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Live with The Joy Jolt: Enjoy with Astrologer Rachel Lang · The Joy Jolt Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Are we live?
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I alive?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this thing on?
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Joy Job Podcast, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Natalie Ledwell.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Susan Patrick.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're joined by the amazing Rachel Lang.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, everybody.
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  I'm so excited to be here talking about one of my favorite
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  subjects with you two.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joy, joy, joy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  So we we've known Rachel for I've known you for a couple of
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  years now,
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  like a few years.
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  And we love her because,
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  number one,
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  she is our connection to the stars and astrology.
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  SPEAKER_00: And all the cool stuff and the fun stuff that's happening.
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  So we're going to be talking about today how to tap into joy
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  and how to use what we
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  SPEAKER_00: know about what's happening with the planets.
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  SPEAKER_00: And apparently there's a couple of joy planets that we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love we're surrounded by joy and we don't even know it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So true.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's in each one of your charts.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have a placement for joy in your charts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Does everybody have a placement for joy?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there are actually two.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so we'll talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: We'll get into that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yes, everyone has joy in their charts and in their hearts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  So what I'd love to do is just start with,
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  so what brings you joy,
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  Rachel?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you do to infuse joy into your being?
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  SPEAKER_02: Actually, you know, it's funny.
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  I was thinking about the topic of joy this morning as I was
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  getting ready.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like
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  in in my in my book modern day magic i wrote that really what
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  power is is the
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  ability to source your own joy yeah and that it's it that when
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  you can discover
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  when you can find joy in everything then you then you have the
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  then you have the
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  power to do anything you want then you can create your reality
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  then you know you
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  SPEAKER_02: you can have a life that's worth celebrating.
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  So actually,
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  I make it a point every day to infuse my activities with joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And even if I'm not feeling,
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  SPEAKER_02: even if I'm doing something really benign,
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  SPEAKER_02: I find a way to harness that inner joy,
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  to go deep into my soul and feel it and pull it up and bring
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  that to my experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that you're equating the word magic and joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Magic equals joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  they're so closely correlated in that there's an energy that
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  exists within joy that
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  SPEAKER_01: does make magical things in a person's life occur.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And power too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm very interested in looking at power systems.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm really involved.
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  SPEAKER_02: You both know I'm very involved in
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  SPEAKER_02: in my local government.
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  I'm very involved in leadership,
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  as we all are part of a leadership group.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm always interested in looking at who has power and who doesn't,
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  SPEAKER_02: and how can we balance those scales?
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  And when you think about the ways that certain marginalized
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  people or groups of
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  SPEAKER_02: people have been disempowered systemically,
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  SPEAKER_02: it's about
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  SPEAKER_02: their ability to experience joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: When we can reclaim that narrative and say, yes, I'm going to be joyful.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm going to owe my joy.
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  Then we start discovering ways to be more powerful in our lives
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  and more powerful in our world.
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  yeah yeah and and also you know saying that you're involved in
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  local government
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  it's and then becoming an advocate for others joy right and so
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  i i can't be
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  responsible for anybody's joy i mean your joy is your fault
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  yeah your joy your joy
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  is totally your fault you know sorry sorry you're responsible
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  what i can be is i
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  SPEAKER_01: can be an advocate for joy i can be an advocate for others joy
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  SPEAKER_01: And be an invitation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think that that's one of the things you've done.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love your story about where you live in your amazing town of Ojai,
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  SPEAKER_01: where you decided to run for local office.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to talk a little bit about what brought you there?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I love my community.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  I grew up and my grandpa was the first mayor of a little town
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  called Arnold,
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  SPEAKER_02: Missouri.
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  And so I grew up in Arnold,
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  Missouri is like a blue collar,
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  salt of the earth kind of town.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's a suburb of St. Louis.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so,
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  SPEAKER_02: and when I was,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: we grew up and there were,
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  SPEAKER_02: he owned a funeral home and that's a different story for a different day.
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  SPEAKER_02: But.
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  SPEAKER_02: It has been joyful.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean.
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  But growing up,
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  our holidays were filled with police officers and firefighters.
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  And then there would be people in the community who didn't have
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  anything to eat.
