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Reverse Count of Monte Cristo | Skyfall · Potato Chip Pictures - A Podcast

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  I almost shared Casino Royale with my family and then I, I
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  think I got distracted by something because I was like,
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  oh, I want to pick out the best short that we have for it.
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  And you're like, he made terrible shorts for this.
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  No, last week was last week was really stressful at work.
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  We broke stuff and then like, yeah, so it's it was a week.
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  But hey, I think our with some of their Youtubes have gotten
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  some good amounts of views. Yeah, some of them not really on
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  Instagram that were that, that one doesn't really ever do well.
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  Tiktok goes up and down. It's kind of weird, but I mean,
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  I was glad that more people were listening.
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  It was like, Zoe, it sounds or it looks like they're listening
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  to the older episodes and so they're getting caught up.
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  So, well, that's cool, but I'm over here excited and they're
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  never going to know it. Well, they'll know in like
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  several weeks when they get caught up.
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  Hello and welcome to Potato Chip Pictures, the movie franchise
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  review podcast. Currently looking at the 007
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  Bond franchise. My name is B Sammy Davis.
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  I'm Justin. And today we are looking at
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  Skyfall, directed by Sam Mendes from 2012, the year that the
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  world ended so. It's.
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  One of my favorites, I. Forgot about that it.
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  Was really big. It was such a big deal.
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  I, I told my kids this is, this is an aside.
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  I told my kids that 2012 did happen, that there was a zombie
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  apocalypse and it was really hard.
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  And we, we took care of it and for like the first six to seven
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  months of 2013, it really kind of sucked.
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  But then we got it taken care of and we were like, you know what,
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  it's not that big of a deal. Let's just pretend nothing
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  happened. And so we erased it from all of
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  the history books and just carried on.
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  It'll be fine, nobody will notice.
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  Yeah, so I hope there are other people gaslighting their
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  children in that way. Anyway, Skyfall had a budget
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  somewhere between 150 to $200 million.
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  Not totally locked down from the source I'm looking at, but it
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  had a return of $1.1 billion. That's so crazy.
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  Yep, this is the first time they have broken a billion dollars.
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  This is the only time they have broken a billion dollars.
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  Were they close last time? I don't remember the.
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  Last time they had $586 million on their return, so they they
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  were over half a billion dollars.
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  But then they double it. Geez.
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  Yeah, yeah, Yep. So they did a very good job with
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  this movie. It was a big deal when it came
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  out. 2012 was the London Olympics.
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  And so I, I do remember that Bond was in the Olympics.
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  Yep. He saved the queen and brought
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  her to the Olympics. It was great.
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  So yeah, the point of that being that this movie makes a big deal
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  about how old Bond is and he's been in 2 movies and an
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  Olympics. Like, yeah, it really felt like
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  this was a almost send off. Then like the end is like, Oh
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  well actually we got more stuff. You're not that old.
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  You're not that broken. Like, what am I supposed to
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  believe? He's too, after a couple of
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  weeks of being dead, is too injured to keep doing his job.
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  Like, he's got such a grey beard, basically.
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  Yeah. That might be my only complaint
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  is the the uncertainty of Bond's age.
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  Is it too much or is it is it actually fine?
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  I mean, he's only been doing this for six years.
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  You know, Casino Royale was 2006.
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  I don't think he's that old. But you're right.
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  He's got a white beard. He's got all these wrinkles.
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  He's he's aging. But yeah, it so I will agree
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  with you. It's it stands out to me.
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  And there were times while I was listening to them complaining
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  about how old Bond is, where I was like, maybe this should have
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  been Brosnan's, Brosnan's last movie, where he's like, I am too
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  old to be doing this, but I'm going to have one last mission.
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  So it, yeah, I, I don't know about it being a Daniel Craig
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  movie, but then again, it's so freaking good.
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  Has a lot of good parts. I think there's just a little
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  bit of slow down in in some of the parts of the that the three
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  quarter mark of this epic. Now I'm, oh, I don't know if
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  I've got a a joker, so I don't know if I should play it now or
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  if I should hold on to it until the end.
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  True, holding it is fine because we haven't even started until
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  like the intro. Yeah, all right.
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  I think I have to play it because memory is fickle and I
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  might forget my. The thing, the epiphany that I
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  had while watching it right before we recorded is this feels
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  or at least one way you could watch this movie. 1
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  interpretation would be that Javier Bardin's character, I
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  think it's Silva. Is that his name?
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  Yeah, Silva. Yep.
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  He's the The Evil Count of Monte Cristo.
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  Like we are getting a movie from the perspective of the in of the
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  villains of the Count of Monte Cristo.
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  And if we were watching their story, all of a sudden this guy
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  shows up who's like, I'm from your past and I'm gonna get my
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  revenge. I'm gonna wreck it.
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  And. Maybe it's a silly way to think
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  about it, but at the same time I was like, whoa, wow, that's such
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  an interesting way to frame a story to be like, OK, here's a
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  classic. Let's turn it all the way around
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  and look at it from this perspective.
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  Something that is just postulated or did the director
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  writers mention anything like that?
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  I've never seen anyone mention it, it was just something that I
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  thought about, like I could be totally off base.
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  The you got betrayed by your best friend and you spend all
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  this time and money to make their life miserable when you
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  come back to finish the job. And it's like, yeah, that's kind
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  of Monte Cristo. So yeah, I can see it.
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  I think it's the overarching plot is usual for James Bond.
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  Like there's a villain, he has to stop him.
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  He's presumed dead initially. Like I thought it was.
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  It was kind of fun being James is dead again.
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  To the rest of the world. He has an obituary with no
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  picture. Oh yeah, good for M.
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  And MI 6 learned from your past mistakes.
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  Yeah. Oh, that's fantastic.
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  All right, well, let's let's dive in.
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  I can't think of anything else that I'm missing.
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  The only interesting tidbit that I can think of is that Sam
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  Mendes, the director, will be back for the next movie.
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  I don't. I don't know if that speaks to
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  anything because again, I barely know if I saw Spectre when it
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  came out like. I watched maybe half of it.
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  OK, so you're ahead of me. I don't remember anything about
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  it, if I saw it at all. I know I have not seen No Time
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  to Die. That's new for me.
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  So I need to start by saying that sometimes the exception to
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  the rule proves the rule. This first mission is everything
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  about the rest. Of the movie, and yet I love the
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  rest of the movie so much. I'm trying to think of what
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  would be different between this and the next because I feel like
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  this one it does like the hard drive is a plot point of.
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  The rest of the movie. Bond dying doesn't necessarily
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  have like, all of the implications.
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  I mean, it comes. Back I don't.
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  Three times. So it is.
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  It is kind of important. Well, I just don't feel like she
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  later on the cases made the M betrayed bond and bonds like,
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  you know, he's a little bitter about getting shot.
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  It's like. Sure.
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  But like, you're so mission focused, why would you hold it
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  against them to be like, sorry, gotta take the shot like?
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  Yep, no, I, I. To to to make that happen like
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  it's it, it doesn't feel like he'd betrayal later on.
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  It feels like and betrays him yes, like yes later on, but this
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  initial one now like. Yeah.
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  Trying to get the job done. I'm of two minds.
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  I mean, one of the things I love about it is that a lot of these
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  betrayals, because I think Bond is betrayed 2, maybe three times
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  in this movie, but it's meant to really drive home the point that
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  he is different than Mr. Silva. He is a totally different person
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  than the 80s through 90s, a favorite agent, you know.
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  And so I, I do think now I'm going to point out so the, the
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  whole opening mission is a chase scene.
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  It's very frantic. Every part of it I have fun
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  with. Bond gets shot in the chest at
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  one point like this is this looks like he's not going to
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  win. And then as as you pointed out,
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  as they're fighting over this hard drive, M tells his ally,
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  his unnamed ally, who will later be revealed as Eve.
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  I'm not going to say her last name, no.
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  She's not my favorite for that part, but for what she was in
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  and I didn't realize it. Oh, what was she in?
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  So I like, I want to go watch it now, but I, I'm pretty sure her
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  IMDb lists her as the lead opposite Killian Murphy in 28
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  Days Later. And I'm like, Oh yeah.
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  And that's a franchise baby. Yep.
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  Like I kind of see it. I don't remember her very well
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  from the movie, but I should go watch that anyway.
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  That's why I like her. She is okay.
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  Oh my gosh, I okay. My problem with this movie is
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  that the it's going to come back to cancel me one day when I say
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  that both Naomi Harris and Bernice Marlow, both playing
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  even Severin respectfully, are like the two most beautiful
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  women I have ever seen in my life.
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  I was, I was like, where are you going?
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  OK, I understand. And I keep saying that there are
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  times in this franchise where we have gotten to certain Bond
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  girls, whether they truly be a Bond girl or they be a a hench
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  men. But the women in these
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  franchises, and there have been times when I have been blown
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  away at how how beautiful these women are.
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  And that's just what this franchise does.
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  They, they, they're like, who's the most beautiful woman in the
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  world right now? Oh, there's three of them.
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  Let's put them all in this movie.
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  I I mean, yes, objectively, yes. In terms of the the subjects I
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  absolutely love Eve severing. When we get to that plot point,
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  it'll be like, she with her smoky makeup, reminds me of
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  Goldeneyes, a main villain, and but she's just real enough, like
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  fleshed out as a person in this universe.
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  So yeah, I don't love everything about her plot line, but that is
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  a. Very interesting idea though,
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  because I had not thought of that, but it is almost the same
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  concept, just like what if you tilt the picture just a little
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  bit so it's got slightly different lighting.
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  Yeah, then it's. Different slightly different
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  character but yeah. But the Smokey eyes made it like
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  oh she looks like what's her face?
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  I can't even remember her villain name.
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  Are you talking pussy galore? No Goldeneye.
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  Goldeneye. Oh, that's right.
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  I've kept hearing Goldfinger and so I was thinking plot point of
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  that. Oh, no, yeah.
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  Goldeneye. I can only think on a teen grey.
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  Yeah, Jean Grey. Yeah, yes, it was on a top that
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  that was her last name. Her her makeup and stuff.
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  If she wasn't, she didn't try to go Bond.
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  So I appreciate, yes, objectively beautiful.
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  I feel like Bond kind of goes after and it's like, well, this
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  feels a little icky so. That's why I was thinking you
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  were talking Goldfinger, because I was like, yeah, you change it
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  just a little bit and suddenly it's OK.
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  But it really does feel pretty similar.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after Bond is killed, we cut
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  to M in London and she's you know, the storm begins and we
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  get the opening title credit which is Skyfall by Adele.
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  And this might be my third favorite Bond opening song
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  behind fourth favorite song. OK, 4th my top 4th overall and I
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  will give you my top three at #1 Oh my God can't believe it.
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  I shouldn't I, because I wanted to write this down and I knew I
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  should have written it down. And now I'm sitting here like,
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  Oh no, just. Sing part of it, I don't know.
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  Well, Goldfinger has a song. I don't think I can do this as a
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  ranked list. Nope, it's.
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  Not going to be the three that you like more.
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  OK. The end credit song for that
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  Pierce Brosnan movie Tomorrow Never Dies by KD Lang is up
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  there as like #1 but it's an end credit song so it doesn't count
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  as one of these opening credit theme songs.
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  We can't put it on the list. You only live twice is up there.
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  I hate the movie so much but I love the John McCarthy.
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  Or is it John McCarthy? Paul McCartney?
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  Thank you the Paul McCartney and the Wings song You only live.
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  Twice. Yeah, Good.
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  And I think it is Goldfinger. I'm looking at the rest of these
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  I'd have to go through my liked songs to see, but I think it is
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  Goldfinger. I I find myself humming or
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  singing Goldfinger. Wow, wow wow.
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  Like that gets stuck in my head just regularly.
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  And then Skyfall is another one that just gets stuck in my head
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  at times. I'll just be like at the
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  Skyfall. I think of all of them where
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  they tried to incorporate the title, Skyfall probably hits it
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  as the least awkwardly shoehorned in.
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  It is it? I didn't understand it when I
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  first saw it. And then all the time that they
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  go through and say Skyfall, I'm like, what is that?
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  Yeah, we finally figure it out. I do like finally figuring it
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  out really quick. I need to go back before people
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  start writing emails. Live and let die.
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  That was the Paul McCartney in the wings.
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  Like I said, memory is a fickle thing.
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  Live and let die and love that song.
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  Hate that movie. It's a good live and let die,
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  yeah. It hits every time.
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  I like it. This was such a big deal song
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  too. And I also think about the fact
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  that Adele as a performing artist just fits the vibe of a
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  Bond movie so well. Like she's such a big band
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  singer. Yeah, that's the way, Yeah.
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  Yeah, I can't agree with that. I think intro was kind of a
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  little bit more back to other bonds.
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  There's the most of the sections are fine, the black and white
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  women kind of confusing, like we end with the skull, which they
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  kind of use in the tech pieces in this.
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  I was kind of trying to like, oh, should I go back and watch
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  this to see does this follow the progression of the story?
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  Because he goes to somewhere. I think there's like one of
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  those dragon costumes or something.
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  And then there's the computer skull face.
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  Like I wasn't sure if it was in order of the movie or if it was
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  just pieces from the movie. Yeah, I genuinely don't know.
