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Guerilla Warfare For Truth In The Bronx- Jose Vega · UK Column Radio

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I just I'm looking for the one with Seymour Hirsh because it's a policy and
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press hall event. So shouldn't we be talking about the nord Stream since that's
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the biggest story of the century. And you guys, you know, I
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mean, you have the executive editor of The New York Times there who came
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out with a phony story to try and block Seymour Hirsh. It's just kind
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of funny how that happened, you know. I mean, did you even
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acknowledge Seymour Hirsh. All of you were executive editors of papers that broke Pentagon
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Meli Watergate? Is this the same papers or not? I mean, is
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there anything you've gotten right in the last twenty years or am I mistaken about
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that? I mean, it's just kind of funny because I act wrong,
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Syria wrong, Russia, Yate really wrong, Okay. I mean the list
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goes on and on. So the last thing you could do to try and
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actually fix your reputation is acknowledge that through leaks we had to find out that
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Zolenski was going to bomb Moscow on the anniversary. I mean, if you're
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so impartial, shouldn't you at least say right that Zelenski was going to bring
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us on the verge of World War three. That seems pretty fair. While
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Julian Assans ronson prison, all of you got you know, fat checks because
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he's in jail for doing your job. And you know what, Tucker Carlson
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ain't no Seymour hirsh but he did something you guys are scared to do,
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speak the truth and actually be critical of the war, which is why he
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was actually fired from Box. Because you are all cows, every single one
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of you. None of you have actually had any relevancy. And you know
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what, the mainstream press is now dying. Nobody's ever gonna listen to you
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again. You have no credibility with the public. The only people who care
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about what you have to say are elite assholes who have nothing productive to say
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anymore. And it's dying off. So will you at least say something either
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about north Stream or Ukraine or the fact that Zelenski brought us to the verge
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of World War three and the only reason we knew about that Western leaks.
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Hell, I go ahead, it's a free speech event, right, you
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guys are the press. Let's say something here, mister Khan, come on.
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You know, you're the executive out of the New York Times. You
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know, I'm just trying to get into some good trouble here. Man.
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Listen, Karen, get out of my face for a second. I gotta
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talk to these gentlemen. Well, I just want to hear what they have
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to say. Go ahead, I'm done. I'm gonna you know, I'm
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telling you you could, you could project if we can't everybody you need?
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Yeah, thank you? Right? Do you think that we need to give
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us questions? We're on the verge of World War three? Let's say something
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about this bombing we blew up the nord Stream pipeline. Listen, don't stand
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there while there are people writing in prison. Nobody said anything about Huru right,
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the socialists or in jail from being critical of this war. God damn
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it. Listens. At least say something about people in jail for being critical
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of this war. They don't deserve to be in prison. Right now,
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Welcome to UK column. So that was Jose Vega from New York. Uh
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And well, I'm very pleased that Jose is with me. Now. Welcome
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to the program. Jose. That was a fantastic little piece of video and
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of course there are other examples of the same type of intervention with various types
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of people. This isn't something we see very often over here in the UK.
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Maybe we need to see much more of it. But tell us what
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inspires you to do these interventions. Yeah, well, Mike, thank you
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for showing the interventions, and thank you for having me on. You're always
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on our shows, and now I get to be on your show, so
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I'm happy about that. What inspired me to do these interventions is the fact
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that I think the world is starving for truth, and rather than waiting for
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somebody else to start telling it, I want to tell it. I want
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to be the one to tell it. And that's why I've decided to stand
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up and start telling the truth. And that's why these interventions have resonated around
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the world. I mean, the intervention that you showed, you know,
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I think was translated like by seven eight different languages or so, and then
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I get those sent back to me, you know, and then they appear
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in like telegram channels and Russian telegram channels and Chinese social media, Italian,
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French span. I mean, it's absolutely crazy, but I'm happy about the
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response that I get. And yeah, Ultimately, I just I just didn't
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want to wait for somebody to start telling the truth, so I decided to
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start telling it myself. Yeah, that's brilliant. Now you are, I
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believe in New York you've decided to stand for Congress. Now, of course
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you're affiliated with Childern Institute and Laruish Organization and so on, But is that
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what has inspired you to stand. You're standing alongside Diane Sarah. Of course,
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you're standing for the Senate. Is it the activism that's inspired you to
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stand or are you taking the opportunity to campaign because the election is happening.
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Yeah? I mean, you know, I get asked this a lot as
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to like why I decided to actually run. I mean, I know I
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had someone who was disappointed and said, you know, I wish you would
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keep the activism going. Truth is, somebody has to emulate and show people
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what a real congressman can be, what a real politic can actually be.
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And my opponent is just completely disgusting. You know. I saw something in
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the in the New York Post. I think it was that they did a
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statistic that he actually mentions Israel two hundred and thirty six percent more times than
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he does his own district or the Bronx as a whole, right, And
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meanwhile, the district that I'm in is the poorest congressional district in the entire
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country, the entire country. It's absolutely horrible. And so I decided I
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need to actually emulate and start, you know, standing up for you know,
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truth, just like but just in the same way that I do.
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The activism in the interventions is the exact same way. I decided, you
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know what, now I need to sell the truth, and I need to
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get a higher platform out there, and I need to actually challenge the war
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months. So you have mentioned the Bronx. This is where you grew up,
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So tell us a little bit about your upbringing that because I mean you
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have you have published some history of the last well of your lifetime there.
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Yeah, there's there's a documentary that my friends have due Dissidence made and I'm
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really happy about that documentary. I you know, growing up here in the
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Bronx, I mean you're surrounded by poverty, You're surrounded by crime. Yes,
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you know, there's drug addicts everywhere. It's not just the Bronx,
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of course, I mean the entire city has essentially collapsed and fallen apart.
