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Steve Price | 5 September · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to Friday Night's Steve Price with you on
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  Speaker 2: a very sad day right around Australia as we say
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  Speaker 2: farewell to a Victorian police officer, Senior Constable Vadim de
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  Speaker 2: wi Hotta, shot dead during his job emotional scenes at
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  Speaker 2: the Police Academy, while his alleged killer, Dessie Freeman remains
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  Speaker 2: at large. We'll have more on that shortly coming up
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  Speaker 2: on the program tonight. The arrogance of a former Victorian Premier,
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews, turning up in China, mingling with despots while
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  Speaker 2: living off a taxpayer funded pension of somewhere near four
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars tax free a year. The Opposition's David
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  Speaker 2: Southwick will be in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly, also tonight.
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  Speaker 2: While local councils jack up rates and charge more for
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  Speaker 2: basics like rubbish removal, they're elected officials see nothing of
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  Speaker 2: taking multiple overseas junkets and shoveling out money.
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  Speaker 1: To useless causes.
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  Speaker 2: Local government watchdog boss Dean Hurlston in the studio as
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  Speaker 2: well tonight. Plus the shocking audio obtained by nine News
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  Speaker 2: last night exclusively of the moment a Virgin pilot flying
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  Speaker 2: between New Zealand and Australia is told by a Chinese
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  Speaker 2: warship that they are firing live missiles in the area,
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  Speaker 2: and the Prime minister says, well, there's nothing to see here,
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  Speaker 2: but first you can't measure the anger, frustration, and utter
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  Speaker 2: contempt for former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews and his arrogant
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  Speaker 2: appearance at a military parade in Beijing this week, posing
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  Speaker 2: for happy snaps with, among others, Vladimir Putin and China's
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  Speaker 2: President g plus various other international despots and dictators. Andrews,
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  Speaker 2: in typical style, released some sort of a merely mouth justification.
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  Speaker 2: He dragged for some reason in former New Zealand prime
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  Speaker 2: ministers and a Malaysian political figure to somehow explain away
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  Speaker 2: why he was there, how he and not them appeared
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  Speaker 2: in what is, in reality a photographic snapshot of the
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  Speaker 2: most terrible people in the world that should not be
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  Speaker 2: mixing with the man who locked up a capital city
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  Speaker 2: longer than any other in the world during COVID and
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  Speaker 2: wasted billions of dollars, tearing up a road contract and
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  Speaker 2: canceling the Commonwealth Games while contributing to the biggest state
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  Speaker 2: debt in the nation, Australia's worst crime crisis, and the
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  Speaker 2: collapse of business confidence while overseeing the decline of the
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  Speaker 2: status of Melbourne. Now has the hide to say he
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  Speaker 2: is quote deeply honored to be there in China. As
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  Speaker 2: a columnist for The Australian and former herald Son editor
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  Speaker 2: Damon Johnson wrote for the Australian newspaper Today, a Dan
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  Speaker 2: loyalist summed him up by saying, quote, mate Andrews doesn't
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  Speaker 2: given if what you guys think, what any journo thinks.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't given f what anyone thinks. He's out there
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  Speaker 2: making millions and having a great life.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much of anything Andrew's makes from
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  Speaker 2: his China connections, but what I do care about is
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  Speaker 2: he is being paid a pension by the people whose
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  Speaker 2: lives in many cases he contributed to ruining, making them
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  Speaker 2: badly destroyed. During the hysterical and narcissistic time he served
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  Speaker 2: as Premier, especially during COVID, he locked children out of
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  Speaker 2: schools and playgrounds. He introduced a completely useless overnight curfew.
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  Speaker 2: Bannsport told people working as solo lawnmowers they had to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Then he bungled age Care security and then simply uped
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  Speaker 2: and walked away. What I also cared deeply about is
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  Speaker 2: the pathetic responses from his fellow socialist left travelers in
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi and his successor just sent to Allen he
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  Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister in question time yesterday when asked
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  Speaker 2: about his old flatmate Dan Andrews.
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  Speaker 3: My position is very very clear, which is we did
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  Speaker 3: not send any government representative because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: None of my team would have sat in that position
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  Speaker 3: as simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't ask a question, Okay, so you wouldn't have gone.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't send anyone alive and Andrews didn't. We don't
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  Speaker 2: think seek your endorsement or permission. But what about saying
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  Speaker 2: the bloke showed an appalling lack of judgment standing with
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  Speaker 2: deadly despots on a stage in China to enhance his
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  Speaker 2: business prospects. What a weak response that was from a
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  Speaker 2: week prime minister. Then we have Premier Allen. I mean
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  Speaker 2: she's worse probably she said quote it is good for
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  Speaker 2: Victoria that Daniel Andrews is held in such high regard
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  Speaker 2: by the people of China. Victoria's an old friend of China,
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  Speaker 2: and these connections are so valuable for our state.
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  Speaker 1: End of quote.
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  Speaker 2: Good for Victoria. What signing up to the Chinese Belton
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  Speaker 2: Road program? Whatever that meant? Forcing Camba then to step
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  Speaker 2: in and say no, you can't do that, she called
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  Speaker 2: him an old friend of China. Please just sin he
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  Speaker 2: show some courage. The bloke was on a stage with
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  Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, who was currently running an invasion of Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: where tens of thousands of men, women and children have
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  Speaker 2: been killed, murdered, burnt to death. I mean, geez, come on,
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  Speaker 2: are you a serious political leader or a puppet of
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  Speaker 2: your former boss? Do you not realize how despised he
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  Speaker 2: is and that endorsing this China visit you will be
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  Speaker 2: seen as much as bad as him. Then we had
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  Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Penny Wong. She was out speaking today in
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  Speaker 2: Japan and when asked by Sky News what she thought
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  Speaker 2: about the disgraceful decision by Andrews to take part in
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  Speaker 2: that photo, we got this and.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously I speak for Australian and for the Australian government.
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  Speaker 4: I don't speak for private individuals, but I would so
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  Speaker 4: hope that we all should be mindful of the message
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  Speaker 4: that our presents and engagement sends pathetic.
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  Speaker 2: Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, I don't comment on private individuals.
