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MNF REACTION, Colts DON’T TRUST Daniel Jones, Bucs & Commanders are IN TROUBLE, NFL Week 2 Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my friends? How are
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff, three and out. Lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today. You know, I just let yesterday marinate some
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: things I've been thinking about. And obviously what I just witnessed,
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  Speaker 1: which the injuries, the theme is not going to go away.
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  Speaker 1: It is something that these guys are dropping like flies.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing when it's position players, when it's the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: it just has a dramatic impact on us. So as viewers,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that was unwatchable. James Winston is, we'll dive
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  Speaker 1: into him and the Rams super team. I do think
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  Speaker 1: we need to pump the brakes a little bit. They
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  Speaker 1: did not look very good early on in this game.
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  Speaker 1: And then, The Giants just had no life. But a
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  Speaker 1: lot of football stuff, some dad diaries, some Middlecoff mailbag.
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  Speaker 1: that has watched that way. And let's just dive into
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Jackson Dart, the injuries. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 1: lost three young starting quarterbacks in the last 24 hours.
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  Speaker 1: And the amount of injuries in the NFL. People often
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  Speaker 1: wonder to themselves, what could slow down football? It's the
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  Speaker 1: number one television show. It's the only thing. that most
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  Speaker 1: people in America agree on. Millions upon millions of people
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  Speaker 1: are not only watching football on Sundays, they're now watching
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  Speaker 1: it on Saturdays. College football is bigger than ever. But
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  Speaker 1: I've been following this sport since I was a young kid.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe I am misremembering. Maybe it's easy to kind
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  Speaker 1: of live in the present and this doomsday of the injuries,
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  Speaker 1: they've always happened, of course. Football is a violent contact sport.
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  Speaker 1: with massive elite athletes running into each other at 4-4,
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  Speaker 1: 4-5 speed. I'm not expecting no one to ever get injured.
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  Speaker 1: It clearly comes with the territory. In football, you can
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  Speaker 1: get injured in practice, you can get injured lifting, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously you can get injured in the games. That's always
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  Speaker 1: happened throughout the history of the game. But I do
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  Speaker 1: feel over the last several years, the amount of injuries
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, has never come this fast and this furious.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been saying forever, and I'm not blaming individual
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  Speaker 1: injuries on my theories for the sport. Like Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 1: today getting destroyed by two guys as his tackles were
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  Speaker 1: getting smoked. And who knows, maybe the Matt Nagy and
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  Speaker 1: Greg Roman would say he took too deep of a drop.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of nuance to this game that most
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  Speaker 1: people don't know, don't understand, will never know because we're
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  Speaker 1: not told by the actual coaching points on the individual play. Clearly,
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  Speaker 1: Troy said this when he got injured. He was very
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  Speaker 1: lucky that he leaped into the air or maybe his
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  Speaker 1: leg could have been snapped in half. And then Jordan Renan,
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  Speaker 1: my guy who's been covering the Giants forever, when I
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  Speaker 1: used to work for the Eagles, he used to cover Philly.
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  Speaker 1: He reported, I guess, I didn't even see his tweet,
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  Speaker 1: that Jackson Dart tried to come back into the game.
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  Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him. There's a video going around of
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  Speaker 1: the trainer talking to John Harbaugh, who's very stoic. Looks
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  Speaker 1: like he just saw a ghost because he probably worried
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  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback could potentially be gone for a month,
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  Speaker 1: two months, the season, who knows. Whispered four to six weeks.
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  Speaker 1: And my theory has been pretty simple. The only way
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  Speaker 1: to play football is to practice football. And practicing football
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  Speaker 1: historically has been in training camp, double days, building calluses
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  Speaker 1: on your body. Also, in the off-season, training and lifting,
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  Speaker 1: which has dramatically changed. And in 2011, when the CBA changed,
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  Speaker 1: practices have never been the same. And then over the
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  Speaker 1: course of the last five, six, seven years, the money
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  Speaker 1: they're paying these players is NBA, Major League Baseball money, right?
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  Speaker 1: You have countless guys on every team making, obviously the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback can be making anywhere from 40 to 60. You
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  Speaker 1: can have tackles, guards, defensive linemen, corners, wide receivers, making
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  Speaker 1: 25 to $ 35 million. Rams are a good example. Ton
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  Speaker 1: of high price guys. And people, I understand it, are
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  Speaker 1: very hesitant to push them, to put them in compromising
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  Speaker 1: situations because you don't want them to ever get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: So then they don't really practice that hard relative to
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  Speaker 1: what it used to be, and then they just play
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  Speaker 1: in these games. I recently got a text saying, Because
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  Speaker 1: I went on this rant a couple weeks ago. The
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  Speaker 1: night Sam Darnold was hurt. Again, freak deal. But like,
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  Speaker 1: it's drip, drip, drip. All these guys are getting injured
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  Speaker 1: because it almost feels like we don't really play football
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  Speaker 1: anymore except for the games when everyone's playing at warp
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  Speaker 1: speed because people have never been faster. And this guy
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  Speaker 1: who worked in the NFL as a strength and conditioning coach,
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  Speaker 1: he played major Division I football, and his father is
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  Speaker 1: a prominent assistant in the NFL, has been for decades,
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  Speaker 1: sent me this text after the Monday night game when
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold went out and I went on this long rant.
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  Speaker 1: He said, heard your take about the guys dropping like flies.
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  Speaker 1: As someone who worked in the NFL in strength and conditioning,
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  Speaker 1: These guys don't trade hard like they have in decades past.
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  Speaker 1: Strength staffs are terrified to actually train the players heavy
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  Speaker 1: because they are in cover their ass mode. The quote
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  Speaker 1: sports scientists have become the dominant figures in football strength
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  Speaker 1: and conditioning. It's all data driven bullshit injury prediction models
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  Speaker 1: and load management. aka don't load the guys heavy, do
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  Speaker 1: the bare minimum in the off-season training. And then a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these guys are off with their private coaches
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  Speaker 1: in the off-season training like track athletes, which is not
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  Speaker 1: going to build durable and resilient athletes. It's pretty boy
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  Speaker 1: social media training. I'm not trying to sound like the
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  Speaker 1: old guy yelling at clouds about the quote good old days.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is way younger than me, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: But players used to train hard and heavy and very simply.
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  Speaker 1: long before anyone knew about a GPS monitor or a
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  Speaker 1: force plate to measure readiness was. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: any of these individual injuries are because of the way
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  Speaker 1: a guy's training or the practice, but over the aggregate,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how we argue it. And listen, football
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  Speaker 1: is not going away anytime soon. But on Monday Night Football,
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  Speaker 1: which is one of the premium properties for the sport of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Roger and the NFL and their media rights deal,
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  Speaker 1: to have the star quarterback go down immediately and then
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  Speaker 1: have to watch Jameis Winston, who at the time I'm
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  Speaker 1: recording this, is 11 for 27. A drive ago, he
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  Speaker 1: was 7 for 21. He was unwatchable. I love football.
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  Speaker 1: I've dedicated my life to working in it and talking
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  Speaker 1: about it. And if I didn't do this for a living,
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  Speaker 1: I would have changed it at halftime. Maybe would have
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: watched to see if Devontae could get another touchdown. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: threw a little in the third quarter. But, like, that
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  Speaker 1: is the problem. It's one thing, all these position players.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to any of the fantasy websites and
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: just scroll the news on player information, it's guy after
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  Speaker 1: guy after guy after guy after guy after guy. It
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: is insane on Mondays. It's September 21st. We're not even
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: to week three. I mean, we got guys around the
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  Speaker 1: leagues that can't even fly home because they're in the
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  Speaker 1: hospital at where they played on the road. So this
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  Speaker 1: is the one thing that I've really come around to.
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  Speaker 1: Like the one thing that could slow down football is
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  Speaker 1: the amount of injuries at the rate they're happening. Because
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  Speaker 1: you can't convince me they have ever happened at this rate.
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  Speaker 1: The last couple weeks are evident to me. It's fucking outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And listen, I'm not acting like it's
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  Speaker 1: going to change. They're never going back. They're never doing
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  Speaker 1: double days again. They're never going to have these data scientists,
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  Speaker 1: load management people. The NBA takes a lot of shit
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  Speaker 1: for it. I'm having people that worked in the league
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  Speaker 1: in strength and conditioning. It's happening there too. And we
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  Speaker 1: are the ones, the consumer, that's like, what is this product?
