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Chuck in the Morning 8-5 Hour 3: It's a Hard Knock life, ABC's of the Mariners and Reckless at breakfast! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Eight o'clock hour here on this someday it is Chuck Powell,
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Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you. Greg Bell's going to join us
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Speaker 1: at nine o'clock today, we still have the abcs of
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Speaker 1: the MS and we'll get a little reckless at breakfast
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Speaker 1: at eight forty five. Since Bo Stevens took up the
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Speaker 1: seven forty five segment, he was very good though.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.
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Speaker 3: I liked hearing from him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, smart guy, and uh, I think that was very
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Speaker 1: like up front, very candid him just talking about the
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Speaker 1: educational process of being a rookie and getting used to
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Speaker 1: being a low man on the totem pole after you
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Speaker 1: were a big leader. You don't think about that a lot,
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Speaker 1: but like you're one of the leaders of your college
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Speaker 1: football team, a guy that everybody turns to for answers,
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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden you're seeking them. You're
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Speaker 1: being made fun of in the in the interview room,
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Speaker 1: where that would have never happened back in Iowa. No
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Speaker 1: one would have taken a shot at the leader, the captain,
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Speaker 1: Bo Stevens. And now and now he's got to go
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Speaker 1: through a little bit of rookie hazing and film study.
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Speaker 1: That's a that's Uh, you don't think about that a lot,
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Speaker 1: but obviously that's something that's real and Bo Stevens is
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Speaker 1: experiencing that for his first time in his life.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is definitely.
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Speaker 4: I can't imagine the transition of going from I mean,
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Speaker 4: you think about it, if you just going from high
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Speaker 4: school to college, what a transition that is, and just
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Speaker 4: getting to your kind of an adult learning or not
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Speaker 4: an adult, but you're forced to kind of be an
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Speaker 4: adult and you know, be on your own for the
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Speaker 4: first time. But now it's like no, now you really
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Speaker 4: are an adult and you've got to figure all this
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Speaker 4: stuff out, and you've got new responsibilities to your team,
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Speaker 4: to your now wife. I mean, just everything that's different
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Speaker 4: in his life is pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. So but great to
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Speaker 1: talk to him. Seems like he's got the right attitude
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Speaker 1: about it. I think he's gonna be fine. Uh And
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Speaker 1: from what we've heard, he's uh, at least in some
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Speaker 1: consideration for some playing time this year. I mean, Anthony
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Speaker 1: Bradford at least had to answer questions earlier this week
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Speaker 1: about whether or not he feels great about his starting
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Speaker 1: right guard position, which he did answer in the affirmative.
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Speaker 1: But the questions were asked for a reason, and I
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Speaker 1: think that that reason is bo stevens presence and whether
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Speaker 1: or not he can, if nothing else, one provide depth
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Speaker 1: and number two provide a little bit of doubt in
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford to maybe give Anthony Bradford a little extra
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Speaker 1: motivation to play better football this year, which he did
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Speaker 1: from the beginning of last season. Toward the end of
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Speaker 1: last season. Bradford was a completely different player by the
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Speaker 1: end of the year. But as you pointed out with
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Speaker 1: us last week, certainly both Stevens' presence here is something
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Speaker 1: to account for. And this if there is one position
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line that could or should be vulnerable,
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Speaker 1: it probably should be that right guard position. All right,
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Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about Hard Knocks. That's certainly the
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Speaker 1: big topic of conversation. We'll get back into the baseball
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Speaker 1: team not being able to score runs against Troy Melton
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Speaker 1: last night in the ABC's but certainly for Seattle sports fans,
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Speaker 1: their world champion Seattle Seahawks featured on Hard Knocks, something
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Speaker 1: that has never happened before in this city's history. I
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Speaker 1: do believe that the show has declined a little bit
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Speaker 1: here over the years. I don't think it's quite as
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Speaker 1: juicy as it once was, and they really do take
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Speaker 1: advantage of or they try to. They have tried to
4:43
Speaker 1: move away from it looking as cruel as it once did,
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Speaker 1: showing a person's journey that ends up getting cut. But
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Speaker 1: those were really compelling. That was really compelling theater. And
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Speaker 1: yet they're trying to protect players more. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: protect the organizations more, in the coaches more. If we're
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Speaker 1: going to invade your locker rooms and your practices, we
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we don't give away any
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Speaker 1: information that you deem precious. And so there's been back
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Speaker 1: and forth on that, and it's watered down the show.
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Speaker 2: It has.
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Speaker 1: It's watered down the product to a degree. I used
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Speaker 1: to watch it. I mean I used to count the
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Speaker 1: seconds till it was on once upon a time.
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Speaker 2: I have not been that way in.
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Speaker 1: Five six years probably, But Ashley, when it's your team
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Speaker 1: takes on a whole new meaning when it's the team
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Speaker 1: that you cover on a daily basis out of training camp,
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Speaker 1: when I'm seeing pictures what I'm looking at right now,
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Speaker 1: like on HBO last night when I'm at the facility
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Speaker 1: that they were showcasing so brilliantly, when they were showing
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Speaker 1: videos of that eagle that's sitting right over there in
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Speaker 1: that nest right now, I can see him right now,
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Speaker 1: he's right over there. When they're showing that eagle that
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Speaker 1: you got to watch fly around at camp, talking about
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Speaker 1: the team that you cover for a living, Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: takes on a.
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Speaker 2: Whole new meaning, and it certainly did last night.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was counting down all day until it.
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Speaker 4: Then, of course, when it was actually once it hit
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Speaker 4: six o'clock, we went to sit down and I was like,
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Speaker 4: what should we watch? And then I was like, oh, duh.