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  Speaker 2: You're the Foreign minister. You've got an Australian and a
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  Speaker 2: former premier someone would steal some political influence wandering around
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  Speaker 2: Beijing shaking hands with murderers and despots, and you say
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  Speaker 2: you don't comment on private individuals. I mean Dan Andrews
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  Speaker 2: and Premier Allen have overseen the decline of a once
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  Speaker 2: great state that is now a crime ridden basket case,
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  Speaker 2: an economic failure and a socially unsafe place to live.
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  Speaker 2: They're federal factional supporters like the Prime Minister in Wong
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  Speaker 2: refuse to even be critical of what that.
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  Speaker 1: Pair have done.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to you all. Joining me now is Victoria Shadow
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  Speaker 2: Police spokesman David Southwick Daniel Andrews parents at that military parade.
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  Speaker 2: I guess my views are pretty clear.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think if you couldn't make this stuff up?
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  Speaker 5: I mean when I first saw that image, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was AI generated and not the real thing, and
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  Speaker 5: only the Victorian Labour Party would think this is okay.
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  Speaker 5: It's a disgrace, particularly with what Victorians are going through.
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  Speaker 5: At the moment. The fact that here is a bloke
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  Speaker 5: that has lived off the taxpayer, had a great job,
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  Speaker 5: thanks for the taxpayer, and now giving the bird to
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  Speaker 5: every Victorian taxpayer to go out and say that this
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  Speaker 5: is okay. This is absolutely appalling. And the fact that
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  Speaker 5: we have the premier saying it's good for Victoria. At
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  Speaker 5: what part is this good for Victoria. We've got a
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  Speaker 5: Ukrainian community that are really hurting at the moment here
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  Speaker 5: in Victoria. But Cinda Ellen says that's okay, that he
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  Speaker 5: stands alongside dictators, and even Bob Carr didn't think it
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  Speaker 5: was okay. This is a premier that he's out of touch,
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  Speaker 5: a former premier that he's out of touch, and of
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  Speaker 5: course again and Victorians are just all left wondering.
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  Speaker 2: The Premier herself is going to go to China. She's
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  Speaker 2: now she's going to visit there. I mean, is she
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  Speaker 2: somehow organized Dan to be her frontman and set things
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  Speaker 2: up for her so that she can have a comeback
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  Speaker 2: and make some major announcement about how Victoria is going
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  Speaker 2: to benefit from our relationship with China.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really, well, who knows.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's lots of questions here, where is the
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  Speaker 5: security advice in terms of Andrew's going, who paid, what's
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  Speaker 5: the benefit and ultimately is a very important trading partner
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  Speaker 5: for us. But we've got to make sure we do
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  Speaker 5: these things properly. And what we've just seen is absolutely inappropriate.
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  Speaker 5: And there's lots of unanswered questions that I think all
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  Speaker 5: Victorians and all Australians should have the right.
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  Speaker 2: To state labor try and talk about the opposition and
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  Speaker 2: how you're divided on things. You've got Ben Carroll the
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  Speaker 2: Deputy Premier today, he's come out and bagged Andrews proposing
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  Speaker 2: with those dictators but not Alan, so there's obviously a
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  Speaker 2: split between the Premiere and a deputy.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Ben Carroll called it right, and I think most
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  Speaker 5: people have called it right. It is a bad judgment
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  Speaker 5: call at best from Daniel Andrews. But Cinderellen says it's
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  Speaker 5: good for Victoria. Well, I think we know who was
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  Speaker 5: right and who was wrong, and Ben Carroll's doing the
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  Speaker 5: right thing. To Cinderellen is a weak premire, a gutless
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  Speaker 5: premier that is not calling the hard calls, making the
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  Speaker 5: hard judgment calls. She calls out hate. But this is
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  Speaker 5: a person standing alongside hateful dictators, that's just not okay.
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  Speaker 1: Can the spit turning point?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so I've struggled to get Victorians
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  Speaker 2: to realize that they've got a bad government, one that's
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  Speaker 2: sending them broken overseeing a crime crisis, but something like
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  Speaker 2: this can almost be that point where people go, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's it, We've had it with this mom. Victorians are
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  Speaker 2: desperate for good leadership. Cinderellan doesn't have any great If
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  Speaker 2: Ben Carroll stands up and wants to challenge her.
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  Speaker 1: So be it.
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  Speaker 5: But every day we go past and we have this
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  Speaker 5: kind of behavior, Victorians are the ones are tougher.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Victoria, we've been named the carthif capital
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  Speaker 2: of Australia. Insurance boss went out there and said, well,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to go and buy a steering wheel clock.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, what a jake we have not We've
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  Speaker 2: really genuinely got a crime crisis. I met was playing
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  Speaker 2: golf with the mate of mine yesterday and we heard
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  Speaker 2: about Mick Moldhouse who defended himself with an iron bar
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  Speaker 2: and we're not inverging people to go and do that.
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  Speaker 2: But my mate said, I've got a fire extinguishing a
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  Speaker 2: hacks on next to my bed. Why Victorians having to
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  Speaker 2: live like this.
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  Speaker 1: Every forty minutes?
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  Speaker 5: Back on the car thing, you see a car stole
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  Speaker 5: in Victoria one hundred percent and four hundred percent, And
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  Speaker 5: what that means is everybody's premiums goes up as a
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  Speaker 5: result of that. People left traumatized. And what you saw
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  Speaker 5: with Mick Moldtouse, what you're seeing with car theft is
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  Speaker 5: these brazen car thieves, these youth gangs, the home invasions.
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  Speaker 5: They don't care whether you're home or not. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: in many instances, they want you to be home because
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  Speaker 5: they can steal more. And what do we get from
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  Speaker 5: a government no consequences and no laws. It's a lawless
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  Speaker 5: state and we've got to see a change. Mick Moltouse
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't have to take the law into his own hands,
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  Speaker 5: but that's what this state has become.
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  Speaker 2: People are stealing cars with kids in the back, four
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  Speaker 2: year olds.