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  Now, I'm going to point out from my Count of Monte Cristo thing,
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  and I just pointed out because I forgot to mention it, you were
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  talking about the tech stuff and the hacking and all that stuff.
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  And that got me thinking like, how did Mr. Silva get all this
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  money to, you know, become a hacker and all this somehow?
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  Yeah. And then I realized he sold the
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  list like he got it decrypted and he sold it and he like, so
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  he's been collecting money for a long, long time.
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  And this is just his latest caper in order to finalize his
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  plan of revenge. But but yeah, he's been doing
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  his his growth phases of collecting money and all that in
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  the background for a long, long time.
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  But anyway, with any, not with any background organization
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  completely unaffiliated. Oh goodness, man, I just want to
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  talk about him so much. He's such a fascinating
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  character. But I'm also sitting here
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  thinking like they're they're so vague.
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  When he talks about where he came from, he only says they
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  tortured me. He didn't.
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  And him is the one who tells us it was China, but he never says
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  it was China. He just said is it it was they
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  who tortured him. So I kept thinking like, I bet
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  it was Spectre. I bet Spectre turned him.
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  Could have him. Or I mean quantum, sorry.
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  I guess I wonder if they do. I don't remember them
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  referencing him but they may in the next movie I wonder.
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  Yeah, it's it's one of those things where if it comes up, I
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  might be like tee hee hee, but at the same time I will kind of
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  feel cheapened by it because I feel like Mr. Silva is such a.
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  Wonderful. Yeah.
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  And him just showing up out of nowhere on a revenge mission.
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  Yeah. It's so fascinating and
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  interesting and I love it so much.
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  But, you know, once we've had our opening credits that I
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  liked, I, I, I don't know if I could give it a score yet.
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  I think I might have to watch these together.
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  I don't like. Yes, it is titillating, but I
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  don't think it's as titillating as other ones have been.
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  I just didn't enjoy the, like, I don't know what you would call
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  it, the title choreography of like, it's like a kaleidoscope.
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  And it doesn't. It doesn't convey much to me.
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  Yeah. It's smoke and shadows, which
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  like, like that feels like a man with a golden gun.
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  Here's my gymnasium of mirrors. Yeah.
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  I can play so I. Can see that.
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  I yeah, I thought with the smoke and stuff they were trying to, I
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  forget the name of them, but the inkblot tests, they were named
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  after someone. I kind of saw that.
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  But then when you mentioned the kaleidoscope, I was like, Oh
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  yeah, why did they have kaleidoscope?
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  It just, it just kind of feels like that feel of it.
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  It matches in all the quadrants. So yeah, it's just a typically
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  symmetrical and 10 seconds of intro.
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  I think it doesn't signify much other than.
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  There are some odd choices in imagery that I'll agree to.
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  Like they show ruins at one point.
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  I think that I and I was always like, what is that?
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  Is that in reference to something or?
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  You know, this is so strange because I'm thinking about, I
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  think it was a view to a kill that the opening credits were
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  like an acid trip and like we just kept cutting to different
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  images and like now they're skiing and now lasers and now
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  there's black light and I. Think yeah.
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  This is so close to that, and yet it's so polished that I can
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  totally. Forgive if you have a drink to
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  help you, just just settle in and eat your popcorn.
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  Yeah, have a good time. Like Bond's dead.
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  Let's we got a whole movie. Like if they stayed dead for a
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  little bit longer. Yeah, hold on.
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  When is Bond going to show up? Twist.
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to remember.
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  When we kind of came over the actual intro, which isn't like
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  we don't have to go revisit, but some of my criticisms in this
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  will be watching it on a smaller screen.
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  The CGI has not aged as great. Bond on the motorcycle on the
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  rooftop just feels so cut into it.
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  The bomb at MI6 makes sense. You can't blow up the actual
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  building. Yeah, but.
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  The scorpion on his hand when he's drinking in the bar.
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  They tried, I think it looks all right, but it has not aged
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  perfectly I'd say. I'll admit we're in a period
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  where I have become a lot more forgiving of CG because, OK, I
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  think it was in the trailer footage, so hopefully I'm not
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  giving too much away. But I went and saw a Fantastic
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  Four and there's one point where they're driving the Fantastic
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  car and they make this quick turn and brake and Sue storm
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  starts stepping out and it's just like one or two frames.
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  It's not even that noticeable, but it's just like this awkward
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  transition of her getting onto the street and the but it
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  looking like she's still seated. So she should be moving with the
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  car and she's not. And so like it, you know, and
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  yet like I barely, I only barely caught it and everything, the
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  whole movie is CG and I don't even think about it.
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  I'm just like, I'm let me live in that world for a while.
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  And I, I did the same with this one.
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  Like even with some of the dated CGI was like, OK, he's got a,
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  he's got a scorpion on his hand. I believe it.
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  That one I think looked a little bit better the the movement on
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  the motorcycle. Didn't.
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  Match. So yeah, anyway we can jump to
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  the after intro. Yeah, because really there's,
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  it's really just an action sequence for the true opening,
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  and it's so much fun. It is directly related to the
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  rest of the story. And yet it's also not because we
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  don't know how long Bond is gone.
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  Like, we come back for the funeral and then life continues
• 27:18
  as normal until terrorism happens.
• 27:22
  And when we see Bond, we don't know how long he's been hanging
• 27:26
  out on the beach, you know, getting drunk and just living
• 27:29
  his life. Like, time has passed.
• 27:34
  Yep. Could have been months, could
• 27:36
  have been days, could have been hours.
• 27:38
  Like we don't know how much time has passed except that it's
• 27:42
  enough time for everyone to believe that Bond is dead and
• 27:46
  for Bond to grow a beard like. Whatever the what it's really
• 27:52
  called the minimum in their policies to be like, all right,
• 27:56
  he's Mia. So now he did get shot, so we're
• 28:01
  assuming he's dead. Nobody recovered, but he is
• 28:05
  presumed dead. So yeah, then we we're following
• 28:13
  what's going on in MI 6 where someone is trying to get into
• 28:19
  that hard drive. This is what makes me think it
• 28:21
  could be a short period of time. But then the fact that Bond is
• 28:25
  like lazing about and has kind of created a small life for him
• 28:30
  himself, wherever he is. That makes me think it could be
• 28:34
  like a few weeks maybe. Like, I don't know how long it
• 28:38
  takes to deliver a hard drive, but yeah.
• 28:43
  That you could maybe figure out something based on where he was,
• 28:49
  which is dry and humid. And then however it is in London
• 28:54
  when he comes back. Because I think it's just, I
• 28:56
  mean, yes, cold and grey. But I think you could probably
• 28:59
  get a sense of a season because then they leave at the end and
• 29:03
  it maybe they just go up to the mountains, but it feels like
• 29:06
  winter. Yeah, unfortunately, it is not
• 29:10
  winter. I can't assure you.
• 29:12
  I watched it again because I was like, it is so foggy.
• 29:15
  And then I realized there's no snow on the ground, like, but it
• 29:19
  might be winter because there's a frozen lake.
• 29:22
  So I don't know. This place goes all over.
• 29:26
  Yeah. There's a frozen lake that
• 29:30
  somehow the exit from the building goes around because of
• 29:36
  the old guy and M or by the other whatever.
• 29:41
  I kind of lost track of where this the the tunnel was supposed
• 29:45
  to go, but there's a lake that Bond is on.
• 29:50
  I I got the impression that it's two hours.
• 29:53
  Yeah, we got to, we got to, we got to get back on track.
• 29:55
  We are so off. Anyway, someone is trying to
• 29:58
  hack into the hard drive. M is, you know, she's got her
• 30:03
  best office, people on the job, including her, her number two
• 30:10
  person whose name I always forget in this movie.
• 30:14
  Tanner. Yeah.
• 30:15
  Thank you. He gets a little bit of
• 30:17
  characterization in this one. Oh yeah, he's all over this
• 30:21
  movie and he's trying to look the action part and I never buy
• 30:25
  it for even one second. There's there's a moment where
• 30:30
  he's he's staring into the camera and it I think he wants
• 30:34
  to look intimidating and I think he looks bored.
• 30:38
  And I'm just like, oh boy, the the British stare.
• 30:42
  It's not as scary as they think it is.
• 30:46
  It's just a little bit bored. Anyway, Tanner is with him and
• 30:52
  they find out that someone is trying to decrypt the drive.
• 30:56
  They try to counter hack them and then much like Goldeneye
• 31:01
  with the spike, the hackers counter counter hack.
• 31:07
  Hack it. Yeah, it's all that computer
• 31:10
  mumbo jumbo that the kids are into, but nonetheless, some cops
• 31:15
  pull over M for some reason. She gets out of the car to yell
• 31:20
  at the cops for pulling over a government vehicle because she's
• 31:24
  above the law, and then her building explodes.
• 31:29
  It was a good introduction to say, well, M by this time
• 31:34
  definitely has skeletons in her closet and it's OK.
• 31:40
  So that's it feels like, OK, this is the point MMM is going
• 31:45
  to be under attack. But I think eventually it feels
• 31:50
  like you realize the bad guy knew that she wouldn't be at her
• 31:56
  desk where he was hacking, routing his traffic through
• 32:00
  whatever so she can. See conflicted on that.
• 32:04
  Yeah. Yeah, I think because he chose
• 32:08
  her desk, I think that he might have thought that he was going
• 32:13
  to kill her. Like I I think in his head he
• 32:16
  was like, I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it here.
• 32:18
  But he had these. I get a lot of Joker vibes from
• 32:22
  him. So I get these like, if that
• 32:26
  fails, then here's the contingency.
• 32:28
  And if the contingency fails, here's another contingency.
• 32:32
  And so he's got a very long game of chess planned out, all the
• 32:38
  way down to the last fine detail.
• 32:41
  But any point in his plan, he might accidentally succeed and
• 32:48
  get it done. Various options maybe.
• 32:53
  Yeah, OK. I mean, I can see that because
• 32:56
  then I think they say on M side they think that's why.
• 33:00
  So it's never confirmed by Silva that he didn't want to kill her
• 33:06
  at that moment. Yeah, when he loses his mind,
• 33:10
  then he's going to become very protective of her.
• 33:13
  But yeah, when we first meet him, he's got some semblance of
• 33:18
  sanity and he seems to be thinking that he's got
• 33:22
  everything in control. And it's only when when he comes
• 33:25
  face to face with him that that he starts to fall apart, even
• 33:30
  though he's still got a really great plan.
• 33:32
  It's just he's starting to lose his mind now that he has seen
• 33:36
  the person he has been planning his revenge against for so long,
• 33:40
  which again points to The Count of Monte Cristo.
• 33:43
  There's a point where he almost fails because he wants to jump
• 33:47
  the gun. And he, Silva, is much like
• 33:54
  Vesper in that he does not show up until about an hour into the
• 33:58
  movie. Yeah, he's isn't awful, but
• 34:01
  yeah. This is what's so crazy to me.
• 34:04
  He is so impactful to this movie and such a great villain, and we
• 34:12
  don't see him until halfway through.
• 34:15
  He's the beginning of this movie is a mystery.
• 34:18
  You know, this is all MI 6 trying to figure it out.
• 34:22
  Yeah, exactly. So Bond hears the news of the
• 34:27
  attack and decides to come back home.
• 34:30
  But he is in rough shape. Like, I don't know if a shave in
• 34:35
  a shower is going to be enough to clean up this guy.
• 34:39
  He is out of Commission and proves it by taking a a terrible
• 34:46
  physical test. Yeah, he collapses by the end of
• 34:50
  it. Yeah.
• 34:52
  Interesting It is what? How long should it have been for
• 34:58
  him to be that out of shape? Like exactly Yes, he did get
• 35:03
  shot. Yes, he still has shrapnel in
• 35:05
  that spot, but like his heart didn't get hit by a shrapnel
• 35:10
  like. Yeah, I don't know.
• 35:13
  He and as the second thing is, the first bullet hits him in the
• 35:16
  shoulders chest. Where in the world does the
• 35:19
  second one hit? We never know.
• 35:22
  Yeah, and I don't think we ever see the scar for it, because
• 35:25
  they make a big deal about the scar that Patrice gave him
• 35:29
  because that's the one he has to cut open to get the shards out
• 35:32
  of. That's going to start his weed.
• 35:35
  And frankly, it's going to start his healing process.
• 35:39
  He needed he needed to get rid of the shards.
• 35:41
  Regards to actually. Healing, sure, yes I'm sure MI 6
• 35:47
  probably could have helped him out a little bit easier with
• 35:50
  that. Well, and this is where a lot of
• 35:55
  people start making a big deal about Bond's age, in particular
• 35:59
  M and Mallory. Mallory in particular is very
• 36:05
  bent out of shape about how old M or Double O 7 is.
• 36:11
  And M is like, look, he failed, but we're going to put him out
• 36:14
  there because I'm just as stubborn as he is and Dang it,
• 36:19
  we're putting him out there. This is the part of the movie
• 36:22
  that annoys me the most. Just this whole opening of like,
• 36:27
  gosh Bond, look how old you are. But nobody will tell him so that
• 36:34
  Silva can tell him that they all know you're you're too old to be
• 36:38
  doing this. And that's a betrayal.
