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#153: Dalton Lauer / Newlywed Life / Finding Purpose and Self / Post Capitalism / Self Expression · Come Together with Ephraim Herschmann

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  Welcome to another episode of Come Together.
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  We're live with a newly married Mr. Dalton Lauer.
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  Lauer. Yeah, for sure.
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  Newly married Mr. and Miss Lauer.
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  Dude, I saw, I saw a change. Instagram handle.
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  That's how you know you made it. D That's how you know you made
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  it. And it feels good.
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  It's crazy. It's crazy.
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  Wedding year honeymoon in Hawaii where it all started.
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  Back to where it all began. That's that's that was the best
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  part of it all. How was a pre wedding jitters?
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  How? You engaged for years right?
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  A couple years. We got engaged on the leap.
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  The last leap year was February 29.
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  That's cool. 24 Yeah, We were engaged almost two years and
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  then got the. Man, dude, isn't it crazy?
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  2024 was two years ago. I'm looking at like news stories
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  from 2024. I'm like, that happened like
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  last month, dude. I I say ever since COVID time,
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  just like moves double the pace. It's crazy.
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  It does. But yeah, the leading up to the
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  wedding was, I'm sure just like most people, it's stressful.
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  There's a lot of planning as as a man I'm trying to do play my
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  part in helping make decisions, when in reality to me it's like
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  every little decision. Did you, were you, were you
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  picky about the about the decision making?
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  No, and that's where I fell short was like to me when I get
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  asked for help, it's like, well, what's the problem?
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  Yeah, the least resistance here, like let's just make it easy.
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  And I like to just enjoy in the moment and no matter what it was
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  whether the napkins were gold or black or little decisions, just
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  to me it was like let's just make one instead of pondering
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  over it for too long. But everything went good.
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  I mean leading up to it. My wife, now she.
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  How's that feel to say it? Feels great.
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  You're a cigar, the same man as your ring, dude.
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  I. Feel like a man now I feel like
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  I'm the next phase is when the kid comes then I'll feel like
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  even more of a man. Dude, you're going to be so
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  tired. Let's see how they feel.
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  It'll be good. We'll be tired for a while.
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  It's going to be a huge shift. That's why we're starting with
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  the dog. Yeah, it's great.
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  You know what I heard someone doing that.
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  Well when you finish telling telling me about your your
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  prepping. Yeah, so leading up to it, it
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  wasn't really that bad because I think her and I were both very
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  like. Was that laid back?
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  She's also laid back. She's very laid back, so I don't
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  feel like there was ever a moment where it was like the
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  wedding at the bridezilla, yeah, or groomzilla or anything like
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  that. And so her mom was a huge help
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  in getting things scheduled as well.
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  And she's very good. Like, I work closely with her
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  with real estate stuff. She's very coordinated.
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  Her Val was like taking charge on a lot of things.
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  And I was kind of given the thumbs up, like, OK, I'm good
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  with all of this. Yeah.
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  And then yeah, the wedding couldn't have gone anymore
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  perfect leading up to it. Dude, we thought checking the
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  weather was going to rain every day.
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  Stress yourself out about that stuff, OK?
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  And it was planned to be outdoors.
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  And we weren't going to do a tent because if they wanted to
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  charge an arm and a leg for a tent and at the end we got the
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  10, thank God we did because it really just like shedded that.
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  Yeah, anxiety. Anxiety exactly of you know if
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  it does rain. It's insurance dude, it just
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  makes you feel better. If it doesn't rain, we still
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  have a brilliant ambience setup where it really captured in a
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  moment. Yeah, I love it.
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  Dude, that the wedding coordinator, she's a little
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  rough around the edges, but she got people where they need to
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  be. You have to, by the way, Yeah,
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  because like everyone's having their like, first experience
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  wedding or like, you know, marrying up my kid.
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  I'm so excited and like, someone's got to be that like
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  that voice of reason that, like propels things.
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  Not even voice of reason, but like that, that thing that just
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  pushes everything forward. Yeah, you need a bad guy like.
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  Because somebody's got to do. It and honestly, that's what
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  they're paid for. They're paid to be the bad guy
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  and just be like, listen, like I know you want to do this, but
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  like if you want any shit to get done, like, you know, you got to
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  make this, you go do XY and Z. And so it all fell together
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  perfectly the day up. And what was really cool about
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  it was because we were doing it at a resort and a lot of people
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  were coming from all over the place.
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  Instead of just having one night where just like it goes by so
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  fast, We had Friday, we had a rehearsal dinner.
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  We're all down there. What's?
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  Your rehearsal dinner, like ours, We don't have one.
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  And she's don't do that. Really.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  It was honestly, it was just like having a nice dinner with
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  your like closest friends and family, the ones that you know
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  you see the most. And so it it all worked out in
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  Val's favor because she loves the keys.
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  It was always a dream of hers to get married there.
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  However, when we started planning, it wasn't going to
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  work out. Everything was too expensive
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  down there and she's always, once we picked the venue there,
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  it was like, wow. That means we can also do the
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  rehearsal dinner at Lazy Days, which if you ever go down to the
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  Keys, I highly recommend going lazy.
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  Days. It's so good.
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  You can sit out on the water and get really good margaritas.
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  They have really good blackened mahi mahi.
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  You mix that with a salad really good.
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  So we did the rehearsal there and we, we were so fortunate
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  because we were going to have it in like a little room where
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  pretty much is like overlooking the parking lot.
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  You see a little bit of the water.
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  And as we're setting things up with the guy, the venue, he's
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  like, oh, I thought we had put you guys down at this other
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  spot, which is right on the beach, and it would have been
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  double the price. And we're like, oh, no, we we
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  were in the other spot. He's like, know what, I'll put
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  you there. Anyway.
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  Yeah, for for the same price I. Was like, well, you booked it
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  anyway, right? Yeah, as well.
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  So it worked out and it, you know, having all of our family
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  there, a lot of people flying in, there was some headaches,
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  like literally might. So get this, my grandparents are
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  driving down from Pennsylvania just about they don't know every
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  everybody else is flying. Yeah, but because they're
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  driving, everyone's like, well, let's not Max out our luggage
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  for the weekend. We'll just.
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  Yeah, pack it up with that. My mom's dress, her boyfriend's
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  dress, my brother's suit. I mean my brother who has the
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  ring bearer son, his suit. Everything's in my grandpa's
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  truck and they break down on the way.
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  No way. Where do they break down like
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  early or like? I think about halfway and
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  everyone's freaking out and, and so at this point it's like
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  they're probably not going to make to the rehearsal dinner on
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  time. We don't care.
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  I mean, as long as they show up for the wedding, because they
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  have so many people's stuff, they made it.
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  They made it on time. They made it to the rehearsal by
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  the skin of their teeth. So funny what they has to do.
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  They got the car fixed to the. Yeah, it was.
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  No, they got it fixed. They took it straight to the
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  shop. The guy figured out it was a
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  smaller issue than they had expected, and so that worked out
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  and it was beautiful. The weather held off the next
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  day Then was Saturday, and we couldn't do a welcome party at
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  the rehearse at the venue because they would have charged
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  us for upholding the space or we kind of put it out there like,
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  hey, everybody show up to the pool area.
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  This. Time you.
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  Know and we pretty much took over the.
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  Pool. The the resort itself is, was
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  really, it's a big resort, but at the same time, it feels like,
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  like you can get around everywhere quickly.
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  And I think there was only like us and another wedding party
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  there. Yeah.
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  So we like had this whole resort to like so much fun, all of our
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  friends and family. The weekend was a blast.
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  And then leading up to the wedding by this time.
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  Wedding was Sunday, Monday. The wedding ended up being on
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  Sunday, Sunday, and by then we had gotten to say like, like
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  catch up with everyone we hadn't seen in a while.
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  Some of my military friends I haven't seen in 7-8 years, and
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  they were coming out to this people who were there from when
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  we met in Hawaii. That's cool.
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  They're like coming. To they came in for the wedding
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  they. Came in for the wedding.
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  It's so nice. My buddy who was deployed came
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  back the day before, literally landed and a couple hours later
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  had his stuff packed and flew out to Florida.
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  Wow. Meanwhile, his wife, who he
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  hasn't seen in a while, his one year old who just turned one in
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  California waiting for him to come back.
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  And so like the the way people moved to mountains to be there
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  really meant a lot to us and and showed us like a lot of good
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  people in our lives. That's incredible, man.
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  And to then have the perfect wedding.
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  Beautiful night, tons of fun. And then two days later, because
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  we, we packed up, went home, and then on Saint Patrick's Day,
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  just two days later, it was the day we were flying to Hawaii.
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  Yeah. Back to where it all began.
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  Crazy. And that alone was.
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  So very emotional, right? Yeah, I honestly riding that, it
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  felt like a 3 1/2 weeks of just like riding the best high of my
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  life. You know, everything was like
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  there was a permanent smile on my face.
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  Crazy point where you get back and you're like a little bit
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  down. You know, you're like, Dang,
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  back to reality. Yeah, it's great.
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  Yeah, man, so funny. Have you been to Hawaii?
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  Once when I was a kid, OK, I was like 10 or 11.
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  Wine style shirt on today. Oh yeah, dude.
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  Oh yeah, I used to wear these all the time.
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  I love it. My dad's a tiny Bahama nut.
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  Yeah, dude, he is like like literally walks in.
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  He's a, he's a sickness, I think.
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  But like he, he walks in. I remember like we, my dad
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  always ran his own business. So like like everything in life,
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  like sometimes things were better.
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  Sometimes things were, you know, a little tighter and like you
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  just like walk in one day with like a rack of shirt of tiger
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  Amish shirts and like 13 different colour like, you know,
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  flower, like, you know, Parrot head shirts and like what is
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  going on? Like like what is like did he?
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  I thought this was like a mafia deal or something like that.
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  Like he's like trading favors, but like you're actually not
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  exactly buying a bunk or you got off a truck or something like
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  that. I don't respect that.
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  Because, you know, you like something, dude.
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  Why? Why wait, dude?
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  Because half the time I'm like, I should have just bought more
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  of this same style of clothes instead of having my wardrobe,
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  all these random things and then I never wear half them anyway.
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  Yeah, yeah. If you like Tommy, Bahamas
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  stick. Dude, yeah, but I grew out of it
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  for a little bit. I was.
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  It was a different point in my life.
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  Some of your dad's telling me Bahama and come to Hawaii.
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  Yeah, it is. If there's one place I could
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  recommend to anybody, it would be Hawaii.
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  Go go see it because it's, it's not just a beautiful place in
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  the middle of nowhere. It is something I feel like if
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  you go there and absorb the the nature, the land, the culture,
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  you can learn a lot and kind of have a well.
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  It's not really American, right? Like, I mean, it's not an
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  American territory, Yeah. But it's, you know, they follow.
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  There's, it's very Americanized, depending where you go.
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  So we went to Oahu, kawaii and Maui, and one of them really
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  captured our heart. Yeah.
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  And it was kawaii. I've been, Yeah, I've been
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  there. You have?
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  Yeah. Hawaii and Maui in two way too.
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  So Oahu's where we met. It's, it's great because you can
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  find anything to do. They have city, they have
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  mountains and nature, beaches all around.
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  Like a lot. Of how big is the island?
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  Like big enough that you could like.
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  You can all drive around all of them in a day.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The main island, Hawaii, Kona,
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  yeah, that's the biggest island. That one we haven't been to.
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  Yeah. Funny enough, our dog, which
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  we're getting on Sunday. From Kona.
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  We're naming it. Nice.
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  We're naming it Kona, but there's another story behind
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  that. The beer.
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  It's the beer. I do it.
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  There's Kona Brewery, which we was one of our favorite like
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  date nights we would have when we were in Hawaii.
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  The the brewery was there in Where was the brewery?
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  The brewery? Yeah.
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  Where was it? Which?
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  Which? It's in Oahu, OK.
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  They might have it on different islands, I'm not sure.
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  But when you go there, they have like, Kona coffee.
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  They have Maui coffee. Yeah.
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  Maui brewery, Sweet. It's like every island has their
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  brewery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
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  So Oahu is where we had a lot of our memories and, and our the
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  first couple days of our trip, we started there, kind of
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  revisited a lot of the good restaurants and food and things
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  that we had already done. And then Kauai was meant to be
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  like our adventurous island. We knew it was a lot more land.
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  Yeah. Underdeveloped, more
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  sightseeing. Yeah.
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  More authentic. Yeah.
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  Probably to the culture and age. Yeah, for sure.
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  And then Maui was supposed to be where we kind of hung out and
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  relaxed, tapered off of our honeymoon.
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  That's like more like Miami, like the beach, like commercial,
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  like touristy, kind of live, right?
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  And it felt like that it felt very resorty.
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  Yeah. It didn't feel like it had that,
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  like, you know, that Aloha. Yeah.
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  It felt like to be honest, a lot of money goes there and I'm sure
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  builds and it seems like it pushes the locals out.
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  That's don't get me wrong, Maui has beautiful.
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  And we'll have some of our favorite memories there as well.
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  But if we had to pick one island to go to, it would be Kawaii.
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  The reason being is just like, First off, we stayed at a hotel
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  in the city in Oahu. That's cool, which is really
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  cool. You can go around and walk to a
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  lot of cool places. Waikiki Beach is right there.
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  The famous Waikiki Beach. What's famous about it I never
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  heard of? It I think it's just, it's the
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  beach that's right there in the city.
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  And so the most amount of like, attraction.
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  Yeah, it's beautiful. I I think they landscape it like
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  a lot. That's cool.
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  Keep it. And then you see you could run
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  into Adam Sandler, Cardi B, like any celebrity, you might just
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  pass on Waikiki Beach, Kawaii. All the beaches I feel like are
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  very secluded. Like you can, there's so many
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  beaches as you're just driving around.
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  You could pull off anywhere and stop.
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  And there's a almost like a private beach where it's not a
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  lot of people, beautiful views. And then you drive another 5-10
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  minutes up the road, pull off at another beach.
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  And that's exactly what we did. So we landed at Kauai like 8 in
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  the morning. We got there so early and the
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  Airbnb check insurance at 4:00 PM Yeah, we got all day.
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  It's like an hour and a half N from the airport.
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  What do we do all day? Right.
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  So we figured we're kind of tired because it was an early
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  flight. We set up late night at 4:00.
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  So let's just go hit a beach and hang out there.
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  We'll kind of kill time as we move N towards Airbnb first
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  beach. We How you?
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  Getting around you rent a car. We had a rental car.
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  Yeah, we got a rental car and the first beach we stopped at,
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  we pass out. It was it was great.
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  And we wake up probably 20 minutes later, which is a scary
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  thing because in Hawaii you get burnt easily.
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  We didn't put sunscreen on. The sun is just different there.
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  Like someone from North coming to Florida.
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  And they cry so. We pass out and she wakes me up
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  so that she wakes me up because we we both kind of wake up to
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  the rain starting to like drip down on us like Oh my God, how
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  long have we been passed out checking our skin to see if
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  we're. Yeah, OK.
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  Yeah. And we're like, oh, it must not
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  have been that long. And it was just like, they call
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  them pineapple showers because it's just like, yeah, I guess
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  you guys are in Hawaii. And it's these quick showers.
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  Like, yeah, it clears up so fast after by the time we went to the
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  car, find out where we're going to go next, 10 minutes up north,
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  we're going to grab a bite to eat.
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  Well, it already stopped raining by the time we got there.
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  So we grabbed something quick and went straight back to the
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  beach and just hung out at another beach and.
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  I have the patience to sit on beaches dude.
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  It drives me. Crazy.
