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Life, Liberty, and Tomatoes from Garden Beds to Governance · SpaceTomatoes

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hey everybody welcome back to another episode of the space tomatoes podcast with your hosts havoc
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and lx hello look at that guy just just all yeah good guy if you ever had an opportunity to meet
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again we got i don't know time on our hands things to say maybe i don't know you got anything to say
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but I can say something.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that the truth always,
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So what have you been up to this week?
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Home improvement stuff.
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Painting.
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It's always fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Painting is not one of my favorite activities.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's okay.
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It's just, I don't really enjoy it that much.
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But after it's all done, it's like, eh, it looks better.
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So, you know, doing all the doors and taking all the doors off the hinges and repainting them and repainting the walls.
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I mean, it's long overdue that doing the drywall texture repair in a few spots because, you know, the dog hit a few spots.
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You know, this has been a few years in the making.
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So if we decide to get a new dog at any point, like to have things fresh and let it get messed up by the new dog, which I'm sure it will.
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Yeah. Fix it all up so it can get ruined again.
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I mean, you know, that's just basically life.
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That's how it goes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So you guys, you lined up on a dog or you still thinking?
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I'm not certain.
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Nothing solid.
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I mean, the dog doesn't exist yet, but, you know, we're thinking in the,
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in the fall, I'm going to get a puppy.
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Somewhere around November.
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Somewhere around there.
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Maybe.
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I mean, you know, however, however it works.
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mid-november sometime yeah december i don't know who knows
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heck you know i mean maybe just move on up here and you know there you go then the dogs are closer
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that's right there are lots of dogs out there so uh it's just with the with the cats we're finding
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that especially with the german shepherds that we're uh we're very fond of and i think we're
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going to continue that trend it just seems um if you don't start them when they're really small
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puppies and get them acclimated to being around the cats or other small prey type animals it's
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i don't know doesn't seem to work out i'm sure there's some dogs out there that aren't affected
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by that but we're just we're kind of want to go for the puppy thing even though i'm
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a little bit leery about doing the puppy thing because i i forgot all the the bad parts about
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about it oh boy no i don't know about germans but but you know the rottweilers i remember uh
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when when my wife and i got our first rottweiler not my first rottweiler and i i told her i said
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i just need you to understand that there are going to be like massive scenes of destruction
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that are going to happen here and there.
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It's not going to be like every day, but it will be bad.
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And I cannot understate, overstate this enough.
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It will be very, very bad.
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Do, do, do.
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Everything's fine.
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We come home one day, go into the kitchen.
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The freaking floor has been ripped up.
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And she's like, what?
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And I'm like, I tried to tell you.
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She's like, I thought maybe chewing on some furniture or something.
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Oh, that'll happen too.
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right yeah no they're i mean animals are wonderful but they they do destroy property
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there's just yeah when they're young yeah there's just no way around that i don't think it
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you know like at the time it's like man that kind of stinks but you you get over it
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yeah you know it's one of those things and they grow out of it yeah they do but all animals are
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really like that right i mean growing up we had a bird um it was a gray parrot or whatever
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and it was younger and i guess they're the same too because it would do it would just go like
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destroy stuff you know like you know curtains just eating the the tearing the curtains apart
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at the top you know like fly up and sit on the curtain rod thing and just pick the curtains apart
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right um do birds grow out of that birds can be kind of jerks i i really don't know that was my
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only experience living with birds and it really did kind of convince me for a very long time i
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wanted nothing to do with the bird in my house then at some point i i thought you know hey maybe
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and i almost got a cockatoo cockatiel right the big ones a cockatoo cockatoo yeah big big white
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cockatoo with the yellow and and he was super cool um and ended up not doing that the main reason i
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didn't do it wasn't destruction or anything like that it was just you know i'd still have the bird
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now and it wouldn't even be half through its life some of them live really long yeah 80 to like 100
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years or something and i was like yeah i was in my 20s so you know unless i'm planning to live out
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to a ripe old age of 120 something.
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That wasn't really a good plan, I didn't think.
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We had a bird.
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It flew up to me in the backyard.
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I don't know if I've told this story before.
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Then we ended up finding the lady, and she's like,
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you just want to keep him?
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He's not a very nice bird.
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I'm like, okay, I guess.
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We had him for about 10 years.
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He loved me.
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He would sit on my shoulder here.
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He'd go on my neck.
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He actually would say, bird snuggles, bird snuggles.
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But he hated my wife for whatever reason.
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And she tried to bribe him.
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She'd get him all kinds of stuff.
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I mean, you know, like everything.
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And he just hated her.
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He'd fly at her face.
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He bit her hard a few times.
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Like, draw blood.
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Like, he was a conure.
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So he was, you know, like that big.
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About as big as the microphone.
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What's a conure look like?
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Is that the green parrot?
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He was green, yeah.
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Green with red on his face.
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He was a white-eyed conure.
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Like, you know, double the size of a parakeet.
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Like a small parrot.
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You know, with the hooked beak.
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Like the kind that you really dig into your flesh if they want to.
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So, yeah.
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I mean, she tried.
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We had him for 10 years, you know, before he died.
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But, you know, she tried her best to try to turn him.
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But I think birds are kind of like one – a lot of them are just, you know,
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like one-person birds.
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They either like you or they don't like you.
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And, you know, I don't know.
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I don't know why he chose me.
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But it was in the backyard.
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I saw him in a tree, and, you know, I put my finger up, and he just flew down.
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I'm like, I guess we got a bird.
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Like, I mean, you know, we had the two German shepherds in the yard,
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and he still flew down there.
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They never really bothered him.
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I mean, one time they got up and grabbed his tail,
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and the tail feathers went in his mouth.
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I don't know.
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They didn't try to eat him.
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They just wanted to hug him, I guess.
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I don't know.
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Give him kisses on the tail.
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That's what I like to think anyway.
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Right, yeah.
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He held his own with the cats.
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Yeah, he'd come in the bathroom.
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He'd get on the curtain rod and dance around,
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and he'd go in there when you have a shower.
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I think he liked the steam maybe or something.
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But the cats would come in, he'd go down on the sink
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and the cats would bat at him.
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A little bit, not really hurting him,
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but if he got tired of it, he'd tell him.
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He'd leave him alone.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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I've had friends that have owned them and they really love them.
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They really enjoy them.
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and you know i had a great time hanging out with this bird because you know hanging out at the pet
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stop pet store um you know i i wanted to make sure i understood what i was getting myself into
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and uh but there was there was a uh uh you know the what are they they're they're the famous ones
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the the one the one everyone thinks of when they think parrot like a macaw macaw that's it
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Yeah, the macaw there.
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The blue and gold ones, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And they would get these little sticks, like bundles of sticks that were like wrapped together like this.
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And the sole purpose on that, I guess, is to keep their beak in shape or something.
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This thing would just crunch straight through.
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Like, I mean, you couldn't break this bundle of sticks.
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Oh, yeah.
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And you just.
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it's like man i can't imagine that it'd take a pinky off it probably could probably bite your
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finger right off dang it was a nice nice parrot though yeah thankfully i i think that has a lot
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to do with you know how how they're raised how how well they're socialized and how much they're
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handled when they're little you know you just get a bird that's been stuck in a cage all by itself
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and not really handled and then you try to do it it's probably not going to go over so well
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right yeah yeah and and i think that's probably that's probably it because they had they had like
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you know a number of birds at this place it was really nice nice you know private shop it wasn't
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like a pet smart you know funnel for bad behavior right um it was uh really cool and they they you
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know they had the section where they had all the birds and then they'd had another section that you
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had to have staff to go into and those were birds that they had taken in right and were working with
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because they had behavioral issues biting being one of them right and so they didn't just let
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people in there because you know you're good you're probably going to get bit and it's going
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to hurt a lot blood you know i mean they are smart and then i think they get bored you know
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if they don't have enough, you know, I don't want to say toys or, you know,
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some kind of outlet for their, for their,
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I don't know what I'm trying to say.