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But I think you know, what I'm trying to do is kind of redefine
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what it means to be from the Bronx. That's That's what I'm going for.
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It's I want to make sure that when people think of the Bronx,
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they don't think about the violence, they don't think about the illiteracy or the
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miseducation. They actually think about what's real. They think about they think about
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the fact that, like I want to make an astronomy club here in the
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Bronx, that I want to actually make something great here in the Bronx where
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people can be inspired or have a space center, you know, I want
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people advocating for a space center. I have no illusion that I'm going to
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win. I have no illusion that I'm going to get votes, but I'm
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going to do what I can't. So what do you what do you expect
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from the from the election? What kind of response are you getting and what
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kind of result do you expect? Well? I, uh, well,
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I mean uh where. I don't know if we're going to be on YouTube
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or not, but can I talk about electric Frogs? Oh? You go
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for it that we are not going to be on YouTube probably Okay, Uh,
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election fraud is what I was trying to say. There is we you
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know, Diane. And I met with a state legislator who I won't say
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his name, but somebody who was pretty in a senior position, who said
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to me, you know, Jose, you should have ran as a Democrat.
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You know, you might have had a bigger platform and a bigger,
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bigger visibility. And I said, do you honestly think I would have been
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allowed to win and given an honest vote? And he said to me,
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yeah, I mean I was there the night, you know. And he
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wouldn't tell me the year, but he said, you know, pretty recently
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when the Board of Elections took all the voting machines after the polls closed,
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took them into a building, locked the building, and then just started switching
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the votes around. And I was like, what he just told Shana told
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me that that they just started switching votes around. And I said, you
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need to come out publicly, and he just he wouldn't do it, and
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he said it'll be in my book when I publish it. It'll be in
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my book. And I was just like, what, So, you know,
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the kind of result I expect is one that they need to give me
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in order to humiliate me. Right, something like one two percent of the
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vote. I don't know, you know, something to make it seem like
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they have to make sure that there cannot be any legitimate kind of resistance or
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opposition to the status quo that already exists. So they're going to try and
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stop me out at in the in the ballot box. And you know,
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the kind of response we've been getting has been a national response so far apart
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from the people here in the Bronx, right, I get tons of support
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in the Bronx. People can go on my social media at josbtri gga that's
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my Twitter and Instagram and stuff, and don't have about the name, but
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I have videos of people who like come into where I work. As you
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know, I work in the Bronx. People know where I work, which
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is where I am now, and they come in here and then they want
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to take pictures with me or videos with me endorsing me. And then I
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have the national response, which is that when people donate or they sign up
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to my website, I call them to personally thank them for supporting my campaign.
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And these are people like Florida Connecticut. These are people in California,
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Kentucky, Iowa, like the entire nation, you know, is basically saying
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like, yeah, we got your back, we support you, we want
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to see you succeed in the Bronx. And so I can't thank people enough
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for the outpouring of support. It has moved me to tears many times.
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And now now that the crying has to stop and the action has to has
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to keep going. So yeah, okay, So when I look at you
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and I listen to you, you're coming across as a very optimistic, enthusiastic,
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motivated individual in the fist of other pessimism. So you know, I
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can think of many, many people that would take the autitude off. Well,
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you know, the voting is rigged. What the hell's the point,
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let's not bother. How do you motivate yourself and what do you say to
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people that are that take this this pessimist, this pessimist point of view.
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You know, it's not easy. I mean I can tell you that I
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think I understand pessimism. I understand why somebody would think that, you know,
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voting is useless and why there's no reason to do it, because,
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like I said, I mean I just laid out to you the fraud,
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and I told that you with a smile on my face. Right, It's
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like, oh yeah, by the way, they're going to stop me out
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at the ballot box. First of all, I think you have to laugh
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at it. You just have to laugh at the absurdity of it, because
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the alternative is crying about it, right, and you know it's better to
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laugh and cry. I think what kin it keeps me motivated is the fact
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that, you know, my association with the Schiller intitude for the last ten
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years of my life. I'm twenty five. I've been around since I was
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about fifteen years old. You know, it's always been this emphasis on culture,
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classical culture, and I think, you know, I really draw from
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those sources and those wells of Shakespeare, Beggar Poe, who you know has
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his cottage here in the Bronx, and also people like Beethoven and Mozart and
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Bach. You know, I believe that all art is inherently political, but
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also it's inherently optimistic about people, that people will always overcome and can surmount
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any obstacle that seems impossible, you know. And I think ultimately the ultimate
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driver of what drives me. Is just it's just love. It's just love
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and empathy for mankind. You know, I'm a believer in the poem.
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You know, no man is an island. Every man's death diminishes me because
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I am a part of mankind. Yeah, of course, you know.
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So ask not for whom the bell tolls for, it tolls for thee I
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mean, if that is the case, and I have to be optimistic because
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people are relying on me and looking up to me and hope that I can
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do something for the country. And then I look at them and I say,
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now you have to do something too. You know, it can't just
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be me. I understand there's a lot of people who want to see me
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succeed, maybe want to see me win. I just don't know if that's
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possible. But what we can do with the campaign is inspire other people to
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actually stand up and do what I've done. And I'm hoping that my optimism
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is contagious enough that it will make others act too, in the name of
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mankind. You know, I don't think I'll see in my lifetime a change
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or a success, but what we will see, hopefully is other people acting.
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And if we start acting now. The future will be defined by what
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we do. Now. What is your view of the world at the moment?
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Where do you say the opportunities? Oh? Well, as Lynda Laruche
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is to say, you know, things aren't as bad as you think they
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are. They are far worse. I think that's kind of the world I
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see it right now, you know, I mean, I have to bring
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this up. You know, the guy who committed self the Malaysia yesterday,
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you know, a guy burned himself alive thing in front of an Israeli embassy.