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Speaker 4: It just in my you know, my had a little
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Speaker 4: bit of a brain fart. But it was cool. And
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Speaker 4: I used to live right there, and so I used
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Speaker 4: to see that eagle. We called them king sprinkles. Oh
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Speaker 4: really yeah, and maybe it's a different level, but I
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Speaker 4: like to think that it's the same one.
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Speaker 3: And so it was cool.
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Speaker 4: I mean just all of the things too that they
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Speaker 4: did that I felt feel like, make us so proud
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Speaker 4: that we love our area so much. I mean, showing
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Speaker 4: the blue Angels and seafair and something that's so cool.
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Speaker 4: And I know it's not unique to us, the Blue
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Speaker 4: Angels visit other areas, but having the training camp right
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Speaker 4: there on the water and having the Blue Angels fly
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Speaker 4: over and you know, all the players and coaches just
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Speaker 4: kind of be in awe of it.
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Speaker 3: I think I just thought it was.
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Speaker 4: Cool just just to showcase our team. It is a
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Speaker 4: different feeling, and I was so excited about watching it
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Speaker 4: last night and I loved it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think really the campus might have been the
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Speaker 1: star of the show last night. The region might have
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Speaker 1: been the star of the show. I mean, maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: a prisoner of the moment. Maybe it is because it's
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Speaker 1: triggered so many things that I'm actively looking at right now,
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Speaker 1: or that I actively have been a part of the
7:16
Speaker 1: last eleven years of my life. But I maybe maybe
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Speaker 1: we're just caught in the moment, Ashley. But it didn't
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Speaker 1: seem like they just showcased a lot of the beauty,
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Speaker 1: a lot more than they have in passed hard knocks.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember them at Jets Camp, you know, spending
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Speaker 1: much time on the beauty or on eagles flying around
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Speaker 1: or anything else. So they did kind of just showcase.
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Speaker 1: You know how great it is to be a Seahawk
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Speaker 1: really in this facility that Greg and I talk about
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Speaker 1: so frequently, because the players are just blown away by
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Speaker 1: it when they come here, when they've experienced something else.
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Speaker 1: I you know, I think that you you uh, that's
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Speaker 1: a that's a great point that you bring up.
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Speaker 2: Is that maybe that was the star.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Mike McDonald's certainly got the most FaceTime yeah
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Speaker 1: on the episode, and he certainly is an interesting case
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Speaker 1: study and somebody worth talking about this morning the way
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Speaker 1: that they featured him in that episode last night. But
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Speaker 1: now that you mention it, I think maybe the star
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Speaker 1: of the first episode was how blown away HBO was
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Speaker 1: by this particular football facility.
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Speaker 3: It sure seemed like it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it seemed like they wanted to go out
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Speaker 4: of their way because they started with the Eagle.
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Speaker 3: They ended with the Blue Angels and the Eagle.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like they were making sure that people could see
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Speaker 4: just how unique it is at Seahawks Camp. Now, obviously
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Speaker 4: we don't have the Blue Angels flying over every week,
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Speaker 4: but we've got that eagle, and we've got the water,
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Speaker 4: and we've got this great facility. And I mean that's
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Speaker 4: one of the things you hear when players come here
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Speaker 4: for the first time is WHOA. I had no idea
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Speaker 4: it was like this. I mean, I'm sure we'll see
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Speaker 4: a seaplane come and go at one point from the dock.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they won't feature it as prominently in
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Speaker 1: future episodes, but I think we got an indication of
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Speaker 1: like I would imagine that the HBO people the first
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Speaker 1: time they went to lunch was like, this place is amazing, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and they sort of captured that in their camera work
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Speaker 1: here the last couple of weeks. They also had to
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Speaker 1: be interested in Mike McDonald's hottest coach in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, and I'm not talking about his appearance for
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Speaker 1: those of you that misread that, just the hottest name
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Speaker 1: in the coaching circles right now, a guy that has
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Speaker 1: been described as a genius here.
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Speaker 2: And that's a label that's probably put.
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Speaker 1: On too many people, frankly in coaching circles, but still
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Speaker 1: even though it's given too out too frequently, it still
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Speaker 1: doesn't get attached to that many people. So he's certainly
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Speaker 1: been attached with that label ever since he got here,
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Speaker 1: and to see a little different side of him, I
9:55
Speaker 1: mean there's a correct me if I'm wrong. There's a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a goofiness to him. There's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of, you know, I'm just a young guy trying
10:04
Speaker 1: to be good at this too, kind of aspect to
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Speaker 1: him that we saw. There was some concern that maybe
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Speaker 1: this head coach who's taken this city by storm and
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Speaker 1: made them a world champion within two years and is
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Speaker 1: being given the Lions share credit for having done that,
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Speaker 1: and will we see a side of him that we've
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Speaker 1: not seen before, that we've not been exposed to. Will
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Speaker 1: we like everything that we see? He's a little goofier,
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Speaker 1: He's a little sillier than I thought he would be
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Speaker 1: given a little more, you know, showing showing him on
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Speaker 1: camera as much as they did last night, and I
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Speaker 1: liked it. I certainly liked it. And there certainly is
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Speaker 1: a love affair for him. And maybe it's his expressions,
10:54
Speaker 1: his admittance of awkwardness that brings him down to their level.
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Speaker 1: But there's a leadership and I'm sure he's learned a
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Speaker 1: lot over time from other head coaches that he's been
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Speaker 1: around on how to do this. But there's something in
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Speaker 1: eight in him that I don't know if I've ever
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Speaker 1: seen in an NFL head coach. There is a way
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Speaker 1: that he communicates with the players, the way that he
11:17
Speaker 1: gets down on their level where he can be direct
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Speaker 1: and firm and get what he wants out of it
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Speaker 1: without having to yell to get his point across. There's
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Speaker 1: there's a specialness about him, and I think we got
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Speaker 1: another layer of that, certainly in the Hard Knocks episode
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Speaker 1: last night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just has a calmness.