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Aggression against being a cage.
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Something like that.
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But if they are just locked up in a cage all day, you know,
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people not paying attention to them,
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they do get either destructive or they get like they pull all their feathers
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out and then they never grow back.
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A lot of the cases, you know, they do.
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stuff to get them in trouble kind of like humans i guess yeah you put a bunch of humans in a cage
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and it doesn't work out well yeah i mean we've got a lot of history and and proof of this it's
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very evident you know there's this thing called recidivism rate that uh shows pretty plainly that
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what we're doing does not work and it's not that people are broken it's basically you know
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you take someone put them in a you know essentially gladiator school for years
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when you put them back outside of that environment that all they know that what they that what they lived you know and you you know it just a tough thing to overcome so what does work like shot collars
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i would say actually no i think honestly you know something more along the lines of the carrot as
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opposed to the stick uh is is a better way of doing this and looking at it from the standpoint
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of actual like rehabilitation right so by the same token you don't take a bird that has the
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the power of flight and put it in a little cage and leave it there right it needs you know like
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even ours you know there was you know daily times where you would let the bird cage open so that the
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bird could you know fly around the house you know and it enjoyed that that was fun time for it you
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know yeah um i don't know i think some people don't respond so well unless they're there's a
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consequence for their action i mean there are certain there are certain countries in the world
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where they do not steal like people just don't do it because because if you do there are
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consequences to that like you'll be a short a hand short at the end of the day yeah no i i'm not
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saying no consequences, right? But like, you know, I guess for me, well, we've already talked about
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this, right? Victimless crimes in the first place are a problem, but you take like a drug user and
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you're like, okay, well, you, you've got this illegal substance on you and you're, you know,
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you're, you're, you know, by the looks of you not doing so well, but you know, whatever your
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situation is, you know, you're not, you know, in good health, et cetera. Obviously some things
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messed up, you know? Uh, so let me put you in a cage with a bunch of people that have stabbed,
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murdered, you know, raped, et cetera, people. And you know, that'll, that'll fix your problem,
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right? No, it's going to make the over the, the underlying issue even more severe in that,
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you know, the only thing you want is to not be in that life. That's it. And there's no,
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there's no incentive to change there's no you know like let me let me put you through you know
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a rehabilitation program get you real training for a skill a trade uh something you know and and
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then it perpetuates outside of that once you're in that system then you know it's even harder to
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find employment right uh and so it's just like you just basically perpetuate this cycle um and
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there's no, there's really zero thought going into rehabilitation. You know, it's all punitive.
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There's nothing but punitive aspect to it. It's all it is. And, and again, consequences need to
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be there. No question, right? You can't go and do, you know, bad stuff to other people, harm other
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people without consequence. But at the same time, if you want that behavior to change, there has to
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be something put into that whole process to affect some form of change you see what i'm saying
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i do see what you're saying i i all i know i i'm ready for my own island
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take it away from it all yeah same i've been ready
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if i win the lottery i literally i'm gonna find somewhere on earth that i can just go
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and buy a very large chunk of land and just be left alone.
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Just leave me alone.
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That's all.
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I'm not asking for this or that or the other thing.
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I just want you to leave me alone.
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Just let me live my life.
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Even if you have a large swath of property and you invite your friends
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and like-minded people there, the government doesn't seem to like that
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very much for some reason.
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And there's a very fine line between building a community and building a cult.
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I don't know where that line actually is drawn, but it, you know, like the stuff you actually see on TV, I'm sure people have made it successfully, but you know, it's the bad ones that always make it, you know, the dramas that my wife watches.
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And I'm like, man, I don't want that to happen.
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you never you never ever turn on the news and watch like solid good news about people prospering
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and everything else unless it's like some you know tech leader just became the first richest man in
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the world or something it's like okay who cares but you don't hear about all the success stories
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there there are quite a few intentional communities that are very successful there are definitely some
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that turn into cults.
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You know, there's also the stigma, right?
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You look at the whole conspiracy theory thing, right?
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20 years ago, a conspiracy theorist was a kook, a whack job,
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someone that just like had tinfoil walls in their house
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and, you know, all this crap.
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And today you realize that's not what it's about.
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These people are looking into things that way too much coincidence involved or some obvious non-factual pieces of information to an event or, you know, people that were involved in something that make it suspicious, et cetera.
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And it's no longer like the kooky, wacky, tinfoil room, that kind of stuff. I'm not saying that that's probably something that exists, but the same thing happens with the cult. You look at Waco, for example, the cult at that church. They started a church. They had their own religious beliefs. You could argue that any religious church could be seen as a cult.
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I mean, honestly, what do you do? You go there to listen to the word and you, you give money and time and, you know, you make that your community and you guys hang out, you know, after work you do, you know, get togethers at each other's houses.
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And, you know, I mean, it's starting to sound awful cultish, right? Or let's see, you know, football fans, freaking cult, dude.
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That's true.
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Political cult.
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Right. But nobody actually looks at that and goes, well, that's a cult, right? They look at the stuff that they think, well, that's wacky. Yeah. Okay. Some of it's just flat out wacky, you know, like the, the, the hail bop people, you know, like, you know, Jim Jones. Okay. That's, that's not good. But like Waco was just peaceful people living their lives. From what I can understand.
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Yeah, no, the dude was taking all the women and kind of hoarding them for himself.
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That's when the weird kind of stuff comes in.
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No, and I'm not saying that that's not weird.
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But as far as I'm aware, nobody was forced to stay there.
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Nobody at any point was like, you have to be here.
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It was like, if you want to leave, leave.
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Yeah, I think sometimes easily manipulated people
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or are kind of drawn into them things.
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Even, you know, but I mean, that's not to say they're not intelligent.
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Sometimes intelligent people are caught up in that stuff too.
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But then, you know, you got one guy telling you,
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you got to turn your wife over to him and they go for it.
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You know, like, I don't know, something ain't right here.
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But which one's the not right one?
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I guess.
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Honestly.
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I mean, what did they actually get them on like weapons charges or something?
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Right.
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Because they were getting like illegally.
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Suspicion.
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suspicion of weapons they they they but they sent an undercover guy in there right to sell
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them something or buy something no they tried to that would that was you're thinking of okay
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similar they they believed that they were in possession of materials to turn uh semi-automatic
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rifles into fully automatic rifles that's that's all it turns out they didn't find any evidence of
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that uh you know just just decided to kill you know 83 men women and babies you know babies
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literal children like toddler babies you know stuff like that and then the fbi of course you
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know posed with pictures over the corpses of some of these burnt bodies you know like yeah
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like you fucking idiots you know what i mean it's like at the end of the day all of that could have
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happened without a single shot fired all they had to do is just wait someone to leave oh we can't
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wait why well they might they might but they're not but they could they could but they aren't and
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they didn't and they they weren't going to you could have just waited for someone to make a
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supply run into town and just nab them in a traffic stop you know what i mean instead of
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going raiding a fricking home and killing people and burning the place to the ground
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and causing, you know, what should have been the absolute, I don't know.
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At that point, it should have been if who spice pushed the button tonight.
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Yeah.
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If I were in any form of leadership at that point, that would have been the end of that
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agency entirely gone.
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All of it done.
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We're starting over.
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we cannot have this crap period especially after ruby ridge happened
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and that was all because they suspected him of having a shotgun that had you know a barrel
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shorter than the allowable yeah that's kind of crazy this guy living in the middle of freaking
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nowhere harming no one just trying to live his life and be left alone and you know we end up
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with the result that we got.
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The actual gun laws are kind of crazy.
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How adding a stock to it makes it, you know,
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from a rifle to a pistol and like,
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it's the same stupid thing.
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Yeah, well, all that stuff's unconstitutional anyway.
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And the ATF doesn't have the authority
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to just create legislation.
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That's not their, it's not,
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they don't have the right to do that.
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That's not their job.
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You are not Congress.
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You're an agency.
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You don't just get to go, oh, yeah, we're going to deem that illegal now.
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And if you have one, you're going to jail.