• 36:41
  Hey, yeah, I can agree. It only serves the purpose for
• 36:47
  Silva to use later. I guess.
• 36:50
  And it is a good revelation because it shows, you know,
• 36:55
  Silva, God, I want to get to him so bad because he's such a
• 36:59
  fascinating character. But what I will say about him is
• 37:02
  that he thinks he is Bond's equal.
• 37:06
  And by the end of this movie, we are going to learn that he is
• 37:08
  not at all. But you know, we're getting
• 37:13
  ahead of ourselves. We haven't even come close to
• 37:15
  meeting the guy. We're still figuring out how on
• 37:19
  earth someone was able to bomb MI 6 in London.
• 37:24
  MI 6 has to have this underground facility.
• 37:28
  It's bare bones. Bond can really only be there
• 37:31
  for his physical test. He he has to meet his
• 37:34
  quartermaster, but he's not going to meet his quartermaster
• 37:37
  there. Like you got to get out of here.
• 37:39
  There's not enough space to have extra people in the room.
• 37:44
  The. Queue equipment, yeah, I can see
• 37:47
  as a logical in universe explanation he gets to meet
• 37:52
  Queue at a museum, but that's just such a nice small vignette
• 37:58
  of all bond and Queue get to address the youth and old theme
• 38:05
  I guess of this whole thing. Yeah, it's kind of the reverse
• 38:08
  of. Old queue.
• 38:11
  Literally old Qi mean. Maybe, maybe there's something
• 38:15
  to be said that the deal the movie deals with like mortality
• 38:20
  because of retirement and youth and Q.
• 38:26
  Oh yeah, like I think this by the end of this movie I am fully
• 38:31
  on board and you guys are going to hear just how on board with
• 38:34
  it I am. But in like real world me
• 38:39
  watching this movie, I keep thinking like this dude hasn't
• 38:44
  even been Bond for a decade yet. Like let the guy cook.
• 38:49
  Like come on, like we're already retiring him.
• 38:53
  So like that was my nuisance. But the the overall themes of
• 38:58
  the story and the plot are so perfect.
• 39:03
  And if they really were thinking after Quantum of Solace
• 39:08
  relatively bombed compared to Casino Royale, if they really
• 39:13
  were thinking maybe it's time to put Bond away for a decade or
• 39:17
  so, this would have been a wonderful swan song for the
• 39:21
  franchise. But then it did gangbusters.
• 39:27
  They're like. Billion.
• 39:31
  Like we got to keep making these another billion.
• 39:37
  So I'm, I'm fine with what they were going for and, you know,
• 39:41
  living with it at the time and just frankly, a good story is a
• 39:47
  good story. And I'm already into this story
• 39:51
  and I do really like our new cue.
• 39:55
  I'm I think their introduction where they're teasing each other
• 39:59
  and a little bit antagonistic towards each other.
• 40:02
  I I don't need it. Especially because in the next
• 40:05
  scenes he shines so brightly, but at the same time we got to
• 40:11
  meet him at some point and why not meet him now and.
• 40:15
  A nice set up meet where it's not introduced on purpose so
• 40:23
  their banter is fun and it's like sparring and they get to
• 40:32
  size each other up in that. Q is smart but he's not a field
• 40:38
  agent. It feels a little like the
• 40:40
  Mission Impossible Benji character in Tom Cruise, whereas
• 40:46
  his tech guy is very silly and comical.
• 40:49
  Q. The new Q is young and smart and
• 40:56
  concedes the fact knows enough that he's not going to be
• 40:59
  someone that pulls the trigger. So we need Bond or someone.
• 41:05
  It does feel like he is somewhat dismissive of needing someone to
• 41:10
  be the hit man, but it feels like Bond helps him understand
• 41:17
  and be like, well someone needs to.
• 41:19
  It can't just be tech. People and on top of that we
• 41:24
  only get 2 pieces of tech for this movie we get.
• 41:29
  A gun. Yep, and the latest thing from Q
• 41:32
  Branch, A radio reminiscent of the old Goldfinger.
• 41:39
  Was the Goldfinger, Yeah. So that was when he had the 2
• 41:43
  radio trackers, one that was magnetized to go on a car, and
• 41:48
  then one that was shoe sized to go in his boots so that he could
• 41:51
  be completely ignored by the CIA.
• 41:54
  Thanks, Felix. Don't worry about it.
• 41:59
  Don't crack me. He's just hanging out with a
• 42:01
  pretty Dame. Oh God, that movie.
• 42:06
  But you know, it's, it's not the exact same design, but it, it's
• 42:10
  harkening back. And a lot of this stuff in this
• 42:12
  movie is going to harken back because we're 50 years old now.
• 42:17
  Like, this franchise has been around for half a century.
• 42:20
  So why not have a couple of subtle throwbacks to the
• 42:24
  franchise, beginning with a brand new Walter PPK and a small
• 42:29
  radio. And I like it.
• 42:32
  I'm good with it. Compared to our 40th anniversary
• 42:36
  where it was, oh gosh, how did I forget what?
• 42:40
  It was 2000. Two Yeah, die another day with
• 42:43
  the the windsurfing and. Oh yeah, yeah, I think they
• 42:52
  they, the windsurfing feels like the grand scale of Bond can do
• 42:58
  anything. And this one is.
• 43:01
  I feel like they became less concerned with him being able to
• 43:06
  windsurf on an iceberg caused wave and more trying to keep it
• 43:16
  around the plot. Like he.
• 43:18
  Doesn't need to do super cool stuff, but if he gets into a
• 43:24
  subway train coming after him situation he'll survive it
• 43:27
  whereas it's believable that somebody else might not.
• 43:31
  Yeah, yeah. I also feel like a lot of this
• 43:34
  movie kind of tells us that Bond can still be pretty incredible
• 43:42
  without being over the top and you know, where Tomorrow or Not
• 43:49
  tomorrow never dies. I've already forgotten the name
• 43:52
  of that stupid movie Die Another Day where that movie just kept
• 43:57
  trying to be like and more and more and also throwback and
• 44:01
  throwback. This one feels more planned.
• 44:05
  It almost feels like the 50th anniversary was more of a
• 44:08
  coincidence. Like they had already made or
• 44:11
  planned to make a really good movie and then they were like,
• 44:14
  oh by the way the franchise is 50 years old.
• 44:17
  He let's just throw in like 3 references and then we'll be
• 44:21
  good. Like that's it, You didn't.
• 44:23
  You mentioned if this was based on any books.
• 44:26
  It is not the only one in the Daniel Craig era that is based
• 44:32
  on a book is Casino Royale. OK, that was it.
• 44:37
  And that was? Our I can see it being a reason
• 44:40
  because the books were in a different time period and Bond
• 44:44
  is now in the twenty 20s or something.
• 44:47
  Well, twenty 10's and it's definitely the age of Anonymous
• 44:52
  and hackers and all that stuff. I mean, the Sony breach
• 44:56
  happened. Wasn't that like 20-11?
• 44:59
  Maybe 2010 no. Idea.
• 45:01
  I did not care that much about it.
• 45:03
  Oh, I did. I was on PS3 at the time because
• 45:07
  that, you know, it was the PS3 days and we were offline I think
• 45:12
  for close to six months. And I didn't have a gaming
• 45:16
  computer. I didn't have anything like that
• 45:19
  Like, and admittedly PlayStation Network at that time was free.
• 45:24
  So you didn't, you weren't paying for anything.
• 45:26
  You were just losing access to playing online.
• 45:30
  So I could play all of my single player games, but like, I
• 45:33
  couldn't play Call of Duty with my friends.
• 45:39
  Yeah. So hackers are a big deal at
• 45:41
  this time. And I don't think they would
• 45:42
  have even been a consideration for Ian Fleming.
• 45:47
  But I think it would have been right down Ian Fleming's alley.
• 45:52
  I think he would have loved it, you know?
• 45:55
  Yeah, I agree. So yeah, so they're blah, blah,
• 46:00
  blah is where we are with that. We made it to the underground
• 46:05
  layer. We made it through bond.
• 46:07
  Failing is physical. We made it to the queue and
• 46:11
  queue gives them a ticket, ticket to Shanghai.
• 46:14
  Shanghai. So we do have goes there.
• 46:18
  Oh, wait. Oh, yeah, I was trying to like
• 46:21
  Shanghai is not the gambling place.
• 46:23
  Not yeah, is where Patrice is exactly.
• 46:27
  Makes me think of How I Met your mother, the Patrice in there.
• 46:31
  Patrice. This.
• 46:33
  Stunt actor looks so familiar. I think he's a stunt actor.
• 46:39
  Maybe he's a real. He doesn't have any lines, so
• 46:42
  it's possible I mean. Yeah, but he's in so much of the
• 46:45
  movie. He's such a big deal as a
• 46:48
  character. Ola Rapaci.
• 46:52
  Let me log him up real fast. Yeah.
• 46:55
  Like, he's only been in a few movies.
• 46:59
  He's not really. He is an actor.
• 47:01
  So he's not a, you know, a stunt person, as I had thought.
• 47:05
  But he's also, or he was until 2011.
• 47:08
  He was related to Nuumi Rapaci, who I think is incredible.
• 47:15
  The one lady, yeah, I didn't know that's how you said her
• 47:18
  name. I think that's how you say it.
• 47:21
  I've never heard any interviews of who how you say her name.
• 47:25
  I could be totally wrong. No, no.
• 47:28
  No, I've never heard it, so I don't know.
• 47:30
  And I don't want to look it up like I just assumed.
• 47:35
  I was just sitting here thinking that's how it could be totally
• 47:38
  wrong. So anyway, he so he is an actor.
• 47:41
  He's not a stuntman. I don't think he speaks in this
• 47:43
  movie. It could be because he doesn't
• 47:45
  speak any English anyway, but he's he looks very good in this
• 47:54
  part. And for, you know, the first
• 47:56
  half of this movie, he's kind of the main villain for Bond.
• 48:02
  And when they come to the the hotel for his mission, like it's
• 48:07
  a pretty intense scene. And then it's.
• 48:09
  Yeah. For me, it's when the movie
• 48:12
  takes a turn. Yeah, I think Bond has some
• 48:15
  good, like, tailing methods while he's trying to follow
• 48:21
  after Patrice. And it's got great tension and
• 48:24
  great lights and like, I don't really care what the other
• 48:28
  Assassin's job is, but it's going to happen.
• 48:32
  Like Bond isn't there to stop that.
• 48:34
  He's there to get this guy. That's so funny.
• 48:41
  Like, okay, well, I'm not in charge of what's going on over
• 48:44
  there, but I need to talk to this guy.
• 48:47
  So you wait until your friend gets off work and then you give
• 48:50
  him a call. He could have, he could have
• 48:54
  stopped him. He could have, you know, kicked
• 48:55
  the gun. He could have tried to take the
• 48:57
  gun, could have started the fight sequence at any moment and
• 49:00
  then some. Dude doesn't have to die.
• 49:03
  We don't know anything about the target, the assassination.
• 49:08
  We only know that there's this gorgeous woman with smoky eyes
• 49:13
  across at another skyscraper and we don't even follow her as a
• 49:20
  lead. It's purely coincidental that we
• 49:23
  see her again at all. Right, yeah, she shows up again.
• 49:28
  I do like that Bond kind of pulls the Batman and disappears
• 49:32
  when she's trying to stare at him.
• 49:33
  It's like so Bond, he does still have something like he.
• 49:38
  Yeah, especially because he mailed with Patrice.
• 49:42
  Like he's holding Patrice with his right hand, 'cause he's
• 49:46
  right-handed. And remember, Patrice shot him
• 49:49
  in the right shoulder. And that's the wound that he's
• 49:52
  still recovering from. It's the reason he can't fully
• 49:55
  hold on to the elevator. He's riding all the way up the
• 49:58
  skyscraper. I had sweaty palms just thinking
• 50:01
  about that elevator ride. I had forgotten so many things
• 50:06
  of I guess I'm glad that they did it, but I didn't remember
• 50:11
  that Bond would have had pain in that arm.
• 50:15
  I thought he just kind of, you know, that arm got tired in
• 50:17
  particular. But that makes sense that that's
• 50:19
  the army got shot in like Oh well, it didn't like make him
• 50:23
  limp with it or anything. So he's he is in recovery and
• 50:27
  it's not going to be an issue anymore in the movie.
• 50:31
  Like, it's frankly, it kind of stopped being an issue once he
• 50:35
  got those bullet shards out of his shoulder.
• 50:40
  That was when the recovery truly began.
• 50:43
  And now he's still too weak to hold Patrice as he dangles from
• 50:49
  the skyscraper. And so Bond's desperately trying
• 50:52
  to be like, tell me who's who you're working for, who hired
• 50:56
  you, who has the list? Tell me anything, 'cause you are
• 50:59
  going to die because I can't hold you anymore and Patrice
• 51:05
  just drops. Yeah, I, I love, I don't know
• 51:11
  why I like it when Bond fails, but when he does it really like,
• 51:15
  it makes me think, wow, like, he is not perfect.
• 51:18
  He's not a superhero. He's a human being who might
• 51:23
  have Domino's superpower of super luck.
• 51:26
  And this version of Bond, if he has a genuine superpower, it is
• 51:33
  reading people, which will come up very soon.
