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#685 FireSide Chat w/ the Crew; 21 Jun 2026 · The Lost Art Project: Veterans’ Voices

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All right, here we are.
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Man, we got the crew.
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We are rocking and rolling.
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We've got quite a bit of the crew
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tonight, so this is a good turnout.
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I'm excited about our conversations
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tonight.
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But we'll go around.
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Jess, how are things up in the north?
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It is perfect.
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It's a little chilly,
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and we don't have spicy rain,
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so I'm happy about that.
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It's free water.
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Spicy rain.
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It doesn't come down in a hail.
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I'm happy about that.
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It's perfect up here right now.
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It's like sixty-five and gently raining.
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I'm going to live that for a while.
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That's a good deal.
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My wife was coming back from Arizona last
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night, which every time she comes back,
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she brings me a new hat.
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I love that most about her.
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She got to tour most of the country
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because western Kansas had a tornadic
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event, is the best way to put it.
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She had to fly
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all the way out to like wyoming and
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then across their dodging storms the whole
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time i was watching on flight stats i
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was like this is wow they were on
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that flight they're on that plane for a
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very long time it's american they don't
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fly on time ever so they got in
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about about one last night oh wow this
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morning so yeah good times there man holy
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moly phoenix to sioux falls now we have
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a we have a connection for all of
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our snowbirds
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Snowbirds has got to get down there in
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the warm weather, you know?
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Yeah.
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Uh, Mike,
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how are things down in the south?
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You just ambushed me there.
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I see how you're doing.
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Oh, I'm just going around.
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Sorry.
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No, he didn't ambush me.
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I'm sitting there looking at anybody else.
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I'll get to what's going on here in
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the south,
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but does anybody else
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in the business world have to deal with
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Microsoft Teams?
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Yes.
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Oh my God.
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It's like become the literally my phone's
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going ding, ding, ding, ding.
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And it's stupid questions,
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it's stupid this, stupid that.
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And I'm less like,
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can you just text me?
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Can't put it on mute.
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Put it on mute,
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but then something important comes through
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as they say.
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And on a Sunday night at eight o'clock
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at night,
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But anyways, that's what I was doing.
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Sorry when I said you ambushed me,
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but now I'm doing good here.
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Still dealing with rain, storms.
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They got a tornado warning out tonight.
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I don't know what that's going to turn
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into, but it's...
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Keep one ear open because it's hard to
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hear.
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The siren's going off.
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I know that because I had my headphones
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on while I was doing that.
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It's hard to hear.
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Between three dogs in the house,
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one of them is going to let me
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know, I promise you.
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So...
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That's a good point.
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Very nice.
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So going back to Teams,
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you know what Teams is, right?
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Shit.
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Excuse my language.
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I'm sorry.
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No, you're not wrong.
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I mean, other than that.
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Microsoft bought Skype and then they were
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trying to copy Google documents and they
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slammed it all together and made this just
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an abomination of a program that just
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never seems to work right.
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Well,
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if it was used the way I think
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it was initially intended to be used,
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but
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Now it's being used, you know,
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in a corporate world where nobody
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communicates with each other.
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It's like, I sent you a team's message.
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Oh yeah.
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You didn't bother to look at my teams.
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I'm unavailable between nine and one.
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And it was like, mother effer,
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I apologize.
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I'm driving and I need an answer on
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something.
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I didn't have time to sit here and
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get on my laptop,
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which I don't have access to,
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to figure out when you're available.
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Yeah,
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they started doing that whole Teams thing
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through all the military computers and
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stuff like that.
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And I refused.
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I tried it for a little bit,
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but it was the same thing that you're
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talking about.
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It's just like they would be sending
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messages.
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I would miss it.
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And so I was like, nope,
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you communicate with me because luckily I
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was the master gunny.
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So I was like,
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you will communicate with me through
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email, not through Teams.
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Last week I had to do this whole
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corporate law antitrust thing for the
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company.
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It was assigned to me because it has
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nothing to do with me.
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I have nothing to do with pricing.
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Yeah, I deal with customers,
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but it has nothing to do with me,
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you know,
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price fixing and doing this and doing
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that.
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But somehow it was assigned to me and
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I even questioned it.
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I'm like, why is this assigned to me?
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Normally we have to do the generic online
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antitrust.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Let me take the quiz.
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But this one is assigned to me and
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there was like two hundred people that it
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was assigned to.
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So I'm sitting there and it's just the
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head of legal for corporate law in
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Atlanta.
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And she's sitting there doing it.
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And it was supposed to be a two
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hour class.
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And this one idiot who was the assistant
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vice manager of something or other kept
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asking questions.
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And she's like,
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what part of wait till the end?
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Don't you understand?
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Yeah.
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We got to wait for the end, obviously.
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But, you know,
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I'm sitting there after the fact that it
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was done.
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And she goes, well,
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if you have any questions,
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I'll stick around for another thirty
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minutes because I love answering
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questions.
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I was like, OK, great.
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I thank you when I hit X. Well,
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my phone is still connected to it.
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So my phone's going all these.
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Oh, yeah.
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Excuse my language.
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All these butt kissing people.
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Oh, thank you so much.
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Extremely informative.
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Thank you so much.
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Then it's like,
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are you driving at the time?
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no i was actually at home and then
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when it was going off i was driving
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so here's the trick when you're on one
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of those like giant calls hit snooze at
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some right as soon as you x out
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otherwise you're gonna get all this stupid
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yeah but i started i literally started
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going back through and looking at you know
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these people and it's like oh vice
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president when i when i got to us
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later that night because it's still on my
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phone in teams and i started looking at
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it was like the executive vice president
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manager of
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retail sales or something like that.
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And I'm like, okay.
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But then I got back and I hit,
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you know, like I started, I was like,
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wait a minute.
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I've never really looked at this.
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So I started and I went back to
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like my boss and I looked at him
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and I was like,
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who does he report to?
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I know who he reports to.
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And I clicked on it and it says,
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who does he report to?
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So I clicked on it and it says,
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who does he report to?
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And I clicked on it and I just
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kept going through things,
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but I kept seeing at the top,
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it says working hours.
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eight to sixteen hundred.
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That was the common thing, you know,
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available between this point and that
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point,
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like the CEO of the company is available
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from ten thirty to two thirty or fifteen
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thirty every day, Monday through Thursday.
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Wow.
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But I started looking at it and I
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was like,
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I wonder what my work hours are.
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I clicked on it.
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I was like, it says nine to five.
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And I was like, shit,
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I've been overworking my ass for entirely
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too long now.
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You should put the actual hours that you
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work on it.
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That actually came back around and smacked
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me harder than a... Really?
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I said, on call, twenty-four hours a day,
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seven days a week,
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three hundred and sixty-four days a year.
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And it got flagged and it came back.
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And it was like,
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you've got to change that.
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You've got to have normal working hours.
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And I was like,
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I don't have normal working hours.
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That is my normal.
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I mean, it literally wasn't even,
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it went from the boss's boss to the
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boss's boss to the boss's boss to my
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boss.
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He sent me a message and I was
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like, hey, Teams works.
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Because he didn't bother to even call me
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or text me.
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He sent it through Teams.
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And I was like, hey, Teams works.
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Because you've got to change that.
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You can't have that.
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I was like, it's the truth.
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It doesn't matter if it's the truth or
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not.
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And I was like, okay, whatever.
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What hours do you want me to put
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in there?
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That's what that is.
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Zero six to eighteen hundred.
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You want me to put a twelve hour
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day?
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What do you want me to put in
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there?
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What works best in your world?
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Yeah, of course, you know,
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as a Navy guy.
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What is your version of the truth?
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Yeah, I got told by the Navy guy.
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I was like, oh,
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you are as an antagonizer.
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You just can't let shit go.
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And I was like, he's not wrong.
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I said, I was just asking a question,
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but yeah, you're right.
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I love it.
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Oh man.
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Well, I guess we can jump down.
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Look at that beard, man.
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He is looking glorious in that beard, man.
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I don't think he got to ask everybody
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else.
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I think I was took up some of
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everybody's time.
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So Mark's over there claiming my time,
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reclaiming my time.
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Aaron, how are things in Florida?
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Uh, hot, humid, sticky, uh, not bad.
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A little bit of rain,
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but most of the storms and stuff is
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staying north of us.
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So that's good.
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We're good.
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It is a Tampa Bay race shirt.
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Uh, that's wild.
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Yeah.
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Um, they're, they're, you know,
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I think coming up on the final dealings
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of, uh, building the new stadium, uh,
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I think they got a location picked out,
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which is close to the Steinbrenner Field.
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To be honest with you, I don't know.
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I really just started following them last
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year.
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Didn't their roof collapse just like the
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Metro?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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That happened during Hurricane Milton.
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Yeah, the roof collapsed.
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But I'm going to be unavailable for about
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a minute while I move inside because the
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bugs are about to carry me off.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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Should I send that in Teams?
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Yes, please.
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Send it to Mike and let him know.
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I need to know.
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I'll reply for you.
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It's important.
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It's important.
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Do not disturb on there, by the way.
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Yeah, do not disturb.
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Oh, man.
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Talking about do not disturb.
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Mark, how you doing?
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I'm doing outstanding.
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I want to say happy Father's Day to
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all the fathers that are on the podcast.