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  Speaker 1: And Jordan Renard, he wants to come back in. Well,
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  Speaker 1: who ain't going to let him back in? And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know his injury as of recording this,
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  Speaker 1: but they're never letting these guys back in. That's the
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  Speaker 1: prediction models. No chance. And listen, like, the Giants deserve
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  Speaker 1: some shit on this. Not because he was injured, but
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  Speaker 1: because of who the backup quarterback is. I like Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 1: He's become an enjoyable character. He's fun. He was all
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  Speaker 1: over the world cup see him with the barstool guys
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  Speaker 1: he's an enjoyable personality he can't play NFL football been
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  Speaker 1: in the league for 12 years and you put him
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  Speaker 1: in and you can't even function you also two years
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  Speaker 1: ago had Drew Locke on your team After this season,
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  Speaker 1: or I mean the 2025 season, when Jackson Dart was
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  Speaker 1: constantly hurt, the backup quarterback to have a capable veteran,
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  Speaker 1: Jameis is a veteran, clearly not capable. On your roster
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  Speaker 1: should have been a premium for Joe Shane and John Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't just shit on the GM because we
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  Speaker 1: all know the way the hierarchy in that franchise works.
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  Speaker 1: And John is above Joe. But clearly Joe liked him
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  Speaker 1: because he was here before. So to me, they both
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  Speaker 1: deserve some blame on this one. There were other veteran
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  Speaker 1: guys available that, listen, I know this, you're telling me
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  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco isn't better than him? I mean, Joe Flacco's
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: been with John Harbaugh. I'm just throwing that out there
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  Speaker 1: as an example. We have seen countless backup quarterbacks last
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  Speaker 1: year and early this year come in, obviously not only
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  Speaker 1: win games, but just pretty clearly be able to function.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot function with what we witnessed in Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell me, well, he hasn't been getting the reps.
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  Speaker 1: As Troy Aikman said, it's week two. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: got enough reps. This isn't week 14. So that was embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: It truly was. And clearly, once Jackson went out, and
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  Speaker 1: this is why I'm so angry about these injuries, what
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  Speaker 1: I thought had a chance to be a very entertaining game,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get into that super team, the Rams, because
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  Speaker 1: they sure as hell for the first half of the
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  Speaker 1: game did not look like a super team to me.
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  Speaker 1: If Jackson Dart was in the game, this might have
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  Speaker 1: been tied at halftime. But instead, you just give Jameis
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  Speaker 1: like the ball within the 10-yard line after a fumble.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't even gain a yard. You can't even function.
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  Speaker 1: You can't even run any plays. So that's tough, man.
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  Speaker 1: And personnel, the backup quarterback, with the amount of injuries now,
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  Speaker 1: you better have multiple quarterbacks on your roster. everyone's like,
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  Speaker 1: why are the Eagles adding Andy Dalton? They got all
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks. Because you can never have enough quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: And just let them compete in training camp. Let them
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: compete during the season. And just go, hey, if this
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  Speaker 1: guy's not good enough, we got another guy to come.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: 49ers had Mac Jones. They drafted Rourke. Listen, look at
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  Speaker 1: the Rams. Like, we got Bennett. Well, okay, we'll draft
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  Speaker 1: Ty Simpson. I don't know if any of them can play,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: but they're taking swings. Like, oh, we got Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 1: We're good. Well, you're clearly not. Because you had pretty
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  Speaker 1: high expectations for this team. And I'm not saying I
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  Speaker 1: was even on board. But after week one, you could
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  Speaker 1: tell this team had a chance to be really, really competitive.
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  Speaker 1: Unless their quarterback gets injured and you've got to play Winston.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're unwatchable. And it's not like the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams still looked a little hungover from Australia. I
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  Speaker 1: get Puka ain't playing. I get Miles Garrett's eating nachos
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  Speaker 1: upstairs with LeBron and Rich Paul and Pat McAfee. But
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  Speaker 1: the Rams were like, hey, you guys want to stay
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  Speaker 1: in the game? Because we'll let you in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Stafford threw just a YOLO pick. Kieran Williams fumbled. Last
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  Speaker 1: I checked, he's been known to fumble a time or two.
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  Speaker 1: They were giving it to you. And then, you know,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Devontae Adams is like, no, Moss. I'm going to take
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  Speaker 1: this bitch over. Your corners suck. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go for eight catches, 195 yards, and a couple tugs.
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  Speaker 1: But let's not act like the Rams, this super team,
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  Speaker 1: this all-time great, mid-90s Cowboys or Niners, unbeatable. Like they're
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  Speaker 1: just going to rattle off 16-1 and walk. That ain't this.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear it's not. They're going to be good. They
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  Speaker 1: have really good players. Quarterbacks returning MVP. Obviously, Devontae. How
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  Speaker 1: lucky are the Rams that they didn't trade Devontae Adams
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  Speaker 1: for A.J. Brown? You're telling me, and I'm biased, I'm
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  Speaker 1: Fresno State, but Devontae Adams, ultimate pro, just very focused,
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  Speaker 1: all dialed in. Yeah, he battled a hamstring last year.
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  Speaker 1: Last time I checked, like, A.J. Brown battles injuries too.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't get any of the drama with 17.
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  Speaker 1: They were going to trade. Sometimes the Rams, and this
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: is the Miles Garrett thing, get a little Daryl Morey.
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  Speaker 1: Just give us better players, better players, better players. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you got a pretty good thing going. Get this young nucleus.
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  Speaker 1: Devontae already has a good rapport with Stafford. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Puka's a pretty big wild card. He's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stuff going on. I think sometimes, and listen, this
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: happens in life. Sometimes you get lucky for the deals,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: the relationships, whatever, that don't work out. You ever talk to...
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  Speaker 1: I mean, most of you won't, but I've talked to
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  Speaker 1: enough GMs that will tell you stories about the draft
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  Speaker 1: day trades that they wanted to make that would have
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  Speaker 1: been awesome and also the ones that they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make or didn't get to make that would have been
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  Speaker 1: a disaster. So there's an element of luck involved, but
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  Speaker 1: where in the meeting were they like, let's get rid
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  Speaker 1: of Devontae Adams for A.J. Brown? How does that make
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  Speaker 1: any sense? clearly it doesn't because Devontae tonight, and I
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  Speaker 1: get it that their secondary in New York isn't very good.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, even if Jackson Dart plays, I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: the Rams still win by 10 points. I mean, Jackson
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  Speaker 1: had no impact on Devontae Adams, but they would have
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  Speaker 1: been in the game because he could move around. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, he hasn't played in two years. Like that's,
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  Speaker 1: This is the National Football League. You saw, he's just
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  Speaker 1: running into the guard. He'll clearly get better as the
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  Speaker 1: season goes on, as he gets his legs under him,
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  Speaker 1: assuming that he can stay healthy. Older now, your body
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  Speaker 1: doesn't recover quite as much. But let's face it, the
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  Speaker 1: big offseason move, like if you thought the Rams were
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  Speaker 1: going to be a quote-unquote super team, was going from
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  Speaker 1: first to Miles Garrett. Because you're like, oh, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to have leads? Just give them 25 sacks. Well, who
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  Speaker 1: knows when he's going to come back? And clearly, if
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: you miss a game, especially 0-1, this is not the
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  Speaker 1: NBA or baseball. You don't just miss games. Puka's injury,
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  Speaker 1: that's a real thing. You have to miss a fucking
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  Speaker 1: game after you just got your ass kicked. So I
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  Speaker 1: was a little shocked by how sloppy the Rams were.
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  Speaker 1: Not impressed at all beside Devontae. and the one sweet
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  Speaker 1: play that Trent McDuffie made. I know Stafford threw for. 327,
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  Speaker 1: but even him early in the game, something just feels
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  Speaker 1: a little off. I don't know. Maybe it's the pressure
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  Speaker 1: that they've brought on themselves from all these moves. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not acting like they're not going to be good. I'm
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: not acting like we're looking at the Atlanta Falcons here.
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  Speaker 1: They are going to be good. But football doesn't just
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  Speaker 1: work like you snap your fingers and you just win
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: 16 games. That's not the way it works at all.
