
- 36:53Speaker 1: get this trial, you up and run in as soon
- 36:55Speaker 1: as possible, okay, because he'll be out and he's going
- 36:58Speaker 1: to try and mount his defense from outside of a
- 37:01Speaker 1: jail cell, which makes total sense. But if he gets
- 37:03Speaker 1: out on bail, what I'm saying is, if he gets
- 37:05Speaker 1: out on bail, look for the trial to start much later. Now.
- 37:10Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to postpone it. I
- 37:12Speaker 1: don't know how the defense is going to postpone it,
- 37:14Speaker 1: but they're going to try. And you know, they're getting
- 37:16Speaker 1: paid a lot of money, not because they're stupid, so
- 37:18Speaker 1: they might figure it out away.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Now.
- 37:20Speaker 1: On the other hand, you got to keep in mind
- 37:21Speaker 1: also that if the scenario comes forward that I mentioned earlier,
- 37:27Speaker 1: if that actually happens, where the federal prosecutors decide that
- 37:31Speaker 1: they need to add additional charges here, that becomes what
- 37:36Speaker 1: I believe is called a superseding indictment, and then that
- 37:39Speaker 1: will most definitely kick the start date of this trial
- 37:43Speaker 1: down the road even further. So is it likely that
- 37:47Speaker 1: this trial starts on May fifth, twenty twenty four, I'm
- 37:50Speaker 1: saying fifty to fifty at best. I'm no legal expert.
- 37:55Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I know, and I'm doing
- 37:57Speaker 1: it not only because you're asking. I'm doing it for
- 37:59Speaker 1: this other reason. Then I'm gonna start to tell this
- 38:01Speaker 1: story and all of these elements are going to be
- 38:03Speaker 1: part of it, and they're all going to be relevant
- 38:05Speaker 1: and how I tell the story. They're all gonna make
- 38:07Speaker 1: me tell the story in a different way. They're all
- 38:08Speaker 1: gonna make me bring it to you at a different time.
- 38:11Speaker 1: So I'm just laying it all out there for you
- 38:13Speaker 1: so you know where I'm coming from. All right, Sean
- 38:15Speaker 1: Combs putting it to bed. If you want in on
- 38:17Speaker 1: these insane allegations. I'm gonna get into that a little
- 38:20Speaker 1: bit more in the all access version of this coming
- 38:22Speaker 1: up soon. Right now, I want to kick it to
- 38:24Speaker 1: my interview with my good friend Adam Wiener from Low
- 38:26Speaker 1: Cut Connie. For those of you who don't know, I've
- 38:29Speaker 1: been friends with Adam now a couple of years, probably
- 38:32Speaker 1: five years something like that. The cool thing about this
- 38:35Speaker 1: was I was I was a huge fan of his
- 38:36Speaker 1: band before we were friends, and we just sort of
- 38:40Speaker 1: became friends, as you know, through being a fan of
- 38:42Speaker 1: his band, which is always a good thing. You guys
- 38:44Speaker 1: have that experience with bands. You love as well. I
- 38:47Speaker 1: know it. Adam's got a new film out right now
- 38:49Speaker 1: called Art Dealers, which is fantastic. You can go get
- 38:52Speaker 1: that anywhere. I mean, it's available wherever you stream films.
- 38:56Speaker 1: And he's got a new record coming a live record
- 38:58Speaker 1: coming out, I believe November first. And he's got a
- 39:02Speaker 1: huge catalog of low Ka Khanie albums. All of them
- 39:04Speaker 1: are great. I shit you not, They're all incredible. Like
- 39:07Speaker 1: I said, I talk about these guys all the time.
- 39:09Speaker 1: One of the last great rock and roll bands out
- 39:11Speaker 1: there with no more further ado, here's my recent conversation
- 39:15Speaker 1: with Adam from Loka Kanie. Adam, where you at Evan Philly?
- 39:21Speaker 4: Yes, I just got home the other night from my tour.
- 39:26Speaker 4: We got a little break in the tour.
- 39:28Speaker 1: How long is how long's tour? The Leger? You just
- 39:31Speaker 1: finished in the leg? You're about to go on?
- 39:33Speaker 4: Man, we just did twelve days. I'm home through the election,
- 39:39Speaker 4: and then we do another twelve thirteen days and then
- 39:45Speaker 4: we got like, I don't know, six or seven in December.
- 39:48Speaker 4: We do all these annual things in December, and then
- 39:52Speaker 4: I'm taking kind of a bigger break than I've taken
- 39:54Speaker 4: for a while, a couple months, right, Well, that's.
- 39:57Speaker 1: A good time for it, after the holidays. So I
- 39:59Speaker 1: watched the movie. So for those of you guys listening,
- 40:01Speaker 1: Adam Adam from Loka Coni has this new movie out
- 40:05Speaker 1: called Art Dealers, and I would, I don't know if
- 40:09Speaker 1: this is the right categorization, but I would call it
- 40:11Speaker 1: a concert film, even though it's not built as such.
