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Fall Booster and the NALC Tentative Agreement · United We Scan

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  Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
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  United We Scan podcast. Hey, welcome back everybody.
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  Episode 94, I am back this week. James and I got back today from
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  our fall booster which went pretty well.
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  There was a good number of first timers there.
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  I will say it was good to see some.
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  Very proud of that. Yes, yes, and.
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  Remember when James was the 1st timer?
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  Oh oh OK. I'm sorry you talked about the
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  convention. Oh boy, we're off to a we're,
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  we're off on a running. So how was your week, James?
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  Well, I started getting bad actually.
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  So I did not make the truck Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday,
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  and DPS was late Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and it was
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  just political, political, political, political.
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  Literally every single day I was stopping at every single box to
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  deliver one of the four or five political Flyers that I had in
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  there. Some people were getting all 5,
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  some were only getting one or two, but it was terrible.
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  And then I found out after getting to the fall booster
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  because I worked Friday and then drove up to the fall booster.
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  I found out Saturday that our DPS didn't come in.
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  So I'm got probably looking forward to two runs of DPS on
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  Monday. So but got up to the fall
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  booster, got my room, got some dinner finally and went to
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  sleep. Then got up for the booster.
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  Spent the weekend in the booster.
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  We had our standard laissez faire there.
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  We'll talk about in a bit. And then Saturday, Sunday was
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  Q&A with the steward with another great informational
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  piece there. And then drove all the way back
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  here just in time to have about an hour of prep time for the
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  podcast. So starting off on the I'm
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  running behind on everything foot from Tuesday on.
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  How about you, Bill? How was your retired week?
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  Oh my God, I tell you, yeah, I it it got to the point where
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  when I get up to do my not To Do List, I don't do the list of not
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  to do's. That's bad.
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  I mean, yeah, it is. It, it's torturous.
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  It really is. I mean, you know, it, it's, it's
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  exasperating. It really is.
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  But yeah, I'm fielding daily calls, you know, from, you know,
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  people in my office, people from across the country, some instant
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  messaging from people on, on my route, customers going, where
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  the hell are you? It's, you know, it's, we want
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  you back. I was like, you know, I, I, I'm
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  almost feeling guilty, but I did, me and my wife took our
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  grandson over to see one of my elderly customers yesterday and
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  had a nice visit with her. And I just, you know, God, I'm
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  trying to get over to guilt. I really am.
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  I mean, I, I feel like I've let them down and it, you know, I
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  know angry Bill, you know, he's got feelings.
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  Yeah. And it's not just gas it, it's
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  just, you know, listening to the things.
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  And, and we have a, a situation in my office where the former
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  ADR who lost the local steward position to me is now chirping
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  on the floor, trying to cause all kinds of situations and
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  consternations. And somebody called me up about
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  it. And I'm, I'm going to send him
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  the 14 page report this individual so he can take it and
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  stick it in this guy's face and say, well, here you go.
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  This is what we're chirping about.
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  You know, the, the backstabbing. And, and here's what gives me,
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  ladies and gentlemen, you know, when you're arguing with each
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  other on the floor, you're, you know, you don't like this
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  person, you don't like that person.
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  That's fine. Danny, this ADR who has
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  basically milked the system for six years, turned around and
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  made the comment that, well, your statement jeopardized my
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  career. You know, it jeopardized my
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  family's future. This, that and the other.
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  No, your actions are what caused it, not the fact that you got
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  reported on it. If you didn't do the things that
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  you've done in the past, your own interest and guess what?
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  We wouldn't have a problem. And people say, well, he's just
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  looking down for his family. Now.
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  When, when you're in the position of a steward area,
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  Stewart ADRDR, you're in the position to serve others first.
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  You know, that's why you get in there and you don't, you don't
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  turn around and you ask, you know, a, a, a soldier or Marine,
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  there is a difference. You know, whether or not they'll
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  go all the way in protecting your freedoms.
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  Soon as they sign that dotted line, they've, they've put their
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  life on the line for you. And, and any little shit hole
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  across the country in the world. And that's how it is.
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  That's what's expected of them to note lesson service to your
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  craft, be your duty as a employee of the NSS.
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  And that's the problem. It's a position of entitlement,
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  just like our national board, and I'm tired of it.
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  So that's how my week went, putting out fires at my former
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  office. Yeah.
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  Isn't that fun? Frequency bite your tongue.
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  Well, it's been a couple weeks since I've been on here guys, so
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  you know. And and we and we behaved last
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  week. I haven't even listened to it
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  yet. Will admit I'm a little behind
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  on things, but no. I had the four day, I had the
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  four day weekends. And so I took Ruby and the baby
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  down to my parents, did some visiting and ran into one of my
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  my besties that we've been good friends since elementary school
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  and went over to her house since that's why I wasn't on and her
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  kids wanted to see the baby and the significant others.
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  We went and hung out with them for a while and then one day
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  when we left my parents, we headed over to one of Ruby's
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  aunts, one of them that helped throw the baby shower and
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  visited with her and two out of the three of her kids and then
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  headed home. I was off Tuesday at the
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  snuggle, the little one. Why?
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  Ruby went to school and I worked Wednesday and Thursday.
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  I did not make truck either day and that was mainly because of
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  mail. I yeah, I mean I had 130 scans
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  on Wednesday only because I found out they held the packages
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  back on Tuesday. But no big deal.
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  I got back, I clocked in at like 811, got back at 4:15 ish
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  4:20-ish. My God, you almost had to work a
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  whole day. I know.
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  And then Thursday, I only had 73 scans Thursday and I I actually
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  left the office 1/2 hour earlier than I did on Wednesday, but I
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  got back 1/2 hour later than I did Wednesday because it was all
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  I had. Three packed trays of DPS that
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  was all political crap. And that stuff's horrible.
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  The way it sticks to each other it.
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  Is it really is and you were having it so yeah my Thursday
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  was longer then I took Friday off to head over to booster.
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  I like to sit in on our state board meetings when I can.
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  So Ruby and Little Man and I after Thursday after work headed
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  over to Traverse City and went and did my thing on Friday.
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  Gave Ruby the car and she went and picked her sister up after
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  school and they came back. It was at Great Wolf Lodge so it
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  worked out perfect. Saturday was Ruby's 18th
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  birthday. She has officially applied to be
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  an RCA and tomorrow is Little Sister's 14th birthday.
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  So yesterday, why? They were having fun at the
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  water park at Great Wolf. Little Man spent the day with me
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  in the booster meeting, so everybody was thrilled to see
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  him. I think he was really the
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  highlight of the weekend for most of everybody there.
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  Oh, babies are the greatest icebreaker in the world.
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  Aren't they though? They were great.
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  It was awesome to see the first timers there.
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  One particular that James and I have talked to many, many times,
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  Carrier's first timer, she has a very problematic office, but she
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  is going to let me share with the fact that, you know, she's
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  been with the post office for 10 years.
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  She had attended one local meeting in the past, was not
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  thrilled with how that meeting went and didn't do anything
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  else. You know, all the older carriers
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  in the office, like, oh, union stuff's nothing but a party.
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  And she, she came and she is very, very glad that she came
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  because she learned a lot. She got a lot of good
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  information. She met a lot of great, awesome
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  people. And the information that she
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  got, she's able to take back to her office to share with the
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  rest of the carriers and say, look, this was not a party.
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  He was more tired at the end of Saturday than she was after
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  working the day after Columbus Day.
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  So yes, guys, those that think it is just a party, it is not a
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  party and it is this that easy to go and to get that
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  information and make those connections.
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  Yeah, same way with National, except for it's a week long non
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  party party. Yes, you know, between the
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  resolutions and the appeals and everything else.
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  No, it's we, we, we save Thursday night for a party
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  because that's after caucus. Everything's done and you know,
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  it's in the hands of God after that.
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  But the the rest of the time you're working your your ass off
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  and then, you know, turn around on Fridays, usually a day from
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  hell if you got a lot of resolutions.
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  Yeah, also, she's still processing what happened at
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  National I. Will I will say this, I will say
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  this, the pictures that you see of the people quote, UN quote,
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  partying are US burning the energy that we got while sitting
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  there working on business for hours on end.
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  It is, and most of the time that you see people outside of the
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  banquet photos, you see people's gathered around with drinks and
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  stuff. We're actually still working.
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  We're going through resolutions or where it's the wind down so
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  we can try and get a nap before we do it all over again the next
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  day. Yeah, 2 pads and pens going, you
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  know, notes made on the resolution sheets.
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  Oh, all that stuff. I mean, yeah, well, we had 383
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  this year. Something like that, yeah, I
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  mean. That was a.
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  And it's some people don't get through all of them, some people
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  do. You know, it depends on how long
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  you can keep yourself awake to do them because you have to go
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  through it. You have to decipher the intent
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  behind it because they don't give you anything but the be it
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  resolved portion of the resolution.
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  So you have to understand why they're bringing that forth,
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  understand why it should be included or not before you make
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  a decision whether you want to actually vote for it or object
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  to it, to get it to a floor vote where people can actually
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  discuss it and things like that. And of course, objecting to
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  things makes the days go longer. If it was easier, if everything
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  just passed and it was done and over with, it make everybody's
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  life easier. But that's not the whole point.
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  The point is for us to actually sit there and discuss these
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  issues and get together to the consensus of what we think that
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  the crash should have and. Oh, and that first time I was
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  talking about says she is going to try to go to everything now.
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  Yay. So you know, I may end up with a
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  new travel buddy. You may I may I offered rooming
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  and travel. So let's do it.
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  She's listening too. I see so.
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  And then James, after you go through all the resolutions,
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  binding and non binding, sit there and you shake your head
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  and you go, well, Don's only taking 20 or 30 to the table.
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  Closer to 20. Yeah.
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  But anything that we started, you know, this year wouldn't
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  touch the contract negotiations to the next one.
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  Yep. So Speaking of union events, we
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  had our fall booster and there is one very important thing that
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  was said at our fall booster that I think everybody listening
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  to this podcast should know. And this comes direct from the
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  mouth of our state president who stated he went at National
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  Convention and spoke to the legal team of the NRLCA on this.
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  And any member of the NRLCA can join any meeting, function,
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  convention across the nation if they so choose, as long as they
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  are a member in good standing. So as they're a member of this
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  union, they can attend those meetings.
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  So either not beholden to just go to just your county meeting
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  or your local meeting or your state convention or your state's
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  booster. You could choose to go say, to
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  Michigan's fall booster or some other state's fall booster or
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  spring booster or maybe mid states slack back any of those
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  regional conventions, conferences, or even all the way
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  up to the National Convention. You can even attend if you are
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  not a delegate to the National Convention.
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  And being that you are an NRLCA member, they cannot make you
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  leave the room when business is being conducted, which they do
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  for visitors and guests. Now just remember though, if you
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  were to go to a local meeting or even a different state
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  convention, you and if it was like an annual local meeting,
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  you as a not part of that local or part of that state, you would
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  not have any voting rights. You could just go to observe and
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  and meet people and hear the information.
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  You could, you could ask somebody to have them suspend
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  the rules if you really, really, really needed to speak, but that
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  would require a vote on the floor for them to suspend the
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  rules to allow you to speak. That is one of those caveats
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  there, yeah. And I believe that's a 2/3
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  majority too. Correct.
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  So suspending to making any changes to the rules or the
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  Constitution requires a 2/3 vote.
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  I vote more than once. I'm I'm going.
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  To to bring something up that got talked about not at booster,
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  but was talked about. I'm not going to talk about
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  exactly stuff that was I I, I can't talk about anything that
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  was talked to the state board one.
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  But this one I'm going to quote up just kind of talk about a
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  little bit because there was something in here about a Zoom
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  option would be helpful for those meetings.
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  And somebody else brought up about that was brought up as
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  well. That was elected as as a local
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  president and having Zoom. It was talked about a little bit
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  and there was some things that brought out that it's just
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  there's too many unknowns when it comes to having Zoom
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  meetings. Let's put it for a local type
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  thing as well as, and some experiences of being another
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  observer had brought up with being on a board for like a
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  nonprofit or something of an else of that nature.