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  Speaker 1: And injuries play a big part of it, and you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: could argue their most talented player, Miles Garrett, is literally
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: just gone for a while. So when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, every game Jameis Winston plays, I will pick
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  Speaker 1: them to lose. I think most Giants fans would agree
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: with me. Jameis Winston starts a game, you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to win the game. If Jackson Dart can be healthy
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and come back, then we can change that conversation. The
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  Speaker 1: Rams go to Denver this week, NBC, Sunday Night Football.
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  Speaker 1: Then they go to Philly. It's a tough, I mean,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: this is a tough stretch. This is why tonight was
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  Speaker 1: a must win. And you watch them play, you're like, huh?
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  Speaker 1: So maybe because of this stretch, they held Puka out,
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  Speaker 1: thinking that Devontae could just go nuts. But at Denver,
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  Speaker 1: at Philly, versus the Bills. Like, it's not inconceivable that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they lose all those games. Given the benefit of the doubt,
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  Speaker 1: they will minimum win one, but if you go one
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  Speaker 1: and two in that stretch, all of a sudden you're
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: two and three, then okay, you get the Cardinals, the Raiders,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Commanders, the Cardinals, eases out. But now,
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  Speaker 1: if they win two or three, they're in great shape,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: then watch out. You're looking at a team that is
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: going to have a really good record going into the
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  Speaker 1: meat of the end of their schedule, which is Packers, Chiefs, Niners, Cowboys, Seahawks, Bucks, Seahawks.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So they've already lost the Niners. You get the Seattle
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Seahawks twice at the end of the season. I just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: think that this Rams team, football takes time. Chemistry matters.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Youth and exuberance and excitement. Look at the Chiefs. Their
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: older players are excited. But, like, adding those young guys,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you feel the energy. Like, adding R. Mason Thomas feels
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like it's jolted Karloftis back into what he was a
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  Speaker 1: couple years ago. And Chris Jones' energy. And once Delane
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  Speaker 1: starts playing, like, that matters. You know, it does. So,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: what a night for football. Let me tell you about
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• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to start, go back to Sunday night.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And we were talking about this last night after we
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: finished recording, and it kind of struck me that You know, Mahomes,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the talk of the town again. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: their offense, Kelsey's looking, he's got Taylor Swift pounding her ring. Which,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I heard Bill Simmons say this. She's probably
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the only person that could get away with that without
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: absolutely getting dragged on the internet. I mean, Caleb is
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: getting destroyed today. But you go after Taylor, it's like
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: going after Beyonce. It's not worth your mentions. A little cheesy,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but there's no disputing that her husband looks incredible. Kenneth
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Walker looks incredible, and the Chiefs, they take up a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: lot of oxygen, rightfully so. They've earned that. But last night,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, it got me thinking, like, do you trust
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: your quarterback in a big spot? Was there a soul
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in America beside Daniel Jones' parents that truly believed as
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that game got tight in the fourth quarter at Arrowhead,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was going to pull it out. Daniel Jones
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: was going to dig deep and find a way to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: win against Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Did his own
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: coach believe that? Because listen, I'm not acting like the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: guy's a bum. He played well last night. One bad interception,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a couple bad other passes, but on the aggregate, I
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: think you would have to give him a positive endorsement
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: on the game. But when push came to shove, and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: they hit that deep bomb that almost got called a fumble,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: then got overturned, or however it played out, and they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: kept the ball, and he went back-to-back runs, and they
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: found themselves in third and 13. Do you think Andy
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Reid in that spot, when his opponent is exhausted... And
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: he has kind of the knife on their throat. Doesn't
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: just put it in the hands of Patrick Mahomes. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because Jalen Hurts is a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: very polarizing player. And listen, he has his moments where...
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He can be really frustrating for a guy that we've
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: seen his high-end games because his good games, his good
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: plays are elite. He also has, I mean, they led
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the league in three outs. Everyone blamed the offensive coordinator
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: if they egged his house, and it was easy to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: point the finger, but clearly the Eagles weren't thrilled with him.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: But there is no disputing at the end of that
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: game with the Titans, like Jalen can drive him right
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: down the field because he's done it countless times. So
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: even when he plays shitty, and I'm not saying he
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: totally played shitty yesterday, he made a couple of bad passes,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: but you believed he was going to get it done.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Or definitely it wouldn't shock you at all if he did.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You know, Brock Purdy played a high school team on
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Sunday in Miami Dolphins, and he did what a high-end
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: player would do. He eviscerated them. And Coach K had
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this comment. I think it was a 30 for 30
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: on Duke or some documentary on Duke. And it was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: about Christian Laettner when he went to the line in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the final four. And he's like, the one thing I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: will say about Christian Laettner, whether he hit or missed
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the free throws, it was a late game situation. He
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: got fouled. He's the line. And I don't know if
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: he's going to make it when he goes in the line.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: But it never crosses my mind that he's scared to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: take the shots. The moment is too big. The lights
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: are too bright. Daniel Jones' record in these primetime games
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself. It's horrendous. You can't win him. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: some of that is probably, you've got to add some context. But, like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: last night did the play calling from Shane Steichen, who
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think is pretty good. Like, the more and more
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I watch the call, it's like, I kind of like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: this guy. Right? I really do. I don't know if
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: next year, if he gets fired because they play the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Texans this week, if they lose that, like this thing
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: could unravel fast. But if he gets a head coaching job,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: who knows? Like I say it all the time. Kevin
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Stefanski literally was the worst offensive, ran the worst offense
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: we'd ever seen last year, like historically, and immediately got
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a job. Two weeks in, hasn't been in the red zone. Like,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: hey guys, we saw this coming. But like, so if
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he can get a job, like Stefanski, or I mean,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Shane Syken, I think it would be on the table.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel confident. Offensive coordinator at minimum. But did
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he not trust him in the biggest moments? He'd be like, well,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: they're missing Alec Pierce. Well, Keenan Allen's got as many
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: deweys as catches. Well, you know, they're dependent on, you know, Warren,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: who hasn't really been the impact that maybe they thought
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he would be. It's like, our best players are running back.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, well, you could throw him the ball.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Because I was thinking about the play that basically iced
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the game from Patrick Mahomes. The play where he rolls
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to his left and throws a little bunny, a little
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: lobber over the defender. I think we take for granted,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sitting on our couch, eating some Pub Mix, popcorn, having
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a brewski, how difficult that play is. We talk all
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the time that a lot of these quarterbacks that struggle
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: have no touch. That is the ultimate touch throw. That
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is the type of stuff that he could do going
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: back to when he was 7, 10, 12, 15 years old.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things Mahomes brings to the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: table is everyone that discusses him is like, he just
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: does everything well. He's just a natural. And that's kind
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of what happens now that Mahomes kind of got his
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: swag back. He just kind of plays like a natural.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Ken Griffey Jr., kind of born to do this. Derek
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Jeter just kind of belongs at short. Patrick Mahomes kind
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of just belongs in the biggest game playing quarterback. And
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, really smart, good-looking dude, the great jawline, can
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: make some beautiful balls. But when push comes to shove,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and you're paying the guy, and I looked it up today,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: $ 50 million in cash. To put that into perspective, now granted,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: this is second year into the big contract. Purdy's getting
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: $ 46 million this year. Daniel Jones is, I don't even
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: think Jalen's getting that much in cash. Like just an
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: actual cash in his bank account, a lot of cash.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And can you not trust him? And this gets back
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to when we talk about these quarterbacks, like do you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: truly believe this guy's good enough? Or is this the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: best we have right now? And it's like, we'll just
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: deal with it. It's not like this guy was coming
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off a career year. He got hurt. Tore his Achilles.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, he's the best option we have. We
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: don't want to roll back a 46-year-old Phillip Rivers. If
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that's the state you're in, more than likely, it's not
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: going to go well. More than likely, when you make
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a deal out of desperation, it's going to bite you
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in the ass. Every once in a while, it pays off.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: But in this situation, it was on full display last night,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that like, It didn't feel that they trusted him. Because
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: did you trust him? Does anyone trust him? How could you?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Where all these other guys, like, it doesn't mean they're all,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Mahomes had a chance to lead him on a game-winning drive.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Didn't do it, right? I mean, they kicked a field goal.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it's not like he put the hammer down.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying everything, Elway, Montana, Peyton Manning's throwing a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: pick six in the Super Bowl. Like, listen, this shit
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: is hard. But do you trust that guy? I think
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: we saw yesterday, kind of trust Jalen Hurts driving down
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the field. Definitely do. I mean, the 49ers definitely trust
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy. And when you're talking about that crew of guys,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: you know, that Daniel Jones' best-case scenario is in, because