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He you know, I think his last words were something like, I'm
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about to commit an extreme act protest, but nothing as extreme as what the
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people of Palestine are going through. And honestly, it really does break my
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heart that this young man twenty five years old, right, the fact that
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this guy is the same age as me, and I'm deciding to run for
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Congress and he decides to burn himself alive as a way to protest what's going
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on. He is a service He, by the very virtue of being in
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the military, has decided that his life, the meaning of his life,
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will be to protect and service country and serve its best interest. And he
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has now felt that there is no recourse from the genocide that the United States
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and Israel is actively committing, and he did not want to be a pond
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to it. He did not want to take orders. I think that something
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that Max Blumenthal shared this recently, that the Air Force was giving orders that
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you know, the Air Force is supposed to help in the air space in
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Israel or something, and so this soldier is like, I'm not doing that,
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and he decided to burn himself alive. I mean, that is an
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extreme active protest, as he said, And my heart just breaks about the
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fact that he felt as if he had to do that. And I think
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our responsibility right now for us that are living, has to be to provide
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a living alternative to the problems and the pessimism of the world. And my
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heart breaks for him. We will mourn him and his family, and I
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don't want to let his death go in vain. And I look at it
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and it's like, my job is to make sure that nobody else has to
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burn themselves alive to get a message out there and tell the truth about what's
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going on. Why are there so few willing to take the stand that you're
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taking, well, I mean maybe during the Ukraine when Ukraine in Russia,
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when that war first broke out, it was definitely like standing up against that
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status quote because people didn't really like the general population didn't really understand like they
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yes, you know, oh Putin is this authoritarian dictator, and to stand
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up against that, yeah, that that was kind of scary, but people
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still did it. But now what you're seeing is like every week there's like
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a new intervention, like Kamala Harris can't step outside without kidding yelled at or
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Biden or the media or even people in Lockheed Martin, Like I saw there
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was this thing where Lockheed Martin was speaking at a university of some recruiters for
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Lockheed Martin. They were speaking at a university and then the people asking questions
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were like, how many of your missiles are being used to kill children in
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Gaza right now? You know? Like I was just like yeah, yeah,
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And that went viral and so and then there was this thing in Berlin
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at the Cinema of Peace, I think that's the name of it, right.
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Hillary Clinton was heckled and there were like five six people all stood up
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in that same style that I did against other people where they were just like
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denouncing her. They were delivering this righteous fury and justice to her. Like
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these are happening almost every day, and that makes me optimistic because it's creating
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attention around the world. Right the fact that that happened in Berlin and the
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fact that you have the Hillary Clinton heckling happening here in the United States and
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in Berlin. Yeah, no, we are on the cusp as bad as
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things look right now, to completely overturn the chessboard and take over and create
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a virtuous world where the truth tellers are the ones in power and the liars
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are where Julian Assange's right now, what would that world look like, Oh,
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where people told the truth and the liars going to jail. The virtuous
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world that you're talking about, how do you see that being? Oh?
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I see that being a world where people can actually respect each other's sovereignty,
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where countries don't have to step on each other and feel as if they have
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to, you know, put their imperialist boot on their necks and tell them
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what to do. The first thing would be dismantling two hundred and something military
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bases that the United States has around the world and bringing the war criminals to
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justice. It would be a world where a Richie Sunac or a Boris Johnson
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would have never come close to being in power. And it would be a
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world in which people can look and say, like, why the hell did
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we elect Joe Biden who keeps falling asleep at the wheel every ten seconds?
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And we would have presidential candidates who are not incompetent. And I think not
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only that, but it would be a world of development. It would be
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a world where there would be no poverty, or poverty would be something that
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studied in history books, and it would be a world in which there's just
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development always. And it would be something where young men and women can you
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know, expand their creative potential, put out of missions into you know,
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space, and create advanced medical research that creates cures for things that people don't
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think there can be a cure for, like AIDS or answer. I mean,
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it's just it would be a complete orientation shift between a one trillion defense
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budget to a one trillion national development budget. What could the country do with
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one billion dollars? I've won trillion dollars of addressing homelessness, of addressing the
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underdevelopment, of addressing our terrible infrastructure. It would just be a complete,
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total one eighty shift. Do you think that idea of the world is represented
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by what the global size is building at the moment. Yes, absolutely.
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The Bricks is like that's like, that's the alternative. You know, Brazil,
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Russia, India, China, South Africa plus now they got like twenty
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three countries now that that are officially part of Bricks. You know, they
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are saying, we want a multi polar world, not this stupid unipolar rules
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based order world. And so they are offering a complete alternative and rejection to
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in the imperialist ways. And before the Bricks, there was the Non Aligned
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movement, and I think even Malcolm X had had had spoken one of these
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things and had supported the non Aligned movement. And yeah, so I yes,
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I completely agree that Global South is kind of like taking the first steps
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towards that. As a US congressman, as somebody who is running for office,
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I would call for the United States to join the Bricks. You know,
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the Chinese have invited every presidential administration since the launching in twenty thirteen to
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join, have invited the United States to join the Bricks. You know,
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they invited Obama, they invited Trump, and they invited Biden, and we
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keep saying no. I think we should absolutely join the bricks movement, and
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I think we should turn over a newly imperialism and one that looks favorably towards
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mutual sovereignty and mutual development and mutual economic cooperation. So again, in this
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area, you know, I see a lot of pessimism out there. So
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I see a lot of people arguing that, well, what she and Putin
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are doing is just the other side of the same coin. They're pushing central
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bank digital currency, they're pushing digital idea, they're pushing technocracy. It's really
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the same thing in another guy's I mean, what what would your responsibit to
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that. There's a few different examples I can find of the sovereignty of where
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China and Russia do respect sovereignty in different countries. For example, China has
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outlawed bitcoin, and I think cryptocurrency as a whole, I think all of
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cryptocurrency, but I know they've outlawed bitcoin. Then one of their main allies
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that they are giving a lot of money for development for is El Salvador.