• 51:37
  But for now, you know, he has failed.
• 51:40
  He's watching this gorgeous woman across the way who just
• 51:46
  stood there when a dude got shot.
• 51:47
  So from his perspective, he's like, she's a baddie.
• 51:51
  Yeah, in all the ways. Yeah, man, Twenty 20s slang.
• 51:57
  I know. What a baddie.
• 51:58
  Is. And she's one of them.
• 52:03
  Yeah, not knowing that she reappears, it was like, OK,
• 52:10
  well, he didn't get much information then, but he does
• 52:15
  find a coin in the. Poker chip.
• 52:18
  The Snipe rifle box bag thing. And so he figures out where that
• 52:26
  goes. I can't ref.
• 52:27
  He takes it to Eve to figure that out.
• 52:29
  Or what? He goes back to his hotel
• 52:33
  because because he knows what he's going to do with it.
• 52:36
  Like he he's got it ready to go. But while he was on mission, the
• 52:42
  first five names had been released, and at least one agent
• 52:48
  who was undercover has been killed.
• 52:51
  And it was on the news. So Eve is sent unrelated.
• 52:57
  She is sent to be like, hey, guess what?
• 53:00
  The news is worse. You need to get on this.
• 53:03
  And M is so upset about it that she's sending me to do backup.
• 53:07
  You Remember Me, the person who shot you last time.
• 53:13
  But Eve is awesome. Eve is an amazing character who
• 53:17
  is absolutely ready for field work, and so I'm good with Eve
• 53:22
  being here and it's arguable if they actually sleep together.
• 53:27
  I just wanted to point that out. We don't.
• 53:29
  We don't, Yeah, I don't. Is that where the shaving part
• 53:33
  comes in? Because it's not in the wiki and
• 53:35
  I'm like, I recall this, but yeah, it's.
• 53:39
  It's unclear whether that happens.
• 53:41
  And I mean, the movie doesn't suffer for it.
• 53:44
  But exactly it. Does make it like well later on
• 53:50
  the reveal makes it feel like that could be a reason why
• 53:54
  they're why they would eventually spar with each other
• 53:58
  in in other movies. Or why they would flirt.
• 54:02
  So hard. As they often do.
• 54:05
  Maybe. Maybe they did or maybe they
• 54:08
  didn't. And that's the other thing,
• 54:09
  because it's never explicitly said.
• 54:12
  It allows us, the audience to have that conversation, to be
• 54:16
  like, did they or didn't they Like, what kind of relationship
• 54:20
  do they have? This is a hard reboot.
• 54:23
  This isn't the same. Yeah.
• 54:25
  But she also kind of is like, so yeah, it's how Dang it, I
• 54:32
  revealed. I'm sorry.
• 54:33
  I I might, I might have to bleep every time we say the last name
• 54:37
  Eve. No.
• 54:40
  I haven't yet. So I might have to bleep myself.
• 54:45
  I'll have to find a bleeping sound effect so that I can.
• 54:48
  It was just the the scene just kind of stuck out as they like
• 54:54
  like partial seduction of it felt like strawberry fields
• 55:00
  without it saying yeah, Oh yeah, they actually did do stuff.
• 55:04
  Yeah, no, as we only get she tries to shave his face and.
• 55:10
  And when they go to the casino, it's still night time.
• 55:13
  So I don't think they stayed until morning.
• 55:17
  I think they went immediately that evening.
• 55:21
  So I don't, I don't know. There's a good argument for no.
• 55:24
  There's a good argument for, yes.
• 55:27
  Yeah, but at the casino they're still chatting each other up and
• 55:32
  their banter is fun and light. It's.
• 55:34
  So good it like the. Severing lady again.
• 55:39
  But I I don't want to skip over Eve and Bond banter.
• 55:43
  Like, yes, it is banter, but the way it's shot, and frankly, I'm,
• 55:48
  you know, we kind of glossed over it the, the Shanghai
• 55:54
  skyscraper assassination, the way that was shot.
• 55:57
  There are just some parts that are so.
• 56:00
  Yeah. Like it?
• 56:02
  Is so good. And in this particular one in
• 56:05
  the casino, we are tracking on Bond, but we're listening to a
• 56:11
  conversation between Eve and Bond and in the background Eve
• 56:15
  is walking and talking and being a part of things like, oh, it
• 56:20
  looks so good. And when they cross paths again
• 56:23
  and we go out of walkie-talkie volume to human real life
• 56:29
  volume, I love it. It's gorgeous.
• 56:32
  It's it's incredible. It's a cut above anything this
• 56:37
  franchise has given us in the past.
• 56:38
  Like it's a true work of art. It's a nice little innovation.
• 56:44
  I remember enjoying the two things happening at once in the
• 56:48
  universe, and it sounds like that's about how you.
• 56:54
  That's this is my two things happening at once in the
• 56:56
  universe, innovation, them walking and talking in with one
• 57:01
  of them in the background and one of them in the foreground
• 57:04
  and crossing paths and changing volumes and their sound effects
• 57:08
  like I, my brain exploded. So but yes, fond caches in the
• 57:15
  chip, which is going to kick off the events and Severin is going
• 57:20
  to approach Bond, which is still a little weird to me.
• 57:26
  I'm going to just say it's a little weird.
• 57:28
  Well, she approaches or after he gets the money because.
• 57:34
  After he. Gets the money, yeah, but cash
• 57:37
  is in the chip. Gets the money.
• 57:39
  Then she's like, yeah, guess what?
• 57:41
  Hi. Well, when bond cashes in, the
• 57:45
  chip security is called. We see the security guard who's
• 57:50
  like, ha, ha, ha. We found it.
• 57:52
  And it just turns out Severin is there, like you said, because
• 57:56
  she's curious. And I'm sitting here like for
• 57:59
  later on in the movie thinking, why does she get permission to
• 58:05
  do that? Like, if she's under control,
• 58:10
  how, why? Why were these guys who are
• 58:12
  controlling her be like, yeah, it's a good idea.
• 58:15
  You come with us, we're going to go see.
• 58:18
  Unless she said I saw the guy, I don't know.
• 58:21
  We don't get to see the story from the perspective of The
• 58:24
  Count of Monte Cristo. This time, we're seeing it from
• 58:27
  the other side. Yeah, I think their conversation
• 58:34
  may not be very complex, but it gives them each a chance to talk
• 58:44
  over the villain and motivations on her side.
• 58:49
  Like it's not an awful conversation.
• 58:51
  Maybe I'm the opposite in that I think it's a brilliant
• 58:55
  conversation. I mean.
• 58:58
  As it is not awful. I know and I think it's
• 59:00
  brilliant. I think it's more than not
• 59:02
  awful. I think this is 10 out of 10
• 59:05
  scene like we've always had the the let's talk about the story
• 59:11
  scene so that we can get the audience caught up and we can
• 59:14
  figure out where this story is supposed to go.
• 59:16
  Dang it. Who's the daddy that I'm
• 59:18
  supposed to chase? That's that's been in almost
• 59:21
  every movie and in almost every one of them.
• 59:24
  It's laughable. It's it's so badly done.
• 59:28
  And in this one, it's perfect. It, it's so natural.
• 59:32
  It's so good. And when he shows off his
• 59:37
  superpower of being able to read people and he reveals her whole
• 59:41
  back story and her face just totally shifts, like both of
• 59:48
  them acting against each other. It was perfect.
• 59:52
  It was perfect. It was an awful, I mean it.
• 59:58
  Was. OK, you're.
• 1:00:02
  Killing me. Smalls.
• 1:00:03
  You're killing me. I'll I will justify what I'm
• 1:00:07
  meaning to to convey because it it doesn't aside from like the
• 1:00:16
  back story for her, like she's it doesn't feel like Bond does
• 1:00:25
  like he is looking for her employer, but I don't feel like
• 1:00:33
  he says much to to what would you say to prompt her?
• 1:00:43
  Like she wants him to kill the guy because he reveals her back
• 1:00:49
  story that she's been controlled and and enslaved, I'd say, but
• 1:00:56
  like he killed the one guy accidentally dropped him, shows
• 1:01:01
  up with the money, But I don't I mean, maybe she just goes for
• 1:01:07
  his confidence in that. Yeah, I can kill him.
• 1:01:10
  Somebody ends up dead. It's like you don't sound super
• 1:01:14
  gummy like. I mean, the movie, OK, I'll give
• 1:01:18
  you that. Like we have to allow the movie
• 1:01:22
  to convince us that she really is desperately trying to get out
• 1:01:26
  of this situation. And I'm going to, I'm going to
• 1:01:31
  continue to say it. You know, when we don't get to
• 1:01:33
  see the The Count of Monte Cristo's side of the story, we
• 1:01:38
  don't know what's happening with all of the bad guys.
• 1:01:41
  We only get to see their faces briefly.
• 1:01:44
  So for all we know, Patrice was just as terrified as Severin.
• 1:01:48
  But he's dead. He won't be telling anyone.
• 1:01:52
  And so maybe everyone who works for or with Silva puts on a
• 1:01:58
  brave, scary face because they're scared that they're
• 1:02:02
  going to get murdered at any given moment.
• 1:02:04
  But we don't get to know that. We don't ever get to see his
• 1:02:08
  side of the story because I don't think.
• 1:02:10
  And I, you know, that's me reading into this thing is a
• 1:02:13
  totally different story than maybe it wants to be.
• 1:02:16
  And that might be a good criticism of the movie, but I
• 1:02:20
  love it anyway. Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah. And, you know, she warns them.
• 1:02:27
  She's like, you're going to have another action scene.
• 1:02:29
  It's coming up like. It's coming.
• 1:02:31
  Literally I do 2 minutes. Enjoy the beginning of him
• 1:02:36
  fighting the other guards because it's like, I remember
• 1:02:39
  the first time watching it. It's like, oh I mean he's going
• 1:02:42
  to. It's like, oh, this is
• 1:02:44
  misunderstanding dude. I'm going to set down the case
• 1:02:46
  but then uppercuts the one guy with it.
• 1:02:48
  It's like, oh that would work so well.
• 1:02:51
  And he uses it on as a weapon on all three of them.
• 1:02:55
  Like, he hits all three dudes with that case before the big
• 1:02:59
  dude gets back up and tackles them over the banister, and then
• 1:03:03
  he drops it. One of the the.
• 1:03:06
  Oh, snap. When you misremember something
• 1:03:09
  in history, like it's named after the South African
• 1:03:13
  president who everybody thought was dead.
• 1:03:16
  Mandela. Thank you.
• 1:03:19
  So the Mandela Effect in this movie is people remembering that
• 1:03:24
  the case opened and that money went flying.
• 1:03:27
  Money never goes flying. Yeah, it it gets gently,
• 1:03:34
  relatively gently put down before Bond gets toppled over
• 1:03:40
  the thing. And he has never used his brand
• 1:03:44
  new high tech Q gun to shoot anyone.
• 1:03:48
  He's pointed it at a few people, but now someone else has it and
• 1:03:52
  they realize that they can't use it because they don't have the
• 1:03:55
  right palm print. And then Bond loses that gun
• 1:03:59
  forever. Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  I was like, does he? I feel like he gets another gun
• 1:04:04
  at some point. Every gun he gets is stolen.
• 1:04:08
  He's he his personal gun that Q had said.
• 1:04:12
  Please make sure all of this comes back and one piece is
• 1:04:16
  gone. It's in the belly of a Komodo
• 1:04:18
  dragon. Seems like it's a interesting
• 1:04:23
  little like dragon exhibitor. Whatever, they got all these
• 1:04:28
  candles down there for them. Who likes the candles?
• 1:04:31
  Guys? Come on.
• 1:04:33
  Apparently these things are human eaters I.
• 1:04:37
  My parents. Yeah, I don't know if that is
• 1:04:40
  actually true of Komodo Dragons. I don't think they're like
• 1:04:43
  crocodiles. I don't think they'll go after
• 1:04:45
  anything they see. Yeah, I think they're more like
• 1:04:49
  other lizards, where they mostly just kind of want to sit on a
• 1:04:52
  rock and fake in the sun for a while, and then they'll get up
• 1:04:56
  and eat, maybe like a bird or a small mammal, and then do it
• 1:05:00
  again. So this is not the best exhibit
• 1:05:04
  for any Komodo Dragons. And these ones live in caves,
• 1:05:08
  apparently. Like it's crazy.
• 1:05:13
  It's a set piece to get on to lose his stuff and gamble away
• 1:05:19
  the money. He goes, crawls back up and
• 1:05:21
  tells to oh. You did it too.
• 1:05:24
  It's impossible, isn't it? Tells Eve to put it on red or
• 1:05:32
  black, one of the two. Yeah, Red, Red put it all on red
• 1:05:36
  because I remember thinking of that.
• 1:05:38
  Of course, she doesn't have to. Like, she doesn't know to do
• 1:05:42
  whatever he says. Like technically she has
• 1:05:45
  revealed that she's loyal to Mallory.
• 1:05:48
  Like Mallory, not him necessarily, but Mallory was
• 1:05:52
  like, look, I'm concerned about Bond, get him up to speed.
• 1:05:55
  And so she's in there singing his praises.
