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Nancy Guthrie, Epstein Files, Olympics with Guy Branum · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of
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  Speaker 4: our favorites. I've known him forever. The hilarious writer, actor, model, commentator,
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  Speaker 4: the world.
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  Speaker 2: Guy Branum, welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 5: I've been focusing on my modeling work recently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking good.
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  Speaker 5: I was in Milan for Fashion Week and then had
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  Speaker 5: to leave before the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, well, and there's so much going on with the
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  Speaker 4: Olympics that you just, let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 2: This guy.
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  Speaker 4: Thank gosh he's American.
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  Speaker 2: He won the gold, right? He's broken all, what is
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  Speaker 2: his name?
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  Speaker 5: Ilya.
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  Speaker 4: I just have this photo of him because I saw
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  Speaker 4: him everywhere, but he is male figure skater single and
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  Speaker 4: he won the gold for that.
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  Speaker 2: And he did a quad, four twirls.
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  Speaker 5: He won the gold for the team. And then he's
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  Speaker 5: going back to see if he'll win the individual medal.
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  Speaker 5: But it's just so exciting that like, Just months after
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  Speaker 5: getting a famous blonde Ilya in heated rivalry, we have
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  Speaker 5: another Ilya who is, you know, on the ground in
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  Speaker 5: Milan winning gold medals.
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  Speaker 4: And breaking a record in that he did seven quads.
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  Speaker 4: Meaning he got up there, went once around, two around,
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  Speaker 4: three around, four around, then came down.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And then did it. Six other times or something.
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  Speaker 5: I just, as a child of the 80s, it's really
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  Speaker 5: important for us to, like, win the medal count at
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  Speaker 5: the Olympics. It lets me know that America's doing okay.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about the gold medals breaking? They're
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  Speaker 2: like crap. Have you heard about this?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. No, people are filming that it's broken in half.
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  Speaker 4: And then so they like have to fix it. And
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  Speaker 4: then there was another one where they're like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 4: since yours broke, here's another.
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  Speaker 2: Your name isn't on it. So you'll just have to go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, so this person has to get home and
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  Speaker 4: go to like some trophy shop. and pay whatever, how
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  Speaker 4: much ever it's gonna be and then what if they
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  Speaker 4: get the name wrong and now you have a gold
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  Speaker 4: medal with the wrong, I mean like.
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  Speaker 5: Also you worked your whole life to get this thing
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  Speaker 5: and then your life will never be as good again.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 5: Like this is supposed to be the best thing. But
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  Speaker 5: it does make me worry about the bigger problem of
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  Speaker 5: like no one makes money from the Olympics anymore and
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  Speaker 5: the Olympics are bad for your town and I worry
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  Speaker 5: about our poor Los Angeles in two years, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Geez, right, well I do think you'll wanna go to things.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when we have the Olympics here.
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  Speaker 5: My friend Jason was like, you're going to want to
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  Speaker 5: see who like the opening ceremonies are going to be good. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, those will be good bookings, you know, like
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  Speaker 5: it's Los Angeles. Everyone lives here. You're going to get
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  Speaker 5: very famous people. But part of me is like, should
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  Speaker 5: we all just be making a bunch of money off
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  Speaker 5: of Airbnb?
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  Speaker 4: Well, would you like to talk to a native Angeleno
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  Speaker 4: like me who lived here during 84?
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  Speaker 2: OK, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: There wasn't even a way, you know, if people were
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  Speaker 4: renting their house, I guess they were putting it in
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  Speaker 4: ads or something because we didn't have Airbnb. But so
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  Speaker 4: many people thought the traffic would be so awful and everything.
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  Speaker 4: They left and went on their European vacations and Hawaii
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  Speaker 4: and everything. And people did allow their houses to be
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  Speaker 4: rented out. And the traffic was deader than any time.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
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  Speaker 4: We were able to go to, We went to some
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  Speaker 4: like running and stuff, you know, you know, we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: get the good one like gymnastics. But now I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of a lot of pressure because when it happens,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, you know, an older established person
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  Speaker 4: like I could spend a lot of money.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And get cool tickets and have that experience like I
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  Speaker 4: can afford to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But like, do I want to?
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  Speaker 5: So the question is, what connections do you have? You know,
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  Speaker 5: the question is always, I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Like, will the LA connect? Will, will they make it that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, no, we got to make it fair and
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  Speaker 4: you can't buy the ticket. I don't know how they're
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  Speaker 4: going to do it, how they're going to get around
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  Speaker 4: the LA red tape where the agency has, you know,
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  Speaker 4: your agent has like 30 tickets and who gets those
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  Speaker 4: and who hands this on like kind of regular person,
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  Speaker 4: just have a good experience going to the Olympics in LA.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. But also I hadn't thought about it until this moment,
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  Speaker 5: but like the gay bars are gonna be off the
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  Speaker 5: hook for that week. Like it's just gonna be full
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  Speaker 5: of Romanian gymnasts.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think they'll still, do you think Sur will
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  Speaker 4: finally be full? Can they hang on two more years?
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  Speaker 5: I think so. It's an amazing business venture. Honestly, every
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  Speaker 5: time I've ever been to Sur, they were doing a
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  Speaker 5: nice business.
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  Speaker 4: And I wonder what reality shows that shoot in LA
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  Speaker 4: will be filming during the Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: That could be a good- That would be amazing. That
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  Speaker 2: would be good. And then you watch it six months later.
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  Speaker 5: To have Real Housewives of Beverly Hills having a real
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  Speaker 5: load-bearing scene- at Olympic tennis would be amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Or having one of the, cause there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: like next gen, um, LA, which is like the younger kids.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think Heather Dubrow's son will be in it
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. And so if they're filming that and, or sir,
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  Speaker 4: or a Vanderpump or whatever, and then like someone like
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  Speaker 4: is like, I just fucked like, yes, I was going
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  Speaker 4: to say a Bob's letter, but they wouldn't be here
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  Speaker 4: for the LA Olympics.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I just like, I just fucked. I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: A male gymnast.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's wonderful. Like when that guy from love Island
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  Speaker 5: came and was having sex with, was it Lisa Rinna's daughter?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. What was that?
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  Speaker 5: Yes. There was like one of the guys from love
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  Speaker 5: Island came and was like, um, Y'all, y'all, was having
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  Speaker 5: sex with one of the real housewives of Beverly Hills' daughter. And, like,
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  Speaker 5: that's a fun crossover. And, like, Bravo is part of
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  Speaker 5: the universal family. Like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So ice skating is every girls' and gays' favorite sport. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I always felt like the Bob, the getting in
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  Speaker 4: the little thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I always was like, if I could just be like
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  Speaker 4: number two or three, then I think it's pretty easy.
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  Speaker 5: In the bobsled.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The bobsled. Cause I'm not pushing it and jumping
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  Speaker 2: in last.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just in it. Yes. And then just like say
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  Speaker 2: a prayer. I think I could do that.
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  Speaker 4: And, um, that's it. I couldn't do any other sports.
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  Speaker 4: And so with ice skating, there's couple skating, which I love.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But then there's like the other thing, which is like
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  Speaker 4: just like more casual ice skate.
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  Speaker 5: Ice dancing?
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it as much as traditional couple dance,
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  Speaker 4: couple ice skating.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Because they can't do the jumps. I really love ice dancing.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that this year was really exciting because,
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  Speaker 5: you know, back in like the 1980s and stuff, they
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  Speaker 5: were doing very ballroom style, bolero, that kind of thing. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And all of the ice dancers are a married couple
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  Speaker 5: doing the gayest possible dance. One of them does Vogue.
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  Speaker 5: I heard 100% pure love. These are, it sounds like pride.
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  Speaker 5: But I also feel like something is lost because back
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  Speaker 5: in the day, you had to look at it and
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  Speaker 5: be like, oh, this is super gay, but they don't
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  Speaker 5: realize it. And now you're watching it and you're like,
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  Speaker 5: this is super gay and they know it. And they're
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  Speaker 5: probably very devout Mormons.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them are married couples. That's so funny.
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  Speaker 5: What was like somebody posted to her Instagram like when
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  Speaker 5: you're 11 years old and this boy asks you to
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  Speaker 5: be his dance partner, say yes. And it's like you
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  Speaker 5: guys have been working together professionally since you were like
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  Speaker 5: 11 or whatever. And you also fell in love. That
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  Speaker 5: feels weird.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's nothing like kind of crazier than when
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  Speaker 4: you do see the ballroom dancers dancing. And like the
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  Speaker 4: boy is like shorter than the girl, but they're like eight.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And he's just so intentional. There's just something you're like.
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  Speaker 2: What am I watching?
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  Speaker 5: It teaches a weird kind of confidence that I don't understand.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then how does that even begin?
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  Speaker 4: Like, OK, you're going to be doing you're going to
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  Speaker 4: get into dance as a boy, but you're going to
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  Speaker 4: be dancing like you're a 50 year old, you know, Cuban.
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  Speaker 5: A mom just has to decide. A mom just has to, like,
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  Speaker 5: put that upon. Like, I mean, your boys pretty much
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  Speaker 5: ended up going into just like the things that Peter did. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Golf. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: that was cool.
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  Speaker 4: And then also this guy that's just came out today,
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  Speaker 4: he won a medal, I think for skiing, he's Norwegian.
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  Speaker 2: And then after they're like, how are you feeling? And
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  Speaker 2: he's like, it's great. I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 4: It's been an incredible time. And three months ago I
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  Speaker 4: met the greatest girl in the world. And then I
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  Speaker 4: cheated on her and he admitted there, like in the interviews,
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  Speaker 4: it's all over that he And then one of the
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  Speaker 4: comments was like, I don't understand this Gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: Like, why are you telling this on the biggest moment
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  Speaker 2: of your life?