- 40:14Speaker 1: Adam and his band are playing and it's great, and
- 40:17Speaker 1: I love how it starts with a full performance, which
- 40:19Speaker 1: I think is freaking awesome, and then there's really just
- 40:22Speaker 1: cutaways that follow you and the band, and you know,
- 40:26Speaker 1: it's not Hammer the Gods, right, This is not like
- 40:31Speaker 1: you're not cutting away to like wizards and shit, but
- 40:34Speaker 1: you are cutting away to your real life, which is
- 40:37Speaker 1: really friggin interesting. And the juxtaposition is fantastic because I
- 40:42Speaker 1: know you, but I really only know you when you're
- 40:44Speaker 1: out on the road and playing. I mean, that's really
- 40:46Speaker 1: We've done some gigs together and stuff, we've collaborated on.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Things always sort of around around a stage, and I
- 40:53Speaker 1: don't know much about your home life. I don't know
- 40:55Speaker 1: anything about your bandmate's home life, and to get to
- 40:58Speaker 1: see them in that atmosphere is really I just want
- 41:01Speaker 1: to know, like, what made you make It's hard to
- 41:04Speaker 1: make a movie, hard for a musician to make a movie.
- 41:06Speaker 1: What made you go ahead and do this?
- 41:09Speaker 4: Well? I've always wanted to make a film, and I
- 41:15Speaker 4: didn't know that it would be a film about myself,
- 41:17Speaker 4: but you know, I always wanted to make something big
- 41:21Speaker 4: and beautiful, you know, with my songs on film. And
- 41:25Speaker 4: during a pandemic, I went through this thing Jake, where
- 41:27Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I missed a chance to document
- 41:32Speaker 4: Low Cut Connie, because I was always pretty bad about
- 41:36Speaker 4: getting any kind of video footage of us doing shows.
- 41:41Speaker 4: And we had a pretty killer decade leading up to
- 41:44Speaker 4: the pandemic, and we had built something pretty magical, very powerful,
- 41:52Speaker 4: and then it was like, whoa, maybe it's over. Maybe
- 41:57Speaker 4: I don't have this band when I come back. If
- 42:01Speaker 4: we come back, maybe the audience moves on. Maybe I'm
- 42:05Speaker 4: not as healthy, Maybe it's just not there anymore, you know,
- 42:09Speaker 4: And I felt like I missed my moment. And then
- 42:13Speaker 4: coming out of the pandemic, we did like five shows
- 42:17Speaker 4: was our like comeback stick. At the end of twenty one,
- 42:20Speaker 4: not only were the crowds bigger, but the shows had
- 42:24Speaker 4: like a different vibe. It was cathartic. It was like
- 42:27Speaker 4: going to church. I'm an atheist Jew, but like it's
- 42:30Speaker 4: the closest thing to going to church that I've experienced.
- 42:33Speaker 4: Like people are crying, They've got their hands in the air,
- 42:37Speaker 4: people are yelling testify. I mean, it was so powerful,
- 42:42Speaker 4: Like the relationship between the fans and the music got
- 42:45Speaker 4: so much deeper. And I said, let's make this movie
- 42:48Speaker 4: right now. Let's do it right now.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Smart, that makes sense. You know. The obvious question is
- 42:54Speaker 1: why do you think there was this this kind of
- 42:58Speaker 1: this transition into into this different vibe at the live shows.
- 43:02Speaker 1: But I think I know part of that answer, And
- 43:04Speaker 1: part of then that's because of what you did during
- 43:07Speaker 1: the pandemic, where you took advantage of the pandemic in
- 43:10Speaker 1: a way that, I mean, almost better than anyone. Did
- 43:14Speaker 1: I know what that was? Why don't you share that
- 43:15Speaker 1: a little bit with the disgraceund listeners.
- 43:17Speaker 4: Well, this room that I'm in right now talking to you,
- 43:21Speaker 4: which is a tiny little spare bedroom in South Philly,
- 43:25Speaker 4: in my house. You know, I spent a year and
- 43:28Speaker 4: a half every day in this room building this live
- 43:31Speaker 4: stream series called Tough cookies and man. We did one
- 43:36Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen episodes, and you know, to put it
- 43:41Speaker 4: simply to your listeners, what it was was me sitting
- 43:45Speaker 4: in my underwear playing songs. Okay, but it was really
- 43:52Speaker 4: like this interactive variety show. And it started the first
- 43:57Speaker 4: week of the quarantine. My helpless said to me, just
- 44:02Speaker 4: go live and do something. And I said, I've never
- 44:04Speaker 4: done anything like that. I've never gone live. Nobody wants
- 44:08Speaker 4: to see me in my house. He said, just do it.
- 44:11Speaker 4: So we did one with no plan and we had
- 44:16Speaker 4: about five thousand people watching. And I did a second
- 44:19Speaker 4: one on the Saturday, this is the first week of quarantine,
- 44:23Speaker 4: and there were forty thousand people wow, watching me and
- 44:26Speaker 4: my underwear and Willie, my guitar player. The two of us,
- 44:31Speaker 4: we were looking at each other afterwards, like what's going on?