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And just wishing everybody a great day
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like that.
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It was an unbelievably,
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phenomenally gorgeous day here in San
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Diego.
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Probably about two degrees, sunshine,
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light wind.
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Unbelievable.
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The noise pollution was a lot of control.
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So number one,
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I hear the noise is getting a little
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out of control down there.
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I don't know how it was during the
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week.
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Cause I was in Quantico, Virginia since,
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uh, uh, since Wednesday.
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So I went out there for a friend's,
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uh, son's, uh,
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infantry officer course graduation.
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Ah, very cool.
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Yeah.
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That's what IOC actually stands for.
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I always thought it was idiots on
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Copenhagen.
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Yeah.
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I think there's a lot of them that,
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uh, that, that wouldn't pertain to.
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Yeah.
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That's what I always, yeah.
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That's what I thought IOC stood for.
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It's idiots on Copenhagen.
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Yeah.
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Infantry officer's course.
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So we got a new batch of second
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lieutenants going out to the Fleet Marine
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Force.
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Nice.
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Infantry units.
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The young gentleman that I went to watch
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the graduation,
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he's going to first LAR there at Camp
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Pendleton.
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Highlander.
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So he's going to be a highlander.
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Very cool.
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You better get his wrestling skills up on
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point.
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I have to do a soft recon,
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find out what the command climate is there
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before the young lieutenant checks in.
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That has always been a solid unit.
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And Colonel Powers.
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Colonel Jeff Powers.
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Oh, yeah.
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He's the godfather of the Highlanders.
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The godfather.
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He is.
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He had a double battalion command,
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if I recall.
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Oh, I'm not sure.
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As a major.
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And then he had Highlanders as a colonel,
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a lieutenant colonel.
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So he took Wolfpack over to Gulf One,
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and then he had a battalion command as
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lieutenant colonel.
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So it was like a double.
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Because he was the bear pit master.
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The stories were,
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if you ever try to get this guy
14:47
out of a bear pit,
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you might as well just write one of
14:49
your arms off because he was taking it
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away from you.
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And it was, he was just a bull.
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And if you tried four or five guys
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come and try and rip them out of
15:02
the bear pit and you come back with
15:04
like missing things.
15:06
So he's fought hard, but he did that.
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So then you Highlander days on the,
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on the beach i think red beach and
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they camp out on the beach bring the
15:16
kegs down they're doing field games they
15:19
turn oh it's a major it's a major
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operation there's no doubt about it i've
15:23
heard about it yep yep we had taxes
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they had like highlander days i'm like i
15:29
don't think that was a fair fight you
15:31
know when it came to a fair compensation
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for light armor reconnaissance guys yeah
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Well, you're speaking of the godfather,
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just what I got for Father's Day.
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It's the podfather.
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That's right.
15:43
Podcast father.
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Podfather.
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That's what they got me.
15:51
That and some Chico sticks, man.
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You can't go wrong with some Chico sticks.
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Those are, oh man, those are so delicious.
15:58
That takes me back to baseball days as
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a kid.
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Yeah.
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Fifteen cents for a Chico stick.
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Yeah.
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Oh man,
16:05
I wish they were fifteen cents now.
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Geez.
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I don't know why.
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It was like a candy bar was a
16:13
quarter and Chico sticks were fifteen
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cents.
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So I was like, take your pick.
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Wow.
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How much was it in like a candy
16:21
bar for you, Mike,
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in your area growing up?
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In Pennsylvania?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I will lie to you.
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I couldn't tell you because I was never
16:31
allowed to have candy bars or was never
16:33
allowed to buy a damn candy bar.
16:35
I'm not trying to be funny when I
16:36
say that.
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It was like, nope.
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You poor guy.
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That's the home of chocolate.
16:42
How is this even possible?
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Yeah, that's true.
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I was Northwest Pennsylvania.
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Northwest PA.
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Y'all were boycotting it.
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That's what it was.
16:51
They wanted to boycott it.
16:52
It was called that.
16:54
Anytime we went to the store,
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I was like, nope.
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Can I have?
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Nope.
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Can I have a,
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what am I just telling you?
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Driving a Toyota Detroit.
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You just don't do this, man.
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That's good.
17:08
I don't have a problem driving a Toyota
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Detroit.
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I'll be honest with you.
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Well, I'm saying, I mean,
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Hershey's was like the, oh God,
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that's wild.
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I don't know.
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By the time I actually could eat a
17:21
candy bar,
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I think I bought it my first,
17:23
my first candy bar when I actually started
17:25
working.
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But the problem is I would cut grass
17:29
and do stuff like that,
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but I had this money,
17:31
but I can never go anywhere to buy
17:34
anything with the money.
17:35
So it wasn't until I started working what
17:40
was called downtown Franklin,
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Pennsylvania.
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You can look it up in Venango County,
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Pennsylvania,
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but actually started working down there.
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And all of a sudden, you know,
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the pharmacy I worked with had candy bars
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and I had to run deliveries and had
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to
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walk past another pharmacy.
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So I'd go in there.
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Cause that was the only place it's closed
18:00
now.
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So it doesn't matter if I say it
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or not.
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That was the only place that would sell
18:03
dip to like a thirteenth year,
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fourteen year old.
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You know, it's because we knew the kid,
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it was like a senior in high school.
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We go, can't cope with it.
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He's like,
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He slid it across the counter.
18:21
I can give you the price of a
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can of Copenhagen at that point.
18:25
What was the price of a can of
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Copenhagen?
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Like, ninety-nine cents at that point.
18:29
Whoa, dang.
18:30
There used to be a place in that
18:33
area that used to be called Country Fair.
18:35
It looked like a little red barn.
18:37
And it was actual Copenhagen.
18:39
It wasn't the cheap stuff.
18:41
My dad always did.
18:42
My dad dipped Copenhagen, you know,
18:43
wintergreen skull fine cuts.
18:45
yeah he did but then he quit but
18:47
you know i blame him for my bad
18:49
habit but he would literally pull off to
18:51
the uh the the country fair and he's
18:54
like he'd hand me a dollar and he
18:57
goes go get me a can of skull
19:00
so i'd run and it's like can of
19:02
skull please and i give him the dollar
19:05
and you know they give me the can
19:06
and i'd run back out and they'd be
19:07
looking out the window they'd be like is
19:10
he actually okay he's getting in the truck
19:11
there
19:13
so here here it was like seventy five
19:15
cents i think at that point but so
19:17
here in oklahoma in sallisaw it's anywhere
19:20
between five dollars and fifty cents to
19:22
seven dollars and fifty cents for a can
19:24
yeah what's it on base does anybody know
19:30
any base oh i don't know no idea
19:34
it's got to be close to that they
19:37
don't make it that cheap do they
19:39
Well, how much is a pack of cigarettes?
19:47
Cause they're like, it's about,
19:56
it's about the same.
19:57
Yeah.
19:59
And Eric can answer this question.
20:00
It's a question I've always had.
20:01
Why in Florida can you only buy a
20:03
four pack of beer at a seven?
20:09
Or any convenience store.
20:10
I bought more than that.
20:13
No,
20:13
I'm saying they don't sell it in a
20:15
six-pack.
20:15
You can buy how many four-packs you want,
20:17
but you can't get – like if you
20:19
go to get a six-pack,
20:20
it's only a four-pack.
20:22
I don't know.
20:22
What?
20:22
We got twelve-packs from seven-eleven.
20:25
Yeah, you can buy it at three-packs.
20:28
A couple weeks ago.
20:28
But if you go in to buy,
20:29
just like you would grab a six-pack –
20:33
So you wouldn't buy a six pack Bud
20:35
Light.
20:35
They only sell it in a four pack.
20:39
Aaron goes for way more than four.
20:41
So he goes all in.
20:44
I go to the classics.
20:48
Oh,
20:48
you're talking about you can't buy a
20:49
single one?
20:50
Is that what you're talking about?
20:51
No, you can buy single beers.
20:52
But if you went to buy just a
20:54
standard six pack that is connected in the
20:56
six pack holder in the state of Florida,
20:59
why can't you buy a six pack of
21:02
beer?
21:03
It's a four-pack.
21:05
I might have to look that one up.
21:06
You know what I'm saying?
21:07
The holders that hold the beer?
21:08
Yeah, yeah.
21:08
I mean,
21:12
what kind of beer are you talking about?
21:16
It has to have something to do with
21:18
driving.
21:19
Well,
21:19
it's got to be a tax thing and
21:20
stuff like that or driving.
21:22
They figure if it's over four cans and
21:25
you're driving, that's a bad thing.
21:26
That's what they're thinking is, so...
21:30
I'm just making stuff up.
21:31
It don't matter if you're buying Natty
21:33
Light or if you're buying Budweiser or
21:35
whatever you're buying.
21:37
Yeah,
21:38
because I've seen the local craft beers
21:41
and stuff in packs of four.
21:45
I mean,
21:46
we bought Mickey Ultra not too long ago
21:50
in a twelve pack.
21:53
I know what you're talking about,
21:54
but I haven't paid too much attention to
21:56
it.
22:01
I finally found a place here locally that
22:04
has this, the Lone River Ranch Water.
22:08
Aaron, you remember those?
22:09
Did you drink any of those when you
22:11
were in Virginia Beach with us?