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  Speaker 5: That's an amazing rom-com moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I have one chance to win my girl back.
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  Speaker 5: And you don't win her back if you get the bronze. Like,
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  Speaker 5: if I win the gold.
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  Speaker 2: And admit I'm a fuck up.
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  Speaker 5: And admit I'm a fuck up. Then she might come back.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So the missing Nancy Guthrie story, as of we're recording
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  Speaker 4: this Tuesday, what day are we?
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  Speaker 2: The 10th?
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  Speaker 5: 11th?
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  Speaker 2: No, is this the 10th?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday the 10th.
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  Speaker 4: And they did release a photo, which is a masked
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  Speaker 4: man that they did, I guess, was able to catch
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  Speaker 4: something on the Ring camera. I've heard so many different
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  Speaker 4: things that the Ring cameras were shut down or they
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  Speaker 4: used some jammer.
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  Speaker 2: They were able to retrieve this photo. They put it everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: And it just looks to be a man. It looks
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  Speaker 4: like there's the space between the mask and the eyes
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  Speaker 4: looks to be white.
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  Speaker 2: So he appears to be white. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know.
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  Speaker 5: It's just very terrifying. Like it's Savannah Guthrie. Like it's
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  Speaker 5: not the most famous or wealthy person in the world. Like,
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  Speaker 5: why are you just like, oh, I know where a
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  Speaker 5: medium-famous person's mom is? Like, that is very creepy to me.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the story is a crazy distraction because there's
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  Speaker 4: so many elements to wonder which theory is right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And right now, the theories are, one, that it was.
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  Speaker 4: Just a random person that knew that she was a
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  Speaker 4: wealthy woman or had a wealthy famous daughter and kidnapped
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  Speaker 4: her and is doing the ransom note. And we don't
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  Speaker 4: know who this person is. And is that person, someone
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  Speaker 4: who worked on the house six months ago and I'm
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  Speaker 4: planning this, is this someone who lives down the street?
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  Speaker 2: Who's like a weirdo?
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  Speaker 4: Um, is it, is it, it's somewhat sophisticated cause they
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  Speaker 4: bought these, this thing called a jammer, which I now,
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  Speaker 4: I guess a lot of criminals are able to do
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  Speaker 4: and it like turns off the surveillance or something. The
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  Speaker 4: next is, does it have anything to do with the
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  Speaker 4: fact that she is on the Today Show, that she
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  Speaker 4: has interviewed Epstein victims? I made a mistake on my
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  Speaker 4: last episode. I said that I heard the son-in-law worked
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  Speaker 4: for this company that scrubs the internet and also worked
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  Speaker 4: for the Clintons. No, it was Savannah's husband that did that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: So with the Clintons being involved with the Epstein stuff
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  Speaker 4: or agreeing to be questioned, does that have anything to
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  Speaker 4: do with it? And then the third story is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: was it somebody that knew her? Her sister and brother-in-law
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  Speaker 4: live close by. They had a meal with her that night.
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  Speaker 4: The brother-in-law was the last to drop her off, had
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  Speaker 4: her walk in, saw her walk.
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  Speaker 2: Into the.
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  Speaker 4: Is there something there that we don't know about? You know,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not I don't want to accuse the brother
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  Speaker 4: in law. But the theories going around is if it
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  Speaker 4: was somebody like a family member, either them or someone else,
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  Speaker 4: could it be that, you know, she was supporting them
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  Speaker 4: or they were stealing from her or she said, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going to pay for this anymore or she discovered something.
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  Speaker 4: And then they're like, oh, my God, I can't let
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  Speaker 4: this get out. So those are the three theories. And honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea which one it is.
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  Speaker 5: I just think it's so hard that when people are
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  Speaker 5: going through something like this, randos are speculating.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's bad. But, I mean, you are a famous person.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And it's a crime. We did it with
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  Speaker 2: the Idaho Four until we knew who did it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it just gets you wondering.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and also, like, so much of the time, it
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  Speaker 5: really is somebody who is connected over somebody who... who
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  Speaker 5: isn't connected my biggest problem is just that it used
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  Speaker 5: to be that to be good at crime you just
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  Speaker 5: had to be strong and have no remorse and now
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  Speaker 5: it requires so many tech skills and it's worrying to.
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  Speaker 4: Me yeah i mean i know like so much of
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  Speaker 4: the tech stuff is like like in some ways tech
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  Speaker 4: made it easier to like cheat on your spouse right
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  Speaker 4: yes you could have an extra phone you could have
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  Speaker 4: But in another way, it makes it that you can't
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  Speaker 4: because everything can be tracked.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Your home can have, you know, cameras on it.
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  Speaker 4: So if you had like a rendezvous with somebody, you know,
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  Speaker 4: your spouse could see it. You know, it's just like
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  Speaker 4: it's a weird time.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and there's also the weird way that like there
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  Speaker 5: is so much violence in our society that is like
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  Speaker 5: random and directionless. that something like this can almost feel
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  Speaker 5: like hokey or old school. They're just like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're kidnapping a rich person to try to like.
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  Speaker 4: They're kidnapping the 84 year old mother of like the, like,
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  Speaker 4: the most likable girl on the today show. Like the
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  Speaker 4: whole thing, it literally does.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it's out of like a Batman movie.
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  Speaker 2: It feels so weird.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's why everyone's just like, where, what
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  Speaker 4: is happening in the world? Like, this is such a
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  Speaker 4: weird story and such a strange story. And it's been
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  Speaker 4: over a week now. And I just wonder like, will
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  Speaker 4: we ever have an answer? And I, I feel so
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  Speaker 4: badly for them.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and it also just like, I never fully understood
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  Speaker 5: what the story with the Lindbergh baby was, but like
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  Speaker 5: just the notion of mid-level famous people having to be
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  Speaker 5: more worried about somebody, you know, it's like, maybe we
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't snag kids or old people.
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  Speaker 4: And I just don't know that an old person has
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  Speaker 4: ever been kidnapped before. That's the weirdest thing. It's like
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  Speaker 4: no one's ever thought of it. And now I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 4: is this like going to give someone a new idea
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  Speaker 4: of what you could do to somehow like make money?
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  Speaker 2: It's just awful. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, getting back to the Super Bowl, this story
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  Speaker 4: I did not know about. This guy was streaked or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Which is where he didn't get fully naked. He just
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  Speaker 2: had like a shirt off.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: And the story behind it is he bet, he put
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: it out a bet or created a bet that someone
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: will streak. And then he had, he had the meta
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: glasses on. So you could see his point of view
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: of running around. He had a friend, I guess, do
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: some distraction so he could get on it. So now
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: there's a streak. So now he's due for the, to
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: gain the money. And then he did it a couple
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: of years ago in a different streaking outfit. The good
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: news is his body got better in the last two years,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: the body got better. And so I'm like, I don't
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: really understand. I know there's so much betting and everything.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And now I hear these betting commercials and they're like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: put your prediction in. So they're like calling it prediction
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: instead of betting. And, um, But I mean, I don't
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: know what the rules are. This isn't, I mean, betting
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: is betting.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Like, I am just happy that that man tackled him.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Like we are just going viral has made it so
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: incentivized for people to like prank each other or do
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: stupid shit. And you hear about, you know, all of
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: these people who are like trying to get a photo
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: and then die or, you know, or like surprise that
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: when they break the law to do something zany and
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: That they actually have legal consequences. I've always said that
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: pranks are just crimes committed by heterosexual white teenagers.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Remember all the prank shows? Remember the Ashton Kutcher prank shows?
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: I wrote for that one.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: What were some that you did?
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: The thing is, it was so terrible.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: They had- So it was celebrity, remind people, it was
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: hidden camera.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: It was hidden camera and it was celebrities. And the
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: season I was on, they had hired writers, but then
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: it hadn't worked. And then they let them all go.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: And then it was me and, like, three other guys.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: And I was informed by Ashton Kutcher's producing partner that
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I was the female writer. And I was like, you
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: know that there are women, don't you, who could write
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: for this show? So the ones that I was responsible
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: for was, like, Demi Lovato heard a ghost. Some girl, like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: it was the golden age of we did something mean
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: to– the car of a girl who was in Twilight.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Everyone was from Twilight or High School Musical. And then
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: I think a High School Musical girl, she went to
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: a yogurt shop and the yogurt wouldn't stop coming out.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, so those are pretty innocent.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: But there were a couple really awful ones where I
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: want to say it was with Taylor.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Was it Taylor Swift? And she.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Like, they're like, oh, whatever. Throw this thing off the
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: balcony or whatever.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: And they blew it up. That was the beginning of
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: the season I worked on.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And then they acted like it blew up a boat
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: or something. And then she thought she hurt someone. Yes.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: That is, like, awful.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: They were so proud of that. And I was just like,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: who is this for? What's fun about this?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I remember there was one with, like, Ellen Pimpale.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And she has.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I think she's still with him, but her husband is
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: this good looking black guy. And it was that like
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the waitress was overly flirting with him and like to
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: get her reaction. Now that I think is kind of cute.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Like that's not terrible.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: My favorite thing about our season was every actress in
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles was only going to Cafe Gratitude at that
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: point in time. And Cafe Gratitude was like, you only
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: get two pranks here. So we had to figure out
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: other places to go because we could not plausibly get
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: young actresses to go to a dinner anywhere but Cafe Gratitude.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Which is like this terrible vegan run by a cult place,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: which is honestly kind of good.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Does it still exist? Yes, on Larchmont. Oh, amazing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: You've never been?