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  Speaker 5: I'm jumping them down the road. I mean, it is
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  Speaker 5: you couldn't make it up. I mean it's unbelievable. But
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  Speaker 5: what I'm really worried about is when is somebody ultimately
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  Speaker 5: going to get to a situation where they lose their
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  Speaker 5: life because they're defending their homes and their families. And
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  Speaker 5: that's not far off. You're seeing a government that doesn't
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  Speaker 5: care about anything. We've just got this machete band going
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  Speaker 5: on at the moment, thirteen thirteen million dollars for machete
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  Speaker 5: is being handed in. That's not fixing anything. The government's
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  Speaker 5: just out of that way work.
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  Speaker 2: Late breaking news this afternoon. The Victorian Treasurer at Jacqueline Simes.
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  Speaker 2: It's been reported now that she spent seventy thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: of taxpayers money on a ten day New York trip.
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  Speaker 2: She went over to beg the rating agency's not the
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  Speaker 2: down grade Victoria's debt rating.
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  Speaker 1: That's an extraordinary.
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  Speaker 2: Amount of money, over forty thousand dollars on air fix.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she's could have saved a whole lot of money
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  Speaker 5: with a zoom call. And I don't think that's sending
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  Speaker 5: a message at all, going out there with a begging
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  Speaker 5: bol saying Victoria needs needs the support. Oh you're flying
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  Speaker 5: busy business cars seven thousand dollars a day on the
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  Speaker 5: taxpayer twenty million dollars a day just to pay the
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  Speaker 5: interest on our debt. Victoria is broke, and we've got
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  Speaker 5: a treasurer that's living up like there's no tomorrow and
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  Speaker 5: we're all paying for this again. I mean, it's no
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  Speaker 5: wonder we're in the mess that we're in a government
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  Speaker 5: that has no idea, takes Victoria for granted and takes
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  Speaker 5: Victorian's money along with it.
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  Speaker 2: Great to see you as all to see he's David
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  Speaker 2: Southwick there. Now, let's bring in our Friday Night regular
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  Speaker 2: Former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman Campbell Prime Ministers yet to
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  Speaker 2: have a face to face with Donald Trump, but he's
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  Speaker 2: now had another phone call with him. According to the PM,
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  Speaker 2: it was quote warm and constructive and they discussed trade
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  Speaker 2: and economic relationships and all of that stuff. But interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: the White House has yet to release any details of
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  Speaker 2: the chat.
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  Speaker 1: That seems a little bit odd to me.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it does seem a bit odd, and we really
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  Speaker 6: haven't heard what they took from that conversation.
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  Speaker 7: But on the flip side, though, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting that it's happened just now, I mean, the last
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  Speaker 6: few days actually, I hate to say this, have shown
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  Speaker 6: the downside of many of the things that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 6: as president has been implementing, where he and many commentators
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  Speaker 6: have said this, We've seen the Indians pushed into this
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  Speaker 6: spectacle in Beijing, the idea of Urendra Modi burning there
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  Speaker 6: for that big parade. Let's remember the Chinese and the Indians,
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  Speaker 6: even in the last few years, have literally come to
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  Speaker 6: violent clashes on the disputed parts of the border between
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  Speaker 6: the two countries. And yet there's mister Moody at a
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  Speaker 6: military parade. And really, I think it's quite pertinent to
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  Speaker 6: observe that's happened because of what the US have been
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  Speaker 6: doing and Donald Trump's been doing. So perhaps the Americans
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  Speaker 6: are waking up that they need to be working hard
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  Speaker 6: to maintain the friendships and alliances that they actually have,
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  Speaker 6: and that maybe is why that call has taken place.
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  Speaker 2: Well on that, I mean, I don't know if this
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  Speaker 2: is coincidence or not, but President Trump's going to sign
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  Speaker 2: an executive order apparently Campbell, to rebround the Department of Defense,
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  Speaker 2: rebrand the Department of Defense as the Department of War.
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  Speaker 2: Here he was talking about how that change will take place.
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  Speaker 1: Department of Defense.
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  Speaker 6: We won the World War one, World War two, it
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  Speaker 6: was called the Department of War, and to be that's
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  Speaker 6: really what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Its defense is a part of that.
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  Speaker 7: But I have a feeling we're going to be changing.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to I'm talking to the people. Everybody likes that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure of his grasp of history. We won
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  Speaker 1: World War One.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they had a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: helping hand from, among others, Australia and New Zealand. But
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  Speaker 2: make that as what you will. What do you make
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  Speaker 2: of the change of the name of the department?
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  Speaker 6: Well, look again, there are many things that I like
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  Speaker 6: about what Donald Trump has done. But I again think
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  Speaker 6: this one might play well domestically, but I don't know
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  Speaker 6: that it sends the right signals to the globe. You know,
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  Speaker 6: for example, it allows you to point at the United
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  Speaker 6: States and say, see, this is an aggressive stance. We're
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  Speaker 6: not the ones who are going to make war.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 6: The Chinese line is that there has been this domination
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  Speaker 6: of the Pacific by the Americans and that you know,
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  Speaker 6: the Chinese line is that the Americans are engaging in
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  Speaker 6: cold war mentality, and you know, to be talking about
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  Speaker 6: a Department of War, Well, that's an aggressive statement. I
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  Speaker 6: think it's I think it's bad optics. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: we'll go well, go down well in Australia. I had
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  Speaker 6: a focus group of two women this evening. One happens
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  Speaker 6: to be my wife and her dear friend, and well
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  Speaker 6: they're both ladies. But I can't tear what they said.
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  Speaker 6: It's not fit for this show. So, you know, like,
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  Speaker 6: I just don't think it's a good idea, you know, internationally,
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  Speaker 6: when when the Americans should be maintaining that they are
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  Speaker 6: about freedom, about living, about democracy, and you know, it
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  Speaker 6: is about defending those values as opposed to a statement
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  Speaker 6: about making more, because that's the way it will be
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  Speaker 6: used by their foes. I'm afraid.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I.
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  Speaker 6: Get his argument about it being a more robust sort
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  Speaker 6: of statement about what they can do, how they can
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  Speaker 6: project power, but I don't know that that's what's needed
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  Speaker 6: at the current time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to be in a closed door room
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  Speaker 2: with Anthony Alberanezi when he found out about that. Let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about domestic politics. I mean these NDIS ruts, I
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  Speaker 2: read these every week or so when they come out.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't believe it. One person apparently spent one
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on a vehicle, solar panels, and a
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  Speaker 2: massage chair, plus paid off some more over the mortgage.