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  We love it. Dude I have to work on that all
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  myself. I have a hard time sitting still
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  for like anything. OK.
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  So, and that's why I think it's so beneficial to go to these
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  places for people who are living in a city or yeah, yeah, you're,
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  you're, you're living a busy life.
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  It's fast-paced and around a lot of people.
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  And then you go somewhere like that.
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  And it is it can be uncomfortable at first because
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  you sit down and there's just nothing but nature and not a lot
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  of people. And you might not even have cell
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  service. So you're like, I can't doom
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  scroll? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  But I'm not worried about the doom scrolling, you know?
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  But anything to, like keep you busy, like compared to there.
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  And what I think it is is that the nature's just always kind of
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  moving. So if you sit still and it kind
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  of tunes you back into your senses, which takes you out of
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  that like hyperactive mindset. Yeah, that's a good way of
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  describing it. Slows things down.
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  You kind of like, have to listen to the birds and the trees
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  ruffling. Yeah.
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  Take time to smell. OK.
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  Like you. The air is different here.
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  Yeah. It feels wet.
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  It feels fragrant with the flowers.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And as you kind of sit and dwell
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  on that, I don't know, I just. Think yeah, for sure.
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  You definitely. Can can slow down and find that
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  piece. So that's why personally I love
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  Kauai because you've got the most amount of that there and
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  it's just beautiful, man. But.
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  You go to the beach all the time here, dude.
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  You spend most you spend. You're always at the Hollywood
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  Beach or Florida. Beach, right.
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  We why? We're 10 minutes from the beach,
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  just a straight shot. So for us it's easy.
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  I don't know how to be when we move to a different location and
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  yeah, and we're a little, it's more of a hassle to get to the
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  beach, but for most you have. A pool.
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  You have a pool, it's in the backyard.
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  And that's another thing, once we get a pool, it might be game
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  over because for us, as long as our outdoors soaking up some
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  sun, the water's there to cool us off.
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  But I don't mean there's nothing like the beach.
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  It's. It really is, by the way.
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  There's something, there's something spiritual about it
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  too. There's something like very
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  like, very primal about like, like the horizon ocean, you
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  know, sand, just like the feeling of that going on
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  forever. Yeah, You know, I think that's a
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  good way to put it. Even the the spiritual side of
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  it, maybe not everybody picks up on that unless they are really
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  attuned to that's their spiritual side.
• 18:37
  But I think for me personally, that's that's another.
• 18:40
  Thing I mean, people feel it. I think that people feel it,
• 18:42
  that it's just a subconscious appreciation.
• 18:44
  Like when you're like, for some reason I feel rejuvenated when I
• 18:47
  walk away from the beach. Like I feel like I kind of like
• 18:49
  stand to like live life like another couple of days, you
• 18:51
  know, like, exactly like that, like that, that is.
• 18:54
  Like the grounding, right? For sure.
• 18:56
  Like just having your toes in warm sand and being connected to
• 18:59
  Mother Nature. Yeah.
• 19:01
  The the ocean, like it all just brings you back to your senses,
• 19:05
  you know? Yeah, yeah, it's really
• 19:07
  interesting, man. It's really interesting.
• 19:10
  I I, I, I'm, I'm really curious to see as you progress like in
• 19:16
  the in like these because you're going, you're going through a
• 19:20
  lot like right now is rapid change and then like dogs are
• 19:24
  rapid change and you know, it's God's help kids whenever that
• 19:27
  happens, it's it's a crazy change.
• 19:29
  And like, and you, I think you start to, for me, there was like
• 19:34
  this really crazy shift where in my perception of life where
• 19:41
  instead of me feeling like there's supposed to be something
• 19:44
  I'm supposed to be doing, there's like, I don't feel
• 19:48
  responsible for almost anything except for like the well-being
• 19:51
  of my family, you know, and like everything else, like I kind of
• 19:54
  figure out how to make that work for them.
• 20:01
  But I don't think that. That mindset can happen without
• 20:08
  something like taking on the responsibility of, you know, a
• 20:12
  spouse or a pet or a kid, because I think that forces your
• 20:18
  brain to evolve. I think it force.
• 20:20
  I think it forces your priorities to shift.
• 20:21
  I think it force. And like a lot of people when
• 20:24
  they do like I I one thing that I've noticed speaking to a lot
• 20:27
  of cool and crazy people and even listening to a lot of
• 20:29
  people talk like one thing that everyone has in common is that
• 20:35
  the people that have done the most interesting things and the
• 20:39
  most like furthered humanity are people that do not look.
• 20:45
  Hey everyone real quick if you're enjoying the show click
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• 20:51
  much. Look at life like a system that
• 20:55
  they have to figure out a play, but a series of games that they
• 20:59
  can choose to play and you can kind of take yourself in and out
• 21:02
  of each one of them. You know, like the way I, the
• 21:04
  way I thought of the example I thought of was, you know, no,
• 21:08
  like you can't control the hand you're dealt, but you could
• 21:10
  control what game you're playing.
• 21:11
  With that hand, right? I love that you say that because
• 21:13
  recently I had some I had heard someone relate life to a game of
• 21:17
  poker like and and it's so true because you can't control the
• 21:22
  hand you're dealt where you can control how you play that hand
• 21:26
  right and just because you're dealt.
• 21:27
  But I'm saying 1 even further, I'm saying who's to tell you
• 21:31
  that that that that hand is bad? It depends what game you, you
• 21:34
  your game, what table you want to sit down at.
• 21:36
  Yeah, if you want to play poker, that might not be a good hand to
• 21:39
  gamble with. But if you want to play
• 21:41
  blackjack, that might be a much better hand.
• 21:43
  Yeah. And so I think that most people
• 21:45
  feel like they have to play one game in in this world.
• 21:49
  And in reality, there's a whole a bunch of different games to
• 21:54
  play, you know, there's a whole bunch of different lifestyles to
• 21:57
  live and ways to live and communities to live with, to
• 21:59
  check out and like experiences to have in industries that like,
• 22:03
  I think people, you know, and people are afraid that a lot of
• 22:06
  the very typical glorified type of white collar fancy tech jobs
• 22:15
  that that have been so valued in the past or losing value
• 22:19
  tremendously. And like people don't know where
• 22:20
  to turn to now. Like kind of feels like there's
• 22:22
  a collapse in like, but what do like the elite, the more elite
• 22:28
  educated class of people do now that their that their specialty
• 22:32
  feels like it's useless. You know I.
• 22:36
  Like where you're going with that?
• 22:36
  I think there's a couple things that hit on there.
• 22:38
  The the shift, the mindset shift.
• 22:43
  You have the family now. It's like, OK, things totally
• 22:46
  change and I have to really focus, focus on my family.
• 22:50
  You focus on your job or like close that deal.
• 22:52
  You focus like making sure your kids OK, you know, like.
• 22:54
  The reason? The why behind it?
• 22:56
  Shifts. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 22:58
  But I don't think that is necessarily true to everybody.
• 23:02
  I I know people who who have kids and they're still kind of
• 23:05
  living in an immature oh, I hear you style.
• 23:07
  And so I'm curious like. For.
• 23:12
  You do you feel like, what do you think actually led to that?
• 23:15
  Because it's not that. It's not.
• 23:16
  But do you feel like you had to reflect?
• 23:18
  Yeah, no, dude, it's all religious.
• 23:19
  Decisions. Or do you feel like it was who
• 23:21
  you were around? No, it's all religion.
• 23:23
  It was your religion. It was religion for sure.
• 23:25
  Yeah. It was religion, it.
• 23:27
  Gives you a good framework. It gives me that's right, that's
• 23:30
  right, that's. Right, you to really embody that
• 23:33
  right and, and carry that with you, which is where not
• 23:37
  everybody's able to do that. I, I know people who are even in
• 23:42
  my past calling myself a Christian, I wasn't always
• 23:45
  living that way. And it was when I had a kind of
• 23:49
  a change with my faith that I feel like I became more
• 23:52
  internally aware and and focused on like my household.
• 23:56
  But you know why? I bet it's because you made that
• 24:01
  like you made it yours, like the religion that you and I think
• 24:04
  everyone has to experience. Everyone that is like really
• 24:09
  strong and intentional and deep in their faith as they get
• 24:13
  older, almost has to deviate a little bit from the way that
• 24:17
  they grew up because that was given to them.
• 24:18
  And then a lot of times what makes it connect to you is that
• 24:21
  it becomes your own identity and becomes your own relationship
• 24:24
  today. And so like you're.
• 24:25
  Parenting yourself like you just kind of have to go back.
• 24:27
  That's right. That's right.
• 24:29
  Somewhere along the lines, you know you have to question
• 24:32
  everything you believe and everything that makes you who
• 24:35
  you are. That was.
• 24:36
  Or at least. Question where, where?
• 24:37
  Where is it coming from? Did you?
• 24:39
  For me, it was a big. You mentioned that about a
• 24:42
  couple of times when we, when we spoke in the past, you know, and
• 24:44
  each time we, you know, you were at a different phase as, as, as
• 24:48
  to like where you like we're at. It's always so interesting
• 24:51
  because I feel like I I'm always evolving.
• 24:56
  It started when I transitioned from high school to the
• 24:58
  military. The military kind of sparked
• 25:01
  that for me, where I had to become my own individual.
• 25:04
  I was away from my family. I had to figure things out on my
• 25:08
  own. So I think that is maybe that
• 25:12
  that missing piece. Yeah.
• 25:13
  When did you kind of sever yourself from like maybe leaning
• 25:19
  on family or friends or like help and Yeah, and start to kind
• 25:22
  of become your own man where responsibilities fall back on
• 25:25
  you? Yeah.
• 25:26
  Because I and maybe that's where like, OK, you might.
• 25:29
  Some people can have a family, but they never seem to grow up.
• 25:33
  Yeah. And maybe it's because they
• 25:34
  still feel reliant. Yeah, of course.
• 25:37
  On on other people. Sure, sure.
• 25:39
  For me, it was the military. I had to become my own, my own
• 25:41
  man. But then I've evolved like every
• 25:43
  time I had to move bases, which was like every 2-3 years, I
• 25:48
  remember I sat back and and I wasn't even a reflective person
• 25:52
  at the time, but I said OK. The friend groups, the
• 25:55
  decisions, everything I've made here, I have an opportunity at
• 25:59
  my next base to not carry that baggage with me, to not carry.
• 26:02
  Or to carry it over, if you're happy to.
• 26:03
  Carry a good thing. Yeah, exactly.
• 26:06
  And and better those things because everybody sees you for
• 26:10
  how they've known you in the past.
• 26:11
  Sometimes it can be really hard to break those stigmas.
• 26:14
  Sure. Which also if everyone looks at
• 26:16
  Ephraim and says this guy used to party back in the days, you
• 26:19
  know, like that stigma. Whatever it is, it's.
• 26:22
  Really hard to then be the responsible business
• 26:25
  professional and everyone's else's images.
• 26:27
  Yeah, yeah. Same thing with family.
• 26:29
  Like so until you can release yourself of those expectations,
• 26:34
  those projections, all these associations, all these
• 26:38
  associations, yeah, that's I think where the mindset shifts.
• 26:43
  For sure, for sure. And that's why there's there's a
• 26:46
  Jewish expression that basically translates to in order to change
• 26:50
  your luck, if you like, you're down in your luck, change where
• 26:52
  you live, like get up and go because like a lot of times it's
• 26:56
  not even necessarily your quote UN quote luck.
• 26:59
  And as much as it's listen, everyone is a product of their
• 27:03
  environment to a certain extent, and everyone also influences the
• 27:05
  environment they create. A lot of times we might get
• 27:08
  stuck in that. And like, I, dude, I know I was
• 27:10
  just back in New York for a couple of weeks at my parents
• 27:12
  house. I'm a different human being than
• 27:13
  my parents house. And like, you know, I'm much
• 27:17
  less productive. I'm much less on top of things.
• 27:19
  Like I kind of revert back to being like a kid, like a kid
• 27:22
  more and parents. Yeah.
• 27:23
  And it drives me nuts. I'm so aware of it.
• 27:25
  And I'm like, I, and you know, I love being there and I love
• 27:28
  spending time with my family, but it drives me like on a
• 27:30
  personal level, I'm like, like over here, I'm like, like, I'm
• 27:35
  the head of the Fed, you know, like I, I, I got, I, I cover, I
• 27:39
  take care of shit, you know, like, you got to get, you got to
• 27:41
  get shit done. You got, you got bills to pay.
• 27:42
  You got, you got a house that's always on the verge of falling
• 27:45
  apart with kids running around ripping it apart.
• 27:47
  And like, if you're not on top of it, who's going to be?
• 27:50
  And you know, and then they're like the.
• 27:51
  Same way as shit in my own house.
• 27:53
  I'm like, is it going wrong and let the RAC broke recently and I
• 27:58
  I honestly, I sat on it for a second and my wife is like the
• 28:02
  day it breaks. She's like Floridians worst
• 28:05
  nightmare. Yeah, dude, it's.
• 28:05
  Going to be. Panic I'm.
• 28:06
  Going. To die, she's like, I want to
• 28:08
  stay with my with my and my parents, you know, my
• 28:12
  experience. I'm like, I could sleep in this
• 28:14
  for a month, Like we'll get to it when we get to it.
• 28:17
  But like, you know, and then like you're with the floors,
• 28:20
  you're like one day you're like, you know, this is my household.
• 28:23
  I have to also take in consideration of the wants and
• 28:26
  needs of the whole household. Yeah, that's what that's what
• 28:29
  forces you to evolve, dude. Yeah, those decisions and that
• 28:32
  train of thought, it forces you evolve because it forces you to
• 28:35
  make thoughtful, intelligent decisions that push aside your
• 28:41
  present need for whatever kind of, you know, satisfaction or
• 28:46
  whatever kind of pleasure you're looking for at the moment, even
• 28:49
  if it's doing nothing like that is a pleasure too, you know,
• 28:51
  like sitting on the couch and not getting up is a pleasure,
• 28:54
  you know, and succumbing to that for the long term happiness of
• 29:00
  yourself, your relationship, your kids, your wife, whatever
• 29:02
  it is. And so I want to take what
• 29:05
  you're talk, what we're talking about and piece that back in
• 29:07
  because this is it's very important.
• 29:12
  And I think the mindset Dad just lost my train of thought there.
• 29:18
  Oh man, hang on. We're talking about being your
• 29:22
  own person. The evolution of giving up the
• 29:25
  short term pleasures for the long term happiness.
• 29:28
  That's what makes That's what forces your brain to evolve.
• 29:31
  Yes. OK.
• 29:32
  So that the mindset because we're talking about like
• 29:37
  obviously how we can like better the world, like that's or how
• 29:42
  our perspective has changed. But I think you're saying people
• 29:47
  are confused with like where we go in life, like the high paid
• 29:51
  jobs, like. Yeah, our our our definition of
• 29:53
  meaning and values, yes, are very much up in the air.
• 29:56
  It's. Changing a lot right now.
• 29:58
  This is something I've pondered on a lot as I'm trying to
• 30:02
  predict where I want to do the future and what what impact I
• 30:05
  want to have on the world so. What you've been thinking
• 30:07
  recently? I've been listening to Carl
• 30:11
  Young's, yeah, you know, a little bit of philosophy, the
• 30:14
  history, philosophies and all of this.