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So you know that's that's that's those are that's where my roots are. You
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know, my parents are both Salvadorian. I was I was born in the
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but in Olsalvador. They give Al Salvador, you know, money to help
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them build highways and infrastructure, and I think recently they just unveiled their national
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library, which was helped built with some of the Chinese resources that was given
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to Olavodor. Olsalvador has a currency, their second official currency is bitcoin,
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other than the US dollar, so you know, and the Chinese still decide
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to help them. Right, It's the same thing with the African nations that
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the Chinese are helping develop. It's that, you know, the African nations
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run their government's completely different than how the Chinese wouldever run their governments too.
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But I think the ultimate expression of seeing how this mutual cooperation works. I
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can't remember which African country it was. I think it was Nigeria or Nigeria,
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and their economic minister said, you know, when the Chinese come and
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they talk of development, they give us power plants, they give us roads,
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and they give us this and that Americans come they give us lectures.
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So I think you know that right there goes to kind of address the fear
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that people may have about it being the other side of the coin. It's
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like, well, what's actually being produced and what's actually being done Bye bye
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bye by the Chinese and the Russians in Brazil. It's just mutual economic development.
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And I think the most important is a real respect of sovereignty because we've
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seen that. We don't see Chinese soldiers in these countries. We don't see
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the Chinese or Russians setting up military bases in these countries. We see them
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sending workers, we see them sending construction workers or you know, ministers people
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to advise these projects. That's what we see. We don't see war and
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death, no in date. But on the other hand, we see in
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North Africa, for example, or other places, we see Western influence attempting
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to disrupt what's going on there. So you know, we've got a wide
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ranging insurgency and any North African countries that's been going on for quite a long
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time, since well before the Chinese or the Russians ever got there, I
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suspect, but it's certainly something that we tend to see the fingers of the
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British or the Europeans, and certainly the European Union considers it's a hell to
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be its territory and is really very concerned about Russia and China's influence. There
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is the development that's happening there as a result of bricks enough to overcome the
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influence from Western governments that promotes insurgency. No, it's it's not enough.
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It's a good start, but it is not enough because the West, if
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it continues to exist in the motus apparandus that it does right now, is
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always going to try and do something dirty and sneaky to subterfuge what's actually going
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on with the development. I mean they're actively doing this, you know.
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I mean the CIA has topped with governments before, they've murdered people if they
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needed to, they have no problem doing those things. Again, what you
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have, what you need is I don't want the United States to collapse.
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I don't, but it's it's heading that way right and it's just becoming it's
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going to collapse under its own weight. You know. The country is just
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becoming poor and poor, but the richer getting richer. Yeah, that's that's
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obvious. But it's just not a sustainable model that the West has. I
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mean, we see this with the way in which NATO keeps throwing all this
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money to Ukraine and they're not getting the results they want and they all look
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like fools. And all the sanctions they throw at Russia only strengthens Russia.
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Right, so it's falling apart. It's going to collapse. And until that
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happens, or if there's a complete rescue and a retooling of the United States
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right where I come in and I say, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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we are not going to fall. We have to completely like turn everything inside
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out. We have to retool our military budget and our defense budget. We
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have to learn how to play friendly with other countries again. And we have
26:04
to see all of our all our espionage operations that are going on around the
26:10
country that are actively working to overthrow whatever governments are working with the Chinese and
26:15
Russians right now. Only until that happens, well, then the bricks be
26:21
enough to counteract the Western influence and then move beyond and probably accelerate even faster.
26:30
Okay, let's let's move on to a slightly different topic there then,
26:33
because of course you're running for Congress, But how much coverage are you getting
26:40
in the midstream media? This is completely retara. I know the answer to
26:45
this, I just want do that. Tell us, just tell us for
26:48
the sake of arguments. Oh, I don't even know if they know I'm
26:53
running, or if they do, they not nothing at all. You know,
26:59
I've had to rely on outlets like yours and Kim Iverson had me on.
27:03
Recently. I announced my congressional run on Jimmy Door's show, right,
27:08
I announced it on Jimmy Door, and then I was on Kim Iverson.
27:11
I was on due Dissidence. I mean, you know, everybody who's an
27:15
alternative media right now, not everybody, but people who are an alternative media.
27:18
What's interesting about this campaign is that like what what how? What is
27:25
where? It's a real test of potency to see, well, how potent
27:27
is alternative media? Right? You know, we keep saying that alternative media
27:32
is powerful, that it gets you know, people like Tucker and Joe Rogan
27:34
get way more views than you know, CNN or Fox News or whatever mainstream
27:40
outlets. Right so we're seeing call that will that be true? Is that
27:45
true? And how can that help influence my campaign and other independent campaigns around
27:52
the country, Because I'm not the only independent running for Congress. It's we
27:56
have a little network. You know, there's somebody down in Florida, there's
27:59
somebody on the West Coast who's running. They're all independent, all different people,
28:03
and we're all relying on the same alternative media. So you know,
28:07
I don't know, it's it's going to be interesting to see how does alternative
28:11
media play a role in this upcoming election, and we'll see what happens.
28:18
I think that I think no mainstream media coverage. No, no, well
28:22
yeah, I didn't expect it would be. But but but at least they're
28:25
I mean, you know, what you're saying, I presume is complete silence.