- 44:34Speaker 4: And there's something very powerful that happened, Jake, which was
- 44:38Speaker 4: that after that second broadcast, I got this video message
- 44:43Speaker 4: from these ICU nurses at a hospital in New Jersey
- 44:49Speaker 4: and they showed themselves with an iPad showing my tough
- 44:55Speaker 4: cookie show to these critically ill patients in the ic Wow.
- 45:01Speaker 4: And on on this broadcast, I'm telling people. Mozeltov, motherfuckers.
- 45:06Speaker 4: You made it through another day, and let's we got
- 45:09Speaker 4: to keep your hopes up. You got to keep going.
- 45:12Speaker 4: You cannot get depressed. We got to keep moving, We
- 45:15Speaker 4: got to keep connected.
- 45:16Speaker 2: You know.
- 45:17Speaker 4: It was there to kind of just lift people up.
- 45:19Speaker 4: And when I saw that these nurses were showing it
- 45:21Speaker 4: to these critically ill patients and it was helping people,
- 45:26Speaker 4: I said, I'm going to do this thing until this
- 45:29Speaker 4: quarantine is over.
- 45:30Speaker 6: Now.
- 45:30Speaker 4: I thought that that would be a couple of weeks,
- 45:33Speaker 4: but it ended up being a year and a half.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel that spirit, like you mentioned at
- 45:38Speaker 1: the top of this conversation, and just reinforce there. You
- 45:42Speaker 1: can feel it in the film. You can feel it
- 45:44Speaker 1: from the audience, you can feel it from the filmmaking.
- 45:48Speaker 1: And I think it's really hard to capture the spirit
- 45:54Speaker 1: of rock and roll on film. Never mind the unique
- 45:59Speaker 1: uh situation that low Ka Connie was in post Pandemic,
- 46:03Speaker 1: which is captured in Art Dealers. So muscle toof to you,
- 46:09Speaker 1: musseletof movie. So it's it's a tremendous movie. It's fantastic.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Thank you man, You're You're welcome, and I recommend all
- 46:18Speaker 1: this grace hand listeners. Go check it out. You can
- 46:20Speaker 1: get it. It's available everywhere, Apple, Amazon, YouTube, all over
- 46:24Speaker 1: the place. There's something that you say. However, now we've
- 46:28Speaker 1: talked a lot. We've talked a lot about our music
- 46:31Speaker 1: that we love. We talked a lot about our careers,
- 46:33Speaker 1: what we're doing, where we're going, what we're into, the challenges.
- 46:37Speaker 1: There was a there was a lyric I picked out
- 46:39Speaker 1: from a song in the film, this kind of loneliness
- 46:43Speaker 1: goes out of style. And to me, that hit me
- 46:47Speaker 1: as a guy who's like, I don't know why you
- 46:50Speaker 1: wrote it or what, but I'm just gonna tell you
- 46:51Speaker 1: my interpretation and then you can tell me why you
- 46:53Speaker 1: wrote it and whatever. And if I get it wrong,
- 46:54Speaker 1: that's fine. You know, we all interpret things differently. But
- 46:56Speaker 1: to me, I felt it as a guy who's who's
- 46:58Speaker 1: been on the road and ben just just this feeling
- 47:02Speaker 1: of even when things are going great, it's still so
- 47:06Speaker 1: fucking lonely, man. It's so lonely. And you've been doing
- 47:10Speaker 1: this a long time, man, and you're not stopping. And
- 47:14Speaker 1: I was just curious. That line just hit me. I
- 47:15Speaker 1: was like, huh, what was Adam thinking when he.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Wrote that I wasn't thinking about anything, but I like
- 47:21Speaker 4: your interpretation. I mean one of the things, you know,
- 47:27Speaker 4: when I first started playing music, long before I met you,
- 47:31Speaker 4: I was a piano player in a gay bar. There
- 47:34Speaker 4: was a bar in Manhattan called Pegasus at fifty ninth
- 47:38Speaker 4: in Lexington that it was a wild bar, I mean
- 47:43Speaker 4: nudist night and drag karaoke on Saturdays. And it was
- 47:50Speaker 4: so eye opening to me. It was like a whole
- 47:52Speaker 4: new world. And I was the piano player, and I
- 47:55Speaker 4: met all these people in this bar who had been
- 47:58Speaker 4: in New York City for thirty years plus, dancers, choreographers, singers,
- 48:06Speaker 4: fashion designers, models, like all these art people, older gay
- 48:12Speaker 4: people that hung out in this bar. And they would
- 48:15Speaker 4: talk to me about living in these rent control departments
- 48:19Speaker 4: that they got in the seventies and sixties, and a
- 48:23Speaker 4: lot of you should have seen it when kind of
- 48:26Speaker 4: say right right, right, right right, and being around these
- 48:29Speaker 4: people who had like just lived and breathed their scene,
- 48:35Speaker 4: and many of them were very poor and were living
- 48:42Speaker 4: very modest, you know, circumstances as New York was becoming
- 48:46Speaker 4: a place where poor people can't really live. And they're
- 48:51Speaker 4: telling him about these incredible art scenes about hanging out
- 48:55Speaker 4: with Basquiat and hanging out with Bowie and some of
- 48:59Speaker 4: the older hanging out with Judy Garland. I mean, people
- 49:03Speaker 4: who have been around some of the great, great moments.