22:12
I don't recall, no.
22:16
Man, I love drinking those things.
22:17
What's that?
22:18
It says spicy?
22:23
It is.
22:24
Yeah, this one is.
22:26
It's a hard seltzer spicy.
22:29
This has got a taste of agave nectar,
22:34
lime, and jalapenos.
22:39
No, I definitely didn't drink it,
22:40
and I don't drink peppers in beer.
22:46
Nope.
22:47
Drinking a small liquor, isn't it?
22:49
It's malt, isn't it?
22:51
It's malt liquor.
22:51
No.
22:52
I don't know.
22:54
What's a malt liquor?
22:56
It says it's only got four percent alcohol
22:59
per volume.
23:00
Oh, yeah.
23:02
It's hardly any, right?
23:05
I bet it's a malt.
23:07
Speaking of malts,
23:08
did anybody see there a month or so
23:10
ago that they quit making Schlitz?
23:13
Really?
23:14
Yeah, they...
23:15
finally ended it said it was the oldest
23:19
beer or oldest malt liquor on the market
23:21
and they finally said yeah there ain't a
23:23
market for it so let's just get rid
23:24
of it look at this it says it
23:26
on there see if you can read that
23:30
uh no it says non malt beer yeah
23:38
that means it's garbage
23:42
I like it.
23:46
That's why Andrew's already doing this.
23:48
He's like, I like it.
23:52
You know what malt is, right?
23:53
I'm not leaning.
23:54
Am I leaning?
23:56
I think it's my camera, man.
23:58
Huh?
23:59
You know what malt means, right?
24:01
No, I have no idea.
24:03
So parley,
24:05
it has to be a certain content and
24:07
it'll make malt.
24:08
If it doesn't,
24:10
it's about a third of the price,
24:11
selling price.
24:13
When you're growing barley,
24:15
if you don't make malt on the content
24:17
of it,
24:18
they do the squeeze test on the content
24:21
of the actual grain, it doesn't make malt.
24:25
When you're a barley farmer,
24:27
if you miss malt, it's shit.
24:30
They probably don't use it.
24:33
I wonder what they use to make this.
24:34
A lot of people are not actually growing
24:36
barley anymore,
24:37
so Schlitz
24:38
actually trying to compete to make malt or
24:41
to buy malt barley it doesn't pay anymore
24:44
so everybody's going into corn so all
24:47
those old barley fields are getting
24:48
drilled under and they're putting corn
24:50
yeah with like rotaries nothing wrong with
24:52
corn
24:57
I don't know about a lot of corn
24:58
beer, but there's a lot of corn whiskey.
25:00
Yeah,
25:01
there's a lot of corn whiskey for sure.
25:04
Budweiser and Anheuser-Busch just use
25:05
rice.
25:08
Do they really?
25:09
I don't doubt it.
25:11
Are you just saying that?
25:12
No.
25:13
Are you messing with us right now?
25:14
Same with Japanese.
25:16
It's a rice brewed beer.
25:18
There may be some barley in it,
25:20
but it's...
25:21
I didn't know that.
25:22
I mean,
25:22
I'm learning all kinds of stuff tonight.
25:24
I don't know what extent.
25:25
Yeah.
25:26
I mean,
25:28
don't anybody tweet me and tell me I'm
25:30
wrong.
25:31
But, yeah, that was just –
25:33
Well, hey, I got some great news.
25:35
Uh-oh.
25:36
You guys are ready for some good news.
25:37
You want good news?
25:39
He's going to quit drinking seltzers.
25:40
That's what he's saying right now.
25:41
That is not what I'm saying.
25:43
I'm drinking these,
25:45
so I will drink less of these.
25:47
There you go.
25:49
So I'm trying to cut back on the
25:51
liquor and trying to drink something else,
25:56
which I like the ranch waters,
25:57
so we're good.
25:59
No, the good news is not that,
26:01
but the good news is I've been reaching
26:03
out to different companies and stuff too,
26:06
because I'm going to start a quarterly
26:08
raffle.
26:09
Right.
26:09
And, uh,
26:10
so I've reached out to several different
26:12
companies and some of them are interested
26:14
in, uh, uh,
26:16
participating or donating which is really
26:19
cool so this week I have at least
26:22
one meeting with a group I'm pretty
26:24
excited about it actually I don't know I
26:27
don't know if I should say who they
26:28
are but I am excited about it so
26:30
whenever we push this raffle out it's
26:33
gonna be a cool thing I'm telling you
26:36
it's gonna be cool if you like leather
26:39
it's gonna be real cool you like dead
26:42
cow
26:44
That's been, what are you doing?
26:46
Are you laid out in the sun?
26:47
I don't know.
26:47
This is getting a little weird.
26:49
This conversation is getting a little
26:51
weird.
26:51
Tanning.
26:51
There you go.
26:52
What are you talking about?
26:55
It's getting weird.
26:56
All right, fine.
26:56
I'll tell you who it is.
27:00
Saddleback Leather Company.
27:02
I don't know if you guys know who
27:03
that is.
27:04
It's out of Texas.
27:05
Yeah.
27:07
um uh aaron you you saw my bags
27:10
the leather bags that i had that's the
27:11
company that makes it and uh and i
27:15
was addicted to them for a while and
27:16
i got way too many bags um but
27:19
that's okay because they're awesome bags
27:22
and uh anyways they're thinking about
27:24
donating to us uh for the raffle and
27:27
yeah i'm talking the leather bag is like
27:29
what six hundred seven or six hundred to
27:32
a thousand dollars depending on which one
27:33
it is
27:35
I mean, and there's no zippers.
27:36
There's none of that stuff.
27:37
So it's like buckles.
27:39
It's old school.
27:40
So you aren't going to get zippers break
27:42
in and stuff like that.
27:44
Well,
27:44
how many drill instructors are on this
27:45
podcast right now?
27:48
Two.
27:48
Just two?
27:49
Two.
27:50
So, you know, the campaign cover hat,
27:53
the cover things you slide your covers
27:55
into, like the hats.
27:57
You should see if they cover them on
27:58
the side of a bag.
28:00
What?
28:00
Cover blocks, we call them.
28:02
Yeah, cover blocks.
28:03
That's wild.
28:05
Anyway, the cover blocks.
28:08
You've got to block your cover.
28:10
How many hats do you have?
28:13
Wait.
28:14
When you say hats,
28:15
are you talking all flavors of hats?
28:18
What are you talking about?
28:21
Campaign covers?
28:22
No.
28:25
Are you just saying just regular hats?
28:26
You mean leftover campaign covers?
28:28
No.
28:29
No.
28:30
I'm saying if you take that same concept,
28:32
because you've got those brimmed hats
28:34
around.
28:34
Yeah.
28:35
And they had one where you could actually
28:36
put that on the side of the bag
28:37
so you could have one on and then
28:38
have one on the side of your bag,
28:40
too.
28:40
There's a design concept right there for
28:42
you.
28:45
Now,
28:45
you're talking about for the hats I wear
28:46
now, though, right?
28:48
Yeah.
28:48
I don't know.
28:48
I don't know how you would do that.
28:50
Well, the same concept.
28:51
It's a good question.
28:52
The cover block.
28:52
It's a good question.
28:54
The cover block.
28:54
It just slides in.
28:56
Yeah.
28:56
Well, no,
28:57
because it would smash the sides.
29:00
It'd be bad.
29:01
That's what I'm saying.
29:01
They put a dome over it,
29:03
a leather dome.
29:05
Oh, I see what you're saying.
29:09
Maybe.
29:12
It's kind of like those campaign-covered
29:16
traveling cases.
29:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:19
Of course there's one of those.
29:22
I never used it.
29:23
Cottage industry you guys own.
29:26
Now,
29:26
I would Scotchgard the living crap out of
29:28
my campaign cover, man.
29:29
That thing, you could do anything to it.
29:32
It wasn't breaking.
29:33
You could use it as a raft.
29:35
When you guys talk about Scotchgarding the
29:38
shit out of those things,
29:39
all I could think of was that James
29:40
Bond character who threw his hat.
29:42
It was like a razor blade.
29:43
No, that's exactly what it was like.
29:45
That big green guy?
29:46
Japanese or whatever it was?
29:49
Yeah.
29:50
that is that was the trick of the
29:52
trade right there you start slipping crap
29:54
out of it and then if it rains
29:56
i'm talking it just beads right off man
29:58
there is no it didn't get wet at
30:00
all like just everything rolled off yeah i
30:03
thought the only thing that approved was
30:06
sizing we weren't supposed to be using i
30:10
thought it was sizing
30:13
Sizing.
30:13
Magic sizing.
30:15
Magic sizing.
30:15
No, no, no, no.
30:18
By the way... On pick-up day,
30:22
we used to just scotch guard the living
30:25
crap out of our shirts.
30:26
Yeah.
30:27
And then while they're in the showers,
30:29
you know,
30:29
you run in there to get them out.
30:32
And water's just beating off you,
30:33
you know, it's like repelling...
30:38
rain room,
30:39
and you're not even getting wet.
30:40
Yeah, everyone's like, how in the world?
30:44
All this stuff offends Jess,
30:46
because Jess was in a different
30:48
environment for a long time.
30:49
We're talking about starch and candies,
30:53
so they literally stood up straight.