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: No.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: It's the place where you famously have to order by
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: saying like, I am peaceful or I am generous.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Oh really? Oh my God. That is ridiculous.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: That is, that's very funny. Um, okay. Cardi B. Did
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you hear what happened to her?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: So her baby daddy, so she has the three kids
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: with Offset, who I think she was married to. Then
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: she fell in love with this guy, Stefan Diggs, who
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: plays for the Patriots and had his baby. And she
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: planned a million dollar party, like after party or whatever.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: But then she realized that his other baby mama, who
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: has a baby around the same age as hers, was insane.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: In the front row with the baby, with the baby
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: wearing the jersey. And so then she got all pissed,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: didn't go to the party. He didn't go to the party.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: She left the game and stopped following him.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, you have to have some sense of generosity
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: and responsibility when there's another child involved, you know?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, but when they're the same age, it makes
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: it hard. No, 100%. I mean, talk to all the
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Nick Cannon people. Yes. Yes.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Like, I get that it feels weird, and I get
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: that you want a sense of being proprietary, but also, like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you're very famous, and your kid is going to get
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: to be the very famous one for all of time.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: And that kid gets to watch his dad, like, even
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: though he's young enough to not be sentient.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, yeah, it's a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: little kid.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: He needs to have the memories of, like— No.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was just being a jealous girl.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's hands down. It has to do with
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the woman. It has to do with the— I get that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: And the thing is, is like, I want Cardi B
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: to be too much. I want her to have fights
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and everything like that. But I also think you need
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: to separate like business and family to some extent, you know?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: before bed. Or two, you know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody's watching.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: You deserve a treat. With eight flavours to choose from,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you can choose the flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: He said, I have a work dad.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: I need a home dad.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: What happens next?
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: happens next.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Listen, Dar, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, so talk shows are not doing well. They canceled
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Sherri Shepherd. Kelly Clarkson, whose show is very successful, she's
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: choosing to end it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Of course, Wendy Williams, you know, that has been around
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: a long time. What's your thought about the ending talk
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: show era?
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I don't understand how they can't continue to make daytime
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: talk shows profitable. Like, it does just seem to be, like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: an area where you do still have people watching. Like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: it kills me because I love talk shows. Like, we
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: worked on a talk show together. Like, they're a part
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: of TV that I really like and enjoy. But also,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I'm interested to hear your thoughts because... This is what
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: is taking their place. Like basically.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: That's so they were saying this article or what article
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I read was like, Oh, people don't have the, um,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: the attention span to sit through an hour long talk show,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: but then why are.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: There three hours of Joe Rogan and two hours?
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: And this is an hour and 20 minute, uh, on
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: YouTube and, and everything else kind of talk. I mean,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I just feel that the audience that was the talk
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: show audience, uh, They grew up, and the new person
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: that would maybe have watched it now, like a 30-year-old
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: that's home and it's the daytime, it's just not their jam.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: It's so weird because I think those morning shows particularly
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: are like a check-in with the world. The view into
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: a lesser extent, Kelly and Mark, I would think that
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: people would still want that, but maybe podcasts are better
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: at it. And also, podcasts are less filtered. you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: you don't have a producer who is like overly managing
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: what the questions are in the same way. Though, I mean,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: with something like Amy Poehler's show, it does feel like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: you know, they've probably agreed about what's talked about or
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: what's not talked about. But also it's just like you
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: can have like a tighter turnaround and you can talk
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: about realer issues.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just think that the reason podcasts do
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: really well is you find your few people that you
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: love and vibe with and maybe, and most likely they
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: think like you, like they're like, Oh, you're my best
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: friend in my head, whatever. And people really actually want
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: to listen and spend their time with people that they
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: vibe with. And so the talk show thing, whether it
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: was the talk or the view or whatever, it's like, Oh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: let's have five, three.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Different views and let's have this.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: And I don't really think people want to hear a
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: view that doesn't match their own.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a problem. Yeah, it is a problem.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Because people are always like, I need, you know, if
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: they say they want their favorite celebrity to speak on
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: something and someone said, I don't think you.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Want my opinion.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: You want my, you want to know my opinion so
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: that you can either know that I think like you
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: and if I don't. then you have a reason to
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: like be angry, but you really don't want to know
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: my opinion.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it was something like that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I think that's, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: why you can find your, your niche, you know, find
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: your person.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But, I don't know. I mean, I think just it's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: about life.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Like I joked with Chris the other day that like
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: we kind of we like going to hotels because it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: like old fashioned TV.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: That's what I do watch this stuff. Right.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, like my favorite thing about going on
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: the road is watching like old school TV.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: And just like get like watching a bunch of guys
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: grocery games or something like that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: It's like comforting or like.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Or the way the room's set up so I can
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: do my hair and makeup while I'm watching some morning show.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I used to host games for Kelly Clarkson on a
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: pretty regular basis, and it was such a fun vibe.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, for the talk show?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Yes, and getting to watch celebrities play outside of their
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: comfort zone. And I also think we're destroying a promotional
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: infrastructure for TV and film that is bad. That used
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: to be where you learned, oh, Jack Black has a
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: new movie. I want to see that movie.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know that podcasts are as effective.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: They're definitely not. Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: It's like I saw, there is this, in my little
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: like shopping cute area where there's a movie theater, there's
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: like this poster around a light pole and the movie
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: came out December 12th and it's, who's the girl in
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Devil Wears Prada?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Anne Hathaway?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Anne Hathaway and it's called like Emma Jones
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It came out December 12th.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Yes. Has anyone even heard of that movie? I'm like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: how did this come and go? This is a major
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: movie star and it's a.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: New York movie.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: The poster is her trying to put on her heel.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a classic like dry bar movie, but.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Is that Anne Hathaway?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Like, I think that is the James L. Brooks movie
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: that starred someone who I think looks like Anne Hathaway.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Well, whatever. Nobody watched this thing.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: It was star studded and that movie was famously bad.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So it was the guy who made like Terms of
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Endearment and stuff, but now he's like 80. And he's
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: been like a Simpsons billionaire for like 30 years now.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: And apparently like it was just untethered from reality.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't know about
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: these things. That's what I'm saying. Like, you're right.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: It would normally be the same person come around.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: You wear the outfit. It's seven minutes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Now it just seems like a seven minute interview just
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: seems like, So dumb and short.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: And the thing is, there's nothing real that happens. There's
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: nothing real that happens. I just went and Mark Shaman,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: the guy who wrote music for, like, when Harry Met Sally,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: and he wrote Hairspray, but he released a book, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: he talked to Bette Midler, and they were talking about
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: when Bette did the last Johnny Carson, and he, like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: arranged the music for her and played with her.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But just, like.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: You had those iconic moments from talk shows where something
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: really real and exciting happened. And like publicists have made
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: that impossible for the last 20 years. Like talk shows
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: have been boring. When people say something interesting, they say
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: it on a podcast.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I feel bad for Sherri Shepherd, except that she never
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: had me on, so I don't feel that bad. Neither
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: did Kelly Clarkson. But Kelly Clarkson doesn't need the show
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and she's moving on. It started in LA and then
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: it moved to New York.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Yes I think this is like Kelly Clarkson figured out
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: how to make that show about the stuff that she
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: is good at and loves to do in a way
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: that was like every day she would cover somebody else's
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: song and sing it better than they ever have and
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: like it was cool to have somebody who wasn't a
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: comic and made it about like her skill set and
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: her honesty and I think that the type of television
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: that requires the greatest degree of sincerity is cooking show.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: But I think daytime talk show is very close. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: like cooking show, every time I see Valerie Bertinelli, I'm like,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I believe it. And when I see Faith Hill or
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: whoever it was who had a cooking... There was one
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: of those country ladies at a cooking show, and I'm like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not buying it. But fucking Valerie Bertinelli, I'm like,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I believe it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: But, you know, now I wonder, like, have we talked about,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you know, missing old school TV and people just, like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: missing the simpler stuff and people saying, like, I don't
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: know what's real on my phone anymore and, like, I
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: need to put down my phone. I wonder if there
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: could be, like... a resurgence of it I think so
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: because like of just a simple let me just watch
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: you make a dish I like I didn't work for
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Meghan Markle but whatever that's.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Because it wasn't sincere like you knew that that wasn't
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: her real house like she was being like too put
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: together and too prim about how her life you know
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: she was taking pretzels out of one plastic bag and
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: putting it into a different plastic bag um but like
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: I watch the Graham Norton show so much because he
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: does he like he's fun and alive. And he puts
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: celebrities who shouldn't be on a couch together on a
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: couch together and they interact and they have fun. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: it's a good time.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I just was thinking about the rest in peace, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Meghan Markle show with the, with those pretzel that are
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: filled with peanut butter thing.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That whole idea is, was just so funny.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Cause it was like, she had this guy come where
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: she had to act like they were best friends or
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: he was her hairdresser. And then she's like, And I
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: put a whole basket together for his room.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: He's spending the night. And it's just like such, it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: was just such, it's such a weird thing.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: And then it's like, well, no, we know he's not
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: spending the night because this is like not your house.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And then we're supposed to pretend that he's just going
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: to sit in the room like a fucking mouse and
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: eat these pretzels.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Three separate times she cut up raw fruit or vegetables
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: and put it on a platter. And that was what
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: she did. Like three separate times she made just a
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: crudité plate And that was what she did. And I
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: know that they're trying to be like, oh, I'm not
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: trying to be too fancy. I'm just being approachable. One
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: pot pasta. But it's like, you're not being approachable. Your
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: whole point is that you're a duchess and you have
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: your own bees. And I don't for a minute believe
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: that she has her own bees. Fucking Martha has her
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: own bees. Like Martha, you know, like she has her
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: own bees. And you know, one of my favorite moments
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: from all of television is It was Cooking with Julia Child.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: It was a series on PBS. And Martha came on
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: to make a wedding cake. And Julia Child said to her,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: that seems like a lot of work. Like, Julia Child