• 1:06:00
  I could see her being like, OK, I put it all on red and somehow
• 1:06:06
  won the exact amount of money that I bet.
• 1:06:08
  And I turned it into the Treasury Department because
• 1:06:13
  that's that's the type of person I think Eve would be just from
• 1:06:17
  this little bit of a movie that we get to meet her.
• 1:06:19
  But. I mean, I don't know roulette to
• 1:06:22
  know about if you did just split the money in half and did red
• 1:06:25
  and black, would you make less than you put in?
• 1:06:29
  I think you would get exactly the same.
• 1:06:31
  I think it's an an even payout for red and black.
• 1:06:35
  So betting $1.00 earns you $1.00.
• 1:06:38
  So if you were to bet $2.00, one on red and one on black, you
• 1:06:41
  would get back $2.00 at the end of the day.
• 1:06:45
  And so you would you will have done nothing with your money.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah, roulette is one of those games where like all over the
• 1:06:55
  table, there are different odds and therefore different payouts.
• 1:06:59
  And the biggest payouts are usually related to the
• 1:07:02
  individual numbers. But you can make a bet on odds
• 1:07:06
  and evens. And I think it's similar to the
• 1:07:09
  Reds and blacks where it's like it's a different, it's a 5050
• 1:07:12
  payout, but I think there's more evens than odds.
• 1:07:15
  So it might be, I don't know, I don't do roulette.
• 1:07:18
  It's not a fun game to me. I've heard I prefer to have
• 1:07:20
  cards in my hand, like that's fun to me when it comes to
• 1:07:24
  gambling. Well, she could have kept any
• 1:07:28
  amount of money. Exactly.
• 1:07:29
  We'll never know the rest because Bond is on his way to go
• 1:07:33
  to a boat. I do like that Severin, when one
• 1:07:39
  of the goons comes in to say we're getting ready to leave,
• 1:07:43
  she looks sad, like she gets excited by the knock at the
• 1:07:46
  door. And then of course, it's not
• 1:07:48
  Bond. Like Bond's not going to knock
• 1:07:50
  on the door and reveal himself. He's not and he does not think I
• 1:07:58
  missed the this initial spot where she's waiting.
• 1:08:03
  She's all out of her get up and all of like, I don't know about
• 1:08:07
  all of her makeup, but her face is back to like a normal person.
• 1:08:12
  She's still so gorgeous. Still gorgeous.
• 1:08:14
  So gorgeous, Oh my gosh, So often with the Smokey eyes, like
• 1:08:20
  you're like oh wow, she is hot. And then the Smokey eyes go away
• 1:08:24
  and you're like, oh, what happened?
• 1:08:26
  Well. I think the the, what do you
• 1:08:31
  call it sympathetic feel is she's got she's chilling in like
• 1:08:36
  her what do you call it robe and she's got some champagne or
• 1:08:43
  hopefully something that tastes better and two glasses.
• 1:08:46
  And it's like, well, she was hoping that he'd live.
• 1:08:50
  And he eventually does show up, but only after she's decided to
• 1:08:54
  go take a shower. Shows up at the creepiest time
• 1:08:58
  possible. Yeah, like that.
• 1:09:01
  It could have been cuter if you did show up when she was waiting
• 1:09:05
  for you after the bad guy closes the door.
• 1:09:07
  Like I would have liked that. There's another door that's wide
• 1:09:12
  open and I just keep thinking, oh man, how cute would it be if
• 1:09:15
  Bond had come in through that open door that that we see in
• 1:09:19
  the background, like, and then Bond's there.
• 1:09:21
  But no, he has to do it in the creepiest way possible, like.
• 1:09:26
  Yes, it's. Kind of sexy and blah blah blah
• 1:09:29
  but I agree. Like so creepy.
• 1:09:32
  It would have been better sexy if he had shown up and been
• 1:09:37
  like, I don't know, partially interested, not just for her
• 1:09:42
  employer. I feel like that's the crux of
• 1:09:44
  Bond is he'll show up because you gave him information about
• 1:09:48
  what like you are now giving him a ride to your employer, which
• 1:09:51
  is a bad move on your part, but Bond profits from it, so yeah,
• 1:09:59
  well, it just didn't feel great. At the same time, that's part of
• 1:10:03
  the characterization that we that they want us to have for
• 1:10:07
  the character of Bond is that he is not a good person, especially
• 1:10:12
  with women and especially after Vesper.
• 1:10:16
  Like, that's the other thing with Daniel Craig as Bond, his
• 1:10:22
  love of his life was killed and that was supposed to break
• 1:10:26
  something in him as a character and then, you know, broke in
• 1:10:31
  some ways that are a little creepy and gross and in other
• 1:10:34
  ways that are super awesome and action.
• 1:10:38
  Y Yeah. So I can give you that.
• 1:10:42
  Yeah. So they they're they're, they're
• 1:10:45
  in a shower together and then. And then he gets the top of the
• 1:10:48
  boat. Yeah, like, he goes out to the
• 1:10:51
  front of the boat for all the baddies to see.
• 1:10:54
  They've all got their guns trained on him.
• 1:10:56
  And he's just like, oh, by the way, I'm here too.
• 1:10:59
  Seems like you snuck in, but then also seems like you don't
• 1:11:03
  care if they know that you snuck on.
• 1:11:06
  So they make it to the island and they're both still
• 1:11:09
  handcuffed. And so they get LED different
• 1:11:11
  ways and it's like. But we do gotta point out that
• 1:11:14
  Bond did turn on his tracker like he was good enough to be
• 1:11:18
  like, now I'm. I might die.
• 1:11:22
  Yeah, like this might be the end of me.
• 1:11:25
  I'm gonna turn on the tracker so that I will have backup coming.
• 1:11:30
  And that backup is going to be way better than Felix Leiter of
• 1:11:33
  the CIA, thankfully. But yeah, they get caught and
• 1:11:36
  immediately tied up and immediately brought in different
• 1:11:40
  directions. And the whole time Severin is
• 1:11:42
  just revealing as much information as she can, which is
• 1:11:46
  not much, but like she's like, I know I'm caught, I know you're
• 1:11:50
  caught, but you said that people usually die when you're around.
• 1:11:55
  So I guess I'll just tell you everything I can before we're.
• 1:11:57
  I'll die. Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Like, yeah, I mean we I think from them talking, which you
• 1:12:07
  give a 10 out of 10 to meeting Silva is probably one of the
• 1:12:11
  lesser parts of the movie. The Silva and Bond is great, but
• 1:12:17
  between the Severin and Bond and Silva and Bond is.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah, yeah, all agree. With position and a bridge.
• 1:12:26
  Yeah, like it's an interesting scene.
• 1:12:29
  It's not my favorite, and it's not my favorite because we've
• 1:12:32
  just had Bond and Severin with a really incredible talk in the
• 1:12:36
  bar, that kind of fun action scene, very creepy lovemaking
• 1:12:41
  scene. And then this incredible
• 1:12:45
  monologue and followed up by dialogue where Raul Silva steps
• 1:12:52
  from an elevator and the whole time he's walking, he's telling
• 1:12:56
  us the story of what to do when you have rats on an island.
• 1:13:00
  And it's, it's this long story about, you know, using coconuts
• 1:13:05
  as bait and putting it on a hinged lid.
• 1:13:07
  And then as the rats come in for the coconuts, they fall and get
• 1:13:10
  trapped and oh. It it builds.
• 1:13:14
  So at least to me, it seemed like it built so innocently,
• 1:13:19
  like, oh, collecting the rats and the rats, somebody's going
• 1:13:23
  to pick them up and we're going to kill the rats.
• 1:13:25
  And then it turns and it's like, oh, so the rats kill each other
• 1:13:29
  because they're starving. And at the end, there's two.
• 1:13:34
  And now you have rats that like to kill rats.
• 1:13:36
  And it's like, is that true? I don't care.
• 1:13:39
  It sounds terrifying. Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  It's so brutal that like, I'm with you, I don't care if it's
• 1:13:48
  real. It is such a good story that I'm
• 1:13:52
  just like, wow. And it becomes the story of
• 1:13:57
  Silva versus Bond in Silva's eyes.
• 1:14:00
  He's always like, we are the last two rats and we're going to
• 1:14:04
  have to figure out if we're going to eat each other and
• 1:14:07
  continue eating other rats or are we going to turn on the
• 1:14:11
  farmer. He just wanted to find a friend.
• 1:14:14
  He got betrayed and he's like, all right, I'm going to do this
• 1:14:16
  now. He's like, oh wait, Bond got
• 1:14:18
  betrayed. Do you think you think we could
• 1:14:21
  start a bowling league, Silva? He obsesses over Bond, but he
• 1:14:28
  doesn't know everything about Bond, and that's one of the
• 1:14:32
  things that I love about this character.
• 1:14:34
  So he's dyed his hair and eyebrows blonde because he wants
• 1:14:40
  to be more like our blonde James Bond.
• 1:14:44
  I didn't get that at all, but I see it.
• 1:14:46
  He's it's a really bad dye job and and he knows everything
• 1:14:51
  about Bond's history. He thinks he knows everything
• 1:14:53
  about Bond's history. He certainly knows that Bond
• 1:14:56
  failed his medical exam. So he knows everything that's on
• 1:15:02
  record at MI 6, which is not everything, but Silva thinks he
• 1:15:08
  knows everything about Double O 7, and he knows that Double O 7
• 1:15:14
  is very straight. And so when Silva tries to make
• 1:15:18
  him uncomfortable by trying to seduce him, Bond just sits there
• 1:15:21
  calmly and says, who says it's my first time?
• 1:15:24
  Like, let's go, baby, get this rope off of me.
• 1:15:28
  I'll bang you like I bang everyone and then I'll kill you
• 1:15:30
  anyway. Like, yeah, that was like, what
• 1:15:38
  exactly is going on here? But then, like, Bond manages to
• 1:15:43
  essentially diffuse that attempt at interrogation.
• 1:15:47
  Like, it's like, I'm not other than turning Bond.
• 1:15:52
  Like, what are you trying to get from Bond?
• 1:15:55
  Like you. I, I genuinely think that's it,
• 1:15:59
  I think. Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Silva's first flaw in his plan is believing that he can turn
• 1:16:07
  double O 7, thinking that he is an equal to double O 7.
• 1:16:12
  And so when he goes outside to show off how in how evil he is
• 1:16:17
  by killing Severin and then Bond murders all of his hench men
• 1:16:23
  right in front of him so quickly and so spectacularly.
• 1:16:28
  I don't love Severin's death. I don't love that she doesn't
• 1:16:31
  fall. She just stands there dead.
• 1:16:36
  I frankly, I don't love that she dies at all.
• 1:16:38
  I think she's such an interesting character that it
• 1:16:41
  kind of makes me mad that this is the end of her.
• 1:16:45
  Is so unceremonious like she she was cooler than the last two
• 1:16:54
  beats of her story so I can't remember.
• 1:17:00
  There was another villain lady that died.
• 1:17:03
  It was Tomorrow Never dies because it was the one where you
• 1:17:07
  kept calling him Tim Apple and he sent his wife to go seduce
• 1:17:11
  Bond and then immediately killed his wife but she dies.
• 1:17:16
  Maybe not that one, but the earlier one where she was a good
• 1:17:20
  villain. Vulpa I.
• 1:17:23
  Think vulpa because. Vulpa was like a legit great
• 1:17:27
  villain in Thunderball who I genuinely loved.
• 1:17:30
  Bond gets away and then they're dancing in the club and Bond
• 1:17:35
  like turns her body so that she takes a bullet for him.
• 1:17:40
  So she also doesn't make it to the end of the movie.
• 1:17:42
  But she was a legit good villain.
• 1:17:44
  Should have been the main villain.
• 1:17:46
  I'm going to, you know, that'll be the hill I die on.
• 1:17:49
  Still love Vulpa. I want a remake of Thunderball
• 1:17:53
  with Vulpa as the main villain. But nonetheless, Silva has been
• 1:18:01
  captured, and as I mentioned before, he's kind of got this
• 1:18:05
  Joker thing going on where he's got contingency after
• 1:18:09
  contingency. His first failed plan was to
• 1:18:11
  blow up M inside of MI 6. He had a contingency where he
• 1:18:16
  was going to turn double O 7. At least that's what I'm
• 1:18:20
  presuming he had in his head or this was a legitimate surprise
• 1:18:24
  to him. And now that he's captured, he
• 1:18:27
  doesn't know what to do. Except he does because he has
• 1:18:30
  another contingency plan for if he gets captured, what to do
• 1:18:36
  next. And yeah, that's to show off
• 1:18:42
  some freaky CGI with his face. I'll say of all the complaints I
• 1:18:48
  have about CGII didn't disapprove of that one.
• 1:18:53
  It felt off putting but it didn't feel like obviously fake
• 1:18:59
  but it didn't feel super. Fake.
• 1:19:02
  I'm with you there. Because he takes so like I don't
• 1:19:05
  know if you he described it, he talks about breaking a cyanide
• 1:19:09
  capsule in it just annihilating his insides, but.
• 1:19:12
  But not fully worth not. Actually killing him.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah. Where?
• 1:19:16
  So he takes out this prosthetic like crowns out of his.