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: he's not in the elite tier. So if best-case scenario,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he's in that second tier, is he the least trustworthy
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of the group? And if that's the case for what
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: they're paying him, like, they're only going to have themselves
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to blame when Carly Ursae, Gordon Johnson-West... fires them at
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, potentially over the headsets while
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she's on the sideline decked out in cool clothing. The
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: other thing I was thinking, I don't think I talked
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that much about Tampa and Cleveland on my podcast. Me
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and Colin talked about it. Obviously, Deshaun's best game as
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a Cleveland Brown quarterback. Honestly, I don't think it's close.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, the second half, they're down 16-6. He leads
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: them on three drives, 111 plays for a field goal.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Then he hits a couple plays. I think it was
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: like a three-play drive, but they hit the big play
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to Boston where he did all the work. And then
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: he let him on a 12-play touchdown drive where he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: had like a 17-yard beautiful pass. Which I guess, you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: cool for the franchise just to have some positive momentum.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Full disclosure, I forgot about that game. A lot going
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: on on Sunday. There's a million games going. The delay happens.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And then anyone that has the package, channels just change,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and you've got TVs everywhere and computer screens, and things
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: just move on. I didn't have any money on the game,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: so it's just out of sight, out of mind. Then
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I look at my computer screen,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and the game's just back. And it was almost a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: three-hour delay. And for as cool as it was for
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Munkin and Deshaun Watson, that's as bad as it gets
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: for Todd Bowles. And to lose that game up 16-6
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: in the second half with that guy leading essentially 17
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: points of drives on you when you're a defensive coach
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: is pretty devastating. And let's face it, your quarterback through
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: two games has not played well. And then the other
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: guy is through the first quarter and a half, it
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: felt like Dan Quinn and the defensive staff didn't realize–
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You guys know Adam, our audio guy here at The Volume.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I'm on a group text with him. He's a big
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Commander fan. And about two series in, he's like, do you.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Think Dallas knows who this, you guys ever heard of
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: this 88 guy? It's like, oh yeah, that's their best player.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: You might want to cover him. And it's like, felt
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: like every other play, CeeDee Lamb was wide open. It's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: one thing if you make a crazy contested catch like
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase in the front corner of the end zone.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's like, listen, what's Derek Stingley supposed to do? Like
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that's sometimes you just, an all-time great player makes an
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: all-time great play. And other times guys are just wide open.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Now they kind of came storming back. I went to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the bathroom because I assume they ran the offense out.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I bet they end up kicking the field goal,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: come back, watch second half. And I gave them kind of,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: they kind of stormed back. Jaden played pretty well. Then
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: obviously has the injury, which same thing as last.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Year, devastating. I mean, out for who knows how long. And, and,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: more than Tampa. The commanders are fucked. Like it is over.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, Marcus Mariota, you're starting this week. Who
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: are we starting against? Uh, Mike McDonald and a defense
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that doesn't, you can't sniff 10 points against Godspeed. Good luck.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Have a good one. Like that's over. This thing's going
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to unravel fast. And I started thinking about, because he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: on television every Sunday night. And even sometimes because of Jack,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I don't have it turned on or whatever. Like you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: feel his presence on TV and, Been watching him talk
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: now for almost 20 years. If Mike Tomlin wants to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: coach next year, he is getting a John Harbaugh $ 100
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: million plus contract. And I think there are two teams
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that are directly in sight right now. And I can
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: imagine their owners are a game or two away from
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: starting to have some initial conversations. Because the Washington Commanders
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: are owned by an NBA guy. who has bought guys
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like Doc Rivers and Nick Nurse, Daryl Morey, like kind
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: of a star fucker, like kind of likes that. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to me, Mike Tomlin, who went to college right down
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the street, well, I don't know that. I've never actually
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: been to William & Mary, but by all accounts, it's
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: relatively close. Like, he'd definitely be willing to pay. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the Glazers have proved in the past, I mean, they
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: went out, they gave, Jason Light, the Green Light, let's
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: go land Tom Brady. They once upon a time traded
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: for John Gruden, who if you go back and look
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: at the trade, it wasn't like they gave a third-round pick.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: A couple firsts, a bunch of money. Like, it was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a lot. And I think both those two teams are
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: going to be heavily in the Mike Tomlin mix because,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Dan Quinn, everyone I know that knows him
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: loves him. Seems like an incredible guy. Not sure how
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: dynamic of a head coach the guy is. You know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: had the one good season. Turns out that was probably
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: more Kyle Shanahan. You know, I actually, turns out that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was way more Kyle Shanahan. And maybe Dan Quinn, like
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of other guys, is just destined to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: a number two. And there's nothing wrong with that. In
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: this profession, it pays a boatload of money. But his
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: whole crew's wearing backwards hats. Guys are wide open. It's like, guys,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: this ain't working. And the Todd Bowles thing stopped working
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: in the middle of last year. And now once you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: start paying some of these guys and they start playing poorly,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I think both these franchises go off the rails pretty quickly.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And I saw Reuben Bain's stats through two games have
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: not been good. No pressures, no sacks. Those are the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: type of things that start adding up and they make
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a case against you. And I just think Tomlin for
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: these two spots makes a lot of sense. You can't
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: lose the Cleveland Browns in a seven-hour rain delay and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: have anyone think you're credible anymore. You know, you can't–
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting the Jane Daniels injury on Dan Quinn.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, you should have kicked the field goal. It's like, listen,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that elbow sure as hell looked like to me it
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: was meant to go. Some guys physically, for whatever reason,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: their body cannot hold up. I kind of remember some
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: weird elbow thing when he was in college that we
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: didn't make that much of it, and now back-to-back years
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of things just going the other way. Not saying that's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: an innocuous fall, right? It's a pretty, you know, you're
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: falling on the... I feel like guys fall on their
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: hand and arm like that to keep them up all
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the time in the NFL. Like, literally all the time.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And his arm just snaps. And for as much as
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Caleb is getting made fun of on the internet right now,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: there was a viral video of the broadcast, right? I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: didn't have the audio on that game on. When they
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: went to the locker room or, like, you know, under
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the tunnel... the broadcaster's like, here comes Jaden's wife. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: mean his mom. And that's not making fun of like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: an age gap. That's making fun of like, God, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: talk about a helicopter parent. I mean, yeah, Jesus. Now
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I get it. Parents, player get injured throughout the game.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously they're going to, it's not even that weird, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: it is kind of symbolic of the whole thing going
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: on with him. There was also the video of, Him
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: laying on the ground and no one breaks stride break
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to the halftime. I haven't seen any quotes from any
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: players being asked about it, but sometimes a video, a
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: five-second clip is worth a thousand words. And I was like, Jesus.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: The Caleb injury, you know, here's where I stand on
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: making fun of him. Because there is an element, like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you pull your hamstring and you act like that in
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Every human alive watching the game thinks your
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: season is done. I thought your season was done like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: everyone else when you get carted off crying because anytime
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a guy is carted off crying, it's typical of like
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: ripped up his knee, Achilles ripped apart, shoulder shattered, right?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, crazy part, not even the crazy part because
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I never apologize for watching that. Like I watch football
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: for the violence. I enjoy the violence of the sport
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and everyone knows what they're signing up for and they're
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: well compensated for it. But luckily, it turns out to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: be a hamstring injury. My take is simple. Former player,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want about that situation. You
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: have been in the arena. Booger-eating dude living in his
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: mom's basement can say whatever he wants to. No one
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: actually gives a shit. No one. And I repeat, no
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: one in the media is allowed to make fun of him.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: There is not a softer group of puss bags than
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the sports media. Now, I'm not saying people have, but
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: if people do, that is the one crew, unless that
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: person in the media, former NFL guy, like literally player.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: They're allowed to comment. But if you're just Big J. Jerno,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you ain't allowed to comment calling that guy a puss.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Just not able to. Because here's the other thing. Obviously,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: there are tougher players than others. I've watched him really
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: for the last five years going back to SC. And
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I would say toughness... in terms of play style and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: getting tackled and hit, is not an issue. I said
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it yesterday. I guess someone had mentioned that he had
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: this hamstring before at USC. I don't really remember that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was the last game. It was against UCLA.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. It feels like 15
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: years ago. But no one in the sports media is
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: allowed to make fun of him. Not a soul. I mean,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: you're not. It is... The memes are funny. They are...