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  And so they'd come and my grandma would have these bags and
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  these presents for them and
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  SPEAKER_02: And I saw that, I saw the real heart of public service.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's about connection and it's about doing things for people.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's about building community.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I watched him and he was, he's just awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love my grandpa.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I watched him.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was his name?
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  SPEAKER_02: His name was Ferd B. Lang.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hello, Ferd.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ferd.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Alice.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I watched him and I remember thinking that's the coolest thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: I could do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't, I had no concept I'd ever be in, in local government.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm an astrologer.
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  SPEAKER_02: I, you know, I'm a lesbian.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, these two things.
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  SPEAKER_02: We need more of that in government.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I think we do.
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  SPEAKER_02: We do.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so I, but I, I love my community.
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  SPEAKER_02: I really wanted to give back and I really wanted to help
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  to create more of a more sustainable joyful world for future
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  generations yes uh you
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  know i want i want our kids to have a better environment than
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  we had growing up um
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  and to have more opportunities and to feel a part of things you
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  know we have alone
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  i don't know if you both have heard this but we have a
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  loneliness epidemic in our
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  SPEAKER_02: in our world
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  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And what's cool about local government is that we can create
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  responses to that,
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  SPEAKER_02: either through the way that we address houselessness,
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  SPEAKER_02: through creating more recreational opportunities,
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  through just being a model for what a good community person or
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  someone who's
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  SPEAKER_02: involved can be.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that as part of government,
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  SPEAKER_00: you're creating opportunity and space for people to connect,
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  SPEAKER_00: for the community to connect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm fortunate.
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  SPEAKER_00: I live in a building here in L.A.,
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's like three towers.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we've got all the like,
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  we've got the tennis courts and the pickleball and we've got a
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  restaurant,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've got a cafe and we've got the gym,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've got all these different things.
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  But I made a point that when I moved in here,
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  I'm like,
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  I'm going to know my neighbours.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I knew that there was a number of older people here,
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  SPEAKER_00: but on my floor,
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  SPEAKER_00: everyone was kind of young.
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  SPEAKER_00: So,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: we still,
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  SPEAKER_00: we catch up regularly,
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  SPEAKER_00: have a drink,
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  SPEAKER_00: catch up on the gossip of the building and everything that's going on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I made a point of making sure that we would have connection.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love that as part of government, you are creating that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I love government.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually more curious about the planets.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a hard right up in the stars.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you said something that I've never heard
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  SPEAKER_01: that some of the planets are actually joy planets.
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  SPEAKER_01: Talk to me about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anytime someone,
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  SPEAKER_02: one of my clients comes to me and they say,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: I need to have more fun or I'm just not feeling joyful.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I know where that is in your chart.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there are two points in the chart that relate to joy or enjoyment.
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  SPEAKER_02: And one of them is Jupiter.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, when you think about Jupiter, Jupiter is the god Jove.
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  SPEAKER_02: Think about all the words that derive from Jove.
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  SPEAKER_02: Jovial, joyful, jubilant.
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  So Jupiter relates to that feeling,
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  that feeling of,
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  wow,
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  anything's possible.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, this is amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Enthusiasm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Enthusiasm.
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  And usually if you want to know what you can do to create more
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  joy in your life,
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  SPEAKER_02: then you look at your Jupiter and you say,
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  SPEAKER_02: where is your Jupiter?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where is it?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: if you're Jupiter,
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  SPEAKER_02: if you're born in,
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  SPEAKER_02: if you're born in like right now,
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  SPEAKER_02: Jupiter changes signs every- My birthday is this week.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was born like right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's- Ah, awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, Jupiter stays in one sign for a year.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And wherever Jupiter is, so happy birthday.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wherever Jupiter is at the time of your birth,
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  SPEAKER_02: whatever sign it is,
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  SPEAKER_02: whatever house it is,
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  that tells you what you can do if you're feeling down and you
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  just want to infuse
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  SPEAKER_02: your life with some more joy.
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  So right now,
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  as of last June,
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  Jupiter has been moving through the sign of Cancer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And cancer relates to our emotional connections.
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  SPEAKER_02: It relates to food.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know bakeries,
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  SPEAKER_02: dairy,
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  SPEAKER_02: actually,
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  SPEAKER_02: specifically,
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  SPEAKER_02: lettuce,
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  SPEAKER_02: cucumbers,
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  SPEAKER_02: anything that's like nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: I eat frozen cucumber all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you really?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, she does.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you really?