• 1:19:20
  Teeth yeah, almost looks like a denture, but it's more than a
• 1:19:24
  denture like because it's got a false cheek on it as well like
• 1:19:29
  yeah and then yeah it's it's a fully CG slumping of his face,
• 1:19:34
  but it looks so good like. Yeah, it does.
• 1:19:40
  If they spent all the time on that, they made it good for
• 1:19:44
  years into the future. Like, we know it's CG.
• 1:19:47
  We're, you know, we're smart enough to know.
• 1:19:49
  That doesn't change the fact that it's grotesque and horrible
• 1:19:53
  to look at and really drives home the point that this man has
• 1:19:58
  been driven by revenge. Because he, you know, he
• 1:20:03
  probably also blames her for the fact that his cyanide pill was a
• 1:20:07
  dud, relatively speaking. It did damage, but it didn't
• 1:20:11
  kill him. And he's had to live his whole
• 1:20:13
  life knowing that the one thing that was supposed to take all
• 1:20:17
  the pain away just created more. Yeah, it well, once Silva is
• 1:20:27
  captured, it does. He does get a little bit of like
• 1:20:29
  a Joker laugh in one point, but that feels like he knows his
• 1:20:33
  contingency is going to work. He gets stretching and ready to
• 1:20:37
  run out of his cell once his hard drive decrypts and does
• 1:20:44
  something. Hackery and.
• 1:20:47
  And it opens. That's a bit of the movie magic.
• 1:20:49
  Opens some doors in the floor of Q branch and that tells Bond
• 1:20:56
  that other doors have opened and so therefore he's getting away.
• 1:21:02
  But why were there doors in Q branch at all, especially on the
• 1:21:06
  floor? Like that's that's one of those
• 1:21:09
  images that that stands out as kind of being a stinker in this
• 1:21:13
  movie. Not enough for me to take a full
• 1:21:15
  point away. But every time I think about it,
• 1:21:17
  I'm like, I know Bond needs to know that something is
• 1:21:21
  happening, but why are there doors on the floor and why did
• 1:21:25
  they open and why doesn't anyone ever do anything about it?
• 1:21:29
  They just stay open. Yeah, I think maybe it's a
• 1:21:36
  suggestion that the tunnels from the war footing are still
• 1:21:41
  underneath wherever they are. It doesn't quite make sense, but
• 1:21:44
  something had to. Open to queue, I mean Bond.
• 1:21:47
  When Bond gets there, we also see that the doors are open in
• 1:21:51
  the prison area. Plus, there's a door open to the
• 1:21:54
  tunnels underground. So clearly, you know, this was
• 1:22:00
  one of those contingency plans that was just like, open all the
• 1:22:03
  doors. I don't know which door I'm
• 1:22:04
  going to be locked in. Just open every door and keep
• 1:22:07
  them open. And then I'll get away.
• 1:22:10
  And that's that'll be how I do it.
• 1:22:13
  But yeah, that's the one thing about it that that throws me
• 1:22:16
  off. But it's fine because the chase
• 1:22:20
  is so great. Where it's not awful.
• 1:22:27
  Oh, you're killing me, smiles. No, I know.
• 1:22:30
  No, I enjoy it. It's AI mean.
• 1:22:33
  It's it's got a fun disguise. He dresses up like a police
• 1:22:38
  officer. We don't know exactly what's
• 1:22:40
  happening. There's not a lot of gungles,
• 1:22:43
  the tunnels, there's not a lot of running.
• 1:22:45
  It's kind of slower paced compared to so many other
• 1:22:48
  chases, but it's so crowded and you've got M or you've got Q and
• 1:22:54
  Bond yelling at each other. You've got M currently being
• 1:22:59
  yelled at by a bunch of secretaries from Parliament.
• 1:23:03
  And so all this stuff is happening and it's frantic.
• 1:23:08
  And we know that M is out in public and we know that Silva is
• 1:23:13
  dressed as a cop, and we know that Bond doesn't really know
• 1:23:17
  where he is, but he just keeps kind of getting a little bit
• 1:23:20
  lucky. He does have Q helping him out
• 1:23:22
  as much as Q can. The finding of Silva in the
• 1:23:27
  tunnel when Silva left a door open, that's pure luck.
• 1:23:32
  But that's that domino superpower that Bond has.
• 1:23:35
  But I, I genuinely, you know, I genuinely like it.
• 1:23:39
  Last movie, Quantum of Solace, we had a crowded area with a
• 1:23:45
  chase that tried to be frantic and fast-paced with a lot of
• 1:23:49
  cuts. A civilian got shot by the bad
• 1:23:52
  guy. Like, you know, everything was
• 1:23:54
  happening at once. And now we've got almost the
• 1:23:57
  same setup except clean shots. So we can follow everything as
• 1:24:02
  an audience. But it's still, you know,
• 1:24:05
  overwhelming in terms of what's happening.
• 1:24:07
  And we didn't have to kill any civilians to do it.
• 1:24:12
  It's very appreciated too, even though, like even with all the
• 1:24:18
  people, we get to follow what is being seen without the shaky Cam
• 1:24:25
  shots. So yeah, I really appreciate
• 1:24:27
  that. Yeah, the only really over the
• 1:24:30
  top sequence is when Bond finally catches up to Silva,
• 1:24:35
  sends a couple of warning shots and I do OK.
• 1:24:39
  I'm of two minds on this. It's very silly to drop a train
• 1:24:45
  on someone, but it's also very cool whenever there's a call
• 1:24:50
  back and the villain is able to say it's the latest thing that
• 1:24:54
  I've picked up. It's called a radio.
• 1:24:57
  Like just like Bond had said to Silva back on Silva's fictional
• 1:25:01
  island. You know, So I, I really do love
• 1:25:07
  and hate the way the scene concludes.
• 1:25:10
  But you know, Silva gets away because he dropped a train on
• 1:25:14
  Bond. I don't know if there's anybody
• 1:25:16
  in the train, like I don't know if anybody got hurt.
• 1:25:19
  That's closer to Joker super villain vibes very much.
• 1:25:25
  But yeah, it looked like the train was empty, empty.
• 1:25:26
  Yeah, So it's, you know, it could legitimately be an empty
• 1:25:30
  train that Silva had just planned to use because I don't
• 1:25:35
  know if he's a Joker level of super villain where he would
• 1:25:39
  want to necessarily have a bunch of random deaths.
• 1:25:43
  In the very next scene, there will be a bunch of random
• 1:25:46
  deaths, and a few of them come directly from his hands.
• 1:25:49
  But I think he justifies it in his own head as being like, this
• 1:25:53
  is the actual target. I don't need to kill people
• 1:25:57
  getting to my target. Does that make sense?
• 1:26:00
  Like. Yeah, just need a disturbance
• 1:26:04
  and here's a giant train. So let's drop it on top of our
• 1:26:07
  hero. It's a great image, little bit
• 1:26:12
  over the top, but I'm, you know, we need a couple of over the top
• 1:26:15
  things. This is one of our most grounded
• 1:26:18
  movies. Kind of reminds me of when
• 1:26:22
  Timothy Dalton was chasing drug dealers in Afghanistan.
• 1:26:25
  Like, there's not a lot of heavy stakes, except that there's
• 1:26:30
  someone with a personal grudge against MI 6, but otherwise no
• 1:26:35
  one's trying to take over the world or take over a natural
• 1:26:39
  resource. Like it's fairly low stakes in
• 1:26:43
  water. But yeah, the when Silva gets to
• 1:26:52
  the hearing, M has just given this really great speech about
• 1:26:59
  the types of enemies that MI 6 has to chase today, which are
• 1:27:04
  not nations. They are not people with
• 1:27:07
  borders. They are just people.
• 1:27:10
  They could be anyone. And you don't see a uniform or a
• 1:27:13
  flag. You just see a gun or a bomb.
• 1:27:17
  And then who bursts in but Silva with a gun and he starts
• 1:27:21
  shooting up a bunch of people dressed as a cop like, oh, it's
• 1:27:25
  so good. See, I only question, what was
• 1:27:30
  the plan? Plan He was actually going to
• 1:27:32
  successfully abduct her. I think he was going to kill her
• 1:27:36
  on television in front of the whole world, the head of MI 6
• 1:27:42
  and maybe a few members of Parliament.
• 1:27:45
  We're going to get assassinated. I think this was his third
• 1:27:48
  failed plan to take out M He wanted to blow her up, he wanted
• 1:27:55
  to convert Bond and he wanted to put a bullet in her.
• 1:27:58
  And he keeps failing, but he's also starting to lose his mind a
• 1:28:03
  little bit, so. Like he could have shudder and.
• 1:28:09
  Well, he tried instead of at least twice.
• 1:28:13
  One time he took out just a random dude who stood up in the
• 1:28:17
  way. The second time, Mallory grabbed
• 1:28:20
  her shoulder and pulled her away, and then he took a bullet
• 1:28:24
  in his own shoulder. Yeah, I could see it as him
• 1:28:31
  actually wanted to at least talk to her like he does when he does
• 1:28:35
  finally catch her at the end end of the movie, because he has
• 1:28:40
  stuff he wants to tell her. He's got grievances and it's
• 1:28:45
  time he he got to air them. I mean, he got to air a little
• 1:28:49
  bit of them in MI 6, but she walked away.
• 1:28:53
  So he didn't get to say everything he wanted to say.
• 1:28:56
  And like I said, he's losing his mind.
• 1:28:58
  So maybe he does have a few more grievances that he actually does
• 1:29:02
  want to give. But now his plan's falling apart
• 1:29:05
  because Bond shows up and he's, you know, tossing guns to Eve
• 1:29:09
  and to Mallory. Well, he doesn't toss a gun to
• 1:29:12
  Mallory. He provides cover fire so that
• 1:29:14
  Mallory can get a gun and prove that he's just as good in a
• 1:29:20
  fight as anyone else can be, even with a bullet in his
• 1:29:26
  shoulder. But it's his left shoulder and
• 1:29:27
  he's right-handed, so you know he's able to take out one of the
• 1:29:31
  bad guys. And then Bond shoots the fire
• 1:29:34
  extinguishers and ends the fight, forcing Silva to leave.
• 1:29:38
  But Silva will shoot one random dude on his way out.
• 1:29:43
  That's, yeah, the weirdness to me.
• 1:29:45
  One more guy. I almost thought it was maybe
• 1:29:48
  one of his guys because just a frustration or something.
• 1:29:51
  Someone running up and he just shoots him in the chest, just
• 1:29:54
  takes him out and you know, he's dressed as a cop.
• 1:29:56
  So I could also see like a reporter or civilian running up
• 1:30:01
  to be like, oh God, help me, help me, help me.
• 1:30:03
  And then Blam, he's gone. So.
• 1:30:07
  Yeah. But you did not like that the
• 1:30:11
  rest of the movie from from here.
• 1:30:15
  I think the reflection, it probably is where it needs to
• 1:30:22
  be, where she thinks about her sins and like talks about Silva
• 1:30:28
  and it if we didn't already say it, this is M retiring from the
• 1:30:38
  Bond films. So to give her a send off it, it
• 1:30:43
  makes sense that it's here. But keep in mind, this version
• 1:30:47
  of M has only been in three movies.
• 1:30:49
  I know that it's still Judi Dench and she has been in a
• 1:30:52
  total of 7 movies. But this character of M is
• 1:30:56
  different than the Brosnan M in the other ones.
• 1:31:00
  Sure, we'll. Go.
• 1:31:01
  That's the other hill I will die on and it is showing up in the
• 1:31:07
  wrap up episode. Just so you know, I'm going to
• 1:31:09
  separate 2 Judi Dench's M's. I think it is, I guess a nice
• 1:31:19
  relief to some of the like the chase and everything, but the
• 1:31:29
  the period of Silva getting caught to the policeman coming
• 1:31:33
  firing also felt like a nice reprieve from the action.
• 1:31:38
  So then we get an action scene, but we had, I don't know, 30
• 1:31:42
  minutes beforehand of Silva being captured and like even
• 1:31:50
  getting to the island, like the action scene at the gambling
• 1:31:54
  place to him and Silva firing at several Severin.
• 1:32:02
  I thought it was pronounced Severin but I'm I don't.
• 1:32:05
  Trying to see the name. I mean, it's got all these
• 1:32:07
  accents in it and I I've got. Severin it makes sense between
• 1:32:14
  that spot and the cop spot. It's it's a quiet moment in the
• 1:32:22
  action movie and we get the cop where he confronts M, but he
• 1:32:28
  doesn't quite get he gets to escape, he fails.
• 1:32:33
  And so we get this much action for like an hour and then the
• 1:32:39
  final action is great. So I think that might be my my
• 1:32:43
  feel of it just gets so quiet and slow.
• 1:32:47
  Well, for a long. Time.
• 1:32:50
  And I think what I love about it is there may have been a fourth
• 1:32:54
  contingency plan or a third. I guess he had planned
• 1:32:57
  contingency, contingency. And then Bond and M run away.
• 1:33:03
  He may have had more plans of like, and then if I fail,
• 1:33:08
  they're going to do this and I'm going to respond by doing this.
• 1:33:11
  But Bond brilliantly says, we're getting off off the map.