• 30:16
  So my mind is like all over the place with with that kind of
• 30:19
  deeper consciousness thinking. But the mindset in general, I
• 30:23
  think that's where we lack in because we're all on social
• 30:27
  media. We all want, we all see these
• 30:29
  like great images. And until you sit back and have
• 30:32
  that reflection and can kind of pick apart why it is what you
• 30:37
  want, that's where I think people will say, you know what,
• 30:41
  I was chasing something that was impressed on me or because of my
• 30:46
  circumstances. Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 30:48
  And the family and things like that are what kind of make you
• 30:51
  look a little bit more internally and hopefully spark
• 30:54
  that conversation within of what you really want.
• 30:57
  And I speak personally because going in the military, I wanted
• 31:02
  a certain thing. Getting out of the military with
• 31:06
  real estate, I wanted a certain thing.
• 31:08
  And until, like I said, 2025 when I started evaluating why
• 31:12
  was that, I wanted those things on a much deeper level of like,
• 31:19
  not just, OK, I want that because I want to make a lot of
• 31:22
  money and that's going to be good for my family.
• 31:24
  That was basically my mindset. Which is not a bad mindset, by
• 31:26
  the way. It's not, it's not a bad
• 31:27
  mindset. You're kind of masking it with.
• 31:29
  You're doing this for my family, but I know too many people who
• 31:33
  that's the mindset they have. And by the time they get the
• 31:35
  money, the family's not there because they focused too much on
• 31:39
  one area. And I guess what I'm getting at
• 31:41
  is that I think the initial thing we, we have people trying
• 31:45
  to figure out the end goal, but they need to do more mindset
• 31:50
  work. They need to work on who they
• 31:53
  are. You know, I look at myself like
• 31:55
  a like a puzzle that is broken apart and I can, I have to look
• 32:02
  back on my upbringing, not just my upbringing, my, my parents
• 32:06
  upbringing and not bring emotions to these things, dude,
• 32:10
  and then piece it back in together.
• 32:11
  And I can take things that I learned and experience and bring
• 32:14
  that with me. And if there's things that I
• 32:16
  don't, it's not like I have to blame anybody else for that.
• 32:19
  It's I'm this way because of choices I've made.
• 32:22
  But I don't want to take that carrying forward, and the vision
• 32:25
  I have for the future isn't just based off of why I need to make
• 32:29
  money for this one reason. I'm really piercing picking that
• 32:33
  apart, finding my why behind it. And dude, it's for me been
• 32:39
  monuments to. Change, but it's also the best
• 32:41
  thing that you could do for yourself because this is you're
• 32:43
  stripping, you're finding a way. Life is for people to understand
• 32:48
  life or the purpose of their lives or to try to find
• 32:51
  direction of their lives. They have to everyone, like you
• 32:54
  said, these puzzle pieces that are broken apart or like we have
• 32:57
  all these or like another way to think about it is like we are
• 33:00
  whether we like you're not like almost like a giant snowball of
• 33:02
  all of experiences. We have like our core and like
• 33:04
  all this snow has been getting packed on like in all different
• 33:06
  directions and they're kind of sticking to us.
• 33:08
  You got to like get back one layer at a time in order to say
• 33:12
  like, what was really at my core, like, you know, and the
• 33:15
  question is if I am just able, like, if I say that money is to
• 33:20
  support my family and I am paying my bills and my kids are
• 33:23
  eating and we go on a vacation once a year and we can afford
• 33:27
  our rent and my kids are going to school, then like, what am I
• 33:30
  chasing more money than that for?
• 33:32
  And then at that point the question becomes, well, then,
• 33:35
  like now that my family is taken care of, care of, now what?
• 33:39
  And the answer is that there's a lot more to taking care of your
• 33:41
  family than just giving them A and giving them a credit card or
• 33:44
  a couple of a couple of a couple of bills.
• 33:45
  Exactly. There's there, you know, and
• 33:47
  there's, there's a it's interesting that there's a the
• 33:51
  first commandment in Judaism in the Bible really is God tells
• 33:55
  Adam and Eve is to have kids and to multiply and to spread out
• 33:58
  all over the earth. That was like the first
• 34:00
  commandment for all humanity is the continuation of life like
• 34:04
  that is like, I think the purpose of everything purpose of
• 34:08
  everything. I've been thinking about this a
• 34:10
  lot is a combination of explore, adventure and exploration and
• 34:16
  nurture, care and love and like that.
• 34:19
  And, and those two points require like that same level of
• 34:26
  a yin Yang balance each other out left, right brain, however
• 34:29
  you want to call it, like the, the part that's always pushing
• 34:32
  boundaries and going out there. And the other part and that's,
• 34:34
  that's also literally liberal and conservative, right?
• 34:37
  Because liberal and conservative are literally trying to conserve
• 34:40
  XY and Z values. And the liberals are pushing the
• 34:42
  envelope and saying, well, what makes you think that this is the
• 34:45
  value that we need to conserve? And sometimes the idea is tested
• 34:47
  and fails. Sometimes that ideal is tested
• 34:50
  and succeeds and you can kind of see which parts.
• 34:53
  But as a whole that society really think like really holds
• 34:56
  up. And, you know, and then and
• 34:59
  obviously there's all sorts of factors that go into, you know,
• 35:03
  aside from what people think, what people will say, right,
• 35:06
  what people are comfortable saying.
• 35:08
  And, you know, I mean, especially talking, you know,
• 35:10
  almost 200 episodes for a couple of years, I'm definitely aware
• 35:13
  of the fact that, like, you have to think a lot before you say
• 35:17
  anything, any podcast. And like, that in and of itself
• 35:20
  is definitely a form of censorship.
• 35:22
  That definitely is like a form of hesitation.
• 35:25
  But I'm not 100, you know, I guess I'm not 100% confident
• 35:30
  enough in myself and my ideas that I'm willing to say that
• 35:34
  without any filter and still consider that, you know, that's
• 35:36
  also the other. Thing I fall in the same box a
• 35:38
  lot because there's a lot of things where like I get excited
• 35:41
  I learned something new, I'm exploring an idea and to speak
• 35:46
  to somebody who maybe doesn't understand it can feel deflating
• 35:50
  because like, for sure you go, yeah, you want to have this like
• 35:53
  methodical conversation. And to them they, they see it
• 35:57
  one sided and are not open to like kind of like like
• 36:00
  exploring. Yeah, the option, sure, because
• 36:03
  sometimes we learn just by talking through things.
• 36:05
  I might say something and then as I'm saying, I'm like, OK,
• 36:08
  maybe I don't, maybe that's not right or or like, I don't know.
• 36:11
  I talk through things that way. Yeah, that's a good way to think
• 36:14
  though. I think that being too, I think
• 36:17
  that there's, there's a difference between not being too
• 36:19
  sure of yourself and also being afraid to say what you think.
• 36:23
  They're two very different things.
• 36:24
  Yeah, to say for me to have an opinion on some on events, a
• 36:29
  political event, historical event, you know, social event,
• 36:32
  whatever it is, I can say I think that I think this like I'm
• 36:36
  not sure what my thoughts are and I'm working on this.
• 36:38
  And then there's I have my thoughts and I just don't want
• 36:40
  to say it because. I've always been the person too
• 36:43
  afraid to say my thoughts out of a fear of judgement, out of fear
• 36:46
  of maybe I could get questioned or, or it's not wrong or
• 36:50
  perceived the right way. And until I sat down, I picked
• 36:55
  apart my beliefs, put them back together.
• 36:57
  I strengthened my foundation of who I am, of who I wanna be and
• 37:02
  who I what I believe. Yeah, that's when I had those
• 37:05
  conversations. Now, I'm not afraid to talk to
• 37:07
  somebody and ask questions. We have to talk through, or
• 37:12
  that's how it should be. And I think that society has
• 37:16
  pushed us into these like, don't ask questions, like don't offend
• 37:19
  people. We're very meek, we're very
• 37:21
  mild. We're very like like and social
• 37:23
  media has kind of done that because social media has given
• 37:26
  us the, we talked about this a bunch.
• 37:28
  It gives us a substitute or texting you and has given us a
• 37:30
  substitute for having, instead of having confrontational
• 37:33
  conversations where you could just send them in a text and be
• 37:35
  like, I don't feel like people do it with phone calls now.
• 37:38
  People are afraid to answer the phone or to call someone up and
• 37:40
  just you'd be like, hey, I haven't spoken to you in a
• 37:42
  while, you know, what are you up to?
• 37:43
  How's it been? And.
• 37:46
  We've been conditioned that way and it's, I see it all the time.
• 37:52
  So where do you think that? Where do you, because I like the
• 37:55
  conversation where we're going with people finding purpose
• 37:59
  because it's something I've been doing.
• 38:01
  Like I said, 2025 was a big year for me, the end of 2024 where I
• 38:07
  started questioning myself, my faith, my career.
• 38:10
  Yeah. My everything.
• 38:12
  Yeah. And it took me months.
• 38:14
  I mean, all of 2025, I feel like was picking it apart, piercing
• 38:19
  it together. It's not a slow process.
• 38:21
  It's or it is a slow process. It shouldn't be a fast process.
• 38:24
  Yeah. And so when do you feel like
• 38:28
  you've done that? And and how do you feel like is
• 38:31
  the best route someone can go to find purpose in their life?
• 38:33
  Oh. Man.
• 38:36
  Hopefully that's not like too deep of a question.
• 38:37
  No, it's not. So you're asking a how do I
• 38:41
  find? Like how do I find purpose?
• 38:43
  Or how do I find? Yeah, you seem like you're very
• 38:48
  intentional, solid in what you're doing in life.
• 38:51
  And like you said, you're it's a mindset where people you can
• 38:54
  wake up and and say, Oh my gosh, I have all these things, I'm
• 38:57
  behind or whatever. Or you can say I'm going to take
• 38:59
  the day as it is. I know that my family is taken
• 39:02
  care of. Like my mindset is that things
• 39:04
  are going to work out and I have a plan.
• 39:07
  Yeah. Like a way to find happiness in
• 39:09
  in balance in all areas of life because you know that life is it
• 39:14
  is like a game. And it is one you can step in of
• 39:17
  and step out of. Yeah.
• 39:18
  Yeah. I've.
• 39:19
  Just I've. I've just learned.
• 39:21
  I've just learned, thankfully, that then because I've been bad
• 39:25
  at particular games my whole life and like these are the
• 39:28
  usual games that most people go through, like the classroom
• 39:31
  school or like classroom form of education or, you know, even the
• 39:34
  standard way of job of job and business, right?
• 39:37
  Like all the, I've had to go side routes with everything I
• 39:41
  had to I, you know, I've always had to find alternative methods
• 39:45
  of learning, of expressing myself, of even find, you know,
• 39:49
  even with, with work, like finding my niche within the
• 39:51
  business because I don't work the same way my dad does even a
• 39:54
  little, a little bit. And but if I don't find any way
• 39:57
  I work, then I'm not doing it, you know, then I'm not making
• 39:59
  any money. So I almost kind of had to learn
• 40:03
  the hard way by being someone that does like I'm generally a
• 40:07
  square that's trying to get, you know, that was in a circle
• 40:09
  system. And so I realized eventually.
• 40:15
  That, and this only happened, I think after I got out of
• 40:17
  college, a couple years after college was my friends had my
• 40:22
  friends did everything that I was supposed to be doing, right.
• 40:25
  A lot of my friends were very successful in the very
• 40:27
  stereotypical sense, in the sense that they got great grades
• 40:29
  in school, they did their athletics and they got into good
• 40:33
  colleges and they and they got great degrees and then they got
• 40:36
  this wonderful corporate job that started.
• 40:38
  And it's super exciting. You know, senior year of high
• 40:41
  school, going to MIT, going to Stanford, going to Yale, going
• 40:44
  to going to, you know, Columbia. And then you have people in
• 40:48
  Colombia studying, you know, rocket science and, you know,
• 40:52
  and computer science and, and, and, and investment banking.
• 40:56
  And then these guys graduate. You know, a lot of the guys that
• 41:00
  say the accountants get a job at one of these big accounting
• 41:02
  firms. They fucking hate their lives,
• 41:06
  right, Even though they have the job that they've been working
• 41:08
  for the entire lives. They did everything they do they
• 41:10
  they went through the whole process and they're stuck in the
• 41:13
  city in an apartment that is too expensive that they can't
• 41:16
  afford, but they have to be by because they have to be close to
• 41:18
  work and they can't afford to take time off.
• 41:21
  And you know, their, their life is enormously restricted.
• 41:24
  And all of a sudden I found out I was making a little bit less
• 41:26
  money at the time, but my life was way more flexible and fun.
• 41:30
  And I was like, wait a minute. Like I'm in like North Carolina
• 41:33
  this week and like I'm in the office and next week and I'm
• 41:36
  running back and forth to do this.
• 41:37
  And like, and then I'm learning like the insurance and out of
• 41:40
  like there's a whole dealer side of like every industry, like,
• 41:43
  you know, there's a wholesale side.
• 41:44
  And then there's the, you know, the, the customer facing side.
• 41:46
  And like, oh, this is how you got, yeah, this is how you like
• 41:48
  source, source a product that someone's looking for.
• 41:50
  And even if I never sold it in my entire life, there's ways to
• 41:53
  do it. Just all this.
• 41:55
  And I'm like, oh, like, I just was not good at that at that
• 42:00
  game. And like, I had these cards in
• 42:03
  my hand and I was not a good poker player, but I'm a way
• 42:06
  better blackjack player. I'm a way better crafts player.
• 42:08
  And so I decided to stop playing poker and to switch over to
• 42:13
  crafts. And I mean, the truth is that
• 42:15
  it's really hard for me now to see people in my life that are
• 42:18
  from the poker days, you know, because that kind of reminds me
• 42:21
  of a point in time where I was more of a joke, didn't fit in.
• 42:25
  Like, you know, it was kind of the guy that like everyone like
• 42:27
  liked and like knew was like, I was in a dummy, you know, But
• 42:31
  like, I wasn't doing well. I wasn't doing well in class.
• 42:34
  I wasn't like, I didn't have a plan for the future.
• 42:36
  I was like, oh, what's going to do is like, yeah, you'll figure
• 42:37
  it out. You know, like, we'll see.
• 42:39
  So there was the least certainty.
• 42:42
  And then and then when I realized that with that, and
• 42:48
  then the other thing I realized was the value of patience and
• 42:51
  time. And that happened with guitar
• 42:53
  because I'm not a natural guitar player.
• 42:55
  I'm not musician general. I don't have an ear.
• 42:57
  And so like for me to get to like where someone would be at
• 43:00
  six months probably took me a year and. 1/2 I would like to
• 43:02
  learn the guitar. But it took me a year and a
• 43:04
  half, but a year and a half of doing something and then seeing
• 43:06
  the slow progress made me realize I don't need to beat
• 43:09
  myself up about anything. Like if I like, if there's any
• 43:11
  reason, if there's anything I want to do and I'm not good at
• 43:14
  it, it's only because I haven't invested enough time in it.
• 43:16
  And it's nothing to do with what my capabilities are.
• 43:19
  And I actually think most people in this world are like that.
• 43:23
  I think that most people need time to learn a skill and don't
• 43:29
  have the patience or give up because we're used to, you know,
• 43:32
  short term tourism, gratification, so many other
• 43:35
  aspects of our lives that the, the long game is actually a
• 43:40
  great game. It's a fun game to play and
• 43:42
  that, and that becomes the game of raising a family and that
• 43:45
  becomes the game of starting a company and that becomes a game
• 43:48
  of discovering yourself. Because you know what?