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Speaker 4: I mean even from when we won the super Bowl
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Speaker 4: and he did the we Did Not Care thing. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that was like him getting excited there, but you could
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Speaker 4: tell that he was kind of out of.
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Speaker 3: His element in that moment.
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Speaker 4: And when they did the ring ceremony, I mean, that's
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Speaker 4: the time to be hooting and hollering and you know,
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Speaker 4: all sorts of things, and he was still very calm.
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Speaker 3: His demeanor was very calm.
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Speaker 4: When there was the Brady Russell Derek Hallton fight, he
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Speaker 4: was very calm when he was talking to Brady Russell
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Speaker 4: and he just talked to him. I mean, he didn't
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Speaker 4: that would be a prime opportunity to yell like hey man,
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Speaker 4: that's not cool and kind of embarrassed Brady Russell.
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Speaker 3: But he didn't. He chose to just talk to him
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Speaker 3: and be like, you know, you know you shouldn't say that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just very direct yeah.
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Speaker 3: And Brady Russell was like, you're right, I shouldn't have, but.
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Speaker 2: A you know, we all make mistakes, and we made one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and then Brady was like, well, I
12:25
Speaker 1: just didn't like the way he treated Cable do and
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Speaker 1: he acknowledged, like, yeah, you make a good point too,
12:30
Speaker 1: but you know, let's.
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Speaker 2: Patch that up.
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Speaker 1: You should be happy for Derek calling his money and
12:34
Speaker 1: not call him out right for having changed. And he goes, well,
12:37
Speaker 1: I took a cheap shot because I just felt like
12:40
Speaker 1: he took a cheap shot. So yeah, So that that
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Speaker 1: was That's a prime example of it. And and I
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Speaker 1: thought we saw another side of Mike McDonald that maybe
12:50
Speaker 1: Greg Bell's been exposed to, maybe Bob Condotta has been
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Speaker 1: exposed to, but I have not been exposed to that
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Speaker 1: side of Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 2: It was great.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that silly side that I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about. My favorite moment in the entire episode was
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Speaker 1: the Cooper Cup portion where Cooper cups sitting here, It's
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Speaker 1: just the two of them in their office and they're
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Speaker 1: obviously doing some sort of film study and Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 2: Is struggling with something.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they I wanted to see that
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Speaker 1: entire scene, but maybe there was some information that the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks deemed valuable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Cooper Cup. It starts.
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Speaker 1: The scene starts with the Cooper Cup just pointing out
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Speaker 1: something to Mike McDonald's like, oh, they came to the
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Speaker 1: center or something to that effect. And then this look
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Speaker 1: on Mike McDonald's face like this slow hands in the
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Speaker 1: air fist bump from yeah, Cooper Cump and then this
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Speaker 1: hands on my head?
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Speaker 2: How did I not see that?
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Speaker 1: And then and then just like this shaking of his
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Speaker 1: head like you know, giving him all props, and Cup
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Speaker 1: looking down at his phone like, no big deal.
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Speaker 2: I just told a genius what he missed.
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Speaker 1: That's all that, And they're really yeah, that entire exchange
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Speaker 1: as they were trying to highlight that Cooper Cup is
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Speaker 1: a coach on the field. We've heard that for the
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Speaker 1: last year, that Cooper Cup. We actually got to see
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Speaker 1: it all. I see what you mean by that where
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Speaker 1: he's just sitting there at Mike McDonald's desk looking at
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Speaker 1: film and Cooper Cupp casually points out something that a
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Speaker 1: genius did not see while he was watching it, and
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Speaker 1: how blown away by that Mike McDonald was, and how
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Speaker 1: goofy he was in kind of illustrating how impressed he
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Speaker 1: is by Cooper Cup.
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Speaker 2: I loved it.
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Speaker 1: That was my favorite scene in the entire episode.
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Speaker 4: Well, and I like it too because it shows he
14:40
Speaker 4: doesn't have an ego, right, He's not going to be
14:42
Speaker 4: He's not going to be offended that he didn't see
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Speaker 4: it or try to, you know, puff his chest like.
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Speaker 3: Oh I knew that. You know, he's genuinely.
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Speaker 4: Impressed that Cooper Cup saw something he didn't see. And
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Speaker 4: I wonder if part of that is his how young
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Speaker 4: he is and his age. I mean, he's, what thirty
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Speaker 4: eight and Cooper Cup's thirty three, and they're not that
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Speaker 4: far apart. And I wonder if the fact that he's
15:02
Speaker 4: kind of closer in age to a lot of his
15:04
Speaker 4: players than some coaches, I mean, and just you know,
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Speaker 4: even in the way that he talks to them, he
15:09
Speaker 4: makes sure he tucks them in a way that doesn't
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Speaker 4: make them defensive.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't get defensive.
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Speaker 4: It seems like there's no you know, real ego involved there,
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Speaker 4: and then by him not having the ego, he's kind
15:19
Speaker 4: of teaching his players to drop their ego and just
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Speaker 4: and maybe that's part of that whole chemistry and things
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Speaker 4: that we hear about the way that that everything operates
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Speaker 4: there under him.
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Speaker 2: But but he you know, he did get heated. He
15:33
Speaker 2: was angry.
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Speaker 1: He was angry in the episode was the offense was
15:37
Speaker 1: dominating the defense at one point and one of the
15:41
Speaker 1: practices and he's counting them and yelling out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was angry at that moment, but it's just more
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Speaker 1: just direct this is unacceptable. I'm counting this, I'm here,
15:51
Speaker 1: I'm observing it all. We got to be better than this.