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  It's just, it's not a good way to conduct a business via Zoom
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  if it was like a local meeting or something like that.
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  But where it comes with the with the unknowns is you just don't
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  know who is sitting in to the side with whoever's attending
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  when it become for a Zoom meeting.
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  So I mean, something like that was discussed.
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  I will just because it was brought up here, you kind of
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  have to think about it. Yes, I mean for informational
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  parts and again and things that were brought up would be you
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  don't know if somebody's friends with management and management
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  happens to be sitting in for non members or something of somebody
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  that it could get out to where it's not supposed to get out.
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  Or somebody who goes to meetings just to give management
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  information because they themselves want to become
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  managers. Exactly.
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  So I or I, the only reason I'm bringing this up because it was
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  talked about, but is just because I did see it here.
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  I get it. I understand it.
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  And this was the same thing too. We understand a lot of times
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  people are unable to attend their local regional meetings
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  for, you know, various reasons, whether it's the distance, the
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  timing, babysitter family, you know, I know for me for, for my
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  local meetings, I drive an hour. You know, that's not always
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  feasible for everybody, especially if you're working
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  later or depending on the times. You know, I know some some
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  locals do Sunday meetings because it's such a big, big
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  area and so they try to bring it in.
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  But that's not always feasible either, especially if people
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  have to travel. I'm going to give example for
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  the UP of Michigan, for example, is 1 local.
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  So you've got hundreds of miles that people may have to go to go
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  to a local meeting. I understand where Zoom would
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  seem to be a good idea to try and get more people present, but
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  there's just way too many underlying unknowns on it.
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  I'm just putting that out there, as you know, yes, it seems like
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  a great idea. It'd be awesome to try and get
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  more people involved to do that. But when you have to take a step
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  back and think about the underlying unknowns, yeah.
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  Of course, like having a podcast and having the people you know
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  relay the information to the national board.
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  And if they remember, you know, you can't stop them from coming.
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  And that's the one thing is if you got somebody from out of an
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  area now, it's one thing if you're in a local and you're
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  going to another local meeting in the state, you know, they can
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  get a local membership print out from the secretary.
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  And we all know how quickly some of those things changed with
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  revolving door of RCAS regulars that may left or retired and
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  didn't rejoin or but when it comes to if you're like let's
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  say I went to go visit Bill for a week or whatever and he will.
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  Was having a local meeting and he said hey come with me but if
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  he but he could vet me. But at the same time, not
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  everybody else may know that they're there.
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  Get a hold of your state secretary if you don't have a
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  current union membership card and they can get those for you.
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  I know a lot of people that were at national got new membership
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  cards this year. So if you don't have 1:00 and
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  you're interested in maybe going to a different meeting, get a
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  hold of your state secretary and they will make sure that they
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  that they will get you a up to date membership card.
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  That way you at least have that to present if you do go to a
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  meeting that is not of your locale.
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  Another good option right there was bring a magazine with your
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  name on it. Exactly.
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  You know, if you have the current edition of the magazine
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  that can be used technically as proof that you are a member at
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  the time the magazine came out, so.
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  Yeah. I mean, those are.
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  Options. Yeah, in Pennsylvania they only
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  update the list twice a year when they send out our news
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  check national and you know you've got a lot of people
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  changing that six month period. So unless you have an updated
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  list, but in a lot of meetings are open too.
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  And I mean, yeah, they they have people that can just walk in
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  there. Not even non members.
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  If it's an open meeting, non members are allowed to
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  participate. Regional conferences, yeah, so.
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  Yeah, I mean there's. A few things that came out this
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  weekend that are are are good to know, you know.
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  So if you guys want to participate and have the means
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  to be able to participate, you can participate.
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  You don't have to say anything, you don't have to get up the
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  mic, you don't have to ask questions, you don't have to put
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  in resolutions. But there is so much information
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  you can learn from every single one of these, every single union
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  event, there is information you can learn.
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  Even myself and the podcast presenters here, every meeting
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  we go to, we learn new things, we learn new information.
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  It's a never ending thing and especially in a job where things
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  change constantly, especially procedures to do certain things,
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  equipment, stuff like that changes that gets addressed at
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  these events. We could talk about the scanner
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  stuff. I mean, there's still questions
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  going on about the activity scans for Rex.
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  There's still questions on management's ability to tell us
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  what we can and cannot put in their scanners.
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  And you get that information there.
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  And plus, it's really good, even if you've heard it before, to
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  hear it again to reinforce it because one of the best ways to
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  ensure you get it right is to hear it over and over
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  repetitively. Learn it over and over
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  repetitively because it go. It's better to go from your
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  short term to your long term in that aspect that you learn it
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  over and over. And yes, the availability is the
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  hardest part for everybody like myself.
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  I would have loved to have gone to my state board meeting, but I
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  could not afford to go. I had to work instead, so I
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  ended up going after the board meeting, which was Friday.
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  So sometimes sacrifices have to be made for that kind of stuff
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  too, in order to protect yourself in the future.
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  I. Just I just hope I can get time
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  off the go to more of the regional conferences next year.
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  Yeah, I've been asked to go to Eastern states as well as SAC.
• 23:49
  I I'm thinking about it, you know, I've been asked to
• 23:54
  accompany some other people to sack and I you know, I'm
• 23:58
  thinking about it. It's going to have to fall
• 24:00
  financially being January Eastern states.
• 24:04
  I was thinking about it because that's my birthday falls in the
• 24:07
  midst of that. And but at the same time I'm
• 24:11
  thinking about it and I'm going that's the third weekend of
• 24:14
  March, the very the 1st of March, I'm I'm already off.
• 24:17
  That's my tattoo Expo weekend. Everybody knows I do that first
• 24:21
  weekend of March. The next weekend of March is our
• 24:23
  spring booster. And then the following weekend
• 24:26
  is Eastern States and I'm going, oh man, I don't know.
• 24:30
  I'm still going to try, but I can't make any promises.
• 24:34
  Where? Where's Eastern states this
• 24:35
  year? Maryland.
• 24:37
  Come on down, you can room with me.
• 24:40
  All right. You don't have to sleep with me
• 24:42
  though. You.
• 24:43
  Just room with me. Well, I have a roommate too.
• 24:45
  I think my my roomie from one of my roomies from national is the
• 24:50
  one that invited me. So you know we're thinking about
• 24:53
  it. I'm just trying to think if I
• 24:55
  can well have enough, you know, leave wise to who knows I may
• 25:00
  end up with some X days to burn. I always get with trying to earn
• 25:04
  the next day if I know I'm going to use up my annual, but I
• 25:07
  prefer I can't afford to L wap you.
• 25:09
  I wish I me. Too, But.
• 25:11
  No, it's yeah. I mean, there was some good
• 25:14
  information. I am I, you know, we had another
• 25:18
  postmaster come in and talk about edit books and mapping and
• 25:23
  I even learned some stuff about the edit books that I didn't.
• 25:26
  I am going to put together an edit book thing presentation
• 25:31
  that I want to do on an episode in the future.
• 25:35
  And so I know that was definitely some good information
• 25:38
  there. As we all know, everybody, not
• 25:41
  everybody can do it, but in newer carriers and even, you
• 25:46
  know, designated 70 fours and 70 nines would definitely benefit
• 25:49
  from edit book stuff as well. Some Christmas overtime stuff
• 25:53
  came about. We'll definitely be touching on
• 25:56
  Christmas overtime as we get closer to it for sure.
• 25:59
  I mean, there was some pretty really good information.
• 26:03
  I made some contacts with one of the other locals that is Co
• 26:10
  hosting by local and they're local as one region that we're
• 26:15
  going to be hosting state convention 2026.
• 26:19
  And since I am chair of it out of my local, I got in touch with
• 26:25
  the people that are working out of the other local for it.
• 26:29
  So we've, you know, swapped out information and contact stuff.
• 26:34
  So, you know, good, good weekend all around.
• 26:37
  For me anyways, Yeah. We also had a dermatologist
• 26:40
  talking about skin cancer, the sun, and proper ways to actually
• 26:46
  apply sunscreen versus the ways everybody else does the, you
• 26:50
  know, just rub it on and hope it works and they hope that as well
• 26:54
  codes. Have changed.
• 26:56
  So I do know in our most recent state magazine, I don't have
• 27:00
  that right in front of me. Like I said, I just got home.
• 27:02
  They did post the, the new DACA code, so we'll get on top of
• 27:06
  that as well. There is, you know, there's a
• 27:09
  lot of good information that we have coming up.
• 27:11
  So definitely I need to spend some time to sit down and get
• 27:16
  everything together in proper presentation order.
• 27:19
  There is also, which I know it's been put out before, but the
• 27:24
  NRLCA does have a supplemental benefits.
• 27:29
  This includes term life insurance, short, long term
• 27:32
  disability insurance, mental vision, hearing, accident,
• 27:36
  critical illness, hospital indemnity.
• 27:40
  I can't pronounce that word Insurance.
• 27:43
  Indemnity. And yeah, thank you.
• 27:45
  Discount programs and stuff like that.
• 27:48
  And this stuff is also available for Rcas and PTFS.
• 27:52
  So, you know, this is really good information.
• 27:57
  I've got a bunch of the handouts picked up, a small stack, so I
• 28:02
  can share with people, especially at my next local
• 28:04
  meeting as well as in my office. But we'll definitely get this,
• 28:10
  some of this information because not everybody hears about this,
• 28:13
  especially when it comes to disability insurance, short
• 28:16
  term, long term stuff. We all know post office doesn't
• 28:19
  supply that. A lot of people have to go out
• 28:21
  and get something like Aflac or something like that if they know
• 28:23
  something's coming up. But there is that stuff that's
• 28:26
  available as well as dental, vision and hearing, which is
• 28:30
  separate from benefits. So accident insurance for on and
• 28:36
  off job insurance, critical illness insurance, you know
• 28:39
  there. Is.
• 28:41
  Yeah. I mean there is a lot of good
• 28:44
  stuff here that I definitely want to pass on to everybody.
• 28:49
  I have eligibility eligibility requirements real quick on here.
• 28:54
  Eligibility requirements for term life, short term, long term
• 28:57
  disability through Symetra as well as critical illness,
• 29:02
  accident, hospital, indemnity insurance or through Hartford.
• 29:06
  You must be an active member in good standing of the NRLCA to
• 29:10
  apply. You must have must be actively
• 29:13
  at work and able to perform all duties of your job and you must
• 29:17
  work at least 20 hours per week to be eligible for term life,
• 29:20
  short term and long term disability.
• 29:22
  That's the three requirements right there.
• 29:25
  So it's nrlca.benefithub.com For more information.
• 29:31
  I will scan this in and pass it along as well.
• 29:35
  So yeah, there there is a, oh, there's a QR code.
• 29:38
  I'll just post the QR code and make it easy.
• 29:40
  As well as our legislative Rep for our state has these awesome
• 29:47
  little contact cards talking about the House bills, the HR
• 29:52
  3721, which is the shipping, the alcohol bill, the HR 5995, the
• 29:59
  buyback, HR 82 which is Social Security.
• 30:02
  HR 856 is the paid FMLA leave. HR 7629, protect our carriers,
• 30:10
  HR 7527, mail traffic. HR 866 is equal COLA.
• 30:17
  Those are the House bills, the Senate bills, the S 597 Social
• 30:22
  Security, the S 274, the paid FM IFMLA leave, the S 4356 Protect
• 30:32
  Our Carriers, and the S 5069, the ship alcohol and the S 3194
• 30:39
  Equal Cola. I'm going to scan this in and
• 30:42
  share it with everybody. It's just a really quick QR
• 30:45
  code. It pulls up the congress.gov,
• 30:47
  allows you to punch in your locale, to pull up who your
• 30:51
  senators and your House reps are, to call them, e-mail them,
• 30:55
  write a letter. I will get this information out
• 30:58
  to everybody. I.