• 43:50
  I thought that I was a piano. I, I love piano and then I
• 43:53
  started playing guitar and I fell in love with guitar and
• 43:55
  then I found the piano again and I'm like, but I'm revisiting as
• 44:00
  a whole new human being and I'm like, I don't even like, I
• 44:02
  couldn't even conceive of like these worlds that like I'd be
• 44:05
  participating in with the piano. And I didn't go through that
• 44:08
  whole that whole process first. Yeah, you got to take the good
• 44:11
  and the bad for what it is. Just have patience, man
• 44:14
  everything I I I I I and then if you believe in God and you
• 44:18
  believe in a in God, fate, destiny, a long term, like a
• 44:23
  universal love, oneness, truth, that that is reality that it and
• 44:28
  you know that we're coming. I think that the the most
• 44:31
  dangerous part of the world is getting so many people to forget
• 44:34
  that in such a regular basis that we are part of like the
• 44:38
  most beauty. And that's why I've been
• 44:41
  recently listening a lot to a lot of like the, you know, UFO
• 44:44
  type of, you know, UAP, alternative energy, nuclear, you
• 44:47
  know, and like all these crazy things and part of the part of
• 44:50
  the what's attractive my child. Don't know too much, you'll be
• 44:53
  the next on the list. Dude, I'll tell you.
• 44:57
  We'll talk about I want, we'll talk about that in in 2 seconds,
• 45:00
  dude, because I have some crazy shit about that man, but.
• 45:05
  But that's what life is. It's like you should.
• 45:08
  That's why you can have a more positive aspect.
• 45:10
  I've every time I talk to you, dude, you're, you're always
• 45:12
  happy and excited. And yeah, there's so much to be
• 45:15
  excited about. Dude, and that's how we should
• 45:17
  look at life. Like if you're in something
• 45:20
  that's making you really unhappy, you just you need to
• 45:24
  evaluate it and honestly sit down and say, is there a path
• 45:28
  out of this? Like either for me, for example,
• 45:32
  I got to the point of like being on my hands and knees in tears,
• 45:38
  upset at like why I was feeling the way I was.
• 45:42
  Why was I so upset? How did I end up in the position
• 45:44
  I'm in? What am I lacking?
• 45:46
  What am I missing? And even though everything
• 45:49
  around me from the outside looking in looked great,
• 45:51
  everything looked good. You know, relationships, great
• 45:55
  work, great everything, but internally something was missing
• 46:00
  and it was the authenticity of who I am.
• 46:05
  And I realized that. And this is where I really
• 46:09
  started getting into reflection through meditation and, and
• 46:12
  prayer and, and I realized, you know what I didn't?
• 46:16
  There was, there was things with the military that politics and
• 46:20
  whatever that I didn't always enjoy, but it fulfilled me in,
• 46:25
  in a lot of ways that it gave your mission to get through.
• 46:28
  It gave me purpose. Exactly.
• 46:29
  It's a family. Exactly.
• 46:31
  It gave me a little bit of like that tribal community, that
• 46:35
  people. It's more than tribal because
• 46:36
  you can see the people that you were in it with were willing to
• 46:38
  put their lives aside and sell and fly across the country or
• 46:42
  fly across the world to celebrate with you.
• 46:43
  That's not just tribal like that is like.
• 46:47
  It meets several areas and that's again, that's why I'm in
• 46:49
  jiu jitsu right now. That's how we met.
• 46:51
  That's right. That's because when I went
• 46:55
  through the process of saying these are the pillars of my life
• 46:58
  that like, I want to focus on my relationships with my friends
• 47:02
  and family, my fitness, my spirituality, my finances.
• 47:09
  And then all of a sudden your nine to five job doesn't become
• 47:11
  the end all be all. It's.
• 47:12
  Not the end all be all. And you can look at when you
• 47:14
  when you find those pillars within your own life of what
• 47:17
  bring you balance. You could say, OK, maybe I'm
• 47:20
  going to sacrifice more in this area.
• 47:21
  Maybe work is is stressing me out, but because I'm aware of
• 47:25
  what brings me wholeness, I can dive in a little bit more on
• 47:30
  something else. For me, yeah, I chose to do a
• 47:32
  marathon. That was when I the reason I
• 47:35
  chose that was because I felt so down.
• 47:37
  I felt like life was spinning out of control and and I didn't.
• 47:40
  Have yeah. And occasionally to to like a
• 47:42
  direction, like a perfect a purpose to hang on to something
• 47:45
  to. It's a force of gravity in your
• 47:47
  life that you can revolve around it.
• 47:49
  Yeah, at that point I said, you know what?
• 47:51
  Like it's not what is going to be.
• 47:54
  I'm not going to go be an athlete.
• 47:55
  That's not going to change my world.
• 47:57
  I have to stick in the business I'm in.
• 47:59
  But this is the decision I can make that's going to give me
• 48:01
  control, that brings me fulfillment.
• 48:03
  Awesome. And through that process,
• 48:05
  through the challenge and the the process of doing the
• 48:11
  marathon, I was able to wake up everyday and feel happier.
• 48:14
  Wasn't like I was rolling out of bed, like, you know, upset with
• 48:17
  things. I had something to look forward
• 48:18
  to. Yeah.
• 48:19
  And. And if.
• 48:20
  Your whole life becomes that because when you make decisions,
• 48:22
  your whole life becomes these projects, these seeds that
• 48:26
  you're watering and you're watching and like, they're all
• 48:27
  happening at different points too.
• 48:29
  If you imagine like, you know, like backyard, you just start
• 48:32
  water. You know what you said?
• 48:33
  You plant different seeds at different points of your life
• 48:34
  and you're watering it every day and like some seed just starts
• 48:37
  popping up and all of a sudden another one pops up and you're
• 48:39
  like, oh shit, I forgot I even planted that.
• 48:40
  You know, I'm like. And the fact that you're doing
• 48:43
  it, the fact that you're planting the seeds means you
• 48:46
  believe in tomorrow. Yeah.
• 48:47
  You're believing in the future. Yeah, it's bringing.
• 48:49
  That's also the purpose. That's also the purpose.
• 48:51
  To the now, that's right, you're not going to do it if you don't
• 48:53
  believe tomorrow's going to come or tomorrow's you're going to
• 48:56
  see the fruition. And that's the blending of the
• 48:59
  adventure and the and, and and the nurture and the path and the
• 49:02
  care of, of what humanity is all about.
• 49:04
  And listen, at the end of the day, if you think about it like
• 49:07
  big picture, what, what life is going to lead to is definitely
• 49:11
  more life like, it's more travelling, it's access to more
• 49:15
  life. Like, like what we're doing
• 49:17
  right now is we're living on a plane where we only have access
• 49:19
  to XY and Z, very limited things.
• 49:22
  But we're so close. I, I with nurture, we're a sea
• 49:25
  that's just ready. Like I, I really believe
• 49:27
  humanity is a sea that's ready to kind of just like pop out of
• 49:31
  the soil. And we're we're struggling to
• 49:32
  pop out of the soil and we're right there.
• 49:36
  We're finally at a point where it's like people are kind of
• 49:40
  awake to the idea that we don't need war to solve a.
• 49:44
  Problem. Dude, it's incredible.
• 49:47
  Have been through our barbaric years for thousands of years and
• 49:50
  like people are in in the West part of the country, aren't they
• 49:54
  don't know what's happening in the east part of the country in
• 49:56
  today's technological age we do and we can say you know what I
• 50:01
  would. BS is called out everywhere,
• 50:03
  dude. Everywhere, everywhere.
• 50:04
  It's. Incredible share a beer with
• 50:06
  somebody in Afghanistan who I was in the military to fight
• 50:09
  against that thing. So it's like you start to see
• 50:12
  humans as humans, not as these cultures and, and everything.
• 50:16
  And, and when you look at life that way, I think it does change
• 50:21
  your perspective. I, I've had such a perspective
• 50:23
  shift being out of the military and kind of looking back on
• 50:27
  things and seeing where my mindset was in the military and
• 50:30
  the things that I was training for.
• 50:33
  And and now it's just I just have such a different
• 50:37
  perspective. Yeah.
• 50:39
  I appreciate people and human connection more.
• 50:43
  That's everyday because that's what it's about.
• 50:45
  And you have conversations with people.
• 50:47
  Our lack of communication is, I think, a big reason why we get
• 50:51
  into conflicts. Just people not willing to
• 50:54
  understand each other, People who want power, people who want
• 51:00
  just, I don't know, to me it's like, and that's why I love
• 51:03
  kawaii. That's why everybody should go
• 51:05
  to a place where you can separate from it all the systems
• 51:09
  and the stress and the people wanting to have a specific
• 51:13
  persona and you just kind of reconnect with nature, like our
• 51:18
  roots. And you know, if you don't, if
• 51:23
  you don't have purpose in life or know what's happening or
• 51:27
  you're stressing and feeling, there's, there's a lot of
• 51:30
  anxiety and depression today. And it's because there's a lot
• 51:33
  of comparison through social media.
• 51:35
  I'm. Sure.
• 51:35
  A lot of news. A lot of, A lot of.
• 51:38
  Bad news on the news. It really dude, I went and got a
• 51:42
  new phone the other day and the guy at AT&T was like 19 years
• 51:44
  old and he's like man, I don't know like the there's there's no
• 51:47
  future for me like a is taking over the I just graduated now
• 51:52
  we're going to war like they feel like there's generation
• 51:55
  that feels lost but. That generation is going to
• 51:58
  reject the things that got us there.
• 52:00
  I have a lot of hope for this generation.
• 52:01
  Me too, because I think that. Dude, they're religious.
• 52:05
  They're more religious than they're more religious.
• 52:06
  More people are going to church. They.
• 52:08
  Have to, dude, we have to have something to fall back.
• 52:10
  Yeah, dude, the paradigm, the perspectives that have built
• 52:16
  everything we have now it there has been progression.
• 52:20
  We're not living in the 1500s where we're just like killing
• 52:23
  people because we think they're a witch, you know.
• 52:26
  But but now like people have become more civilized.
• 52:29
  Technology is being built that I think it's scary to a lot of
• 52:32
  people because the hands it's in.
• 52:34
  But my positive outlook is that that technology is it's going to
• 52:38
  be kind of you should read this into, I would love to because
• 52:42
  you read a lot of interesting things and talk to a lot of
• 52:44
  interesting people. But I think that the generation
• 52:47
  coming up is, is going to be able to kind of hijack that
• 52:50
  technology for the good. Because I hope that the people,
• 52:54
  as long as we are not forced into some oppression or like way
• 52:58
  where we cannot take, have our own control and freedoms, we are
• 53:04
  a generation that can now utilize this this technology for
• 53:08
  the benefit of humanity, not just the groups.
• 53:11
  We're with it. We have to get the bad people
• 53:12
  out, man. There there's there's.
• 53:14
  A There's a lot of them at the Hell, I think.
• 53:16
  We're about to go into like our generation is.
• 53:19
  We need to build some strong leaders.
• 53:21
  We need to that's, but you know what?
• 53:22
  That's, I think that is the that has that is by far the biggest
• 53:30
  issue in the country right now or one of the biggest issues in
• 53:32
  the country right now is that goes hand in hand that we talked
• 53:35
  about earlier, that social isolation, that fear of stepping
• 53:38
  up that, that like this kind of Americans used to be Cowboys.
• 53:43
  We were nuts. Like, you know, like we didn't
• 53:44
  care about rules. And like, you know what?
• 53:46
  If you have a rule, fuck you and force it.
• 53:48
  You know, like you're not. Good luck trying to.
• 53:50
  Keep it smoke my stogie where? You know, and like and and and
• 53:55
  but that's kind of what made to a certain extent.
• 53:58
  But and and again, I think you can have that spirit of
• 54:02
  rebellion without being a shit person.
• 54:05
  I think that those that those like you don't have to have one
• 54:08
  and be the other necessarily. That spirit of rebellion is what
• 54:11
  built this country. The.
• 54:12
  Spirit of rebellion is the foundation, I think of of
• 54:14
  monotheism, of Abrahamic monotheism, for the most part
• 54:19
  was the idea. Yeah, the spirit of rebellion.
• 54:22
  It was iconoclasm. And it's not bad to stand up to
• 54:27
  what you think is wrong with rebelling is it's within our
• 54:30
  nature. We all rebelled.
• 54:32
  We rebelled against our parents through history, you see it.
• 54:36
  But The thing is now hopefully this.
• 54:40
  Rebellion equals good doesn't. Need to be war and slaughter and
• 54:44
  and and impressing on people. It just needs to be everybody
• 54:48
  kind of saying we don't need this, This is wrong.
• 54:52
  But I will say I, I myself, I'm not at the point of and I'd like
• 54:58
  to learn more about this and dive deeper into this like we
• 55:02
  need the systems we've built, we need like, you know.
• 55:06
  Like what? So what systems are we talking
• 55:08
  about? OK, so like for example, how can
• 55:11
  we, like we all love the community we have, but how often
• 55:15
  do most people go out and donate their time and their skills for
• 55:18
  free to help the community? Not often.
• 55:21
  Most people don't ever do it so. Well, what we say is that you're
• 55:25
  paying taxes to have to have designated people do that.
• 55:28
  Exactly. And so if and so, but people
• 55:31
  right now are like, let's not pay taxes, taxes.
• 55:33
  Well, they they don't want to pay federal taxes.
• 55:35
  They. Don't want it?
• 55:36
  OK, so, but that's. Federal and state taxes are
• 55:38
  funded are pretty funded. Like I I love the city of
• 55:41
  Hollywood, like being in Hollywood as a resident and a
• 55:45
  homeowner for four years now. Awesome, awesome.
• 55:49
  They're they're on top of their shit and like you, people can
• 55:51
  complain. South Florida's cramps.
• 55:53
  They're like they're expanding the highway, they're doing
• 55:56
  construction, they're building sidewalks, like like they're on
• 55:59
  top of their game. They have these back alleys for
• 56:00
  the garbage trucks to go through.
• 56:02
  And I'm happy to throw money into that.
• 56:03
  But you know what? Federal taxes, fuck you.
• 56:06
  You know, I mean, like, what are you talking about over here?
• 56:09
  This is crazy. There are literally laws that
• 56:11
  are that are passed from both sides of the aisle that the
• 56:13
  executive branch doesn't feel like carrying out, right.
• 56:16
  And that, you know what they say, fuck you.
• 56:19
  Yeah. And so you know what?
• 56:20
  So when someone says so, and yeah, of course there are larger
• 56:23
  scheme consequences. But you know what?
• 56:25
  I think that. And the issue is that it's
• 56:29
  become so extreme that people do tend to throw the baby out with
• 56:31
  the bathwater as far as, like, what do you need anything for,
• 56:34
  you know? But the truth is, if you think
• 56:37
  about this and like, I don't, I never like the point of
• 56:39
  education, right? Government being involved in
• 56:42
  education historically has been the worst thing ever for
• 56:45
  America, has been the worst thing ever.
• 56:46
  If you look at at the statistics and the numbers of how Americans
• 56:50
  are doing in school versus how much money has been vested per
• 56:52
  kid in America as a result of the public school education.
• 56:56
  There's a direct correlation between the amount of money
• 56:58
  being put in and the and, and, and, and how poorly students are
• 57:01
  doing. So like when you say like we
• 57:04
  care about education, we have to, we have to look at the
• 57:07
  source of correlation. We have to say or 'cause it, you
• 57:10
  know, there's something there, there's some kind of
• 57:12
  relationship between the more money they supposed to be going
• 57:15
  this to Department of Education. For some reason, Americans are
• 57:18
  doing off on education year after year after year after
• 57:20
  year. You can blame code, you can
• 57:22
  blame whatever. You want look at what kids want
• 57:24
  to be when they grow up. Compared to what?
