Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Several killed in one of the largest aerial onslaughts in four years
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well out to Ukraine. Remember that war.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Russia has launched nearly one thousand drones at Ukraine in
- 0:06Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. Authorities said several people have
- 0:09Speaker 2: been killed in one of the largest aerial onslaughts in
- 0:12Speaker 2: four years. Many of the targets were were far from
- 0:16Speaker 2: the front lines in the west of the country, among
- 0:19Speaker 2: them a seventeenth century church in the UNESCO protected old
- 0:23Speaker 2: town of Naviv. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinski said the attack
- 0:27Speaker 2: showed Russia's absolute depravity.
- 0:31Speaker 3: A time lapse from the International Space Station shows Ukraine's
- 0:34Speaker 3: capital besieged while the rest of the country is plunged
- 0:37Speaker 3: into darkness. The bright light in the center of the
- 0:40Speaker 3: screen is Kiev. The streaks of light are lightly Russian missiles,
- 0:46Speaker 3: the flashes of light that follow explosions in Kiev. In
- 0:51Speaker 3: the months since these recordings, there has been no let
- 0:53Speaker 3: up in the fighting. Russia launched a massive overnight wave
- 0:58Speaker 3: of four hundred drones supported by missile in artillery fire
- 1:01Speaker 3: at Ukrainian targets throughout the country. The residents of this
- 1:04Speaker 3: apartment in Zapporisia barely had time to flee the assault.
- 1:13Speaker 4: A very loud explosion woke us up. We quickly gathered
- 1:16Speaker 4: our things and ran downstairs. Everything was on fire and
- 1:20Speaker 4: our floor there was a direct hit to our floor,
- 1:23Speaker 4: but our flat is on the opposite side. There was
- 1:26Speaker 4: smoke and we took our three month old child and
- 1:28Speaker 4: ran quickly to the underground shelter. My car is destroyed.
- 1:32Speaker 4: All of our windows were blown out.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Brazen daylight attacks like here in the VIV continued during
- 1:41Speaker 3: the day. Experts worn this could be the start of
- 1:44Speaker 3: an expected spring offensive and warned that Ukraine civilians are
- 1:48Speaker 3: squarely in the crosshairs.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Strikes on energy and other vital infrastructure cutting civilians off
- 1:55Speaker 5: from the basics of survival electricity, water, heat.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of families.
- 2:01Speaker 5: Across the country are left in the dark and cold
- 2:04Speaker 5: for weeks on end. These attacks reflect a sustained pattern
- 2:08Speaker 5: of damage to the systems on which civilians depend to survive,
- 2:12Speaker 5: with you know, increasingly stepping in to fill the gaps
- 2:15Speaker 5: left by the deterioration of essential services.
- 2:21Speaker 3: With fighting reported across the front, civilians here are bracing
- 2:26Speaker 3: from more waves of Russian assaults.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Let's pick this up with my Coola belis Kov, who
- 2:33Speaker 2: is a research fellow at Ukraine's National Institute for Strategic
- 2:36Speaker 2: Studies as part of the Office of the President is
- 2:39Speaker 2: also a senior analyst that the Ukrainian NGO come back alive.
- 2:43Speaker 2: He joins us from Leviv in Western Ukraine, which, as
- 2:47Speaker 2: you saw in the report, has been hit today.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Welcome to d W. How has your day been.
- 2:55Speaker 6: Well, it's another difficult day of the war with another
- 2:59Speaker 6: Ukrainian and a bench of Ukrainian city has been attacked.
- 3:02Speaker 6: And it's a good reminder to everyone outside observers at
- 3:05Speaker 6: the fact that Ukraine survived this terrible winter, it doesn't
- 3:09Speaker 6: mean that Russian attacks would stop, and Russia definitely would
- 3:12Speaker 6: target criticular infrastructure, the infrastructure to sustain Ukrainian society because
- 3:17Speaker 6: there are very small chances that there would be major
- 3:20Speaker 6: advances on the front line and major breaks. So they
- 3:22Speaker 6: are banking on Ukrainian state not being able to function,
- 3:26Speaker 6: so be prepared for more of this kind of attacks.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this was a massive attack, one thousand drones in
- 3:33Speaker 2: twenty four hours. Ukraine's air defenses are famously running low
- 3:37Speaker 2: on munitions. How did those air defenses cope?