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: And listen... I complain at when I don't have to
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: do the night shift in my family. And the night
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: shift for my little guy... can be every hour, every
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: night for months on end. I couldn't do two of
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: them back to back. I would quit. I would run away.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: She does it every single night. I do like one
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: 12 o'clock check in or feeding every I'm mentally breaking down.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: My wife's always had a joke. She's like, you know
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: what's funny is you guys say like in business or
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in life or football, like if you have big balls,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that's like a term of endearment, right? That's what you say.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Like you admire people with large cojones. Yet if I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: kick you in the nuts, you go down, right? And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: if you look at us, you go, hey, you know what,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you're just a wuss. We use those terms to call
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you just, you're a pussy, right? Jack and the whole
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: crew of humans come out that bad boy. I'm like, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: kind of a good point, you know? And I just,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, again, there are elements
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of it that are funny given what we had thought.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Now he's potentially week to week. We'll have to see
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: how this plays out. I just, someone that sits here
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and talks into a mic ain't gonna make fun of
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: him for freaking out, right? Paul Pierce got wheelchair because
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: he shit his pants, you know? This guy was– sad
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: part about that if you're a Bears fan. You know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I think– I saw some people say he was going
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to run in for a touchdown. I think there would
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: have been a pretty big collision. I wouldn't, like, just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: stake my claim that he was 100% scoring, assuming that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: his hamstring never goes, unless he, like, leaped over a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: guy and they went low. But those defenders were coming. Now,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: do what they eventually score– potentially. Obviously, they get the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: field goal block. I mean, it was a disastrous game.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: That was, like, the difference between Jaden Daniels and Caleb's injuries,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: even if we assume they're both about the same amount
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of time. Let's say worst case for Caleb, they're both
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: out two months, right? The Bears are a real team. Like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Commanders were going anywhere. Ben Johnson's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a real dynamic dude. Dan Quinn looks like my neighbor
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: barbecuing some burgers with a 12 back. You know, I,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I just, Caleb at this point in time, pre-injury, both
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of them. And listen, Jaden looked better against the Cowboys
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: whose defense still has some major, major issues. Uh, the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Christian Parker kind of jury is, is extremely out there.
• 42:05
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• 42:07
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• 42:10
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• 42:12
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• 42:15
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• 42:16
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• 42:19
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• 43:42
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• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I did this to myself. The
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: majority of Sunday morning, I had, you know, a four
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: box going. My other TV was the other games going.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And you're not going to... If you got two TVs,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: you just... You mute one and you pick the audio
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of one of the four games. And then depending if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: it's times a little off, one's at halftime, the others
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: are not, you can switch around. But I... I don't
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: spend that much time every two minutes going audio to audio.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I just kind of stick with what I think is
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the bigger game or better announcers. And I just listen
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to Nance and JJ Watt. And my big takeaway, and
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I wrote this down, Tony Romo's never coming back. They
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: clearly wanted out of the Tony Romo business before he
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: blew like a... I guess Keenan Allen was the guy
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that blew a 2-4. Tony was like a 1-7. And listen,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not one to judge. I'm not saying I've gotten
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a car, but I... I've blown in the twos in
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: my life. If you would have had a breathalyzer around me,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: just haven't been shrinking or whatever, but like when they're
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: looking for a reason and you get caught driving on
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the freeway, like they got their reason. And then you
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: watch J.J. Watt, like, J.J. 's not like the little
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: engine that could. He was one of the prominent star
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: players of his generation who was extremely commercially viable, right?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: He was, I would say, one of the key marketing figures,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: non-quarterback in the NFL for a six, seven year period.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And then you just listen to him, it's like, yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He's an easy listen. I think sometimes
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: we act like guys are, like Greg Olson, who I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: respect and like a lot, he's good. And listen, there's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: a big drop off between good and like, God, I
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to listen to this guy. And then there's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a big gap between like John Madden in his prime
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and good. All these guys, and being good, like you
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: can have a 20, 30 year career. And Tony Romo
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: at one point in time was good. And then clearly
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: he just stopped caring. and then they look for a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: reason to get out of the $ 80 million, and they
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: found one. And then they just inserted J.J. Watt, and
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I would guess they never look back. So whether you
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: consider that Wally pipped, whether you consider that, you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: one night in the clink cost you a gig, now
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I would imagine Tony Romo and his people will eventually
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: sue for the money that he's owed if they try
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to fire for cause. I'm not sure how all that's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: going to work out, but I feel my strong suspicion
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is J.J. Watt holds that position for the foreseeable future.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: The other thing is, this is what I've been asking for. Tom,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think, and this is part of it, right? You
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: become more comfortable with the cameras and the microphone. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the more you become comfortable, the more I get the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: real you. He called a Dak Prescott touchdown or a
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: long pass a piss missile. When Jaden's arm snapped, he said, oh, shit. Like, Tom,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: that's all we want. We want the guy from the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: locker room that everyone for 20 years said, coolest guy going,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: would come up to me and introduce myself. was just
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a dude, even as you became peak famous. And I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: get your world now in your late 40s, the fame
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in which you have is extremely unrelatable, even from Tom,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: probably 15, 20 years ago of fame. Like Tom was
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: always famous. I would say over the last five to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: 10 years, he's gone into a different stratosphere. And that
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: can change you, right? It's like, was it Eddie Murphy
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: or one of those guys said, you know, it's hard
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to be funny in satin sheets, like comedians, the more
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: success they have, the richer they get. Like their jokes
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: oftentimes aren't quite the same because typically when they're coming up,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: their jokes are kind of relatable. It's why we all laugh.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: They're willing, like before they're rich, they're willing to offend
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people because you know what? Most of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: us will laugh. Then you get super rich. It's like,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin this special. And they're not
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: quite the same guy. And whatever Tom Brady has deep
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: inside him, the guy that grew up, went to Michigan,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: became the Patriot quarterback, and was just a dude, we
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: just want more of that. And he's starting to show
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: some signs. And I think that comes with just being
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a little more comfortable. And I'm not saying even the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: swear word, but it just shows you like he's becoming–
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a little at ease in the booth, which was understandable
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: early on that he wasn't that comfortable because it's a
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: way different profession than the one he had playing quarterback
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: when he could do and say whatever he wanted on
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the field. Obviously, it's a little different, and it's hard.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, by all accounts, you don't have much time.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Things move fast. You have all these people, these critics
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that judge you. It's like, what are you actually really
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: supposed to say? Now he has some of these rules
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that he can't just rip people, not even saying that
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: he would have. But I just want more piss missiles
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: from Tom. The other thing is, I didn't see this
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: yesterday because, again, I didn't have the audio on. But
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: all the Eagles players said after the game, Lane Johnson said,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it was like 160 degrees on the Titans field, that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: he said it's one of the five toughest games he's
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: ever played. Sirianni had to get an IV. Other guys
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: were saying their cleats were melting and it felt like
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: they were at a NASCAR race in the pit crew. Now,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think all, some of these conversations with the NFL
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: PA and the NFL, it's not always black or white.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like the NIL stuff going on right now.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Like there's gotta be some middle ground. I don't pretend
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: to be like hardcore on one side or the other,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: but clearly you got to figure something out and meet
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: in the middle. I do think the grass and turf
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: fields should be pretty black and white at this point
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: in time. Because, you know, it's talked about a lot,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: like the equity and the valuations of the franchise. Just
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: when it comes to different conversations about money and paying
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and teams are cheap or whatever. you could have bought
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: your house for 500 grand and you could be sitting