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But I bought it when it was legal.
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Too bad.
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You know what?
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Fuck you.
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Man, you're angry today.
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I am.
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I'm just angry at all of that stuff.
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You know how I feel about this.
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We should have just stayed talking about puppies and birds.
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Puppies and birds.
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Way better topic.
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Very happy topic.
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How's the gardens going?
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they're all pretty much crispy and dead almost yeah cactus is coming up yeah no i had a
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had a pineapple so we had three pineapples out there and we have them caged off we use the
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aluminum gutter guards it's like you know aluminum mesh things to encapsulate the pineapple so things
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don't eat it they ate right through the metal i think it was a i you should post that picture up
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show people it's kind of crazy like they ate right through the wire mesh of the uh the gutter
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guard to get to the pineapple but i didn't care i i harvested it and i cut that portion out and i
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ate it myself and it was delicious i would imagine it was may want to and i will put that up but you
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might want to try hardware clock i am going to try well that's what we have uh covering the other one
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but everybody was saying no these gutter guards were great yeah that not if you have a determined
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squirrel apparently yeah they're they're pretty funny as far as you know their strength they're
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very they're probably great for most things and they're super platinum right they're just like
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you grab one of those things and it just wants to well they're kind of you know they're like half
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round so you take two of them and like make a clamshell on the the pineapple so you know they
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the other thing people do is take um the cheap steel waste baskets from a dollar store or
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something and before it gets too big you cut the bottom out of it and then you put it over the
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pineapple and then you take another one and kind of put it together you know the big end touching
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the big end and you zip tie it on there so that can grow inside there but you got to do it you know while it still forming or otherwise it won fit and apparently that works okay maybe you know we got like probably 30 plants out there now so we gonna have to figure
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something out i think you could fashion up something with just some 10 snips and some
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hardware cloth yeah and make them reusable too i would hope so yeah those uh those squirrels are
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voracious man they know exactly when they're ready too like they they were waiting and it didn't look
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like ready. It was still, you know, fairly green, just a tiny, tiny bit of yellow on it,
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but it was, it was ready to be eaten. We pulled our first cantaloupe. Nice.
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It wasn't quite all the way done, but very, very close. Very tasty. Awesome.
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We got about 20 or some more. I did have a volunteer watermelon that came from somewhere.
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I'm not really sure where, but it kind of exploded.
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I think the rain just grew too fast and split.
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Unfortunately, I got like a softball size and just split open.
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Yeah.
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And that's going to be variety dependent too.
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Some of them are really just you could do pretty much anything too,
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and they don't seem to split.
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I mean, I didn't plant it.
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I don't work.
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The only thing I can think of is that I gave the chicken some scraps,
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and then we took the chicken manure and put it around some,
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the banana trees and it just kind of came up through there.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, probably.
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Those squash, tomatoes, those are all the kinds of seeds
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that I'm aware of.
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They all will survive composting and they'll just pop up.
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So, you know, pumpkins, but that's a squash.
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So, yeah, that kind of stuff.
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It's pretty amazing.
27:47
Like we, you know, our compost tomatoes every year.
27:49
Now we have this ginormous patch of tomatoes that grows.
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It's the best looking tomatoes I've ever seen.
27:56
But we don't prune them.
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We don't trellis them.
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We don't water them.
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We don't even look at them.
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We just go out there when we dump compost, pick out tomatoes and leave.
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And they're always great tomatoes too.
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Just, it's amazing, you know, which led us to doing a bunch of the experiments that we
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had done with tomatoes, including what happens if you take a whole row of tomatoes? Like I think
28:22
we planted something like, you know, 32 plants. What happens if you take 32 tomato plants and
28:29
just don't do anything? I mean, water them, but nothing else. It turns out they produce just about
28:37
the same amount of tomatoes and you don't do anything to them. The big drop, and we also
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learned in doing that because everyone says you know we oh you've got to you know keep your
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tomatoes trellis you don't want your fruit to the fruit to touch the ground right because it'll rot
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right you've heard that of course i have literally picked tomatoes out of the the dirt to where half
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of them were like really stuck in the dirt washed them off and they're perfect done that whole
29:07
experiment two years we did that you would think some kind of insect would get to them start eating
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them? They, they seem to do better. Wow. They seem to do a lot better. Right. I don't know why.
29:19
No, no idea. Um, the one massive drawback is, you know, the tomato vines, right? So they literally
29:29
vine out all over the place. And then the, the drawback is getting the tomatoes, right? It's not
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the production. It's not where they're sitting or anything like that. We didn't have any issues with
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any of that the only issue is you'd be stepping on vines and stuff trying to get into a tangled
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mess to get a cluster of tomatoes out we had one plant we let do that and then it made so many that
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they were all inside it you really couldn't even get to them without kind of destroying the plant
29:58
and the process yep and that's and and that's the main drawback but it taught me a lot
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about the reality of the situation right now for for you know harvesting for actually getting two
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tomatoes for you know management for a lot of reasons pruning is good right i'm never going
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to tell anyone there's a bad idea to do what i will tell people is it's absolutely not essential
30:25
it just is not go go try it yourself um you'll you'll i was blown away and and i again we repeated
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it the next year and in different places that time to find out was this just an anomaly no it's not
30:41
um at least not what we were seeing right maybe we just got some fundamentally different
30:48
you know vibe going on in the world over here in our little corner of the universe that tomatoes
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seem to break all the rules on not all of them i'm pretty sure gardening is just a series of
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experiments based on wherever you particularly live,
31:03
because the way you grow stuff is completely different than the way we have to
31:07
grow stuff, you know, like, Oh yeah.
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Without question. I mean, you know, right off the bat, the zones, you know,
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are a great base point,
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but I'm in the same zone as someone in Southern California.
31:23
We are not the same. So yeah, it's a great base point,
31:28
But it's not the same.
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I've got humidity that's going to give me powdery mildew every year.
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It's just going to happen.
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I don't even bother trying to do anything about it.
31:38
I just go, well, here it is again.
31:40
And then the new sets of leaves come and it doesn't have it.
31:44
And I'm like, great.
31:45
It's just what we do.
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You're not going to see that in California or the desert, Nevada, Arizona, et cetera.
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But you may be in the same zone.
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So I agree with that.
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And I encourage people, if you're gardening and you're not trying stuff just to see what happens, you're doing yourself a disservice, honestly.
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Yeah, you can't even go by what the zone is on a lot of the seed packages because it doesn't quite correlate where you are specifically.
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You just have to try it.
32:19
If it works, it works.
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If it doesn't, you can either try it again or try something new.
32:24
yeah other than is the only
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looking at max temps and min temps soil temp i i think is more critical than looking at your zone
32:38
but at the same time stay inside your zone there's reasons right like they're apple trees don't grow
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in florida i don't care what you get it's just not going to happen unless you've got a nice walk-in
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freezer you can put your apple tree into for a few weeks yeah there's actually two types of apples
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that say they grow in florida we actually have two of them they anna and i forget what the other one
32:59
we have the trees out there i don't know if they'll ever produce maybe maybe not i mean we've
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got two little ones about the size of a quarter but you know i don't know but right now they don't
33:10
look uh all the leaves are kind of curled up and they're just trying to make it through
33:15
yeah yeah that's the other thing right the the extreme sun and and the temps right between
33:23
yeah it's just and hey that's neat i did not know they had a variety for that
33:29
it's kind of like the but we we also like found a variety of banana that's supposed to grow
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here how'd that work out for you it melted it melted the second it hit freezing it was
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dead, melted.
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Even here, I don't think it's warm enough.
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Ours decided to fruit
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right before we got a week of cold
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and then the whole bunch
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died and it was like, okay,
33:57
that was a waste. Because after they do that,
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then the plant's done.
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Yeah, one time.
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You got a one shot.
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But the cool thing is, they did come back
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and now we have
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a decorative banana tree.
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Well, three of them.
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You can dig it up every year and bring it inside.
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Yeah, no, this is a big banana tree, not a dwarf.