28:27
So they're not attacking it because they don't want to give you any exposure
28:30
to ticket. That is the case. Yeah, well that's right. I
28:34
mean if Richie Torres came out tomorrow and said there's some idiot in my district
28:37
who thinks he can take me on, I mean, people would just support
28:41
me just on that basis alone, because like, oh, no, Richie
28:44
Torres doesn't like this guy. Well I like that guy, right, so
28:45
if he did that, that would be like a death sentence to him.
28:48
But so yeah, no, yeah, but coming back to the alternative media
28:52
question, because that's that's a very interesting point you make. I think the
28:56
difficulty that that we have as alternative media is that we don't have the infrastructure.
29:02
So you know, mainstream media they have their own printing presses, or
29:06
they have their own broadcast transmitters or whatever they have. You know, they
29:10
have this infrastructure. We are reliant on the platforms. Now in the UK
29:15
and in the EU in particular, we are now subject to online safety online
29:22
harms legislation. In the United States. You're still to some degree protected by
29:29
your constitutional right to free speech. But then we have in the US the
29:33
so called Kids Online Safety Act starting to make an appearance and work its way
29:37
through Congress and the Senate. So so what is it. How restrictive are
29:45
the platforms to getting to alternative media getting the message out? Well, yeah,
29:53
I mean, you know, you're you're completely right about that. And
29:56
I think I'm being There's something happening with my Twitter account because every time I
30:02
get a follower, I lose a follower or something. And so I look
30:04
at my notifications and I see like, oh, two hundred new people followed
30:07
me today. But then I look at my follower account it's still the same,
30:11
right, And you know. I mean, that's just one specific platform
30:15
that's x or formally known as Twitter, and I think that's been happening ever
30:18
since Elon Musk went and visited Israel and hung out with that Yahoo you know,
30:22
because my account and other Progaza accounts, pro Palestine accounts have been seeing
30:27
the same kind of you know, restriction and censorship. So yes, in
30:33
one sense, you are restricted, But that's kind of the appeal because people
30:40
know mainstream media is bullshit and they are looking for some kind of underground like
30:45
way of getting their information and their news and staying up date. Like people
30:52
like the appeal that like whoa like, Yeah, these guys don't have that
30:55
infrastructure, and they're probably even being censored on places like YouTube, Meta and
31:00
now Twitter, like you know, Rumble thankfully. I mean I haven't seen
31:04
any kind of like, I haven't seen any kind of not that I know
31:10
of any kind of censorship or any kind of like way of taking people down
31:14
on these platforms on Rumble, but hopefully hopefully it stays that way. Hopefully
31:22
it will continue to be that way on Rumble. But I do think there
31:25
is this kind of appeal that people have to the alternative media platforms that make
31:32
your voice louder than you would think possible, because every time Joe Rogan says
31:37
something, there's like what five six seven articles denouncing whatever thing he said,
31:41
right, And when people see that the mainstream media is reacting that way to
31:45
something said on alternative media, they're only going to flock more and more to
31:48
alternative media because they know, like, Okay, there's something that I'm not
31:52
supposed to know or say. So yes, I think the fact that we
31:56
are being censored and silence and we have to go on alternative platforms in order
32:00
to get our voice out there. That's our strongest asset. It's like what
32:04
they call the Strissand effect. I don't know why it's called the Strisand effect,
32:07
but like the more you try to keep something quiet, the louder it
32:10
becomes and the more it resonates. Let's come back to the Middle East,
32:14
because you're talking about your exicon being perceived as a pro Palestine account. But
32:21
let's just talk about the Middle East. Just give us your thoughts on what's
32:24
going on there at the moment and what the potential solutions might be. Jesus,
32:30
Mike, you got me speaking like a pundit over here on CNN or
32:34
something. You know, what's your take on the Middle East. It's like,
32:37
where do I start? I don't know? All right, Okay,
32:40
Wow, there is as prow as stated by the International Court of Justice,
32:47
there is probable cause that the Israelis are committing an act of genocide. And
32:52
I think what yesterday or so, they were supposed to have their one month
32:57
report as to how they were going to comply with what's going on, how
33:00
they were going to comply with the rules that the i c J has saying
33:04
that they have to make sure he gets delivered and they can't keep killing civilians,
33:07
which they have not done at all. They have not fulfilled any single
33:09
one of their promises. I think the situation looks bleak. The situation just
33:15
looks bleak over in the Middle East. I mean, you know, we're
33:19
talking about Israel, God Israels just basically having a heyday. Like no matter
33:25
how much yelling and screaming people are doing, they just don't seem to care.
33:30
They don't seem to be relenting at all. And yeah, things are
33:34
bad, Mike in the Middle East, right right, Okay, But but
33:37
but what I'm getting at and there's a couple of things of getting out.
33:39
The first is, of course, the reason that they're the reason that they
33:43
are doing this with impunity and with such confidence is because no matter what Joe
33:47
Biden might say in public or Richie Sinak might say in public, there's an
33:53
implicit support for everything that they're doing. And that seems to be That seems
33:59
to be one point. But but what I was actually hoping you were going
34:00
to get to was was what what the answers might be, what the solutions
34:05
might be, because I believe that I believe you guys have a plan alu
34:13
Alia. Oh my god, I'm sorry I finished that. I am an
34:15
unorthodox candidate, you know I am. I call it as I see it,
34:20
you know, I yes, the Oasis plan is are no, Yes,
34:28
we actually do have a solution apart from just a ceasefire. I mean,
34:31
yes, you need a ceasefire, absolutely, But uh uh, what
34:37
comes after is kind of the question that is floating around in people's heads.
34:42
And I've had an interesting discussion with some of my my supporters and followers.