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Speaker 1: And that's his pride and joyous defense. And so I'm
15:57
Speaker 1: sure he's excited that the offense has looked good so
16:00
Speaker 1: far in these scrimmage moments, but oh boy, that's a
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Speaker 1: teaching opportunity for him to crack down on his pride
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Speaker 1: and joy and that's the defensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: And then last thing I want to point out about
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Speaker 1: hard knocks, and we'll talk more about it with Greg
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Speaker 1: Bell at nine o'clock today, But speaking of pride and joy,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's the sun wearing Devin Witherspoon's jersey,
16:30
Speaker 1: or if his pride and joy is the player that
16:33
Speaker 1: he has his son wearing the jersey of Greg Bell's
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Speaker 1: told us for a long time that there is a
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Speaker 1: teacher's pet and that is Devin Witherspoon for Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 1: And if ever there was a clear indication of that
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Speaker 1: first episode of Hard Knocks, wife and child playing in
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Speaker 1: the office of Mike McDonald while he's on the field coaching,
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Speaker 1: and what jersey is little McDonald wearing. It is Witherspoon's jersey.
17:02
Speaker 1: They get a specialty made Devin Witherspoon jersey for little
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Speaker 1: McDonald And so, yeah, I think Greg's nailed it. I
17:09
Speaker 1: think that I think teachers got himself a pet and
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Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon And that was hilarious. I noticed it immediately
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Speaker 1: and I and wrote it down in my notes, like
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Speaker 1: I'll be damned if his son's not wearing I mean,
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Speaker 1: because the son's too young to have made his own decision.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's dad.
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Speaker 1: Choosing which players jersey you're going to wear in my
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Speaker 1: office for the first episode of Hard Knocks.
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Speaker 2: And it's twenty one.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it was. It's very obvious, and it was
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Speaker 4: very cute. And Jack is just adorable and stole the show.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I love hearing them say football, and clearly
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Speaker 4: he's his dad's son.
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Speaker 3: It was, it was adorable.
17:50
Speaker 4: One of our textures did point out to the as
17:52
Speaker 4: far as a goofy moment telling Emon Worry to scoot
17:55
Speaker 4: out of here, scoot.
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Speaker 2: On out here.
17:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that will exchange with Emon Worry too. He
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Speaker 4: wasn't agree about it nothing. He's just, you know, we
18:02
Speaker 4: need to do what's best for you and whatever is
18:05
Speaker 4: going to get you here this whole season and you're I.
18:07
Speaker 3: Mean the whole thing.
18:09
Speaker 4: You could be mad that even Worri comes, you know,
18:12
Speaker 4: shows up and goes to mini camps and things like
18:15
Speaker 4: that and is kind of not fully maybe being honest
18:18
Speaker 4: about how much in pain he is. You could be
18:21
Speaker 4: frustrated that he that it all took so long. But
18:24
Speaker 4: what's the point. It's not going to get you anywhere.
18:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think PS could learn a thing or two
18:29
Speaker 1: about that. Oh he should tell you, And I like, hey, whatever,
18:33
Speaker 1: you need to feel your best. If that's just leave
18:35
Speaker 1: in the middle of the show and take a nap,
18:37
Speaker 1: you do that.
18:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to record the first two hours
18:39
Speaker 3: and just sleep in.
18:42
Speaker 1: If you want to, you know, if you feel that
18:45
Speaker 1: you need to just go hang with your teammates, hang
18:47
Speaker 1: with your teammates, if you.
18:48
Speaker 2: Really need to hit your rehab hard, hit your rehab hard.
18:51
Speaker 4: You guys think a million dollars will help you do
18:54
Speaker 4: the show better, that's fine, Let's get you a million dollars.
18:56
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something because em and Orri
18:58
Speaker 1: might be riding around in a scooter, but I can
19:00
Speaker 1: promise you he's healthier than I am.
19:03
Speaker 3: So yeah, I as well.
19:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe maybe I could use a break. Maybe
19:09
Speaker 1: I just got to listen to my body.
19:10
Speaker 2: Rich That's the point what I'm trying to make right now.
19:14
Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, I will say what I said
19:18
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. I apologize if you were saving
19:21
Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks episode to watch later and we ruined
19:25
Speaker 1: some of that for you. But then again, it was unavoidable.
19:30
Speaker 1: This is not like some movie that's coming out. We
19:33
Speaker 1: are sports talk radio hosts, and our football team that
19:38
Speaker 1: we're covering was on Hard Knocks last night, and we
19:41
Speaker 1: have no choice but to discuss it the very next
19:44
Speaker 1: time that we cracked the mics. So if we spoiled
19:49
Speaker 1: something for you that you were planning on watching later.
19:52
Speaker 2: It tough.
19:53
Speaker 3: I don't apologize.
19:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had no choice in the matter. So anyway,
20:00
Speaker 1: we had to talk hard knocks. We've talked hard knocks.
20:02
Speaker 1: We'll talk more hard knocks with Greg Bell, but also
20:05
Speaker 1: talk about some of the other things. There was actually
20:07
Speaker 1: a couple news worthy the items in regards to Devin
20:10
Speaker 1: Witherspoon and nickim and worry that we'll have to discuss
20:13
Speaker 1: with Greg and he's got boots on the ground, so
20:15
Speaker 1: he's going to join us for a full hour today
20:17
Speaker 1: from nine to ten, so we'll chat with our Seahawks insider.
20:20
Speaker 1: Then coming up next though ABC's of the MS for
20:23
Speaker 1: you on Sports Radio ninety three point three KRFM right now.