• 30:59
  Just posted it in our chats. The bills themselves, if you
• 31:02
  guys want to reference that as well, what we just talked about.
• 31:05
  I've also posted them in the United We Scan podcast group as
• 31:10
  well as Royal Mail Carriers United group so you guys can
• 31:13
  find them there as well. Yes, and just help putting.
• 31:15
  Them together, the house numbers will change because they have to
• 31:19
  be reintroduced. Yes, but if you get them to
• 31:22
  actually go on it now, they could actually move it up and
• 31:25
  hopefully get it done before the end of the year if you try.
• 31:32
  Sorry, I had I had to be a comedian there for a minute.
• 31:37
  Yes. An explanation of advantages and
• 31:39
  disadvantages of an RCA working both an OX route and a regular
• 31:43
  route. In our office we call the call
• 31:45
  the six and O and the five in one.
• 31:47
  I from experience can talk about this as well.
• 31:53
  Yep definitely. I did an aux route 5 in one.
• 31:56
  I'm a non formula office so I had the option of doing the five
• 32:00
  in one. Formula offices are 6 day aux
• 32:04
  routes only. Now as one I can specifically
• 32:08
  speak on the five in one. Our current aux carrier is a six
• 32:12
  day aux carrier. But with the five in one you
• 32:15
  have your primary route. You have your in your aux route.
• 32:19
  I ran my aux route 5 days a week.
• 32:21
  Ran my primary on their relief day or any other time that they
• 32:27
  need it off. In most cases, depending on your
• 32:29
  office and your coverage, normally if you're running your
• 32:33
  primary, they will have somebody else run your ox route those
• 32:36
  days. In my instance, I ran both.
• 32:40
  And then of course for that two Christmases ago when I was the
• 32:44
  only RCA in the office, I ran my ox route and everything else.
• 32:48
  But yeah, I did live at the post office at that time, set up a
• 32:52
  cot in the back. I live close enough I didn't
• 32:55
  have to do that. And then six day OX routes.
• 32:58
  And if you're on assigned an OX route, you're not on the matrix,
• 33:02
  just have to remember that. But they can ask you to do
• 33:05
  anything after you run your OX route.
• 33:09
  They can ask you to assist or split a route or even go to
• 33:15
  another office that does not fall under a full route.
• 33:19
  A regular it is an OX route, so. They can, they can.
• 33:25
  They can assign you work up to 12 hours total with 1/2 hour
• 33:31
  lunch. So you have 11 1/2 hours of work
• 33:34
  plus 1/2 hour lunch. And so if your OX route is 4
• 33:39
  hours, they can assign you 7 1/2 hours of work, or a total of 12
• 33:46
  straight hours is all they can do.
• 33:49
  Anything beyond that is grievable.
• 33:52
  And yes, if you're on a knocks route, you could still be in on
• 33:55
  that Sunday and holiday rotation.
• 33:57
  Just saying that that doesn't exempt you.
• 34:00
  We'll we'll go into more depth on it too in another episode.
• 34:04
  So because I know we've got quite a bit to cover here with
• 34:08
  what's going on. With.
• 34:09
  Our City side brothers and sisters, I'm.
• 34:13
  Going to let you hold up. Hold up.
• 34:16
  I have APSA here. OK.
• 34:18
  I have 21 messages this week about the political mail being
• 34:25
  individually endorsed. Do not do not do it under PM
• 34:30
  casing. End of shift duty.
• 34:33
  End of shift. Thank you.
• 34:35
  The majority of people responded that their PM or supervisor told
• 34:42
  them it's APM casing duty. It is not.
• 34:46
  You are not casing it, you are endorsing it for their
• 34:50
  instructions. Get that time put on your
• 34:53
  evaluation ladies and gentlemen. I mean, if you've got, you know,
• 34:57
  40-50 pieces, get the time the. Only two things that should be
• 35:03
  done under PM casing is M casing if it is allowed in your office
• 35:09
  for the next day, mail that comes in in the afternoon for
• 35:13
  the next day. If your office is allowed to
• 35:16
  case it, that is done under PM casing.
• 35:20
  I don't. There's maybe only a few a
• 35:21
  handful that do that anymore. The main one is second trips.
• 35:26
  PM casing stops the clock for end of shift duties.
• 35:32
  Mapping end of shift duties. There's a third one, Kristen.
• 35:37
  Is there? What's the third one?
• 35:38
  The third one is you are providing assistance on another
• 35:43
  route as a regular carrier. Yes, because you get time and a
• 35:48
  half overtime under the voluntary work you do on another
• 35:55
  route on your standard work days.
• 35:59
  You do not volunteer to help on your relief day.
• 36:04
  You cannot get paid for volunteering on your relief day.
• 36:09
  James, I'll just add it to your Monday, OK?
• 36:11
  Don't worry. Help me out here.
• 36:12
  James, help me out, please. Don't want?
• 36:14
  Sorry PM casing assisting on something outside of your normal
• 36:19
  route as a regular on a non relief day and the main one is
• 36:25
  second trips. Honestly that's the main 1:00 PM
• 36:28
  casing stops the clock for end of shift duties plain and
• 36:32
  simple. Anything else that?
• 36:34
  You. On PM casing is going to be
• 36:39
  either the overtime rate persisting on other routes, your
• 36:42
  second trip rate, your 33 minutes a mile EMA if you're in
• 36:48
  a PO v / 40 miles total for the day, and.
• 36:52
  That's a load of shit. There, Yeah, I agree and.
• 36:55
  Then and then the PM casing of mail for the next day when it's
• 37:00
  allowed in your office that goes towards your your office time
• 37:05
  for so that literally. Goes we have to clarify that the
• 37:09
  mail for the next day is not the mail you bring back from the
• 37:14
  route. It is mail that was either left
• 37:18
  in the morning or mail that arrived in the afternoon and was
• 37:23
  there when you got back to the office.
• 37:25
  It is not mail you bring back from the street that is covered
• 37:28
  under end of shift duties in the PO6O3 anything.
• 37:32
  That you bring back from the route.
• 37:34
  And I'm going to iterate anything you bring back from the
• 37:37
  route. Your markups, your, your, your
• 37:39
  three M mail, your any of that stuff is end of shift duties,
• 37:44
  including as bad weather is approaching and has approached
• 37:49
  in some areas with hurricanes and whatnot.
• 37:51
  If it's not safe and I'm talking about with when you're coming in
• 37:55
  and you got to bring back 3/4 of that route in case it back up
• 37:59
  because it was not safe for you, fill out that 1767 if you have
• 38:03
  to. That again is end of shift
• 38:05
  duties, not PM casing. OK, we're going to move on.
• 38:10
  All right. We keep adding more and more to
• 38:14
  this, I know. I've been gone for a couple
• 38:17
  weeks. I'm sorry guys, go ahead, but
• 38:19
  that's. The whole point of this podcast
• 38:22
  is for information. It's to help educate and get
• 38:27
  people looking at these things like the PO6O3 end of shift
• 38:31
  duties and things like that. So that's why we're here.
• 38:35
  So these questions people ask in the chat that we're responding
• 38:38
  to while we're recording, this is right in line with what we
• 38:42
  want to do on this podcast. And that is to help our carriers
• 38:47
  look where they need to get the answers from the actual
• 38:51
  documents on the union website or from the documents they can
• 38:57
  get from their postmaster. Because your postmaster can get
• 38:59
  you a copy of the PO6O3. You're supposed to be one at
• 39:03
  every case. Exactly.
• 39:05
  Supposed to be. Supposed supposedly haven't used
• 39:10
  that word in a little while. You.
• 39:11
  Know and and who and where to go to find that assistance that you
• 39:16
  need for your particular office when it comes to regards of
• 39:21
  needing to reach out for the proper.
• 39:26
  It doesn't need the meeting Rep. Exactly.
• 39:29
  You know you've got an issue. Obviously we can't do that for
• 39:32
  you, but we will definitely help you locate who your steward is.
• 39:35
  Yeah, we tried that once, didn't we?
• 39:37
  Yeah, we did. I just, I just had to help a
• 39:40
  carrier figure out who their steward was when they did a a
• 39:45
  changeover of the steward system on their part of their area.
• 39:49
  So I had to help them figure out who their steward was.
• 39:52
  It was really easy to do. I pointed them where to look at
• 39:55
  the website, put in their zip code, and they found it.
• 39:57
  And they were so thankful just to be able to find that at that
• 40:00
  point because they were distraught.
• 40:03
  And it's right there on the front homepage of the website,
• 40:06
  on the computer or under departments Stewart Operations
• 40:12
  Find my Steward on your mobile device on the app.
• 40:16
  They're the ones that can definitely help you the most.
• 40:19
  Yeah, so. We've been trying to avoid
• 40:21
  talking about carriers so far because we know exactly how this
• 40:27
  is going to go and we are of the mindset that we're going to try
• 40:33
  and be as calm and civil about this as possible.
• 40:38
  Bringing forth this information, it is unfortunately hot garbage.
• 40:44
  The best term to use, Not even worth the paper it's written on.
• 40:48
  And I'm just. Going to say this real quick.
• 40:51
  This does not affect rural carriers directly.
• 40:55
  At this time, we do not know when our contract will have a or
• 41:00
  you know when we'll have a tentative agreement.
• 41:02
  We do not know what will be in our tentative agreement.
• 41:05
  We do not know if it'll mirror anything that has come out with
• 41:09
  the tentative agreement with the City side.
• 41:12
  We don't know. So we can't say one way or
• 41:16
  another on anything that affects the world craft because we don't
• 41:21
  know. But history has shown us that
• 41:25
  when 1 union turns around and gets a bad contract like 2 tier
• 41:34
  pay systems, that even if it were to go to arbitration,
• 41:40
  there's a high possibility that the rest of the crafts could get
• 41:45
  close to something similar. So we always have to be of the
• 41:49
  mindset that we need to let our national officers be aware that
• 41:57
  we are watching and we want the best for our crafts.
• 42:01
  But. At the same time, this is not
• 42:06
  our tentative agreement. That's.
• 42:08
  No. So this is this is city
• 42:11
  carriers, this is your city brothers and sisters.
• 42:15
  So the world carriers that are out there, this is what your
• 42:17
  city brothers and sisters are looking down the barrel of when
• 42:20
  they vote for their tentative agreement as a ratification
• 42:23
  vote. So it is a 42 month agreement
• 42:26
  from May 20, 2023 to November 7th, 2020.
• 42:32
  Sixth, all letter carriers will receive a 1.3% increase per
• 42:41
  year. The 1st 2:00 will be paid
• 42:45
  retroactively because this contract will not be signed
• 42:49
  until probably the end of November, beginning of December
• 42:53
  after the vote is taken. If it's voted through but it's a
• 42:57
  1.3% per year pay increase, they will get a cost of living
• 43:03
  adjustment increased by 1 cent per hour for each 0.4 point
• 43:10
  increase of the consumer price index.
• 43:14
  So that would be first one would be 978 retroactive, second 1353
• 43:21
  retroactive, third one 978 retroactive.
• 43:26
  So the two. Tier pay system is prorated.
• 43:30
  It will be prorated like the two tier pay system, and the two
• 43:36
  tier system is not going away. They will be removing steps AA
• 43:43
  A&B from Table 2, moving all carriers on those steps up to
• 43:50
  Step C, with the Step C carriers remaining as well as the rest
• 43:56
  above remaining at their current steps.
• 44:00
  Their annual wage in Step P, top step on one and two shall be
• 44:08
  increased by $1000 within 180 days of ratification.
• 44:15
  In addition to the general wage and Colas, they're getting an
• 44:17
  extra $1000 added on at Step P and then all Table 10.
• 44:27
  Step P equals our our step 12. Step 12.
• 44:31
  Step 15. Yeah, right.
• 44:33
  Yeah. And then other.
• 44:35
  Coding on there. Yes.
• 44:37
  And then step P, which is the top step, will be
• 44:40
  administratively slotted into step P of Table 2 immediately.