34:45
One one person in particular, she came up with this idea of like a
34:51
Marshall's Plan style of reconstruction. Good idea. But what the Laruche Organization and
34:55
the Schiller Rent do have closed is an oasis plan. This is what be
35:00
called the Oasis plan, mutual development for all parties in the region. This
35:04
isn't just Israel and Gaza and Palestine. This is Israel, Palestine, this
35:07
is Lebanon, this is Syria, this is Egypt. Right. You need
35:10
to have clean water in the region. You need to have infrastructure in the
35:15
region, because that is the basis for a sustainable lasting piece. You know,
35:19
the failure of the Oslo Cords was not that they happened or that they
35:22
weren't gonna work. It was that you didn't have like shovels in the ground
35:25
the next day, right, You didn't have development happening the next day.
35:30
Right. So right now it's obvious what needs to happen. Two million people
35:34
have been displaced from Gaza, and the population of Gaza is two million people.
35:38
You need immediate, immediate reconstruction of the place. You need to rebuild
35:44
those buildings and probably build them back up stronger. You need to bring in
35:46
nuclear capabilities just to desalinate water so you can get fresh water in there as
35:52
quick as possible, and you need aid. You just need to. You
35:55
know, the way that Gaza is being bombarded with missiles right now is the
35:59
same way to be bombarded with aid, Okay, with health supplies, with
36:02
food, with water, with supplies. Really begin to rebuild the region,
36:07
develop it, build rail around the country that connects between all the countries there,
36:13
build roads and have people live a sustainable life, because the problem with
36:19
just a sea spire is that it's like being rescued in the middle of the
36:22
ocean. Right You're drowning in the middle of the ocean. Then the national
36:24
card that comes, they rescue you. Great. That doesn't guarantee your survival
36:30
for the next twenty years though, right, that doesn't guarantee that you'll live
36:35
a happy, happy, healthy life just because you were rescued. Once,
36:37
you know, the Oslo Chords happened, there was peace, there was optimism,
36:42
and then Rabine and Arafat were killed, assassinated because of those Because of
36:49
those accords, you need development. You need to completely redevelop those all the
36:55
countries in the Middle East to make sure that there can never be a conflict
37:00
again. You know, there was something that like there's a narrative I was
37:05
reading that there's like a a seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
37:08
twelve year old boy who has never stepped outside of guys, who only
37:13
sees walls and Israeli soldiers. That's his life. What a horrible way to
37:17
live that that is all that young man sees, or that young boy sees
37:22
just soldiers, weapons and walls, starvation, famine, abuse and racism every
37:30
day. That is a horrible way to live. And so a ceasefire does
37:34
not address that at all, although you need it. Again, I'm not
37:37
saying we don't need a cease fighter. Absolutely need a ceasefire. And they
37:40
think this is something that the UN and the International Court of Justice is going
37:44
to have tom going to have to really, really really you know, buckle
37:50
down and say, yeah, we need to redevelop the region and we need
37:53
to do something other than just making sure there's no more fighting. The way
37:58
to prevent fighting is developed. And that's that's why I endorsed the Oasis Plan,
38:02
and I think that's the answer to the The man who burned himself alive,
38:07
yes, say, you know he was. He felt as if there's
38:09
no more recourse and there's no more solution to what's going on. So he
38:13
just decided to burn himself alive. We have to be the living alternative to
38:16
that. We have to say, no, there there is a solution.
38:20
No one else has to burn themselves alives anymore. There is a solution for
38:23
development and lasting peace in the region. And you know, I yeah,
38:30
we should. We should do that in that guy's name, because he committed
38:32
he instead of giving his life to his country that was committing genocide, he
38:37
gave us life to raise awareness of the cause of a real of a real
38:40
genocide happening. And you know, and what what happened as a result of
38:45
that is that CNN read out loud his last words. You know, so
38:52
on mainstream media they were forced to admit that, yeah, okay, there
38:54
might be a genocide or this person believed there was a genocide going on.
38:58
I mean, what does that do to the people will only watch mainstream media?
39:02
It completely changes them. So now we need to take it a step
39:07
further and make sure there never has to be a reason for anyone to burn
39:10
themselves alive anymore. Okay, So then coming back to New York, New
39:17
York has I've been to New York a number of times. I really liked
39:22
New York when I was there, but that that was quite a long time
39:27
ago. That was, you know, twenty twenty four years years ago,
39:30
twenty five years ago, something like that. Different place. It has changed
39:36
a lot in that time. And one of the things that has absolutely happened
39:39
is that rents have gone through the roof. Now you're from the Bronx,
39:45
but in the broader New York. I do wonder how people live there at
39:51
the moment. Another one of that, how do I even beget I'll give
39:53
you a good'll give you a good story. I'll give you a very good
39:57
story. Twenty twenty two, I'm auditioning for Dying and Saya to get her
40:00
on the ballot, and I am in Haarlem, which is in the middle
40:02
of New York City. I met specifically. I'm at one hundred and twenty
40:07
fifth Street and Lenox Avenue and there's a whole foods there and the place has
40:12
become gentrified now. And so there I am in this neighborhood. I'm getting
40:16
signatures from people, you know, to get Diane on the ballot. And
40:20
then I see a man maybe he was like in his early thirties, late
40:23
twenties. He's folded over literally like folded over because he's he's high on probably
40:29
fentanyl or something. And then there's a man to his right recording him with
40:32
his phone. So I'm just watching this unfold and then the guy finishes recording.