30:54
I mean, you could sit there.
30:56
God, that was so bad for him, though.
30:58
Oh, yeah, it was definitely bad for him.
31:02
You did stuff like that,
31:03
talking about how you altered blues and
31:06
stuff like that to make him
31:08
you know, look a certain way.
31:09
And, you know, we had to do it.
31:13
Yeah.
31:14
I wasn't looking,
31:15
I wasn't sitting there on a change of
31:17
command for somebody.
31:19
Hopefully nobody had MVGs on or anything
31:21
like that.
31:22
You know,
31:25
you stay flow or any starts of your
31:27
stuff.
31:27
And then you like,
31:29
like look through IR at night on those
31:30
things or.
31:31
Oh yeah.
31:32
Those things glowed.
31:34
And once you did it, they were shot.
31:37
Yes.
31:38
they do light up yeah I agree they
31:41
don't breathe anymore it closes pores out
31:43
and those things just turn in like a
31:45
giant I know all about that walking
31:47
through the desert you can always tell you
31:49
if you're working with like a bunch of
31:51
guys who had spent not enough time in
31:53
the field they didn't have field camis
31:56
they had like their ones they just retired
31:58
from their day-to-day and we're working
32:00
against them one night yeah it was
32:04
It was, we ran a, we ran a,
32:07
what was it?
32:08
MLRS unit.
32:09
And we're doing a raid package with them
32:11
up in Twin Island Palms.
32:12
So we're escort function.
32:13
And it was like, Hey,
32:15
our near and far marking symbol,
32:16
our near marking symbol is going to be
32:18
IR chem lights.
32:19
And we put one in the back vision
32:20
block of the LAVs.
32:21
Then we put one up front when the
32:22
IR glows.
32:24
And here's our meetup point.
32:26
They come tracking out there and their
32:28
track units.
32:29
And every antenna had like four of these
32:31
things, just like going back and forth.
32:33
It looked like,
32:35
close encounters of a third kind through
32:36
mvgs it was like just just a circus
32:41
coming out like oh my god they're taking
32:42
it to a whole new level but that's
32:45
too funny you work against like some like
32:47
people like the garrison units out in the
32:49
field once in a while and they just
32:51
stuck out like sore thumbs and you're
32:53
welcome just so you know you're welcome
32:56
for that yeah i are
33:00
that infrared just picked it up and just
33:02
stuck to it it's like the the purple
33:04
lights of the with the scorpions at night
33:07
they turn the glow that's what they look
33:10
like
33:14
The only camis that stood up by themselves
33:18
with Jess is the same ones he wore
33:20
all week out in the field because he
33:21
sweat so much.
33:22
Yeah.
33:26
It's a good point, man.
33:27
It's a good point.
33:29
This is like the UDP special.
33:31
You had the mama son inside the barracks
33:34
and you always got like two sets done.
33:35
You bought them fresh,
33:36
put name tapes on them.
33:39
You ran them down to her like a
33:40
month before you rotate it back and had
33:42
her just take care of them.
33:44
and that was like they did like the
33:46
the bead down the crease in the level
33:48
and she ironed that in so it was
33:49
a permanent crease that was like your
33:51
board set and then you got one cover
33:54
and you just had her take care of
33:56
it i don't know she just dunked that
33:58
whole thing in there and i was like
33:59
you could see oh yeah it was
34:02
wholeheartedly just like the campaign
34:04
cover it starts to all get out yeah
34:07
yep and that thing would last forever it
34:10
was like yeah it would it's probably
34:12
somewhere
34:14
You thought you were throwing it away.
34:16
It's still out there.
34:17
It's floating in the ocean somewhere,
34:19
I bet.
34:19
No.
34:22
You mailed that stuff home.
34:23
You made sure it got home in one
34:24
piece.
34:25
There was no way it was going to
34:26
go to sea back.
34:27
It was going to get hung,
34:28
and it was like,
34:29
you broke it out twice a year for
34:31
boards.
34:33
See,
34:33
that was just the opposite of eighth and
34:35
iron.
34:35
We had one set of field camis that
34:37
we broke out twice a year.
34:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:40
So great.
34:42
That's funny.
34:46
That's a completely different environment
34:47
up there.
34:50
Actually, what we would do is we would,
34:54
because we didn't go to the field.
34:57
I can't even remember going to the field
34:58
during parade season at all.
35:00
But once parade season was over with,
35:05
starting in October,
35:06
we were in the field at least every
35:09
other week.
35:11
Um, whether it was Quantico, AP Hill,
35:14
wherever we could, you know,
35:15
we even went down to Little Creek,
35:17
got on the ship once, um,
35:20
did that one year.
35:21
Um,
35:22
but what we would do is take our,
35:24
our camis that, you know,
35:26
were starched and pressed and all that.
35:27
And we would, and our boots,
35:29
spit shine boots,
35:30
and we'd wear those to the field and
35:32
basically get field nastiness on them and
35:34
then bring them back and get them all
35:36
cleaned up and
35:39
I said, what a pain in the butt,
35:40
man.
35:42
What's that?
35:43
I said, what a pain in the butt.
35:44
You take your boots out there,
35:45
get them all scuffed up, nasty,
35:47
and then you have to come back and
35:48
start all over?
35:50
Well, it was to break them down.
35:51
I mean,
35:51
you had more time to prepare them.
35:54
During parade season, you don't have time.
35:56
You spend a few hours every evening
35:59
getting your shit ready for the next day,
36:01
and you're in ceremonies every day,
36:03
just about.
36:03
Yeah, that's wild.
36:07
So, Mike,
36:07
you remember Spitshine and Twilight Palms
36:09
at all?
36:09
Every day.
36:12
Did it ever last in the summer?
36:15
No.
36:16
No.
36:16
Five minutes out on the parade deck and
36:18
it was gone.
36:19
That's why you didn't wear your uniform to
36:21
work every morning.
36:22
You got to the band hall,
36:23
you got changed.
36:24
That's right.
36:25
You did inspection inside.
36:29
And you looked shit hot inside, man.
36:32
In that building,
36:33
there was a new band hall.
36:35
It wasn't necessarily new.
36:36
It was a new location was on tanks
36:38
battalion.
36:39
You get out there,
36:41
you'd be standing out there and it'd be
36:42
hot as shit.
36:44
And we literally from the changing
36:46
building to the build,
36:47
the main band hall was a bunch of
36:49
us.
36:50
I don't know if they were still there
36:51
or not.
36:51
Andrew, you could tell me.
36:53
But we went and went out and boy
36:55
and found frickin railroad ties.
36:58
And we laid railroad ties from one
37:01
building to the other.
37:03
That way you didn't have to walk through
37:04
all the sand and all that crap.
37:06
Yeah.
37:08
You dragged all your buildings.
37:11
Yeah.
37:12
Well, whatever.
37:13
No, no.
37:15
I mean, we went and got, we even,
37:17
well, we had, we did that.
37:19
We did that initially and then everybody
37:21
crapped about that.
37:22
So then we went out to the flight
37:24
line.
37:25
And we started talking to them and we're
37:27
like, Hey, do you guys, Oh, you know,
37:30
the, the, the lock-in section,
37:34
I had a truck and the other guy,
37:35
the other guy had a truck.
37:36
So we got some of that and we
37:39
laid it from one end to the other.
37:41
You could walk between the buildings
37:42
without getting crap.
37:45
I mean, it was just, oh my God,
37:46
you got sand on your boots.
37:47
We're in the desert.
37:49
But the minute you got out there and
37:51
you would be standing there and you could
37:52
feel it, you looked down,
37:53
it was just like, it went from, oh,
37:58
it just went to a black,
37:59
black real quick.
38:00
It was like, okay, that was, okay.
38:05
I was going to ask Mark what he
38:09
did with the Lord's inspection.
38:13
How did that inspection go?
38:17
They had fucking sandals.
38:18
What are you talking about?
38:21
Yeah.
38:21
Did you spit on those sandals?
38:24
Well,
38:25
you had to inspect the washing of the
38:28
feet.
38:28
You know, those little... Oh, yeah.
38:31
That big bowl that they use for the
38:32
feet.
38:33
Right.
38:34
Yeah, that makes sense.
38:35
They were checking the pedicures on the
38:37
nails, man.
38:38
Shining nails up.
38:42
They had the little buffing sponge.
38:44
They were like...
38:47
that's good to know that was a daily
38:55
thing in twenty nine poems it had to
38:56
be spit shine to what degree you wanted
38:59
a spit shine it was one thing but
39:01
of course i was one of those you
39:03
know i had to i had to do
39:06
it so hell i you know what was
39:08
the old thing we used to do we'd
39:09
take a brand new pair of boots or
39:10
boots and you just saturate them and
39:12
shaving cream, do all kinds of crap.
39:15
Yeah.
39:16
Scrub them down and get all the... Yeah,
39:17
scotch brush, yeah.
39:19
The waterproofing, you know,
39:20
almost like...
39:21
It had to be the shaving cream with
39:23
the alcohol in it, you know,
39:24
the barbie ball or something like that to
39:26
help break down that film that the shoe
39:28
manufacturer puts on there.
39:30
Yeah, it's like a waterproofing.
39:31
Yeah, then you saddle soap them.