• 44:47
  Cable carriers, Table 1 carriers and steps O and below will be,
• 44:52
  upon reaching step P, administratively slotted into
• 44:55
  step P of Table 2. It's purely administrative, will
• 44:58
  not affect the wages in any way, which means they are eliminating
• 45:02
  table one as the carriers reach the top step.
• 45:07
  So technically this contract is starting to eliminate the two
• 45:11
  tables, but it's literally keeping Table 2 while pushing
• 45:15
  everybody on table one to Table 2.
• 45:18
  When they hit the top step, CC AS will receive an additional 1%
• 45:26
  increase on top of the current 1.3 in this contract.
• 45:30
  So they will receive a 2.3% increase each year and an
• 45:37
  additional $0.50 an hour. Carriers will receive a uniform
• 45:44
  allowance increasement of 536 in May 21, 2025, plus an additional
• 45:52
  125 for a newly eligible carrier.
• 45:56
  So CCA caps will be remain the same.
• 46:01
  However, the number allowed in each district will be based on
• 46:04
  the career C letter carrier complement, so the CCA position
• 46:08
  is remaining. Conversion to career status will
• 46:13
  remain. Holiday carrier assistant
• 46:15
  remains. Multi installation carrier
• 46:18
  technician assignments remains. No changes to the cost.
• 46:23
  The health insurance will remain at 72% and will be capped at 75%
• 46:29
  of any given plan. Premium and tentative agreement
• 46:33
  Maintains postal services bi weekly contributions of 75% of
• 46:37
  the premiums for self plus self only a S plus one or South plus
• 46:42
  family for city carrier assistance.
• 46:44
  Overtime provisions have been modified.
• 46:49
  The new Section 4 dot G has been created which guarantees pay at
• 46:55
  the rate of 2 1/2 time, the base hourly straight time rate for
• 47:00
  all letter carriers for any work beyond 12 hours in a day and 60
• 47:05
  hours in a service week. Previously, agreements would
• 47:08
  have to be filed for carriers to be provided the additional pay
• 47:11
  for violations of the of the 1260 work hour limitations.
• 47:14
  This will no longer be necessary as the pay rate will now be
• 47:17
  automatically applied when these work hour limits are exceeded.
• 47:20
  So city carriers, you violate the FLSA by working over 1260,
• 47:26
  you just get 2 1/2 times pay instead of being able to go
• 47:29
  home. Overtime assignments remain the
• 47:33
  same. Layoff protection remains the
• 47:36
  same. Prohibitions of subcontracting
• 47:39
  remains. MOU on the City Delivery and
• 47:42
  Workplace Improvement Task Force.
• 47:45
  New employee experience retention and mentoring program.
• 47:48
  Joint workplace and improvement process remains new hold.
• 47:54
  On, hold on, Hold on, Hold on. Now those last three things that
• 47:57
  you have stated, yeah, these are task force.
• 48:01
  These are like the QWELI. This is like everything else in
• 48:05
  the past. They put together these task
• 48:06
  force and they don't do Jack shit.
• 48:10
  I mean, the last one is the joint workforce improvement
• 48:14
  process for the environment and culture in the post office.
• 48:19
  How many times have we heard this and how many?
• 48:22
  Times in the work environment. Every day, every damn day, what
• 48:27
  a waste. And and you know, if you look at
• 48:30
  this, these are task force that have to meet quarterly.
• 48:34
  This is just something for the business agents, for the city
• 48:36
  carriers that have to attend say that, you know, they're putting
• 48:40
  forth the effort of improving these working conditions, and
• 48:44
  there's not a person listening right now or be listening to the
• 48:48
  course of a week and say there's any improvement that's been made
• 48:51
  in the last six years. Yeah, this is just blowing smoke
• 48:56
  up the proverbial pipe. Here, here it gets even worse,
• 48:59
  gets even worse. Alternate route evaluation and
• 49:03
  adjustment process MOU is continued which talking about
• 49:09
  using the scanners for route adjustments for route
• 49:11
  measurements and things like that, as well as stationary
• 49:14
  events. People are getting harassed for
• 49:16
  that and the new MOU Fixed office time in a joint route
• 49:24
  evaluation and adjustment environment.
• 49:27
  The new I'm going to read this one because this is your one
• 49:33
  hour office time. This new MOU recognizes the need
• 49:39
  to modify methods for determining fixed office time to
• 49:42
  fit office activities in the current work environment, AKA
• 49:47
  one hour office times by recording most office activities
• 49:51
  other than casing mail and pulling down mail as either
• 49:54
  recurring or non recurring. Activities previously recorded
• 49:58
  underlying 813 through 13 and 15 would now be recorded underlying
• 50:03
  21. When determining minimum line
• 50:06
  item values in the modified method, the MOU would prohibit
• 50:09
  such values from being less than indicated values for the
• 50:12
  following line items. 14 accountables. 2 minutes vehicle
• 50:18
  inspection, 3 minutes personal needs, bathroom coffee. 5
• 50:24
  minutes office work not covered. 10 minutes.
• 50:28
  So your 43 minute office time starting standard.
• 50:35
  City carriers usually get 43 minutes as a base before they
• 50:40
  even start touching. Mail is now 15/18/20 minutes, so
• 50:47
  they just cut it more than half. There's your hour office time.
• 50:52
  Other provisions. Go ahead.
• 50:55
  Yeah, they're our office time. They, they went on, specified
• 50:59
  specifically that the SDC's, the automation is going to help you
• 51:05
  reduce your office time. If you're in an SDC like I was,
• 51:10
  it's a 5 minute walk to the bathroom and then you do your
• 51:13
  business in the five minute walk back.
• 51:15
  It takes you 3 minutes just walk to the doors to check your
• 51:18
  vehicle, let alone go out to your vehicle.
• 51:21
  And then in the my case, city carriers are in the back 40.
• 51:25
  They'll be able to walk out to the door, look and see if their
• 51:28
  truck's there and then walk back to their case.
• 51:30
  And they still won't be able to do it within that, you know, 3
• 51:33
  minute time. It, it, it's, it's, it's
• 51:36
  ludicrous. And they're, they're basing it
• 51:38
  on the fact that the FD and CS are more automated.
• 51:42
  No, you're not more automated. You're still getting political
• 51:45
  mail in your damn hamper with your parcels.
• 51:48
  You're still getting late mail. I did the, the, the, the
• 51:50
  question the other day from a carrier was do I have to do a
• 51:54
  second trip for political mail that they threw after we left
• 51:56
  for the Oh, no, that's not what it's specified.
• 51:59
  You know, if you're given a direct order, get it in writing
• 52:02
  round dated, get it signed, then grieve it.
• 52:05
  That's not what second trips were designed for.
• 52:08
  And you know people, if you don't know, question it,
• 52:13
  challenge it. Just don't take it like she'd
• 52:15
  because they said so. And I can tell you a proper
• 52:19
  vehicle inspection will take more than the one minute we get
• 52:25
  or the three minutes that they're getting a proper
• 52:28
  inspection to make sure a vehicle is roadworthy.
• 52:31
  The size of the LV will take a minute minimum of 6 minutes, and
• 52:38
  that's not even popping the hood and checking the oil and the
• 52:40
  other things that I used to have to do as a truck driver to make
• 52:43
  sure my vehicle is safe to operate on the road.
• 52:45
  Those ones take 15 minutes on a semi truck minimum, and that's
• 52:49
  if you're just looking at everything and not actually
• 52:51
  touching anything and making sure it's actually correct.
• 52:55
  And and remember there are two time standards for checking your
• 52:58
  truck. The 1st is your walking distance
• 53:01
  and then from your door you get to walk around and examine the
• 53:04
  vehicle and check the the workings of the lights, horns,
• 53:08
  wipers and everything else. That's an interesting start.
• 53:12
  Run. You know the parking brake
• 53:14
  works, brakes work, throttle works, horn horn works,
• 53:19
  headlights, pie beams, turn signals, flashers, brake lights,
• 53:24
  reverse lights. Check all your tires for proper
• 53:27
  tread depth, air pressure, check your underside for oil leaks,
• 53:32
  check. Make sure everything is properly
• 53:34
  mounted and secured underneath the vehicle, including your
• 53:36
  exhaust, your, your drive shaft transmission, your differential,
• 53:40
  etcetera. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to
• 53:44
  inspect on a vehicle to make sure it's roadworthy, but then
• 53:46
  again, look at what we're driving.
• 53:49
  The most important thing does it have gas?
• 53:53
  Yeah, that too. Yeah.
• 53:56
  All right, other contractual provisions, they added Article
• 54:01
  2.1, the language will be changed to include pregnancy as
• 54:06
  a protected class and to replace the term handicapped employees
• 54:11
  with individuals with disabilities.
• 54:15
  That's not bad. The pregnancy is a very
• 54:17
  important one because I do know that a lot of female carriers
• 54:21
  get harassed when they are pregnant by management
• 54:24
  especially and it's not fair because it's a natural thing.
• 54:33
  Article I got. I got harassed for helping a
• 54:36
  pregnant carrier and somebody said that's not your job duty.
• 54:39
  I says I know it's the basics of human, you know, compassion.
• 54:44
  Yeah, human decency. It's you know, just because you
• 54:49
  come to work doesn't mean you have to stop being a human
• 54:52
  being. Yeah, like at my office we have
• 54:55
  a clerk that's like 5 foot two, maybe 5 foot four.
• 54:58
  I'm not sure exactly her height because I'm 6 foot three.
• 55:02
  And she goes, hey, can you come grab these Amazon parcels off
• 55:04
  the top so I don't pull them off onto my head?
• 55:08
  I go over there and I help her because guess what?
• 55:10
  Somebody's got to help. Work together, we.
• 55:14
  Actually work together because we're all in this together.
• 55:19
  Article 88.3 all part time flexible and City Carrier
• 55:24
  assistant employees will be guaranteed a minimum of one non
• 55:28
  scheduled day each service week except during the penalty
• 55:31
  overtime exclusion period. Management will know PTF, modify
• 55:35
  PTF and CTA employees of their assigned NS day by the Wednesday
• 55:39
  preceding the service week announced.
• 55:42
  The relief carriers get a non scheduled day just like regular
• 55:46
  carriers. OK, I'm not against that either.
• 55:48
  I'm not against that, but with the lack of people that we have,
• 55:53
  how, how often are they going to violate that?
• 55:57
  Yeah, exactly. Article 10 monetization of
• 56:01
  annual leave. This MOU provides career
• 56:06
  employees the opportunity now, this keyword opportunity, to
• 56:12
  hold up, sell back up to 40 hours of annual leave prior to
• 56:16
  the beginning of the leave year if they are at the carryover
• 56:18
  maximum and they have used fewer than 75 sick leave hours in the
• 56:23
  year immediately preceding the year for which the leave is
• 56:25
  being exchanged. Shall I translate that?
• 56:29
  Yeah, please. Monetization of annual leave.
• 56:34
  This new MOU gives management the ability to keep you from
• 56:39
  using your annual leave, forcing you to sell it back to
• 56:44
  management to get money because management will not let you take
• 56:48
  leave. That sound a little bit better?
• 56:52
  I think that's the proper translation, yeah.
• 56:55
  Yeah, I I think that that simplifies it.
• 56:59
  Basically, they're not letting you pile it up so that you know
• 57:03
  you can put the screws to them at the end of your career.
• 57:07
  That or you can't use them ever again.
• 57:11
  Yeah, you can't use leave. You have to keep working.
• 57:14
  You have to still continue to be on on the work floor instead of
• 57:18
  actually taking one of the benefits that is that you're
• 57:21
  supposed to get as as a carrier in the company.
• 57:26
  CCA advanced annual leave Upon completion of an initial 360 day
• 57:33
  appointment as a city carrier assistant and immediately upon
• 57:36
  reappointment to any subsequent appointments, CCA's will be
• 57:40
  advanced 40 hours of annual leave.