- 49:09Speaker 4: You know. I was thinking about those people during a pandemic.
- 49:13Speaker 4: Where are they now? Are they alive? Are they gone?
- 49:16Speaker 4: Does anybody remember these folks? I remember them? And I
- 49:21Speaker 4: was thinking about myself and all my pals who you know,
- 49:27Speaker 4: we burn to make art every day and we do
- 49:31Speaker 4: it for years and decades. And I was going through
- 49:35Speaker 4: a what's it all for? Kind of moment for sure,
- 49:39Speaker 4: and coming out of it and getting back on stage
- 49:42Speaker 4: and singing about that felt good.
- 49:45Speaker 2: You know what.
- 49:46Speaker 4: I'll add to that, not to be too cynical, but
- 49:49Speaker 4: we're in this age of poptimism, as they say, in
- 49:52Speaker 4: which our culture, even though socially, politically, etc. Things are
- 50:00Speaker 4: really fallen apart at the seams. The same time, our
- 50:05Speaker 4: general culture is really enamored with extremely commercial, two dimensional
- 50:11Speaker 4: pop music that's very positive in nature, you know, like
- 50:17Speaker 4: very escapist pop music is like so in fashion right now?
- 50:22Speaker 4: I agree, And he absolutely does not scratch any itch
- 50:27Speaker 4: for me.
- 50:28Speaker 1: With you at you Yeah, it's funny to hear you
- 50:32Speaker 1: say that, because you know, independent of you coming on
- 50:37Speaker 1: this week, it just it just happened. I was in
- 50:42Speaker 1: a conversation with my listeners about it was because we
- 50:44Speaker 1: did this Cramps episode and it was about Lux Interior's
- 50:48Speaker 1: definition of real rock and roll, and there's a cynicism
- 50:53Speaker 1: in real rock and roll. He doesn't say that, but
- 50:56Speaker 1: it's it's true. It's there, and anyone who knows rock
- 50:58Speaker 1: and roll knows that's We've been having this conversation here
- 51:01Speaker 1: in this space about how there aren't any rock and
- 51:04Speaker 1: roll bands left and how rock is dead. But that
- 51:08Speaker 1: conversation takes place in the confines of popular mainstream culture.
- 51:12Speaker 1: And I even namechecked you guys, and I was like,
- 51:14Speaker 1: I as an example of there are rock bands out
- 51:17Speaker 1: there killing it every night, but there are no rock
- 51:20Speaker 1: bands with top ten hits anymore who are driving culture.
- 51:25Speaker 1: And maybe you know, we've been trying to figure out why,
- 51:29Speaker 1: and maybe you're hitting it on the head because that
- 51:31Speaker 1: cynicism isn't allowed anymore.
- 51:33Speaker 4: You cannot in fashion, as I say, it's out of style,
- 51:37Speaker 4: you know exactly, And frankly, even though social media rules
- 51:47Speaker 4: our lives, for some reason. Music that talks about the
- 51:53Speaker 4: human condition and the state of play in our culture
- 51:57Speaker 4: is also out of fashion. It's a very escapist era
- 52:01Speaker 4: that we're in right now, and so songs about revolution,
- 52:07Speaker 4: songs about conflict, songs about you know, corruption and fucked
- 52:16Speaker 4: up inness in all forms, they ain't rise into the
- 52:21Speaker 4: top right now. The algorithm is not bringing those that
- 52:24Speaker 4: music out right now.
- 52:26Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck the algorithm.
- 52:27Speaker 4: And if if rock and roll is a truth telling medium,
- 52:35Speaker 4: well a medium of like catharsis bring out what's real
- 52:40Speaker 4: and what you feel. It's not the era for it
- 52:44Speaker 4: in terms of popularity, but I'll tell you I don't care,
- 52:47Speaker 4: because I like being a cult band right right in
- 52:52Speaker 4: this time.
- 52:53Speaker 1: And what you're doing is resonating, it's connecting. There's there's
- 52:58Speaker 1: your relationship with your fans is unique. It's truly unique.
- 53:00Speaker 1: If you're at a Lokakni show you were part of,
- 53:03Speaker 1: like you said, it's like a I don't know if
- 53:05Speaker 1: you said revival, but you said testify. It's there's there's
- 53:07Speaker 1: some quasi spiritual thing that's that's going on. You can
- 53:12Speaker 1: feel it. It's transcendent. In the movie, there's this great
- 53:16Speaker 1: scene and it reminded me of so I want to
- 53:20Speaker 1: tell the listeners. So I went to see you guys.