39:35
leather dial the crap out of them and
39:37
then my thing to that was at that
39:40
point I would start at like a two
39:42
hundred grit sandpaper and just get nice
39:45
and smooth sit there do that and I
39:47
would move all the way to four hundred
39:48
grit and just do it all the way
39:49
around it and then it was just I
39:51
never got that into it it was literally
39:53
spit shine and you'd be like doing this
39:56
and you get it you know get all
39:58
kinds of polish on it with the leather
40:00
dye and then you heat it up so
40:01
it all soaks in
40:05
As soon as you put them on,
40:06
they crack.
40:06
You do the liner,
40:07
hold your shoe over here.
40:08
Yeah, as soon as you wore them,
40:12
they cracked.
40:13
But that was a good thing because they
40:14
cracked.
40:15
Then you just went around the creases once
40:17
they were worn in,
40:18
and you could shine them up.
40:19
But you'd have pockets of shine in those
40:23
creases, right?
40:24
No, no.
40:25
You did not.
40:26
I promise you.
40:28
Apparently not.
40:29
We were even so bad before you got
40:31
there.
40:31
I didn't do it very well.
40:32
Every, you know,
40:33
you got your souls replaced on a boot.
40:35
She got a good pair of boots that
40:36
are still serviceable,
40:37
but you need new souls.
40:38
Cause God,
40:38
God forbid the heels are here off of
40:41
one side.
40:42
So you got a new pair of souls
40:43
put on them, which were,
40:44
if he could run a pencil on it,
40:46
it was no good.
40:47
No more vibrant.
40:50
You got the vibrance with that yellow
40:52
stamp on them.
40:53
We couldn't,
40:54
that yellow stamp could not be seen.
40:56
It had to be spray painted black.
40:58
Oh wow.
40:59
Cause it was a distraction.
41:01
While you were marching,
41:03
people would see yellow.
41:06
While you were marching.
41:07
Oh, okay.
41:07
It was just like on the drill field,
41:10
the shoes used to have a brown,
41:13
kind of a brown-orange-ish bottom.
41:16
Yes.
41:17
The leather, that had to be dyed.
41:18
Yeah,
41:18
you had to leather dye the crap out
41:20
of it.
41:20
It couldn't be flashing as you're
41:22
marching.
41:23
How in the world did you keep them?
41:25
Like you're walking everywhere.
41:26
Like you're immediately.
41:29
Because the recruits back in the eighties,
41:32
the recruits were in Cammy's,
41:34
but drill instructors were in Charlie's
41:37
every day, unless it was rain.
41:38
Yeah.
41:40
That's,
41:40
that's the key to being a drill instructor
41:42
because the recruits were required to have
41:44
leather dye and turn all that shit in.
41:47
Ooh, they got in trouble for that.
41:49
You remember, were you there for that?
41:50
The drill instructor used all that stuff.
41:53
That happens just,
41:54
it goes in a big cycle, you know.
41:57
They'll crack down on it for a while,
41:59
and then it'll slowly sneak back,
42:01
and the drill instructor will get busted
42:03
with four-foot lockers full of dye and
42:07
dressing and razors.
42:10
I knew people that had literally a storage
42:13
building with like completely full.
42:17
Right.
42:18
I have to tell you,
42:20
you're just stealing from the recruits.
42:23
And I can neither confirm nor deny,
42:25
but I had an opportunity to purchase some
42:29
razors one time.
42:30
You were part of that?
42:32
From a hat.
42:33
Yeah.
42:37
Wow.
42:38
Wasn't there a guy who got busted for
42:40
that?
42:41
Oh, yeah.
42:41
There was.
42:44
It wasn't him, though.
42:45
It was a different guy that was down
42:47
there with him.
42:49
However,
42:49
the one thing about all that dye and
42:52
edge dressing and stuff like that, okay,
42:55
so you hand it back to them,
42:58
they pack it up in their sea bag,
42:59
and what happens on the way home?
43:01
it breaks the glass bottles break and now
43:04
their uniforms are all jacked so they
43:06
can't but then now it comes back to
43:08
the drill instructor again oh why did you
43:10
why didn't they have it federally secured
43:13
or blah blah blah it's you know it's
43:16
a no-win situation it's but uh oh yeah
43:19
but the drill instructors haven't doing
43:20
the heavy buy at the at the start
43:23
the first px call was bs total bs
43:27
That's when you brought me back as a
43:29
senior.
43:29
I think that was my first cycle as
43:31
a senior.
43:33
We completely changed.
43:34
We went through the list and it was
43:35
like, hey,
43:36
only essential things that they have to
43:38
have.
43:39
And then it was like, oh,
43:40
I want to buy a notebook.
43:41
You're like, you got paper.
43:44
No, you're not buying a notebook.
43:46
I need this cool pen.
43:47
No, you put that cool pen back,
43:49
you know.
43:51
So we were like very...
43:53
And so, um, once,
43:55
once they went to the, the card,
43:57
you know, the little credit,
43:58
the debit card that they use,
44:00
then it was easy.
44:01
It was easy to, uh, audit, you know,
44:04
what the experts were making them buy.
44:06
Yeah, absolutely.
44:10
And like I said, you know,
44:11
why does every recruit need an iron?
44:14
You know, that's true.
44:20
They bought irons and bootcamp.
44:22
I'm not trying to be funny.
44:24
I never made my recruits buy an iron.
44:27
That was never an option for us.
44:28
Because your drill instructor team already
44:29
had fifty of them.
44:32
Yeah.
44:33
From previous recruits.
44:35
Yeah.
44:38
Then only a new drill instructor would be
44:40
making recruits buy an iron.
44:41
Yeah.
44:44
So they can fill up their supply dump.
44:48
Oh, man.
44:49
We didn't have one drill instructor, did
44:51
The only thing I remember him doing now,
44:53
years later, even us talking now,
44:55
it always seemed fishy.
44:57
They were still issuing green.
44:59
A lot of us got green jungle boots.
45:02
Those were like the sought after thing was
45:05
like, oh my God, green jungle boots.
45:08
And everybody got issued green jungle
45:10
boots.
45:10
He was like,
45:10
how the hell did you get green jungle
45:12
boots?
45:14
He took everybody back and made us get
45:16
black jungle boots.
45:19
Are you serious?
45:20
Literally,
45:21
you would think that we had to turn
45:22
those back in, but since they were worn,
45:25
they wouldn't take them.
45:27
What?
45:28
So we had to bring them all back.
45:30
We had to tie the laces together,
45:31
and it was like this thing of shame.
45:33
He brought us back.
45:34
We all had them around our necks.
45:35
Like it was our fault they issued us
45:38
green jungle boots.
45:42
That's funny.
45:42
Mark knows this drill instructor.
45:44
I'll just say his last name, Rutan,
45:46
and –
45:50
gets us all the way back and he
45:51
makes us dump a ball.
45:52
He had a big plastic container almost like
45:56
a trash can.
45:57
He had us all throw them in there.
45:59
He took the whole damn thing and stuck
46:01
it in the closet.
46:01
Did he get them back?
46:08
No.
46:08
Oh, man.
46:09
That's crap.
46:09
I'm assuming he took them at that point
46:11
and then did whatever he was going to
46:14
do with them.
46:14
I don't know if they were a hot
46:15
commodity or what,
46:16
but
46:18
they ended up being a hot commodity yeah
46:23
but wow it was funny how anybody had
46:26
green jungle boots he threw a fit about
46:28
because the senior drill instructor was
46:30
gone the other drill instructor was gone
46:33
and he literally pulled us all out the
46:36
whole platoon and we had to go back
46:38
over to cash sales and then made us
46:40
turn them into boots but he hit
46:43
Well, that's the other side of it, too,
46:45
is those that had green jungle boots,
46:46
we still had them.
46:47
Like I said,
46:47
we had to tie the laces around our
46:48
neck.
46:49
And the whole way back at Third Battalion
46:51
at Parrish Island,
46:52
we had to sit there and run laps
46:53
around the platoon on the way back to
46:58
the squad bay.
46:59
It was like it was our fault.
47:04
Flying around.
47:06
Well,
47:06
it's not the drill instructor's fault.
47:08
I mean, come on.
47:09
Whose fault was it?
47:10
Yeah.
47:13
Well, you got somebody yelling at you.
47:14
Put these boots on.
47:15
They think, yeah, I don't give a shit.
47:16
They're two sizes too big,
47:17
but that's fine.
47:18
That's true.
47:24
Two sizes too big.
47:25
Hey,
47:26
that's only because you didn't have
47:27
Sergeant Major Paxton in your uniform.
47:30
That's right.
47:32
Yeah, Sergeant Major Paxton.
47:38
He was the man.
47:42
Oh, yeah.
47:42
I love listening to him.
47:43
Oh, yeah.
47:43
Now, he passed away, didn't he?
47:44
Yes, he did.
47:44
A while back?
47:46
Yes, about two years ago.
47:49
Yeah.
47:49
Yeah, what a great guy.
47:50
What a, like, a legend within,
47:53
especially on the depot,
47:55
but a legend everywhere, really.
47:58
Yeah, he's very well-known,
47:59
involved in everything.
48:01
You know, huge,
48:02
huge Marine Corps League there in
48:04
California.