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: in today and worth $ 5 million. It doesn't mean that
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you've have $ 4. 5 million extra in your pocket, right? So
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: until you sell or take a loan out against it,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: that equity is kind of meaningless. So like a lot
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: of these franchises have a lot of equity, unless they're
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: willing to sell some of that for a high valuation,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: who cares? It's just a fake number on a piece
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: of paper, right? But what does matter is cashflow. and revenue.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And all these teams are seeing a historic amount of
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: cash coming through and coming out. It's why Warren Buffett
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to Mark Walter love the insurance business. You know why?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Every single month, people are paying. And for whatever reason,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: no matter the type of insurance, health insurance, car insurance,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: home insurance, when they have to pay you that money
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you've been paying, you have to fight tooth and nail
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: for it. Yet you are legally obligated in a lot
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of times whether it's home or whether it's car to
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: pay them yet when you get screwed you have to
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: go to war to get some of that money back
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a crazy uh scam thing they got
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: going but regardless i was told and i've mentioned this
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: before that the price for the the field and again
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: this is like let's use the 49ers as an example
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that number ranges between three and five million dollars extra
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a year for them to have that grass, maintain that grass,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: take it on and off for different events in relation
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: to if they had turf, which after the initial price
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: is relatively cheap and free. So when you hear these
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: people bitching and moaning about not doing grass, it's costing them,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: let's say, $ 3 to $ 5 million. Let's just pick $ 5 million.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Let's get the highest number. When you have a salary
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: cap of $ 300 million and an annual revenue from the
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: media of $ 450 million, that's not even counting the gate
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: in your stadium. That's not counting the suites. That's not
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: counting the parking. That's not counting when Taylor Swift or
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Maroon 5 or you pick comes through, WrestleMania or the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Final Four, all that type stuff with your cashing in.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So when you get into a situation, and listen, the
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Titans are getting a new stadium. And hopefully they do grass.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: My guess is they probably do turf. But you have
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: no excuse at this point because that seems a little
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: ridiculous to me. The turf clearly, listen, I have turf
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: in my backyard. On a 110-degree day, you really feel that.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You know, where the grass is just not as hot.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And for people to, like, Lane Johnson's not just making
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: this up. You know, and I think the league, this
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: is something the NFLPA needs to draw a hard line on.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And listen, the business people of the NFL aren't dummies.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I think they're holding this in their back pocket that
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: they'll eventually give in on this and they're going to
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: ask for stuff on their end, whether that's the 18th game,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: whether that's whatever it may be. But you want, you know,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: lifetime health care or you want grass fields? Well, what
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: do you think the current players are going to vote on?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Give me grass fields. So I would guess one day
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: in the relatively near future we have all grass fields
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: because that's– this is not 1997. I mean, hell, the
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Raiders played with a dirt infield in September up until
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: they moved to Vegas in like 2000– boy, every year
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: that was, 20? So up until 2019 they had dirt infield.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Like that type of stuff is just an embarrassment. It
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: can't happen. Dirt infields, turf. Like, let's– we're paying these guys.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Hurts is making $ 50 million. Cam Ward
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: was the number one overall pick. Jeffrey Simmons is, like,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: one of the highest paid defensive tackles in the league.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: So is Jalen Carter. We're putting him out there on
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a 160-degree turf field. Like, come on. That's something like
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Roger or some of these guys. We got to figure
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: this one out. I'm on the player side on this one. Pennix.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: There was– I got a note from my guys today.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Michael Silver. Here was an excerpt from The Athletic. They're
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: not yet on Michael Penix, who is going to start
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: this Thursday. They're not yet questioning Penix's toughness inside the
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Falcons organization. But if delays his return much longer, they
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: likely will be. So essentially, being nice the way he
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: wrote it, of like, if he doesn't play here soon,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: we're going to have a fucking major problem. And I
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: wrote down, is Stefanski one and done? Is Stefanski the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: head coach of the Atlanta Falcons in 2027? They have
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: a first-time general manager who, is he going to want
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to connect himself to someone who wins two or three games?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Whose quarterback play is unwatchable? Who the fans just be like,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: we don't want to renew our season tickets. Matt Ryan
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: is part of this. I mean, he's a former quarterback.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: He's going to watch this. This is an absolute nightmare.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You know, they're playing the Packers on Thursday night in Lambeau.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: The Falcons are a rough watch. So the problem for
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Penix was if he had kept saying, because clearly he's cleared,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: his doctors say he's good to go, and he has
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: been saying, like, knee feels better than ever. If he
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: had said, I'm not yet comfortable, it doesn't feel right,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: no one questioned Malik Nabors. He's like, you know, I'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: just not confident in him yet. And all of his
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: guys tried to uplift him. This guy's the one saying, like,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I've been good to go for weeks. And it'd be
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: one thing to say, hey, you're a fourth-round pick. You're
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: not making that much money. It's like, what, I'm going
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to lay it on the line and ruin it for
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons? It's like, they drafted you eight. They're
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: paying you a premium. And if everything's checked out at
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: this point in time, but I can imagine from his end, like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: he's scared one more knee injury, career over. Kyler looks
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: like he's coming back. Mike Evans somehow got injured on
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: a sweet play. Alec Pierce, that ain't good. We had
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. I think I read today, Jaden
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Reed of the Packers is still in New Jersey on
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the injury he had against the Jets. When you just
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: go through Roto World on a Monday after the weekend,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, I just don't think, I don't know how
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: this is sustainable. So when we talk about 18 games,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: we're not even to October yet. And look at the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: injury list for all these teams. 18 games. This is
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: not a sustainable product. It's the one thing that makes
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: me nervous for the sport that I love, the sport
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that I do this for a living. It's like, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, man. They got to figure something out because
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: bodies just drop like flies. Major injuries. I saw Will Johnson,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, neck injury, probably lost for the season. It's
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: like one of their better players. Before we do some
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: mailbag questions, my dad diaries is everyone with little kids
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: knows their nails get really long and it's kind of twofold, right?
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: When you're playing with them. Or when they get mad,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: they can just gash you like Wolverine. Or when they're
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: sleeping and rolling around, you'll go get them in the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: morning and they'll have like a gigantic, you know, cut
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: across their forehead or their cheek because they're just scratching themselves,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: not even realizing it. And it'd just be like a
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: massive scab down the side of their face. So you
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: got to cut their nails. And I think Maria bought
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: some like baby nail clippers. But I'm like, you know what?
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I can handle this, and I use normal nail clippers.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And he actually was always, for the last three months,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: has always been really chill. If I get him in
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the morning, put him in his little bouncy, he'll just
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: kind of give me his hands. I'll do a little pedicure,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and I'll chop his nails. The other day, it was like, God,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: he had a scratch on his head. I looked at
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: his nails. He had a couple claws. I'm like, okay,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: let's go to work here. It's about 7 in the morning,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and I haven't even had my coffee yet. He starts
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: kind of getting wiggly and squiggly. So I'm doing it.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Pretty good job. But a couple of the fingers, he's
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: not really feeling. So he kind of yanks and I
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: kind of clip. But it's not like he's crying or anything.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even notice. I'm just like, okay, that went
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: pretty well. And then maybe like 30 minutes later, he's
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like sitting in this bouncy and there is just blood everywhere.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, did the dog bite him? Did something happen?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even cross my mind that it's the nail
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: clippers because... I just see blood streaks, you know, and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: it's clearly coming from him somewhere, but I can't quite
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: figure it out. And then I look on the tip
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of like his index finger. There's a tiny little cut
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: that just is just being relentless with blood. So I
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: get a little paper towel. I stop it. It's really small,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: but I can't. get it to stop bleeding and babies
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: so I chat GPT it because I don't want to
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: wake her up quite yet You know, you can't really
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: put a bandaid because it's like a choking hazard, right?