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  Speaker 2: Another case, an unregistered provider claimed four hundred years of
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: medical supplies to the tune of two hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Hundreds of people that have been ordered to pay back
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  Speaker 2: the money. Good luck will never see that. But this
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  Speaker 2: whole thing was set up so poorly, and as you
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  Speaker 2: and I both know Campbell, and we've said it forever,
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  Speaker 2: if you put a big pot of government money out
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  Speaker 2: on the table, crooked people will find a way to
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  Speaker 2: get hold of it.
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's been poorly designed and conceived. And look, when
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  Speaker 6: I was premier, I was right in the middle of this,
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  Speaker 6: and I actually in the record will show this fort
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  Speaker 6: Julia Gillard about an early launch because at one stage
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  Speaker 6: there were going to be these trial sites for the NDIS,
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  Speaker 6: and then overnight Gillard to Captain's call sort of things,
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  Speaker 6: said we're going to go for launch sites. These will
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  Speaker 6: now be launch sites. And I had an immense amount
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  Speaker 6: of pressure put on me as premiere. I was called
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  Speaker 6: a holdout. I literally was criticized by some sections of
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  Speaker 6: the media. They sort of said all sorts of quite
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  Speaker 6: personal stuff about Newman doesn't like he hates people with disabilities,
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: he doesn't care about them. My simple complaint at the
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  Speaker 6: time and my call of concern was that this is
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  Speaker 6: being done with haste. It has not been properly thought through,
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  Speaker 6: it's not properly designed and frankly, steve everything that's happened
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: since those who barracked unashamedly for this to happen in
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: that way, they should hang their heads in shame. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Julia Gillard, who gets lots of plaudits for sort of
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: implementing the indi is that's the key person responsible here.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: I believe the Labor Party now realized that this leviath
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: and this runaway train needs to be curved, and these
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: sorts of roughts and feather bedding have to be brought
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: brought to heal. They have to be brought under control
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: because the nation simply can't afford it in the long term.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Campbell, you called it way back then, Well done. I'c
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: talk to you shortly.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Campbell.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Newman joined us every Friday night now coming up after
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the break off, we joined by local council watchdog mid
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: calls for the City of Melbourne to review its grants program.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You won't believe what the shoveling money out to do.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Plus will take a look at the political firestorm involving
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: asylum seeker hotels in the UK. Welcome back to Steve Price.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: For you, I'll take you to the UK shortly. Not
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Duol Raj's parties having its annual conference and it's all
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: about immigration. We'll check on how that's going shortly. But
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: first up, there's calls for the City of Melbourne's grants program.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So this is the Melbourne City Council. Like all the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: major councils around the country, they've got a grants program.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Now there are calls for this to be reviewed. You
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: want to know why.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Well, there's been revelations that one hundred and thirty thousand
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: dollars was given let's hand it out, rape payers money
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to an organization to provide tailored financial advice to sex workers. Now,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: sex workers might need financial advice, but why is the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: city council paying for it? Joining me now is Council
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Watch president Dean Hurlstone. Can you answer that question for me?
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: Well, look, Steve, what the problem is that we know
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: across all of these grants across all councils is that
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: most of them are not published. So the community has
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: denied the opportunity to see them. We know that there
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: are active investigations into alleged corrupt processes at the moment
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: in other councils in Melbourne. And what this says is
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: that anything woke, you're going to get rewarded with a
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: community grant from councils. They don't have any KPIs, they
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: don't have any public transparency around it. We want the
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: state government to legislate that every dollar in grants must
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: be public.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: You know what, I would have thought they were. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: can't believe they're not.
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: No, many of them are confidential, Steve. They're hidden under
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: confidentiality provisions.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that grant we just mentioned that was provided back
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: in I think May of twenty twenty three, and then
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: this year ten thousand dollars have provided to help connect
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: international students to seniors through things like yoga, cultural cuisine
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and social gatherings. That sounds to me like a way
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: for international students to get free yoga, free meals and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a night out.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much.
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: So.
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: You know, I thought about this today, Steve, and I thought,
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: perhaps we start a white male pole dancing collaboration and
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: see if the City of Melbourne will fund that. I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: why not you know they'll fund anything, so why not.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: Let's let's keep that a go. You and I can
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: start that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: So this whole idea that counts as I've got to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: shovel money out for whoever comes out with a begging
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: bowl and asks for it seems to be rather unusual,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: given that if you look around the state. You and
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I've talked about this before, councils are not doing the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: job that they're supposed to be doing anyway. I mean,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: forget about roads and rubbish, which are just as bad
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: as anything, but they're jacking their rates up without you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: anyone being able to complain about it. They put levee
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: after levy after levy on things. All of the roads
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: have got potholes in them. What about if they start
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: spending the money on the things they're supposed to spend it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: On, Well, I think they wouldn't know what to do
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: because they're so good at announcing rubbish, and I don't
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: mean collecting rubbish. They just announced any fancy thing, whether
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: it's a junkert, whether it's a lovely case study into something.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: I mean, the City of Melbourne, for goodness sake, came
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: out with their vision for twenty fifty and it was
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: to be the most optimistic and happy municipality. What utter garbage.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Go through the city, like you said today, Steve, go
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: through the city and look at the crime, look at
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: the grime, look at the graffiti.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Address that first. How many times do we have to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: tell you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Well, Dean, someone who's not looking at all that stuff
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: because he's never here. Is Melbourne's Lord Mayor Nick Greese,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: former Sky News presenter. He's trying to defend trips. Now
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: where's he going between now at the end of the year,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: he's going to China.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Japan, China, India's read.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: The same region. That's not bad, Brazil, India, Brio. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: mean here he was on three AW trying to defend
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: what he's doing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: But I do think if you have a serious, proper
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: look at the itinary and what is planned and the
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: meetings and connections are occurring, that these trips do make
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: sense and do benefit our Melbourne, our city.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you, anyone who goes on one of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: these junkets tries to defend the hell out of it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: What we need to do, particularly you and I need
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to do, is when he gets back, we count six
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: months ahead and say, okay, prove one thing that you
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: got out of doing those four trips.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Yes, Steve, we know that everyone that pays their rates
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: can't reconcile junkets. Junkets are a dirty word. And I
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: don't know about you, but I am sick to death,
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: as is the public of counselors and mayors defending that
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: interstate and overseas travel is necessary for local council There's
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: a keyword.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: They're local.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: Yes it's the city of Melbourne, but it's not the
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: state or federal government. You know, stop gas lighting the community.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: No more junkards. It needs to be a mantra. It
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: needs to be banned, particularly overseas. It's just taking us
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: for a ride.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Dean, keep on their back. Always good to catch up
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: with you, Dean Helston. They're keeping an eye on local councils.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I want to go overseas now. What has become a
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: real hot button issue in the UK. I spoke to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth at Wealth about this when I was filling
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: in for Peter Creblin last week. Now Britain is engulfed
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: in what you can only describe as a political firestorm
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: over the use of hotels to house tens of thousands
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of asylum seekers.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Now, can you imagine if we did that here?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I mean it was bad enough when we had a
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: boat people problem, but to put all these people in hotels.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: People are just sick and tired it. There are protests,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: there's legal battles, and there's huge concern over I legal immigration.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: The numbers come across the Inn Channel are just out
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: of control. Joining me now to discuss adventurer and social
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: commentator Adrian Hayes, who actually joins us tonight from Hong Kong,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and we'll give you an ida why he's there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: In a minute.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Adrian, how angry people in the UK over illegal boat
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: people being scooped up on the English side of the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Channel and stuck in hotels, given mobile phones, given jobs?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: How angry are they?