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: was like, that just seems like too much work.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I agree that it was all these extra steps. You
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: were like, what?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Like right before Martha got there, it was like, there
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: was the era of, oh my God, you could.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Buy a cake box.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: You can, you know, there's all the, there was all
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: the helper stuff. Like my mom still made meals, but
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: there was like, there literally was hamburger helper.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: There was this, there was that. And then we got
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to like doing it yourself. And now people are making
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: their own bread.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: When the saying in life was, you know, it's nothing's
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: as great as sliced bread. There's a reason someone said
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: that because they didn't want to make bread anymore. And
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: now these women are like flexing. They're like, my man
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: knows how to make a good living so that I
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: can stay home and make bread.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? I mean, go to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the store and buy a loaf of bread.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Have you seen the woman who's like, my children have
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: never had pop tarts and I wanted them to try
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: pop tarts or like Doritos or whatever. And then she
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: makes Doritos from scratch.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: But like with, you know, like, emmer wheat and maple sugar.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: And it's like, well, that's, that's not going to be Cheerios.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even think anybody in real life
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: is doing that. That doesn't have a huge internet following.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the whole point.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: No one's really doing that. I'm doing it for videos.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: You're being ridiculous and you're performing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: There, there is this sort of like, oh, I just
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: have the time to, you know, make my own ricotta
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: from scratch. So that's what I'm doing out here on
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the farm. And it's like, been to a farm. That's
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: not how farms work.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's, it's, it's crazy.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see what happens with them. Sherry, I'm sure
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Sherry Shefford will have a podcast, you know, in, in
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: six months.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. A couple little things coming up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Well now, thank goodness. Some major mainstream media is starting
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: to cover what is in The Department of Justice files.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: They're going to drop more.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: They were redacting names and they put six back.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And one was the Wexler guy. I'm like, tell us something.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: We did it now.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Were you a little sad that your name wasn't there anywhere?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: I was a little bit like, I just want to
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: feel famous enough that like I'm in some sort of
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: thing that shows up. Les Wexner is like the least
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: interesting thing.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Wexner, that's it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: It's like we already knew that he was heavily connected
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: with this guy. And also, Les Wexner does not want
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: to have sex with women. Les Wexner has a wife.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That's the guy who owns the Victoria's Secret and everything?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Yes. And the rumor is that a young Jeffrey Epstein
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Took care of him and then stole money from him.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: And then Les Wexner had to be OK with it
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: or else he Jeffrey Epstein would reveal that they had
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: had sex with each other. And I think that that's amazing. Right.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: And then the things that are coming in, the things
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: that are coming out, unfortunately, are just like really, really gross.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: And I don't I want to say I don't think
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: it's amazing in a good way. I'm just stunned. by
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the level of operation that Jeffrey Epstein had from, like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: from jump. Like, that he was always swindling. But yes, it, like,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: it is... truly gross and it's very funny seeing everybody
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: being like oh well yes i just had some dinners
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: with him i wasn't one of the ones who was
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: going for hand jobs to the one that we all
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: knew was the desert island hand job guy.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Well of course we knew andrew prince andrew was involved
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: now there's new emails in which he and sarah are
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: writing jeffrey epstein and they're talking about their life and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: everything with him. And they are, at one point they
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: sent photos of the daughters, not naked or anything, but
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: just here are the girls.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You asked to see them here. They are.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: And I mean, maybe their argument, maybe a Sarah Ferguson
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: argument was like, I never knew that he was doing
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: anything nefarious.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I just thought he was a rich friend.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: But in hers, she was even like, I know there
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: was one that she's like, I know that, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: the Duke and I are no longer together, but I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: feel like you're ignoring me.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Like, I love you. We're friends.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Did you see the one where she was just like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: I need 20,000 pounds?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: No, what's that one?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: She was like, I'm behind on rent. I need 20,000 pounds.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: If there's anything you could do about it or something
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: along those lines.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So that's why she's like being nice. And did he
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: give it to her? I don't know.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: But it is this thing of like, is... Is that
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: how you just are expected or have to live when
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: you're like a member of the royal family and you
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: have all of these famous friends or these very wealthy friends,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: but you yourself do not have a great source of income? I,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: of course, learned most of what I know about the
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: sources of income from the like 1989 TV movie about
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Sarah Ferguson.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Sarah Ferguson was married to Prince Andrew. They got divorced
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: after they got divorced. Everyone, she became super popular because
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: she was seen as the heavier princess.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: And she wasn't even heavy.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: But then she lost some weight.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: She got a Weight Watchers deal, I think.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. And everyone was like, she's so relatable. So then
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: she comes to America.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I was in testing rooms to do talk shows with her,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to be like regulars on talk shows.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, she's also begging Jeffrey Epstein for $ 20, 000 and sending
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: photos of her daughter so that, like, he'll—I don't know.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And then the.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Amount of people that— there' s a couple other really weird ones
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: where it was this guy, Howard Lutnick, who is— what is
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: his role?
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Secretary of Commerce.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And he said, under oath, I never talked to him
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: after he was convicted of— of the first round of crimes.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: But then they found in the emails that they were
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: writing back and forth and he's like, hey, let's hang
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: out on Sunday. Tell me where the captain's supposed to
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: park the yacht on Evershed Island. I'm with another couple
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: and he names their name. And he said, we each
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: have four children with us. And then he gives all
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: the ages. And so I immediately start Googling, did they
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: have kids those ages? And from what I have discovered,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: they did. So it was their kids. Now, does that
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: make it worse or were they being like normal people?
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: That when they go to a single man's place, they're like, hey,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: we have our kids with us.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Is that okay?
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: These are their ages. Like, are you okay with this
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: many kids? Or should we leave them on the yacht?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it's just hard to understand how people understood this guy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: He's just, like, how much of a reputation... Like, because
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: his reputation was as, like, the party dude, right?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Right. But it, like.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: But also just like, oh, when you're taking your yacht
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: to St. Bart's, this is one of the places that
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: you stop off at. You go and you say hi
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: to Jeffrey. Like, I don't understand like what, what interest
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: he had for them if they weren't interested.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: In that kind of thing. And it is such an
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: interesting sort of like overlap between the era when no
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: one could find out about stuff like this and the
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: era of being able to like effortlessly search those files,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: It's overwhelming.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I've just seen so many things and all the, the
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: stories of, you know, did like when people talked about
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: like Illuminati or what people do to stay famous and like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: you're like.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know, did they really do this weird shit?
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Were they under the impression that if they Did these
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: sick demonic things that it keeps them at the top
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: of the totem pole of fame and wealth forever?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Like, like, I don't I don't know how many sick
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: demonic things were like, I mean, I think rape is
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: sick and demonic. But like, I just assumed that it
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: was like, no.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: There's stuff in there. That's like what you think.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Eating babies, what it tastes like on the yachts. Yes. Yes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: And so it's like, no, that's what I don't think
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: people are realizing. And I didn't realize it when I
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: talked about it last week.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Like it's so weird.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: It's so awful and so weird. And, you know, then
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: there's the ones that are just like, like there was
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: one that, um, that actually my Brandon found and this
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: guy is like, I'm a comedian telling you who this
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: comic is.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So you read it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: And of course the, in it, the guy, the comedian says,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: it was so great that you came to the show.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the great dinner. Really enjoyed the conversation.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: If you're interested, I'll be at this comedy club on
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: this weekend at this time in a month or whatever.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: So someone was able to look at the date of
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: when this was written, go a month ahead, look at
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: the comedy club. Cause he says the city in the
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: club and they're like, we know who's performing there.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And in this particular one.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: That's all over TikTok, it was, I don't care, it
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: was Bobby Slayton who was performing at that weekend.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: If you read it, it doesn't say, I can't wait
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: to go on the island with you. It doesn't say
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: anything like that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Which means it could have been, oh my God, he
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: was such an interesting guy.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: He knows all these famous people. He's best friends with
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Woody Allen. Maybe he said, I want to put you
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: in a Woody Allen movie.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck knows?
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Maybe there was a tier level to Jeffrey Epstein friendships.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Like at Platinum Plus, you get to eat babies. At
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: just Platinum, you get to sex traffic women. But then
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: there was just sort of like.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: You could have a dinner and maybe get thrown a bone.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, the ad-supported tier is you get to hang out
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: with Woody Allen and Sunyi.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't... It's a lot. And then Ghislaine said,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the fifth. Like, I'm not going to say
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: anything until I know that I have a better deal.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Like... That's insane. That woman is terrible. But also.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: But I mean, can you blame her? She's the only
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: one behind bars. She's like, I better play these cards right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I don't want to sit in this prison for the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: rest of my life. I either want to get sent
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: to a nicer one or I want to get out.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: So I think she's trying to figure out how to
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I just don't understand how all these billionaires couldn't figure
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: out how to get handjobs with their billions of dollars.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: And also... Why not get handjobs from people who know
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: what they're doing?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I think that that's why I'm like, I try to
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: think about what is in their brains, you know?
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I do think it is when you're like a level
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: of rich where you can have anything.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You can have anything. That's exactly it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: People want the thing that they can't have.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: And then it goes back, if you really want to
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: go down rabbit holes, to like, these five families that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: are truly like running the world and the banking and
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: all of that. And then you really went from, you know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Getty's Rothschilds, whatever. And you're like, is this, is this
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: really true today? Like what is the connection?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: But then you want, it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Also ends up on the doorstep of like deep antisemitism,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Right. And then there's that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: It's so much. So there's, here's a story from the
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: California post. West Hollywood lawyer turned OnlyFans creator arrested in
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Miami gay cruise drug bust. I mean, that is a
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: lot to take in. And then the description is a
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: redheaded L.A. lawyer turned OnlyFans star. Like they even add
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: add another layer to this story.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Do you know him?
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: I don't. What's his name?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: The thing is, is that like essentially.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Oh, wait.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: No, I do know him.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Do you really?
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Because he's a lawyer or because he is a redhead?