• 57:26
  20 years and that's but that shows meaning and that shows
• 57:28
  meaning in value you want to. Be a social media influencer.
• 57:31
  That because what else are you going to be?
• 57:32
  Or an. Astronaut dogs are going to be
• 57:34
  taken by AI. Lawyers going to be taken by AI.
• 57:37
  Code is going to be taken by AI, you know, like a lot of the
• 57:40
  ambition, but that. But The thing is I hope that
• 57:43
  it's. So what I would say is when
• 57:47
  those things are covered now you say and I think this about my
• 57:51
  life and this actually was is what helps me do so much my
• 57:54
  life, what process and this will actually I got this from reading
• 57:58
  about Elon Musk. What processes are unnecessary
• 58:02
  that I could cut out guilt free and everything could still run
• 58:05
  fine and I'll still be OK? Yeah.
• 58:07
  You know, and like, like when you look at like life like that,
• 58:10
  like I'm not trying to not, I'm not trying to avoid
• 58:14
  responsibility. I'm trying to be the most
• 58:16
  effective I could be. And guess what?
• 58:18
  I don't need an account now. So now I could be XY and Z more
• 58:22
  effective at rocket science. You know, I'm so much more
• 58:25
  interested in that, you know, I'm so much, you know, like I
• 58:28
  think the idea of an AI tax is awesome for all the people that
• 58:31
  are layoff and the AI job that replaces them, that X percent,
• 58:34
  because now the companies aren't paying employees.
• 58:36
  All this money's found money, good X percent tax on top of
• 58:39
  that, on top of every employee that you have going back into
• 58:42
  the people. And now you know what?
• 58:44
  Let's have a creative resurgence.
• 58:46
  Let's have a renaissance of art. Let's let's work on our
• 58:49
  infrastructure. Yeah, dude, technology, people.
• 58:53
  When people don't want to, when people don't have to do the hard
• 58:56
  labor, the bad, the bad effort, breaking labor, you could
• 58:59
  participate in something more meaningful.
• 59:02
  You know, but the this is where we're going to go through this
• 59:05
  shift with people who we've spent years and years building,
• 59:12
  putting people in cubicles all day long, on assembly lines all
• 59:17
  day long and, and people find their purpose now within these
• 59:22
  career fields and now. We're.
• 59:26
  Stripping that away. And so that's a big question
• 59:29
  I've been asking myself. As you know, it's not a bad
• 59:32
  thing inherently that AI is going to replace it.
• 59:34
  We just have to dream bigger. We need to dream.
• 59:36
  Bigger, bigger. We need to rediscover what made
• 59:39
  America, America. We need to discover that that
• 59:41
  excitement right now. The fact that we have so much
• 59:45
  UFO evidence, the fact that 12 as of a yesterday or 13
• 59:49
  scientists related to UFOs have been killed or disappeared
• 59:53
  literally and then everyone is like can't be anything.
• 59:57
  What the fuck? We're America, dude.
• 1:00:00
  What are you talking about, dude?
• 1:00:02
  It's nothing. What kind of what kind of
• 1:00:04
  dictatorship, lunatic, you know, government are we living under?
• 1:00:08
  And what kind of social media? Serious oligarchs like by the
• 1:00:12
  way, And like, I don't use that word like like when I say this.
• 1:00:15
  Social media and AI companies have the ability have enough
• 1:00:18
  money, have enough revenue and capital and employees to
• 1:00:21
  literally be more powerful than most other countries on this
• 1:00:23
  world. They are greater than most
• 1:00:25
  countries. And you know, Chile, you want to
• 1:00:28
  look at the Chile in South America, look what AI is doing
• 1:00:31
  to that country. You look that they're buying
• 1:00:33
  land for data set for data centers.
• 1:00:35
  They're taking that they need to use clean water for that, for
• 1:00:39
  cooling, for the, for the AI systems.
• 1:00:41
  They're taking from the budget of the people and, and, and,
• 1:00:45
  and, and, and they're and, and basically who all these AI
• 1:00:49
  companies, three or four of them, Meta, open AI, Microsoft,
• 1:00:52
  Amazon, they're, they're, they're basically digitizing and
• 1:00:57
  robotizing countries at a time just to extract all the
• 1:01:00
  resources. And the people are like I do, I,
• 1:01:04
  the governments aren't going to say no because it means that
• 1:01:06
  they get money. And I think literally listen, at
• 1:01:10
  the end of the day, these end of times, you know, whatever
• 1:01:13
  religion you're a part of and whatever, like everyone has the
• 1:01:16
  same common story. There's going to be a time of
• 1:01:19
  great oppression. There's going to be a time.
• 1:01:22
  And like, you know, it's funny because the you know, in
• 1:01:24
  Judaism, at least from the Jewish perspective, we say that
• 1:01:28
  the final exile that we're in now is supposed to be a
• 1:01:30
  prototype of the one in Egypt that happened in the Bible.
• 1:01:33
  And one, and you know, the main thing was like, you have these,
• 1:01:38
  you have the, you have a population, you have the
• 1:01:40
  populace, you have 70 people that came down and they turned
• 1:01:43
  into a hundreds of thousands of millions of people in the matter
• 1:01:45
  of 70 or 80 years. And like it's called the
• 1:01:48
  populace. And then you have the one
• 1:01:49
  leadership that's keeping them busy and working to the extent
• 1:01:52
  that they don't know how to break out.
• 1:01:54
  They're not even aware that they're slaves because they're
• 1:01:56
  just so focused on this great thing that they're building.
• 1:01:59
  And then the second that they become aware that they're
• 1:02:01
  slaves, they throw off the yoke of this meaningless
• 1:02:07
  responsibility that's being imposed on them.
• 1:02:10
  And they're going to search for their own destiny.
• 1:02:12
  And they're going to go into the desert.
• 1:02:13
  They're going to go, they can go to the desert, they're going to
• 1:02:15
  space. They can go into they go into
• 1:02:17
  whatever they want to go to and receive fundamental
• 1:02:21
  understandings of what it means to be a conscious human being
• 1:02:24
  and not just an animal. And then, you know, and I was
• 1:02:26
  thinking a lot about this. We are animals, like, and then
• 1:02:30
  we don't like to think of ourselves.
• 1:02:31
  We shit like animal shit. We have to, we, we, you know,
• 1:02:33
  when we got horny like other animals.
• 1:02:35
  And like the question is, what is going to differentiate you?
• 1:02:38
  And that's our consciousness. Somewhere along.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, exactly. And religion is that is
• 1:02:42
  evolution of consciousness. Don't act like the animal.
• 1:02:45
  It's a humanistic like we are the ones who run this world and
• 1:02:50
  everything else is just like a part.
• 1:02:52
  Of dude, we're just an animal in this world, man, we're.
• 1:02:54
  Literally just another species as part of this.
• 1:02:57
  And that's why I love Kauai. That's why I love Kauai.
• 1:03:02
  You go there and you feel like a part of the oneness again.
• 1:03:06
  You feel like like nature's not that separate from you.
• 1:03:09
  You feel like you kind of have that more primalistic, those
• 1:03:14
  Nick that abilities like, OK, if I lived here, how would I
• 1:03:18
  survive if I didn't have a grocery store?
• 1:03:22
  Things close there at the only time and like restaurants aren't
• 1:03:25
  open all the time. There's not $100 around the.
• 1:03:27
  He was talking to someone who keeps kosher.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, exactly. So like.
• 1:03:30
  But that's also the purpose. That's part of the.
• 1:03:32
  Purpose and that is where we need to we've had a society
• 1:03:36
  built on this like everything's handed to us, especially in
• 1:03:39
  America. So when you go get out of that
• 1:03:41
  and you you change the perspective.
• 1:03:43
  Wow, these people, they don't rely on ever all the systems in
• 1:03:47
  front of them. So bringing that back, OK, I can
• 1:03:50
  play the game of the system, I can make the money, I can do the
• 1:03:54
  influence, the impact, whatever I want, but I need to be
• 1:03:56
  self-sufficient because, and that alone would give me purpose
• 1:04:01
  because now, OK, I sat down, I revised my life, who I want to
• 1:04:06
  be, what I want to do, and, and so if all of that was taken
• 1:04:09
  away, would my purpose be gone? Well, probably, right.
• 1:04:13
  So if you stripped away your job tomorrow, you would still be
• 1:04:16
  Dalton in a very real sense because you have a sense of self
• 1:04:20
  that is completely independent of the work that you that that
• 1:04:23
  of your quote UN quote work that you're contributing to society.
• 1:04:27
  You have something else that you understand exists in a
• 1:04:29
  meaningful, real way that can be applied to anything around this.
• 1:04:33
  World and I don't think a lot of people have that.
• 1:04:35
  And that's what because that's what you could, by the way, if
• 1:04:38
  you want it, that's the next that is going to be the next
• 1:04:40
  most meaningful thing. And best by the potential career
• 1:04:44
  thing that you can do is in a time of great abundance where
• 1:04:49
  you don't have to work in a meaningless way.
• 1:04:51
  Now you have to be. You could teach people how to be
• 1:04:53
  intentional. You can teach people how to be
• 1:04:55
  meaningful. You can teach people how to find
• 1:04:57
  themselves. The two, by the way, Because
• 1:04:59
  again, I said that religion helped me.
• 1:05:01
  Religion doesn't tell me what career to choose.
• 1:05:03
  Religion doesn't tell me how many kids to have, what my
• 1:05:05
  relationship with my wife to be should be like.
• 1:05:08
  Doesn't answer every question. It gives you it gives you the
• 1:05:10
  format and the healthiest, you know, like it gives you space to
• 1:05:14
  navigate in, in a healthy in a healthy manner that generally
• 1:05:18
  leans towards continuing life, adventure and care.
• 1:05:22
  That's what it's, that's what it's all about those three
• 1:05:25
  things. And like, apply that to
• 1:05:26
  anything. And then, you know, apply that
• 1:05:28
  to space travel. Apply that to bringing more life
• 1:05:32
  to other worlds. Think about how incredible that
• 1:05:34
  is that we have that, you know, and like, you know, and then you
• 1:05:37
  know, again, the Bible says, like God says, man, I made you
• 1:05:40
  like God. You can now influence the
• 1:05:43
  environment around you. You could create life in another
• 1:05:47
  place that you would like And and you know, one thing that I
• 1:05:49
  think we lost is being able to see the stars at night and being
• 1:05:53
  able to you know, I mean, I'm shy.
• 1:05:54
  I don't know, Hawaii is like at night, dude.
• 1:05:56
  He. Dude, I look like I felt like I
• 1:05:59
  was looking out of like a globe where like just have a front
• 1:06:03
  like the sky is your windshield and you could see every
• 1:06:06
  constellation out there compared to here where like it's so much
• 1:06:09
  city pollution you don't really see the stars.
• 1:06:12
  Like that you lose wonder. I think it was appreciation if
• 1:06:14
  without seeing it. Yeah, the stars take you kind of
• 1:06:17
  past your own world. Like what's out there.
• 1:06:19
  It's it's I think the closest form to time travel because the
• 1:06:23
  same constellation is up there that 5000 years.
• 1:06:27
  Uh huh. The philosophy.
• 1:06:28
  It probably doesn't exist by the way too.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah, no, exactly. That light is long gone.
• 1:06:32
  It's just like. Still, we're just getting that
• 1:06:34
  light. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:35
  So it's, I mean that's. But think about now the light
• 1:06:38
  that you could bring. And this is the same thing with
• 1:06:40
  the butterfly effect, the the impact of the decisions that we
• 1:06:43
  make. Think about how long that rebels
• 1:06:45
  for. Because time works the same
• 1:06:46
  time, works within the same way as light travelling, right?
• 1:06:50
  As far as, as far as we understand right now, the
• 1:06:53
  effects of our action. Your interaction with someone
• 1:06:56
  positive, follow that for 20 years, follow what that one
• 1:07:01
  interaction did. Sometimes it's nothing and
• 1:07:03
  sometimes it changes the universe.
• 1:07:05
  Sometimes it changes the Galaxy, you know?
• 1:07:07
  And like, that's incredible. And that's what I think would
• 1:07:11
  give somebody purpose is finding that light from within, what
• 1:07:15
  that spark is within what makes you feel whole and happy.
• 1:07:19
  And I don't know because you've, you've you come across people
• 1:07:24
  who they just, they're so happy, they feel whole and, and yet
• 1:07:28
  they're not really doing much for the world.
• 1:07:30
  They're not doing much for their career.
• 1:07:33
  But why are they happy and whole?
• 1:07:34
  You think that in that case? While some people live life off
• 1:07:38
  pleasure and I guess really they're you don't know if
• 1:07:41
  they're happy, right? When you look in, they might go
• 1:07:44
  home and and life full of pleasure is not the same as life
• 1:07:48
  full of purpose, right? And a lot of people substitute
• 1:07:51
  one for the other. And then I think you burn out
• 1:07:54
  eventually with that too. Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  I mean, it's in the Bible King Solomon where or it's what
• 1:08:03
  attributed to King Solomon the maybe this.
• 1:08:06
  Is all those wives and horses and everything like 100 wives
• 1:08:11
  and thousand wives? Now I'm.
• 1:08:11
  Blanking on it, but it's it's the part of the Bible.
• 1:08:14
  Maybe this is just on the Christianity basis.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah. Is it Psalm?
• 1:08:18
  Psalm. No, they did what it's it talks
• 1:08:21
  all about like where it's a mystery writer.
• 1:08:25
  They I think they attributed to King.
• 1:08:26
  Psalms. Yeah, that was that was
• 1:08:27
  attributed to Solomon. And they talk about like, like
• 1:08:31
  they've, they've had it all in life.
• 1:08:33
  They've had nothing in life. They've lived the pleasure of
• 1:08:35
  life. They've lived like.
• 1:08:36
  Oh, oh, lemon. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:08:38
  You're thinking of what's the English name it's called?
• 1:08:42
  I think it's Kohela in Hebrew, but what's Ecclesiastes?
• 1:08:47
  No, it's. So maybe it's plums?
• 1:08:51
  It is. Because that goes, those have a
• 1:08:53
  lot of ups and downs. Those have like, it's, it feels
• 1:08:56
  like the Lord's on my back and like helps me conquer my
• 1:08:58
  enemies. And the next day is like, why
• 1:08:59
  have you deserted me? I'm like.
• 1:09:01
  Yeah. So yeah, I just, it all comes
• 1:09:05
  back to I think mindset. I think that we, especially in
• 1:09:09
  America are too focused. Like you go through school, most
• 1:09:14
  people at that time, they don't learn themselves.
• 1:09:17
  You're you're trying to always be somebody or trying to be with
• 1:09:20
  friends or. Yeah, that's why we need
• 1:09:22
  teachers, by the way. That's why we need teachers.
• 1:09:24
  That's why we need good parents. That's why.
• 1:09:25
  Do you ever be a teacher? Comes back to leadership.
• 1:09:28
  It all comes back to leadership, whether it's a teacher.
• 1:09:30
  I want to be a teacher in terms of like holistic side of things,
• 1:09:34
  like keeping people happy and healthy.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, but you can play that in academic sense.
• 1:09:38
  You could teach that in university.
• 1:09:40
  I mean, I'm not boxing. Myself in for sure, but that's
• 1:09:42
  why I'm getting out of sales, getting out of real estate and
• 1:09:45
  and pursuing physical therapy. I don't know if we've actually.
• 1:09:50
  We did. We did.
• 1:09:50
  You told me they were going to do that.
• 1:09:52
  Between the anthropology and the physical therapy, well, I've
• 1:09:54
  been accepted. You told me at Tim Dylan.