20:26
Speaker 1: The ABC's of the MS the Daily Mariner feature that
20:29
Speaker 1: we do here on the show.
20:30
Speaker 2: We allow the alphabet to be our guide through.
20:32
Speaker 1: A Daily Mariner segment and we never know where it
20:35
Speaker 1: might take us. Some people, some people have gone to
20:38
Speaker 1: suggest that I go out of my way to make
20:42
Speaker 1: sure that I get to discuss the topics oh that
20:45
Speaker 1: I want to discuss, and then I just invent a
20:47
Speaker 1: word you know that matches what I want to talk about.
20:52
Speaker 2: I mean the nerve on some people. Yeah, you know
20:55
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
20:56
Speaker 3: What words are we inventing today?
20:58
Speaker 2: Well, that's just it.
20:59
Speaker 1: I mean why if you feel that way, which is
21:04
Speaker 1: insulting to the alphabet yes of the bit, then why
21:08
Speaker 1: on earth would we have left off of the letter
21:10
Speaker 1: G the day that Mitch Garver got released.
21:14
Speaker 3: It's true, not our fault.
21:17
Speaker 1: Come on, huh, tell you the alphabet knows not doing anything.
21:22
Speaker 1: G is for Garver here. It wouldn't have been funny
21:25
Speaker 1: if I went with something else. Yeah, G is for Garver,
21:28
Speaker 1: who was released yesterday. Man, what a difficult two and
21:33
Speaker 1: a half years it has been with this player that
21:36
Speaker 1: certainly was coming off a good year with the Texas
21:39
Speaker 1: Rangers when they won the World Series. If Corey Seger
21:43
Speaker 1: wouldn't have won the MVP, it was going to be
21:45
Speaker 1: Mitch Garver. He had dominated left handed hitting the last
21:49
Speaker 1: couple of years, and the Mariners thought, Hey, this guy
21:52
Speaker 1: has been unhealthy. It's the only thing that's gotten in
21:55
Speaker 1: his way of being a real power source for a lineup.
21:58
Speaker 1: He can crush lefties, We can use him in a
22:01
Speaker 1: DH roll. We don't even want him to catch. We
22:04
Speaker 1: don't even want him to catch. I mean, our first
22:06
Speaker 1: conversation with Mitch Garver was how excited he was not
22:10
Speaker 1: to have the burden of catching and to just focus
22:13
Speaker 1: on his hitting. And he told us every injury I've
22:16
Speaker 1: ever had was because of catching, and if that's been
22:20
Speaker 1: my biggest problem. He was very excited about the opportunity
22:24
Speaker 1: of not having to catch and then being able to
22:27
Speaker 1: hit and really see what he was capable of as
22:30
Speaker 1: a hitter, focusing on that full time, and it just
22:33
Speaker 1: never came together. He just never hit. I mean, he's
22:36
Speaker 1: had a couple moments.
22:37
Speaker 2: Here and there.
22:38
Speaker 1: You hope you would over two and a half years,
22:40
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of moments, but he just never
22:43
Speaker 1: hit and then had to be used as a catcher
22:47
Speaker 1: just to get some sort of value out of him. Yeah,
22:49
Speaker 1: and to his credit, I think that the pitchers did
22:52
Speaker 1: like pitching to him. Obviously, Cal liked him. Cal fought
22:56
Speaker 1: to bring him back on the roster this year when
23:00
Speaker 1: they had let him go and had already committed a
23:03
Speaker 1: million dollars to Andrew Kissner and also Johnny Pareda was
23:07
Speaker 1: also added in the off season, but in spring training,
23:10
Speaker 1: Cal fought for him, got him back on the roster.
23:12
Speaker 1: He makes the team, and for a while it looked
23:15
Speaker 1: like new Garv. He was excellent at challenging.
23:18
Speaker 2: He still is. He still was all the way through
23:20
Speaker 2: the end.
23:20
Speaker 1: He was excellent at challenging in the year of abs
23:26
Speaker 1: in the Challenge system, and he also continued to be
23:30
Speaker 1: a good receiver for the pitchers. But after hitting better
23:35
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, Ashley, he just returned
23:38
Speaker 1: to the same guy. And I think that pinch hit
23:42
Speaker 1: against where Dan Wilson chose Mitch Garver for whatever reason,
23:49
Speaker 1: over Victor Roblaze last Friday, bring a one seventy hitter
23:54
Speaker 1: off the bench to replace a hot two forty hitter.
23:58
Speaker 1: It was just so inexplicable that maybe it did contribute.
24:01
Speaker 1: Maybe that was Jerry saying, hey, we're just gonna play
24:04
Speaker 1: our favorites and not follow logic. Then I'm gonna take
24:08
Speaker 1: one of your favorites away from you. So let's bring
24:11
Speaker 1: up Johnny Pareda. He was doing really well. It was
24:15
Speaker 1: a flipping the coin as to who stayed up to
24:18
Speaker 1: begin with. And so now that the team has added
24:21
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces, it sounds like Johnny Parida for
24:25
Speaker 1: Mitch Garver kind of rounded out those decisions yesterday.
24:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, it made sense to me and I I mean again,
24:32
Speaker 4: you never want someone to lose their job, but when
24:34
Speaker 4: you're not performing and we've been waiting two and a
24:37
Speaker 4: half years to get something consistent out of you, it
24:39
Speaker 4: makes it very hard to support having him on our team.
24:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:42
Speaker 1: I supported keeping him on the Parada versus Garver decision
24:46
Speaker 1: the first time around because he was hitting a little
24:49
Speaker 1: bit better than he was, But now he's right back
24:52
Speaker 1: to being the same, just swing and miss guy, passive
24:54
Speaker 1: guy at the plate. Ye, he's not really bringing anything
24:57
Speaker 1: to the table, and john Parada did when he was here,
25:02
Speaker 1: so Garver did not have options Paraded did. They went
25:06
Speaker 1: with Garb at the time to keep both guys in
25:08
Speaker 1: the organization. But now we're down to under two months,
25:12
Speaker 1: we really need to put our best twenty six on
25:14
Speaker 1: the field, and Johnny Parade is just a better catcher
25:16
Speaker 1: than Mitch Garver right now.
25:17
Speaker 4: Agreed, Yes, I agree. I'm glad that Parade is up.
25:21
Speaker 4: I hated having to send him down to Tacoma, but
25:23
Speaker 4: I understood why they did it.
25:24
Speaker 3: I just I'm glad he's back h is.
25:27
Speaker 1: Four hitting well. I do think we're gonna hit better.
25:31
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Ward is gonna be fine. I'm not
25:34
Speaker 1: gonna say great, not gonna say even good. I think
25:36
Speaker 1: he's want a fine contribution. I think he represents an
25:39
Speaker 1: upgrade at in our lineup.
25:42
Speaker 2: I think Brendan Donovan coming off.
25:44
Speaker 1: The IL is going to is going to contribute again.
25:49
Speaker 1: But first game for Taylor Ward, and then Brendan Donovan
25:53
Speaker 1: not only his first game back after three months away
25:55
Speaker 1: he was gone since mid May for goodness sake, and
25:58
Speaker 1: then five days away where he doesn't even pick up
26:01
Speaker 1: a bat because he's bringing life into the world or
26:05
Speaker 1: helping bring life into the world. I wasn't expecting much
26:09
Speaker 1: last night. I didn't expect Taylor Ward to hit the
26:11
Speaker 1: ground running. I didn't expect Brendan Donovan to hit the
26:14
Speaker 1: ground running. And I didn't really expect much against Troy Melton,
26:17
Speaker 1: who maybe you weren't aware because he wasn't in the
26:20
Speaker 1: All Star Game, but he's been as good a pitcher
26:22
Speaker 1: as anyone in baseball. They say great hitting beats great
26:26
Speaker 1: or seeing me, great pitching beats great hitting every single time,
26:29
Speaker 1: Well you can imagine what great pitching does against bad hitting,
26:33
Speaker 1: so that's what we were up against last night. I
26:37
Speaker 1: realized we didn't get the results that we were looking
26:40
Speaker 1: for the first time seeing this new lineup, this new
26:43
Speaker 1: deeper lineup. But I do think it's coming, Ashley. I
26:46
Speaker 1: think we are going to hit. And even though you
26:50
Speaker 1: are getting to the point where you don't want to
26:52
Speaker 1: just give games away like last night and an eate
26:54
Speaker 1: nothing affair, I don't take that that whitewashing all that literally.
27:02
Speaker 1: I was kind of expecting that result last night. But
27:05
Speaker 1: if they failed to produce anything against Drew Anderson and
27:09
Speaker 1: company today, yeah.
27:11
Speaker 2: Then maybe it is just the same old Mariner offense.
27:13
Speaker 4: And I hope that's not the case, because my gosh,
27:15
Speaker 4: I was so frustrated last night, even knowing that you'd
27:17
Speaker 4: said how good Melton was and that it was going
27:19
Speaker 4: to be tough for us. I just I just kind
27:22
Speaker 4: of got to a point where I was like, oh,
27:24
Speaker 4: here I am again kicking myself because I was so
27:26
Speaker 4: optimistic yesterday going into that game, and I was like,
27:28
Speaker 4: why do I do this to myself all the time.
27:31
Speaker 4: Why is it that I think, Yep, today's going to
27:33
Speaker 4: be different. And then it was exactly the same.
27:36
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you something Today is going
27:38
Speaker 1: to be different. Okay, today's going to be different. They
27:41
Speaker 1: try to get Anderson out. I mean, he's been a
27:43
Speaker 1: relief pitcher all season long. I don't know if this
27:46
Speaker 1: is an opener situation or if they're going to try
27:48
Speaker 1: to get three, four, five innings out of him because
27:51
Speaker 1: he is trained as a starter. So but he's been
27:55
Speaker 1: a relief pitcher all season long. But you know, if
27:59
Speaker 1: you can get him out after two three innings, get
28:01
Speaker 1: into a weak Tiger bullpen. I think they're going to
28:03
Speaker 1: put some runs on the board and now we can
28:06
Speaker 1: start judging the new and improved offense going forward.
28:10
Speaker 2: Finally, eich I is for interesting.
28:14
Speaker 1: Jerry had some very interesting things yesterday to say. In
28:19
Speaker 1: a little press conference with the media hoard yesterday, he
28:24
Speaker 1: brought up George Kirby, and I believe him when he
28:27
Speaker 1: says his name came up in rumors. We take every
28:33
Speaker 1: phone call, which is not unlike what John Schneider does.
28:37
Speaker 1: John Schneider has the same philosophy. We take every phone call.
28:41
Speaker 1: But in George's case, we didn't really get past hello.
28:47
Speaker 1: The offers weren't the conversations didn't go anywhere. He said,
28:52
Speaker 1: of Emerson Hancock, we did discuss him a little bit
28:57
Speaker 1: in a trade, but we didn't want to move Emerson Hancock.
29:02
Speaker 1: He's had too good of a breakthrough season this year
29:04
Speaker 1: and it was going to take a lot and that
29:06
Speaker 1: the offers never did get there. And then he said
29:10
Speaker 1: of Kate Anderson that we're not going to make him
29:14
Speaker 1: a reliever. He's going to We've trained him as a starter.