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: No, from Provincetown. Like, I met him there.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Did you know when you met him? Did you know
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: him as a lawyer or did you know him as
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: an OnlyFans talent?
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I knew him as just, like, a naked gay guy.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: But the thing is, like, one of my friends jokes that, like,
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: doing a drug raid as people were getting onto a
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: gay cruise is essentially entrapment. Like, that's what people are doing.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: This guy can't have his good time while drinking alcohol.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: How would he maintain those abs? He has to have
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: GHP and a little bit of meth there. But, like,
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: it's not... Yeah, like those cruises, I've never been on one.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I do think I would possibly kill myself if I
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: was on one. And I also see how.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: So have you been asked to perform or anything?
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: No, they've never asked me to perform or anything. And
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: I do think, like, it's a circuit party on a boat.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: So everyone is there, like, you know, it's those worked
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: out gay guys.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Julie does a lot of the cruises and performs. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: she says, and she went, when she was, She was snorkeling.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like, she said she was snorkeling.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. And that is where.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: She saw guys like blowing each other in the water
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: while she was looking for fishes.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Like that's how rampant it was.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: No.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Well, a couple of years ago, there was a thing
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: where two guys were having sex in their room and
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: somebody on land in Haiti saw it and they called
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: the authorities because gay sex is still illegal in Haiti
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: and So they're like the notion of being gay and
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: then going around the Caribbean comes with its own dangers
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: from a number of angles. But like, yeah, I mean,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: gay guys love having sex in public. Like it's just,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: you know, a thing. And like these like these cruises
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: are just, you know, it's it's just people doing drugs.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: It's people having sex and doing drugs with.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: These gay cruises. Is there like levels like.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: There's the one that's like lowbrow and younger and less expensive.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: And then you want to go on the nicer one,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: but the nicer one is just old rich gays.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: It's the amazing thing about the gay community is there
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: just aren't enough of us for there to be multiple levels.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Like there's just the one company. I know their name
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: and I'm not saying it, but there's like just the
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: one thing, like we don't even have like a Caribbean
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: or like they just opened a resort and, um, in, uh,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: not Cabo, what's the other one? Puerto Vallarta, in Puerto Vallarta.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: They just opened like an all gay resort in Puerto Vallarta,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: but like before that, there wasn't even just like a
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: resort that was ours because there aren't enough of us.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: But the important thing to take away from this is
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: that like, Every worked out gay lawyer and optometrist in Columbus,
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Ohio is just doing that so he can go and
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: like live a debauched life on a boat for one
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: week out of the year. Like all of those guys,
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: like all of like my friend Andrew insists that every
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: gay lawyer is just doing it so that they can
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: go like do drugs on a on a beach somewhere
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: for two weeks.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Out of the year. And what's the drugs that they
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: like to do? GHB.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: Cocaine, some of them.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Is it GHB, the date rape?
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: But gay guys remove the middleman and just date rape
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: drug themselves. So GHB, meth, cocaine. There's something called meth,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: and I have no idea what it is.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: And are they scared that they could get slipped something
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: wrong in it and then accidentally die?
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Well, it's more about doing the math wrong. Like generally
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: on these cruises, like, The notion of one guy dying
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: every cruise is kind of normal. Like just sort of
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: one person overdoses and dies.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: And does the crew stop or do they act like
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: it didn't happen until the end?
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: I think you have to stop and you have to
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: deal with Bahamian officials and like repatriate the body and
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: that sort of thing.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: But, you know, and they like.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: What happens with the rest of the people that came
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: in the crew? Like if four guys went together and
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: one passes, do they continue with their. free drinks or
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: what do they do i have.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: To assume so you know like later when they return
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: to manhattan will they leave one of the the bikes
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: open in honor of him at the spin class yes
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: but you know you paid your money for the cruise
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: like you're gonna get your good time.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Out of it so you have never been asked to
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: perform and therefore you have never thought i would have
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: fun there no.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Okay so In all your years.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: In the run ups to my last birthday, my friend Matt,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: whose birthday is like the same week as mine, was like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: let's go on this cruise. It was an Atlantis cruise
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: of Asia. And he was like, let's do this for
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: our birthday.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: And it was like semi tempting, but I had already
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: planned something myself. And so I was like, no, like
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: it does seem tempting, but also it's like, I'm not
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: going to be the flavor of gay that most of
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: those guys are looking for. So it like, wouldn't be fun.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think performing would be interesting, but apparently
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: performing is also like rough in its way because they're
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: all like naked and drugged. And, and, you know, I
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: think there are on the cruise, like some older gentlemen
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: who are looking.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: To like, uh, you know, have a conversation and enjoy
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the performances.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: But they are not, you know, the center of the story.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Got it. Okay.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: According to TMZ, Britney Spears sells her rights to her
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: music catalog. She just signed a massive new music deal,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: one that sells her rights to her extensive music catalog.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about this.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Like, I just finished watching The Traitors Season 3, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Sam Asghari was very savvy.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: And I am like.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Had him on the show.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Did he seem smart?
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: It was really interesting to have him on because it
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: was probably like five months ago and there was a
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: lot going on in Iran at the time as there
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: is now. But he really spoke so, you know, heartfelt
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: about what it was like to be a child to
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: come over here and why they left because he had
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: sisters and what it means. And he really talked about that. But,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he also shared about being with Britney.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what did he have to say?
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: What he said because we had some conversation off, but
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: you see her spinning.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I hung out with her for maybe 25 minutes one night.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be married to her either.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Like, I just think it's very hard when someone is
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: mentally in her space. And I think you marry her
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: and you hope and maybe you think like, okay, now
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: we're married. Things are going to change. And no, I mean,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: it was he who I think just decided like, I can't.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: And he had like a cute girlfriend with him here.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: And I just think he wants to be an actor
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: and everything. I don't think he used her or anything
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: like that. I think they were together. And I think
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: he was hoping that this would be like his wife forever.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: But her catalog, I just wish she... It's that hard
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: thing of you wish she had somebody with her who
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: was helping manage her. She does.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: But her life was destroyed. She's Cade Hudson. Who's Cade? Cade.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: Cade Hudson?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know him?
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: No, is that her boyfriend now?
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: No, he's her manager.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: He's gay. He has a lot of big clients. He's
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: fun to hang out with him. So, I mean, I
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: don't know that it's a bad idea. Because, I mean.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's going to really ever perform again.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: So I think this sets her up financially, truly to
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: live the rest of her life, don't you think?
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, the thing that she needs is just to
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: be able to live her life on the terms that
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: she wants. And if this allows for that, it's just
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: that her Cadillac has to be bringing in so much
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: money on a regular basis that I would think it
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: would be able to take care of her. Her needing
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: to do this, my question is why. But the thing
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about before is, if she realizes this
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: money in one pot now, whoever is representing her gets
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: 10% of that instead of having to, you know, possibly
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: be fired or whatever and move along. So that is
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: interesting to me. But like, I want her to have
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: her happiness under whatever terms she needs. And, you know, yeah.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just wonder if people that are in Oh,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that mental place.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Whether it's you're truly, you know, you need to be
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: on drugs or you're not on drugs, but you are
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: just spinning around and talking in accents and slapping your
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: own ass.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: And then the next day you do that. And maybe
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: in your brain, like, that's fine.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It's like, what do I know? I'm still in my house.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: I still see my friend that, you know, or my
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: who I think is my friend. I get to go
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: to Mexico. I get to spin around. I see that,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: you know, 42,000 people liked it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: And like, that's enough for me. She doesn't want to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: commit to like doing shows. She's done it already.
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: I just, I mean, the thing, but selling the catalog
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: means like, no longer having the regular source of income.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: And I just don't want to come.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: To a point. So you mean it just is one
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: big chunk of money?
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one big chunk.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: So what do you think it is?
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: $ 100 million to $ 200 million maybe?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just- It should be more than that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sure it will be a sizable amount of money,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: but I'm sure it cannot equal what it would have
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: been if she had just collected that money for the
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: next- 40 years.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Like when Michael Jackson did it, I think it was
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: because of the settlements that he had to do with
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: the kids.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Are you excited to see his movie?
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, no. I don't know about it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: You don't know that his movie's coming out?
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: No.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: So it's one, some relative, nephew, something is playing him.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: And from what I saw, it looks very good.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: It looks like it only goes up to a certain point.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Like the family's behind it, so they probably don't get
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: to the accusations and all that.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: And so it'll just be like his story.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I'm sure the Pepsi burning off his head story, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: when he gets in the commercial.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Both of them were just people who did not get
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: to have a childhood.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: It seems so sad to me.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love every Michael Jackson movie. I'm the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: one with.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Who's the, she played the mom. Oh God.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: It was like a made for TV movie. And it
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: was just really how awful the dad was that he cheated.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: And he like, he was violent.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: With the kids. And that one was really wait. Who
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: is the, who is the actress that's like in, um, Oh,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: the actress that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Played Tina Turner.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's Angela Bassett.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Angela Bassett plays the mom.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: And I just remember the made for TV movie where
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: she's like, she kind of had like a limp or care,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: you know, the real woman had a limp or whatever.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: And so she's like, I'll get you some ice cream.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: She's being nice to her husband and the phone rings
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: and it's like some mistress. And she's just like, like
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: she just put up with so much.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: And then being in this.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Weird place where they were just such a phenomenon. And
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: then realizing that the young that here, this one is
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: the one that's going to be the star.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, That's got to be very hard. And, like,
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: his brothers were so mean to him because he was
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: the star in that dynamic. Like, almost in the way that, like,
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: Prince Charles got bullied because, like, everyone knew he was
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: going to be king. But then they also saw he was, like,
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: a person and emotionally vulnerable. That's always really hard.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: You know how people know that, like, Paris Hilton changed
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: her voice?