- 53:21Speaker 1: Seen you guys a lot. I don't know how many times,
- 53:23Speaker 1: but I went to see you. I happen to be
- 53:26Speaker 1: on vacation with my family on Martha's Vineyard and I
- 53:29Speaker 1: went to see on Martha's Vineyard and you guys, you
- 53:31Speaker 1: guys killed it. And I remember catching up with you
- 53:34Speaker 1: a week or so later, I think in Newport, and
- 53:36Speaker 1: you were like, oh, what fuck? You missed it? Man,
- 53:39Speaker 1: what happened after that show was so fucking wild. Do
- 53:42Speaker 1: you remember, because there was a scene in the movie
- 53:44Speaker 1: that reminded me of this story. Do you remember this?
- 53:46Speaker 1: You remember what happened to you after that show?
- 53:48Speaker 4: I do, because it's the only time in the history
- 53:51Speaker 4: of the band and the thousand shows or whatever, that
- 53:54Speaker 4: we had to charter our own boat. You know, it's
- 54:00Speaker 4: an island, And we had a gig in Massachusetts the
- 54:05Speaker 4: next day and the ferry stops. We were on it
- 54:10Speaker 4: like eleven and I don't remember. We got out of
- 54:12Speaker 4: there at midnight and they said no, the ferry stopped running.
- 54:16Speaker 4: So some guy, and I'm pretty sure his name was Spanky,
- 54:22Speaker 4: this guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.
- 54:24Speaker 4: He said, I'll take you guys on my boat. And
- 54:27Speaker 4: we had to take our piano on this guy's boat.
- 54:32Speaker 4: He had nothing to tie the boat the piano down,
- 54:35Speaker 4: so we all just sort of like held the piano down.
- 54:39Speaker 1: What size boat is this that you're on? Now?
- 54:41Speaker 4: This is like I would say, you could probably fit
- 54:43Speaker 4: maybe twelve to fifteen people on it.
- 54:45Speaker 1: Yes, so it's like at most a twenty foot boat.
- 54:48Speaker 1: It's not you're not on an actual ferry. And this
- 54:51Speaker 1: is at like one two o'clock in the morning.
- 54:54Speaker 4: Two o'clock.
- 54:55Speaker 1: Yeah, in the middle of the fucking Atlantic Ocean. Okay,
- 54:58Speaker 1: this is not like you're not on a pond, you know,
- 55:01Speaker 1: And it's it's a good hours ferry drive something like that,
- 55:05Speaker 1: forty five minutes at least. So, but what happens when
- 55:08Speaker 1: you're when you're all holding down the piano.
- 55:11Speaker 4: Literally, I was getting like pretty nauseous, so I was like,
- 55:16Speaker 4: I'm just gonna start playing songs because that'll keep me.
- 55:19Speaker 4: So I started. I remember playing Gilligan's Island and Margaritaville
- 55:25Speaker 4: and stuff on this boat. But that's just another day
- 55:28Speaker 4: at the office when you're when you tour the way
- 55:31Speaker 4: we do, which is which is truly insane. You know,
- 55:35Speaker 4: people get this image of touring that's glamorous, and I
- 55:40Speaker 4: think it comes from these films from our biggest pop
- 55:44Speaker 4: stars that have come out in the last few years,
- 55:45Speaker 4: Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Taylor Swift. They put out these concert films.
- 55:49Speaker 4: There's a number of them, and they show the touring
- 55:51Speaker 4: and those are truck tours with multiple trucks and buses.
- 55:54Speaker 4: And we're in a van pulling a trailer with a
- 55:57Speaker 4: piano in it. Right right, the members of the band
- 56:01Speaker 4: are carrying a four hundred pounds piano up a flight
- 56:04Speaker 4: of stairs to get onto the stage. You know.
- 56:07Speaker 1: In our Dealers, there's a scene where and I want
- 56:09Speaker 1: to know this story behind this. You're you're in a
- 56:12Speaker 1: back alley somewhere. It looks like the Northeast or the Midwest.
- 56:16Speaker 1: There's snow on the ground. You're I think you're in
- 56:19Speaker 1: a rip tank top and you have a towel around
- 56:22Speaker 1: your neck. It looks to be freezing out and it's
- 56:25Speaker 1: you Denver, Denver, Okay. And it looks like there's two
- 56:28Speaker 1: bouncers standing, you know, on each side of you. And
- 56:31Speaker 1: then there's about you know, twenty or so fans and
- 56:36Speaker 1: like ten feet from you, and they're all singing your
- 56:40Speaker 1: song to you. You're just in the alley, like I'm
- 56:42Speaker 1: guessing after a show like that, what was that? It's amazing.
- 56:46Speaker 4: What happened was a man collapsed at the show. He
- 56:51Speaker 4: had like a cardiac event. He hit his head. We
- 56:55Speaker 4: had to stop the show, emt the whole thing and
- 56:58Speaker 4: we got the show going again, and some schmuck pulled
- 57:02Speaker 4: the fire alarm and I still to this day, nobody
- 57:05Speaker 4: knows why that happened. But we all had to evacuate.