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Frozen cucumber.
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  You've never done it and you like to eat ice,
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  freeze some cucumber,
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  it'll give you some joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had no idea.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: That, you know, and, and so that's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I love that the symbolism too,
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  SPEAKER_02: because in astrology,
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  what's cool about astrology is that everything relates to
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  everything else.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think of it as the study of relationships and the study of cycles.
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  SPEAKER_02: And,
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  SPEAKER_02: and so every,
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  SPEAKER_02: you can look on your,
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  around your room and everything in your room has an
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  astrological correlation.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: This lipstick right here, this is Venus.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's plumping too.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I, you know, that's Venus.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, the notebook is Mercury.
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  SPEAKER_02: The pen is Mercury.
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  SPEAKER_02: So everything has a correlation.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so wherever Jupiter is moving through,
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  that's where we collectively can experience joy and abundance
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  and expansion.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so Cancer relates to our home, our family.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  And like I said,
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  cucumbers,
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  lettuce,
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  dairy,
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  but mostly it's home and family.
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  And so if you think about where you've felt the most joyful
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  over the last year,
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  SPEAKER_02: I would imagine some of those moments had to do with your family,
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  SPEAKER_02: had to do with people you were connecting with,
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  SPEAKER_02: that heart connections or friends who felt like family.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Full stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: Full stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: and cultivating those relationships and,
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  SPEAKER_01: and letting joy be,
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: cause I always,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that joy is almost happiness in movement.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stars are moving, planets are moving.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everybody wants to be happy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, and so it's this sense of what is happiness?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think happiness is it's joy in movement.
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  It's like,
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  you know,
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  so we,
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  we need that cycle and sometimes we need the contrast,
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  right?
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  So sometimes,
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  and I know that you do workshops around healing trauma and
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  healing pain and,
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it's that the cycle of healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  You want to talk a little bit about kind of what you do related
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  to healing and trauma work?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm actually going to be so in,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  astrology gives us this this language to be able to speak to
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  our life experiences,
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  to be able to find the antidote for some of the painful points
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  in our lives and to
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  SPEAKER_02: be able to understand,
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  SPEAKER_02: oh,
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  SPEAKER_02: this is why this happened to gain some context and some meaning.
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  and so one of the things that i'm going to be doing in june is
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  i'll be actually at
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  the omega institute which is in rhinebeck new york and i'll be
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  with three other
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  astrologers some of the best astrologers in the world and truly
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  um and we're going
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  to be teaching we're going to be doing a workshop to talk about
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  the pain points in
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  your chart and what i'm going to be talking about specifically
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  is the moon
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  Because the moon,
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  all of the planets relate to a different aspect of your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the moon is the soft, vulnerable, little inner child part of you.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the youngest, sweetest part of you.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's the part that cannot feel safe in the world sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm talking,
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  SPEAKER_02: when I talk about your moon,
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to talk like I'm your,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: like it's a very nurturing influence.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so this workshop is going to be,
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  and what I love doing is I love helping people to look deep
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  into the moon and see
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  SPEAKER_02: how does this relate to my relationship with my mother or my father or my
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  SPEAKER_02: grandmother,
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  SPEAKER_02: whoever raised you and nurtured you.
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  SPEAKER_02: How does this relate to the way I experience love in my own life?
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  because if we are closed off because we've had painful
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  experiences in our childhood
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  then we're not able to experience as much joy as we could when
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  we're open-hearted
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  and we really feel that connection yeah yeah so so i'll be
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  focusing on the moon but
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  there are other points too that relate to to wounds chiron
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  relates to wounds um
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  saturn can relate to wounds sometimes some of our bigger
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  traumas relate to pluto
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  So there are points in the chart that show us where we might
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  have had struggles
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  SPEAKER_02: early in our childhood.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Jupiter is one of the planets that relates to where's the antidote?
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  SPEAKER_02: The antidote.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: The antidote.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Venus too.
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  SPEAKER_02: Venus is the planet.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Venus and Jupiter are what we call our benefic planets.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they're the planets that relate to
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  SPEAKER_02: the things that make life worth living and enjoyable.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Venus is physical pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, yes, amen.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's the dancing.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's the delicious food.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's putting on your lipstick and feeling good about yourself.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Pleasure.