48:06
uh mission valley in san diego oh yeah
48:09
okay he was huge into the marine corps
48:10
league yeah he's a great great guy and
48:16
uh for everybody out there why we called
48:17
him sergeant major ever uh he would talk
48:21
to you ever and then uh he would
48:23
always ever in the middle and uh ira
48:25
when he think ira he would always yeah
48:29
he wouldn't say um
48:34
but it was so like it was just
48:36
out there wild natural yeah it's like it's
48:40
like he was doing it on purpose but
48:42
he wasn't doing it on purpose you know
48:45
the deep i mean that guy must have
48:46
taken decades deprogramming that's like
48:51
straight cult behavior right there that's
48:52
like deprogramming like oh he was someone
48:53
no no he was he was he was
48:57
retired he was like vietnam era guy
49:00
Yeah.
49:00
I'm telling you,
49:01
that's some cult behavior.
49:04
Yeah.
49:06
That's like cult stuff right there.
49:09
We are all at some point in time
49:11
have been indoctrinated to something like
49:13
that.
49:14
And we still do it.
49:16
Indoctrinated in love of corn country.
49:24
so the nineties in the boots when it
49:27
went wild so mike drew talking about the
49:29
vibram stock that sold you remember the
49:32
waffle ones the waffles used to put
49:35
everybody into a high hover especially
49:37
guys who came out the depot like what
49:39
are those i'm like the guys would like
49:42
it's within regs and everybody's just like
49:44
okay fine lose their mind
49:47
i don't remember that that's crazy that
49:49
must have been way before my time i
49:52
remember we had we had a kid at
49:54
eight and i got his resold in that
49:56
in that waffle soul thing yeah and
50:00
everybody was like what the what the is
50:02
that it's a west coast yeah you gotta
50:04
be different yeah the vibrams were just so
50:07
bad and i just ate them because they
50:10
got caught on everything but
50:13
don't know and high techs there's a high
50:15
tech phase for a while too and then
50:16
they said you can't wear high techs so
50:18
i had a brand new pair of high
50:19
techs and i took them to the pool
50:21
and i was doing waters i was doing
50:22
swim qual and i was doing my water
50:25
tread and uh you could take your boots
50:27
off take them off and they float it
50:29
up and i'm like oh my god these
50:31
things are amazing
50:37
yeah oh yeah if the boot hit the
50:39
bottom it started the clock over again it
50:41
was like so i was trying to keep
50:45
them down the whole time i'm treading
50:46
water like no get let them know okay
50:48
let them know that's hey that's pretty
50:51
smart though i ain't gonna lie to you
50:54
there was i wouldn't have said anything
50:56
the base the whole time too was because
50:59
god we got out of those as fast
51:00
as we could then we got the icvs
51:01
infantry combat boots who else got those
51:03
at the student
51:09
Those things were horrible.
51:20
Oh They were like like moon boots cuz
51:23
we kept asking for the Israeli boots like
51:25
the all-stars Is there like those canvas
51:28
boots so you can wear it because we're
51:29
on the desert man.
51:29
Oh
51:30
And they made us wear those ICBs in
51:32
like July for a cat.
51:34
Oh my God.
51:35
There's no breathing.
51:36
Those Danners were horrible for the heat.
51:39
Really?
51:40
Say no more because we had to wear
51:41
them for an entire cat.
51:43
That's ridiculous.
51:45
We had to shine them up too so
51:47
they breathe even less.
51:49
I still have them.
51:49
They're like brand new.
51:51
I use them when it's fifty below and
51:53
windchill out here or fifty below zero.
51:55
That's a good time to use them.
51:56
Yeah.
51:57
Put some yak tracks on the bottom.
51:58
They're still perfect.
52:00
I'm like, perfect.
52:01
But we came back off that cax and
52:03
always had like trench foot because it was
52:05
just like, oh, yeah,
52:07
old old Bob's feet were sloughing off.
52:10
Well,
52:10
it's because you had literally your whole
52:12
foot was covered in water or sweat.
52:15
It had nowhere to go, man.
52:18
So it went in your socks.
52:19
I'm so glad this got field tested by
52:21
us in Twin Iron Palms in the summer.
52:23
Hey, thank you.
52:24
Thank you for that.
52:25
Yeah, so good.
52:27
Appreciate it.
52:29
It's like they gave up on Twin Iron
52:30
Palms.
52:31
Like,
52:31
you're going to do exactly what Camp
52:32
Pendleton does.
52:32
Like, please stop.
52:33
We're going to have green vehicles and
52:36
green camis and black boots.
52:37
I'm like,
52:39
Show me the tree.
52:44
Desert cameras?
52:44
No, you will not have desert cameras.
52:46
You know, it's just like, you know,
52:48
in the,
52:49
I'm pretty sure it was in the, uh,
52:52
MCI for desert warfare and the MCI for
52:55
mountain warfare.
52:56
You know, the ones,
52:56
different MCIs you take.
52:58
Yeah.
52:58
It talks about, uh,
53:00
not shaving in the morning because you're
53:02
scraping all the oil off your face.
53:05
Right.
53:05
And you're more susceptible to sunburn and
53:07
stuff like that.
53:07
Same with the desert.
53:08
And then, uh, but then it was like,
53:10
you're shaving in the morning.
53:12
I go, uh,
53:13
No,
53:14
we're in this mountainous environment
53:15
where the desert we shave at night.
53:18
If you want to check, yeah,
53:19
you're going to check them,
53:20
make sure they shave every day.
53:21
But you shave at night.
53:23
Yes.
53:26
And then, you know,
53:27
unblouse in the boots in the desert.
53:31
Hey, you know, that brings up a point.
53:35
How often do you think that,
53:38
like say somebody,
53:39
like you're saying the shaving thing,
53:41
you shave at night.
53:42
That's what the MCI said and everything,
53:43
which makes sense to me.
53:45
And a leader says, no,
53:48
we're going to shave in the morning.
53:50
Do you think that is because they just
53:52
don't know the regulation or they don't
53:54
know what's...
53:55
Correct.
53:55
Okay.
53:56
Correct.
53:57
It's, you know, it's like,
53:58
I remember this one drill instructor was,
54:00
was going off on the recruits because they
54:02
had their poly pro next to their body.
54:05
Yeah.
54:06
He wanted,
54:06
he wanted to have a t-shirt underneath the
54:08
poly pro and I had to pull him
54:10
aside.
54:10
I go, and he was,
54:12
this is a staff sergeant also.
54:14
And it's like,
54:16
this is designed to whisk all the moisture
54:18
away from your body.
54:20
Yeah.
54:21
the for the cold you know so it
54:23
doesn't trap in their cold you know so
54:25
it goes against the body it's like huh
54:31
yeah and then and then even if they
54:34
do find out a lot of times they
54:35
won't they won't go back on what they
54:37
said oh no yeah that makes them they
54:39
think i'm gonna double down on it yeah
54:41
yep
54:44
That's a humble leader, man.
54:47
That is something to say.
54:49
That is invalidated leadership.
54:51
Invalidated leadership.
54:53
Invalidated.
54:53
Nice.
54:54
Nice.
54:59
Oh, man.
55:00
That was good.
55:00
And that's my second book,
55:01
Invalidated Leadership.
55:03
There you go.
55:03
There you go.
55:03
It's about these kind of things.
55:04
How leaders can't adjust when they're
55:09
wrong.
55:09
Yeah.
55:13
Oh, man.
55:15
Wow.
55:15
There's a lot of that going on.
55:16
Stay tuned for volume two.
55:17
Dip shits amongst us, yes.
55:25
I've been getting all these emails and
55:26
stuff from some of my former Marines who
55:29
go, I haven't read it yet,
55:31
but did you put in the book about
55:33
when you did this and did this to
55:35
me?
55:35
No, I didn't put that in there.
55:35
Of course not.
55:43
that's funny that's good stuff then you
55:49
tell them they need to write the book
55:51
and talk about you in it yeah actually
55:53
i just uh i tell them to send
55:56
you know write write the incident out send
56:00
it to me so i can collect it
56:01
up for the next book yeah there you
56:03
go there you go
56:04
tell them to write it up and then
56:06
print it out and then wrap it up
56:08
in a little triangle and then you know
56:10
i had i went to i went to
56:15
this uh retirement ceremony a couple years
56:17
ago about five six years ago for a
56:19
a gunny that was retiring one of my
56:21
marines from uh
56:23
uh iraq in oh five oh six and
56:26
he was like a belligerent little corporal
56:29
uh just you know hated any type oh
56:32
yeah oh he was he was phenomenal field
56:34
marine and he came he finally didn't come
56:36
around especially before he retired and
56:39
he's very successful on the outside right
56:41
now uh extremely successful but uh i go
56:45
to i go to
56:47
retirement ceremony and all his Marines
56:49
are telling all these stories about what
56:51
him as a staff sergeant gunning made them
56:53
do and I'm going oh really that sounds
56:56
a little familiar where did you learn how
56:58
to do something like that gunnery sergeant
57:03
all the crap that he used to complain
57:05
about scream about he was making his
57:08
Marines do oh man that's too funny that
57:12
was his form of payback
57:16
you think it was his payback i said
57:18
it worked didn't it because i always used
57:20
to tell them you know especially like you
57:22
know we're up at march air force base
57:24
you know doing the mount training you know
57:26
and we're just wrecking everything but
57:28
they keep complaining about all the uh uh
57:32
graffiti in the heads
57:34
You know, you've got,
57:35
you've got Porta Johns in your area,
57:37
you know,
57:38
all you gotta do is put up,
57:40
put an NCO watch outside the head.