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And then you'll see her with her normal voice?
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: So Michael Jackson then created that high voice?
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And I remember.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: people, Keenan being one of them, Karen Waits, saying that
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: like he talked to him and he was like, doesn't
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: talk like that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: He didn't have, it was like an effect.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: And I always wondered if it was like, he was
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: sort of obsessed with Diana Ross. And is that why
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: he like wanted to sound like her when she spoke?
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: It was so strange that why, if you were also
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: wanting to present that you were straight and Regular dad
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: and not whatever he.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Was sexually, who knows. But why then would you take
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: on such a high feminine voice?
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: That is very interesting. There have been so many celebrities
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: more recently who have really effectively created personas to distance
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: who they are really from who we consume, you know.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Sia not letting us see her face forever. And like
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: part of me is like.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And then she does, right?
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Now she does.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: But like what if Michael Jackson were that savvy? I
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: just don't believe that he was that savvy. I just,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I'm never going to stop worrying about Britney Spears. You know? Yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I'm like just never going to.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Because once it's a set amount of money, she's got
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: to be able to run through that money. You know?
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It's just sad.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Like I was watching this like compilation of all people.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: little highlights of like the super bowl for the last
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: 30 years or whatever starting at like 1991 yes and
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: they and you're like oh i remember that one oh
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: okay oh jester timberlake did it twice oh this is
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: where you know janet jackson's tit was exposed and that
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: was such a scandal right and of course the woman
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: took the fall for that her anyway but she was
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: in one of the super bowl things and just to
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: see her be like yay and like be so sharp
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: and so great when we've only seen this instagram side
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: of her for like the last five years it's just
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: kind of like it's a bummer and this is a
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: bummer that she's always dressed in these weird cheap outfits i.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Was going to ask how many peasant tops do you
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: think she owns.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: So many and and like and it's always like you
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: know a bikini bottom yes with like a winter hat
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and a and a boot it's.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Just so sad that there was no one there to
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: take care of her like it really.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Is i just think who is i just think anyone
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: that's hanging out with her is hanging out with her
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: because they're being paid. Because after a while, I don't
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: care that you loved every single song that she ever
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: wrote and you're like, I can't believe I'm in the
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: presence of Britney Spears. It's like having to be on
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: call and watching a three-year-old all day.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: So it's like, let's get yogurt, let's go.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I think even if you're just like that girl that's
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: like her paid assistant, after a while you're probably like,
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: I can't do it. But who knows, whatever this thing is,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: I hope it's the right move.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills a little bit.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling about the season, Amanda?
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Tell me. I've been loving this season. Amanda's the worst,
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: and I feel like everyone having that to agree on. Like,
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: having a common enemy has been really good.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: But also just the shape of things has been really
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: different in a way that was unexpected. Like, I think
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Dorit has been throwing punches, and you know I love that.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: I feel like Erika is, like, coming back a little bit,
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: and after having, like, the weight of the show on
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: her for, like, two seasons, she's been kind of breezy
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: for a while, and I kind of want her to
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: have a real story. And, like.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Bo, Bo's, what do we call her?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Bozoma? Bo's is her name.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Yeah.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: But like, um, and like Bo's has just been like
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: really fun and kooky. I loved her friend from Denver
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: coming to tacos when Mauricio showed up. How does that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: work with production? Do they, are they just holding, do
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: you believe that Mauricio was at that location?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: No, I think they were like, they're going to have lunch.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Would you make an appearance? I think, It could be
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: that he gets paid five grand every time he shows up.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: And why not?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, right now, it was very funny that he
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: is trying to be a DJ.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: He also modeled the other day. And now it's just
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: kind of funny.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: He doesn't get to do that and tell me about
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: how we're opening up offices for the.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Real estate agency.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: It's a lot more fun to be a television personality
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: model DJ. That's a lot more fun than worrying about
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: the mansion tax.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: I do think there's something sweet about the fact that
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Kyle is still in love with him after having... you know,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: they've had their midlife crises.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Well, she's laughing at him becoming a DJ and being like,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: you had your midlife crises.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, you were a country groupie.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Like, you got a girlfriend and not only was she country,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: she was tattooed, she was younger, and she was a woman.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: And you couldn't even admit to it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: She's kind of admitted to it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: Jennifer Tilly has been killing it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: She's so much fun.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: Kathy is so amazing. But like Jennifer Tilly is a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: gifted performer, richer than God, and like knows how to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: give you comic relief.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: The thing is, is that these ladies are all just
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: so interesting in their own right that when someone goes,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: it's a boring season, it's a boring episode, I'm like,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not bored.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not bored. And also, I do think Amanda has
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: given us a great opportunity to embrace Rachel Zoe. Like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: hating Amanda has given Rachel Zoe the space she needs
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: to really just.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Like Rachel Zoe is the star of the show. Yep.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if she chose to go on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: this because she knew this is a way I could
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: get out what a shit husband I'm married to.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I kind of want to do that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: And I kind of want to do something fun for me.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's such a great... I'm so happy that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: she did it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: For all of us, but also for her. Like, I mean,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: this is a great thing to do when you're getting divorced.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't just divorce. Like, they've been together since, like, college.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: even if she's not dating anyone, just to be doing
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: something fun and different that takes you on trips and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: just having like something new in your life besides what
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: you've been doing, I think is really fun. And then
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I think that she comes off like a really good friend.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: And when she's like, I'm sorry, I know we're supposed
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: to all be good about not bitching about our husbands,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: but if we're really living authenticity in front of the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: cameras we would vent to our fucking girlfriends we all
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: do so I think that's why Dorit was getting upset
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: because she's like I don't need you guys to now
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: say I'm doing wrong when I'm on the show and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: I am gonna I am gonna talk about PK and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: that he's you know driving me crazy and not being
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: a good father in my opinion I'm allowed to say
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: it And I.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Think she is.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: I hated Sutton for so long because I'm like, why
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: are you being the worst person? And now I'm like,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: now that Sutton is behaving herself, is the show worse? Like,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: does the show need Sutton being terrible?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I definitely think she.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: You know, want is, is behaving herself and is, you know,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: not saying name them, name them and all that kind
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: of stuff. But still, you know, she, she, it still
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: all works together. I mean, the way, the way Bose
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: was in that dinner, if she really is the voice
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: of reason and she really is like, well, what are
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: you talking about? Like, this isn't going to work here. Like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: when she's like, I was verbally attacked and everything, people
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: are like, oh my, you're on the housewives. Like, you
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: know we're going to have a conversation.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: But Boze is a really good voice of reason because
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: she throws some punches while she's doing it. I just
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: think if Amanda were a more grounded villain... I would
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: be much happier with the season.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Well, the rumor is that she leaves halfway through or
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: kind of stops doing it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked. I don't know if she's said that.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: That's not true.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I know we see her like, I'm pretty sure she
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: goes on the European, goes to the Italy trip and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: stuff coming up. But, you know, I don't like, I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: don't think anyone like hates Amanda. Even Sutton told me
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: when I saw her a couple weeks ago, she's like,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: she goes, Amanda's not a bad person.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: She's not a bad person.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: You know, it just, she's younger and she joined the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: group and she is who she is. She's this person
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: that has made a.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Lot of money. Right. Doing a fluffy manifestation.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: And if people are willing to pay for it and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: she's delivering the goods that they're paying for, like, we
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: can't be mad at that. She has made that legit,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: made that money herself.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: And the show really could have used a younger person to,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: like to just sort of like come in and play
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: the game and and get in there like yeah i
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: mean i'm wondering.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: It's a weird it's a she is a weird person
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: but it helps with the show i think they knew
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: this is weird she has a weird job she kind
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: of comes off weird she's braggadocious we need to throw
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: a wrench in it if they just picked another woman
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: that they're all friends with I don't know.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: A 37-year-old Lisa Vanderpump. What you need is somebody who has, like,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: enough self-possession to be calling people on their shit.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which she did. She did, yes. I mean, she
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: kind of did with the Dreet, but it's like, after
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: a while, you're like, all right, whatever. But it.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: Were you impressed by the anniversary of losing my child, Gambit?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel it's such a hard thing to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: talk about because it is so awful.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah. You know....