• 1:09:56
  I think I. Fully applied to NSU now.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah. It was at Tim Dylan at the
• 1:10:00
  comedy show that we had the last combo.
• 1:10:03
  So I'm now I, I'm. I'm waiting to find out if I'm
• 1:10:06
  if I'm going to get accepted MSU if or maybe apply to FAU.
• 1:10:11
  But so that's the path is, is physical therapy sweet?
• 1:10:14
  And so for me, it's I, I realized, OK, that aligns a lot
• 1:10:18
  with who I am naturally. I don't have to be anybody else.
• 1:10:21
  I can authentically be myself and look at you and say I want
• 1:10:24
  to make you healthy like you. Could also be a one stop shop
• 1:10:28
  for mental health too and physical mental psychology.
• 1:10:32
  Psychology was up there in the running with physical therapy.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah. But I look at it as like the
• 1:10:36
  whole holistic approach, like those pillars of life, like I
• 1:10:39
  I've, I've done the work for myself and I just want to give
• 1:10:43
  that to other people. And hopefully my credentials
• 1:10:45
  with physical therapy will allow me to open those doors and have
• 1:10:49
  this conversation maybe even someday step on a stage instead
• 1:10:52
  of just sitting in a clinic and helping with very specific
• 1:10:55
  problems I want to take. OK, I can help you physically,
• 1:10:59
  but also maybe that's. Not you should do that.
• 1:11:02
  You got to network. It is.
• 1:11:04
  You got to know because you got to you got to meet people, then
• 1:11:07
  you got to find speaking opportunities and then you get
• 1:11:09
  up and then but you can, you could dude, you could make
• 1:11:12
  especially in today's world, because there is a lot of
• 1:11:16
  science that does back it talk, you know, the relationship
• 1:11:19
  between physical health and and and emotional, mental and and
• 1:11:22
  you know, health. Down to the physiological side
• 1:11:26
  of your body, dude, the fact that your yeah, oh, sorry, your
• 1:11:30
  emotions, your thoughts trigger your emotions, your emotions
• 1:11:34
  trigger physiological changes in your body, which it's.
• 1:11:37
  You want to talk about fight or flight like we're not living in
• 1:11:40
  the barbaric days where fight or flight is just whether you feel
• 1:11:43
  like you're going to die or not. We have anxiety and depression
• 1:11:46
  and it's because our our physiological side of our body
• 1:11:49
  is not keeping up with. That's really.
• 1:11:52
  Interesting. The things that we're going
• 1:11:53
  through in today's date days, the problems we put on ourselves
• 1:11:56
  because we don't know ourselves well enough.
• 1:11:59
  We don't know, like we allow ourselves to get stressed out
• 1:12:02
  over little things. And if you were sit down and
• 1:12:05
  say, you know what, the fact that I'm doom scrolling and I'm
• 1:12:08
  seeing all this negativity, I think I can just turn my phone
• 1:12:11
  off. But my body is internally like
• 1:12:14
  processing this differently. It's creating emotions that are
• 1:12:18
  going to carry with me throughout the rest of my day.
• 1:12:21
  So if I wake up in the morning, I look at my phone, OK, it's
• 1:12:24
  negativity. I can put it away.
• 1:12:26
  But now I'm carrying that throughout the day.
• 1:12:28
  My energy is going to be lower. So unless you're intentional,
• 1:12:32
  unless you're aware of this, you wake up in the morning and you
• 1:12:36
  try and implement positive things or you try and like you
• 1:12:39
  protect yourself because you know that things are out there
• 1:12:43
  that are, that are like changing your perspective.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah. Does that make sense?
• 1:12:48
  I, I, I think, dude, I think that I think that the only thing
• 1:12:53
  I, I think that it's a great idea.
• 1:12:55
  I don't think there's anything stopping you.
• 1:12:57
  I think it's literally just a matter of maintaining, keeping
• 1:13:02
  up those schools of thought and and and continuing to practice
• 1:13:08
  and preach about how relevant they are.
• 1:13:11
  I think doing both is really important.
• 1:13:14
  And then that will help people wake up to that reality.
• 1:13:20
  I think that again, the biggest problem is that people don't
• 1:13:22
  know. But I think a lot of people are
• 1:13:23
  learning. I think a lot of people are
• 1:13:25
  figuring out, dude, I, I, I, my DEXA, my Dexa cells are through
• 1:13:29
  the roof because everyone wants body wants to find out their
• 1:13:31
  body fat composition. Everyone wants to do their whole
• 1:13:33
  body scans. Fake health and Wellness kick
• 1:13:35
  right now. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  But my concern with that is anytime there's a new trend was
• 1:13:42
  a good trend, it can and a good trend corporations will find a
• 1:13:48
  way to profit off. Yeah.
• 1:13:49
  And anytime there's profit, I think that can start to scoop
• 1:13:53
  things. I meet people now who are claim
• 1:13:56
  to be very into health and Wellness and they eat candy all
• 1:14:01
  throughout the day. We'll have a an addiction to to
• 1:14:04
  Coca-Cola, but they say they do the sauna and then cold plunge
• 1:14:09
  and then sauna like they go to a health and Wellness Center.
• 1:14:11
  And they're watching, you know, isn't it so much better still
• 1:14:14
  than what people would do otherwise?
• 1:14:16
  We're in a step of the right direction, but I don't want to
• 1:14:19
  see people get like confused in that where you're just kind of
• 1:14:22
  putting a Band-Aid over what's really important.
• 1:14:25
  Yeah. So this goes back I think to the
• 1:14:29
  scientist talk, which is I think that we are relatively close to
• 1:14:36
  a post capitalist society. We're a combination of.
• 1:14:40
  What does that even look? Like I'll tell you, I, I think
• 1:14:43
  capitalism, I'm excited. Capitalism is just basically the
• 1:14:45
  need to create value in order to sustain yourself.
• 1:14:49
  OK, Right. And so everyone is competitive
• 1:14:51
  to create some kind of aspect of that.
• 1:14:53
  That's what. It is.
• 1:14:53
  Right now we're in capitalist society where literally it's
• 1:14:57
  like a game of Jenga. I think people are taken from
• 1:14:59
  the bottom. The wealth gap is getting.
• 1:15:01
  That's a good point, yeah. And these people are putting it
• 1:15:04
  the the billionaires. They're taken from the bottom,
• 1:15:07
  put into the top, and eventually it all collapses.
• 1:15:09
  It's not just billionaires, corporations that act as
• 1:15:11
  individuals because they're given individual rights in
• 1:15:14
  America, which is crazy. But that's another conversation
• 1:15:17
  that obviously like. I've thought about that too.
• 1:15:19
  Like what? Capitalism in inherently is not
• 1:15:23
  bad, No, it's not. But it does get to the point
• 1:15:25
  where like people. Short term capitalism, the John
• 1:15:28
  Perkins who wrote this great books economic the confessions
• 1:15:31
  of an economic hitman who's very involved in this world was an
• 1:15:34
  advice to World Bank and bunch of governments and helped
• 1:15:37
  overthrow like a bunch of a bunch of countries.
• 1:15:40
  Yeah, yeah, he he said that there's different types of
• 1:15:45
  capitalism and this one's called the death capitalism, where
• 1:15:48
  you're basically short term profits over any kind of
• 1:15:52
  consequence and you deal with the consequences another time.
• 1:15:55
  Yeah. And that's basically they the,
• 1:15:57
  the, the, it's called killing the golden.
• 1:15:59
  It's called killing the golden goose, right?
• 1:16:00
  You're, you're, you're literally eating the source of your life.
• 1:16:03
  And like real intelligent people would say that.
• 1:16:08
  And you know, it's also a biblical story, but whatever
• 1:16:12
  people would say for themselves, like, listen, if I know that
• 1:16:15
  eggs are expensive, I'm not going to make an egg party and
• 1:16:20
  invite all my friends over and eat all the eggs that I have in
• 1:16:22
  my house. I'm going to have them, you
• 1:16:24
  know, carefully. And I'm going to rash and then
• 1:16:25
  I'm going to think about them and like, you know, like you
• 1:16:27
  have a limited resource and they're expensive and I don't
• 1:16:29
  want to. And people do this gas too,
• 1:16:31
  right? And there's actually a form of
• 1:16:33
  economic slavery where people are literally confined to their
• 1:16:37
  lives because they can't afford to do anything else because the
• 1:16:40
  whole world is. And we're getting, America
• 1:16:42
  itself is getting much closer to that place we're getting.
• 1:16:44
  Squeezed. Dude, Ford, I just saw yesterday
• 1:16:46
  an unusual whales, which is an amazing ex count to follow.
• 1:16:50
  I think it said I'm actually going to pull it up because I
• 1:16:53
  took it as my wife blew my mind that hang on.
• 1:17:01
  And so 40% of them, oh sorry, 40% of Americans said they have.
• 1:17:42
  OK, right there. You've seen the signs.
• 1:17:46
  The signs the Domino's are starting to tip you, you, you,
• 1:17:49
  you see our our administration saying you know the stock market
• 1:17:55
  is hitting all time. Yeah, of course the economy is.
• 1:17:58
  Great. But you see the oil prices
• 1:18:00
  hiked. You see the groceries.
• 1:18:02
  The groceries are hiked up, the gas prices are hiked up.
• 1:18:06
  People are struggling and and I and you notice that more and
• 1:18:09
  more. But you know how that, you know
• 1:18:11
  the economics of that work? You know the way that you can do
• 1:18:13
  that, approximately 3 people or four people own like 50 plus
• 1:18:20
  percent of America's wealth. Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  If they make 10% returns on their investments and the rest
• 1:18:27
  of the country loses 3%, right? The top 10% makes.
• 1:18:34
  The country that the economy as a whole went up 4%.
• 1:18:39
  Everyone lost 3%. They made 10%.
• 1:18:43
  So hang on, I lost the math over there in my head, right?
• 1:18:47
  Duh. But everyone else lost. 50% of
• 1:18:50
  the population went down 3%, but 50% of the population or 50% or
• 1:18:55
  so, went up 10%. The economy is still a net
• 1:18:58
  positive, even though everyone even though. 19% were making
• 1:19:02
  three. Percent yeah, lost 3% lost 3%
• 1:19:05
  not even gained 3%, right? Like so if Elon Musk reports or
• 1:19:08
  Jeff Bezos reports that they make that they made 10% profit
• 1:19:11
  this year and then then the the rest of Americans, everyone else
• 1:19:15
  in America said that they lost 3% year over year.
• 1:19:18
  Trump would still say, or Biden would say it's it's on the left
• 1:19:21
  to right thing, positive thing. Yeah, they would say that the
• 1:19:22
  economy is up. Yeah, economy is doing really
• 1:19:25
  just, but it's not. Of course it's not.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah, of course it's not. What's scary to me is we see
• 1:19:30
  that right and then we see the numbers at the we see the
• 1:19:33
  inflation and then we have hard, we have the betting all of this
• 1:19:39
  like, OK, now the SEC is going to.
• 1:19:43
  Gambling. You mean there's, well,
• 1:19:45
  investing is now gambling? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have Kaushi
• 1:19:49
  or whatever. I mean, people are.
• 1:19:51
  It's the predictive markets people can now just bet on.
• 1:19:54
  Polymarket. Housing Polymarket.
• 1:19:56
  Trump said yesterday the country's kind of become a
• 1:19:59
  casino. Yes, I didn't know he said that,
• 1:20:02
  but that's. He said that yesterday.
• 1:20:03
  He's. Putting that out there, he said
• 1:20:04
  that admitting that why are we doing that?
• 1:20:08
  Why are why are the people who are struggling now it's easier
• 1:20:11
  for them to bet away their money.
• 1:20:13
  We know casinos are not good for people and the people that go to
• 1:20:16
  casinos and lose the money are the ones who can't really afford
• 1:20:18
  to lose it. The house always wins but but so
• 1:20:23
  even in day trading it used to be a $25,000 limit.
• 1:20:26
  You had to have $25,000 in your account to be able to day trade
• 1:20:30
  for a certain period. They just made a past it where
• 1:20:33
  that's no longer a thing. So starting here soon anybody
• 1:20:37
  can day trade as much as they want.
• 1:20:38
  Well, if you're uneducated and and.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah, but then there are the the argument would be you should
• 1:20:45
  know not to day trade if you're if you're if you're uneducated
• 1:20:49
  and the government shouldn't be involved in regulating who's day
• 1:20:51
  trading or not would be the argument.
• 1:20:54
  I understand that, but at the same time we're, we're, we know
• 1:20:57
  that's not the case right now. We're opening it up.
• 1:21:00
  Anybody can, cannot go buy a lottery ticket every single day.
• 1:21:03
  But there's people and generally the people who are just hoping
• 1:21:06
  to win that money, they're the ones buying the lottery ticket
• 1:21:09
  every single day. The generally the people who are
• 1:21:11
  financially smart are not going to go spend their money on a
• 1:21:14
  lottery and gamble and do things like that.
• 1:21:16
  They value their dollars. But we are oppressing people.
• 1:21:20
  We're making the wage gaps worse.
• 1:21:22
  And then now we're opening it up to, well, you can gamble more.
• 1:21:25
  So of course they're going to gamble more.
• 1:21:27
  Of course they're going to take the shot because it's the only.
• 1:21:30
  Dude, parlays are are crazy. I'm watching my friends.
• 1:21:34
  I'm watching my friends gamble. Like, and you know, I mean, I
• 1:21:37
  this is anecdotal, but. If friends who have money are
• 1:21:41
  doing this, imagine people who don't have money who?
• 1:21:43
  No, a lot of people I know, a lot of people I know in general
• 1:21:46
  that are not rolling in cash are still betting or are still
• 1:21:50
  gambling very frequently. Exactly.
• 1:21:52
  So it's it's a common thing. Everybody's doing it.
• 1:21:54
  I bet on sports and things like. I can't anymore by the way too.
• 1:21:58
  It hurts me mad because I'm always comparative with that.
• 1:22:02
  So I'm like, if my 20 bucks like let's say win 40, that's fine.
• 1:22:07
  I want to spend like 20 or $40 and like still be like, like I'd
• 1:22:10
  still rather go to a brewery and like spend 20 bucks and hang out
• 1:22:13
  at the brewery then potentially win 40 and hang out at home.
• 1:22:16
  Like I think, I think the experience, the trade off is not
• 1:22:18
  like I never think it's worth it, but I told but until I won
• 1:22:21
  the last time and I'm like, Oh shit, that feels pretty good,
• 1:22:23
  You know, exactly. It doesn't like I got to stay
• 1:22:25
  away and. It's the same thing.
• 1:22:26
  I go into a casino and and and somehow I make $200 within
• 1:22:30
  seconds of being there. But I've you.
• 1:22:33
  Can't walk out I. Can't just leave, have their
• 1:22:36
  ticks to enjoy. I don't think I'm on a roll.
• 1:22:38
  So I'll stay there. And then within 30 minutes that
• 1:22:41
  200's gone and now I'm back to like, you know, And so we're
• 1:22:45
  opening the whole world up to this, I think.
• 1:22:47
  I think the regulations were good because you shouldn't be
• 1:22:52
  able to just gamble. I don't know.
• 1:22:54
  Oh. By the way, I'm not I'm not even
• 1:22:56
  anti regulation. I think this corruption no
• 1:22:58
  matter what, yeah, I want to I want to get back to post
• 1:23:01
  capitalism, but I got to. I got to piss real bad one
• 1:23:03
  second. And I need.
• 1:23:05
  We're live again. Hey, so we got we took a little
• 1:23:09
  intermission little pea break. Post capitalism, I was going to
• 1:23:14
  say, I think we're talking about like post capitalism.