40:37
The guy comes over to me, who's recording on his phone, and
40:40
he says, to me, excuse me, I really don't know how these
40:43
phones work, but can you help me send this video to my son because
40:49
I want to show him what his brother is up to so he doesn't end
40:52
up like his brother. And so I was like shocked, right, because
40:58
this is you see this every day there are people will fold it over,
41:00
and like every other corner in New York City, in Manhattan, they are
41:06
like this every day. And so the young this this guy, I help
41:08
him send the video to his son. He says thank you, and then
41:12
he grabs his other son and he says, come on. And the guy
41:15
who's folded over, his head is still down, he's still folded over,
41:20
his hand is sticking up, you know, and his dad is like basically
41:22
dragging him home and they're walking step by step. And I had to I
41:29
could not petition that day anymore. I had to just stop and I just
41:31
broke down crying because this is the reality for thousands of families that live here
41:37
in New York City. The rent, yeah, high rent. Yeah,
41:42
that's just one of many problems. The drug overdoses is another kind of problem.
41:46
The poverty is the third kind of problem. Right. I haven't even
41:51
talked about immigration yet, not even the influx of immigrants that have come in.
41:53
New York City was a disaster before the immigrants came in, And now
41:59
that you have this influx of immigrants, you have no space for them,
42:01
you have no housing for them, and they are living in like the most
42:05
squalid of squalid conditions. I don't know why people think that they're living.
42:08
Oh well, they're in these five star hotels. Have you actually like people?
42:14
They don't get the service. They don't get the hotel service. You
42:16
know, they don't get the food. There's like six seven eight people packed
42:20
into like a two bed hotel room. You know, they're not living rosy
42:24
lives, you know. So the immigrants are not the problem here in New
42:29
York City. The problem is that New York City has shut down factories,
42:32
it's shut down its productive centers. They don't care about the infrastructure anymore.
42:37
You know, ceilings collapse like every other day here in the Brox the other
42:40
day actually, and I'm working on a report on this. At the beginning
42:43
of my campaign, there was shit water that came in. I live on
42:46
the second floor. On the third floor, a toilet overflowed, supposedly supposedly
42:52
a toilet overflowed, and all that water leaked into my apartment. This was
42:58
in the beginning of my campaign, was only like two weeks ago, two
43:00
three weeks ago, and the super came and was like, yeah, the
43:05
best I could do is put some buckets down, I guess, and you're
43:07
just gonna have to write it out. And then I got sick. I
43:09
got neurovirus from that because apparently it was fecal water, and I was so
43:15
pissed off, Like I went on Twitter and I was like recording myself and
43:20
then I deleted it afterwards because I got too emotional. But I'm telling this
43:24
story about what happened to me personally, not because I want sympathy or pity,
43:28
but because this is the reality of thousands of people who live in the
43:31
Bronx or Brooklyn or Manhattan or Queens or Stanton Island, like that is the
43:36
reality of living in New York City. Okay, this place sucks, and
43:40
like, you know, it's like, oh, but o hey, you're
43:44
running for Congress. You can't say talk bad about your district. No,
43:46
I can't because it's the truth. Okay, the district is horrible. Okay,
43:51
there's just poverty everywhere. It's all falling apart. But the worst part
43:54
is nobody gives a shit. None of these politicians actually care about these people
43:59
like I do. But he actually loves these people. Okay, you just
44:01
get him for a vote, they get them for donations, and then they
44:04
say, see it's Chorea. You know, it's horrible. It's horrible.
44:07
I'm fed up with it and I'm tired. And that's the reality of living
44:10
in New York. Sorry if I went off there, No, that's absolutely
44:15
fine because you know, many people that live in London would would probably have
44:19
some sympathy with that. I don't think London's anywhere near as bad, but
44:22
I've I've been quite shocked about the way that New York has gone in the
44:27
last twenty twenty five years. You're standing for Congress, When is that when
44:30
is the actual vote? Is that going to be in November alongside the presidential
44:35
vote, or is there some other some other election day. Most certainly I
44:37
believe election day is November extra Tuesday, November fifth, Yep, November fifth.
44:46
It's on my friend's birthday. Yeah, November fifth. That's that's it's
44:50
the same thing as the presidential right, So when people go vote for you
44:52
know, either a shot of poison or a gunshot to the head or a
44:55
state, you can also vote for me too. But right, okay,
45:00
okay, So you've got six or seven months or whatever that is, and
45:06
so what's the plan for the next the next period? How are you going
45:08
to rap this campaign up? Okay? So yeah, I mean apart from
45:14
the national coverage and the net are now international coverage because you're from the UK
45:17
and UK column. But we started a campaign which is that like my opponent
45:22
has what four million dollars in his chest right now, which you can roll
45:25
over money for previous campaign's completely funded by special interest groups like IPACK, the
45:30
American Israeli Political Action Committee that has donated five hundred thousand dollars his campaign.
45:37
He's you know, I'm out resourced. But at the same time, we
45:43
have a we have a tool which is that me being from here and having
45:46
studied the principles of street art, we are starting an initiative where we are
45:52
going to poster and plaster stickers and signage everywhere in the Bronx. Now,
45:57
I don't even care if it's in the district or not in the This is
46:00
a Bronx campaign. I don't you know. I'm currently somewhere not in my
46:04
district, in the Bronx, but I'm on the line of it, and
46:07
I I the entire Bronx needs to be inundated, flooded. Every McDonald's bathroom,
46:12
every bar bathroom has to have a sticker on it that says the Truth
46:15
devies Silence. And then it's this this great poster. I guess this is
46:19
a recording. I'll send the image that you can put it over here now,
46:22
but it's this image of me being dragged out of Yeah. Actually,
46:28
actually, could you get me one of my flyers that's by the door?
46:31
Yeah, sorry, one of my my boss is about to get one of
46:34
my my flyers here. This we're professional here by the way, you know,
46:37
as you can tell, this is like a high brown campaign. Thank
46:40
you, this one here, So the truth devised Silence vot Jose Vega.