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: OK, I'll tell you, I all of a sudden I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: was like, why is this like weirdly familiar to me?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: And then I remembered why. OK, so a few years ago,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: maybe four years ago or so, I was like. She's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: so annoyed of seeing people do like photos of like,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you know, sorry, it's not perfect, but then they would
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: look really good.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: And I've always been annoyed by Chrissy Teigen. Yes.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I was annoyed when she came on Chelsea Lately. I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: was annoyed that she thought she was a comedian. I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: never found her to be funny. I don't know why
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: she gets all these jobs judging comedians when I don't
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: think she's funny.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I think what she did and wrote, I think, yes.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: I think her tweets are weird that she deleted in
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: light of things with all the pizza and the toddler
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: and Tierra comments.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I always thought it was fucking weird.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: And then to see her come back on star search,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, of all the people, she already was canceled.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Now she's, you know, she's a judge on star search.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: With, um, with, um, jelly roll. She was canceled. Basically, uh, Stauden,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: what's her name? Courtney Stauden. Courtney Stauden, yeah. Kind of
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: reminded the world that she would tweet her and say,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: go end your life.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Take a dirt bath or a dirt bed or whatever.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Sleep with all these awful things. And then that reminded
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: everybody of all the horrible things that she had tweeted
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: over the years. That were literally pedo stuff, okay? And,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: but then... when I'm always trying to look the other side,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. Was she trying to be funny?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: She really wants to be funny. And so during that time,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: so I thought she went away, but she got to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: stay cause she's married to John legend. So anyway, she
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: did some posts where it was just like, Um, her
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: looking gorgeous, but her eyes were like shut.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: And she's like, yeah, uh, I don't care.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I never even asked when my glam squad says, can,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: can I take a photo of this or post it?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: I'm like, go ahead. And then this is like my
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: ugly photo, whatever. So of course the comments like, what
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: are you talking about? Chrissy Teigen, you look gorgeous, whatever.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: And I just wrote something like, oh, please enough with
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: the humble brag. Like if you're going to be judging comedians,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: like come up with some better material.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I wrote something like that. Somehow, um, It got out there.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: It was a slow day.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: And people kind of liked that I went after her
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And then at the end of the day,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: she did a post like, F you, today is the day,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: the anniversary of when she had lost her baby. But
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: she posted that photo that day.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: And how was I supposed to know that she had
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: a miscarriage? Yeah. So then.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: like I'm leaving my office in Wilden Hills and TMZ
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: like comes and they're like, can we ask you about this?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, of course I didn't know that she
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: lost her kid. I'm a comedian, a real comedian. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: was pointing out humble brags on social media.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: That's it. I would never think to say anything. So
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: that is where I think like you're going.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Back and forth with so whether it's on a reality
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: show and then someone pulls out this thing like, didn't
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: you know that this is my mother died?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: And you're like, no, I didn't know your mother died.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Like you were still being a bitch at the grocery store.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: Like I didn't know that. And so I think that's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: what I think. I think it's a weird thing. She's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: new on the show. you know, they don't have to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: go to everything, but they also have a producer that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: guides them.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: That is probably like, if you're up for it, I
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: think it would be great.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: Or I think it'd be really great if you shared
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: this moment. There's so many women that have been through this.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: You're going to be, you know, like they talk you
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: into sharing stuff. And then the people at home. criticize
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: you for sharing it, you know, or whatever. And you're like, well,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: you don't know what led them decide to share it
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: on camera.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: And also when you come to these things, there is
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: an expectation that there will be some degree of confrontation
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: about the thing that's going on, you know, but also
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: that's rough. And I understand not being logical when it
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: comes to something that real and visceral, you know?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, um, but, You know, I think it's good.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: Do you know that Costco is selling Hermes Birkin bags?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: I did not know that.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: At some of their international locations.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: That's insane.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: So they're still thousands of dollars, but instead of being
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: like 30 grand, they're like nine.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's like.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, doesn't it just look like such an ugly
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: old lady bag, like in that glass photo?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: It really does.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I would like, I'm never going to spend $ 30, 000 on
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: a bag.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: I would want to get to go to the Hermes store,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: you know? Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: The whole fun of it is going to the store.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: But I always wonder when they, when something like this happens,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: does this start to kill it for the brand?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, but that's how the brand really makes
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: the money is selling out in that way, you know,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: but it does sort of kill the magic.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, like if I was someone that had like
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: a bunch of these bags, I'd be like, They're just,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: the dupes are so good now that it's just like,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: who's to say?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: I wish I were one of the gay guys who
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: was good at identifying when people have a knockoff handbag.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: That would be a cool power to have.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: I can't even tell.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: I went into someone's closet recently and they're like, you
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: pick out what's real and what's fake and see how
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: That's an awesome game.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I failed.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't believe it. I was like, now this.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: And it was like, no, I was wrong.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: Should we produce a thing that's like Battle of the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: Network Stars, but it's called Housewife Games? And we get together.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: We do this at BravoCon. We shoot it live at BravoCon.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: It's like the Price is Right slash supermarket sweep, but
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: for housewifey high-end things. Right.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Well, and then also it's like with these fake dupes
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: and stuff, it's like... If you're going to have a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: dupe that the real one is like $ 45, 000, it's got
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: to be believable that you would be someone that would
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: have a $ 45, 000 bag. So you might want to just
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: go and get a dupe of a $ 2, 500 bag for $ 300.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: I say a dupe, but I mean like a fake.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: And then that's like the philosophy of it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: Nothing made me happier than when Jennifer Tilly brought along
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: like an insane vintage bag that was like $ 100, 000. Yeah.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: And Erica just like had her tongue out of her
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: mouth and was just like so respectful of like the quality,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: both the expense and the quality.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, what else am I supposed to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: do with my money? I'll just use this little Titanic bag.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: purse that is from Louis Vuitton, whatever.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It is so great. And when it was,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: who was it? It was someone that said like, you're
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: at the table.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was a content creator, but someone's like to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: the Amanda, like show some respect. Like you're at a
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: table with fricking Kathy Hilton, Jennifer Tilly. you know, Kyle, who's,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: you know, been on the show forever. Like it is
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: really just going back to that. I mean, it really
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: is such a, it really is such a great cast.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: It really is. Would you look askance at a diamond
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: that came from Costco?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Like if I got, I got diamonds from Costco are
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: really good. Now I got diamond hoop earrings. One, unfortunately
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I lost.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: And I have a cool diamond, like, different diamond necklace. Uh-huh.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: But, no, they are legit, real diamonds. And for less.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, the frozen scallops, truly amazing. And every time
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: I'm at the grocery store and I'm tempted to buy lobster,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: I'm always like, God, you should just go buy lobster
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: at Costco.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Like, that's... There are some great, great items at Costco.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: Um....
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: There were hundreds of teens that streamed out of an L.A. home.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: It was in the valley after a bus party. And
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: all the comments were like, well, at least they're not
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: on their iPads.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: Yes. The children going out and living in the world. Like,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: we have teenagers who don't have sex or do drugs
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: or drink anymore. And it's nice to have these ancient
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: traditions held alive, you know?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm like, I don't even think this is
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: that bad. I really don't. So are you watching The
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Traitors now?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: I'm watching The Traitors now.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: And tell me what you think. Are you up to date?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: I am up to date.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk a little about that.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: Well, the thing is I just watched season three, so
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: that's really alive in my mind. I really fell in
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: love with Gabby Windy. Yeah, she's great. During that. But
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: that Rob is steering things so effectively is kind of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: crazy to me.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Is Rob from Survivor or what's he from?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: No, he's from Love Island.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's adorable.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: One of the things I really like about traitors is
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: that these quieter personalities, these people who aren't from reality
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: competition shows or housewives, so frequently are the end game
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: and controlling things. And so I have real hope for
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Kristen Kish from Top Chef. But when a traitor starts
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: blowing up another traitor's game and accusing them, Like, when
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: he went after her, I was really hoping that Lisa
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: would last for a while.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: But you think she's too.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: It's just a bummer because, like, yeah, she is so
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: fun to watch. Like, you know, and it's like, and
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: of course when you know them and when you don't
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: know them, like.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: But also, it's her own damn fault for not being
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: Lisa Rinna, for being, like, because she was a traitor,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: she was quiet. She wasn't being Lisa Rinna. And they
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: smelled that, you know?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: And then also I saw her do an interview and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: she was like, I decided to go with a more, like...
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: gender fluid look throughout the whole thing so that's why
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: she was wearing like the combat boots.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: And so i was thinking you know the outfits are so.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Ridiculous on everybody they come to breakfast and they come
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: and they wear gloves and i was always like oh
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: my god i guess if you're gonna go on that
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: show you really need to like get all your outfits
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: together just like if you're going on the bachelor or
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: whatever and have this is what i'm gonna wear like
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: all these days and all these different looks because, I mean,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: you are on a show that everyone's gonna see you.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: You know that for Drag Race, they famously take out
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: loans to get the outfits that they will need for
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: the show or get sugar daddies. But I don't understand
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: why when somebody, when a traitor is truly blowing you
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: up and you're also a traitor, why don't you just
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: say to the table, oh yes, He knows I'm a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: traitor because we are both traitors. Like, I feel like
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: at that point you have to give them mutually assured
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: destruction or else you're going to give them the possibility
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: of just sliding through the way that like Rob did.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: For a while. Okay.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: So like if you, okay, so let's say I'm not
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: a traitor.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: I am a faithful, but you're coming after me and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: you're giving your, okay, we're on traitors and you're giving
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: your thing and you're saying, Heather, I think it's you
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: because you slipped and said whatever in the kitchen.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, holy shit.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to all vote for me because
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: Guy is so persuasive, you know, and everything. So then
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: you're saying something that hasn't been done that should be
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: done is I should be like, well, okay. yeah, you
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: know I'm a traitor because we're freaking traitors together. And
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: then he'd be like, no, I'm not. And then I'd
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: be like, so you're telling me that you and I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: didn't just have our cloaks on.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: I think you should only do that when you're a
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: traitor and another traitor is coming after you.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: And just sort of say like, well, if we're going
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: to do this, let's do this. That could be interesting
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: because the question is like, how do you save yourself
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: the next week? You know? And I think.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: No, I'm saying if you're not a traitor, if you're
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: not a traitor and you are like... They kind of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: know when their day is due, and it's like, yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: it would be kind of fun to blow it up.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: It would be hard to dial it back if you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: weren't a traitor and you said that you were. But yeah,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: I just think there needs to be... I hate Boston Rob,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: and watching Boston Rob sort of destroy people and sort
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: of walk through them and have everyone be scared really
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: sort of frustrated me. And so seeing Rob this season