• 57:43
  Upon implementation, CCA's will receive annual leave prorated to
• 57:47
  the end of their 360 day term. So it's basically just like the
• 57:51
  RCA's earning leave on our end. Only it's going to be advanced
• 57:55
  to them. It's a little bit better than
• 57:59
  our leave for our CAS on that aspect.
• 58:02
  PTF Advanced Annual Leave is the same thing, prorated the end of
• 58:07
  the leave year for the first year of the PTF and annually
• 58:09
  thereafter unless the employee converts the full time status.
• 58:14
  Bereavement leave Sailor carriers up to three work days
• 58:19
  of leave to make arrangements necessitated by death of a
• 58:21
  family member or attend the funeral of a family member.
• 58:24
  Grandchildren will be added to the existing list of defined
• 58:27
  family members. New MOU for time limitations
• 58:32
  concerning bone marrow, stem cell, blood, platelet and organ
• 58:35
  donation New MOU defines the amount of administrative we've
• 58:39
  granted and time limitations applicable to bone marrow, stem
• 58:43
  cell, blood, platelet and organ donations for career employees.
• 58:47
  Holidays observed added Juneteenth Holiday part time
• 58:52
  employee pay calculation for the part time flexible employees to
• 58:56
  reflect the addition of the Juneteenth holiday.
• 58:58
  Since PTS do not receive holiday pay per SE, Article 11.7
• 59:03
  provides with the holiday pay regular carriers received.
• 59:05
  It's built into the regular hourly rate for PTS New
• 59:09
  calculation provides the PTS will be concentrated for the 11
• 59:12
  holidays by basing the employees regular straight time hourly
• 59:15
  rate on the employee's annual rate divided by eleven 1992
• 59:20
  hours. It's already been in effect
• 59:22
  since 2022. Contractual change simply
• 59:25
  updates the language. Article 12 will be amended to
• 59:29
  remove any section of the language which do not apply to
• 59:31
  the City Letter Carrier Craft. Under Article 12 to B Language
• 59:36
  supervisors who return to the City Letter Carrier Craft will
• 59:39
  begin a new period of seniority unless they return within two
• 59:44
  years. The modified language would
• 59:46
  change this to one year. So they're saying if you're a
• 59:49
  supervisor for a year or more and you want to go back to the
• 59:51
  city carrier craft, your seniority will be at the bottom
• 59:55
  of the list. You'll be the junior carrier in
• 59:56
  the office. I like that. 112 Five C 8, which
• 1:00:01
  contains provisions regarding the involuntary reassignment of
• 1:00:04
  PTF employees over quota, will be deleted.
• 1:00:09
  Article 14. The new section established
• 1:00:12
  joint labor management safety committees at the district level
• 1:00:15
  for each of the 50 USPS districts. 3 These district
• 1:00:19
  safety committees will consist of at least two members from
• 1:00:21
  each party and will meet quarterly.
• 1:00:23
  District Safety Committees are responsible for assisting and
• 1:00:26
  implementing district wide safety initiative, facility
• 1:00:29
  communications between area and local safety committees and
• 1:00:32
  assisting local committees. The establishment of district
• 1:00:35
  Joint Labor Management Safety Committees follows a long
• 1:00:37
  standing pilot test in certain USPS districts under MOURE
• 1:00:41
  District Safety Committees pilot program.
• 1:00:43
  This MOU will be removed from national agreements that the
• 1:00:45
  committees will now be established nationwide in
• 1:00:47
  Article 14. Another committee that's not
• 1:00:50
  going to be listened to what what did?
• 1:00:52
  You say I wasn't listening. That's exactly what management
• 1:00:56
  does for those committees. All right, so This is why you're
• 1:01:01
  seeing air conditioned vehicles being portrayed in the news on
• 1:01:07
  this. But you have to listen to the
• 1:01:10
  language. This new MOU requires the Postal
• 1:01:15
  Service to make every effort to acquire vehicles equipped with
• 1:01:19
  air conditioning for use by City letter carrier craft employee.
• 1:01:23
  If USPS plans to acquire vehicles without air
• 1:01:26
  conditioning due to the climate in a particular geographic
• 1:01:29
  location or other factors, the issue must be discussed with the
• 1:01:32
  NALC. Additionally, USPS missed must
• 1:01:36
  continue to follow repair and maintenance procedures to ensure
• 1:01:39
  that any necessary maintenance or repairs to air conditioning
• 1:01:41
  systems are completed in a timely manner.
• 1:01:44
  Inspection of vehicle air conditioning systems will be
• 1:01:47
  included in preventative maintenance inspections as well.
• 1:01:50
  Catch the wording in that how? Does that help a carrier who's
• 1:01:54
  on a complete walkout route? Exactly, but also to make every
• 1:02:00
  effort that's as simple, it's a simple language that gives
• 1:02:04
  management and out to say we tried, we couldn't find any.
• 1:02:08
  You're going to have to drive these LL VS another 20 years
• 1:02:11
  because we can't find any vehicles that will last more
• 1:02:14
  than two years. Look at what happened to the
• 1:02:16
  Mercedes mattress. They're already failing and
• 1:02:18
  falling apart and being replaced by LL VS all over the place.
• 1:02:24
  Article 15 dispute resolution process testing this MO U found
• 1:02:31
  beginning on page 210 of the 19 to 23 agreement has modified to
• 1:02:35
  add the requirement for the task force begin meeting no later
• 1:02:38
  than 90 days after ratification and to meet no meet regularly no
• 1:02:43
  less than once a quarter. Then dispute resolution process
• 1:02:47
  step team B team procedures MO your places MOURE article 15
• 1:02:52
  dispute resolution process and the MOURE article 15 dispute
• 1:02:56
  resolution procedure task force and creates a new MOU outlining
• 1:03:00
  the guidelines and define responsibilities for the step B
• 1:03:03
  teams and the joint parties who oversee them.
• 1:03:06
  This new MOU is designed to streamline and prove the step B
• 1:03:08
  process to facilitate more rapid resolution of grievances.
• 1:03:12
  So just those two alone, dispute resolution process systems that
• 1:03:17
  they're doing basically they want to make resolutions of
• 1:03:21
  disputes quicker. And there's another one after
• 1:03:24
  this, but I wanted to talk about that really quick.
• 1:03:27
  They're basically changing the rules for the Step B teams and
• 1:03:31
  the dispute resolution process. So that is something that really
• 1:03:35
  needs to be looked at even deeper by city carriers because
• 1:03:40
  we already know from from a arbitration that they have
• 1:03:43
  issues with not having a consensus across the country
• 1:03:48
  when it comes to resolution the disputes.
• 1:03:51
  Right City City side R Cam. Yeah, City side J Cam.
• 1:03:55
  Yes, Yeah, J. Cam.
• 1:03:58
  The J Cam Yeah. And then establish a task force
• 1:04:03
  at the national level to jointly explore and work toward the
• 1:04:06
  development and implementation of an electronic grievance
• 1:04:10
  system for use by the parties. Parties will explore the
• 1:04:13
  potential functionality of the electronic grievance system,
• 1:04:16
  including but not limited to electronic grievance form.
• 1:04:18
  For all steps. Push notifications and
• 1:04:20
  grievances are appealed to. The next step time stands to
• 1:04:23
  record dates and times of action taken, responding to information
• 1:04:27
  requests and managing and storing documents.
• 1:04:29
  I like that one. Instead of having to wait for it
• 1:04:32
  to go from state, if it's a going to national, going from
• 1:04:36
  we'll go Florida, it ends up running through Palmetto,
• 1:04:40
  getting stuck there for two weeks before it finally makes
• 1:04:42
  its way to national office. You know it can be
• 1:04:45
  electronically sent and be there in 10 seconds.
• 1:04:47
  I still would want the paper copy so.
• 1:04:50
  The only problem with that is if they can go in there and
• 1:04:52
  manipulate it like they do the Rex program.
• 1:04:54
  So. Yeah.
• 1:04:56
  And I would, I would say that it would have to be something that
• 1:04:59
  both sides have verifications on.
• 1:05:02
  You know, like when I work, I use Google Docs for pretty much
• 1:05:05
  all my paperwork that I do that records every single basically
• 1:05:10
  keystroke that goes into that document and actually gives it
• 1:05:14
  the signature of the person doing the editing.
• 1:05:17
  So if there was a process for that, that would be the way that
• 1:05:19
  you would want to do that, to make sure that the stuff's not
• 1:05:22
  getting edited like that. We trust them.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:05:26
  And then this one, Article 1616 seven emergency procedure.
• 1:05:34
  So this is your EP emergency placement amended to allow
• 1:05:38
  carriers placed in an off duty status the right to use accrued
• 1:05:42
  annual leave to offset the non pay period.
• 1:05:46
  So if management decides to put you in emergency placement,
• 1:05:50
  whether it is for just reason or not, you have the choice to use
• 1:05:55
  your annual leave to pay out until you run out of annual
• 1:05:58
  leave while you're disputing the emergency placement.
• 1:06:02
  But if you win the grievance on the emergency placement, you're
• 1:06:06
  supposedly going to get back pay all the way back to when your
• 1:06:09
  emergency place. I don't see a provision here
• 1:06:12
  saying that if annual leave was used, it is recredited if you
• 1:06:15
  win the grievance. Yeah.
• 1:06:20
  And then they'll probably send you a letter of demand for the
• 1:06:24
  pay that they gave you while you were on EP.
• 1:06:26
  And that's after they already monetized your hours, after you
• 1:06:30
  stayed under 75 sick hours and you had more than 40 days, you
• 1:06:34
  know, available. Yeah, Labor Management Committee
• 1:06:39
  meetings amended to add a requirement for the local
• 1:06:41
  parties to meet at least twice a year.
• 1:06:43
  Discuss Labor management issues 17 Seven Dues check off change
• 1:06:48
  reflect the NALC will be taking over the dues processing for our
• 1:06:52
  members. Historically, the Postal Service
• 1:06:54
  has been responsible for allocating the dues to the local
• 1:06:57
  branches via postal finance numbers, which at times has
• 1:07:01
  created allocation errors. This contractual change will
• 1:07:04
  allow the NALC to control the dues allocation process and
• 1:07:08
  verify the distribution of funds to branches and state
• 1:07:11
  associations is properly completed.
• 1:07:13
  Additionally, the Postal Service will make voluntary allotment
• 1:07:16
  deductions authorized by carriers and provided by the
• 1:07:18
  Union. Which is so NRLCA already does
• 1:07:22
  though. Yeah, I can't.
• 1:07:25
  I can get behind that. Why?
• 1:07:27
  Why would the Postal Service have to pay out to multiple
• 1:07:30
  different union offices to pay to the NALC?
• 1:07:35
  And by the constitution of the NALC, it should be distributed
• 1:07:39
  the way that it's written in their constitutions.
• 1:07:41
  Which raises a question for me because of the fact that I live
• 1:07:44
  in county where they don't, you know, deduct my county tax yet
• 1:07:50
  they can do this for the city carriers on now.
• 1:07:53
  I mean, you know, you're talking about thousands of units that
• 1:07:56
  they're dispersing funds to. Yeah.
• 1:07:58
  Why do I why do I get stuck at the end of the year paying, you
• 1:08:01
  know, my 1% county tax every year?
• 1:08:03
  County and and some areas I have to pay local.
• 1:08:06
  Locals too, yeah. City tax anyway I.
• 1:08:09
  Live. I live in a mobile home, so you
• 1:08:11
  know they don't tax us. All Right Article 23 Rights of
• 1:08:16
  Union officials to enter postal Solicitations, Institution
• 1:08:21
  Installations This new MOU affirms that upon reasonable
• 1:08:25
  notice to the Postal Service, authorized representatives of
• 1:08:27
  the Union shall be permitted to enter postal installation for
• 1:08:31
  the purpose of performing and engaging in official Union
• 1:08:33
  duties and business related to collective bargaining agreement.