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It's pretty large.
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I mean, it's, you know, you saw it.
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It was what, 12 feet high?
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Oh, was it that big?
34:27
Wow, okay.
34:28
Yeah, well, I mean, with the leaves and everything, right?
34:30
I mean, the actual tree, if we cut all the leaves off.
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We got the little ones.
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We have the dwarf ones.
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I think the other ones are too big.
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I don't know how we'd pick them.
34:40
I couldn't find this variety in Dwarf.
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Oh, okay.
34:44
And so I was like, all right, well, we'll get this.
34:46
Because originally the idea was we would bring it in somehow, right?
34:52
Maybe put it in like a 30-gallon, 50-gallon pot or something
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and get like a hand truck for it.
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All right.
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But.
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Not going to work.
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Yeah.
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No, it's too big.
35:06
I mean, we could put it in our living room because we do have vaulted ceilings, but it'd be the whole living room.
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Yeah.
35:14
It doesn't seem very practical.
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No, not really.
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No.
35:18
It'd look cool, though.
35:19
That'd be pretty interesting.
35:20
Dude, you have a banana tree growing in your house.
35:24
I'm sure the cat might like it.
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Yeah.
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Well, maybe.
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I don't know.
35:30
Our cat's not very cat-like, cat-ish.
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he's he's got he's do you ever see that that meme i think i i posted a long time ago
35:42
and it's got the cat outside and it like runs out and you know it's just you know charges up this
35:48
tree and across a branch and then it flips over to another cat on a patio with like a ficus tree
35:55
and it's like it's like can't figure out how to get on the tree at all no you'll have to send it
36:00
to me again if you find it yeah that's that's our cat the second all right not the first one
36:06
yeah i don't i don't think our cats would be uh very good wild cats we make fun of them all the
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time like i don't think it lasts two seconds i tried to take him outside one day to like see
36:16
the chickens and she freaked out like i thought she would like to see them but no you're not
36:23
interested at all she's like put me back inside yeah yeah yeah um yeah he's he he's not a he's
36:32
he's not the best cat of a cat of he's a good cat he's a good house cat but he's yeah like he's no
36:41
domino that's for sure you know domino is our barn cat one of our barn cats by the way and he's
36:47
the consummate cat and he's the best cat in the world sorry everybody we we found him and he's just
36:56
awesome he just loves everyone and he kills everything i mean everything like birds mid
37:04
flight tag right out of the air just like what
37:07
he's a good dude nice
37:12
earns his keep i guess
37:15
yeah i suppose i suppose you still having those uh possums poking around your barn
37:21
or they kind of take off and leave uh no that was just during a pretty heavy storm
37:27
yeah didn't see him in there ever again yeah every once in a while we'll have one
37:33
come around get kind of relocated yeah um we have been having something come into the chicken coop so
37:42
i did end up getting cameras no you did yeah all those chinese companies are going to know when
37:49
you're coming and going now i made sure they have no cloud connection okay they do operate over wi-fi
37:56
but there is no cloud connection.
37:58
That's what they tell you anyway.
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Well, I've got means and methods to make sure that that's the case.
38:06
Actually, I just saw a thing about Ring.
38:08
I guess Ring is going to give the police access to footage without warrants now.
38:15
Isn't that kind of crazy?
38:15
They haven't been.
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No, they have been.
38:17
Oh, okay.
38:19
Yeah, I don't have Ring.
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But if you do.
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They have been.
38:25
They've also been, you know, Alexa has a feature as well as some of the other ones where they can detect through radio frequency.
38:40
They have a radio frequency chip on them, which why?
38:45
Why do you need low bandwidth?
38:47
with, well, it turns out that it's for the thing
38:49
to be able to determine if there's another thing close
38:53
within a mile or something, not a mile.
38:56
I think it like I don remember the distance It a pretty decent range It low power radio frequency And so what they can also do is get information from those things
39:11
Interesting.
39:12
Yeah.
39:12
And then, of course, you've heard about all the flock cameras, right?
39:16
And I've been seeing them.
39:18
We usually don't go out that much, but every time we go out now,
39:21
and they're pretty nondescript.
39:22
It's like a pole with, I don't know, it's a 12 inch or so, uh, solar panel up top and a little black camera about the size of this thing.
39:32
And yeah, I mean, it's not advertised like that's what it is, but that's exactly what it is.
39:39
Yeah.
39:39
Yeah.
39:40
And now with the Palantir rollout.
39:42
No, what is it?
39:43
Uh, Palantir.
39:44
I haven't heard of that.
39:46
Oh my goodness.
39:49
Uh, yeah, we'll have to, we'll have to.
39:52
dig into that one on a session because that's a pretty big one.
39:56
I'm curious about the Flock cameras.
39:57
What do they actually do with that information?
40:00
And then we saw something neat driving down the road the other day,
40:02
and my wife was like, what is on the back of that car?
40:04
And it wasn't a police car.
40:06
It was just like a Toyota Corolla or something.
40:09
It has those license plate reading cameras on the back.
40:12
And I assumed it was like a repo company or something.
40:15
I don't know what it is.
40:17
But I guess private companies have access to those databases now too.
40:22
It could be repo.
40:23
It's also another way that a lot of the times public employees capture data that they're not allowed to capture on their own.
40:36
Because they can actually get that data if it's from a private company that's selling that data.
40:43
But they can't go and surveil everyone themselves.
40:46
But it's not illegal to publicly surveil whoever the heck you want as a company.
40:52
all righty then yeah yeah yeah and what they're for is they do license plate reading uh i believe
41:00
they also have facial recognition and uh you know behavioral patterns movement patterns as well so
41:08
like your walk can be identified the way you walk your your posture your gait your stride
41:16
you know all of that stuff the link from your knee to your ankle from your from your knee to
41:22
your you know hip joint elbow you know all of these points of data can be taken to give
41:29
a fairly accurate uh picture of a person so you could tell that you know that's lx walking
41:37
in a group of people without ever seeing the face right now my wife was watching some tv show that
41:43
She watches like some spy kind of thing or something.
41:46
And, you know, these people, this is all fake.
41:49
And, you know, this is for the TV show.
41:51
But people broke into this warehouse and they all had, you know, balaclavas on.
41:54
And, you know, they're, oh, we can't identify more.
41:56
Like, you know, and one guy's, oh, we actually, we have software that can identify people through the soft facial coverage.
42:02
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they really had software that does that now.
42:08
They do.
42:09
They have for a while.
42:10
The problem is the accuracy, right?
42:13
You can't go after someone and then defend it in court if there's even like a 6% chance you're wrong.
42:21
6% is huge.
42:22
That means out of 100 people, you'll get it wrong six times.
42:26
So what are you going to do, convict six innocent people?
42:30
And no, I'm sorry, I'm in the camp of I'd rather 1,000 guilty men go free than one innocent person be punished.
42:39
I'm sorry, that should never happen.
42:41
I did see, I want to say, I think it was in Georgia, but I'm not 100% sure, where this guy got picked up for, they thought he robbed a bank because the facial recognition software tagged him as the guy that was on the bank video robbing the bank.
42:57
And come to find out, it wasn't him.
42:59
He had a solid alibi.
43:00
He was never even near that place.
43:04
But still, I mean, they dragged him to jail.
43:05
He was sitting there for days or a week or whatever until they could get it sorted out.
43:11
that's kind of crazy.
43:13
Yeah.
43:14
And that actually happened in the United States.
43:16
Yeah.
43:16
I think it was in,
43:17
yeah.
43:17
Like the state of Georgia.
43:19
I'm pretty sure it was.
43:20
Oh,
43:20
okay.
43:21
Yeah.
43:21
Yeah.
43:21
Yeah.
43:21
Yeah.
43:22
Yeah.
43:22
Yep.
43:23
Yeah.
43:23
Then that's,
43:24
that's,
43:24
that's insane.
43:25
And that's what Palantir does.
43:27
That's,
43:28
that's a big,
43:29
they track,
43:29
trace,
43:30
analyze.