- 57:10Speaker 4: It was ten degrees outside and we were waiting from
- 57:15Speaker 4: the staff to hear are they going to let everybody
- 57:18Speaker 4: back in? And they give me the message we're not
- 57:22Speaker 4: going to be allowed back into the venue. And so
- 57:27Speaker 4: these fans just started singing my song Rio and it
- 57:30Speaker 4: was a nice ending to the night.
- 57:32Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful moment. Just
- 57:35Speaker 1: it's quick, but it's like it's very telling. And if
- 57:38Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys, I didn't know the band,
- 57:40Speaker 1: and I saw that, it'd be like, who the fuck
- 57:42Speaker 1: are these guys? I need I need some of this
- 57:45Speaker 1: in my life so Art Dealers, the film that's out now,
- 57:53Speaker 1: you guys can watch that, Like I said, anywhere. You
- 57:57Speaker 1: have a live album coming out as well, November first.
- 57:59Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Connie Lave Now is that?
- 58:02Speaker 1: Is that? Is that one show? How did you do it?
- 58:05Speaker 1: Is it? Where was it? Tell me a little bit
- 58:07Speaker 1: about that.
- 58:07Speaker 4: It's essentially the soundtrack to the film. It's a lot
- 58:09Speaker 4: of the songs from the movie plus some others, but
- 58:14Speaker 4: it's all recorded in twenty twenty two.
- 58:17Speaker 1: Oh okay, same period.
- 58:20Speaker 4: When the band. You know, I've had thirty people in
- 58:23Speaker 4: this band, right, thirteen drummers. But this lineup that's in
- 58:29Speaker 4: the film was just so special. I felt like it
- 58:33Speaker 4: was kind of like a culmination of over a decade
- 58:36Speaker 4: of work. Yeah, and everybody was really firing on all cylinders.
- 58:41Speaker 4: And I'd never done a live album before, and I thought,
- 58:45Speaker 4: this is such an amazing representation of the thirteen years
- 58:49Speaker 4: of this band and the whole catalog. It turned out
- 58:54Speaker 4: pretty good. And I'm listen, I'm just riding a wave.
- 58:59Speaker 4: I wish I could tell you there was a lot
- 59:00Speaker 4: of planning going on, but this whole band is an accident.
- 59:04Speaker 4: It's all. As I say in the film, and unplanned pregnancy.
- 59:08Speaker 4: I was already thirty. I was already in my thirties
- 59:12Speaker 4: when this band started, and so I'm just stumbling my
- 59:16Speaker 4: way through this whole thing, and it just keeps growing
- 59:19Speaker 4: and expanding and changing, and I just try to grow
- 59:22Speaker 4: and expand with it.
- 59:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's working, man, it's working. One of the
- 59:28Speaker 1: things that I like about our relationship is whenever we
- 59:32Speaker 1: get together and talk, you always you can. I do
- 59:36Speaker 1: the same thing, much to my wife's annoyance, where I
- 59:40Speaker 1: relate everything back to some rock and roll story. You
- 59:45Speaker 1: do the same thing, and you know a lot about
- 59:47Speaker 1: music that I don't know, which is why I hang
- 59:50Speaker 1: out with you. You have tremendous taste, incredible taste, and your
- 59:55Speaker 1: a rock and roll you're a music historian as well,
- 59:58Speaker 1: even if you don't call yourself that. That's what you
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: But I told you when we talked about doing this
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: conversation here that it's Halloween here in Disgraceland and we're
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: heavy into the October programming here, so it's like, Adam,
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: it would be great if you could come on and
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: treat me like a total novice and explain to me
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: screaming Jay Hawkins, because He's somebody that I don't know
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: a lot about. I just guessed that you do know
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: a lot about it. You know, we didn't prep for
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: this hardly at all, and I've been asked continuously to
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: do an episode on Screaming Jay Hawkins. And all I
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: know about the guy besides I put a spell on
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: you is I think he had something like, you know,
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: seventy five children or something like that.
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Yeah, and that we know of.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: That we know of, and that's really it. I mean,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: I put him on Spotify. But as I was setting
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: up the mic and I heard covering Paul McCartney's Monkberry
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: Moon Delight, which was so good. But yeah, man, just
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: lay it on me. Laying on the Disgraceland listeners anything
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: about Screaming Jay Hawkins, particularly as it pertains to sort
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: of the darker halloweeny horror type stuff.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: I mean, Screaming Jay Hawks. First of all, people will
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: probably know I put a spell on you. I put
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: a spell on you as a standard, and maybe they
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: know the Nina Simone version, Credence, the Credence version. But
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: Screaming Jay that was his song and it's I still
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: think one of the greatest rock and roll songs ever recorded,
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: and there's no other song like it. There's truly no
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: other song like it. He was drunk off of his
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: face when he made that song self admittedly, and you
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: can tell, well, what's funny that I think is interesting
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: about it is in his drunkenness, in this vocal performance,
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: he accesses this place that's like simultaneously terrifying, confusing, and
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: very sad.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: The tenor of that song is, you don't love me anymore?