• 1:08:37
  This MOU clarifies that this right applies to elected or
• 1:08:40
  appointed national area local officers and representatives
• 1:08:44
  regardless of whether they are active USPS employees or
• 1:08:47
  retired. The MOU requires the Postal
• 1:08:50
  Service to provide officers and or NALC representative who are
• 1:08:54
  in a full time leave without pay status or retired the USPS
• 1:08:58
  Identification badge inter postal facilities within their
• 1:09:01
  respective locals. So this is basically just saying
• 1:09:05
  they have the right to enter these facilities upon reasonable
• 1:09:08
  notice. We have that provision in our
• 1:09:10
  contract as well. They have a list of continued MO
• 1:09:15
  use that kept going. However, the following MO US
• 1:09:20
  have been removed. FSS implementation, FSS work
• 1:09:25
  methods, District Safety committee's pilot program,
• 1:09:28
  basically the ones we talked about before.
• 1:09:31
  So here's the general wage increases and protected Colas.
• 1:09:39
  Now remember this goes back to when the contract expired.
• 1:09:46
  So you have to remember the wage increase that you're going to
• 1:09:51
  get is already listed in the back pay up to the new table
• 1:09:57
  implementation that they have on here, which includes 123456 wage
• 1:10:05
  increases, 4 cost of living adjustments and two general
• 1:10:11
  increases. So back pay.
• 1:10:14
  But at the same time. It's a nice back pay, but when
• 1:10:20
  you go at the beginning of the contract for a table to city
• 1:10:28
  carrier on step C, they start at $50,153.
• 1:10:38
  Right now with the new implementation 53,000 four O 7
• 1:10:43
  city carrier assistance at current prices on BB table on
• 1:10:50
  the BB segment will be $20.71 and a A will be 2121.
• 1:11:00
  Yeah. So you have to remember this is
• 1:11:03
  the contract that the city carriers are going for.
• 1:11:07
  And as we have seen in the past, what happens in one can happen
• 1:11:11
  to the rest. And I'm telling you right now,
• 1:11:14
  this is one of the worst contracts I have seen for a
• 1:11:18
  current union with a new contract.
• 1:11:21
  Boeing just got a 35% increase, the longshoremen 65% increase,
• 1:11:31
  UAW, we talked about that. And yet 1.3% and $1000 for the
• 1:11:38
  city carriers. To my fellow brothers and
• 1:11:41
  sisters of the city craft, I'm sorry that this has come out.
• 1:11:45
  James, did I miss it? Did you bring up the extension
• 1:11:50
  of the non penalty time from 4:00 to six weeks?
• 1:11:54
  I think I missed that. Where was that and?
• 1:11:58
  That, that, that, that one was the ire of the city carriers
• 1:12:02
  that were talking to me because of the fact we get three weeks
• 1:12:05
  of, of overtime, OK, which is a week and a half of, of a paid
• 1:12:10
  period or 1 1/2 paid periods. And they're getting 2 full pay
• 1:12:14
  periods before this contract. Now you may sit there and say,
• 1:12:18
  Oh my God, they're getting six weeks.
• 1:12:20
  Oh, ladies and gentlemen, they're getting robbed of V time
• 1:12:24
  for two additional weeks per year because after that four
• 1:12:28
  week period's over, they can go back into the penalty payments
• 1:12:32
  that's now being removed from them.
• 1:12:35
  And you want to talk about light in the fire?
• 1:12:37
  Oh Lord, this is a shitstorm that's going to hit with
• 1:12:41
  hurricane force. And they're they're good.
• 1:12:44
  Like James said before, they're going to vote this down in
• 1:12:47
  record numbers. Yeah, this is, this is in this
• 1:12:51
  day and age of union, strong bargaining agreements of unions
• 1:12:58
  who are taking people to task for this money, taking people to
• 1:13:02
  task for wages they deserve to be able to afford what they need
• 1:13:08
  these days. And I found it.
• 1:13:09
  It was actually, it wasn't listed anywhere specifically in
• 1:13:13
  here that I could find by just scrolling through, but it is
• 1:13:17
  listed under the holiday carrier assistant and it will be the
• 1:13:21
  proposed modification will extend from 4 weeks to six weeks
• 1:13:25
  to cover the week of and after Thanksgiving and provide A2 week
• 1:13:29
  window prior to employment solely for the purpose of
• 1:13:32
  training. So that's that's in there as
• 1:13:34
  well. But yes, this is hot garbage and
• 1:13:38
  the raise that the carriers are getting on an hourly base CCA
• 1:13:43
  $0.50, that's less than a postage stamp per hour.
• 1:13:46
  They took their president 20 months to get to this deal.
• 1:13:51
  And what really slapped me in the face was is one comment in
• 1:13:55
  regards to office time in defined by automation and
• 1:14:00
  protecting the goals of delivering for America.
• 1:14:03
  I'm sitting there just saying you just, you have to get your
• 1:14:08
  lips off to Joy's ass. You really do.
• 1:14:11
  Because this smacks of collaboration with the post
• 1:14:15
  office. You've.
• 1:14:16
  Heard it from Masson at National Convention.
• 1:14:19
  You know that delivering for America plan is the greatest
• 1:14:23
  thing that's come from a post fest master general and now you
• 1:14:27
  hear it from the city carriers president that delivering for
• 1:14:31
  America is the best thing since sliced bread.
• 1:14:33
  These guys need to get their eyes opened to what's going on
• 1:14:38
  and they don't realize that. They feel like they feel like a
• 1:14:42
  district manager who can tell the local postmasters to turn
• 1:14:46
  the AC off the force carriers out.
• 1:14:49
  They feel that protected. They feel so protected that they
• 1:14:52
  can harass and the little people and get away with it because
• 1:14:57
  they'll get a slap on the hand and move to another office where
• 1:15:00
  people may not file grievances on them.
• 1:15:02
  It's time for our crafts to wake up.
• 1:15:05
  Time for our crafts to step up. It's time for our brothers and
• 1:15:09
  sisters of the world craft to talk with their city carrier
• 1:15:12
  brothers and sisters about this contract and how important it is
• 1:15:16
  that they actually use their voice in this vote.
• 1:15:20
  Now I know some people work in an all rural office, but there
• 1:15:23
  are a lot of rural carriers that work in a combined office or
• 1:15:27
  some that live on a city carrier route.
• 1:15:30
  Take a moment and stop and talk to them if you're on your day
• 1:15:33
  off and they're working. This one is one that the city
• 1:15:36
  carriers have to learn, understand and vote on.
• 1:15:40
  We need to stand with our brothers and sisters on on the
• 1:15:43
  City side with this one. Difference to Kristen's comments
• 1:15:49
  regarding this contract doesn't reflect what we're going to get.
• 1:15:53
  I will state that the years our contracts have almost been
• 1:15:57
  locked and in hand with the city con contracts.
• 1:16:01
  Same way to Table 2 was initiated, Table 2 and 4 was
• 1:16:04
  initiated. You know, the same way you know
• 1:16:07
  that all the the new MO user issued.
• 1:16:11
  If we see this, the National Rule Letter Carriers
• 1:16:14
  Association, it it'll be another shitstorm for for us if if we
• 1:16:19
  don't see at least a 5% increase for all three years and that
• 1:16:25
  will take a miracle. God help the post office.
• 1:16:29
  On top of an anito, on top of an initial 20 to 25% increase in
• 1:16:34
  the pay right off the bat, the base pay needs to be 25% higher,
• 1:16:40
  almost 30% for Table 2 carriers. Because with this contract right
• 1:16:45
  here that I'm looking at the pay that's on there, why on earth
• 1:16:51
  would anybody want to work for that pay?
• 1:16:54
  Why on earth would anybody want to come to a company where
• 1:16:56
  management harasses you day in and day out.
• 1:16:59
  You drive 30 plus year old vehicles for for less pay then
• 1:17:05
  some people are getting at fast food or at a Walmart warehouse.
• 1:17:09
  Now there are carriers out there that are making bank, especially
• 1:17:13
  with the penalty overtime, at the cost of their own home
• 1:17:16
  lines, at the cost of their own sanity.
• 1:17:19
  At the cost of their marriages. The marriages, their kids
• 1:17:23
  growing up, their kids growing up.
• 1:17:26
  I mean, Kristen, do you have a brand new grandbaby?
• 1:17:29
  How would you feel working 14 hours a day and not having any
• 1:17:34
  time to spend with that grandbaby?
• 1:17:36
  It was hard enough to be gone for the first two weeks of his
• 1:17:39
  life when I went to National. Exactly what was that?
• 1:17:43
  So that's. I said you're a horrible
• 1:17:47
  grandmother. Yeah, spending two weeks away.
• 1:17:50
  How could you and I? And I subjected it him to his
• 1:17:54
  first booster meeting at. The.
• 1:17:58
  Weekend of his two months being two months old, yeah.
• 1:18:03
  Guys, I'm telling you, you say. Hey, you know, there was a, you
• 1:18:08
  know, ADR during their talk that, you know, was talking
• 1:18:12
  about the shortages. They happen to be standing in
• 1:18:15
  back because another carrier friend of mine was holding him
• 1:18:18
  and she was like, and she points to the back and she's like and
• 1:18:21
  we have to grow our own Rcas. Yeah, and I mean, you're, you're
• 1:18:30
  talking about we're already having a hard time hiring
• 1:18:33
  people, not to mention the wait time to actually get hired on in
• 1:18:37
  the 1st place. But you present them with
• 1:18:41
  $21.14, Are they really going to work here for $21.14 and wait
• 1:18:47
  for months to be a put in their position or wait three months
• 1:18:50
  for an Academy or things like that?
• 1:18:53
  No, they're going to go off and they're going to go work at
• 1:18:56
  McDonald's for $19.00 an hour where they can get paid the next
• 1:18:59
  day and free French fries for life.
• 1:19:01
  Because people right now most often are in a survival mode
• 1:19:07
  because money is tight. We have people that are 3540
• 1:19:12
  years old having to pick up roommates because the cost of
• 1:19:17
  living has gotten so high they can no longer afford their place
• 1:19:21
  to live by themselves. Hey I was looking at rental
• 1:19:24
  rates in my area and I was like there's no way in hell I'd be
• 1:19:28
  able to afford to live on my own.
• 1:19:30
  Rental, rental there's. No way.
• 1:19:32
  Rental rental rates in my area are higher than my home
• 1:19:35
  mortgage. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:39
  We don't have a mortgage anymore.
• 1:19:40
  The house is paid off, but I, you know, I'm looking at what I
• 1:19:43
  have for my, my car payment, my car insurance and just, you
• 1:19:48
  know, those are my two biggest bills.
• 1:19:50
  And so, but you know, it's and then you're looking at going
• 1:19:54
  tacking onto it. And some of the rental rates
• 1:19:57
  were more than what I bring home every two weeks.
• 1:19:59
  One single check wouldn't even cover rent.
• 1:20:04
  Somebody on one of the From 8 arbitration podcast or on the
• 1:20:09
  Reddit made a great post on this too.
• 1:20:13
  You have to think about this is also going to cost US carriers
• 1:20:17
  overall too with that shortened office time that they just put
• 1:20:21
  in there. They said 13 minutes doesn't
• 1:20:25
  seem like much right? Who cares about less than 1/4 of
• 1:20:29
  an hour? But every 37 routes that lose 13
• 1:20:34
  minutes means one less route, one less regular, one less
• 1:20:40
  brother or sister. Every five lost routes means one
• 1:20:44
  less T6 position and another lost brother or sister.
• 1:20:48
  If there are 200,000 routes, then this agreement causes us to
• 1:20:53
  eventually lose 6500 Carrier jobs.
• 1:20:58
  Who bargains away jobs from their fellow union members?
• 1:21:02
  And then another Carrier brought up a really, really great point.
• 1:21:06
  Let's not forget that health insurance premiums are also
• 1:21:09
  going to be going up from 12 to as much as even 25% for fiscal
• 1:21:14
  year 2025 S That generous 1.3% increase isn't even going to
• 1:21:19
  cover the upcoming increases to health insurance premiums.
• 1:21:23
  The Postal Service health benefits system, all our all our
• 1:21:28
  health insurance premiums are going up.
• 1:21:32
  It doesn't matter which premium you have, it's going up.