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: He naturally puts a lot of things in his mouth.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: That thing would come right off. So I'm just like
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: trying to hold his hand above his hand or above
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: his head. He's fucking going nuts, which in fairness to him,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: he's like, why are you doing this to me? But
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's the only way to attempt to slow it down,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: but it's not slowing down. I can't get the blood
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: to stop. And then eventually she comes out and like,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: see if you can help. And she's trying it. But
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: then the moment you take off the paper towel, it
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: just starts bleeding. And it's such a tiny little cut
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that will not stop bleeding. So eventually we kind of
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: have to strap them down. She helps me with a bandaid.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we're going to put a bandaid on
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: for like 30 minutes and just watch him like a Hawk.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: If his finger ever gets close to his mouth, we
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: just grab him. But this is the only way to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: stop it. Or else there was, there was blood on
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: the rug, blood on the, on the floor. Um, And yeah,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: that's being a parent. Let's answer a couple quick mailbag questions.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: in those DMs. Get your questions answered here on the show.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Quick question. What's with the television crews calling the red
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: zone the red area? Is red zone somehow politically incorrect?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: What gives? It's crazy that you even need to ask
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the second part of that question. To my knowledge, it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with PC. It has to do,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I think, just a lot of coaches call it the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: red area. So to me, red zone, red area, I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: always look at them completely the same. Maybe... Maybe the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: red area is the 25 and in. When I hear
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: anything red, red area, red zone, I think the 20
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and in. So I think that's what most fans– I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: think why a lot of these guys say that is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: because they talk to the coaches, and sometimes that's just
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: how the coaches talk. But they're not saying anything that like–
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're trying to act smart or anything.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I just think sometimes it gets in the vernacular because
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the world they're in. talking to those guys,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: but it's, I, I don't think it's any deeper than that.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I know it's not. Why do you and Colin like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert so much? I feel like beside the physical attributes,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: he's an average quarterback, in the playoffs especially. He's never
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: shown why he's a top 10 pick in the draft.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: He doesn't handle pressure moments very well, and he needs
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a running game to succeed. I would push back that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: he's never shown why he's been a top 10 pick.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's 100% shown that. He has played horrendous
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I will not dispute that. His team
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: is a joke right now. He hasn't played well. His
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: offensive line is an embarrassment. His running back is fumbling
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: left and right. His personnel around him sucks. Mike McDaniel's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: been awful. Like, Jim Harbaugh has kind of come into question.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is imploding, right? And obviously, he, I guess,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: could do more, but I know this. Here's the way
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I look at it. And listen, like we talk about
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, do you trust him? Like, yeah. When we've
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: seen some of these moments with Justin Herbert, a lot
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: of people would not trust him. And I think that
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: is fair. But I also think when you look at him,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot of, to me, there's some context
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: that goes in with this. And I think this team...
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is just not well coached. And I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: think specifically the offense is a nightmare. It's clear when
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: you watch him. Something is off. And it's not just him.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: It's not just the offensive line. But it's bad. The
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Chargers currently, through two games, are a complete joke. There's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: no way around it. And this Jim Harbaugh thing, I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: push back against it. We have seen way weirder. So,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: who knows? I know this. When they start firing and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: trading people, I'll promise you this. The last person in
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: that building, beside the ownership, that will get traded or
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: fired or cut will be Justin Herbert. And if he
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: became available, there would be a long line ready to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: get his to acquire him, including some teams that already
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: have quarterbacks. I promise you that. So there's nothing I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: can say right now based on the two games. He
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: has not played well. The whole team hasn't played well.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: They're an awful watch. Not as bad as the Steelers,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: but pretty bad. And Kirk Cousins outplayed him. I mean,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was standing there delivering some strikes. Kirk Cousins
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: played well. So I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm not just going to sell all my stock.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I might trim a little bit. I might trim. Just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: watch the Cowboys defense get diced up by Mariota and
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: it got me thinking. Maybe Christian Parker is not the problem,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: but the real problem is our inability to draft players.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Everyone around the NFL is nothing but praise for Parker,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and I refuse to believe that Zimmer and Eberflus just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: forgot how to coach. In the draft classes from 21
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: to 23, the Cowboys have drafted 16 defensive players and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: only have two picks on the roster. Yeah, we're going
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: to learn a lot more this week against the Ravens.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Even Jaden, before he got injured, missed. I don't think
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: it was McLaren. I forget who it was, but it
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: was a deep bomb, and the guy had him beat.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I just feel... I'm with you. The personnel in the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: back end, beside Caleb, looks a little hit or miss.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like every time I looked over at that game,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: there was a defender laying on the ground. I think
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I saw Schottenheimer today say that, yeah, a couple of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the guys are going to miss some time. They've had
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of defensive injuries early in this season. But...
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I... I think any time that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you install this new defense, you go from a 4-3
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: to a 3-4, there's a transition. But you still got
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: to know where to be. Just to stand. Like, hey,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: this guy is this part of the field. I have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: this part of the field. This guy has the curl
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: to flat. I have the deep half or the deep
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: third or whatever. And that doesn't mean balls aren't going
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: to get completed and you're going to give up some
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: chunk plays. But at least you'll have a guy there
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to make a tackle. And one thing you notice is like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: There's no one even there. It was definitely that way
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: with the commanders. There's nothing worse than watching a football
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: team that just doesn't know what they're doing. The Cowboys
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: have had that vibe a little bit on offense. Luckily,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott on defense and the offense was incredible. Hope
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: you're having a great day. I got a question on
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the pod. I know you don't have a lot of
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: love for the Panthers. Not true. Your boy made a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: little personnel move with his fantasy team. And I benched Burrow.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I picked up Bryce Young off the waiver wire, and boom!
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: He was slinging that pill. I love Bryce Young against
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. Tied for first passing touchdown, second in passing yards.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I texted with a buddy the other day, and I said,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you know what stands out about Bryce? His arm looks stronger.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: His arm looks stronger. And he's playing really well. He
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: played well at the end of last season. He's playing
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: really well these two weeks. He's slinging that pill around.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: They got Leggett's making plays. Obviously, McMillan and Coker. They
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: have good offensive personnel. There's no disputing that. And he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: looks good. He's always been a natural player. That's how
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you go to Alabama in the peak of their powers
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: at 5'10, a buck 80. You are an instinctive, like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: it's not your, you're not Josh Allen walking through the door. Right?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: It's more that you know how to play the position.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: He's always known how to play. But when he first
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: got to the league, he looked small. His arm kind
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: of looked weak. His arm looks stronger now. I'm sure
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: he's just matured in terms of the offense. Second year
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: with Canales, he looks good. They look good. I would
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: say right now, nine to ten wins, either the Carolina
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Panthers or the New Orleans Saints win that division. I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: picked the Saints before. I'm not pivoting off that, but
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: If they're going to throw the ball at this rate
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: with Bryce and those receivers, they're going to be a problem.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: What the hell happened to Marvin Harrison? I'm an Ohio
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: State fan and always thought his comp would be Devontae Adams.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Doesn't rely on athleticism so much as route running and craftiness.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Now it looks like he's going to be one of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the biggest busts ever. As a scout, do other scouts
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: see something the rest of us don't? Well, one thing
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Devontae Adams has is a deep burning desire to be
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: great at football. A deep burning desire, at least throughout
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: his entire career, to prove people wrong, to be a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: great player, to make plays, to compete at the highest level.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: to you know when Sunday comes it's not life or
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: death but to go to war and to me Marvin
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Harrison plays like a rich kid like whatever I'm here
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and I had a personnel guy tell me he went
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to his pro day he's like he was catching the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: ball against his body I think sometimes the hype gets
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: out of control because of his dad he ain't his
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: dad His dad was a badass. I mean, his dad's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: one of the great players we've ever seen. Marv doesn't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: clearly have the fire because Mike Wilson lapped him immediately.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: He just... I think there's probably a better 50% chance
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: that he's not on the team. It's just not working.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: There's no other way around it. It's just not working.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't see how it's going to work. Loyal listener,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Vikings are 2-0 versus Green Bay and Chicago. I know
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: that weather was an issue last week. They had to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: play in it too. But as a Vikings fan, I
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: think everyone pays too much attention to the quarterback and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: not enough attention to the defense and skill players around
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the quarterback as a whole. Football is a team game.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I think it shows. The fact the Vikings are 2-0
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: in the division with Carson Wentz while beating the MVP
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: favorites Jordan Love and Caleb Williams. Do you still think