• 1:23:16
  OK. I think I don't know what it's
• 1:23:18
  going to be called, right? This.
• 1:23:20
  Is the conversations we need to have because it obviously
• 1:23:22
  capitalism is not going to last forever.
• 1:23:26
  I mean, the way that it's going to last now in America, it can't
• 1:23:29
  last much longer than it is, because the way that it's
• 1:23:32
  working right now is it's basically leeching.
• 1:23:35
  It's using the American citizens and the homelands as a leaching
• 1:23:40
  the life and the resources out of them in order to continue its
• 1:23:43
  own goal of consumption and profit.
• 1:23:48
  And like there's no end goal other than just more of it.
• 1:23:51
  And like that is what? Happens when you squeeze it dry.
• 1:23:53
  You. Know so I'm not right.
• 1:23:55
  So that's going to happen one way or the other.
• 1:23:56
  It's we're close to squeezing it dry and what's going to happen
• 1:23:59
  is a crash and bailouts and whatever it is and I was going
• 1:24:01
  to be held responsible until they are or until someone does
• 1:24:04
  another Mario, what's his name Luigi.
• 1:24:08
  Luigi with the healthcare CEO. But I think that I think, but
• 1:24:13
  the way that I'm thinking from my understanding right now is
• 1:24:16
  that the we're getting soon, shortly.
• 1:24:18
  I think that, first of all, where we are talking
• 1:24:20
  technologically is far more advanced than what we have
• 1:24:24
  integrated into society. So we are capable of running
• 1:24:28
  society and creating value and efficiency at a much higher
• 1:24:32
  level than we're actually what's actually being practiced.
• 1:24:35
  That makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Like what we can do is way greater than what we are doing
• 1:24:39
  and part of the reason. We're limited by our
• 1:24:41
  perspective. We limited by our perspective,
• 1:24:43
  we're limited by the fact that people have to, you know, like
• 1:24:45
  for example of the oil industry collapse overnight, right?
• 1:24:47
  We know that nuclear energy is like clean, incredible,
• 1:24:50
  definitely the future. The question is when you don't
• 1:24:54
  think that scientists have figured out like, applicable
• 1:24:57
  ways to just turn regular, Of course they have.
• 1:24:59
  Like, I have a friend, one of my best growing, one of my best
• 1:25:01
  friends when growing up was in MIT and he got a car 10 years
• 1:25:05
  ago to run on aluminum battery, aluminum pellets.
• 1:25:10
  BMW donated an I3 to his lab. He took out the engine, they got
• 1:25:13
  it and they built a new engine running on aluminum pellets and
• 1:25:17
  they drove the car around Boston and it worked, right.
• 1:25:20
  And I did a podcast with a woman 15 years ago or 20 years ago.
• 1:25:24
  Yeah, that's alternative energy. That the, the, the point is that
• 1:25:27
  we don't, we don't need gas the way that it is.
• 1:25:30
  I did a woman, I did a podcast with a woman recently who told
• 1:25:33
  me in 2010 she was doing. She she, she teamed up.
• 1:25:37
  She's a physiologist and neurobiologist.
• 1:25:40
  She teamed up with an engineering professor and using
• 1:25:43
  a lot. You using this kind of hat,
• 1:25:45
  metal hat with like using EEG waves, they were able to control
• 1:25:49
  and pilot drones completely using their minds.
• 1:25:53
  This was in 2010. We're in 2026.
• 1:25:55
  You're telling me that we know that, that, that this technology
• 1:25:58
  isn't available. So then so, so with robotics and
• 1:26:01
  AI being where they are, especially when you can melt
• 1:26:03
  them, that's going to create unprecedented wealth because
• 1:26:08
  it's all time cheap to create infinitely more value.
• 1:26:12
  And hopefully nuclear alternative energy is the same
• 1:26:15
  thing. Yeah, Hopefully more people with
• 1:26:17
  mindsets, I guess like us, are able to capitalize on these.
• 1:26:22
  Well, we have so I think that what's happening with a lot of
• 1:26:24
  the scientists that are being killed is that there hold back
• 1:26:28
  to science. There is hold right, right,
• 1:26:30
  right. We're holding back.
• 1:26:32
  We're holding back progress right now.
• 1:26:34
  We're living in a world that ever.
• 1:26:36
  Since what was it like people who were like inventing things
• 1:26:41
  and then like those ideas never yeah, they fell flat or never
• 1:26:44
  went anywhere and people like this could have changed things
• 1:26:46
  but yes. Because it would revolutionize 1
• 1:26:49
  area and destroy another and. And by the way, right.
• 1:26:52
  And at what expense? And is the trade off worth it
• 1:26:55
  and for what? And a lot of times so, but when
• 1:26:57
  everything becomes so cheap, when energy becomes so cheap
• 1:27:01
  that it just can't be contained anymore, when robotics and
• 1:27:04
  engineering and AI come together to create mass again, we don't
• 1:27:09
  think about the bread we buying the store.
• 1:27:11
  We're not going to think about the houses that we have to own.
• 1:27:13
  Like we're going to think like that's just going to be cheap
• 1:27:16
  and easy. That's just, and like it could
• 1:27:17
  be good, it could be durable. But you know, what could be the
• 1:27:20
  new renaissance now that you could build a house for almost
• 1:27:24
  nothing? What kind of house do you want
• 1:27:27
  is ever going to live in the same 2 by 4?
• 1:27:29
  You know, I mean, have you have you gone to hung out in those
• 1:27:32
  gated communities in Orlando where all the houses are all the
• 1:27:34
  same thing, like champions gate or Indian Creek or anything like
• 1:27:37
  that? They're all the same shit,
• 1:27:38
  right? Like are you going to live in a
• 1:27:39
  copy paste world like that's kind of dystopian or like a
• 1:27:43
  potential for all this creativity?
• 1:27:44
  I want my your house is going to be on the beach with Hawaii and
• 1:27:48
  you know, with all this incredible nature and it's going
• 1:27:49
  to reflect you. You have your universe.
• 1:27:52
  Though, I mean, look at the we, I'm selling houses from the 50s,
• 1:27:55
  sixties that people want to just like, okay, we're going to
• 1:27:59
  completely remodel this. We're going to make it the same
• 1:28:01
  as the last house that sold for this amount to copy that.
• 1:28:04
  We're all white kids. That's only.
• 1:28:07
  Because you're being driven by the need to copy the thing that
• 1:28:11
  made money. What do you need?
• 1:28:12
  A. Copy for you.
• 1:28:13
  Look, back in the day, people would paint their houses crazy
• 1:28:16
  colors. Yeah, you used to have a, a pink
• 1:28:18
  bath. Yeah, dude, people would make
• 1:28:21
  things. Remember the house you showed me
• 1:28:22
  next door with the with? The blue and like it beta it was
• 1:28:26
  functional to them, it was to their liking.
• 1:28:28
  Now we all have to think about how do I make this for the next?
• 1:28:32
  Person You ever read The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand?
• 1:28:36
  I didn't realize what a controversial book it is and I
• 1:28:38
  still don't really get why it is, but it's an incredible,
• 1:28:41
  incredible book. And I mean, I, I don't agree
• 1:28:45
  with all of what she does in the book, but I think that that it's
• 1:28:49
  a remarkable work of philosophy fiction and like, it really
• 1:28:53
  makes you think about your life. What is it called?
• 1:28:54
  It's called The Fountainhead. It's a little bit slow to start.
• 1:28:58
  It was written I think in the 50s or maybe the 40s by Ayn Rand
• 1:29:01
  AYNRAND. And she was a really, really
• 1:29:06
  interesting character. Sure.
• 1:29:09
  Atlas Shrugged 2, which you may have heard of, these are like,
• 1:29:13
  yeah, these are crazy books. And she was like super anti
• 1:29:15
  communist came from I think a Russian like communist, you
• 1:29:18
  know, came from communist the USSR and like loved capitalism.
• 1:29:22
  But one thing that she believed was like Objectivism and
• 1:29:24
  basically that everyone is their own little world and like should
• 1:29:29
  pursue their meaning. And that's how we should
• 1:29:31
  approach each other is like, hey, like now how do you fit
• 1:29:34
  into my purse paradigm? But I should want to ask you
• 1:29:38
  questions and get something about you and you and and see
• 1:29:41
  what's going on in your world. But I don't know we.
• 1:29:44
  So you think that the the fact that kids want to be
• 1:29:48
  influencers, a big part of being an influencer is having that
• 1:29:51
  kind of access to information. You think that there's a desire
• 1:29:54
  for like more information that makes kids want to be like in
• 1:29:58
  this world. Do you think it's purely like
• 1:30:00
  ego? Like I want to be famous.
• 1:30:01
  I want like a million likes on TikTok or Twitter or whatever.
• 1:30:03
  It is both. Both I think you think there's
• 1:30:07
  like, I think there's a huge pressure around kids to be able
• 1:30:11
  to, to be known on social media. Like that is the go to.
• 1:30:16
  You get things from social media.
• 1:30:18
  You kind of find your if, if for somebody who's maybe not as
• 1:30:21
  accepted in the school they're in, they can they can be
• 1:30:26
  accepted online, they can find their niche online, like things
• 1:30:30
  like that. There's always the good side and
• 1:30:32
  the bad side, dude. Social media has has given us a
• 1:30:35
  wealth of information, but at the same time, you can get lost
• 1:30:38
  in that, the fact that there's so much information.
• 1:30:43
  It's tough because I see the goods and the bads.
• 1:30:46
  I think we need, I think. We need more leaders.
• 1:30:51
  We need. That's going to be if you come,
• 1:30:54
  if it comes down to I think it's educational.
• 1:30:56
  Behall, we need the kids to know that this is a very You're
• 1:31:01
  growing up in a time that resources and information are
• 1:31:05
  indisposable at your fingertips, and you can do so much, the
• 1:31:10
  opportunities are limited. That's why we need personalized
• 1:31:12
  education, dude. But you have to know that you
• 1:31:15
  can get lost in that too, and that you can be very easily
• 1:31:20
  influenced and. You get misdirected for sure.
• 1:31:27
  So we need people who know how to teach that foundation they
• 1:31:30
  need. Free thinking.
• 1:31:31
  Households that are whole, yeah, not, not broken up and divorced
• 1:31:34
  households and the divorce rates climbing.
• 1:31:36
  Dude it's over 55% or something like.
• 1:31:38
  That way. But it's definitely higher than
• 1:31:40
  that that these days. And it exactly and so.
• 1:31:43
  And that's among the people that are even getting married.
• 1:31:45
  Yeah, which is decreasing as well.
• 1:31:47
  Is that people having kids decreasing as well?
• 1:31:50
  So if there are people who are focused on profit and only
• 1:31:55
  profit, and they are aware of this, just like we're aware of
• 1:31:58
  this, they can, it can be manipulated as well as it can.
• 1:32:01
  Be it's not just profit, by the way, it's any because you
• 1:32:03
  mentioned it before in life, it's anything.
• 1:32:05
  And if you are one, if you're just uniformly focused on one
• 1:32:09
  thing, you're screwed. You can't be you got to be
• 1:32:13
  well-rounded. You can't know no one's a one
• 1:32:16
  person person. And like, listen, the Elon Musks
• 1:32:19
  and the Steve Jobs of the world and the Jeff Bezos of the world,
• 1:32:22
  They're fucked up people. Yeah, you know, like they're not
• 1:32:25
  I I wouldn't they're they're they're definitely not all good,
• 1:32:29
  but far from it. They're definitely complicated.
• 1:32:31
  They're definitely broken and hurt in a lot of different deep
• 1:32:34
  ways, and a lot of them will even probably attribute their
• 1:32:38
  success to their pay to, to to the, to the fact that they're
• 1:32:41
  broken. Like I'm Elon Musk needs to be a
• 1:32:44
  broken person to sleep under his desk at every job and every
• 1:32:49
  company he goes to, even though he has upwards of $100 million.
• 1:32:52
  I look at it this way and I and I learned this from David
• 1:32:55
  Goggins through Fitness. David Goggins is a crazy guy.
• 1:32:59
  Do you know who he is? Yeah, of course.
• 1:33:00
  He's he's crazy. We're aspiring to be David
• 1:33:03
  Goggins, but he carries the torch and pushes the boundaries
• 1:33:06
  further to show us that we can do a little bit more.
• 1:33:10
  So baby Goggins, I'm not, I don't think his.
• 1:33:13
  He's living a balanced life, you know, he's.
• 1:33:15
  He's not living a balanced life, but his job, but by the way, but
• 1:33:18
  his role could be. It's a it.
• 1:33:20
  Doesn't happen to others. Yes, and we need people like
• 1:33:23
  that and and, but we don't need people like that controlling
• 1:33:26
  everything. But we need to respect.
• 1:33:29
  They need to be the teachers. They're teachers in their own
• 1:33:32
  sense exactly, But we need to be able to be our own person to be
• 1:33:35
  able to say we can take from that and not have to be just
• 1:33:38
  that. If I'm listening to people, this
• 1:33:42
  world is right now, we're full of these motivational coaches
• 1:33:47
  and everybody's online telling you how to live your life and
• 1:33:50
  following that, you know, you need to be able to follow that
• 1:33:53
  and take pieces of it without letting that be your whole
• 1:33:57
  persona to like to replicate that.
• 1:34:01
  But if we'd I like, if you grow up in a broken household or, or
• 1:34:04
  you're somebody who I think is easily influenced, sometimes
• 1:34:07
  you're you're too susceptible to that.
• 1:34:10
  And we're all and people are doom scrolling these days.
• 1:34:13
  So it's like they're highly susceptible.
• 1:34:15
  To me, yeah, yeah, yeah, we need, yeah, yeah, we need to
• 1:34:19
  keep better. Leaders.
• 1:34:20
  We need to keep, we need better education, we need better
• 1:34:22
  leaders. Dude, you should.
• 1:34:24
  There's a couple of Billy Strings songs you could check
• 1:34:26
  out. Put me on dude.
• 1:34:27
  I love Billy Strings, dude. It's sending me the best songs
• 1:34:30
  with Billy Strings. And it's funny because just as
• 1:34:33
  you put me on Billy String that I started listening to him.
• 1:34:36
  He covered the devil went down to Georgia.
• 1:34:37
  Dude favorite. Songs growing up, it's like that
• 1:34:41
  song Devil went down to Georgia. Zach Brown is a good version a
• 1:34:45
  good version of the two. Does he?
• 1:34:46
  Oh, I have to listen to that too.
• 1:34:48
  The original 1. I don't know what it is my but I
• 1:34:51
  remember core memory. My dad would sing that song like
• 1:34:57
  it would come on. It was like a hype song to him.
• 1:34:59
  So like I remember that. It brings me back to that.
• 1:35:01
  Charlie Daniels Band. And then so yeah, so then I'm
• 1:35:04
  looking up Billy Strings and I see he that day like I'm leaving
• 1:35:08
  the. House.
• 1:35:09
  And I'm like. Oh, this is sad.
• 1:35:11
  Yeah, so funny. He has a great song called
• 1:35:14
  Wargasm which is I think I listened to.
• 1:35:16
  That I think you told me about. That which is crazy.
• 1:35:19
  And then there was one called Leaders, which is also similar.
• 1:35:23
  And it's funny because it's a, it feels like a genuine
• 1:35:28
  grassroots movement where it's not real.