57:44
You set up a NCO supervision guard force,
57:48
graffiti force.
57:51
Hey, get rid of it quick.
57:54
They stopped writing in the heads really
57:55
quick.
57:58
I said, there's nothing,
57:59
nothing that can't be solved.
58:01
No incident that can be taken with direct
58:05
supervision of a non-commissioned officer.
58:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:09
Oh, man, that's too funny.
58:13
So true, though.
58:14
Man, so true.
58:16
Holy cow.
58:17
Man,
58:18
we've had some good discussions tonight,
58:20
you know?
58:23
Hey,
58:23
I do have one negative discussion that has
58:26
to come up.
58:27
It has to get spread far and wide.
58:28
Did you see the YouTube or the Facebook
58:31
or whatever going around about that marine
58:35
desert storm TBI victim marine in a care
58:41
center getting beat up by his caregiver?
58:44
What?
58:44
No, I didn't see that.
58:45
I'll see if I can send it to
58:48
you.
58:48
Wow.
58:50
He was in a state-run VA hospital in
58:53
New York,
58:54
and his wife was finding these bruises on
58:56
him, and he comes in,
58:57
and he's all agitated,
58:58
and he's being all kind of mean to
59:01
her.
59:02
So she puts a nanny cam in there,
59:04
hidden nanny cam,
59:05
and finds this guy hitting him with
59:07
broomsticks, punching him in the throat,
59:09
freaking picking him up by the throat and
59:12
slamming him into his chair.
59:15
Oh, God,
59:16
I was freaking living when I saw that
59:18
thing.
59:19
Now,
59:19
was that run by the VA or contracted
59:21
out by the VA?
59:22
Because, I mean,
59:23
there is a big difference.
59:25
So I'm not, you know, so I'm not.
59:28
The video says state run VA.
59:32
So I'm not sure.
59:35
Oh, my God.
59:36
Because that was pretty bad.
59:38
But, you know, that's the thing that.
59:40
Head chef needs to get in front of
59:43
President Trump ASAP.
59:44
That's not.
59:44
Oh, yeah.
59:45
That's Doug Collins.
59:48
Okay.
59:48
Well, whoever.
59:49
Secretary of the VA.
59:51
Yeah.
59:52
That's ridiculous.
59:54
No.
59:54
Holy crap.
59:56
That's just.
59:56
Oh, it's just.
59:57
That's just documented now.
1:00:00
I thought someone else was going to
1:00:01
probably bring it up.
1:00:02
But then I remembered it before we got
1:00:04
off.
1:00:04
Wow.
1:00:05
I saw it,
1:00:06
but I didn't have all the information on
1:00:07
it.
1:00:11
That's just not right, man.
1:00:14
I don't care who you are.
1:00:15
I don't care if anybody.
1:00:17
It doesn't matter who it is.
1:00:17
You shouldn't be doing stuff like that.
1:00:19
It's bad enough that it's for a veteran,
1:00:22
but it shouldn't be happening to anybody
1:00:24
in a care facility.
1:00:26
wow so let's start i you open this
1:00:30
can i mean there is a drastic shortage
1:00:33
of nurses and lpns and rns across america
1:00:37
right now and we started talking about the
1:00:40
aging population this is going to be more
1:00:42
prevalent and you're going to have until
1:00:44
they've kind of fixed this on a lower
1:00:46
level and start right-sizing hospitals
1:00:49
I think you're going to see just the
1:00:50
tip of the iceberg of what you're seeing
1:00:52
right now.
1:00:54
Really?
1:00:56
Yes.
1:00:58
I think it's a larger problem than that,
1:01:00
Jess.
1:01:01
I think we're in a generation now,
1:01:05
and I don't want to break it down
1:01:07
by age group because there's people my age
1:01:08
and even older that do stupid crap like
1:01:11
that, right?
1:01:11
Yeah.
1:01:13
But I think we're in a generational era
1:01:15
where people are not doing –
1:01:19
things like that nursing careers taking
1:01:21
care of people customer service for for
1:01:24
what it's for they're just doing it for
1:01:27
a paycheck and they could care less about
1:01:29
what happens to the person they're taking
1:01:30
care of yeah and there's a lot of
1:01:38
things right now but so true but uh
1:01:43
And that's when you start yanking licenses
1:01:45
and they're going to start yanking funding
1:01:47
and they're going to start canceling
1:01:48
contracts because that is malfeasance.
1:01:52
Yeah.
1:01:53
You know what the great thing is, though?
1:01:56
Nurse Bone is going to square all that
1:01:58
away, man.
1:01:59
He's going to make sure that our nursing
1:02:03
community and everything is going to be
1:02:05
all right.
1:02:05
Nurse Bone.
1:02:06
He'll take care of it.
1:02:07
Say his name right.
1:02:09
Nurse Dredd.
1:02:10
That's right.
1:02:11
Nurse Dredd.
1:02:13
I'm sorry.
1:02:14
Nurse Dredd.
1:02:15
He's going to take care of it now.
1:02:17
You're out there.
1:02:18
Watch out.
1:02:18
Nurse Dredd.
1:02:24
Yeah.
1:02:24
You start looking at these small rural
1:02:26
areas too when it comes to these care
1:02:28
homes, especially out here in the Midwest.
1:02:31
There is not a...
1:02:33
There is a severe staffing shortage.
1:02:36
Totally.
1:02:37
Definitely.
1:02:37
They're going into
1:02:40
and lpns especially the ones who are
1:02:42
actually doing the like they're getting it
1:02:44
and taking care of like the home health
1:02:46
care and a few other things as well
1:02:49
yeah so carrying the community from the va
1:02:54
i mean i live in a great area
1:02:56
don't get me wrong
1:02:57
But you go one hundred fifty miles outside
1:03:00
of town, it can be pretty spicy,
1:03:02
pretty quick when it comes to the
1:03:04
staffing.
1:03:06
Oh, yeah.
1:03:07
Right.
1:03:09
And it's not getting better because we're
1:03:10
living longer.
1:03:13
So speaking of living longer,
1:03:17
the hundred and one year old Robert Weber,
1:03:22
Guess what is going to be happening with
1:03:24
him?
1:03:25
He's going to join us on the July
1:03:27
fourth celebration.
1:03:28
So he's going to come on and talk
1:03:30
about what,
1:03:31
what it means to him for us to
1:03:34
turn two hundred and fifty.
1:03:35
So, wow, that's phenomenal.
1:03:37
Yeah, he he agreed to it.
1:03:40
His daughter said, yeah.
1:03:42
So, yeah, we're he's going to come on.
1:03:45
I'm very excited about him coming on.
1:03:46
I talked on Kathy yesterday about it,
1:03:49
so I was kind of jazzed about it.
1:03:51
So what does she have to say about
1:03:53
the whole thing?
1:03:54
She's heard the stories before,
1:03:56
so she's happy.
1:03:57
Yeah, that makes sense.
1:04:04
First time I ever met Robert,
1:04:06
we were going to Montana from Northern
1:04:11
South Dakota up to North Dakota,
1:04:12
picked up my cousins.
1:04:13
Then we drove out to Montana and they
1:04:15
live in pretty much Yellowstone, Florida.
1:04:19
so the ranch in yellowstone has got
1:04:21
nothing on his plan i mean he's been
1:04:23
there since the beginning of like the big
1:04:25
branch days and before everybody was going
1:04:28
out and buying ranches and you know all
1:04:30
these turners and buying like a million
1:04:32
acres and all this
1:04:34
and it's amazing that how he how he
1:04:36
bought that by the way too uh that
1:04:39
whole story is all you got to watch
1:04:40
this podcast that's all i can say you
1:04:42
got to watch them because it's pretty
1:04:44
amazing good so my cousin and i woke
1:04:48
up really early because we're like time
1:04:49
zoned out or wherever and we're gonna go
1:04:51
help out so we went in the barn
1:04:53
and we're starting to work with like some
1:04:54
of the cattle and because we grew up
1:04:57
on ranches that my cousin andy and i
1:04:59
were just like we kind of
1:05:01
knew we thought we knew we were doing
1:05:03
probably six or seven years old we didn't
1:05:05
know so he sees us in the pen
1:05:10
with the cattle and he's like get out
1:05:13
of there now i just it's like a
1:05:15
core memory got switched on because i got
1:05:18
my ass we got our ass chewed but
1:05:22
no i mean where he lives they have
1:05:23
like the the hot
1:05:25
uh spring pools there it's like a
1:05:28
geothermal pools out there as well so i
1:05:30
mean that area was just amazing i mean
1:05:33
they've done i mean it's now it's in
1:05:35
the millions of dollars for these ranches
1:05:37
but it's something else up there he's been
1:05:41
out there from back before it was cool
1:05:44
that's for sure yeah not a he's not
1:05:46
a tourist
1:05:47
Yeah, when he took over the ranch,
1:05:51
when he finally was able to purchase and
1:05:53
take it over,
1:05:54
there was not much of a house there.
1:05:57
So just to hear him talk about how
1:06:01
it was and eventually what he was able
1:06:04
to do with it is truly amazing.