43:31
You can think of them as our,
43:32
our new pre-crime department where they'll literally analyze your social,
43:38
All of your psychology based on your life, all of the recorded stuff, people don't understand how pervasive this is.
43:48
They literally play on your psychology, right?
43:51
But they can literally sit there and model your psychology and then look at your behavioral patterns and where you're going, who you're hanging out with, who those people hang out with, what they do online, where there are points of interaction, what groups you may be a member of.
44:08
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
44:09
And then, you know, categorize you into like a threat risk model.
44:16
Right.
44:16
I want to see my file.
44:19
Well, the, the, the really fucked up thing about that is now it's going through all of
44:25
government.
44:26
They're, they're putting it in for healthcare as well.
44:31
So all of government, uh, local, everything, right.
44:36
It's, and it's all going to be tied together.
44:38
We're now going to have a nice nifty database that tracks, trace, analyzes, and categorizes and assigns threat modeling.
44:46
And in some cases, points out individuals that may be about to commit a crime.
44:52
So, you know, of course, you need to intervene on someone that might do something in the future.
44:56
It's all about your safety.
44:59
Right, right.
45:00
There was a book about this, wasn't there?
45:02
I don't know.
45:03
What was it?
45:04
19 something or I don't know, 84 or whatever.
45:07
I've never read that.
45:09
I think I saw the movie.
45:11
Maybe some of it.
45:12
I don't think I've read the whole thing or saw the whole movie.
45:15
It's pretty chilling.
45:17
It's really chilling.
45:18
It really is.
45:19
Especially if you read it today and start really paying attention to what's going on with Palantir and the flock cameras and the linking of all the different agencies and everything else.
45:33
This is literally that now.
45:35
it's it's not a joke it really isn't you know and then you you think about some of the the you know
45:43
most notable quote quotes in that book and it's like you are here this this is not like a fiction
45:51
novel you are literally here interesting yeah i mean at some point we might reach that uh
45:59
that place where they make you have some kind of thing to buy or sell or trade,
46:05
you know, like you have to take this mark.
46:10
Well, I mean, if you listen to our new health and human service,
46:17
what is it?
46:18
Health and human services leader, you know, Mr. Kennedy.
46:25
I try not.
46:26
I try to stay away from the news as much as possible,
46:29
but it tries to follow me sometimes.
46:32
Like, here, look at this.
46:33
I'm like, no, please.
46:35
He's been a big advocate that a lot of people were behind
46:39
because of what he was saying.
46:42
He has now basically flip-flopped on just about all of that stuff.
46:48
Let me take that back.
46:50
I can't say just about all.
46:51
What I will say is he has flip-flopped on some of the most major portions of that
46:56
and is now saying, no, no, I'm still on your side.
47:01
This is just a nuanced take.
47:03
No, jackass, you went backwards.
47:06
At one point you said wearables are the digital prison of the future
47:12
or something akin to that.
47:14
And now you're saying you want every American alive to wear one of these.
47:21
Really? I haven't heard that yet.
47:23
Within the next four years.
47:24
Not going to happen.
47:25
Well, not for me anyway.
47:28
I mean, it might happen for everybody else.
47:30
It ain't happening for me.
47:31
I can guarantee you that 100%.
47:34
Same here.
47:36
Same here.
47:37
And no, just no.
47:40
And then he was all against the mRNA ever being on the vaccine schedule.
47:48
Not ever, but being on the vaccine schedule, he was proponent of choice
47:54
in that in that matter uh in fact most mostly across the board and then apparently he went
48:01
on vacation as a staffers uh without his knowledge which i'm sorry i'm just going to call bullshit
48:07
because it's bullshit right i can smell it from here and his staffers approved the the mrna
48:17
shots for children six months old and already and and he came back and apparently was like very
48:25
upset so he fired the people okay it's been like a month and a half why haven't you fucking
48:31
rescinded it if you didn't want that to be the case in other words you are a liar you're a shill
48:39
you're a grifter you're a con man that's what you kind of all are just like the rest of the people
48:45
around there yep exactly they are yeah i don't know as far as the uh mrna stuff i i was it five
48:53
years now i i still have yet to regret my decision to to not take that stuff yeah see i'm in the same
49:02
camp yeah i i have zero regrets about not wearing a mask i have zero regrets about not following
49:09
social distancing i have zero regrets about not getting a shot period i i just don't have i'm sure
49:16
i'm on a list somewhere because of it but that's okay right yeah i don't really care i you know i
49:23
literally had staples put in the back of my head uh and didn't wouldn't take novocaine for it like
49:31
just go doc and he's like well this is gonna hurt i'm like i'm aware of that he's like it's just
49:38
novocaine i'm like after my interaction with your nurse over there you're not getting near me
49:43
all all trust zero trust so yeah i know probably novocaine but i can't be certain of that
49:52
and uh you know so you're just going to do it without any and so no you're definitely on the
49:58
list right he wanted to do sutures and i'm like yeah great do them he goes well that's going to
50:04
take longer you i'm like i don't care he goes well staples are hurt more but go a little quicker i'm
50:10
like just pick one i don't care i'll be fine i will make it through this it's not the worst thing
50:16
i've ever felt in my life and i'll get through it and i'm not letting you near me with a freaking
50:21
syringe period i i applaud your uh commitment i don't i don't know i don't know how do you trust
50:32
No, I understand 100%.
50:35
Especially when you find out that people were getting vaccinated without their consent, in some cases against their will, in the guise of keeping you safe.
50:54
Or, hey, there's enough evidence out there right now that that was just literally to make money.
51:00
And that's fucked up.
51:02
Let me just say this real clearly.
51:05
First, do no harm.
51:09
Period.
51:10
That's the one thing.
51:13
You have one job.
51:15
I mean, it is a little concerning when you see, you know, five years later that these doctors were getting bonuses based on how many times they were giving out these shots.
51:26
Isn't that?
51:27
Oh, yeah.
51:28
Well, they do today.
51:29
That's kind of weird.
51:30
They still do.
51:31
They have.
51:32
Yeah, the pharmaceutical companies put out great incentives to push their new meds, to push vaccination, to increase the rate of vaccination, etc. And I'm not going to sit here and tell anyone to or not to vaccinate. That's your choice, 100%. And it should always be. It should never be anyone else's choice, period.
51:58
it. Okay. And, you know, at the same time, it's
52:05
freaking slimy as you can get to have drug manufacturers paying doctors to use their
52:14
medication that's that's that i don't know how much slimier can you get than that you know even
52:24
these advertisements that you see and you can't go anywhere without seeing them for medications
52:29
you can't go out and buy them you have to go to your doctor and say like hey i saw this on you
52:35
know tv or i saw it on youtube or facebook that i want that like half the time they don't even tell
52:41
you what it's for right it's just why would they have advertisements for stuff that you cannot
52:48
go and directly buy it well first they go and they incentivize the doctors and get them to sign up
52:55
on a program and once they've got a good network of all these doctors out here that are agreed into
53:01
that program they push the advertising and you'll notice in the advertising they say ask your doctor
53:07
if i'm just going to throw one in there ask your doctor if ozempic is right for you now everyone
53:14
goes to their doctor and goes fuck dude i want to lose weight and i don't want to do anything i just
53:19
want you know just give me a shot uh i heard about this ozempic stuff is it right for me and
53:24
the doctor goes there's your prescription you're like well you didn't i don't need right it's right
53:30
for everyone do you know why it's right for everyone well let me let me just tell you this
53:36
this you know package i get per shot that i prescribe you know it's right for me baby the
53:45
craziest thing any of these ads are like do not take this if you were allergic to or whatever it
53:51
is and i'm like how the heck would you know at least you take it and then you find out you're
53:56
allergic to it like and then they have a you know 30 second commercial 15 seconds of that is telling
54:02
you all the bad things that it can do at the end i'm like why would you take that but again it
54:08
exactly and death what can sign me up dude but it should be a choice if you want dude if you want
54:19
to go play in the street in traffic i mean i think it should be your choice to do so just you know like
54:23
things might happen yeah i mean yeah yeah you know the you're kind of screwing yeah that one i might
54:34
take a little yeah i mean okay go for it but you know i just feel bad for like poor old grandma
54:41
driving back and some yo-yo goes and exercises their their right to stand in the freeway and
54:47
she hits the dude and kills him and then she's got to live with that for the rest of her life
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you know that's that's that's the that would be the part that would bother me about that but yeah
54:57
i mean if you want to go you know if you want to go do stupid things and uh you know play stupid
55:04
games and win stupid prizes go for it man just don't hurt other people just just don't harm like
55:11
skydiving it's inherently dangerous but i think you should be able to do it i just you know i just
55:16
don't want to do it by myself and i can't convince anybody to do it with me
55:19
i'll go yeah you'll go with me
55:25
to observe back on the ground because i'm staying i only want to do it once
55:31
that's all it takes man it's all it takes it looks fun it does look like a lot of fun
55:39
it does but yeah and then you yeah then you yeah no i don't know i saw a reel the other day like
55:47
one of these these you know uh you know darwin awards type for reels or something but it wasn't
55:54
like they didn't do anything stupid it was just parrot it was skydiving issues i don't i think
56:02
everyone recovered from these issues but yeah no thanks like oh fuck my my shoot didn't open and
56:08
or it opened and it's all tangled up and it's starting to wrap around my
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fucking body.