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: And I need to put like a hoodoo on you
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: to trick you back into loving me again, And why
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: don't you love me anymore?
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: You know?
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: He was a total one off. He would come out
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: on stage in a coffin. They bring him out of
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: the coffin. He'd had a bone in his nose. He'd
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: have a scepter with shrunken heads hanging off of it.
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: It was extremely macabre, as they say, right, it was dark,
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: it was scary, and he had this operatic trained, operatic
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: voice which you can hear in these recordings.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: Really formally trained.
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: I mean, he could have been at the Metropolitan Opera
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: in his career. I mean, that's how powerful a singer
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: he was. But thank goodness, He used those skills for
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: something so strange and original, and there's a collection called
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: cow Fingers and Mosquito Pie. Pretty good introduction. He wrote
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: some incredible songs Frenzy, and then later, interestingly enough, Tom
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: Waits became a huge, you know, sort of protege of his.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: When you talk about the strangiosity when you go into
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: a recording studio, what Scream and Jay would do is
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: you try to create that theater of the mind where
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: you're hearing. He create like a jungle scene, right, and
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: you're hearing people. You're hearing like cheetahs and lions in
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: the distance, and mosquitoes buzzing, and then people screaming, and
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: then all these weird instruments, and it's this very three
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: dimensional sound.
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Did Waits do that with sort of the you know,
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: born in the back of a taxi cab type vibe,
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: with the cityscape and all that.
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: I think around the time of Swordfish, Trump Bones with
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: Tom Waits going into the eighties when he got really
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: deep into this three dimensional theater of the mind style
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: of recording where the different people are at different distances
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: from the microphone to create this three dimensional space in
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: your mind. I really feel like that was descendant from
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: Screaming Jay Hawkins. And also that combination that Tom Waits
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: has of the sort of dark CD underbelly mixed with romanticism.
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: You know that scream in Jay is it's scary in
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: the way that a horror film is scary, but it's
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: also like tender. There's a lot of love subjects in
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: his songs.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that probably speaks to his appeal. I
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: wonder was was I put a spell on you? Was
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: Was that a hit hit or was it like a
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: novelty hit?
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: Both? I mean, that really was a hit. He did
- 1:04:58Speaker 4: it on television. He became rather famous from it on
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: the level of like a like a Buddy Holly or
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: something in the middle fifties. But he was just so
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: whack adoodle that he didn't have a second hit.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: So what's the story with the seventy plus kids? Is
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: it just exactly what we imagined it to be or
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: is there anything else worth mentioning there?
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: All I know is in two thousand and one, I
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: think it was I was working I was an intern
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: at a radio station in Memphis, Tennessee, and my boss
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: at the time he said, check this out, and he
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: gives me this letter that they got and it was
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: from a website called jays Kids dot Com and it
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: was some of his family members going around and asking
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: radio stations to broadcast this thing where they were like,
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: if you were think, if you think that you are
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: the descendant of Screaming Jayhawks, go to Jay's Kids dot
- 1:06:02Speaker 4: com and register for a paternity test. Oh my god,
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: wild And my understand, I thought the number was fifty
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: seven verified. I know there were hundreds and hundreds and
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: hundreds of submissions. There's a little film that people can
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: watch online about this because a number of the verified
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: children got together and it's kind of freaky because they
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: kind of all looked like Screaming Jay Wow. And he
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: was a pretty crazy looking guy. Yeah, but man, he
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: had kids all over the world, Philippines, Hawaii, New York, Germany.
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: I mean, he really spread it around.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: What was it? What was the mephestation? I could ask.
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: Man, there's a radio show and it's still going strong.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: It's called Beal Street Caravan, Okay, And I've actually been
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: interviewed on that show. Nice for low cut Connie. But
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: when I was twenty one years old, I was at
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: the University of Memphis doing musicology, and I was the
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: intern there editing their interviews, and man, they interviewed Sam Phillips,
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: Steve Cropper, Al Green, oh Man, Rufus Thomas, all these
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: amazing legends, mostly of Memphis music.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Was Alex Chilton there at that time or was he
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: in Louisiana?
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: Alex did not live in Memphis at the time, But
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: my stay in Memphis was when I fell in love
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: with Alex's music and met my good friend to this day,
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: Jodi Stevens from Big Star.
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: And speaking of Alex Chilton, you know, we were fortunate
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: enough to get clearance from his family to cover Hey
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: Little Child in the film. Our dealers saw that between
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: you and Me, we also covered a Madonna song, but
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: we were denied the license to put that in the film.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Which song?
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: Dress you up nice? I'm gonna dress you up in Malla.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: All over your body. Damn, man, I can't believe. I
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: can't believe it wasn't allowed.