• 1:35:31
  Like there's no, I'm really, there's a podcasting I'm doing
• 1:35:36
  soon. I'm reading this book that this
• 1:35:37
  guy wrote about basically political polarization and why
• 1:35:40
  everything is so extreme. I did a podcast with another
• 1:35:45
  guy, Jim Thurber, that talked about it a little bit.
• 1:35:47
  He talked about lobbying too, which is really interesting.
• 1:35:50
  But one thing that happened was as it used to be that everyone
• 1:35:57
  kind of had the same values, and then the difference would be the
• 1:36:00
  policies as to what the best way to implement those values were.
• 1:36:04
  And then values started getting split up with party lines too.
• 1:36:08
  So like things like immigration and things like, I would things
• 1:36:18
  like, like immigration would kind of be like mutually agreed
• 1:36:21
  on like by everyone. Like I don't know if you'd ever
• 1:36:23
  saw videos of like Hillary or Obama talking about immigration
• 1:36:26
  like relative to Trump. But like, you know, like at the
• 1:36:29
  time that was like a universal opinion.
• 1:36:31
  Like Americans had a perspective on immigration.
• 1:36:33
  And then like the question became a matter of policy, where
• 1:36:36
  what money should go where? How do you, how do you, what's
• 1:36:37
  the best way to deal with it? And that's kind of where you got
• 1:36:39
  split up between left and right. And now the question is, is
• 1:36:42
  immigration a problem, period, Yes or no, You know?
• 1:36:45
  And then those become party lines and that.
• 1:36:47
  And so the conversations become inherently more extreme because
• 1:36:50
  they're more about morals and ethics and stuff like that
• 1:36:54
  rather than just what a policy. Is and and as we failed over the
• 1:36:58
  years, like that becomes solidified.
• 1:37:00
  And you know, dude, it wasn't that long ago when segregation
• 1:37:04
  was a thing, when women had no rights, like, but we look back
• 1:37:07
  on, you could look back at commercials in the 2000s and be
• 1:37:10
  like, Oh my gosh. We have as we.
• 1:37:13
  Said on TV. Yeah, and that's because the the
• 1:37:15
  world was, not that the world was.
• 1:37:18
  We're moving in a better direction and that goes without
• 1:37:23
  saying. Just looking over the years,
• 1:37:25
  yeah. And so that's why that I think
• 1:37:27
  we can have a positive outlook. I think so too.
• 1:37:30
  And these important, these conversations are important.
• 1:37:35
  We need just need. We just need people to connect
• 1:37:37
  more, get off the phones, talk in person.
• 1:37:40
  Realize I saw something the other day.
• 1:37:42
  It was like it was a phone in like a public phone in a
• 1:37:48
  Republican state, in a public phone in a Democrat state.
• 1:37:50
  And they could just pick it up like the sign above it said,
• 1:37:54
  speak to basically the other party.
• 1:37:56
  And they recorded what the conversations were.
• 1:37:58
  And many of them were positive. They had this positive
• 1:38:01
  conversation. There was like very little
• 1:38:04
  actual arguing. But then you go on social media
• 1:38:06
  and you see this in the news and everything is so polarized.
• 1:38:10
  It's also, by the way, I don't know if you ever had the
• 1:38:12
  experience, but like posting something where like you get a
• 1:38:15
  lot of like get a lot of shit for it, like a lot of like
• 1:38:18
  vehemently negative responses. Celebrities.
• 1:38:21
  It's crazy reading comments, dude.
• 1:38:23
  They're like, I don't, I can't. Read not I, I I I Yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:27
  I've been posting everyday to try and build the podcast and
• 1:38:29
  build the presents online. I love it.
• 1:38:31
  Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. It takes a lot of work, man.
• 1:38:35
  It's fun, but it's actually, it's actually funny.
• 1:38:37
  It doesn't take a ton of work for me.
• 1:38:38
  It's my, my wife edits the videos.
• 1:38:41
  I just record them quickly. She tells me if it's a shit take
• 1:38:43
  or not. And then and then she edits them
• 1:38:46
  and then I post them. But I know the master.
• 1:38:50
  Master Oh, dude, dude, she yeah, yeah, sometimes, sometimes
• 1:38:54
  she'll ask me for like, I don't know what to put for like when
• 1:38:56
  you're saying this as a visual, but like generally like she's
• 1:38:59
  awesome like. Yeah, I know their videos are
• 1:39:01
  great. I love them.
• 1:39:02
  I, I remember like when you first started doing it and I
• 1:39:05
  think it's, I think it's. Yeah, dude, it's.
• 1:39:08
  Because I'm on Instagram much more than I'm checking out on
• 1:39:12
  Spotify. So.
• 1:39:13
  But then you post something like that and I see, oh, that's
• 1:39:15
  interesting. Yeah.
• 1:39:16
  And then I go listen to the podcast.
• 1:39:18
  That's awesome. You know, that's the goal.
• 1:39:19
  Definitely helps. That's the goal.
• 1:39:21
  Gotta get there, man. Gotta get there.
• 1:39:23
  All right, Should we wrap this up, dude?
• 1:39:25
  We should wrap this up. Yeah.
• 1:39:27
  Let me know first what are like 2 books that you're reading or
• 1:39:32
  suggests that I read. I'm right now I've been doing
• 1:39:35
  the philosophy. I think so so.
• 1:39:39
  Do you want to keep going down that track?
• 1:39:41
  Do you want to break from? It I might want to break from
• 1:39:43
  it, yeah. So I'll give you a book called
• 1:39:45
  Empire of AI by a woman named Karen Howe in San from San
• 1:39:48
  Francisco. I have a copy of it.
• 1:39:49
  I finished it OK. I don't know if you prefer hard
• 1:39:53
  copies or listening audiobooks or this sounds.
• 1:39:55
  Just very aligning because I'm going to the Ted X in Miami up
• 1:39:59
  and it's all about future of humanity and AI.
• 1:40:02
  There you go. That one I think was really
• 1:40:07
  cool. I enjoyed that one.
• 1:40:12
  I read a really crazy book called Empire of Pain about that
• 1:40:17
  one's about the Sackler family. And I don't know if you know
• 1:40:20
  Sackler is, but they're Purdue Pharma and they're behind
• 1:40:25
  Oxycontin and they're behind Valium and they're behind and
• 1:40:28
  they actually started. This is an incredible story that
• 1:40:31
  they, that Arthur Sackler, who started the company in like the
• 1:40:35
  early 1900s, was a psychiatrist, I believe.
• 1:40:39
  And he started his, he started looking into pharmaceuticals
• 1:40:44
  because he wanted to find a more humane way to deal with patients
• 1:40:48
  and mental asylums then lobotomies and electroshock
• 1:40:51
  therapy. So he started for like this
• 1:40:53
  incredible purpose, like he like.
• 1:40:55
  And how it changed. And then over time it turned
• 1:40:57
  into, and then in order to, and then, and then he kind of, he,
• 1:41:01
  he's the person that melded the world of marketing and the world
• 1:41:05
  of pharmaceuticals. He created that industry, he
• 1:41:09
  created that world. And he's, and what he did was
• 1:41:13
  they would do research and development, create a drug.
• 1:41:17
  He funded medical journals. So the medical journals would
• 1:41:20
  review the drugs that he was manufacturing and developing and
• 1:41:23
  then? Like peer reviewing kind of
• 1:41:25
  thing. Yeah, basically given, you know,
• 1:41:28
  a medical clear to go like by a group of doctors that he would
• 1:41:33
  he would fund, he would fund the research and then say hey, by
• 1:41:35
  the way, we're sending over this new painkiller that we're
• 1:41:38
  working on, you know, let us know what you think of it.
• 1:41:41
  Obviously, you know, you're going to think of it, you're
• 1:41:43
  funding the research you have to let you know and then and then
• 1:41:47
  they hired the salespeople to actually push doctors to act to
• 1:41:50
  prescribe that version of their medication rather And so he.
• 1:41:54
  So is he like giving insight on the industry like?
• 1:41:57
  You see how the you can see how the entire prescription drug
• 1:42:02
  epidemic happened at its root, stripped away piece by piece
• 1:42:09
  following a very clear timeline in history with one company that
• 1:42:13
  that's that created a playbook for it.
• 1:42:15
  And so and and is that kind of thing still going on to this?
• 1:42:18
  Day, dude, yeah, OK, everyone's been there's another book that I
• 1:42:22
  read called American Cartel and that was about the, the
• 1:42:27
  painkiller industry in general. And that was about the
• 1:42:31
  government and the DEA trying to hold them responsible.
• 1:42:35
  And the book was published before one of the while the one
• 1:42:37
  of the biggest cases of all time was going on.
• 1:42:40
  And I looked up what happened after and they, the, the, the,
• 1:42:45
  the, the, the big pharma companies won the case.
• 1:42:48
  Because I've heard people say like at the end of the day,
• 1:42:50
  hospitals are a business or like a business hospitals like you
• 1:42:53
  don't like at the end of the day, I don't want to believe it
• 1:42:56
  doesn't go into believe that everything is.
• 1:42:58
  Like don't, don't look if you don't want to believe it, don't
• 1:43:00
  look but this, but this, but this, but this isn't, this isn't
• 1:43:05
  this isn't about hospitals in particular.
• 1:43:06
  That's like the that's the Medicare system.
• 1:43:09
  This is talking about like the drug, the drug addiction,
• 1:43:12
  fentanyl pills, addiction, back pain, like why it's struck
• 1:43:16
  specifically, you know, like the fly over states, like rural
• 1:43:20
  America, because the hard work, you know, the people that are
• 1:43:22
  working with their hands working, working, you know,
• 1:43:27
  engineers or plumbers or electricians or mechanics that
• 1:43:32
  hurt their backs but can't afford to stop working or the
• 1:43:36
  people that would get hooked. These pills, some of these pills
• 1:43:40
  were strong enough and that they were essentially every pill was
• 1:43:45
  a hit of heroin. You're literally taking the
• 1:43:49
  you're taking a hit of heroin. So people are are addicted to a
• 1:43:52
  drug as strong and as addictive as heroin.
• 1:43:54
  And they're, and they're just getting and they're just
• 1:43:56
  following the doctor's prescriptions, But the doctor's
• 1:43:58
  prescribing it because the salesperson is coming in, taking
• 1:44:00
  them out to dinner, you know, giving them a, you know, giving
• 1:44:03
  them a gift. You know, a hot a hot blonde
• 1:44:06
  woman that's paying attention to the doctor for the first time in
• 1:44:08
  his life is walking in his office and wow, the.
• 1:44:11
  Book's exposing that kind. Of stuff, dude, everything.
• 1:44:13
  Because people don't know. That's not like a normal thing
• 1:44:15
  that you would think of is happening.
• 1:44:18
  The painkiller industry is crazy.
• 1:44:21
  Wow, so that's called Empire. Of Empire of Pain Pain by
• 1:44:25
  Patrick Something. So is that like a series like
• 1:44:28
  you said? This one, the first one was
• 1:44:29
  Empire of AI. Then there's Empire.
• 1:44:31
  Oh no, there's just two different, 2 totally different
• 1:44:33
  books with just the same name you just like, but yeah, yeah,
• 1:44:35
  yeah, dude. Because you know what?
• 1:44:39
  And it's very interesting the way that the the way I bought
• 1:44:41
  Empire of Pain was because I heard her on Diary of CEO.
• 1:44:45
  Her name's Karen Howe and she's journalist based in San
• 1:44:47
  Francisco. I think a.
• 1:44:48
  Podcast, right? Yeah, Serial.
• 1:44:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I stopped listening to it a
• 1:44:52
  bunch. I'm a big fan of Danny Jones.
• 1:44:56
  I don't. Have you ever heard of him?
• 1:44:57
  He's awesome. I think Matthew McConaughey I
• 1:44:59
  think was on there and that's where I like listen to Matthew
• 1:45:02
  McConaughey podcast. I think he's like a very white
• 1:45:04
  like seems like a pretty wise and and.
• 1:45:06
  He's fun. He's very intentional.
• 1:45:08
  Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I saw him on there.
• 1:45:11
  Yeah, yeah, dude, he's got fun stuff.
• 1:45:14
  Do you ever hear? You ever hear Julian Dory I?
• 1:45:16
  Don't think so. Dude, check out Julian Dory, OK?
• 1:45:21
  He is. He's AI.
• 1:45:26
  He gets incredible guests. He has incredible conversations.
• 1:45:33
  I think that he, I, I, he's treating a little bit like a
• 1:45:36
  show and I don't feel like he's being so authentic.
• 1:45:39
  Like he's aware, like he acts too aware of like the microphone
• 1:45:42
  in front of him. I think but but but like
• 1:45:45
  overall, like one of the one of the top people to listen to
• 1:45:49
  understand current events, understand the world today.
• 1:45:51
  OK, I'll have to check her out. 1000% he's incredible.
• 1:45:55
  Maybe I saw the face and he has a solo episode every week now
• 1:45:58
  for like the last bunch of months on Epstein where just his
• 1:46:01
  just like deep dives into what he's like new drops and
• 1:46:04
  discoveries. Dude, that's a.
• 1:46:06
  Conversation we haven't had dude catch up on that.
• 1:46:09
  Dude, we'll do another. We'll do another episode.
• 1:46:10
  Dude, there's a lot of Epstein shit, man, that's crazy.
• 1:46:13
  And that's not going anywhere, by the way, because that's all
• 1:46:15
  connected. Also UFOs science I mean like
• 1:46:20
  just goes so. Deep.
• 1:46:20
  The web gets so deep. Dude, his New Mexico ranch.
• 1:46:24
  Yes, that's what I'm. Saying, and do you know that Bob
• 1:46:26
  Lazar who didn't know anything about it was on Jesse Michaels
• 1:46:29
  podcast? It was also great.
• 1:46:30
  It's called American alchemy. And, and Bob Lazar, who does not
• 1:46:35
  know anything about Epstein, like in depth was like, we used
• 1:46:39
  to call it Playboy Ranch because you know, there's always hot
• 1:46:44
  models and hot girls hanging around there.
• 1:46:46
  And he didn't know that Les Wexner was Jeffrey Epstein's
• 1:46:50
  guy. You know the guy Les Wexner was
• 1:46:52
  the owner of of Victoria Secrets and and Abercrombie and Fitch
• 1:46:56
  and send you a guy all this shit and you're like, dude.
• 1:46:59
  I have to send you a guy you, if you're into that, check out his
• 1:47:02
  YouTube. It's Zachary Faust and he.
• 1:47:06
  I took him out. He was a realtor and I followed
• 1:47:08
  him because he was very analytical.
• 1:47:10
  He was very in depth with all his research given market
• 1:47:12
  reports, updates, everything. He got into the Epstein stuff,
• 1:47:16
  basically went and dive dope deep on that and now he's
• 1:47:20
  posting his videos where he literally has like a web.
• 1:47:23
  Chart of everything dude, he's got to be careful man, it's
• 1:47:25
  crazy no people have time that's.
• 1:47:27
  Like bro you might want to like have security like.
• 1:47:29
  Yeah. Oh, it's crazy.
• 1:47:31
  Dude, one my, my one guest that's coming up, he told me
• 1:47:35
  that he was like, I was friends with, you know, because media is
• 1:47:39
  having a fun time with these missing scientists.
• 1:47:40
  He's like, I was friends with one of them that went missing
• 1:47:43
  back in 2022. Our dads are both physicists
• 1:47:46
  together that work together and I'm like Oh my fuck here we go.
• 1:47:52
  We got to wrap this. Up.
• 1:47:56
  But dude, thanks so much for coming man.
• 1:47:58
  Congratulations on everything, man.
• 1:47:59
  You got to keep on doing it brother.
• 1:48:01
  Cheers, cheers.