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: the Vikings will be an easy number four in the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: division after watching the first two weeks of football? Well,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the Packers have a lot of issues. So they'll probably,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be stunned. If the Packers, LaFleur deserves
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: to get fired if he can't beat the Atlanta Falcons
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: at home on Thursday night. So assuming the Packers win,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: they're 2-0. Everyone can take a deep breath. The Lions
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: have massive issues on defense. And there's been a lot
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: of intrigue on Tyson over the years, right? I mean,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: they have turned down trades. They extended them. depending on
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: how long Caleb's out, let's just say he's out six games.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: So he's out four games. Like, can he just win
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: every other game? I don't know. It's going to be
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. I mean, the Bears
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: defense stinks. And one thing Caleb could always do is like,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: make enormous plays with his legs too. Like this Tyson,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Tyson doesn't have the arm, doesn't have the speed. Not
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't have a bad arm or a bad athlete,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: but it's just, he's backing for a reason. And, uh, Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's take a peek at the Vikings schedule. 2-0.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Technically in first place overall in the NFL schedule. Okay.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: At Tampa, that's a winnable game. You would think, I mean,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: is Tampa just going to go 0-3? Miami win. So
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: even if you lost to Tampa... You're 3-1. At New Orleans,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: that's a tough game, but Flores against Tyler Shuck and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, interesting. Indy at Detroit. Buffalo, Green Bay, San Francisco. Yeah,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I think they get to nine wins. If you get
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: to nine wins with Carson Wentz and Kyler Murray, that'd
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: be really, really impressive. Just because, I mean, you just
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: won a game like... It's pretty crazy that you guys
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: won the game 9-6. Carson was 11 of 20, 140 yards,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: didn't throw a touchdown, didn't throw a pick either. Aaron
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Jones had 100 yards. Yeah, I mean, that was an
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: impressive win. Just one ugly. Coaching staff's good. Your defensive
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: coordinator's awesome. If you're just blitzing that many times with
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: guys in the line of scrimmage, it's clearly throwing guys off.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is like you guys have been
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: defined as a defense, I feel like, for 15 years,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: maybe 10-ish, right? When Zimmer in their heyday, like 15, 16, 17,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: kind of that range. Mike Zimmer just blitzed nonstop. Basically
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: like his A-gap. You know, what were they called? I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: forget the name of the blitz. I felt like he
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: was more aggressive up the middle where Flores is coming
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: from all angles. But you guys have been a blitzing team.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It's kind of been defining of the Minnesota Vikings defense
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: over the years. Any chance the Titans could have a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: decent season? Something like 8-9 or 7-10? No. No. You
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: guys got no shot. I'm sorry. I mean, Jalen gifted
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: you seven points. The field was 700 degrees. Like, that's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: a weird game. I think the Eagles beat you nine
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: out of ten times. You know, Jalen threw another bad pick.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I think you guys are terrible. I saw Roger Goodell
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: on TNF pregame show speaking with the panel. He essentially
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: admitted the NFL is planning to roll out more international
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: games to garner more interest. With higher interest, they said
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: they'd then start a new franchise. It got me thinking.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: They couldn't do just one new team. They'd have to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: do two. Where do you believe they'd put them first? London?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Mexico City? Congrats on the new baby. I appreciate that.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, honestly, we'll cross that bridge
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: when we really come to like, hey, they're having initial conversations.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: They're having bidders. I still feel like we're a little
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: far away from that. That would definitely complicate the league
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit more to have Mexico City and London.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Just from a logistical standpoint, maybe I'm being naive, but
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's right around the corner. Maybe
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I could be dead wrong on this. I don't even
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: pretend to have any inside information. It doesn't feel like
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a team in London soon. London
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: would definitely be one. They technically could do two in London.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Or two in just the greater, is it the UK?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I've never really been over there. Maybe I'm a biased
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Packer fan, but I don't have Colin and most of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the media think Herbert is clearly better than Love. Both
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: are dealing with atrocious O-lines, but Love actually finds ways
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: to make plays, put up better numbers. Jordan Love's playing
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: better than Justin Herbert. I'm not going to argue with
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: you in 2026. Jordan Love threw two games. I mean,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: their run game, I mean, the two running backs just
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: aren't good enough. I mean, it's just the Jacobs situation
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: with him, I don't know, going to jail or whatever,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: is a nightmare. I mean, you feel that when you
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: watch it. But Watson looks really good. Golden's flying around.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft. Their weapon, Jaden Reed before he got hurt,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: their weapons on the Packers are legit. To add to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: the last point, it's not just Khalil Mack. The Guilty
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: as Charged podcast is a group of guys that cover
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the Chargers and have almost... Because I guess Khalil Mack
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: said after the game, like asked about Jim Harbaugh's message
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: to the team. He said he wasn't listening because he
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: just couldn't even think straight. So a lot of people
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: took that as like he's checked out. And then this
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Charger podcast, they have a bunch of sources in the
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Chargers building because they used to be featured on the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Chargers official socials. They said last night that they were
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: told that Herbert and Keenan Allen were fed up with
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh experience and did not like Harbaugh after last season.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on how feeling could impact Herbert and the team? Well,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, one knock on Harbaugh, Jim that is, in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: the pros versus college is like in college you get turnover, right?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Your best players stay there three years gone, four years gone.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: In the NFL, you're going to be around the guy
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: potentially a long, long time. And I remember when the 49ers,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: who no one wanted to hear it at the time
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: because part of it was you can't fire Jim Harbaugh
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: for Jim fucking Tom Sula. You could fire a John
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh, but you better have a real replacement.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: They fired John Harbaugh. You couldn't hire some scrub. Who'd
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: they get? Jesse Minter. If you're going to fire Pete Carroll,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: go get Mike McDonald. You've got to get a real replacement. And...
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I heard a lot of stories that certain guys, prominent guys,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: were like, this is too much. I think Jim definitely
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: has a way to him that not everyone... He's a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: different cat. You could argue he's a loony. But I've
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: always supported him because he's always won. I don't like
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: loonies that lose. I know a lot of crazy-ass people
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: in business. If they make a lot of money, hey,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you want to do this deal? If the guy ain't
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: making any money or is a shady character, stay away
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: from him. So some nut jobs are really successful. And
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's resume speaks to real success. Now, recently, I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: think some people would come out of left field and go, well,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: he was never really getting over the top at Michigan.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: He gets this Army Ranger who's stealing signs. They take
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: a huge leap, start beating Ohio State. I think that
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: is going to get more into question. They just keep
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: losing and completely implode. If Justin Herbert truly turns on
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, it crossed my mind watching them get their
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: asses kicked. kicked yesterday. If you just tell me they
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: go six and 11 and Herbert hates them, maybe it
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: is time for a divorce. And I think the question
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: would be like, would anyone else hire Jim? Would anyone
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: else hire Jim? And I think they would. Like you're
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: telling me the Glaciers wouldn't hire Jim Harbaugh? You're telling
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: me Josh Harris wouldn't hire Jim Harbaugh? So if this
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: thing gets really weird, I'm starting to come around like
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: everything would be on the table. I don't feel, I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: wouldn't bet my life that Jim Harbaugh is the coach
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: of the Chargers next year. If this thing just goes
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: off the rails. I mean, right now they look like
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: one of the worst teams easily in the NFL. They
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: can't function. Now, I would say to Dean and the
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Spanos family, it's like, well... When I look online, it
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: says that you're 31st in cash spending this year. So
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: let's not act like you're doing everything humanly possible to
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: have the best roster. You're not manipulating the salary cap
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: by front-loading big, huge cash to land a bunch of
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: dudes in free agency. That's not what you're doing. Not
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: really your deal, which is fine. But historically, you guys
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: have hit on a lot of draft picks, and your
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: rosters have been pretty good. But... A little harder now,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: and you've got to be a little more aggressive. You
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: can't just get that 3.75 savings interest rate that you
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: probably have hundreds of millions of dollars. You're like, just look, Dad,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: how much we made. Great, guys. Yeah. Meanwhile, Jeffrey Lurie
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and all the big spenders around the league are just
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: cutting huge checks to, I don't know, try to compete
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: every year. So I will never come off that ledge
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: of the family mentality. which is inherently really cheap. And
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I got no problem being cheap when you don't have
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: much money in life. Totally get it. But when you
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: have unlimited money at this point relative to buy guys,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: unlimited would be strong. That's not fair. But you have
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: more capability than what you're doing. They'd be like, well,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: we're spending a bunch on the coach. Well, yeah, it's
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: price of admission. Do you want to compete? You better
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: have a 15, $ 20 million coach. Look around the league.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Who are the best coaches? Who are the teams that win?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Mike McDonald.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Tell you this, Mike McDonald's in line for a big-ass race.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: They go back to the playoffs, win a couple games,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: even if they don't win the Super Bowl. He's going
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: to say, double that, bitch. You know? He's making probably
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: half what Pete Carroll made at the end. We saw
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll try to coach last year. You talk about
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: a Fugazi. Totally. Cannoli. Okay, adios. We will talk later.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: The Volume.