• 1:33:18
  We're going underground. You're not going to find us, but
• 1:33:21
  you need to leave a trail of bread crumbs that only Silva
• 1:33:26
  could follow. And we're going to go to my
• 1:33:29
  childhood home where we learn. Not only is reboot Bond
• 1:33:35
  canonically Scottish, but he was an orphan who met his parents.
• 1:33:40
  He was a wealthy child, lived in this Manor and his parents died
• 1:33:46
  when he was young but not young enough to have forgotten them.
• 1:33:51
  And that kind of adds to the trauma of M and MI 6 picking
• 1:33:58
  children to train for this program.
• 1:34:05
  Yeah, but then again, it is the picking children is from an old
• 1:34:10
  era, so I could be wrong on that.
• 1:34:13
  It may have been that he just had a chip on his shoulder and
• 1:34:16
  she noticed him during his military career, but he is
• 1:34:19
  canonically a Scottish orphan who knew his parents.
• 1:34:24
  It's kind of. Sad.
• 1:34:25
  So I mean, as we are getting to Skyfall, I don't have much.
• 1:34:31
  Else you didn't have a lot of notes left.
• 1:34:35
  Well, really quick 'cause we we skipped over it completely
• 1:34:40
  because it wasn't a big reference.
• 1:34:42
  But the second 50 years of Bond reference in the movie was when
• 1:34:47
  Bond turned over the bullet shards from his shoulder and he
• 1:34:53
  said for her eyes only. It's a minor reference to For
• 1:34:57
  Your Eyes Only. OK, but the reason I bring that
• 1:35:02
  up is because we get our third and biggest reference to the old
• 1:35:07
  movies and that is the Aston Martin DB5 with all of the
• 1:35:11
  gadgets from the old days. It's it's a very pretty car.
• 1:35:17
  I say that they destroy it, but I do enjoy the the the last
• 1:35:26
  what, 30 minutes of action where they've prepped and all of the
• 1:35:33
  all of the Nixon crannies of the house that Bond grew up in are
• 1:35:37
  used to stay safe and and beat all of these other hench men.
• 1:35:43
  Oh yeah. They make a bunch of booby
• 1:35:45
  traps. It's very Home alone style.
• 1:35:49
  PSA to our American listeners, it is federally illegal to set
• 1:35:54
  up booby traps. You are not allowed to do that
• 1:35:57
  on your property, period. It's it is illegal in every
• 1:36:03
  state and all of the territories.
• 1:36:06
  And the reason for that is because what if there's like a
• 1:36:09
  firefighter or a paramedic who needs to enter the property
• 1:36:13
  because you're suffering from a heart attack or your place is on
• 1:36:16
  fire? They don't have the tools to
• 1:36:19
  shut off a booby trap. Double check for that like.
• 1:36:22
  You have just killed people trying to save you.
• 1:36:24
  So. But the booby traps are cool,
• 1:36:27
  and we're going to see a bunch of them work in in this thing.
• 1:36:31
  Actually, yeah. My only complaint in this whole
• 1:36:34
  thing is that they show that they have a very limited amount
• 1:36:37
  of of rounds for their shotguns and both Kincaid, the the
• 1:36:44
  gamekeeper of the the estate, as well as Bond.
• 1:36:49
  Take practice shots guys, you don't have the rounds.
• 1:36:55
  And this is to show that Bond is fully healed.
• 1:36:58
  He is at 100% Bond by the end of the movie.
• 1:37:02
  The shoulder injury is no longer a concern.
• 1:37:05
  He's back to being a good marksman.
• 1:37:10
  I don't know why Kincaid had to shoot the wall.
• 1:37:13
  He has to show us that he effectively sawed off the
• 1:37:16
  shotgun anyway. It's it's it's another little
• 1:37:24
  thing that kind of makes me go, oh, that's so dumb.
• 1:37:27
  But it's an action movie. You got to have action movie
• 1:37:30
  moments. And when the invasion starts, I
• 1:37:33
  really enjoy it. It's a lot of fun.
• 1:37:35
  Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a little over
• 1:37:40
  the top to come in with a giant helicopter, but this is the
• 1:37:44
  climax fight, so let's let's throw a giant Nope.
• 1:37:48
  Canada, we got to have it all we got to like this is still a bond
• 1:37:52
  picture. We've got to have something big
• 1:37:54
  happening. It wasn't enough to drop a
• 1:37:57
  subway on or yeah, a train on someone.
• 1:37:59
  We got to, we got to drop a helicopter on a house.
• 1:38:02
  But before the the helicopter even shows up, M does get shot.
• 1:38:08
  It's when the dudes are invading the house.
• 1:38:11
  Some of the booby traps, I mean, all of the booby traps go off
• 1:38:15
  and all of them hit their targets.
• 1:38:18
  There's just more men than booby traps.
• 1:38:21
  And one of them gets a shot on M.
• 1:38:24
  She drops her gun. Bond immediately sees her and
• 1:38:27
  says, are you all right and or are you hurt?
• 1:38:30
  And she's like, only my pride. And that's a lie.
• 1:38:33
  That is a that is a flat out lie.
• 1:38:35
  She got hit. But that's the point where
• 1:38:38
  Bond's like, oh, oh, there's a helicopter.
• 1:38:41
  Everybody take the tunnels. I'm going to stay here and kill
• 1:38:43
  a helicopter. It'll work out.
• 1:38:48
  I can do it, Yeah, don't worry about.
• 1:38:49
  It and then he proceeds to run into every grenade that Silva
• 1:38:53
  throws into the house. I was trying to figure like
• 1:38:59
  what? It seems like good sense that
• 1:39:03
  this spy knows where Bond would be most likely and just starts
• 1:39:07
  throwing the grenades in just those spots.
• 1:39:10
  And it works out that bond is in those spots and immediately has
• 1:39:14
  to panic and run away and yeah. And you know, like narrowly
• 1:39:19
  avoid getting blown up again. Until he has to set up the other
• 1:39:24
  explosives and then nothing will hit him.
• 1:39:27
  Should be fine. That's because Silva would never
• 1:39:29
  think that Bond would set up his own explosives.
• 1:39:33
  Although to be fair, when he grabs the two canisters, Silva
• 1:39:40
  does throw a grenade into that room and Bond is leaving the
• 1:39:43
  room when it goes off. So I guess Silva did throw a
• 1:39:47
  grenade. The domino powers just kicked in
• 1:39:51
  at that time. But yeah, Bond sets up his final
• 1:39:56
  booby trap and giant explosion. Take out the helicopter.
• 1:40:00
  I think it it makes sense that that would be a good way if you
• 1:40:07
  could fling enough rock and a helicopter to.
• 1:40:11
  Make it. Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:12
  And I genuinely think it's an accidental helicopter kill.
• 1:40:16
  I think in Bond's head, he's like, all right, Silva's going
• 1:40:19
  to enter the house now and I'm going to blow him up.
• 1:40:23
  And him killing the helicopter is one of those things where
• 1:40:26
  he's probably like, oh, cool. Because when he's in the tunnel
• 1:40:30
  and the explosion happens, there's one point where he stops
• 1:40:33
  and turns around. And maybe I'm just reading into
• 1:40:36
  it, but I get the impression that he's like, that's a bigger
• 1:40:38
  explosion than it should have been.
• 1:40:39
  Like. And then of course, he's able to
• 1:40:43
  dive to the side because as we all know, fire never turns a
• 1:40:47
  corner. It's just impossible, goes
• 1:40:51
  forward, always forward. And maybe it does, I don't know.
• 1:40:54
  I don't know anything about fire.
• 1:40:55
  I've never been inside of an explosion.
• 1:40:57
  I don't know if there's a safe place to stand.
• 1:41:03
  Could we get to more 10 out of 10 Cinematography.
• 1:41:06
  When Bond comes out of the tunnel and has to travel the
• 1:41:09
  mile or two to the Chapel, Freakin Kincaid, being the big
• 1:41:15
  dumb galoof that he is, has a flashlight turned on while he's
• 1:41:20
  escorting him to the Chapel. And of course Silva and his
• 1:41:25
  goons can see that in the distance.
• 1:41:27
  It's miles away but still like they they're not carrying a
• 1:41:32
  limping person. So freakin Kincaid Bond looks so
• 1:41:43
  cool in orange lighting as a shadow moving across the Moors.
• 1:41:49
  He takes out one dude in physical combat but leaves the
• 1:41:53
  guy's weapons behind because I guess he wants to be fast like
• 1:41:57
  Counter Strike. Yeah, it's like, yeah, why are
• 1:42:00
  you not picking that up? Oh, because that would mean that
• 1:42:04
  you have a gun to face up with him.
• 1:42:05
  Why wouldn't you use the gun when you're on the so you can
• 1:42:08
  look cool like getting the other guy's gun?
• 1:42:11
  Yes, it does look cool. Yes, you are.
• 1:42:14
  Bond. OK.
• 1:42:16
  Fine it. You have to just suspend the
• 1:42:18
  disbelief and accept the fact that it looks cool as hell to
• 1:42:22
  see a man without a rifle running around in the dark.
• 1:42:28
  But you know, he doesn't need a gun because, as you said, once
• 1:42:32
  he gets out on the ice, there's no snow, but there is ice.
• 1:42:38
  He grabs the last henchman's gun, shoots a circle in the ice,
• 1:42:44
  and they both go down. Silva takes a couple of shots
• 1:42:48
  and realizes that, you know, there's nothing he can do.
• 1:42:52
  Maybe Bond is dead. It doesn't matter.
• 1:42:54
  He's got to go do his final revenge.
• 1:42:57
  I love the underwater fight. I think it looks incredible.
• 1:43:02
  I think everything in this movie looks incredible.
• 1:43:07
  It's all very well cut on. Yes, very stylized.
• 1:43:13
  The infinitely large lake when Bond is at the bottom and he
• 1:43:18
  shoots the the flare up to see the hole and the lake is a
• 1:43:22
  million times bigger than it was on the surface.
• 1:43:25
  I know it's not that big, but it looks cool as hell, Yeah?
• 1:43:31
  And how cold would it have to be for that deep of the lake to
• 1:43:36
  have a walkable ice sheet on top of it?
• 1:43:39
  I don't know. It's I genuinely don't, but I
• 1:43:43
  guess Scotland is cold. But Silva shows up and he's
• 1:43:50
  finally fully lost his mind. He sees that M already is dying
• 1:43:57
  because she has been hit and so he tries to convince her to do a
• 1:44:03
  suicide pact with Silva. But if you look at the way that
• 1:44:08
  he has angled the pistol, he is only killing him in this
• 1:44:14
  scenario. He is not taking the other end
• 1:44:18
  of. That bullet, I mean lost his
• 1:44:20
  mind. I'm trying to like.
• 1:44:22
  Is there any way to say this is like if he had managed to aim at
• 1:44:29
  both of them, like why? Do you?
• 1:44:34
  Why do you also want to be dead? He, he OK, I'm going to keep
• 1:44:40
  referencing other movies, and I don't even know the name of the
• 1:44:43
  movie that I'm referencing. But there was one of these Army
• 1:44:47
  movies where someone joins the Marines and during their, like,
• 1:44:53
  sign up process, the person signing them up says,
• 1:44:56
  congratulations, you're already dead.
• 1:44:59
  And they interpret this as like a very inspirational thing.
• 1:45:04
  Like if you're already dead, then do whatever you can because
• 1:45:08
  you're already dead. Like if you're already dead,
• 1:45:10
  then yeah, go storm that beach because you're already dead.
• 1:45:14
  Like, what are you going to lose your life?
• 1:45:16
  You already lost that. You signed up for the Marines
• 1:45:18
  like you're already dead. This is almost the reverse side
• 1:45:23
  of that coin where Silva is like, I already took the
• 1:45:28
  cyanide, I'm already dead, and now I'm living in my hell and
• 1:45:33
  I'm going to take other people into my hell.
• 1:45:38
  So that's, that's how I see it. Maybe I'm completely off base.
• 1:45:42
  It's just the way I interpreted his constant deterioration as he
• 1:45:49
  saw him and as he relived his story and then just got bad at
• 1:45:54
  doing everything. And yeah, then Bond saves the
• 1:45:59
  day by putting a knife in, throwing a knife into Silva's
• 1:46:05
  back, and then unfortunately it's not enough time because M
• 1:46:12
  doesn't make it, sadly. I think his final acting of
• 1:46:19
  getting knifed and being really frustrated and upset by that,
• 1:46:23
  then dying was really, really. What I I almost give the
• 1:46:26
  impression that he doesn't believe he is dying.
• 1:46:29
  Like even when he falls to his knees, he's like, I'm still
• 1:46:33
  gonna say that really great one liner.
• 1:46:36
  And instead Bond is like, and then I'm the last rat and I'm
• 1:46:41
  just like, whoa. Oh yeah, it's a fantastic death
• 1:46:48
  from a villain. And Bond even has a one liner
• 1:46:53
  for him as she lays dying. He doesn't know he's she's dying
• 1:46:56
  yet. She's like, what took you so
• 1:46:58
  long? And he's like, I was in some
• 1:47:00
  deep water, ha ha, ha, ha. But then they discover that
• 1:47:05
  indeed she is dying and and all she's able to say to him is that
• 1:47:11
  she's glad that she was right and that or right about
• 1:47:15
  something and that something was presumably bond like she
• 1:47:21
  promoted him to a double O agent very young compared to other
• 1:47:27
  double O agents. She's always been like, you stay
• 1:47:32
  on mission. Even if the whole world has said
• 1:47:34
  you're not on mission, even if I have told everybody else to go
• 1:47:38
  get you like I did in Quantum of Solace, I still want you on
• 1:47:42
  mission. She really trusted this James
• 1:47:49
  Bond. Oh, and the last thing, the last
• 1:47:52
  thing I need to point out about Silva, he makes a big deal out
• 1:47:59
  of the fact that he was forced to change his name.