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  I think that word is so important related to joy because I
• 15:12
  think a lot of times
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: when you hear the word pleasure,
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: people immediately
• 15:15
  go to sexual pleasure yeah there's so much beyond just what is
• 15:20
  the baseline yeah we
• 15:21
  all want to have sexual pleasure but like you said it's like
• 15:24
  putting on your
• 15:24
  lipstick and touching your own hair and just you know even the
• 15:27
  way that you can
• 15:28
  kind of run your hands down your legs and just feel your own
• 15:31
  flesh and you know
• 15:32
  it's just feeling the wind on your your skin it's it's do you
• 15:36
  just get pleasure
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: being in your body
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that because it's joyful pleasure because you think about it,
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: like even feeling sun against your skin.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: or when you're going for a walk,
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: I went for a walk this morning and the smell of jasmine.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: and when you notice all of these different things,
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: it's like you're reminding yourself.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you're dropping into the moment.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're having a mindful moment.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: But what you're attaching to that is appreciation, is gratitude, is joy.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Joy.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because that sets your mindset.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: It sets your energy for the day.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: You were doing something a little while ago,
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Rachel,
• 16:18
  that you were doing this thing about the pain points and
• 16:22
  looking deep into the
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: moon.
• 16:23
  And this is what I think all of that trauma creates,
• 16:26
  right,
• 16:26
  is this contraction.
• 16:28
  And one of the things that Nat and I always talk about related
• 16:30
  to joy is joy is the
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: committed practice to just open yourself.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: The meaning of joy is just open yourself.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's an opening and an opening and an opening.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: And what I love about what you're saying is you see the pain points,
• 16:45
  but then look out into your charts and start advocating for
• 16:49
  where you can go so you
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: can get more pleasure.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a little secret, too.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, I wrote a book about magic.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: I've been studying esotericism for 30 years or more, you know.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: And here's a little secret.
• 17:07
  So the planets Jupiter and Venus both relate to joy and
• 17:11
  pleasure and all those
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: things,
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: but they're also the planets that relate to attracting what you desire.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: And Venus in particular, she's the magnetic attraction.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: So she relates to falling in love, flirting,
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: And how do we attract into our lives the opportunities that we want,
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: the material experiences that we want?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: How do we manifest things, to put it into really simple terms?
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so there's a real relationship between pleasure,
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: as you were describing it,
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: pleasure,
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: and creating the life that we want.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: So pleasure and power, joy and power, joy.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: pleasure, joy, power, and magic.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: All those are connected.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm living in that world.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: All those levels.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: And when those are living together,
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: because I'll be honest,
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: you don't hear those words together enough.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: You don't hear joy and power together.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: we hear power and we see,
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's this,
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: there's a distorted view of what power is.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Joy is power.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Pleasure is power.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: Playfulness is power.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: But we don't hear that.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that you couched those words together.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: That gave me the chills.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: That gave me some pleasure.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a question for you,
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Rachel,
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: because I'm wondering,
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: with astrology,
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: we can look at the charts,
• 18:41
  we can understand or explain why certain things may have
• 18:45
  happened at certain times
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: in our life.
• 18:47
  um and i know that we can look forward and going okay well this
• 18:51
  is the energy
• 18:51
  that's coming through this is you know what's going to be
• 18:53
  happening is there a way
• 18:55
  is it just like that's it it's explaining what's happening or
• 18:59
  is there something
• 18:59
  that we can do to change it is there something that we could do
• 19:02
  to to harness the
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: power of of what the planets and the stars are doing for us
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: I love this question so much because the answer is a resounding yes.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: It is a resounding yes.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think what I love about astrology is that it's not static,
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: that the planets are constantly moving.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: We have these cycles that repeat themselves over and over and over again.
• 19:31
  And I'll find that when I'm working with clients and they're
• 19:36
  going through a
• 19:37
  particular cycle and they miss an opportunity or they wish
• 19:40
  they'd done something
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: and they didn't do it,
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: the next time that cycle comes back,
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: they get another chance.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's awesome.
• 19:48
  But I think where you can infuse your free will and your own
• 19:56
  power into your
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: experience of astrology is looking at
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: the opportunities that are there in your chart.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: Every planet has a spectrum of possibilities.