• 1:21:36
  And your deductibles and your co-pays and everything else, you
• 1:21:40
  know, whether you're at 75% or 72%, it doesn't matter that
• 1:21:45
  amount of contribution because of the fact that your end costs
• 1:21:48
  will still go up. Well, you know, I, I, I, you
• 1:21:52
  know, I'm looking at the insurance rates and you know, I
• 1:21:55
  am on the rural carrier benefit plan and I'm on self plus
• 1:21:59
  family. I do have my 2 girls covered it
• 1:22:02
  and you know it was awesome with covering everything for Ruby's
• 1:22:06
  pregnancy and delivery and I I can't complain but you know, I'm
• 1:22:11
  going up from 2:34 to 273 from the first of the year.
• 1:22:16
  The pay. Period.
• 1:22:17
  Yeah, the pay. Period.
• 1:22:18
  Yeah. I mean, that's 40 bucks.
• 1:22:19
  That's, you know, that's a tank of gas.
• 1:22:22
  That's, you know, that's, that's, you know, half of my
• 1:22:26
  Internet bill. That's that is a little bit
• 1:22:30
  that's. My cell phone bill I from.
• 1:22:31
  My neighbor, that's all, Yeah. That's my cell phone bill.
• 1:22:35
  Yeah, it that that doesn't even I've got me and Ruby Unlimited
• 1:22:42
  +2 smartwatches and paying for the expensive phones I got two
• 1:22:46
  years ago, but yeah, no, it's. Just the basic, the plan that I
• 1:22:50
  have. I wasn't talking about the phone
• 1:22:52
  or the watch or any of that stuff.
• 1:22:53
  Just the plan I. Still won't touch mine, but
• 1:22:57
  yeah, no, it's, yeah, you know, I, I get things go up and I get
• 1:23:02
  that, you know, premiums in general, insurance premiums went
• 1:23:07
  up and the Postal Service only covers 72%.
• 1:23:13
  So the difference of that, that last 28 percent is what's passed
• 1:23:18
  on to the carriers. That 28% of it.
• 1:23:21
  So I get it. Ours are going to go up a little
• 1:23:23
  bit. But yeah, it's, I mean, in, in
• 1:23:27
  seeing now the beginning of the year is we're switching to the
• 1:23:31
  postal health benefits as opposed to being under the
• 1:23:34
  federal health benefits. Seeing how big of a jump that
• 1:23:37
  the federal employees are taking.
• 1:23:40
  I am, I'm kind of happy we ours are.
• 1:23:43
  Yeah, it jumped a little bit, but nothing like what they are.
• 1:23:47
  Oh, just wait. Now that we're separated, they
• 1:23:48
  can do what they want with it. Yeah, and our pay isn't going to
• 1:23:52
  increase. Nowhere near the cost of living,
• 1:23:55
  even with the cost of living adjustments, especially for
• 1:23:57
  anybody not on table one and not the top step of Table 2.
• 1:24:01
  Correct. And I don't believe we can
• 1:24:03
  anybody on the top step of Table 2 anyway.
• 1:24:06
  No, not yet. I believe that'll be if anybody
• 1:24:11
  went on. No, it wouldn't be unless they
• 1:24:14
  were year end. It would still be three years
• 1:24:17
  before they recur. Yeah.
• 1:24:19
  So yeah, but yeah, that's given. I'm not gonna say that ours is
• 1:24:24
  gonna follow or not follow cuz we don't have a tentative
• 1:24:27
  agreement yet. That's where I'm coming back.
• 1:24:28
  Yes, I know throughout history they have already closely
• 1:24:33
  mirrored one another. So yes, that is something that
• 1:24:36
  you think about. But at the same time, we don't
• 1:24:40
  know what ours is going. Yeah.
• 1:24:42
  And and don't forget there's no transparency and it's secret
• 1:24:45
  negotiations. There is no, oh, we're, we're
• 1:24:48
  getting, we're starting with this and we're getting that.
• 1:24:51
  Our management brought this, but and we brought that, but we
• 1:24:55
  didn't agree on that. So we're moving on to something
• 1:24:57
  else. There's none of that.
• 1:24:59
  It is all we're negotiating. We're still negotiating.
• 1:25:03
  We're still negotiating. That's the only answer you get
• 1:25:05
  from the national board. And what's surprising is they
• 1:25:08
  said, oh, it's 99% done. At least that was the rumor at
• 1:25:12
  National Convention. So it was 99% done.
• 1:25:15
  Why the hell wasn't it put out before the NALC?
• 1:25:17
  Well, because he. Didn't want to interrupt them
• 1:25:20
  because they were out longer, yeah.
• 1:25:22
  Being. Considerate of our city carrier
• 1:25:25
  brothers and sisters. He's.
• 1:25:26
  Probably being considerate because he didn't want to be the
• 1:25:29
  one. He probably didn't want to be
• 1:25:31
  the one that presented something like this.
• 1:25:33
  Yeah, but does it bother anybody?
• 1:25:34
  He says. Sisters and brothers, when
• 1:25:35
  everybody else in the world says brothers and sisters bothers me.
• 1:25:39
  I have. No problem with that.
• 1:25:40
  I have no problem. At least he's recognizing it.
• 1:25:42
  At least he's at least he's recognizing it now.
• 1:25:46
  I think he's just doing because of percentage of women versus
• 1:25:48
  men in the royal craft. That's sexist.
• 1:25:51
  That's just my opinion. See.
• 1:25:52
  I would have put it in alphabetical order personally.
• 1:25:57
  And and. Speech.
• 1:25:58
  Controversial that that even though I'm not OK, you have to
• 1:26:03
  realize that we are a government agency.
• 1:26:05
  We're a a, a, a constitutionally endowed public service.
• 1:26:09
  We're not a business. We're we're not technically a
• 1:26:12
  business. So that's why, again, we're
• 1:26:14
  getting these menial minuscule raises, you know, being offered
• 1:26:20
  to our city carriers because the fact that we're not technically
• 1:26:23
  a business. But, you know, if we don't run
• 1:26:25
  it like a business, ladies and gentlemen, the hell you going to
• 1:26:29
  get anything better than what they're offering and.
• 1:26:31
  And don't forget the Biden Harris administration announced
• 1:26:34
  the proposed rule that would increase pay for thousands of
• 1:26:37
  blue collar federal workers. Providing proposal would advance
• 1:26:42
  parity between federal wage system and general schedule
• 1:26:45
  workers, providing 12% average pay raise for approximately
• 1:26:48
  14,500 blue collar workers such as hard working carpenters,
• 1:26:54
  mechanics, etcetera 12. Percent. 12% for them, OK.
• 1:26:59
  One point 1.3. 1.3 for the for the city letter carriers, but
• 1:27:05
  12% for other blue collar federal employees.
• 1:27:09
  Yeah, I know. So it's disheartening.
• 1:27:13
  I'm I'm going to take a poll here.
• 1:27:15
  Kristen, what would you vote if you were a city letter carrier?
• 1:27:18
  I was a city layer carrier. I would have to vote now.
• 1:27:22
  Bill. Oh hell no.
• 1:27:27
  Well, I mean, I mean, you know, Renfro does talk about this
• 1:27:32
  being historic and it being one of the best contracts he's ever
• 1:27:37
  negotiated and how it's going to be a benefit to the city craft
• 1:27:42
  and it's going to help the Delivering for America plan.
• 1:27:45
  And it's going to be historic. It's going to be historic.
• 1:27:51
  It's going to be historic in the number of ballots returned and
• 1:27:55
  the number of no votes returned by city letter carriers.
• 1:28:00
  I'm voting no on this if I was a city letter carrier.
• 1:28:03
  But let's just put this out there a little disclaimer.
• 1:28:06
  We are not city letter carriers, and every city letter carrier
• 1:28:11
  that gets a ballot is allowed to vote however they wish to vote.
• 1:28:15
  They're going to vote no. But I'm also going to put this
• 1:28:19
  out there. I am not a lawyer and this is
• 1:28:21
  not legal advice. Consultant attorney in your
• 1:28:24
  local area for legal advice. But if there are any any members
• 1:28:32
  of the NALC, whether they are dues paying or not dues paying,
• 1:28:37
  that attempts to sway or coerce you to vote a specific way, you
• 1:28:45
  need to report them to the National Labor Relations Board
• 1:28:50
  immediately. Because attempting to coerce or
• 1:28:54
  sway a vote is election tampering, and any person caught
• 1:28:59
  doing that could face jail time. Make gun range on Wednesdays.
• 1:29:05
  Absolutely. OK, make your make your own
• 1:29:10
  educated decision on this contract ratification because
• 1:29:16
  this is very important. This is going to cover you until
• 1:29:19
  the end of November of 2026, just after your next National
• 1:29:24
  Convention. So think all long and hard about
• 1:29:28
  it before you put your pen to paper.
• 1:29:31
  And if you're a real carrier, talk with your fellow brothers
• 1:29:34
  and sisters, the city craft about it.
• 1:29:36
  Let them bounce it off of you. Let's have a full discussion on
• 1:29:40
  it. And at the same time, and this
• 1:29:42
  goes for everybody, when you receive a tentative agreement in
• 1:29:48
  the mail, read it, look, go through the changes, look at
• 1:29:52
  what the pros and cons are. Weigh them out for the entire
• 1:29:56
  craft, not just yourself personally, I know a lot of
• 1:30:01
  people in the past have like, oh, we're getting a raise.
• 1:30:04
  I'm voting yes. Did you continue to see what
• 1:30:07
  else was changed? Read your tentative agreement.
• 1:30:10
  Go through them. Take the time.
• 1:30:12
  Even if it's your bathroom reading material, read it.
• 1:30:17
  Don't take your cell phone in there.
• 1:30:18
  Take your tentative agreement, something to look at and read.
• 1:30:21
  If that's a few minutes that you can get away from your family to
• 1:30:24
  read it, then that's what you do.
• 1:30:25
  Yes, there is a no layoff clause because that is a federal law or
• 1:30:29
  not. Excuse me.
• 1:30:30
  The no layoff is not federal law.
• 1:30:31
  The no strike is there's and that kind of goes hand in hand.
• 1:30:35
  But I do believe there are no layoff clause that stay.
• 1:30:37
  Am I correct? I'll hold back.
• 1:30:39
  You have no strike when they say that they can do work stoppages.
• 1:30:44
  Well, I was actually about to talk about that.
• 1:30:46
  All right, go ahead. I'm.
• 1:30:48
  I'm getting tired. So for anybody in the city
• 1:30:55
  letter carrier craft that is scared to vote no because of
• 1:31:00
  what may happen, there is a responsibility of them to go
• 1:31:06
  back and negotiate again for another 15 days, maximum 15
• 1:31:14
  days, and then they have to take it to arbitration.
• 1:31:18
  If they cannot come to an agreement in those 15 days, they
• 1:31:21
  come to an agreement in those 15 days, then they would send out
• 1:31:25
  another ratification. It would of course, extend the
• 1:31:28
  time on the contract, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:31:31
  But if you don't like what's in it and you vote no, know that
• 1:31:37
  there is still a procedure. And then at the end, if they
• 1:31:41
  cannot come to an agreement, then it is up to the president
• 1:31:45
  and the executive council to turn around and decide whether
• 1:31:52
  they want to continue negotiating, go to arbitration,
• 1:31:56
  do a work stoppage until the tentative agreement is reached,
• 1:32:00
  or other Ave. Now, granted the work stoppage,
• 1:32:05
  a lot of people would consider that a strike.
• 1:32:08
  But this is not considered a strike on the basis that because
• 1:32:15
  there is no contract covering the carriers, although the
• 1:32:20
  current contract continues in perpetuity until a new contract
• 1:32:23
  is reached, a work stoppage is a way to force management to
• 1:32:29
  finally negotiate a good contract while not calling it a
• 1:32:34
  strike. Henceforth the power of the
• 1:32:38
  Union. So did.
• 1:32:40
  Anybody. I.