29:18
Speaker 1: He's going to be a starter, and so he is
29:20
Speaker 1: our sixth starter right now. If anything happens to one
29:23
Speaker 1: of our five, he's the first guy that gets called up.
29:26
Speaker 1: And we might get creative with Kate Anderson in September,
29:30
Speaker 1: but right now we're still developing him as a starter
29:33
Speaker 1: and do not want to turn him into a reliever.
29:36
Speaker 2: I believe all of that.
29:38
Speaker 1: I realized that sometimes coaches and executives don't always they're
29:42
Speaker 1: not always square with you.
29:43
Speaker 2: But I believe all of that. I believe what everything
29:47
Speaker 2: that Jerry said.
29:48
Speaker 1: Now doesn't mean I agree with it all because I
29:53
Speaker 1: would just hate the notion. I mean, this team missed
29:57
Speaker 1: the playoffs by a game two times in the last
30:01
Speaker 1: three years.
30:03
Speaker 2: By a game.
30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're going to play this, we can't
30:06
Speaker 1: find a role for a talent like Kate Anderson who
30:10
Speaker 1: has nothing left to prove at the minor league level.
30:13
Speaker 1: I get not immediately making him a starter when you've
30:16
Speaker 1: got five good guys, but I got to find a
30:20
Speaker 1: role for him. I got to find a position. I mean,
30:23
Speaker 1: he's not extended past four innings. I mean pretty much
30:27
Speaker 1: is just a long reliever. That's all he really is
30:29
Speaker 1: good for.
30:30
Speaker 2: At this point.
30:31
Speaker 1: You're not going to get him to the majors, and
30:32
Speaker 1: then suddenly haven't pitched seven innings. So I don't know
30:37
Speaker 1: what else they need to develop from a starting pitching standpoint,
30:41
Speaker 1: because you're obviously not taking the next step with him.
30:44
Speaker 1: You're keeping him cuffed at four innings. So to me,
30:48
Speaker 1: he just looks like a really good reliever piece that
30:52
Speaker 1: you could use that if you have an Emerson Hancock
30:55
Speaker 1: situation where he only goes five innings and is it
30:58
Speaker 1: ninety six pitches or what ever, and you're in the game,
31:02
Speaker 1: you might be able to use It's kind of piggybacking,
31:04
Speaker 1: but not quite because you're not committing to it before
31:07
Speaker 1: the game. But how could you not use a talent
31:10
Speaker 1: like this down the stretch for two three innings at
31:14
Speaker 1: a time, even if you're winning the game, if you're
31:17
Speaker 1: winning the game, to keep you in the game or
31:19
Speaker 1: to keep the other team down. I mean, I think
31:22
Speaker 1: it is a mistake if they don't find a way
31:25
Speaker 1: to use Kate Anderson between now and the end of
31:29
Speaker 1: the year. I think I would even consider using him
31:33
Speaker 1: right now immediately in some sort of bullpen form. I
31:37
Speaker 1: would hate Ashley to get to the end of September
31:41
Speaker 1: and we have not. We waited too long to use
31:43
Speaker 1: Kate Anderson, and we missed the playoffs by a game
31:47
Speaker 1: where this type of talent could really make a game
31:51
Speaker 1: difference between now and the end.
31:52
Speaker 2: Of the year.
31:53
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I can't even imagine.
31:54
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, yeah, he could be real, man, He's
31:59
Speaker 1: on one of the best eleven twelve pitchers in your organization,
32:05
Speaker 1: and you're you're not extending him, you're not trying to
32:07
Speaker 1: get him to seven innings one hundred pitches per outing.
32:09
Speaker 1: I mean, he's almost you've almost carved him out to
32:13
Speaker 1: be an excellent two to three inning reliever guy every
32:16
Speaker 1: three days or so. I mean, he's untouchable at the
32:19
Speaker 1: minor leagues, I'd use him, you know, and then i'd
32:22
Speaker 1: work about work on lengthening him in the offseason. But
32:26
Speaker 1: right now, this team could use a talented pitcher to
32:30
Speaker 1: get them through the next month and a half. And
32:33
Speaker 1: he is the answer if you ask me. So we'll see,
32:37
Speaker 1: we'll see how they proceed with it. All right, it's
32:39
Speaker 1: an hour late, but it's coming out your way here
32:42
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. It's Reckless at Breakfast on KJAR for
32:45
Speaker 1: more than one segment. So Greg's just gonna join us
32:47
Speaker 1: at our set talks and Seahawks football, his reaction to
32:50
Speaker 1: hard knocks. There are a couple of newsworthy notewhere, the
32:53
Speaker 1: items last night in the episode that I know he's
32:56
Speaker 1: gotten to the bottom of or two since. And so
33:00
Speaker 1: we'll chat with Greg coming up at nine o'clock, plus
33:02
Speaker 1: his own discoveries that he's made out here at training
33:05
Speaker 1: camps for a full hour talking Seahawks football with Greg
33:08
Speaker 1: Bell at nine o'clock. Basically, I gave him a three
33:11
Speaker 1: hour show today, So yeah, that was me.
33:13
Speaker 2: Either did that to him?
33:14
Speaker 3: You're so cold?
33:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was really nice of me. But
33:19
Speaker 1: let's get a real little Reckless at Breakfast. We didn't
33:21
Speaker 1: get to do this at seven forty five. It's normal
33:23
Speaker 1: slot on Wednesday, and it's because we had both Stevens
33:27
Speaker 1: on who was terrific, So we get a little reckless
33:29
Speaker 1: here today. And I had a lot of different directions
33:32
Speaker 1: that I was going to head with this, but I
33:34
Speaker 1: did another Dodger rant today at seven oh five, you know,
33:39
Speaker 1: just kind of bring the whole balance of the show together.