• 20:07
  And sometimes things are happening in your life or those wounds
• 20:11
  have happened.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to digress.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll come back to that.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm bookmarking that thought.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 20:21
  But sometimes what can happen is that you can look at a point
• 20:25
  in your chart and you
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: can think,
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: oh,
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: this is hard.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: This is, wow, this square, this opposition is so hard.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: But then you realize that it's your greatest strength.
• 20:36
  Sometimes the hardest things that we go through are the most
• 20:41
  miraculous things
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: later down the road.
• 20:44
  And the point that I was like thinking that I wanted that like
• 20:47
  shot in probably
• 20:48
  from spirit that I wanted to bring up is that there's one point
• 20:52
  in our chart that
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: is called Chiron.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's a little planetoid.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: It looks like a little key.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: And Chiron is known as the wounded healer.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: But a lot of people are like, what does that mean?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: What is the wounded healer?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:05
  And so Chiron relates to some of the little microaggressions
• 21:10
  that we experience in our lives.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it is the great big traumas that are our deep wounds,
• 21:16
  but sometimes it's just those repeated messages we heard about
• 21:19
  why we're not enough
• 21:21
  or the bully in school who made you feel like you should be
• 21:25
  ashamed of being too
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: smart or you're different.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_02: So it's those little messages that just attack our ego.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: And what I've seen in my practice.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: And that rob your joy, right?
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: That rob your joy.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: They attack the ego, but they're really sucking your joy.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm loving this idea of this wounded healer that's there for me.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: So keep going.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: What I've noticed is we all have our Chiron return at age 50 or 50 to 51.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody goes through it.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's my 51st birthday.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, so you're coming out of your Chiron return.
• 22:07
  But what happens is that there's this shift that I've seen in
• 22:11
  my clients that is,
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: and I have my Chiron return this year too,
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: Susan.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, whoo.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: But there's this shift that happens in my clients.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: And that is that those pain points in their childhood
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: that have robbed them of joy or that haven't allowed them to access joy,
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: that that turns into a core desire and a way of contributing.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: So it's often connected to the career paths they choose.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's connected to the major contribution that they give.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: And then they're taking their pain and they're healing the world with
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: with their own healing process results in healing the world.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Or here in the other communities.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think we heal the world even if we're just doing our own
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: just doing our own work, even if we don't do anything out in the world.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's vibrating out beyond us, for sure.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: If we're doing the work, the vibration is going, we're all connected.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: So hugely important.
• 23:14
  And I think that's the point that a lot of people don't get is
• 23:17
  they think they need
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: to be doing some grand thing to be doing something big.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: But if you are the embodiment of joy,
• 23:23
  you're vibrating at a level that's giving other people
• 23:26
  permission to vibrate.
• 23:28
  And it is creating a ripple effect that you're not going to
• 23:30
  ever see the full impact of.
• 23:33
  you're not going to you know just like in government you know
• 23:36
  you're there you're
• 23:37
  doing things you're passing these bills these laws but but
• 23:39
  you're not going to see
• 23:40
  the full impact of that ripple of the decisions that are made
• 23:43
  and we underestimate
• 23:45
  the power of the ripple effect that joy has so being a joy
• 23:50
  seeking being looking at
• 23:51
  the planets and going this is my pain point but where am i
• 23:54
  going that is a that's a
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: huge important journey not just to self but to the world
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well,
• 24:03
  I know I had a session with Rachel last year and I don't know
• 24:08
  about anybody else,
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: but 2025 sucked.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was hard.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: It was a hard year.
• 24:15
  But here's what made it easier for me is that when I had my
• 24:20
  session with you,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: you were saying,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: okay,
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: this is what's going to be happening and blah,
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: blah,
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: blah,
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: blah.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, okay.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, I know that this year is going to be tough.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I also understood how purposeful it was going to be.
• 24:34
  So even when I'm having tough days and tough moments and tough
• 24:38
  months or whatever
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: it was,
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: I could see the purpose in it.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I could take myself out of it for a moment,
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: understood that this was the energies and things that were happening,
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: but this was part of my journey,
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: like it was a purposeful part of my journey.