• 1:32:41
  Did. CLC statement I.
• 1:32:44
  Did receive the statement from James Henry on it.
• 1:32:50
  There is ACLC currently working on a statement as well for it
• 1:32:56
  because our letter carriers is working on a statement for it.
• 1:33:01
  Yeah, small statement, but this is from James Henry.
• 1:33:07
  Brothers and sisters, let me start by saying I to share in
• 1:33:10
  your anguish, disappointment, frustration, and disdain for the
• 1:33:14
  tentative agreement that was presented to the membership for
• 1:33:17
  ratification. I'm of belief that the tentative
• 1:33:21
  agreement is woefully short of expectations by the membership
• 1:33:24
  and exceedingly deficient of what our letter carriers
• 1:33:27
  deserve. Moreover, it's devoid of the
• 1:33:30
  respect our letter carriers have earned through our devotion,
• 1:33:33
  dedication and hard work through any and all circumstances.
• 1:33:37
  I for one will be voting no on the tentative agreement and
• 1:33:40
  encourage each and everyone of you to do the same and ask your
• 1:33:44
  fellow carriers to vote. Note as well, this tentative
• 1:33:47
  agreement represents an epic failure in leadership and
• 1:33:50
  recognition of that letter. Carriers who deserve to be the
• 1:33:54
  industry, to be industry leaders in wages, benefits and working
• 1:33:57
  conditions by our President. It is simply not enough to do as
• 1:34:01
  well as other sector workers. We deserve and demand better
• 1:34:05
  because we are the best. After 20 months of negotiations,
• 1:34:10
  a tentative agreement should have been presented that
• 1:34:12
  reflects the time the carriers have waited for allegedly a
• 1:34:15
  historic contract. It is historic in the sense that
• 1:34:19
  there has never been such a let down of the carriers and
• 1:34:22
  depicting being tone deaf to the plate and financial burdens
• 1:34:27
  carriers now endure. After my 36 years of service and
• 1:34:31
  being the NALC Vice President, I have an understanding of what is
• 1:34:35
  expected of the NALC leadership and what we're getting now does
• 1:34:40
  not meet the basic standards of ensuring the interest of our
• 1:34:43
  letter carriers come first. Vote no.
• 1:34:46
  I am in solidarity. Do you want to read the CLC 1?
• 1:34:51
  Yeah, I'll read that real quick. It just says yesterday the NILC
• 1:34:55
  Executive Council met and discussed the tentative
• 1:34:59
  agreement. For the first time in decades,
• 1:35:02
  the national president of the NILC did not seek nor receive
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  the Executive Council's recommendation on a tentative
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  agreement. Boy, sounds like a one man show
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  when that happened, huh? Yeah.
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  My neighbor changed the password on his Wi-Fi.
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  He got kicked off. It is supposed to be part of the
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  process, Mr. Johnson. That's why they made that
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  statement. So basically what they're
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  basically saying is Mr. Renfro turned around, got this
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  tentative agreement and put it out in front of everybody
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  without doing the due diligence that is required of the process.
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  As one of our listeners just said, he went rogue.
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  He made a unilateral decision. Think that's the best way to put
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  it? Well, and and this is just
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  reflective of his actions as as a recent convention too, you
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  know, he's he's the Mussolini of the city carriers.
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  I think that because of the way that they voted to support the
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  executive council in dismissing most of his charges, that he
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  felt that he was untouchable and so he could do something like
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  this without repercussions. But we're not city letter
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  carriers. That is for their union and
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  their membership to decide. Yes, the guy on the opposite
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  side of the table from the NALC was Doug Tulino, and he's making
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  800, almost $850,000 a year. Is the deputies.
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  Yes. I'll reserve my comments that I
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  don't want recorded and edited on.
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  That note It's a time to wind down now.
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  Before we get even more upset about this, because we know that
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  this, this kind of stuff is something that is a possibility
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  for the, for the rural letter carriers as well as our brothers
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  and sisters in the clerk craft, the APWU, as well as our
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  brothers and sisters in the mail handlers Union.
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  Because when 1 of this happens, sometimes we all know the
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  statement. It rolls downhill.
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  Yeah. So let's go ahead and wind this
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  down for this evening. Yes please, so I can I can free
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  verse. Yeah, and I I need to get some
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  rest because I heard tomorrow is just going to be atrocious, so I
• 1:37:38
  actually need to get up. And.
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  Actually clock in at start time of 730 instead of rolling in at
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  8810. Yep.
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  So yeah, we're going to wind this down.
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  And James, your final comments for tonight.
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  For my city brothers and sisters, I hope that you follow
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  your heart on this vote for this contract and know that no matter
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  what, you're going to have a contract at some point.
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  But the question is, if you can hold out and maybe go to
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  arbitration, you could have the effect of all the unions that
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  have negotiated awesome contracts for their craft
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  members. We've held out for over 500 days
• 1:38:31
  already. What's another month or two?
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  Because that's how long it'll take?
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  A month or two more. You've been there for a while
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  and you can get there. And to our rural brothers and
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  sisters, talk with your city brothers and sisters.
• 1:38:46
  Help them through this. We need to all unite together as
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  United States Postal Service workers talk with the clerk
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  people. Let them know that this
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  happened. Because all the unions need to
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  be aware that this is coming. Because it seems like management
• 1:39:07
  is going to go even harder against us than they already
• 1:39:10
  have. Because they know that they have
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  gotten away with way too much already, and the only way to
• 1:39:18
  make management sit down and shut up is for us to stand up
• 1:39:25
  and show them. We're all in this together,
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  Bill. Well, as a a retiree here, it's
• 1:39:33
  kind of ironic that I have time to respond to everybody queries
• 1:39:37
  me through instant messaging, phone calls, text and
• 1:39:40
  everything. And like I said it, it it makes
• 1:39:44
  me feel guilty for retiring because of my customers.
• 1:39:49
  But yet, you know, seeing what my fellow brothers and sisters
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  are doing in the rule craft in in my former office, I made the
• 1:39:57
  right decision for me because of the fact that there is an angry
• 1:40:02
  bill inside and angry Bill be having a fit right now with
• 1:40:08
  what's going on in the in our office and.
• 1:40:11
  Seeing how the city carriers are getting slapped in the face with
• 1:40:14
  this contract, I hold little faith in, in our national board
• 1:40:19
  negotiating anything better. You have to remember the city
• 1:40:22
  Craft has 200,000 plus members, approximately 70,000 more than
• 1:40:28
  we have. And they've always been seen as
• 1:40:30
  the Big Brother to us because they're the stronger union.
• 1:40:33
  They win more grievances, they win more money for their Craft
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  membership, and that leaves me little hope whatsoever that
• 1:40:42
  we'll do any better in future negotiations.
• 1:40:45
  Being said, we can always pray for a miracle, but I don't
• 1:40:49
  believe God intervenes in contractual negotiations.
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  So my prayers are with, you know, the city carriers.
• 1:40:57
  My prayers are with the Rule, Craft and the APW.
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  I, I don't see a good future with this contract being offered
• 1:41:06
  to the, to the craft membership and it just saddens me.
• 1:41:09
  It really does. And God, I, I, I wish, I hope, I
• 1:41:14
  pray, you know, that somehow Don pulls off a miracle and, and get
• 1:41:19
  you 5% for the next three years, because otherwise it, it'll be
• 1:41:23
  the, the death of the union. It really will be.
• 1:41:27
  I, I, you know, I can't foresee in the future, but I already
• 1:41:31
  know how many people are going to bail.
• 1:41:33
  You know, people that are constantly looking to bail.
• 1:41:35
  If you're looking at 1.3% / 3 years, you want, I don't care
• 1:41:40
  how you work numbers out. It doesn't keep up with
• 1:41:42
  inflation, doesn't even keep up with your medical insurance
• 1:41:46
  increases. So how the hell or is table two
• 1:41:49
  people going to make it? I mean, as a single mom, Kristen
• 1:41:53
  knows the pains to stretch every dollar and still have a life.
• 1:41:59
  And as vigilant as she is, as as many other members of the craft
• 1:42:04
  are, it's tough. And if you and if you're on Apov
• 1:42:07
  route, it's even tougher. So yeah, my prayers are with
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  you. But I, I don't, I don't see a
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  bright future if this contract goes through for the city
• 1:42:18
  carriers. And even if it goes to
• 1:42:20
  arbitration, I can't see anything but a marginal
• 1:42:22
  increase, if anything at all. And the fact that Table 2 is
• 1:42:26
  still on the table for discussion is disheartening.
• 1:42:32
  So God bless you all. I mean you got a couple more
• 1:42:35
  weeks of political mail then you get to start looking forward to
• 1:42:39
  Christmas. Overtime parcels out the ass.
• 1:42:43
  Everybody be safe, do your job professionally, efficiently,
• 1:42:46
  safely, and get home to your loved ones because you are the
• 1:42:49
  most important delivery of the day.
• 1:42:51
  Thank. You guys, yes.
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  Thank you so much guys. I did miss being on here last
• 1:42:58
  week. I will just say that.
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  But no, you know, the both of them have made some good points
• 1:43:04
  and you know, I, I just urge those that are in the city craft
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  that do listen, definitely read through your tentative agreement
• 1:43:13
  fully and please vote. Vote what you feel is best.
• 1:43:18
  You know, we're not going to tell anybody who to vote for,
• 1:43:20
  what to vote for, yes, no, whatever.
• 1:43:23
  I mean, that is your own personal choice on how you vote.
• 1:43:28
  But I do urge you right now when you receive your tentative
• 1:43:31
  agreement to read that sucker with a fine tooth comb and vote.
• 1:43:36
  Voting is, is important, however, which way you choose to
• 1:43:40
  vote. And you know, when we have a
• 1:43:42
  tentative agreement come out, I'm going to say the same thing
• 1:43:45
  to our rural carriers. Read the tentative agreement.
• 1:43:49
  Every single, every single union member, if you receive a
• 1:43:53
  national magazine, you will receive a tentative agreement in
• 1:43:57
  the mail. So when ours is at that time for
• 1:44:00
  us, I'm going to urge every single one of you to read that.
• 1:44:04
  And oh, it takes not a lot of time to do the actual voting.
• 1:44:09
  You're going to check yes, or you're going to check no.
• 1:44:11
  You're going to put them in the proper envelopes, throw a stamp
• 1:44:14
  on it and throw it in the mail. So yes, City side I, I, I, I, I
• 1:44:19
  urge you to make sure you fully read your full tentative
• 1:44:23
  agreement and vote. It is important as a union
• 1:44:27
  member, even if that's the only thing you do is vote.
• 1:44:31
  That is standing up, that is being active.
• 1:44:34
  Please vote. So on that note, yes, political
• 1:44:39
  season, it is winding down, thank goodness.
• 1:44:42
  But you know, it's just going to get heavier until after the
• 1:44:46
  election and then we'll get the residual.
• 1:44:48
  They didn't get out before the election.
• 1:44:50
  That's always fun to deliver. But on that note, guys, you
• 1:44:53
  know, stay safe out there. Weather's changing.
• 1:44:55
  I know right now the we hit peak for fall, autumn, whatever you
• 1:45:01
  want to call it, and leaves changing.
• 1:45:03
  Absolutely gorgeous drive to the other side of the state and back
• 1:45:07
  again for me this weekend when I was downstate.
• 1:45:11
  My parents live 4 hours southwest of me and I was down
• 1:45:15
  in that region. The colors were starting to pop
• 1:45:17
  down there too. Absolutely gorgeous, loved it.
• 1:45:21
  But please keep in mind, those leaves fall, they get wet, they
• 1:45:24
  get slippery. So please be safe when you're
• 1:45:27
  out on your routes, when you're having to walk a package to its
• 1:45:30
  delivery point, you know, take those in mind too.
• 1:45:35
  Leaves when they get wet, they do get slick.
• 1:45:37
  I know, and they're done. That and stay safe this week
• 1:45:41
  guys. And we'll be back next week.
• 1:45:57
  OK, here here's here's the bill story for the week.