- 3:43Speaker 6: Well, it's kind of a typical attack and probably for
- 3:47Speaker 6: Russians it would be difficult to sustain the Stampo attacks
- 3:49Speaker 6: because you need quite a lot of time to program
- 3:51Speaker 6: each ub. Otherwise, we see how Russian adjusted or Ukrainian
- 3:56Speaker 6: count adjustment. So they decided to launch tow waves, so
- 4:00Speaker 6: one during night and another during day, and definitely when
- 4:03Speaker 6: a lot of munitions was consumed during the night, it
- 4:06Speaker 6: means that the attack during the day would be more effective,
- 4:08Speaker 6: more deadly. So it's another sign that Russians are constantly
- 4:11Speaker 6: involving in zero deadly tactics of attacking Ukraine and civilians
- 4:15Speaker 6: and zer infrastructure.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Right, So that's that's that's new?
- 4:19Speaker 2: Is it this this date, this double hit nighttime and
- 4:22Speaker 2: daytime because you're the Ukrainian munitions will be depleted.
- 4:26Speaker 1: That's a new Russian tactic.
- 4:30Speaker 6: Well to say that it's a zero vat we need
- 4:34Speaker 6: to see, I mean, it's one time occurrence. If they
- 4:36Speaker 6: keep attacking us in this way, yes, we can say
- 4:39Speaker 6: that there is another evolution in Russian tactics.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Understood, And is this the start of a so called
- 4:46Speaker 2: spring offensive that so many experts have been predicting.
- 4:52Speaker 6: It's better to separate what is going on on the
- 4:54Speaker 6: front line and the Russian attacks against infrastructure in their areas.
- 4:59Speaker 6: So these are separate processes. Yes, we've seen in a
- 5:02Speaker 6: peak in a fight in in the front line during
- 5:04Speaker 6: the last eight days, Russians lost more than nine thousand
- 5:08Speaker 6: dead and wounded, and the intensity of fighting is quite intense.
- 5:11Speaker 6: But Zia continues attacks against critical infrastructure. It's a separate
- 5:15Speaker 6: campaign on its zone basically, and they are not very
- 5:20Speaker 6: much related. So they exist in parallel. Yes, they complement
- 5:23Speaker 6: each other broadly speaking strategically, but these are parallel occurrence
- 5:27Speaker 6: and I don't see any like close relation between what
- 5:30Speaker 6: is going on on the front line right now and
- 5:32Speaker 6: what is going on with the strikes which target infrastructure.
- 5:35Speaker 6: The only link is that Russia would bet on destroying
- 5:38Speaker 6: infrastructure because there are very slim prospects of a classic
- 5:41Speaker 6: brick through the front line.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Tell us how Ukraine has been affected, if at all,
- 5:48Speaker 2: by the fact that the world attention is now focused
- 5:52Speaker 2: on what's going on in Iran?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Does that have any effect on.
- 5:55Speaker 2: How you prosecute the war, on how how you view
- 6:01Speaker 2: how excuse me? Does that have any effect on what
- 6:04Speaker 2: you get from the rest of the world.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Right now, we don't have any immediate negative direct effects
- 6:12Speaker 6: on our our fighting capability, but definitely Ukrainians are very pragmatic.
- 6:16Speaker 6: We'll learn the lesson of world politics, and we calculate
- 6:19Speaker 6: the risks in terms of competition for the interceptors in
- 6:22Speaker 6: coming one, in terms of our partners having balance of
- 6:26Speaker 6: book problems if this conflict goes on and they import
- 6:28Speaker 6: the fuel, and in general this another transatlantic rieft round
- 6:32Speaker 6: of tensions between US and European partners. So all this
- 6:35Speaker 6: stuff is widely debated in Ukraine alone, with prospects opened
- 6:39Speaker 6: in terms of our expertise in in air defense related
- 6:42Speaker 6: specifically to Kamikazi behaviors. So we debate both risks and
- 6:46Speaker 6: opportunities inside Ukraine these days.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for talking through that, Michael my Colla Beliskov,
- 6:52Speaker 2: Thanks so much