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And now I've got to cut all this crap loose in time to be able to throw my,
56:17
my spare,
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you know,
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or whatever you call it.
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And it's like,
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yeah,
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that's,
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that's not an amusement,
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right.
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I'm,
56:24
I want to sign up for man,
56:26
you know,
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like,
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no,
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thanks.
56:28
I just,
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yeah.
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Yeah.
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That,
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that'd be a very long,
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you know,
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10 seconds trying to recover from an issue.
56:37
Oh, it's going to be like the longest 10 seconds, right?
56:40
Like ever.
56:40
Oh, yeah.
56:41
Yes, yes.
56:43
All the while your brain is screaming at you.
56:47
I'm going to die.
56:51
Yeah.
56:53
The ground's going like this.
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It's approaching very rapidly.
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Yeah.
57:00
No, thanks.
57:01
No.
57:03
No, I would like to go skydiving.
57:05
Who knows?
57:06
I think my back would probably get screwed up.
57:07
How about the indoor thing with the fan?
57:09
I mean, that's not as dangerous, right?
57:12
I would totally be down for that.
57:14
I think they have that in Charlotte.
57:16
They do.
57:18
They do.
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Yeah.
57:19
I'd be down for that.
57:20
If you want to do that, book an extra day.
57:23
Of course, we'd have to lie.
57:24
I did look them up before, and they say you can't have any prior shoulder injuries or surgeries or nothing.
57:31
No, of course not.
57:34
What?
57:34
What are you talking about?
57:36
metal detector away
57:41
I don't got no metal
57:43
I'd pass that but
57:44
I don't know
57:46
it's stronger now
57:49
I'm fine
57:50
I'm fine
57:52
I'd do it
57:56
if you want to do it I'm down
57:58
book an extra day at Shea Havoc
58:01
and
58:01
we can go ahead down there
58:05
I don't think the whole crew would be into it.
58:07
Maybe.
58:07
I think there'd be a few people.
58:10
They'd probably like to observe.
58:12
Oh, that's true.
58:14
That's true.
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Yeah.
58:17
Yeah.
58:17
We can check it out.
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I'll start researching that.
58:20
That might be a lot of fun.
58:21
Or we can just do karaoke, whatever you want to do.
58:26
Karaoke honestly sounds like a blast, man.
58:29
Just, you know, get everybody, you know, in a nice place.
58:32
We'll, you know, get the music.
58:34
Maybe we can just rent a nice system for the day and entertain your neighbors.
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Yeah.
58:45
We can start at like 10 or 11 p.m.
58:50
On Saturday night, just right before.
58:54
Things are well in that category right now.
58:58
I have one real neighbor, one.
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I wouldn't want to do that, though.
59:04
They're good folks.
59:05
They really are.
59:07
I wouldn't appreciate if somebody did that to me,
59:10
so I wouldn't do that to somebody else.
59:12
Yeah, I mean, it was like two in the morning.
59:14
It was.
59:16
We were like a bunch of howler monkeys out there.
59:19
I agree.
59:20
My fault, 100%.
59:22
I was laughing a little too hard.
59:24
You were just saying too many funny things.
59:29
Everything was funny.
59:30
Everything was pretty funny.
59:32
Everything.
59:34
Oh, man.
59:35
Even when he did that, we all just like.
59:40
It just started going.
59:42
It was almost like a sitcom, right?
59:44
You know, like.
59:47
It was hilarious.
59:48
The old guy never shut up over there.
59:52
I think he said, shut the fuck up.
59:56
Something like that.
59:58
Keeping in mind, this man is in his 80s.
1:00:01
Okay.
1:00:02
So in his defense, I probably would have done the same thing at some point.
1:00:08
Same, same.
1:00:09
And I will say it a testament to where we live and the neighbor that we have that you know that was the response as opposed to what you would find most other places which is you have someone knocking on your door with flashing lights outside you know right so hey i think you know all things
1:00:35
considered you know it was it went over okay and you know we talked after you know we've talked
1:00:40
about it and he's like yeah you know he doesn't really care for the most part except you know
1:00:46
that happens to be the time of year when windows go open in the south because there's not paul
1:00:51
spring you really can't leave your windows open unless you want a yellow inside of your house
1:00:57
and summer
1:00:59
no right no it's like summer summer here is like to take a blanket put it get it wet throw it in
1:01:10
the dryer and leave it in there for a good half hour 20 minutes on high pull it out throw it over
1:01:18
yourself and breathe in it that summer here so you you don't open your windows so fall falls
1:01:24
really are our big earring out time when do those ladybugs come around your house they were like
1:01:32
swarming you that one time that had to be in november too right uh yeah it's right around
1:01:37
there they they we we have a lot of ladybugs are those ladybugs or those lady beetles
1:01:42
like i know and those ones are mean those lady beetles and they bit the crap out of me in the
1:01:49
backyard ones you sure those are squash but no they look like lady but they got the like the
1:01:55
extra white dots or something oh all right i yeah yeah i i remember something about this
1:02:02
uh no these are just ladybugs they'll crawl on you they'll take you but that's all they're gonna
1:02:07
They like to get inside the house, which is, I don't know why, but they, they just do. I remember
1:02:13
when I was traveling here for business before I moved here, um, I was staying at, uh, an embassy
1:02:20
suites in Charlotte and, uh, they actually had signs up when you went to go register, you know,
1:02:26
letting people know, yes, you'll probably find some ladybugs in your room. And, you know, they're
1:02:31
going to you know in in a lot of the rooms you had balcony and they're like you're probably going to
1:02:38
find them on the door to the balcony and you know out on the balcony and they're harmless and they're
1:02:44
just a feature of north carolina at this time of year and so yeah that was also i think uh that was
1:02:52
also the same place i i i saw my first uh my first north carolinian lightning bugs
1:03:01
yeah do you guys have my your place oh yeah yeah yeah in the spring yeah spring late spring
1:03:11
uh they're they're pretty awesome nice and i think the the little i have a suspicion that
1:03:17
well maybe it's not i don't know what it is but it's it's an interesting thing that i've noticed
1:03:23
is they always go up when they light so they'll be cruising along and then they light up
1:03:29
and then they cruise along and they light up.
1:03:34
It's pretty fun.
1:03:35
Yeah, we really don't have them down here anymore.
1:03:37
I don't know.
1:03:39
Like, I remember seeing them as a kid a little bit,
1:03:40
but I haven't seen any in a long time.
1:03:44
Oh, I love them, man.
1:03:45
They're so, and they stink, you know,
1:03:48
but I mean, they're so,
1:03:51
it's just something magical and beautiful
1:03:53
about something like that.