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: That's the problem.
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: I think Bretain, we are renowed, has been a tolerance society,
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: very accepting, but I think the blue touch paper has.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: Been lit and people are furious.
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: And it all started with this Bell hotel and Epping
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: where a legal immigrant was caught section abusing a young girl.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: And of course it's spread across the whole of the country.
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: As you said, illegal immigrants come to the country and
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: getting five star fourstow hotels and all these benefits, zoo trips,
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: mobile phones, a lot. So people are very angry about it,
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: including I should stress memory immigrants who've been there for
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: quite a few years their furious as well because they
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: had to go the hard way, not the easy way
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: that some people say the boat people are getting, Adrian.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I mean we you know, we've got Sakia, starmer and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: labor running the country supposedly at the moment, but the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Tories before them weren't much better in controlling this illegal
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: immigration problem. I mean you only had to look really
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to what Australia did. I mean, we've got a massive
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: advantage that we're a huge island and we're surrounded by ocean.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But we just said you won't land here. If a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: boat arrives, we'll turn it around and send it back
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to where it came from.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Why can't they do that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: It's called a lack of courage, Steve, And this is
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: I think one thing people are realizing. It doesn't matter
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: which party, the Conservative Party beforehand, the Labor Party. Now
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: we've just had this and I'm a leadership coach, I coach, consultant.
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: Issue we've had the weakest leadership we've seen probably in
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: a generation, and that's across Europe, across much of the world.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: It could be stopped overlight. Australia did it, America's done it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: Whether you love Loath Trump will love him, He's done
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: it there. Even Greece crete has pulled back the migrants.
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: Legal migrants come across there, So it is possible. It
• 27:07
  Speaker 11: takes something called courage and good judgment, which we seem
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: to be very much lacking in our ruling.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Classes across the UK and across Europe.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Nigel Varje obviously he's having his national conference. I know
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you're in Hong Kong, but he's doing that this weekend.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: It's played right into his supporters and the popularity of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: his party, hasn't it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: It hasn't and far Arch isn't just jumping on the bandwagon.
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: He's been speaking about this for many, many years. He
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: raised the issue when he was on a boat in
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: the English Channel, so he's been raised it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: And of course the Reform Party are riding high in the.
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: Opinion polls and if there was a next election held tomorrow,
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: they would form the next government by a majority and
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: of course all the leaders the Conservative Party and Labor
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: Party are having to go to his tune.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: But he's tapping into what is happening in this country.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: And I think there's an awakening what's happened in the UK.
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: We've suddenly really joining the dots, finding the vested interests
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: and following the money and realizing, you know what corruption
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: there is and going in this whole and sort of
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: like I say, lack of leadership going to this unsustainable situation,
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: both the legal migration and legal migration, because we have
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: a million people legally entering the UK every year, which
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: is simply unsustainable for social policies transport, hospitals, schools, but
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: also energy systems, food resources, water resources, pollution, waste and
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: not I speak on sustainability. It's an unsustainable issue and
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: nobody's been prepared to solve this, but Farage and Reform
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: Party appear to be putting their money where their mouth is.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Adrian, I mean, you're a patriot. What's this nonsense argument
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: about you know, it being a bad thing to wave
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the union Jack or of the Saint George Platt.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Well, you're right, and I see this from a different perspective.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: I say, people are angry.
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: And I think where they've managed to rally round is
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: our own flag. But we don't generally fly the flag
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: apart from football rugby matches, but we're now doing it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: And I think it's not just about illegal immigration.
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: I think it's a ripost against the whole establishment sort
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: of making us feel ashamed over the past few years
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: of who we are, about our diluting of our culture, identity,
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: about the progressive movement, and all this capturing of the judiciary,
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: the education and police forces, so many things that there
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: is a sort of a pushback against, and just doing
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: it in the form of our own flag.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: Look, I've lived in the UA, the Emirates. There's Emirates
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: flags everywhere. I was in Norway a few weeks ago.
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: I go there quite a lot Norwegian flags everywhere. It's
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: not a far right nationalist thing. It's all people, common
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: people coming together and saying we really want to show
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: that we are a nation and.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: We're proud of our nation.
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: We were at once a great nation, but we've been
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: sort of demeaned and undermined by the sharing competence of
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: our political class over the last few decades.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You're in Hong Kong to talk about life and death.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Because you are an adventurer. I want to get you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: back at some point to talk about this at some length.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But you were descending Mount can Can Chin Junger, third
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: highest mountain in the world, alone on the mountain, trapped
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: for thirty six hours, an injured hand, no oxygen, no liquid,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: battling hypoxy or, a hallucination, and frost bite.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: What went wrong?