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: take out... Lisa and then Candice in such succession.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I also want to know, getting back
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: to the outfits, you know, because they, like, when they
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: went to, like, the party and stuff and, like, all
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: of a sudden Colton's wearing, like, crown and, like, pearls
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: and stuff. I need to know from someone who's worked
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: on Traders, do they meet with a stylist from the Traders? That's, like,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to help you put your 22 looks together.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: I need to understand it together because, like.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: And then you also don't... Ron Funches had the most
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: beautiful jacket on. No, I think they.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: give you stylists through the show. Cause also they don't
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: want you to be jumping on someone else's look. So
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: it's like, we know Alan Cummings has all these different looks.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: So I think there's like a head stylist that does
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: Alan and then it's kind of like, okay, you're working
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: with this person, you know, so let's have some fun
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: looks together. But like, I'm just thinking if I had
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: to do 20 looks, would I pick anything from my
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: old closet or would I want to start completely new?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: Well, and also they do so much thematic stuff with
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: the tweed and everything that you have to assume that
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: that stuff is like coming from their wardrobe department.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: Though I do believe Dorinda has that much tweed.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Dorinda hasn't been in it much. So we'll see how,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: how much she makes it through. But I do skim
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: a little bit through like the challenges and stuff. I,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: but I, I love just watching the breakfast and then
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: the thing at the end.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: Like, I just think it's joyous.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: And it always makes you really hungry for breakfast.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: Even if we're watching it at like 9.30 at night,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I want some really good toast.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Rob.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Some tea.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: At the banquet, eating boiled eggs in a single bite
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: was truly, like, it was hot.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Like, it was.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Well, let's do, you've been doing a really fun thing
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: on your Instagram.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Which I love. love. And how did you think of it?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: I didn't think of it. So I have been working
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: with this very funny comic named Tori Piskin. She's better
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: at editing videos and stuff than I am. And we've
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: been going out and doing man on the street stuff
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: in West Hollywood. And I was spending so much time
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: explaining some aspect of gay culture to her that she
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: was like, you should do a thing called only the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: old gays remember. And then we ended up doing it.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: And she just sort of like pitched some ideas at me.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: She was like, what's the first sex tape you remember?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: And I talked about the Rob Lowe thing and I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: didn't realize like a lot of people were scandalized that
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: I had done that because I didn't realize that one
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: of the women he was with was 16. She was
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: 16 or 17. But like I was like 10 when
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: it happened or whatever. And so to me, it was
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: just like two women having sex with each other. Why
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: would they do that?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And just sort of like other things that are.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: Not some of them are sort of like queer moments,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: but they're just sort of like iconic things that matter.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: Like what else? Like, you know, when Celine came for
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Aretha at VH1 Divas Live, I did one.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: What did she say? I don't even know that story.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: She just like they were all singing. You make me
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: feel like a natural woman. And Aretha was like, you know,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: doing riffs and everything. And everyone was very deferential. and
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: Celine was like, I'm gonna out-sing Aretha, and it was
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: dazzling and amazing to see them try to out-sing each other.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: Or we did one recently that was just like remember smoking.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: Like remember when you were at a bar and you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: didn't want to talk to anyone, instead of looking at
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: your phone, you would smoke.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: I just saw something like, how old are you? Or
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: do you remember when there was a smoking area at
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: the high school?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: Yes. I mean, we did not have one.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: We had a.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: Religious retreat that everyone still does called Kairos in the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Catholic high schools and stuff. And they said, since we
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: were seniors, they said, if you want and you're a smoker,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: you can smoke during this religious retreat.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Amazing.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I could not believe it. Yeah. I mean, crazy that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: kids are smoking.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: It was like even when I was in the dorms
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: at Berkeley, there were ashtrays out on the balconies.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: They were like ashtrays built in cars, remember?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: Yes. No, that was like- Airplane.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: Everybody on an airplane, were they still on the ashtray?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: Then you're like, why am I on this plane? It's terrifying.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: The plane technology has not changed in the last 30 years.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: It bothers me. Why do the controls look the same
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: now as when I first got on a plane in 1982?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's another gay, old gay?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: Just did one about, okay, this one was great. Luther Vandross.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: So like iconic diva closeted. Patti LaBelle came out for
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: him on Watch What Happens Live 20 years after he died.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: But he had En Vogue opening for him.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: What do you mean came out for him?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Like she, like Andy Cohen asked, was Luther gay? And
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: she was like, yes, Luther was gay. He couldn't talk
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: about it, blah, blah, blah. But like he would, he had,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: en vogue opening for him in like 1989 and he
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: told them that they weren't allowed to wear any white
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: red blue or black or anything that had sequins or
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: that caught the light because his singers needed to be
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: the only thing that were like visually arresting on the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: stage And so they broke that rule and he got
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: mad at them and they were like, Luther, we're a
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: girl group. And he was like, I am a girl group.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: And then he was so mad at them that he
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: said that they could not walk past his dressing room.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: And then one day they did. They had to go
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: out and take a golf cart around to the front
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: of the venue and enter with the public to perform.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: And one day they did come by his dressing room.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: And then when they got off stage, he had called
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: the Miami Police Department because they were trespassing.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's amazing.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: He was just an iconic diva. And there's a really
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: good documentary about him on HBO. And it's so clearly
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: a person who because he was gay and black and
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: very fat, like the industry didn't know how to like
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: accept him. But he was so talented. And that turned
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: into this like. diva instinct to always you know in
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: a world that didn't respect him he demanded the respect
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: that he thought he deserved and I think that's amazing
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: and I think it's important to you know remember these
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: juicy moments.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: I definitely think it's different um I think it's very,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: I think it's very funny, serious. Cause it really is
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: very specific to your point of view. And like those stories,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: I thought I knew every story, but that story wouldn't
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: hit me the way it would hit you.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: So, but it's like, the thing is, is when we
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: were working together, the things that we bonded over were
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: sort of these like little nuggets and moments of pop
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: culture history that not everybody remembered, but like we're indelibly
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: like on our brains. Um, I recently rewatched, uh, on YouTube,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: there's the Donahue of the cast of Steel Magnolias. And
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: it's just like, it's one of the greatest moments that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: we've ever had in popular culture. Just those four iconic
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: ladies being friends. And like, Donahue is so condescending to
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: Julia Roberts every time. He's like, look, you with Shirley MacLaine.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Can you believe that? 19 year olds.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: It's so great when you, so when you see like
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: old clips of how weird everyone is, like, or towards
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: like Brooke Shields. yes when they're just like or or
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: towards justin um bieber oh like did you that clip
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: where um who's the guy that did karaoke james corden
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: yeah and how he's like grabbing him and smelling him
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: what is the deal with james corden.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: Like i don't know like i i met like i
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: met to work on a show a couple of times
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: they gave me an offer and i was like.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: I can't um When he had his late night show? Yes.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: But he seemed like a very interesting energy because it
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: was very bro-y, but also like theater kid-y. And I
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: could never like get a finger on what his deal was.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: I just always remember this was a story, so it's
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: a legend.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: But that he was on a plane in first class.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: And there was a woman there that had a couple
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: kids also in first class. And she was struggling to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: get situated. And him being the star was, like, you know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: very annoyed.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: That there's, like, you know, little kids in first class
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: and everything. And someone was, like, observing him, like, I
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: know you're the star of this late night show, but, like,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: have some humanity.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it was his wife and kids.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: That's very funny. That's very funny. You know, there's a
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: clear answer to when you have rowdy children in first class.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: Class of champagne.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: You know? For them and for you.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: Put them right to sleep.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, Guy, tell us what else you have going on.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: So I'm doing my solo show, Be Fruitful, at Netflix's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: Is It Joke Fest.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: I think you're doing it the same night as me.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: May 9th?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. What are you doing?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Mine is a live Juicy Scoop at Avalon on May
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: 9th at 7 p.m.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's going to be— well, no, mine is at 8 p.m.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: But Avalon, that's going to be amazing. Yes.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: So if you didn't get tickets to mine and you'd
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: like to go to something, go see Guy.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: The important thing is I also have some dates at
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: Lyric Hyperion in March. So you should come to those
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: and go to Heather's for Juicy Scoop.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I think mine, I don't know if there's tickets
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: left or not.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, she's sold out. She's doing fine.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm just saying it's fun to go to a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: lot of different shows that week.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, well, that's exciting. That's what you wanted.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: But, you know, you really wanted the Edinburgh thing, right?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Edinburgh, yes.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: And I said it wrong. It's okay. How do you
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: say it? Edinburgh.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: Edinburgh.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: And what are you getting?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: I'm going in August.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, you are? Yes. So it's the whole month. You
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: do it the whole month.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: You do it the whole month.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, what did you find about that? Like a couple
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Well, congratulations.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: So you live there for a month. Yes. And you
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: do it every night.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: Under horrible conditions. Like there's no air conditioning.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: It's like a weird little, but are there a bunch
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: of shows at the same time?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Yes. There are like 4,000 shows going on across the city.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: And do you do yours in the same theater every
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: night or do you bounce around?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Same theater every night. Though apparently you like go and
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: do other people's shows and that kind of thing.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: And why should you do other people's shows if you're
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: doing your own.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: Because you're only doing it for one hour you go
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: do it after.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Or before and is that to just get it to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: a place that's like so amazing I mean.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: It's already in a good place it's to like really
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: hone it like to get it really really sharp and
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: hopefully get some good reviews and buzz so I can
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: bring it back here and like you know.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: And so where will you live that month?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: Housing is like the hardest part like getting good housing
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: like a lot of people like live in the University
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: of Edinburgh dorms and stuff like that I will probably
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: see if I can spend too much money to get
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: like an Airbnb that for like four times what it
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: should be.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: You absolutely should.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: I mean this should be This is like your college
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: all over again.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: This is like you're going back to college in such
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: a cool way.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: It seems, it seems.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: But you're like a star and you have money and
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: you're doing what you love, but you're like surrounded by
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: all these people doing the same thing.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's so cool.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: It seems terrible and fun at the same time.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I think for you, it's going to be like amazing.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: So amazing. I think it's such a cool thing.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: Like it should be fun. So if you're, In Britain
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: or if you're going to be in Edinburgh in August,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: please come see Be Fruitful.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: That is so awesome. And it's at Guy Branum.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: At Guy Branum everywhere except it's at Guy Branum comedy
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: on TikTok.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Lovely. And I'm at heathermcdonald.net. I'll be.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: At Wise Guys in March in Salt Lake City and
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: then also May 9th too at the Netflix is a
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