1:06:07
remember the white fences and they went
1:06:09
for it seemed like forever he was those
1:06:11
building corral fence and painting them
1:06:13
all white oh wow yeah it was it's
1:06:16
an amazing house so if anybody's out there
1:06:20
uh for our audience that has not watched
1:06:23
it you need to go watch it it
1:06:24
was on uh this past thursday if i'm
1:06:27
not mistaken um is that right
1:06:30
Yesterday?
1:06:31
No.
1:06:32
No, when was it?
1:06:33
When did it come on?
1:06:35
Tuesday, this Wednesday, I think.
1:06:37
It's because I was sharing it out because
1:06:40
Yeah, it was Wednesday or Thursday.
1:06:42
I don't remember.
1:06:43
Anyways, you need to go watch it.
1:06:45
Robert Weber, that's his name.
1:06:47
It's fairly recent.
1:06:48
Just look for his name.
1:06:50
The next one will be coming out on
1:06:51
the twenty third.
1:06:52
So on Tuesday,
1:06:54
part two of his story and then part
1:06:56
three will be a little bit later because
1:06:58
we're not able to link up until a
1:07:00
little bit later.
1:07:01
But but he will be here on July
1:07:04
second for our Independence Day show.
1:07:06
So I'm excited about that.
1:07:08
So that ranch family, he's also,
1:07:10
his granddaughter, my cousin,
1:07:12
was Miss Rodeo North Dakota.
1:07:14
Oh, really?
1:07:16
Yeah.
1:07:17
They're huge in ranching and huge in
1:07:18
horses.
1:07:19
I mean,
1:07:19
they've been doing this for a long time.
1:07:22
Wow.
1:07:23
That's really cool.
1:07:25
All right.
1:07:26
Well, you guys think it's time?
1:07:29
I think it's time.
1:07:31
All righty.
1:07:41
words of wisdom we always start with a
1:07:44
book report though so let's do it book
1:07:46
report all right so it's kind of a
1:07:48
new history but it's an interesting
1:07:50
history and it's also the the part that
1:07:53
kind of always surprises me afghanistan
1:07:55
never really that it was new for us
1:07:59
and it's it was controversial at the time
1:08:01
but i think they're equating acquitting
1:08:03
themselves well it's a level zero heroes
1:08:07
and it is going to be
1:08:09
in Balamargab, Afghanistan.
1:08:12
Oh, wow.
1:08:13
It's their kind of coming out party when
1:08:17
he came to Marsok and actually controlling
1:08:19
a space.
1:08:20
So I think that these are those stories
1:08:23
that just flew under the radar because
1:08:26
they were not part of like the RC
1:08:28
East.
1:08:28
They were part of like the major effects
1:08:31
and they got handed kind of these outpost
1:08:33
areas and they fought their ass off.
1:08:37
so wow if you advance level zero heroes
1:08:40
follow mcgob and it's kind of their these
1:08:44
guys are finally they're starting they're
1:08:46
writing the stories so and yeah it's
1:08:50
always interesting to see like the
1:08:53
the JSOC Marines.
1:08:55
And because I don't, I mean, Mark,
1:08:57
you remember for the longest time that was
1:08:59
never going to happen.
1:09:00
And then it started happening.
1:09:01
So watching them kind of, I mean,
1:09:03
that first tour,
1:09:05
that was very controversial.
1:09:06
And then over the years started showing up
1:09:09
and
1:09:10
being assigned more interesting areas of
1:09:13
operations.
1:09:14
So, yeah.
1:09:16
And they were kind of Afghan specialists
1:09:19
for the longest time.
1:09:20
But I'd always recommend anything that
1:09:22
deals with something new and their
1:09:24
interpretation of transitioning from FMF
1:09:28
or Marine Recon,
1:09:30
Force Recon over to the JSOC community.
1:09:33
So that's always interesting to read.
1:09:36
Very cool.
1:09:39
Level Zero Hero.
1:09:41
I'm digging it, man.
1:09:42
There it is.
1:09:44
So go out and find it.
1:09:45
There can't be another book even remotely
1:09:47
close to that title.
1:09:50
I couldn't think there would be.
1:09:52
There's a lot of writers out there.
1:09:55
That's true.
1:09:56
A lot of books.
1:09:58
Cool.
1:10:00
Well, thanks, Jess.
1:10:00
That was awesome.
1:10:02
All right.
1:10:03
Let's jump over.
1:10:03
Mike, what do you got for us today?
1:10:09
This one is do what you feel in
1:10:11
your heart to be right because ultimately
1:10:14
you will be criticized for it anyways.
1:10:15
Oh, okay.
1:10:20
All right.
1:10:20
Very true.
1:10:21
Yeah.
1:10:22
All right.
1:10:22
Digging it.
1:10:23
All right.
1:10:24
Let's go down to the bearded wonder,
1:10:26
Aaron.
1:10:28
All right,
1:10:29
I picked one because I've seen it,
1:10:31
and it kind of reminded me of a
1:10:33
quote from my grandfather in my childhood.
1:10:38
I didn't grow up on a ranch,
1:10:39
but I grew up around a farm,
1:10:42
always out working,
1:10:43
and there would be something I couldn't
1:10:45
quite get just right.
1:10:47
And I would always say, but I can't.
1:10:50
And he'd say,
1:10:51
can't never couldn't do anything.
1:10:54
So get your butt up there and get
1:10:55
it done, except he wouldn't say but.
1:11:00
But that's not the quote.
1:11:01
The quote is,
1:11:04
success is never achieved by saying,
1:11:07
I can't.
1:11:07
All right.
1:11:12
I think you have to put them both
1:11:13
together, though.
1:11:14
I think you have to explain it.
1:11:15
Yeah, I like that, how you did that.
1:11:18
It was good.
1:11:19
Yeah, digging it.
1:11:22
Oh,
1:11:22
and there's only one book that I know
1:11:24
of.
1:11:24
It's called Validated Leadership.
1:11:26
That's right.
1:11:27
And I can't find my daggum thing for
1:11:30
it.
1:11:31
I had it uploaded and it's not here
1:11:33
anymore.
1:11:34
So I apologize.
1:11:37
Amazon.com is the best place to get that.
1:11:38
Amazon.com.
1:11:38
You can always find validated leadership.
1:11:41
Look at there.
1:11:42
Validated leadership.
1:11:44
Tested.
1:11:45
Proven.
1:11:46
Trusted.
1:11:47
Go check it out.
1:11:49
Go purchase it.
1:11:51
Make Mark a millionaire.
1:11:57
That's our goal.
1:11:59
Make Mark a millionaire.
1:12:01
We'll see.
1:12:02
All right, man.
1:12:04
He's a solid hungrier right now, right?
1:12:09
Yeah, solid hundred air.
1:12:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:11
I like it.
1:12:21
We're waiting for that humdinger.
1:12:23
It's coming.
1:12:24
We missed you on the last episode.
1:12:27
We really needed that humdinger.
1:12:29
Mike was like,
1:12:31
I don't have a humdinger for you.
1:12:33
So you got to fill us in.
1:12:36
Okay,
1:12:37
I'm going to build off of Mike and
1:12:39
Aaron on their words of wisdom.
1:12:44
Okay.
1:12:44
When you're going to make a decision,
1:12:47
if you're going to try to achieve
1:12:48
something, you've got to be decisive.
1:12:51
And don't put a wishbone where your
1:12:53
backbone should be.
1:12:56
That's good.
1:12:58
Wow.
1:12:59
That is pretty good, man.
1:13:01
Always coming in with the humdingers.
1:13:03
There we go.
1:13:04
I'm going to play it again.
1:13:14
Oh my goodness.
1:13:14
That's awesome.
1:13:16
Well, Mark,
1:13:18
thanks for always bringing that humdinger.
1:13:19
I appreciate you.
1:13:20
You know it.
1:13:21
You know it.
1:13:22
Yeah.
1:13:23
all right well i guess we'll close this
1:13:24
one out hey everybody thanks for coming on
1:13:26
and doing this truly appreciate you guys
1:13:28
uh you're an awesome crew and always have
1:13:31
a good time with you so i appreciate
1:13:33
you to everybody out there if you're
1:13:34
struggling need help anything like that
1:13:36
don't forget the va does have some good
1:13:37
resources you can always dial nine eight
1:13:38
eight press option one you can always text
1:13:41
eight three eight two five five or go
1:13:42
to veteranscrossesline.net click on that
1:13:44
chat icon any of those options will put
1:13:45
you in contact with somebody that can help
1:13:47
you out but remember one veteran life
1:13:48
losses one too many i care about you
1:13:50
the crew cares about you the whole
1:13:51
No veteran community cares about you,
1:13:52
so please reach out for help.
1:13:54
And if you're out there,
1:13:54
you're not struggling,
1:13:55
reach out to the buddies you served with,
1:13:56
ask them how they're doing.
1:13:57
If they need a helping hand, please,
1:13:58
please give it to them.
1:14:00
All right, fellas, one last time,
1:14:01
thank you very much.
1:14:02
To everybody out there, stay motivated.
1:14:04
Change your socks.
1:14:05
Change your socks.
1:14:05
No more twenty-two.
1:14:06
On to the journey and finish the fight.