• 1:48:02
  That Silva, Raul Silva, is a code name.
• 1:48:06
  And his real name is going to be stripped from the wall.
• 1:48:11
  And again, he thinks he is Bond's equal.
• 1:48:14
  He thinks that Bond is just like him.
• 1:48:17
  And when he gets to the grave at the Chapel, he looks at a
• 1:48:21
  tombstone that reads two names with the last name Bond.
• 1:48:27
  And he realizes James Bond never had to change his name.
• 1:48:32
  Like he never had to take on an alias.
• 1:48:34
  He got to be himself. And I think that's that last
• 1:48:38
  little domino that finally tells Silva like I was wrong, like I
• 1:48:46
  misread the entire situation. I can see that.
• 1:48:52
  I did not clock that on my watch through, but that makes sense
• 1:48:57
  that his cover name versus Bond's actual name, yeah.
• 1:49:01
  It's quite interesting. And then we get a cute ending of
• 1:49:06
  Eve going to the roof to deliver this ceramic bulldog that that
• 1:49:13
  bond hates that M has always kept it survived the explosion
• 1:49:18
  in her office. And Eve is like, maybe she
• 1:49:23
  wanted you to have a, a desk job.
• 1:49:25
  And he's like, no. And I, when he's like the
• 1:49:28
  opposite. I pictured M always looking at
• 1:49:33
  that ceramic bulldog and being like, I can't believe I let them
• 1:49:38
  put me behind a desk. I should have been out in the
• 1:49:40
  field my whole life. Yeah, I did see both of them as
• 1:49:46
  being a proverbial bulldog and just so not stubborn, but just
• 1:49:54
  so stoic and solid and. Once they set their mind to
• 1:50:00
  something like you can't get them off of it, once they've put
• 1:50:03
  their jaws down and they've bitten onto something, it's
• 1:50:06
  theirs. And that's the way with both M
• 1:50:09
  and Bond. Like, stubborn is a very good
• 1:50:13
  word for it. Because in this movie
• 1:50:15
  especially, like they stubbornly hold on to what they know.
• 1:50:21
  And even if that gets one of them killed, it got them both
• 1:50:24
  killed. Who?
• 1:50:25
  What am I saying? The very beginning of the movie
• 1:50:27
  got Bond killed. They both died.
• 1:50:32
  Yeah, let's make another. Billion dollars.
• 1:50:35
  And then you know there's a new M behind the desk.
• 1:50:38
  It is Ray Fiennes playing Mallory, and because his last
• 1:50:42
  name is MI, guess he's just going to stick to M even though
• 1:50:46
  everybody has been M So of course he's going to be M.
• 1:50:50
  But this is the first time that we've had an M replacement in a
• 1:50:54
  movie. Every other M replacement has
• 1:50:57
  been between movies. So just something I wanted to
• 1:51:02
  point out before I say anything else.
• 1:51:06
  Is there anything else you want to say about this?
• 1:51:09
  Closing this epilogue? It's a place where Moneypenny
• 1:51:12
  gets named. Bond wants to do more emissions.
• 1:51:17
  Eve is revealed as Moneypenny. Which we haven't had for his
• 1:51:22
  movies so far. I think with the next two ones
• 1:51:25
  we do see her. I think it's useful to have
• 1:51:28
  someone that's not M back at the office and not Q to be like
• 1:51:34
  grounding in a sense. Yeah, and I like that.
• 1:51:37
  She's an action Moneypenny, so presumably we can have her in
• 1:51:42
  the field again. She really is a good field agent
• 1:51:47
  and I would have loved to have, frankly, if this had been a send
• 1:51:52
  off to Bond, I would have loved a Double O 7 Jamie Bond with
• 1:51:56
  with her as the Double O 7 actress.
• 1:52:02
  Obviously they didn't do that. I think it's kind of weak to put
• 1:52:05
  her behind a desk to make her money penny.
• 1:52:07
  She's a great money penny. She's a fantastic money penny.
• 1:52:12
  I just got spoiled by seeing her with a rifle and seeing her do
• 1:52:16
  field work in a casino. Like now.
• 1:52:18
  I don't want her in a desk, I want her out on the field.
• 1:52:23
  Yeah, that's that's reasonable. I don't.
• 1:52:28
  I didn't love the ending lines where he's so happy to do.
• 1:52:31
  More with. Pleasure.
• 1:52:35
  Him with pleasure. Use your Chick-fil-A bang.
• 1:52:41
  Oh, goodness. All right, well, on this podcast
• 1:52:45
  we do ratings, not grades, which really just means that when you
• 1:52:50
  take a score of 1 to 10, a grade will say an average is a 7 out
• 1:52:54
  of 10 because they don't want the students to feel bad.
• 1:52:57
  Whereas a rating says the five out of 10 is the middle.
• 1:53:00
  That's the average because a 5 is in the middle of one through
• 1:53:05
  10. So we're going to say A5 is the
• 1:53:07
  average. That's just the way we do it on
• 1:53:09
  this podcast. But with that said, Justin, will
• 1:53:13
  you tell me what you would give Skyfall and why?
• 1:53:19
  Usually I have my review number picked out when we start
• 1:53:25
  recording but this time I didn't because I I don't think I
• 1:53:30
  usually change it but at the end of this I want to give it.
• 1:53:37
  I want to give it 6.5 because I still just love Casino Royale
• 1:53:42
  because of how it feels like 2 movies that dovetailed together
• 1:53:47
  and like it's all right. Like, oh, we meet Vesper after
• 1:53:51
  an hour. She's the most important person
• 1:53:54
  in the next movie. She's just not going to put we.
• 1:53:59
  Get yeah we get 2 full movies, 2 full arcs.
• 1:54:05
  This one felt like 1 arc and the the slow down of the action
• 1:54:12
  scenes and the travelling scenes at the 3/4 mark just hit it a
• 1:54:18
  little bit down for me. I didn't love all of everything
• 1:54:24
  about it. Yes, it's beautifully shot.
• 1:54:27
  We get some very good acting and dialogue and monologue.
• 1:54:36
  There's creepy bond which brings it down.
• 1:54:41
  Intro is good, song is good. Like I enjoyed it more than your
• 1:54:46
  average movie. I don't enjoy it as much as
• 1:54:50
  Casino Royale. It may be better than Casino
• 1:54:53
  Royale, but my personal opinion would give it 6 1/2.
• 1:54:59
  That's fair. That's, that's a very fair
• 1:55:01
  rating, especially because I'm going to give it a 10.
• 1:55:06
  Oh my gosh, I'm all the way at the top.
• 1:55:11
  This is my favorite Bond movie ever.
• 1:55:14
  You said you said it for me like this is the one that before we
• 1:55:20
  did this podcast, I had only seen it twice, but I had seen it
• 1:55:25
  twice to the previous movies once.
• 1:55:29
  And then I watched it immediately after we recorded
• 1:55:33
  last week and I was like, this is a nine out of 10.
• 1:55:37
  This is nearly a perfect movie. And the things that stood out to
• 1:55:40
  me as bad still stand out to me as bad because even in a 10 out
• 1:55:45
  of 10 movie, there are going to be missteps.
• 1:55:49
  It's it's the opposite end of a one out of 10 movie for me where
• 1:55:53
  I say, even in a one out of 10, yeah, there's going to be
• 1:55:57
  something redeemable about it. Like, and so in in this movie,
• 1:56:02
  there are some things that aren't wonderful.
• 1:56:05
  And frankly, there's going to be some things that are not going
• 1:56:08
  to age well. I hope that there will be things
• 1:56:12
  that we look back on and say, wow, that was weird.
• 1:56:16
  But for the characterization of James Bond on his 50th
• 1:56:20
  anniversary with his, what, 6th actor?
• 1:56:25
  123456 actors have played this character and I think we're at
• 1:56:31
  the best version of the actor with the best story that they
• 1:56:36
  have ever told. We did not watch Never Say
• 1:56:41
  Never, the unofficial Sean Connery Bond movie.
• 1:56:45
  That one, if I remember correctly, is about Bond being
• 1:56:48
  too old and like making mistakes and people saying you should get
• 1:56:53
  out of the game. This movie is doing that story
• 1:56:57
  again, but it's doing it in such an elevated way.
• 1:57:01
  And the villain is so fascinating.
• 1:57:04
  And he he's not even in most of the movie, but he makes such a
• 1:57:09
  big impression for me. And then like I said, every time
• 1:57:12
  I watch this movie, I get a new perspective from it.
• 1:57:16
  And the one I got watching it today because I was like, I, I
• 1:57:20
  got to make sure that a nine is justified.
• 1:57:23
  I was like, Oh my gosh, this is the reverse version of The Count
• 1:57:26
  of Monte Cristo. And then I was like, this
• 1:57:29
  movie's a 10 out of 10. Every time I watch it, there's
• 1:57:33
  something else I take away from it where I'm like, that was
• 1:57:35
  brilliant. That was incredible.
• 1:57:38
  This is peak Bond. This is the best movie in the
• 1:57:42
  franchise to me and so I have now used A1 and I have used A10.
• 1:57:47
  I have explored the whole spectrum.
• 1:57:53
  But you know. All in one France.
• 1:57:55
  Exactly. I don't know if I'm always going
• 1:57:57
  to be able to do that. There won't be enough movies
• 1:58:00
  where you can justifiably do a full range like that, but I
• 1:58:06
  genuinely think Skyfall is a step above most other movies.
• 1:58:12
  I think it's beautifully shot. I think the story really comes
• 1:58:16
  together in such a fascinating way.
• 1:58:19
  And then I think on rewatch you start to pick up these minor
• 1:58:23
  details that really just elevate it in my eyes, to me, the the
• 1:58:29
  other 10 out of 10 movie that I can think of right now.
• 1:58:32
  And it's for the same reason where every time I watch it, I
• 1:58:36
  think it gets better is Napoleon Dynamite.
• 1:58:39
  I hated that movie when it first came out.
• 1:58:42
  Then I watched it again and I was like, OK, it's it's fine.
• 1:58:44
  Then I watched it again and I was like, you know what, this is
• 1:58:46
  pretty good. Then I watched it again and I
• 1:58:49
  was like, this is one of the best comedies ever made.
• 1:58:52
  And I have been that way every time I've watched it.
• 1:58:56
  And I feel the exact same way with Skyfall.
• 1:58:58
  Every time I've watched it I've liked it more than the last time
• 1:59:02
  I've watched it and it's if I could go up to an 11 I would.
• 1:59:06
  I'm at a 10. I'm staying at A10 and our show
• 1:59:09
  average is now the highest it's ever been at an 8.25.
• 1:59:15
  Got to be bringing down those averages.
• 1:59:17
  That's OK, I did the same with die Another day by giving it A1
• 1:59:21
  to your 5. I think that's that's fair.
• 1:59:28
  I think you did enjoy it more than I and it's for how pretty
• 1:59:34
  it is. It's great.
• 1:59:35
  Yeah, I mean, for a show average, it's only 1/4 of a
• 1:59:40
  point higher than Casino Royale. Like that.
• 1:59:45
  That was my eight out of 10 movie.
• 1:59:47
  That was the one that before this one, I was like, holy crap,
• 1:59:51
  this movie was so good. I don't know if we're ever going
• 1:59:54
  to get that good again. And then I feel like, at least
• 1:59:57
  for me, this movie blows that one out of the water.
• 2:00:00
  It's fine. It's fine to me if you don't
• 2:00:03
  feel the same way. But that's that's gonna be the
• 2:00:08
  fun for this one when we come back and revisit it on the wrap
• 2:00:12
  up. And we have to determine whether
• 2:00:14
  or not the villains really lived up to it, whether the Allies
• 2:00:18
  lived up to it. Some days this movie is a nine
• 2:00:22
  for me, but today it's a 10. And.
• 2:00:26
  I bet it's going to be a 10 if I watch it again.
• 2:00:31
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• 2:00:35
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• 2:00:41
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• 2:01:19
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• 2:01:22
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• 2:01:29
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  We've got 2 movies left in the Bond franchise, a wrap up
• 2:01:34
  episode and then we'll reveal what our next franchise will be.
• 2:01:39
  But OK, our next movie is Spectre.
• 2:01:45
  I'm probably going to forget, but you got to help me not
• 2:01:48
  forget. But there is a significant
• 2:01:50
  reason why we are finally getting a movie called Spectre
• 2:01:54
  in 2015 and I'm excited. For it is it money?
• 2:01:59
  Kind of money is a lot to do with it.
• 2:02:01
  Money is actually everything to do with it.
• 2:02:03
  You're you're absolutely correct.
• 2:02:05
  Pictures and James Bond will return.
• 2:02:08
  Inspector, goodbye.