46:45
And then it's this wonderful image that one of my supporters made and we have
46:50
stickers of it. We have stickers of this. We've started putting them up
46:52
in lampposts, bathrooms, and we're just going to do that between now and
46:58
April because then petitioning starts, and I need to get thirty five hundred signatures,
47:01
at minimum thirty five hundred ballot signatures, which means minimally seven thousand,
47:07
ideally ten thousand, five hundred signatures. That's what we need to get in
47:12
order for me to actually be on the so that people actually can vote for
47:15
me. And uh, but yeah, this image has to be everywhere flooded
47:21
in the Bronx. That's right. And I mean some people may say that
47:23
that's that's a pretty tall order, but but you know, a similar effort
47:27
was done for Diane to run for Senate and she succeeded despite all the roadblocks
47:31
that were being put in her in her way last year. So you should
47:36
be able to do that. At least I hope you're able to do that.
47:39
Oh well, we'll see, we'll see. I mean, if someone
47:42
shoots me, then maybe it'll be impossible. But you know, sorry,
47:47
now I'm getting to Lucy Gucy here. Now you've you've you've unleashed me,
47:53
you provoked me. I should probably calm down of it. But yes,
47:59
no, And also the great thing about the petitioning is that because Diane's running
48:02
again, of course she's running against Kristin Jellebram, hopefully my signatures will be
48:07
able to pool together, will count towards her total too, because we're both
48:12
running on the same Blaruche line. So we're still working that out. But
48:15
basically, like if I were to get ten thousand signatures, that will hopefully
48:20
count towards her pool of what she needs, which is another ninety thousand signatures.
48:23
So yeah, so what she needs one hundred thousand signatures in total.
48:30
Well last time she needed forty five thousand signatures and we ended up with like
48:35
sixty eight sixty nine thousand signatures, And that was because we were able to
48:38
get away with that because we had excellent clerking. Like in other words,
48:42
like we were throwing signatures out that weren't valid, Like we didn't want to
48:45
give anybody a reason to think that our signatures weren't valid because we were self
48:49
clerking, Like we were thinking, like what if somebody were to challenge each
48:52
of these signatures, would they be valid. That's what we were doing.
48:55
And now we suspect they're not gonna. They're gonna they're going to throw everything
49:00
at us. So we need to make sure that not only do we far
49:05
exceed double ninety thousand, we want to go for probably triple, you know,
49:09
one hundred and thirty thousand signatures. We can do that and you know,
49:15
really establish our presence in New York, but also give a message to
49:20
the establishment. We're not here to play. We're here to actually get something
49:24
going, get something done. Yeah, then yeah, no, okay,
49:28
So if you're needing yeah, if you're needing ten thousand signatures and you're looking
49:32
for one hundred and thirty for her, what's the size of the district.
49:36
So give me an idea of what sort of scale, what proportion of people
49:39
you need to encourage to sign Yeah, the Bronx itself is a six point
49:45
eight square miles. It's a tiny burrow, and there are about eight hundred
49:49
thousand voters here just from the Bronx alone. Diane can get signatures anywhere in
49:53
the state, in all of New York State. But you know, and
49:58
so I only need ten thousand and people to sign who are voters, who
50:01
are eligible voters to sign my petition in the bronx she and then those same
50:07
ten thousand people can also sign for her because you know they're eligible voters.
50:14
Would you expect those ten thousand people then to vote for you? Or is
50:16
that another requirement? No, that's not a requirement. That's not a requirement.
50:21
Like we last year, we had people like who are Chuck Schumer supporters?
50:25
And they would come up to our you know, see that we were
50:30
running against Chuck Schumer and they would see we were running against Chuck Schumer and
50:34
they'd say, who, I support Chuck Schumer. And we would say,
50:37
hey, you don't have to vote for us, but don't you think he
50:39
deserves a challenge? And like, okay, all right, I'll sign your
50:42
ballot sure, and you know, democracy right. So other other Chuck Schumer
50:47
supporters were not so so friendly. They were like, you should not be
50:52
on the ballot. You're crazy, You're kooky. How dare you think you
50:53
could go against Chuck? But some of them were a little more reasonable.
50:58
Yeah, okay, well, look, hose, I'm going to say,
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let's leave it there for now. We started off with the video clip.
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Let's end with a question about that video clip when you were dragged out of
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the hole. What what did they actually do to you that day? That
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day? You know that was the one that took Oh yeah, because the
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guy. First of all, I was dropped to the ground, and then
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and then I was bear hugged by the Dean of Columbia School of Journalism.
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I was bear hugged and I was dragged by the Columbia Dean School of Journalism,
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which I found out later is illegal because he's not supposed to put his
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hands on me. And then I was bear hugged out, I was taken
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down the elevator, and then I was just told get the hell out of
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here right now before we call the police. They called the police. I
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wasn't gonna care, but I left, you know it, I just left.
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And you know that's that's ultimately, like, that's the big fear that
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people have. It's like, what's going to happen to me through I intervene?
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Not a lot actually, I mean, at least in New York City.
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I can only speak for my experiences. I've never been arrested. I
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never been put in handcuffs. I've been quote unquote detained once, but they
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didn't even bother putting handcuffs on me, and they let me go immediately after.
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I said, I was just practicing my right to free speech. And
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that's it. You don't have to give your ID, you don't have to
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say anything, you don't have to tell them anything. You just say,
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I'm practicing my right for free speech. Let me go, let me go,
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and as long as you didn't do anything stupid, like be violent or
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something, you're free to go. Yeah, yeah, okay. Well,
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look, Jose, thank you very much for joining us today. Thank you,
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thank you,