• 24:54
  So even though it was tough,
• 24:55
  I was still having moments where I can tap into my joy and go,
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I know this is,
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: this is,
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 25:03
  if there's one word that I can use to sum up last year and it
• 25:05
  was humbling,
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: it was just humbling for me,
• 25:09
  but it really helped to change me into this version of myself
• 25:13
  that's facing the
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: new,
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: the new chapter that's coming through.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was super helpful.
• 25:22
  Oh,
• 25:23
  I love he,
• 25:23
  I mean,
• 25:24
  I love,
• 25:24
  I,
• 25:25
  I'm so I,
• 25:26
  I,
• 25:26
  you know,
• 25:26
  Natalie,
• 25:27
  you're not alone in,
• 25:29
  I mean,
• 25:30
  everyone,
• 25:30
  the last two years,
• 25:32
  let me just,
• 25:33
  let me just lay some context for everybody.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: The last two years have been really hard because they've been remarkable,
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: miraculous,
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: hard,
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: like you're,
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: like you're saying,
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: because we've been in this major paradigm shift and the,
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: it's very similar.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: The,
• 25:50
  the outer planet transit between Saturn and Neptune that
• 25:53
  happened this year is
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: similar to what happened in 2020 and
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: when Saturn and Pluto met up.
• 26:00
  And so we have all of this major change happening and we're
• 26:04
  seeing it in our
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: geopolitical stories.
• 26:06
  I mean,
• 26:06
  you can't even listen to the news without feeling like,
• 26:09
  oh,
• 26:10
  what's going on?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the joy?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: This is why we need you.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm entitled to feel joy in all of this chaos.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: And Natalie and I talked about that,
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: that even when we were talking about doing this as a concept,
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: we knew this was an important conversation,
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: but we also had this moment of like,
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Is it frivolous to be talking about joy?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: But that was when we really had to anchor in and be like,
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: no,
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: this is the most important,
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: generous,
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: sacred conversation we could be having in the midst of all of this chaos.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is that despite what looks like kind of madness,
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: despite not understanding how it's all going to disentangle,
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: that I can own the power of my,
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: and that's not,
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: it's that I can do.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Experience pleasure in this chaotic life.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: And that's my right because it goes by so fast.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: My life is important.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Your life is important.
• 27:07
  The joy,
• 27:08
  pleasure,
• 27:09
  the power that you get to experience in your life is important.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I love the clarity that you help give people kind of looking at,
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: how things line up for them.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I love that you said things are a cycle.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's a cycle.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: So if you miss an opportunity, it's going to come back.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, there you go.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: Can't get it wrong.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a question.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm so curious because I have Natalie's chart.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to show, I'm not going to give your information away.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm wondering where,
• 27:46
  I'm wondering if we could talk about your experiences of joy
• 27:50
  and then I'll reflect
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: on your Jupiter.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: Is that, is that something, would that be fun for you?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be awesome.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: To show the correlation, to show the, okay.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: So Natalie, I'm going to start with you.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: And how do you, how do you define joy?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: What, what, what, what makes you, what makes you feel joy?
• 28:08
  Man,
• 28:10
  a lot of things make me feel joy because I intentionally get
• 28:15
  into that frequency.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: So like I said, it could be a walk, it could be a smell, it could be,
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: My friends, well, my friends are a big thing.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: Friends, deep, meaningful conversation, connection.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: That brings me a ton of joy.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and of course, my little doggy, Bella.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: She's like a little voice hound.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 28:36
  So your Jupiter is in the sign of Libra,
• 28:39
  which is a very relationship-oriented sign.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: And it's connected to balance.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's also connected to beauty.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, it's Venus ruled, so pleasure.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: But it's a very idea-oriented experience of joy.
• 28:57
  Like wanting to be able to create it,
• 29:01
  connecting it with other people and with relationships.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: Also, your Jupiter is in the ninth house, which relates to Venus.
• 29:10
  international travel higher education philosophy spirituality
• 29:16
  yeah and it's right
• 29:18
  next to uranus which is a planet that relates to anything is
• 29:24
  possible at any time
• 29:25
  wow yeah yeah yeah i'm not i'm hanging out with you i know my
• 29:31
  two favorite words in
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: the english language put together is why not
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Why not?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: I love it so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: And Susan, yours is...
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: So mine is joy.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Joy, just open yourself.