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah, look it's count Juggle, the third alf about
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: the world. I've climbed K two, I've climbed Everest. It's
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: harder than even K two. It's nearly as steep and
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: twice as long, and you know, it took twenty hours
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: to get to the top. But on the way down,
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: just below the summit, fellow teammate crashed into me and
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: literally just located my wrist it's still in a splint.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: And put me out of action. And then I got
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: a condition called cerebral.
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: Edema hard as use cerebraedema. I got hallucinations, I was
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: being aggressive and then eventually lost conscious about eight three
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: hundred and fifty meters on this mountain, and most people
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: die up there, basically left to die. But I did
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: my best impersonation of Lazarus came back from the dead
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: and then, you know, and really took responsibility. I had
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: to get down that mountain over thirty six housand you
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: said it. I was seeing things that weren't real, but
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: somehow got back down. I think it's the old military
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: discipline I used. You know, I served in the Gurkhas
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: for eight years, that military discipline of getting back down
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: on a very experienced and adventuring but I cossed it
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: with my hands. You see the frostbite on my fingers.
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: Some of your fewers may be a little bit cooled
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: and this risk is still had it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's reality. Yeah, don't anyone off their dinner.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not Adrian. An amazing story, amazing story of survival.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you survived. Would love to talk to you
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: again on the program. Thanks for joining us from Hong Kong.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: What a man there, what a what a survival story.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That is now coming up after the break talking about
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: great men. Cartoonist Mark Knight, it's been Dan Andrews week
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: with the former premier in China. Hasn't Marke had fun
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: with that? Must we'll discuss that startling audio from the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: moment that a Virgin Airline pilot came across Chinese navy drills.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Steve Price with you. I'll go to that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Extraordinary story of the Virgin Airline pilot flying from New
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Zealand to Australia. It gets a message from a Chinese
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: warship that they're about to fire live missiles. He tells
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: air traffic control to go, What do you want us
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to do about it? I mean, you couldn't make this
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: stuff up. It'd be a good cartoon. Actually, Herold's cartoonist
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Mark Knight joined us in the studio.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: I did draw a cartoon.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I did draw a cartoon about that. Yes, do you
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: believe that virginari are four defenses?
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: Now?
• 32:39
  Speaker 13: We just you know, they just tell us when we're
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: in peril.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And Elbow says, theres nothing to see here. It's a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: good no problem Dan Andrews. I mean, here's the gift
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that keeps giving. We thought he'd gone, you know, after
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: his term as the COVID premiere locking us up. You
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: must have done a thousand would you have done a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: thousand cartoons of Dan Andrews?
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: Well, people used to say to me, you're being a
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: bit hard drawing him was Dictator Dan, aren't you Well,
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: it's just proven.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: There you go, So he was with dictators in China.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Your cartoon. Let's have a look at the one that
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you drew. This is the one I think where he's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: taking us sound with Kim Vladd and gee.
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: They're all there. I mean, they're awesome, forsome. Let's call
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: them all the hosts not not real. Yes, that probably
• 33:23
  Speaker 13: happened my cartoon. You know, Dan always loved social media,
• 33:27
  Speaker 13: and I thought, how am I going to portray because
• 33:29
  Speaker 13: everybody was talking about this picture, the picture of him
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: with everybody, so I wanted to sort of make light.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Of the picture.
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: And there they all are, all posing, all sort of
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: you know, showing off for the camera.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: And you never want to go to Russia. I don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: give Ladd will be all that happy about that. Small
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: he rides around a horse without a shirt on.
• 33:50
  Speaker 13: They're very tough guys there, you know, they're actually I
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: think when when Putin went to Alaska to meet Donald,
• 33:56
  Speaker 13: I had him riding a polar bear to the meeting.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: That's now Dan also featured. I think this is a
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: piece of cartooning genius.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, because we've got a debate going on in Victoria
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: about whether Dan should have a statue or not. Yes,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: so length of time you serve as premier the day's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: determine whether you were entitled to a statue.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Jeff Kenne brought this in. Yes he did, but he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: didn't get one because he wasn't there long enough.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But have a look here here's the great leader in
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Teman Square.
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: Well, if we do give Danny's statue, I think the
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: thing is, where's it going to go? Where it's not
• 34:27
  Speaker 13: going to be vandalized? And obviously Geman Square perfect place
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: for Dan's statue.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't get a statue. I'll give you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: some good cartooning though the protests. We had more protests
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: at the weekend was the Australian Proud Rally which was
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: invaded by the Neo Nazis, and you had the pro
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Palestinian that poor copper.
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  Speaker 13: I felt sorry for the police, you know, the weekend
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: after they lost two of their members in tragic circumstances,
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: they had to go and stand between two sort of
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: pro testing more than.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Two actually Neo Nazis.
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: There were Palestinians, there were Proud Australians, there was the now.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Everybody was the person to be a police officer.
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  Speaker 13: Well, yeah, the poor old coppers are in the middle
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: of all that, and that's just sort of empathizing with
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: their plight on that day.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: The renewables backlash.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Now, we've had lots of arguments on this program about
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: farmers are not happy. Yes, in fact, they're going to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: get turbines, solar panels, transmission lines, and you can't argue
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: about oh, hello, well Justin can just sent us headlining
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the transmission.
• 35:31
  Speaker 13: I love drawing Just Center as a I love those
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: Japanese you know, horror movies like Godzilla, where these things,
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: you know, these huge creatures attack mankind, and so I
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: draw Just Center is like this huge electricity staunch and
• 35:45
  Speaker 13: come to life, and it's just marching through people's properties.
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: Any feedback from Justina's elfice when no, she wouldn't give
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: me that oxygen Steve, that'd be a win for me
• 35:54
  Speaker 13: if she Kennett used to ring me up and say
• 35:59
  Speaker 13: can I have a personally?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: So that's like I did.