33:43
Speaker 1: But I was so ranty I didn't even get Ashley's
33:46
Speaker 1: response to it, and so I just kind of want
33:48
Speaker 1: to summarize this, and then I don't want to talk
33:50
Speaker 1: about it anymore unless I'm forced to. I just my
33:55
Speaker 1: take on this is that the Dodgers. I don't have
33:59
Speaker 1: a problem with the Dodgers taking advantage of the rules
34:02
Speaker 1: to make themselves as good as possible.
34:04
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody should.
34:06
Speaker 1: I have a problem with a system that allows the
34:11
Speaker 1: Dodgers to so aggressively take advantage of loopholes and areas
34:14
Speaker 1: that I think other leagues would shut down. But I
34:17
Speaker 1: don't think they're shutting them down because they want the
34:20
Speaker 1: Dodgers to be an absurdity so that they can use
34:23
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the collective bargaining agreement to create a
34:26
Speaker 1: salary cap going forward, They're going to be their chief
34:29
Speaker 1: argument for a salary cap so they can introduce more balance,
34:33
Speaker 1: or at least perceived balance in Major League Baseball. But Ashley,
34:38
Speaker 1: if you are running a free agent market and one
34:40
Speaker 1: team not only has more money than everybody else, but
34:43
Speaker 1: they don't even have to pay the money that they're
34:46
Speaker 1: committing until future years, how is that a fair system?
34:51
Speaker 1: And then, secondly, in a trade market, if you get
34:55
Speaker 1: to make trades because you know you can afford to
34:59
Speaker 1: keep certain players that other teams who could also who
35:02
Speaker 1: would also.
35:03
Speaker 2: Like to have that player for the playoff push, know
35:05
Speaker 2: they have no.
35:06
Speaker 1: Chance of keeping at the end of three months of
35:10
Speaker 1: time spent together, then that also creates an unfair advantage.
35:15
Speaker 1: So you already have advantages, but now you have also
35:18
Speaker 1: additional unfair advantages that you've created for yourself. In both
35:23
Speaker 1: the free agent market and in the trade market. The
35:27
Speaker 1: Dodgers made a trade for Trek Scouble that in no
35:30
Speaker 1: way affected their future. They gave up two prospects, but
35:34
Speaker 1: for the best pitcher in the world, who they know
35:37
Speaker 1: they're going to get to keep next year. Meanwhile, the
35:40
Speaker 1: Brewers would have given up two of their best prospects
35:44
Speaker 1: and know that they don't have to Trek Scuoble. They're
35:47
Speaker 1: not going to be able to keep him at the
35:48
Speaker 1: end of the season. So the Dodgers' future they get
35:51
Speaker 1: to add to their present without harming their future in
35:54
Speaker 1: any way, where the Brewers would absolutely harm their future
35:58
Speaker 1: if they traded for Terrek Schooble. And so I ask you,
36:02
Speaker 1: I ask anybody listening, how on earth was a system
36:06
Speaker 1: that was already racked with accusations of it being unfair
36:12
Speaker 1: and imbalanced and now it is exaggeratedly So, how on
36:16
Speaker 1: earth can we not change this going forward?
36:19
Speaker 4: No, and I completely agree, I think the fact And yes,
36:22
Speaker 4: I understand a lot of other teams have done revenue
36:24
Speaker 4: or not revenue sharing deferred payments. I get that, but
36:27
Speaker 4: not to the extent of what the Dodgers are doing
36:29
Speaker 4: with one billion, one point one billion dollars deferred. I mean,
36:34
Speaker 4: you're you're not playing the same game at that point,
36:37
Speaker 4: and you're able to do it because you have a
36:39
Speaker 4: bigger TV deal than everybody else, and you you know,
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Speaker 4: you're in one of New York in LA the top
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Speaker 4: two markets, right, But they even have a bigger TV
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Speaker 4: deal than the Yankees do and the Mets do, and
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Speaker 4: obviously the Angels still being in LA but they've got
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Speaker 4: a bigger deal.
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Speaker 3: So it's all.
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Speaker 4: You know, you're already at the advantage of being one
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Speaker 4: of the biggest markets in the entire country, and then
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Speaker 4: you've got this team deal that gives you this extra
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Speaker 4: money that other people don't have. And then on top
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Speaker 4: of it, now you're just kind of playing with money,
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Speaker 4: not real money, because you're telling everybody, hey, come here,
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Speaker 4: we're good, we'll get you. When you don't live in California,
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Speaker 4: we'll pay you your money, and then you don't have
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Speaker 4: to pay California taxes on it.
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Speaker 1: And now you're the team of Japan as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, as probably every other kid in in Japan
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Speaker 1: is wearing a show Hey Otani or I'm a Moto
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Speaker 1: Dodger Jersey probably all right now, so you have you've
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Speaker 1: also cornered the market on that with a guy, because
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Speaker 1: of a guy you're not even actively paying right now
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Speaker 1: except league minimum. Yeah, I mean, it's so just grossly
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Speaker 1: exaggeratedly unfair, and it will be the undoing potentially of
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Speaker 1: the players Association's argument that they will never accept a
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Speaker 1: salary cap because I think that Baseball MLB Commissioner's office
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Speaker 1: is determined.
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Speaker 2: To get one.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I I unless something changes, I'm done with it.
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Speaker 2: I'm done with a conversation, all right, but I am
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Speaker 2: pretty fired up about it this week.
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Speaker 1: Actually, we're not done with a conversation because I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have Hugh talk about it with me.
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Speaker 2: Tomorrow at nine o'clock. All right.
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