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  My desire is to keep peeling back the layers and just opening
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  myself to feeling
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  SPEAKER_01: more,
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  SPEAKER_01: expressing more,
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  SPEAKER_01: being more.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just, it's openness, you know?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: When I got my master's,
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: when I was in my master's degree,
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  SPEAKER_01: they did say to me,
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: they're like,
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  SPEAKER_01: Susan,
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  SPEAKER_01: you have a problem between openness and personalness.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so they said, you have to learn not to be so personal.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: I get personal with people, right?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm very personal, which can make people feel uncomfortable.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: But what I really need to learn, and this is what they said, is openness.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that openness, being really open is clean.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it's an invitation to the world where if you're too personal,
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  SPEAKER_01: it could be scary and people can get,
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: it could be uncomfortable.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I want to create a world where not only I'm more open,
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  SPEAKER_01: people around me have an invitation to be more open.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: Now I don't have your exact chart,
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: but you said you were born,
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  SPEAKER_02: you said this is your,
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: this is your,
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  SPEAKER_01: Thursday's my birthday,
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  SPEAKER_01: 51 years old.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that would be April 23rd, 1975.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what time you were born?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think I was born at like 1205.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: In the morning.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, in the afternoon.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: And where were you born?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: In Mission Viejo, California.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Ah.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: And my social security number is no.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: Stop, stop.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what I thought.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I bet she has Jupiter in Aries.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: You do.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: So here's the thing.
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  And what's beautiful is that your Jupiter is in a really – it's
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  an opposition,
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: but the opposition isn't always bad.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes that's like, ooh, that's a lot of energy with your moon.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: So here's what Aries is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Aries is open.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: Aries is the first sign of the Zodiac.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's a fire sign.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, I want to go big or go home.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Aries is also, it's taking a risk.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's taking that leap of faith.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so that's a part of your joy story.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Aries is also like, you know, sometimes you can get fire.
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  Sometimes you can feel joy just from banter,
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  like conflict,
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  like,
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  ah,
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  you know,
• 32:19
  ugh.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very passionate sign.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_02: So passion and joy are synonymous for you.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: And because Jupiter's in a relationship with your moon,
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  SPEAKER_02: there's definitely a relational aspect to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when you feel joy, you feel it to the nth degree.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: When you feel pain, you feel it to the nth degree.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's like big emotions.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of feels, a lot.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of feelings.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of feels.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_02: And your, your Jupiter is also in the ninth house, just like Natalie.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, and both of you don't live in your home country.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't live where you were born.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's true.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you both find,
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: you both have that in common where you,
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  SPEAKER_02: you can,
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: where being out of your comfort zone,
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  SPEAKER_02: being in a new place is so joyful for you.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  Changing up your worldview,
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  being in a place where you don't speak the language.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's like, that's like joy juice.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: That is joy juice.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: I love, well, there it is.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love how seen I feel every time I talk to you.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's so nice.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice to feel seen.
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  I think that's one of the things that's so beautiful about the
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  work that you do is
• 33:40
  that you really are seeing people and seeing them for their
• 33:43
  unique placement on
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: this beautiful planet.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I love how everyone is unique.
• 33:49
  Like the time I was born,
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  the place I was born,
• 33:52
  where I was born,
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  it all matters.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know why?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I matter.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because who
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: whoever's listening to this right now matters.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that is the, that's the joyful conversation, right?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: We are so over time, but I will tell you.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm so sorry.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think I kept you.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: There's no rules,
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: but I just realized that,
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: we try to keep it to a certain length,
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: but we had to go because this was a joyous conversation.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: This is so much fun.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you both so much.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Rachel,
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: I know that on Substack,
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: you're Rachel Lang Astrology,
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: but where can people meet you and,
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: connect with you?
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm on all the social medias.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on Rachel Lang Official on threads, Instagram, TikTok.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: My email or my website is rachellangastrologer.com.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: And your social security number?
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: And my social security number, 555-555.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 34:46
  and I encourage you to subscribe to Rachel here on Substack
• 34:54
  because I get your
• 34:55
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• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I know what's happening with the planets and what's going on.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's all fantastic.
• 35:00
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• 35:03
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• 35:05
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• 35:11
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• 35:18
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• 35:25
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• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Rachel.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: And thank you all for joining us on the Joy Jolt.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.