• 36:03
  Speaker 13: But you know, they're just marching through farmer's properties now
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: under this new legislation at.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Will Mark, great for to seeing you in a couple
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: of weeks time now I mentioned this virgin flight Mark
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Straw in a cartoon about it. Newly released audio now
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  Speaker 2: Channel nine got hold of this. It's the frightening moment
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  Speaker 2: a virgin pilot was worn mid flight of a live
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: fire exercise. I shouldn't laugh by Chinese warships off Australia's
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: east coast. The flight was between New Zealand and Australia
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: ours fuel concerns over safety, sovereignty, not to mention the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Albanzi government's handling of Beijing joining US now to discuss
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: all of this. Aviation expert Captain Byron Bailey. Byron the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: audio itself will play it in a moment, But when
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I heard it and the response from air traffic control,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I could not believe it. It was almost as if
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: air traffic control couldn't believe what they were hearing.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, it's really nothing to do with their traffic control,
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: and besides, it's international waters. This super air warfare destroyer
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: was probably well new. It was on a shakedown crew,
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: so obviously they'll be doing drills and rehearsals testing their weapons.
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: So the fact that there was three hundred kilometers off Sydney
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: I think there's been a big over reaction airline pilots.
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: When they're out over the sea, you listen on one two,
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: one five on your back up radio, which is the
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: international distress frequency. I've had two incidentss over the years
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: in airliners where I've been challenged by battle groups, one
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: in the Arabian Sea and one in the Persian Golf.
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: And they have you on radar. You must not approach them.
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: They warn you off, and you well, what happened with
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: my one up the Persian Golf. I'd just taken off
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: from Dubai and was flying up to London on Emirates
• 37:55
  Speaker 14: one just leveled the Triple seven three hundred and thirty
• 37:59
  Speaker 14: two thousand feet and on the third radio one two,
• 38:02
  Speaker 14: one five an American voice aircraft blah blah, blah blah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: gave me details. You must hold a course. You're approaching
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: out Belgrip. Well, the Fifth Fleet, which is the most
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: powerful striking force in the world, is actually famous for
• 38:15
  Speaker 14: winning against the Japanese in the Marianas Big Battle in
• 38:19
  Speaker 14: the Second World War. Or the Fifth Fleet was coming
• 38:23
  Speaker 14: down the Persian Gulf, hadn't told anyone, and all of
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: a sudden, I'm challenged and told I must alter course. Well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: I know, if it had been anybody else with the Americans,
• 38:35
  Speaker 14: I certainly would, But I know they knew we had
• 38:38
  Speaker 14: a daily eight am flight, Emirates One who buy to London.
• 38:42
  Speaker 14: I also knew that they were pretty familiar with the airway,
• 38:46
  Speaker 14: so I said, I challenged them and said, look, we're
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: Emirates one, We're on an airway. We can't hold a course.
• 38:53
  Speaker 14: And they come back a bit stroppy, and I said, look,
• 38:56
  Speaker 14: you're under an airway, you know you are. We can't
• 38:59
  Speaker 14: hold a corps And the guys got real stoppy, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: I suddenly lost and said go home, yank. Well there
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: was a silence throughout twenty seconds. Then I think it
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: was the captain came on different voices said no, need
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: to be like that, and I said, well, sorry, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: we're on an airway. So guess what. I overflew the
• 39:18
  Speaker 14: battle group and what a side It was a super
• 39:21
  Speaker 14: carrier advanced screen of ASW frigates, followed by air warfare destroyers,
• 39:28
  Speaker 14: followed by missile cruisers auxiliaries who It was impressive, but yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 14: you can expect, especially if you're flying across the North Pacific,
• 39:38
  Speaker 14: you can expect to come across warships doing drills and
• 39:42
  Speaker 14: you must never overfly them. They'll always challenge you, so
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: we better get used to it, because I reckon next
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: time the Chinese will send an aircraft carrier down through
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: the pond as it's callned like we send stuff through
• 39:55
  Speaker 14: the straits of Taiwan. So what's the big deal? It's international,
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: we do not tell anyway.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: That must have been an extraordinary sight to see. Let's
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: just quick listen to this grab too, and I think
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree after what you've just said that
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: was a bit of an overreaction. Let's have a quick listen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Here it is.
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  Speaker 12: We'll see one six one. We've just had a warning
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: from a Chinese naval's hub of course, that they're doing
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: a live firing exercise. Is anyone aware of that today?
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: Had by the level that they'll be firing to.
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: And they've just within a one three of our radius?
• 40:32
  Speaker 12: Is that position? We got?
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: Me?
• 40:37
  Speaker 12: Think I know what happened?
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: Good luck?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the I love the pilot's humor. It's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like you, Barren, they're very very cheeky people.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Barron.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again, mate, Thank you
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: very much. That story about the Fifth Fleet was just extraordinary.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Now coming up after the break, the latest plans for
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: a protest march across Sydney Harbor Bridge, not another one,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: and also Victoria's scrapped Conwalth Games has made a list
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: of the world's biggest event disasters, a list you don't
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: want to be on. Welcome back time for our panel
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  Speaker 2: fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs, Mia schlit and
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Sky on his regular Friday night regular Joe hilde Brown.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Great to see you both again as usual. Conspiracy linked
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: groups including Anti VAX's Sovereign Citizens Where do all these
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: people come from? Are pushing to stage a protest march
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Joe across the Sydney Harbor Bridge. It's now reignited the debate.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: You and I both said it at the time, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Mia would agree. Once you had a court
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: case that says okay, you can get access to the bridge.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: We're not going to stop you doing it. Someone else
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: was going to try and do it. You know what's next.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: You know, people who are fighting for greater rights for
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: dogs off leash is going to have a march.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a bridge. I can't do anything I.
• 41:52
  Speaker 15: Could not stay more at the risk of a massive
• 41:55
  Speaker 15: contempt of court. The decision, by I think was a
• 41:59
  Speaker 15: Supreme Court judge to allow the Free Palestine protest to
• 42:05
  Speaker 15: go ahead on the.
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: Harbor Bridge was incredibly naive.
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: To put it nicely, I mean the idea that a
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: judge wouldn't understand the concept of precedents and the sort
• 42:17
  Speaker 15: of precedent that this was setting, and that it would
• 42:20
  Speaker 15: be putting what is supposed to be an impartial, apolitical
• 42:24
  Speaker 15: judicial body that is critical to our democracy, one of
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: the three pillars of the separation of powers, and.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: That it would basically force.