1:03:56
You know what I mean?
1:03:56
I do know what you mean.
1:03:57
It's just really you.
1:03:59
I remember once driving through, actually we were in Iowa.
1:04:07
We were coming from Minneapolis, Minnesota, and going to Des Moines.
1:04:14
I know, Des Moines.
1:04:16
But we were doing that, and on the way, in between the two is a whole lot of absolutely nothing, but ag fields.
1:04:25
and there were all these ag fields out there
1:04:28
and the sun had set
1:04:32
and the colors starting to fade
1:04:34
and the next thing you know they're just lit up
1:04:36
with these little flashing sparkly
1:04:38
lightning bugs everywhere.
1:04:41
It does sound pretty cool.
1:04:43
Never been to Iowa.
1:04:46
See?
1:04:46
It's a place.
1:04:49
It is.
1:04:50
It's got some neat stuff.
1:04:52
It does. It's got some neat stuff.
1:04:54
I like it there.
1:04:55
I've never had like a bad time.
1:04:57
I wouldn't necessarily want to live there personally.
1:05:00
I think it's pretty cold.
1:05:01
Yeah.
1:05:02
Their winters are,
1:05:03
are not good for me.
1:05:05
If it wasn't for winters,
1:05:06
I'd probably be in like North Dakota,
1:05:08
like Montana,
1:05:09
but I,
1:05:11
I would,
1:05:11
yeah,
1:05:11
I would take those two or Wyoming,
1:05:14
uh,
1:05:15
even with the winters,
1:05:17
Wyoming,
1:05:18
most specifically because of the fact that there's like less than my,
1:05:23
my local city's population in the entire state,
1:05:27
which to me,
1:05:29
it's about the kind of thing I'm looking for.
1:05:33
Right.
1:05:34
Yeah.
1:05:35
No,
1:05:35
I'm the same.
1:05:36
I mean,
1:05:36
I,
1:05:36
I want to love thy neighbor,
1:05:38
but I,
1:05:39
I have difficulty with that.
1:05:40
Sometimes I'd rather just leave my neighbor alone and have my neighbor leave me alone.
1:05:46
You can love thy neighbor and still be 15 miles from the nearest one.
1:05:51
I suppose that's true.
1:05:51
distances you know come on man so that's just my take you know i mean i i'd be okay if it was an
1:06:02
hour drive into the nearest town i've lived like that before and i quite enjoyed it um when i was
1:06:08
younger even um you know at the time going through it being a you know a teenager i didn't like it so
1:06:16
much but you know uh looking back on it i had a lot of enjoyment that i wouldn't have had living
1:06:22
in the suburbs where where you know where we had lived when i was growing up there was nothing here
1:06:29
and i hated it and i always wanted to go like live in the city and now that i'm older i like i want
1:06:34
back what we used to have i'm like you're at all these people you're at all these stupid stores
1:06:39
now they have everything here and i i hate it yeah i'm i'm i'm firmly in the camp of further
1:06:48
away from people better period you know you always hear people say well i don't like people
1:06:54
but they're you you look at what they do you know normally and it's like you sure do expend a lot of
1:07:02
effort going to places with a lot of people for not liking people i try to like i try my best to
1:07:09
lake people they just they seem to try to make it extremely difficult for me for some reason i don't
1:07:14
know why you know and then there's me right i i literally spent uh i i've done it more than once
1:07:23
but you know about six months without leaving this property i would be absolutely fine with that
1:07:30
so yeah that's that to me is is really the yeah i don't really want to it's not that i don't like
1:07:39
people i like people but kind of the same thing right it seems like uh being around a lot of
1:07:45
people leads to situations that are uncomfortable or potentially dangerous and i i don't like for
1:07:51
you or for them i see no there's no difference there is no difference um so yeah it's it's not a
1:08:03
just you know i i'll take my chances with the animals there you go overall they're more
1:08:13
predictable and and uh less likely to cause you know grievous bodily harm
1:08:19
anyway we uh we did not extend our apologies for for skipping a week for our for our dedicated
1:08:29
watchers of of our you know program here we did take a little break we didn't really let anybody
1:08:36
know but we did so sorry about that we'll try to keep it on schedule from here on out we will try
1:08:44
there will be times where we'll take a break we'll try and let you know ahead of time we did
1:08:48
kind of say we were taking a break on the one thing and we should have probably released a quick you know something or whatever but you know hey there there will be times where we take a break we not going
1:09:00
away um and you know we'll we'll we'll follow back up pretty quickly but you know hey we don't make
1:09:08
any money doing this uh we do this really because i i you know we enjoy it right um so
1:09:17
So hopefully that translates into something enjoyable for you.
1:09:21
And for those waiting for raw milk episode two,
1:09:23
that's coming too at some point, I'm sure.
1:09:26
The research is ongoing.
1:09:29
It is.
1:09:29
It is.
1:09:30
There's a lot to wade through on this.
1:09:32
And there's a lot of, I guess, maybe I just haven't found it yet.
1:09:40
But right now it seems like there's a lot of missing information.
1:09:47
So, yeah, but there will 100% be another milk episode,
1:09:53
and I'm going to say it'll be in the month of August.
1:09:58
All righty then.
1:10:00
Yeah, might be like the very last day of August,
1:10:03
but I'm going to try and hold myself to that in the month of August.
1:10:08
It's a lot to research this stuff.
1:10:11
And again, I'm not getting paid for this.
1:10:13
Nobody's giving me anything for this.
1:10:16
in fact over half the people that watch this stuff don't ever hit subscribe so you know that's okay
1:10:23
you do you right i'm happy you're watching it hopefully you get some enjoyment what if big
1:10:28
milk wants to send you a check for you know making the results what they want them to be
1:10:35
no that's fine they can send me a check i'm not going to make the results anything different though
1:10:40
I'll take your money, but I'm not going to do that.
1:10:44
Sorry.
1:10:46
Hopefully you don't disappear.
1:10:48
Hey, we haven't seen, we haven't seen Havoc in a while.
1:10:50
I wonder where he went.
1:10:52
Right.
1:10:54
Yeah.
1:10:55
I, I, I would hope not.
1:10:57
Right.
1:10:57
I don't think we're, we're, I don't know.
1:11:01
You know, who knows?
1:11:03
One thing that was interesting to me is some of the timing though.
1:11:06
Right.
1:11:06
if you look at what we were talking about 1943 they came out with that you know that the the
1:11:14
not a study they came out with you know the statement from the doctor at the London
1:11:22
hospital or whatever it was saying that you know tooth decay was you know basically non-existent
1:11:29
for children brought up on raw milk, right?
1:11:32
1943, 1945, very early in the year,
1:11:35
hit piece by Coronet Magazine that, you know,
1:11:40
basically, oh, this big outbreak, you know,
1:11:44
again, outbreak to people.
1:11:46
But big outbreak, you know, and, you know,
1:11:51
raw milk bad, you know, people are going to die.
1:11:54
But it was all fake.
1:11:56
Fake town, fake outbreak, you know,
1:11:59
just fabricated oddly enough uh at the end of that year some of the municipalities started doing
1:12:08
this thing where they were putting uh neurotoxin in the water supply for what was it again what was
1:12:15
the reason they said they were adding that in there let me see oh it was teeth yeah that's right
1:12:22
weird that's interesting timing isn't it don't you think this is a little
1:12:28
coinky dinkle you know what else would be coincidental if like next week we get an
1:12:33
announcement that you retired and moved to crossroads usa and uh we never hear from you again
1:12:38
or me right and died from unduling fever drinking raw milk nice
1:12:46
never know anyway good but uh yeah so you know there's little things that i i spend off my time
1:12:56
as well right i want to get the meat of the research but when things like that cross my mind
1:13:01
i'm not inclined to just let them go at that point it makes me go i want to dig in i want to find out
1:13:08
who are the key players in this thing who are the key players in that thing who are the key players
1:13:14
how do they fit together are they tied together be real interesting if you found out that there
1:13:19
was a connection and it's a pretty easy one to make why well let's let's look at it from just
1:13:26
a logical standpoint uh fluoride um what's put in the municipal water supplies primarily
1:13:35
comes from a waste product from making chemical fertilizers.