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: You know why, you know what they said no, because
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: by the way, if Madonna had heard it, she would
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: have said yes, right right. But that's one of her
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: songs that she didn't participate in the writing. It was
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: this married couple and they didn't like that. I said
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: the word motherfucker during the performance of the song.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: Dude, what year is this? Unbelievable? Unreal? Unreal? All right, well, hey,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: next time, next one, you should be doing borderline. Anyways,
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: that's the Madonna song I have covered.
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna say this right here on
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: the air with you. I've been toying with doing a
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: low cut Connie Covers Madonna full album.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: I love that.
- 1:08:55Speaker 4: Been like toying with that for a few years. I
- 1:08:57Speaker 4: love that because over the years I have covered a
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: number of Madonna songs and I do them my way. Yeah,
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: but there's so many of her songs that are so
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: elemental that they're good. They're kind of great in any presentation.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: Yeah, So maybe I'll do that.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: Man, there you go. I love it. Come back on.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when you do do it.
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: I will invite Screaming Jay's kids on too. It'll be
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: a blast. Due everybody. Adam from Lowkat Connie Art Dealers,
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: remind me what the name of the new album is.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: It's coming on in November first. This will hit before that.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Connie Live, Connie Live, that's easy to remember. Thanks dude,
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: appreciate you, Thank you for coming on.
- 1:09:39Speaker 4: Thank you, my man. I appreciate you.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: All right, guys. As you can see, Adam is a smart,
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: passionate musician artist. Loved that conversation. Hope you douget as well.
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: Hope you check out his movie. Hope you check out
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: his music. Hope you go see them live. Low Ka,
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: Connie's incredible live. You'll have an amazing time. And yeah,
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: I was really happy that he was able to do that.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: So Adam, if you're listening, thank you, my man. This
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- 1:11:04Speaker 1: All right. Book Club October twenty ninth. That's coming up
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: fast too. That's Tuesday, so a couple of days from now.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: You still got time to read the Exorcist and look
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: a little Dirty Secret. If you haven't read the book,
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: just join us. Anyways, it's a fun conversation. Maybe it'll
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: motivate you to read the book. Okay, the book's incredible.
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: Read some of the book. Read the Wikipedia. By the way,
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: there's a crib notes cliff notes version of my book
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: on Amazon. Don't buy it. I have to fix that.
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: I just noticed that the other day. Okay, listen, thanks
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: for all the calls, thanks to the voicemail. Six one
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. Hit me
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: up with the question of the week for next week,
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: which is going to be as you're listening to the
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: Exorcist episode, what book scared the hell out of you?
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: That's what we want to know, as for the archive episodes. Listen.
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: We got this thing going on the website. We just
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: did a little redesign. You go to the listen page.
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: Got my favorite episodes up there. We got them all
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: separated by season, but we got my favorite episodes up there.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: A lot of them we've talked about in here recently.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention those, but some that we have
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: not discussed. The Billie Holiday episode ninety nine, released on
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: April fifth, twenty twenty two, might be one of my
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: favorite episodes of all time. Billie Holiday training her dog
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: to deliver her her heroin. Okay, get in on that.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: The Studio fifty four episode. The music in this episode
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: some of the best music we've ever done for any disgrace,
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: laand Piece. That's episode number fifty eight that's released on
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: May twenty six, twenty twenty I got an email here
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: or a review, I can't remember what it was. Thanks
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: for the reviews. By the way. Someone talking about the
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: Miles Davis episodes. Those are episodes one hundred and one
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: and one hundred and two. Those are amongst my favorite
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: as well. That's May third, twenty twenty two and May seventeenth,
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Check those out, get into the archive.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Got a lot going on. It's Halloween, all kinds of shit.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: Man Yankees are in the world series again, not happy
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: about that. Mets are not also not happy about that.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. Okay, So right now
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: Number one writ in your feed our episode on the
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: Curse the Poulter guyst Film series number two coming tomorrow,
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: a special rewind episode from our archive, and we are
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: talking about the Exorcist episode next week. Question of the week.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: Scariest book you ever read?
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Let me know.
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: Number three merch winners, get in touch. You know who
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: you are. Number four book club again, like I said,
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: come on October twenty nine, get to read that Exorcist.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: Number five. Remember, no one cares about great storytelling more
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: than you do. And well that is a disgrace.
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: In honor of this week's episode subject on the Polter
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: Guy's Curse, me reading to you. The Billboard charts from
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: June fourth, nineteen eighty two. The week Poulter Guyst hit theaters.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: Number one, Ebony and Ivory, Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: last week one peak position one weeks on chart nine.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: Number two don't talk to Strangers. Rick Springfield last week
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: two peak position two, three weeks on Chart fourteenth, number three.
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: I've Never been to me.
- 1:13:58Speaker 7: Charlene Steak weeks on three position peak position three weeks
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: on Shot for seventeen number three, number four, other one eight, six, seven, five,
- 1:14:09Speaker 7: three oh nine, Jenny by Tommy two top five last
- 1:14:13Speaker 7: week So we Shoot peak position number six, weeks on
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: Shark twenty number.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Five, last three others. Don't you want me Baby?
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: Cut it