• 42:35
  Speaker 15: The courts to suddenly pick political sides, which protests, which
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: causes were worthy of marching over the Harbor Bridge and
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: which weren't. Thank god, this latest march has been denied,
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: but again the first one should never have been approved
• 42:49
  Speaker 15: in the first place. And so of course you will
• 42:51
  Speaker 15: have these nutters saying that, oh, well, you know, they
• 42:53
  Speaker 15: let the other side have a go, but they won't
• 42:55
  Speaker 15: let we have a go, and that's us have a go.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And so that's what that's what.
• 43:00
  Speaker 15: Happens when courts dare to their toe in what are
• 43:05
  Speaker 15: essentially political matters in terms of the causes and operational
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: matters in terms of the ability for police to maintain
• 43:14
  Speaker 15: a safe environment. And again we know with the Harbor
• 43:16
  Speaker 15: Bridge protest that it was at risk of being a
• 43:19
  Speaker 15: crowd crushing event and police had to turn people back.
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: That is often forgotten as well. So yeah, a good
• 43:25
  Speaker 15: decision this time, a terrible decision the first time.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Round me, We're all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: For free speech, but this is the Harbor Bridge, a
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: major link between north and South in Sydney. If you
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: want to have a protest, okay, we give you the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: right to protest, but you should do it in a
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: place that doesn't disrupt everybody else, like a park. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: mean me or you and I have seen every Sunday
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: in Melbourne Free Palestine pro Palestine marches take over the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: CBD of Melbourne. People are trying to run businesses in there.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I'm told half the restaurants in Chinatown are going broke
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: because no one wants to go into Melbourne on a
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Sunday anymore. At some point you've got to say no.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, Steve, I am a huge advocate for free speech.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: I'm a huge advocate for freedom of expression and protests.
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: They certainly play a role under that umbrella. But there
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: is a certain point where they just go too far.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: And I live in Melbourne, as you just said, and
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: I have to say that I am getting quite sick
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: of these constant protests and the nature of which they're
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: carried out. I mean, protests which bully, harass, intimidate, or
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: stop the general public from going about their business. Then
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: they're no longer serving that role of freedom of speech
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: or freedom of expression. They're going too far. And I
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: think we really at some point we have to draw
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: a line under these.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Mea.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked a lot about anti Semitism, and
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Joe's been a great advocate for Jewish Australians, and he,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: like us, hates the fact that it's exploded. I note
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: that vic ALIDEV, who have meant in many times multiculture
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: in New South Wales. He was in his car, he
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: beaped his horn, there was someone in front of him.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: He wanted the car to move.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: This person suddenly exploded and started screaming anti Semitic random
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: abuse at this blog vic Alide, who had done nothing wrong.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: It seems to me Mia that even though we've identified
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the problem, it's not getting better. It's actually getting worse.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, this is really disappointing to hear, and it's pretty
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: clear from the day to day stories we're hearing that
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: anti Semitism is just out of control across this country,
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: which is just incredibly disappointing. I mean, in Melbourne alone,
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: it wasn't too long ago that we had anti Israel
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: protesters who were storming a Jewish restaurant and the police
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: were told not to intervene, so not to add more
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: fuel to the fire of the issue, which is just unbelievable.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: But it's no surprise when there is a complete lack
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: of leadership from our political class on this issue. I
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: mean we have Alban Easy and Penny Wong standing up
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: there wanting to recognize Palestine, Palestine which is still under
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: the control of a terrorist organization, and this is just
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: legitimizing the cause. And then we're all shocked to hear
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: that anti Semitism is right through Australia. I mean, it
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: starts from the top and they need to start leading
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: the way of this issue.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Joe, you and I are newspaper veterans. We know the
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: value of a photograph. Could you believe the photograph of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews top right in the class picture in Tineman
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Square in Beijing where he's standing with Vladimir Putin, Kim
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Jong wun, and President G. Then the TV pictures of
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Dan shuffling along in his black suit, shaking G's hand.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I mean this really, seriously is a massive error by
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: this bloke?
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think what an error?
• 46:56
  Speaker 15: Sort of I suppose implies that it was a misjudgment
• 46:59
  Speaker 15: by Dan Andrews. I'm not sure that it was. I
• 47:01
  Speaker 15: think it was a very deliberate judgment. Was that his
• 47:05
  Speaker 15: business interests are more important than Australia's national interest because
• 47:10
  Speaker 15: clearly having a senior political figure, albeit retired, but an
• 47:16
  Speaker 15: incredibly senior, well known Australian political figure standing almost within
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: you know, the one point five meters that his government
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: would prosecute anyone from breaching during the COVID years of
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: some of the world's most murderous tyrannical dictators. Kim Jonghun
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: obviously a hideous human being who has killed countless people
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: in North Korea. Vladimir Putin we know, has killed tens
• 47:41
  Speaker 15: of thousands of people in Ukraine as well as other
• 47:44
  Speaker 15: former Soviet states that dare to try to express any
• 47:47
  Speaker 15: self determination the president of Iran. I mean, you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 15: thousands of gay people have been killed in Iran, murdered,
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: executed for being gay, and plenty of women as well
• 47:59
  Speaker 15: have been pressed and they're ratcheting up their oppression of women.
• 48:02
  Speaker 15: And when you stand in a photograph, a set piece
• 48:06
  Speaker 15: photograph like that, what all these leaders are seeking to
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: achieve is legitimacy, to make it look like they're not
• 48:12
  Speaker 15: tyrannical despots, that they are genuine international statesmen. And when
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: you stand alongside them, you are validating that. And it's
• 48:21
  Speaker 15: an incredibly selfish thing to do. And it's noteworthy that
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: Bob Carr, who also went over there, it would not
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: be touching that photo with a barge pole and tap
• 48:31
  Speaker 15: the grass.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, sadly MEA and Joe and I've run out
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: of time, but it doesn't surprise me in the least
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: that Daniel Andrews would do that is a narcissist. He's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: a nasty bloke and I'm not surprised. Thank you both
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the world. According to Rowan, Dean's coming up next