1:13:42
Now, what industry uses chemical fertilizers?
1:13:49
Hmm.
1:13:50
Well, that's interesting, right?
1:13:53
Yeah.
1:13:54
So there is a tie there.
1:13:57
And so, yeah, that's part of what takes so long on these things.
1:14:01
I don't, we don't have a team of people doing this.
1:14:03
It's just me.
1:14:05
spinning my wheels, trying to talk to people,
1:14:08
trying to read as many studies as I can before I want to vomit.
1:14:12
Some of them are so just like blatantly biased, right?
1:14:19
I mean, you could just look at it and go, that's just biased.
1:14:24
You know, you get the gist of it, right?
1:14:29
There's a big push here to villainize something.
1:14:34
And you see that just in the number of studies, right? There's like five to 10 studies or something like that on the benefits of raw milk. And there's like 200 plus studies on the risks of raw milk.
1:14:51
Interesting.
1:14:52
yeah and and you know those studies are funded um probably somewhere in this high 60 percent
1:15:01
uh at least of them are funded through government grants um so you know they're not going to fund
1:15:10
a study on the risks of raw milk and have you go put in the benefits of raw milk right
1:15:19
And it's interesting to note that the difference in the number of studies is likely due to a lack of funding to do studies on the benefits.
1:15:35
I'll be curious to see what you find.
1:15:40
Yeah.
1:15:41
I mean, I've found a lot of information.
1:15:44
Some of it, to be honest with you, is you can tailor a study to show just about anything you want.
1:15:57
And some of these studies are exactly that.
1:15:59
And that's what I meant by bias.
1:16:00
Just like you tailored it so finely to exclude anything that went against this.
1:16:06
Did you really do a study or did you just write an op-ed article?
1:16:12
You know what I mean?
1:16:13
not op-ed i guess it wouldn't be opinion it would be you know but did you just write you know
1:16:19
some kind of editorial on it as opposed to actually doing a study because you know in a
1:16:26
true study you want to find all the information the good the bad the ugly right you typically you
1:16:33
don't want to just go for the good yes you want to prove your point otherwise you know what the
1:16:38
hell are you anyway right if you're if you're out there trying to do a study that shows you know
1:16:43
x y and z and you know you constantly come up with a b and c instead well then maybe you need
1:16:48
a different career like maybe weatherman that would be good for you because you could just
1:16:53
be wrong all the time nobody cares right so fair enough
1:16:58
it's a pretty killer job you think about it right i mean what do you what are the consequences if
1:17:07
you're wrong not much right well we got that one wrong yesterday today though it's gonna be blah
1:17:13
blah blah blah oh well we got that one wrong yesterday but today it gonna to be blah blah blah That it That it Nobody even cares Or like there jokes about the how wrong the
1:17:25
weather man is, you know? I mean, so it's a pretty killer job. You can just be wrong all the time
1:17:32
and it's expected of you. Well, it's the weather. You know how these things go. No, I don't. You're
1:17:40
supposed to tell me and you're not doing a good job of it are they hiring
1:17:46
right i can do that exactly yeah yeah i don't know i i don't think we're sexy enough probably
1:17:55
not no either that or it's probably just actually it's probably just we're too sexy for that that's
1:18:01
what it is that's what i think they'd be like yeah no you'd steal all this people wouldn't even
1:18:08
watch the rest of the whole network.
1:18:10
They'd just tune in for your little...
1:18:13
You look nice in a suit.
1:18:16
Yeah.
1:18:16
Me?
1:18:18
Yeah, I dress up, clean up okay, I suppose.
1:18:22
I imagine you look nice in a suit too.
1:18:24
Probably not.
1:18:26
Mm-hmm.
1:18:28
Everybody looks good in fancy goods, period.
1:18:32
You do.
1:18:33
It looks good.
1:18:35
Sorry.
1:18:35
not suggesting you wear that all the time but i mean it looks good
1:18:41
i actually had this discussion a while back you know if you look at the pictures of uh
1:18:46
you know old farmers right when i say old like early 1900s stuff late 1800s you'll notice
1:18:54
something striking about them all they're wearing slacks with suspenders usually sometimes a belt
1:19:01
a long sleeve button down shirt and a jacket always working on the tractor working picking
1:19:12
potatoes out of the mud you name it they're they're dressed like that why is that hard
1:19:18
i you know i think people back then you know i think it was more uh just the way society was
1:19:28
right you you just dressed you know what was seen at the time as appropriately and appropriate was
1:19:36
to dress nice right it wasn't you know now granted their coats and stuff were probably you know
1:19:42
patched and whatever else and you know some some of their clothing may have been threadbare etc but
1:19:49
you know they still put in you know that type of a that level of a you know care for the their
1:19:56
appearance now you can wear your pajama pants out in public nobody even looks twice exactly that's
1:20:02
i guess where i was going with this is you know it's been a societal shift a little bit not only
1:20:07
do farmers yeah not only do farmers not wear that stuff but i don't know take a trip to walmart any
1:20:13
day anywhere i try not to yeah yeah same but you know i mean that's that's the picture right there
1:20:20
like you said you know hair and curlers freaking pajama pants and like where was i at
1:20:27
four sizes sam's club no shoes can you imagine walking around the sam's club with no shoes on
1:20:34
not really yeah i don't think i would do that
1:20:38
you know here you want to you want to really get the hebes i've seen people walk around
1:20:44
hospitals with no shoes on that's just not right there i'm sorry that is one of the most disgusting
1:20:52
places that i can imagine uh and walking around with no shoes on yeah no thanks between the people
1:21:00
coming out of the bathroom that don't wash their hands after you know doing that and no shoes and
1:21:06
I don't know, man.
1:21:10
It's just not me.
1:21:13
Hey, you know.
1:21:15
Hey, you know.
1:21:17
I mean, Japanese look at us as, you know, dirty people as well.
1:21:22
We wipe with toilet paper.
1:21:25
They're like, ew, gross.
1:21:28
I can't say that I would disagree heavily with them on that one either.
1:21:34
Yeah.
1:21:36
I mean, if you got poop on your hands, would you just wipe it off with paper?
1:21:42
No.
1:21:43
No.
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All right.
1:21:44
Yeah, no.
1:21:45
I'm opting out of the poop talk.
1:21:48
No.
1:21:49
No, thank you.
1:21:51
That's the line.
1:21:53
See you next week, everybody.
1:22:00
All right.
1:22:00
No more scat chat.
1:22:03
Yeah.
1:22:03
No, thank you.
1:22:06
You found my weakness
1:22:08
I did
1:22:11
Oh man
1:22:12
Puppy again
1:22:14
You're going to what
1:22:15
Did you say something about a puppy
1:22:17
That's going to go over well
1:22:22
Anyway
1:22:25
I think
1:22:29
I think we're pretty good for this week
1:22:32
I think you're probably right
1:22:34
We just, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry.
1:22:37
I think I may have damaged a little bit.
1:22:39
I gotta go wash my brain.
1:22:44
Do you use like pressure washer?
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Terrible.
1:22:51
Don't do that.
1:22:52
I don't know why I feel like I have to say this, but don't ever do that.
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Just don't do that.
1:22:56
That's not going to work out well for you if you survive.
1:23:00
So not everything needs a disclaimer.
1:23:02
I know, but, you know, any more curling irons come with a warning.
1:23:13
Do they?
1:23:13
I can't only imagine.
1:23:16
I've seen a warning label on one, at least one of them,
1:23:19
that said for external use only.
1:23:21
Right, nice.
1:23:23
Yeah.
1:23:24
Mm-hmm.
1:23:25
So, yeah, that's a good place to end this.
1:23:30
Remember.
1:23:32
tomatoes are for you.
1:23:38
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